To stay in or out of a relationship with a KTV gal

[DO_YOU_BJ]

bro , u say :anyway. true la, all this depend on fate and luck de la. girlsfrens also pay, ktv gals also must pay. no diff. in the end, happy jiu hao.

Actually ktv gal is a one off thing , i feel that gal friend is the ones that really love you by heart and also marry , have children and have a happy family. Once i marry . i retired cheong!

Kiko, can u pls expand on your statement?
You're toking about normals gals or WLs are included in your statement?

[alwayseatout]

Yes, it depends on fate and luck. Also it depends on yor expectations. Lets look at two areas:

1) If you are married - Better stay out of the KTV relationship no matter how good the KTV girl treats you. Sometimes even better than your OC. A man had to be responsible to his family and children.

2) If you are single - Depends. If you think that you have find a gem and the girl really treats you well with all her heart, then by all means. But be warned. Girls in KTV are first class oscar winners, they know what a man wants, how to make him happy and lastly weakness to a man is his heart. If you can accept her backgrounds and pasts while able to take a bit of risks, then good luck.

In the first place, if you want to find real love, better start it off somewhere than finding love at KTV. Sometimes its complicated.

I fully agree w u! :)

[alwayseatout]

There was once i like a PRC china gal from donguan ktv, i love her with all my heart . she ask me go city plaza shop with her. Then she ask me go jewellery shop, there i spent 200 dollar on silver on her. Then next day i call and sms her, she refused pick up my call and ignore my sms. i am very disappointed that she cheated me. i put love and trust into this relationship, this is how she treat me!:(

:eek: Tat gal ultimate cheater! Hope u had 'makaned' her to make tat 200 bucks worthwhile...

[kiko]

Bro , i refering to Ktv gal. now i learnt from experience, nvr go shopping with PRC gals, if they want me to buy thing for them, i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

[pussyman72]

i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

aye bro kiko pardon me for saying this... u go out with this kind of gers expect them to ask u buy things or ask u for money... i dont see why ur heart get pieced by a knife.....

come on bro wakeup abit. gers go out with u doesnt mean they really like u n wont ask u for money... If u think so simple i think best not to get involve mate.

[alwayseatout]

Bro , i refering to Ktv gal. now i learnt from experience, nvr go shopping with PRC gals, if they want me to buy thing for them, i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

I always tell them wan to buy LV isit? I go China buy many for them la! They laugh cos they know all imitations... Then i shoot back to ask: "Will u feel others will think if u r carrying a real one?"

My 2 cents worth la... :)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro , i refering to Ktv gal. now i learnt from experience, nvr go shopping with PRC gals, if they want me to buy thing for them, i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

Ah.....let me tell you what my chick just told me this morning when i was wif her......
I have a client who's crazy about me.....
Just met me twice...
FYI, she singer ok
Anyways, one day, he calls her, profess himself to her after only 1 meeting at the KTV hahahahaha
The second time he asks her out for lunch....she was hesitant at 1st but then, he suggested after makan can go jalan jalan at orchard.....
HAHAHAHA she tot, well sucker send himself rite to my chopping board and since my make up running low, if i dun chop, will feel sad for myself.
So they went orchard......
Makan liao, went paragon...bot 750 worth of makeup compliments of Chanel......and 3 pairs of shoes worth almost +1k
After that, she said she has to go home liao.....cos need to prepare for work
So she reach home, she calls me and laugh her ass out and ask me go see.....
So i went lor...hahahahaha we both had a good laugh
Not that i standing on her side, damn, this guy willingly offer.........
2 days later, he sms her to say he miss her Y never ctc these 2 days...she says has not been well and has been sleeping...in actual fact, we were together all the time
Next, someone stole her laptop....so she tells me and i just stare at her...her reply, dun worry dear, me wont ask you to spend money on me one....got so many willing suckers out there, sure got people buy a new one for me.
Choon choon, the guy calls and she let go sob sob story and he tells her, tell me make and model & i get for you............

See what people here will do if they THINK someone likes them?
To me, i know she likes me, Y, cos she can tell me about the stunts, tricks and suckers out there who will do anything to just look or smell her........i know her style too, once it gets too tight and guy wants pussy, she'll run and end everything....and usually, there's another sucker on standby liao........
Conclusion, look, see, feel, hear but dun be to eager to think its love or wat not......its possible to find one that is real to you, but that doesnt mean she's real to others as well................
Happy jiu hao.....yes short term but in the end, only you will be sad cos she'll be laughing all the way to the bank..........
Be mindful of your surroundings...for thieves and rapists always appear like nice normal people........and also remember, the nicer they are, the more you shud be concerned!

[kefuso]

Bro , i refering to Ktv gal. now i learnt from experience, nvr go shopping with PRC gals, if they want me to buy thing for them, i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

So she means that No Money = No Honey...Mercenary...What about SG gals like OL, GND and the infamous SPG...I believe they also apply the same rule???

Read from the papers a few years ago that a SG guy dated a SG gal from match-making agency...First met up was at the agency office...Brief introduction was made and both had good impressions of each other...Then came the shoking truth about this gal...Asked the guy where he parked his car and he says he doesn't have a car but can take taxi...Next moment, the lady came up with some excuse and left without even having dinner, movies as pre-planned by them for the evening...

[kiko]

Last time i go out with my spore gal , i know they like me, then they go out with me , now i understand china gals only want yr money .. There was previously i went out with a tian ann men gal, she say i need to pay her for spending time with me 200 for just eat and watch movie.. after that i pay her , next shopping trip ask for LV bag , told her i no money . Then she scold me in front of the whole taka store,, i was embarrassed about the whole thing .. she say to me, from now on , u dont ever sms and call me again .. i sad:(

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Can tell from your post you're more of the introvert sort. So concerned what people think and feel about you...wrong wrong.....let me enlighten you on what i would have done and you go think yourself how the outcome will be!

Last time i go out with my spore gal , i know they like me, then they go out with me , now i understand china gals only want yr money ..
True and not true...cos, you have to see how and where you fit...especially TAM chicks...all seen the glorious riches...so confirm $$$ face but again, if you're really lucky, you many just bump into one that's real toward u

There was previously i went out with a tian ann men gal, she say i need to pay her for spending time with me 200 for just eat and watch movie.. after that i pay her
Well, u shud have made all areas clear before you actually go out wif her, your assumption led you to bleed at the wallet!

next shopping trip ask for LV bag , told her i no money . Then she scold me in front of the whole taka store,, i was embarrassed about the whole thing .. she say to me, from now on , u dont ever sms and call me again .. i sad
I would have shouted back at her louder than her, you fucking whore, i pay you for your time to come out, i owe you LV bag ah? Already fucked by so many men no money to buy yourself meh..........
If you did this, you'll be the one smiling and guess who's the one that everyone at Taka will be staring at and giving the eye?

See, you didnt control the situation ended up being controlled...by reading your posts here there and everywhere asking bottle prices etc, i strongly, from a samster to another, suggest, you stay away from these kinda things....no offense, you're not a player thus u will always loose out.
Notice how much 希望you put on this gal although she made it very clear to you that even makan see show you need to give her 200bucks??????
Take care bro, just take it as school fees n move on;)

[Fatjumbo]

Bro , i refering to Ktv gal. now i learnt from experience, nvr go shopping with PRC gals, if they want me to buy thing for them, i say i no money.. They say no money , why u want go out with me.. when she say that my heart is like a knife pieced into me!

Yea Bro Kiko,

Really hope you bonked well and make sure your enjoyment worth 200 bucks before u let her go. Move on liao with your life. As the saying goes...life is short, play hard and work hard. Anyway, all heng / sway one lah.

My main ops objective is to make sure I don't loogi too much for that constant good GFE and bonking. If the gal is obedient and submissive .... enjoy it meanwhile and treat her well too. Once you find the gal becoming disobedient, dump her straight away..... it's her lost not yours anyway ...remember that.

After all, we cheong either KTV or FL or WL bonks...also got to pay. If you can find one babe who offer you buy one get 100 free sessions type... would you not go for it ?

You lao jiao..maybe can advice more ...hee hee :p

Jumbo

[kiko]

I had learned my lesson, they want to cut me, i cut them back... I ask the china gal to buy for me instead, since they claim they like me.. There was once i told a Ktv gal , my hp spoilt , can buy me a new one.. That china gal lan lan , nothing to say!

[Fatjumbo]

Ah.....let me tell you what my chick just told me this morning when i was wif her......
I have a client who's crazy about me.....
Just met me twice...
FYI, she singer ok
Anyways, one day, he calls her, profess himself to her after only 1 meeting at the KTV hahahahaha
The second time he asks her out for lunch....she was hesitant at 1st but then, he suggested after makan can go jalan jalan at orchard.....
HAHAHAHA she tot, well sucker send himself rite to my chopping board and since my make up running low, if i dun chop, will feel sad for myself.
So they went orchard......
Makan liao, went paragon...bot 750 worth of makeup compliments of Chanel......and 3 pairs of shoes worth almost +1k
After that, she said she has to go home liao.....cos need to prepare for work
So she reach home, she calls me and laugh her ass out and ask me go see.....
So i went lor...hahahahaha we both had a good laugh
Not that i standing on her side, damn, this guy willingly offer.........
2 days later, he sms her to say he miss her Y never ctc these 2 days...she says has not been well and has been sleeping...in actual fact, we were together all the time
Next, someone stole her laptop....so she tells me and i just stare at her...her reply, dun worry dear, me wont ask you to spend money on me one....got so many willing suckers out there, sure got people buy a new one for me.
Choon choon, the guy calls and she let go sob sob story and he tells her, tell me make and model & i get for you............

See what people here will do if they THINK someone likes them?
To me, i know she likes me, Y, cos she can tell me about the stunts, tricks and suckers out there who will do anything to just look or smell her........i know her style too, once it gets too tight and guy wants pussy, she'll run and end everything....and usually, there's another sucker on standby liao........
Conclusion, look, see, feel, hear but dun be to eager to think its love or wat not......its possible to find one that is real to you, but that doesnt mean she's real to others as well................
Happy jiu hao.....yes short term but in the end, only you will be sad cos she'll be laughing all the way to the bank..........
Be mindful of your surroundings...for thieves and rapists always appear like nice normal people........and also remember, the nicer they are, the more you shud be concerned!

Wow...real Guru appeared liao and Guru really tame yr gal well... I have to learn from u liao. hee hee hee.

:D

[Heart Break Kid]

Not advisable to play KTV girls ..I think streetwalkers in L8 is cheaper & diginified :D

[pewpew]

Recently my PRC from ktv called me from China saying that she wanna come SG to celebrate my bdae wif me (Dec) but i have to be guarentor for her Visa, the moment i hear this, i already laugh in my heart (lol why would i wanna be guarentor?).

Things they said might be touching but remember, 95% are all lies and 5% are truth (provided you are lucky enuf to tio 4D).

Advise to all bros, just entertain them will do, don't bother really go becomes a guarentor unless you are really "bo liao" and waiting to be chop.

P.S. Not applying to Bro DYBJ as he is out of our standard liao... :D

[slider_72]

That is why I respected the streetwalkers but not the HC & KTV trashes

Can't put it this way bro. The basis for comparison is totally different. They play different games and cater to different market segments.

For streetwalkers, you just go up to them, negotiate the price and off you go to shag her. No mind games involved here.

For KTV girls and singers, it is not so direct. They may not want to sleep with you even if you offer to pay them. For these girls, mind games are de rigour. The thrill of shagging these girls is not in the shagging itself, but rather the thrill of the chase. Therefore this is not a game for everyone. I for one am not cut out for these games.

To say that these girls are thrash whilst holding the streetwalkers in high regards is a very simplistic view. Its just like saying all men who own Ferraris must be philandering husbands, whilst those who drive Nissan Sunnys must be family men.

[kiko]

Bro Pewpew: I think if she really like u , she wouldnt ask u be her guarantor, she can apply her own visa to celebrate birthday with u.

[longwinter]

Recently my PRC from ktv called me from China saying that she wanna come SG to celebrate my bdae wif me (Dec) but i have to be guarentor for her Visa, the moment i hear this, i already laugh in my heart (lol why would i wanna be guarentor?).

Things they said might be touching but remember, 95% are all lies and 5% are truth (provided you are lucky enuf to tio 4D).

Advise to all bros, just entertain them will do, don't bother really go becomes a guarentor unless you are really "bo liao" and waiting to be chop.

P.S. Not applying to Bro DYBJ as he is out of our standard liao... :D

hais, it seems that everything and whatever they do all have motives behind it.

sometime wonder why their mentality is like that?

[slider_72]

Bro Pewpew: I think if she really like u , she wouldnt ask u be her guarantor, she can apply her own visa to celebrate birthday with u.

Well, most of them go through agents in China in order to get their social visit pass. If I recall correctly, the current market rate that the agents charge is about RMB8,000 to RMB10,000.

If the Singapore bf is willing to apply for the social visit pass for her, then this additional cost is removed.

Who knows, maybe she really wants to come over and celebrate his birthday with him? :rolleyes: It all depends on what happens after the birthday party and whether she heads back to work immediately upon touching our sunny shores.

[Heart Break Kid]

Can't put it this way bro. The basis for comparison is totally different. They play different games and cater to different market segments.

For streetwalkers, you just go up to them, negotiate the price and off you go to shag her. No mind games involved here.

For KTV girls and singers, it is not so direct. They may not want to sleep with you even if you offer to pay them. For these girls, mind games are de rigour. The thrill of shagging these girls is not in the shagging itself, but rather the thrill of the chase. Therefore this is not a game for everyone. I for one am not cut out for these games.

To say that these girls are thrash whilst holding the streetwalkers in high regards is a very simplistic view. Its just like saying all men who own Ferraris must be philandering husbands, whilst those who drive Nissan Sunnys must be family men.

Bro .. I do agree with you partially. What I meant is streetwalkers may want to earn your money in fast & direct way but they do not plot to cheat you further.

I had been playing in KTV league (lower division :D) & streetwalkers league (amateurs :p) ..in humble opinion people is only paying the a lot of extra $ for that better gf feeling which is deemed unnecessary. Perception is that the streetwalkers is lowly & KTV girls & HFJ singers are better packaging.

Equally people enjoyed much better services & gf feeling from streetwalkers in Lor 8 & pay a lot lesser than KTV girls. Not to say everyone experience the same thou.

The basis of comparsion ..I would say is close to the same except some people perceived it differently. Not to say holding high regards for streetwalkers but as compared they are a better lot in term of integrity & professionism in commercial sex than the KTV girls & HFJ singers.

Neverthless ..regardless of what type market segments you are talking about.
We cannot deny all of them fall into the same trade the oldest profession in the world :D

[longwinter]

Well, most of them go through agents in China in order to get their social visit pass. If I recall correctly, the current market rate that the agents charge is about RMB8,000 to RMB10,000.

If the Singapore bf is willing to apply for the social visit pass for her, then this additional cost is removed.

Who knows, maybe she really wants to come over and celebrate his birthday with him? :rolleyes: It all depends on what happens after the birthday party and whether she heads back to work immediately upon touching our sunny shores.

but then if let say u are sincere in helping sumone celebrate his/her birthday, u will tink of ways and handle it by urself de mah.

by saying that she wan to come over and celebrate birthday for him but then in return, nid a social visit pass..it is like -_-"!

[EtherC]

I agree with HBK. It's like sorbet & Sng Bao(flavored popsicle). Basically the same thing but sold at different venues and at different prices. At HFJs no matter how successful or wealthy one is you become a hound chasing the rabbit. Trying to beat the other hounds. End of the day how many of these singers are chaste virgins? Its all in the mind.

[Heart Break Kid]

I agree with HBK. It's like sorbet & Sng Bao(flavored popsicle). Basically the same thing but sold at different venues and at different prices. At HFJs no matter how successful or wealthy one is you become a hound chasing the rabbit. Trying to beat the other hounds. End of the day how many of these singers are chaste virgins? Its all in the mind.

Thank bro ..in fact a lot of singers based here had dubious background in the past. For example, working as bar girls before.

People who had invested a lot of money into KTV girls & HFJ singers cannot bear the fact when people pointed out that all these girls classed under the same category & always perceived they owned it exclusively.

meaning to say people invested a lot of money on all these girls cannot afford to lose ..:D

[colins]

There are those who just want fresh meat and there are those who likes intellectuals. And there are those who can take girls available to anyone for a price and then there are those who likes girls to be exclusive to them. Everyone is dignified at their own individual level, just that you need to spend more time and effort for the latter. Like bro slider said, the eventual game is the same, but the league is different. That means a different type of playing with different aim. Our objective marks that difference, otherwise we would have stayed home and bed our own wives.

The issue is not in who is more dignified becos the comparison is unfair. If streetwalkers are more dignified in not using their brains to KC, then KTV WL are also dignified cos they can still choose whether to go to bed with you. That is in context to KC. Similar, if we say streetwalkers are least dignified becos they have to AJ everybody who pays, KTV WL are also least dignified becos they use trickery to make guys pay for more than sex. The cow horn is endless with this debate, variables are so different that we can only say they are different games played between a man and a pro.

You'll find that we are not comparing the categories in which the girls are from. We are in fact comparing our individual needs and wants, that will make the word 'dignity' much more meaningful. It's like if I like apples and you like durian, when I tell you durians has thorns, you will tell me that I said that becos I couldn't afford it. I can rebutt you by telling you apples has more nutrients, but you can always say you only like strong flavour. Hahaha...endless.

[pewpew]

Frankly speaking, previously i have a PRC (non the same 1) that gave me a suprise on my bdae by returning to Sillypore without me knowing that suddenly gave me a call with a bracelet that she saved money n bought in China.

If someone really likes you, they will try all means to satisfy you in every need and doing action that is out of your knowledge in hope of giving you something that will let you remember. :cool:

[EtherC]

Bro Colins I say thats 钻牛角尖. Unnecessary self justification and over analysis on commercial sex.

Do you guys discuss Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra or Sun Zi's warfare stratagems with WLs or quantum uncertainty? Intellectuals...lol I didn't know WLs function as scholars too. Well I guess we'll all be out of jobs soon since not only are they good at sex and snaring men, they have become intellectuals.

Dignity? What dignity is there in looking for paid sex? So you mean you go to a KTV or HFJ for free and they fuck you for free?

I apologise if I sound harsh but seriously that post is a tad out of this world.

[Heart Break Kid]

Intellectuals :confused: why don't use your finanicial resources to woo office ladies like bankers or auditors ?
Why go for HFJ singers & KTV girls :D

In the end of the day in commercial sex context whoever invested a lot money on all these HFJ singers & KTV girls ..will think in regret that money can use in better thing afterall all these is just high end entertainment. On surface people can showed off that this is differential product but then do all these girls really worth so much :confused:

Matured players should know the answer deep inside their heart.

[DTCEPL]

Why are all the intellectual learned scholarly rich loaded Bros arguing over the definition of 'Whores', whether its Streetwalkers, HFJ, KTV or HC....once they use their Body and sexual services in exchange for Cash, they are termed whores (at least Boss termed it tat way):D

Its simple, its the individual values of both the Man and the Gal.....no need to argue Bros, whahahaha.:rolleyes:

[Heart Break Kid]

People who invested a lot money cannot accept that HFJ singers & KTV girls are whores :rolleyes: people reasoned all sort of crap that all these differential products people cheong HFJ are not in with meat markets mentality ....

[colins]

Bro Colins I say thats 钻牛角尖. Unnecessary self justification and over analysis on commercial sex.

Do you guys discuss Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra or Sun Zi's warfare stratagems with WLs or quantum uncertainty? Intellectuals...lol I didn't know WLs function as scholars too. Well I guess we'll all be out of jobs soon since not only are they good at sex and snaring men, they have become intellectuals.

Dignity? What dignity is there in looking for paid sex? So you mean you go to a KTV or HFJ for free and they fuck you for free?

I apologise if I sound harsh but seriously that post is a tad out of this world.

Hahaha...that's the word, 钻牛角尖. Comparison between leagues will start such a debate without no end, like I say, the cow horn is endless.

WL doesn't function as scholars, cos scholars are seldom practitioners. KTV girls and singers, the higher end ones, are practitioners of such strategems. You'll be surprised to see how they progress from 败战计 to 并战计 and continually use 混战计 and 胜战计 to ensnare their victims. Intellectuals are not necessarily scholars, but the ability to practise such strategies considering their education level, man you have to give it to them. To be frank, they are the ones who taught me some of the most useful strategies in application to life and esp at work, but not that they know that. The adrenalin rush and satisfaction to see such strategies bear fruit, I can tell you, is like 100x the feeling of orgasm.

No worries about you losing your job cos again, you are not WL and even so, discussing Sun Zi will only give you a theoretical discussion which only serves to bore, not attract any customer.

Ah...dignity derives from word dignified, a word that bro HBK used and you agreed to. It is a variable that will create what you said about 钻牛角尖 discussion, as said in my post. Personally, I took the meaning of the word from HBK to say that streetwalkers are more dignified based on the context that when sex is bought, it does not come with a KC cheating (for more money). Bro HBK explained that it means integrity and professionalism for a sex worker, of cos in context of sex for sale, that is totally agreeable. But using it as a comparison to KTV girls or singers, to me, they do not sell sex in an outright manner. They sell fulfilment, like pride/ego and other emotional needs. Of cos, at the end of the day, their customer still want sex, but sex in this context belongs to the ultimate submission on the singers' part, the journey towards bed is really what their customers pay for. In this context, the product is very different, becos the customers' objective is also different. Hence, a comparison between both worlds is difficult.

[EtherC]

So con men, bank robbers,embezzlers, money launderers are intellectuals too since these people use their intelligence and analytical thinking in achieving their aims? These WLs are no more than tricksters. You give them too much credit. Their use of those methods are just application for their trade, nothing more. Even a novice WL out to make a buck knows how to tug at the heart strings of cheongsters. Women are by nature more adept at manipulation of emotions and organization.It an in born ability just used to great extent in this line of work.

Real intellectuals create ideas ,not only to apply them. You say scholars not being practitioners, I'm sorry are you forgetting people like Aristotle or even Li Si of Qin Dynasty? These are true intellectuals, people who study for extensive periods of time(their entire lives), create ideas, apply,teach, administrate and solve real life issues, help win wars etc. They illuminate the rest of us. To put WLs in their league is proof of how out of this world your post was and still you are adamant with your warped logic.

WLs lie, cheat and cause social problems. Yet you term them as intellectuals. LOL.

You are talking about Satisfaction? Please that's a totally different issue from dignity. There are morons who spend 800 bucks at KTVs and can't get to touch a Ang Pai TAM girl, there are cheongsters who spend 800 bucks and can fuck the same girl for an entire day and then there are those who need not spend a single cent yet the same girl is willing to pay their 8000 dollar debt. This is the real scene where the categorization is of us not the girls. The girl remains the same just the men are different.

Can't you see that?

[slider_72]

This debate is getting a little out of context. I think there is a need to go back to HBK's original post (which he edited shortly after my posting), where he said that he respected streetwalkers but not the HC and KTV thrash.

My response to him was that he is not comparing apples with apples. Streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls are of a different league. They appeal to a separate market segment.

His next comment was that people who go for the KTV/HFJ girls are spending huge sums of money for essentially the same product. His view was that you get better service and gfe from streetwalkers but pay much lesser than KTV/HFJ girls. His conclusion is that streetwalker have better professionalism and integrity compared with KTV/HFJ girls.

Colin's view was that different men like different types. Some prefer just going for the fresh meat whilst others prefer something a bit more intellectual. I guess the unfortunate part of this exchange is the use of the word "intellectual". I will touch on this later.

This is where EtherC caught on with his comments about WLs becoming scholars. The discussion took a different track thereafter.

The genesis of this discussion was the comparison made by HBK between streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls. Somehow there was a quantum leap in his argument that those who go for KTV/HFJ girls are wasting good money for essentially the same thing.

This is where I disagreed with him, and where I think Colin shared the same opinion.

If you ask any marketing professional, they will tell you that packaging and marketing makes a whole world of difference. The target audience is different for different products. A Franck Muller watch and a Casio watch are both equally capable of telling time but why do people still buy Franck Muller watches? Similarly a beemer and a Nissan are equally capable of transporting people from point A to point B but why do people still spend an obscene sum of money to buy a beemer instead of a Nissan?

It is the packaging and the marketing that puts these into the category of luxury goods.

Similarly for women, if their marketing pitch and packaging are for the mass market, those who are into luxury goods would not really be interested. Whereas those who are not into luxury goods would think that spending a huge amount of money on a KTV/HFJ girl is a silly waste of money.

Consumers and consumers' taste will evolve over time. For the cheongster, after a period of simply paying and fucking, it gets boring. Some would prefer the thrill of the chase which the KTV/HFJ girls offer. I believe it would be difficult to deny that there is a certain degree of exclusivity. Not every Ah Beng or Ah Seng will be able to bed a KTV/HFJ girl. On the other hand, any guy with a hundred bucks to spare can bed a streetwalker.

Coming to the use of the word "intellectual", I think it should be construed this way; that unlike a streetwalker, if you want to get the attention of a KTV/HFJ girl and to get her into bed, there would be a certain level of mind games involved. With a streetwalker, it is a no-brainer. You just negotiate the price and voila! you get to go between her legs. For a KTV/HFJ girl, you need to work on her brain first before you get her to open her legs. Admittedly there will be a lot more money spent. But for some, cost is no longer the issue. The exercise is whether you can get into the girl's pants after spending that sum of money. Some do and some don't.

With the streetwalkers, the guy is merely fulfilling his basic need for sex, ie the lowest level in Maslow's pyramid. With those who are into KTV/HFJ girls, bringing the girl to bed may be the goal but the main thrill is the journey getting there.

From HBK's posts, it seems that you are still into Casio watches. There may come a day when you feel the need to get yourself a Franck Muller. Perhaps we can re-visit this argument when that day comes because until that day, it would be difficult to explain the different nuances.

[EtherC]

What Bro HBK is saying too in his posts is that the Franck Muller you think you're wearing is actually a China replica and whatever leagues you think exist lies only in the mind.

A really different league:

In China drive to any uni and you'll see Ferraris fetching beautiful uni students. You'll see these students on the arms of rich business men at lunches or functions. The price tags are as follows: Actresses >models> students. Basically these are mistresses, the "true" exclusive. Although most of these have their own BFs or even hubbies. They are in this simply for the $. In fact I have first hand info on how a pageant winning HK actress is doing this as well and now that her sugar daddy is in problem she has to resume work.The businessmen dun mind because they know these women are trophies, like what you mount on the mantle.

Thats the difference between China Cheongsters and Singapore Chai Taos.
Here we treat these KTV girls/Singers like some gems. LOL


PS:I like Franck Muller watches love the tonneau shape. Complicated watch for the sophisticated gentleman =D.

[Heart Break Kid]

This debate is getting a little out of context. I think there is a need to go back to HBK's original post (which he edited shortly after my posting), where he said that he respected streetwalkers but not the HC and KTV thrash.

My response to him was that he is not comparing apples with apples. Streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls are of a different league. They appeal to a separate market segment.

His next comment was that people who go for the KTV/HFJ girls are spending huge sums of money for essentially the same product. His view was that you get better service and gfe from streetwalkers but pay much lesser than KTV/HFJ girls. His conclusion is that streetwalker have better professionalism and integrity compared with KTV/HFJ girls.

Colin's view was that different men like different types. Some prefer just going for the fresh meat whilst others prefer something a bit more intellectual. I guess the unfortunate part of this exchange is the use of the word "intellectual". I will touch on this later.

This is where EtherC caught on with his comments about WLs becoming scholars. The discussion took a different track thereafter.

The genesis of this discussion was the comparison made by HBK between streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls. Somehow there was a quantum leap in his argument that those who go for KTV/HFJ girls are wasting good money for essentially the same thing.

This is where I disagreed with him, and where I think Colin shared the same opinion.

If you ask any marketing professional, they will tell you that packaging and marketing makes a whole world of difference. The target audience is different for different products. A Franck Muller watch and a Casio watch are both equally capable of telling time but why do people still buy Franck Muller watches? Similarly a beemer and a Nissan are equally capable of transporting people from point A to point B but why do people still spend an obscene sum of money to buy a beemer instead of a Nissan?

It is the packaging and the marketing that puts these into the category of luxury goods.

Similarly for women, if their marketing pitch and packaging are for the mass market, those who are into luxury goods would not really be interested. Whereas those who are not into luxury goods would think that spending a huge amount of money on a KTV/HFJ girl is a silly waste of money.

Consumers and consumers' taste will evolve over time. For the cheongster, after a period of simply paying and fucking, it gets boring. Some would prefer the thrill of the chase which the KTV/HFJ girls offer. I believe it would be difficult to deny that there is a certain degree of exclusivity. Not every Ah Beng or Ah Seng will be able to bed a KTV/HFJ girl. On the other hand, any guy with a hundred bucks to spare can bed a streetwalker.

Coming to the use of the word "intellectual", I think it should be construed this way; that unlike a streetwalker, if you want to get the attention of a KTV/HFJ girl and to get her into bed, there would be a certain level of mind games involved. With a streetwalker, it is a no-brainer. You just negotiate the price and voila! you get to go between her legs. For a KTV/HFJ girl, you need to work on her brain first before you get her to open her legs. Admittedly there will be a lot more money spent. But for some, cost is no longer the issue. The exercise is whether you can get into the girl's pants after spending that sum of money. Some do and some don't.

With the streetwalkers, the guy is merely fulfilling his basic need for sex, ie the lowest level in Maslow's pyramid. With those who are into KTV/HFJ girls, bringing the girl to bed may be the goal but the main thrill is the journey getting there.

From HBK's posts, it seems that you are still into Casio watches. There may come a day when you feel the need to get yourself a Franck Muller. Perhaps we can re-visit this argument when that day comes because until that day, it would be difficult to explain the different nuances.


I don't quite agree on your statements on not every Ah Beng & Ah Seng get to bed KTV girls or HFJ singers. These girls are openly termed as public toilets :D in case you don't understand what it means. Its mean anyone can bed them at price or they (girls) can trade it in other form of transanction.

Any Ah Beng Ah Seng can afford the price can bed to these girls ..no doubt about it.

Of course there is different between luxury goods, normal goods & inferior goods from what you mention like watches. Buying Rolex will give a value at the end of the day ...but investing big money on high class whores only give some short terms satisfactistion or sometimes even ended in anger.

If commercial sex ..can compare to purchasing of luxury goods & normal goods well ....:rolleyes:

[Heart Break Kid]

What Bro HBK is saying too in his posts is that the Franck Muller you think you're wearing is actually a China replica and whatever leagues you think exist lies only in the mind.

A really different league:

In China drive to any uni and you'll see Ferraris fetching beautiful uni students. You'll see these students on the arms of rich business men at lunches or functions. The price tags are as follows: Actresses >models> students. Basically these are mistresses, the "true" exclusive. Although most of these have their own BFs or even hubbies. They are in this simply for the $. In fact I have first hand info on how a pageant winning HK actress is doing this as well and now that her sugar daddy is in problem she has to resume work.The businessmen dun mind because they know these women are trophies, like what you mount on the mantle.

Thats the difference between China Cheongsters and Singapore Chai Taos.
Here we treat these KTV girls/Singers like some gems. LOL


PS:I like Franck Muller watches love the tonneau shape. Complicated watch for the sophisticated gentleman =D.

seem like Singapore Chai Taos still have a long way to go ...:D

[DTCEPL]

Some Man enjoy the process of Fucking the Gals' Mind.

Some Man enjoy the process of Fucking the Gals' Pussy.

Some Gals enjoyed the money in return be Fucked.

Some Gals be Fucked and enjoyed the Long Term Meal Ticket.

In both ways, the pussies are fucked. In some senarios, instead of Fucking the Gals' Mind, the Man's emotions got fucked.

In some ways, money are exchange, in others, in kinds, but all ways.....each get what they want.

No end to arguments Bros......:rolleyes: Whether right of wrong, true of false, its back to individual values in life.

[slider_72]

I don't quite agree on your statements on not every Ah Beng & Ah Seng get to bed KTV girls or HFJ singers. These girls are openly termed as public toilets :D in case you don't understand what it means. Its mean anyone can bed them at price or they (girls) can trade it in other form of transanction.

Any Ah Beng Ah Seng can afford the price can bed to these girls ..no doubt about it.


Ahhh... since you say that these girls are public toilets and every Tom Dick or Harry can get them to bed, how about this bro, lets have a small bet. We pick a HFJ singer, if you can get her into bed within a week, you win.

Or is one week too long for you bro?

[colins]

So con men, bank robbers,embezzlers, money launderers are intellectuals too since these people use their intelligence and analytical thinking in achieving their aims? These WLs are no more than tricksters. You give them too much credit. Their use of those methods are just application for their trade, nothing more. Even a novice WL out to make a buck knows how to tug at the heart strings of cheongsters. Women are by nature more adept at manipulation of emotions and organization.It an in born ability just used to great extent in this line of work.

Real intellectuals create ideas ,not only to apply them. You say scholars not being practitioners, I'm sorry are you forgetting people like Aristotle or even Li Si of Qin Dynasty? These are true intellectuals, people who study for extensive periods of time(their entire lives), create ideas, apply,teach, administrate and solve real life issues, help win wars etc. They illuminate the rest of us. To put WLs in their league is proof of how out of this world your post was and still you are adamant with your warped logic.

WLs lie, cheat and cause social problems. Yet you term them as intellectuals. LOL.

You are talking about Satisfaction? Please that's a totally different issue from dignity. There are morons who spend 800 bucks at KTVs and can't get to touch a Ang Pai TAM girl, there are cheongsters who spend 800 bucks and can fuck the same girl for an entire day and then there are those who need not spend a single cent yet the same girl is willing to pay their 8000 dollar debt. This is the real scene where the categorization is of us not the girls. The girl remains the same just the men are different.

Can't you see that?

Intellectuals....hmmmm... seems to be the one word you disgree with. To me, and to many dictionaries, an intellectual is a person who apply his or her intelligence on things he or she pursure. An intellectual is a rational person, as opposed to emotional. Ok, enough of this so we do not sway out of context. You seemed to brand intellectuals with dignified persons, as to your quote, they create ideas, apply, teach, solve real life issues, win wars. Personally intellectuals do not have an alignment towards good or bad, they are just people who prefer to use their brains rather than to use what is naturally occuring to them (i.e. their body). And becos the girls pursue a better life, they do create ideas, apply, teach and solve (their) problems. They do whatever an intellectual does, selfish and greedy yes, but they do hell of a job in conning sg men off their wealth. No noble at all, but to which part of winning war is noble? One man's rise is another man's demise. The history of wars is always a contest between intellectuals, you are telling me that there is no intellectuals in Hitler's camp? The pursue of intellectuals are always for the benefit of their own, whether its the individuals or for the society.

Alright coming back to the topic. We cannot deny the fact that many bros are victims of such KTV girls or singers. Yes many of them are moths attracted to fire. In this forum, there is a limit to what we can do, first, tell them dun go to the fire, second, reveal enough so they can be more rational. Unless our govt stops all of these entertainment, I have to take the second choice becos the first one won't work. Like Sam said, KC problems are 'polluting' the forum so he had to create a section for it. Why? Why not just sweep it under the carpet? It is a trend, and it has proven so.

We can't claim to be noble, or to be an intellectual (in your understanding). But personally, I am very attracted to intellectuals of any walks of life. I believe KTV girls and singers can use brains, its a challenge to even meet them. How a girl in this industry can have such self-confidence remains a mystery that I want to decipher. I can't say for all, but this is my personal pursue. But then if you are waiting to see how much I've spent on this pursue, it is 50SGD. I've learnt a lot from other bros here, to me it can be applied everywhere, esp to work and business. The idea is not in making your entertainment cost lower, it is in learning from people who has seen so much adversity and yet still flourishing. Compared to when I am young, when alcohol and merry making are the currency for fun, now it is chinese tea so I have keep a clear head. Of cos, we do share it with any bros with interest to know more and help those who are in dire straits.

If you haven't notice, a shopkeeper can also KC his customer. These are the commonalities found in all walks of the society.

I guess I've already explained about 'satisfaction' from the above paragraphs. I do agree with you, that when a horny bastard goes to TAM, paid 800 and still couldn't bed the girl, this is seriously idiotic. He could have get laid for 80 bucks. His girl tends to be the better intellectual. The guy who din pay a cent and yet get something back for his 'relationship' with a WL, well, knows his game very well. :D

[EtherC]

Yes. No point arguing over whores. Brain cells don't regenerate. I'll rather save it for better use. Up your points peace lurver DTCEPL lol. :)

[QsUOTE=DTCEPL;3239147]Some Man enjoy the process of Fucking the Gals' Mind.

Some Man enjoy the process of Fucking the Gals' Pussy.

Some Gals enjoyed the money in return be Fucked.

Some Gals be Fucked and enjoyed the Long Term Meal Ticket.

In both ways, the pussies are fucked. In some senarios, instead of Fucking the Gals' Mind, the Man's emotions got fucked.

In some ways, money are exchange, in others, in kinds, but all ways.....each get what they want.

No end to arguments Bros......:rolleyes: Whether right of wrong, true of false, its back to individual values in life.[/QUOTE]

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Intellectuals...lol I didn't know WLs function as scholars too. Well I guess we'll all be out of jobs soon since not only are they good at sex and snaring men, they have become intellectuals.

Dignity? What dignity is there in looking for paid sex? So you mean you go to a KTV or HFJ for free and they fuck you for free?

I apologise if I sound harsh but seriously that post is a tad out of this world.

EtherC, intellectuals...definition? Just becos more dumb arse SG men read more books, take more exams makes them more intellectuals?
The logical perception here is TALENT.
Survival of the fittest! Street smart over book smart.
How many SG men are really street smart?
I reckon you've been to china.....even our bros up up up there oso kenna con by PRC......all PRESIDENT SCHOLARS wat from solid gene pool......those dumb fucks in suzhou????? Not really that intellectual also.
Remember, FACT OF LIFE...put a professor in a jungle....he'll prolly cry & just die there
Put a road sweeper there, in your context, non intellectual.....he'll have a ball......and prolly come back smiling at you.
Why do intellectuals in your context always end up as salary earners and why doesnt intellectuals always end up as towkay?
You're impression of this in my view is totally out....look around you...intellectual in the office or street smart in the office.......
Same applies in the WL scene.....you can be damn educationally smart......the WL can only be from primary school...but still kenna con by the lower educated non intellectual..........so what has books gotta do with this discussion........intellectuals???
Sigh, no wonder so many always say sillyporeans 读死书
Study abit only think they know they world...some things, the books can never teach you! That's why, so many pay the price of being INTELLECTUALS.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Intellectuals :confused: why don't use your finanicial resources to woo office ladies like bankers or auditors ?
Why go for HFJ singers & KTV girls :D
A very simple answer.......DISCRETION...discreet....hush shush....how many office affairs can you keep a secret????? Been there before...VERY HARD!

In the end of the day in commercial sex context whoever invested a lot money on all these HFJ singers & KTV girls ..will think in regret that money can use in better thing afterall all these is just high end entertainment. On surface people can showed off that this is differential product but then do all these girls really worth so much :confused:
Remember, how one spends his money is to his own power n desire...how u feel you're right may not be applicable to others....in your context, there's no room for discussion...cos it's your way or the highway.......
Last, the oldest saying in the book, and no offense my friend.......MONEY IS MINE, YOU FUCK CARE HOW I SPEND IT!!!! This is the most powerful word i heard when i started my cheonging career hahahaha

Matured players should know the answer deep inside their heart.
Some like HC...some like street walkers....some like ktv and singers.....different strokes for different folks.......
Personally, i like singers, cos need to use brains and slowly wear them down mentally to submission.....straight pay n fuck...no brainer...doesnt turn me on! Like fucking a retard.......
But hey, i can afford it.....so who's complaining? Not me definately:D
Actually, i'm having a ball hahahaha

[slider_72]

What Bro HBK is saying too in his posts is that the Franck Muller you think you're wearing is actually a China replica and whatever leagues you think exist lies only in the mind.

PS:I like Franck Muller watches love the tonneau shape. Complicated watch for the sophisticated gentleman =D.

If the comment comes from someone who actually owns a Franck Muller, and who is able to distinguish between the real McCoy and the authentic fake, I have nothing to say.

However, for the uninitiated, few will be able to appreciate what you have just said; that it is a complicated watch for the sophisticated gentleman.

Back to the topic at hand, some people simply prefer to negotiate the price upfront, bring the girl to the hotel, bonk and that's the end. There are others who prefer to have some mental sparing with the girl first. This is where the KTV/HFJ girls have their selling point. They do not hop into bed with every single guy who waves Yusof Ishak in front of their pretty faces. These girls have their eyes on finding a cash cow who will continuously provide milk over a long period of time.

Like the trophy girlfriends that you mentioned in your last post, there are cheongsters who are well prepared to spend in order to get to the trophy girls. Are these girls any different in bed? Probably not, which is the point I think HBK is trying to make. What is the difference then? I think the main difference is that these girls are not public toilets where everyone can use simply by putting 10 cents on the table. These girls are toilets located within a members' only club.

[Heart Break Kid]

Ahhh... since you say that these girls are public toilets and every Tom Dick or Harry can get them to bed, how about this bro, lets have a small bet. We pick a HFJ singer, if you can get her into bed within a week, you win.

Or is one week too long for you bro?

Well..thank for your invitation to friendly bet.

I dun want end up winning a bet & have to face a boring whore in hotel within a week :D

Just share with you something in this year I ever bedded a HFJ singer inside their lodging in Pearl Bank apartment in Outram also did it within a week ...FOC somemore :D except buying her a simple meal :D

[EtherC]

Last post from me, not worth the time or effort.

I won't bother quoting the nonsensical paragraphs. Intellectuals help win wars by bringing it to a swift ending to cut collateral damage. See the protracted War US waged? Now it hurts all of us globally. Intellectuals can develop super weapons that need to be used 1 time to scare all enemies into submission to stop a war. War by itself is bad but to diminish the contributions of real intellectuals who use military budget to develop technology for daily use is seriously demeaning to all who do the good work. Where do you think Internet came from? It came from military network research funds.

If one day should you contract cancer will you thank the "intellectual" whore who taught you an emotional entrapment tactic or the biochemist who invented the cancer drug that can cure you?

Attrition arguing without any grounds as a basis is a low blow. No purpose to it as well. If you wanna explore the highly intellectual world of whores go ahead. Fine by me too if you want to label yourself or your friends as intellectuals too.

I'm just a stupid anonymous everyman poster. Don't take my words for it, you're the pontifical authority here.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Re: To stay in or out of a relationship with a KTV gal

Now we got super weapons lah.....
Cancer la
Osama bin laden la
Obama la....
Nabei.......
All guru la
All intellects...
People like me poor and stoopid....dun like 10c toilet...like to pay $1 for 1 piss......

Just remember this part of the forum...its to help those who are KCed....not a place to release your day to day frustrations on those who are already lost.......
Again, no one is the authority here.....but by reading the posts, some are already CLAIMING & acting that they are the authority!~ :confused:

[slider_72]

Well..thank for your invitation to friendly bet.

I dun want end up winning a bet & have to face a boring whore in hotel within a week :D

Just share with you something in this year I ever bedded a HFJ singer inside their lodging in Pearl Bank apartment in Outram also did it within a week ...FOC somemore :D except buying her a simple meal :D

Good for you. How did that feel like? Shiok right? Why do you feel shiok about it? Was it because it was free or was it because not every Tom Dick or Harry can get that girl into bed? Probably a combination of both.

There are probably a number of guys who spent a shitload of money but are unable to get that same girl into bed with them. This is where I come back to my original point, which you disagreed with, that cheonging streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls are different and that they both appeal to a different market segment.

Therein lies the difference.

[DTCEPL]

Re: To stay in or out of a relationship with a KTV gal



:rolleyes::D:DBros are just being too carried away by individual values.

Suddenly all the Grandmasters appeared from no where!!!

[Heart Break Kid]

Good for you. How did that feel like? Shiok right? Why do you feel shiok about it? Was it because it was free or was it because not every Tom Dick or Harry can get that girl into bed? Probably a combination of both.

There are probably a number of guys who spent a shitload of money but are unable to get that same girl into bed with them. This is where I come back to my original point, which you disagreed with, that cheonging streetwalkers and KTV/HFJ girls are different and that they both appeal to a different market segment.

Therein lies the difference.

Ok lah .. I agree with you :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

:rolleyes::D:DBros are just being too carried away by individual values.

Exactly my friend.....
Your belief...good for you lor
My belief...good for me lor.....
You like GL gals fucked by 10cocks a day...good for you lor
I like to fuck gals who get fucked by 1 cock a day....oso good lor
Who's rite...who's wrong?
No one.....best of all, this has been acted out so many times already.....
Bros, we're here to help.....if there's gonna be an all out debate, create a new thread.......i will definitely join in and support.
Cheers all

[DTCEPL]

Ok lah .. I agree with you :D


Why don't I suggest that Bro HBK go over to Bro Slider and kiss kiss make good:p U two may french if you wished too, whahaha

No more argument okie:D

[colins]

Last post from me, not worth the time or effort.

I won't bother quoting the nonsensical paragraphs. Intellectuals help win wars by bringing it to a swift ending to cut collateral damage. See the protracted War US waged? Now it hurts all of us globally. Intellectuals can develop super weapons that need to be used 1 time to scare all enemies into submission to stop a war. War by itself is bad but to diminish the contributions of real intellectuals who use military budget to develop technology for daily use is seriously demeaning to all who do the good work. Where do you think Internet came from? It came from military network research funds.

If one day should you contract cancer will you thank the "intellectual" whore who taught you an emotional entrapment tactic or the biochemist who invented the cancer drug that can cure you?

Attrition arguing without any grounds as a basis is a low blow. No purpose to it as well. If you wanna explore the highly intellectual world of whores go ahead. Fine by me too if you want to label yourself or your friends as intellectuals too.

I'm just a stupid anonymous everyman poster. Don't take my words for it, you're the pontifical authority here.

Like you said, its all in the mind. Looks like I've touched your soft spot on 'intellectuals'. hahahah...hard to make out how we see ourselves at times.

Pls dun say that you're a stupid poster, in fact, I believe you are the pontifical intellectual here, but whatever that means, I'll just wait for the next intellectual to tell me its meaning.

[Heart Break Kid]

No matter what is been said ..true love can only be found in Geylang not HFJ.

Just joking :D:D:D:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

No matter what is been said ..true love can only be found in Geylang not HFJ.

Just joking :D:D:D:D

hahaha like different from your siggy leh.....hahahahaha

[DTCEPL]

No matter what is been said ..true love can only be found in Geylang not HFJ.

Just joking

For the matter of fact, my kind of true love can only be found in HCs....and not GL or HFJ.....whahahaha:D

[Heart Break Kid]

hahaha like different from your siggy leh.....hahahahaha

For the matter of fact, my kind of true love can only be found in HCs....and not GL or HFJ.....whahahaha:D

Sorry bros ..Geylang KTV still is the most ideal place for people to seek for true love :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Sorry bros ..Geylang KTV still is the most ideal place to people to seek for true love :D

So u went to 9th floor already?
FR if any or you posted in that thread?

That singer from there too?

[DTCEPL]

Sorry bros ..Geylang KTV still is the most ideal place to people to seek for true love :D

Lucky I controlled by keeping my lips glue together, I almost laugh out fall off my chair, and all my colleagues outside my room will be wondering what the shit this guy is doing......:D

I got to admit that Bro HBK is right.....Geylang KTV is indeed one of the best place to seek true love:eek:

[EtherC]

Bro DYB with all your experience surely you know that its easy to find intelligent men without common sense and men of common sense but little intelligence. The most difficult people to find are people of both intelligence and common sense.

Singapore style of learning is baroque style. You cram info into your brain and then you vomit it out during the exams. I hate this sort of routine. It does little to help one deal with politics at work place or to help one get rich. I don't agree too with having scholars in a investment unit. If you had read my earlier posts you would have seen what I wrote about Suchow. Business should be left to predators not professors. However you are stereotyping professors by saying they cannot survive in a jungle. I happen to know one who is not only a partner in a profitable scientific venture but did groundbreaking research. There are people like these around, but as I said rare. Businessmen are different from intellectuals. Intellectuals can be contented when they achieve a breakthrough in their research or come up with a ground breaking theory. Businessmen on the other hand just want to profit as much as possible with the breakthough.Contributions to society are in different ways. If you think money is your judgement of success then its your call. People wont remember you for posterity but people remember Alfian Saat/Catherine Lim because of their poetry and writings.

Intellectuals are usually the 2nd man. Just like Zhuge Liang was. He preferred to have a meat shield in front of him. Why didn't he take up the position as Shu King when Liu Bei told him by his death bed he should depose his son should he fail as a ruler? Loyalty? LOL

What has intellectuals got to do with this? I'm unhappy because I felt your good friend Bro Colins insulted true intellctuals. Well at high end KTVs/HFJ's people who think they are playing intellectual mind games are just trying to paint a rosy & classy picture of what is going on. A sexual transaction stretched out to make it seem like a pursuit and men playing it who think of themselves as smart asses who eventually achieve some sort of hollow victory. When all they end up with is still a hooker.

[Heart Break Kid]

So u went to 9th floor already?
FR if any or you posted in that thread?

That singer from there too?

No lah bro ..like what you said better to be discreet. That singer I upped have a horse owner leh :D

Lucky I controlled by keeping my lips glue together, I almost laugh out fall off my chair, and all my colleagues outside my room will be wondering what the shit this guy is doing......:D

I got to admit that Bro HBK is right.....Geylang KTV is indeed one of the best place to seek true love:eek:


You think about it .....where can you find true love (cost-efficient) other than Geylang KTV ?

[colins]

Well at high end KTVs/HFJ's people who think they are playing intellectual mind games are just trying to paint a rosy & classy picture of what is going on. A sexual transaction stretched out to make it seem like a pursuit and men playing it who think of themselves as smart asses who eventually achieve some sort of hollow victory. When all they end up with is still a hooker.

Have you seen it being played? Have you tried it?

Perhaps you haven't notice, mindgames are everywhere, esp in the propaganda of war which you held so dearly to as a basis of your argument. If Germany won in WW2, your intellectuals would all be Germans. But I guess your workplace do not really require you to build up any of those survival techniques.

Yeah perhaps you do not need to try it. Its all in the books anyway.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro EhterC, everyone has their own point of view...in this case, the term intellectual.
To some, like who the merry christmas is Alfian Saat/Catherine Lim...is worth remembering for watever they wrote...sorry, who the heck r they......
My 2 cents worth...again, IMHO only......
Streetwalkers...been there...boring liao
HCs TNs been there....boring liao
KTV chicks....been there boring liao
But singers, now i have this thing for them....
Why? Yup like mentioned, they seem to be elite in the mind games dept......
Of cos, we all know they're whores but then again, believe it or not, there's actually a very selected few that you can spend as much as you want u still cant bed them.........
The trophy...like what bro HBK said, one makan can go between the legs.....n i'm sure bro HBK is real proud of it...it's a good kill......
But then again, the idea of this is not going between the legs...its investment till ROI...and during this period, many tactics and strategies would need to be applied...........
Thus, to me, that's where the kick is.......

Its a dog eat dog world, and yes, you're right...the Predator and the pen pushers.......
Some were born to kill...some were born to be killed
Some were born to be towkays....some were born to be appreciated not as a person but by their works
To me, i call these WLs intellectuals...you gotta have some level of intelligence to do what they do to obtain what they can besides the money and fuck routine.......
Its all about perception my friend.......one word, different views.....
Why am i not discussing your reply in context.....cos its totally out of point to what this forum is all about bro....cheers n no offense........thanks for calling me MAN in the other thread hehehehe:D me shy shy

[DO_YOU_BJ]

No lah bro ..like what you said better to be discreet. That singer I upped have a horse owner leh :D

HAHAHAHA congrats hahahaha

[slider_72]

I think bro EtherC's main grouse is with the use of the word "intellectual". I can see that he is probably an intellectual himself, or at the very least, a well-read person. I think half the people in this forum probably have no idea about half the things he posted, nor the authors and thinkers he mentioned.

Now if we take the word "intellectual" out of this entire discussion, and instead replace it with the word "mind games" at the appropriate portions of the previous posts, mutatis mutandis, I wonder whether bro EtherC would still be as peeved.

Reading bro Colin's post in context, discussing the theory of relativity was certainly not what he intends to engage in with the KTV/HFJ girls.

PS: By the way, for those who are unaware, the term "pontifical authority" means authority derived from the Pope.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

PS: By the way, for those who are unaware, the term "pontifical authority" means authority derived from the Pope.

Damn, i learned a new word today........tks tks

[colins]

PS: By the way, for those who are unaware, the term "pontifical authority" means authority derived from the Pope.

Thank you, you're my intellectual. :D

[EtherC]

Exactly. Well except for the fact that I lack the temerity to label myself an intellectual. I'm just a boorish peasant. So labeling these girls intellectuals pisses me off GREATLY as I have great respect for real intellectuals who change the world. You can call these girls adepts at mind games, relationship strategists or emotional tug of wars artists but never an intellectual.

Played and been played. I would say its a draw for me end of the day. I stopped the game at high end KTVs. Yes Bro Colins mind fucking people makes one feel powerful but sometimes we tend to be too smart and trip over ourselves. My granny was a wise woman she said before a long time ago : 厉害就好 不要假厉害. She saw me for what I was.

Would say that its one big circle we walk in. It return to basics after you get the kick and realize how empty it is.

I think bro EtherC's main grouse is with the use of the word "intellectual". I can see that he is probably an intellectual himself, or at the very least, a well-read person. I think half the people in this forum probably have no idea about half the things he posted, nor the authors and thinkers he mentioned.

Now if we take the word "intellectual" out of this entire discussion, and instead replace it with the word "mind games" at the appropriate portions of the previous posts, mutatis mutandis, I wonder whether bro EtherC would still be as peeved.

Reading bro Colin's post in context, discussing the theory of relativity was certainly not what he intends to engage in with the KTV/HFJ girls.

PS: By the way, for those who are unaware, the term "pontifical authority" means authority derived from the Pope.

[DTCEPL]

Would say that its one big circle we walk in. It return to basics after you get the kick and realize how empty it is.

Words of Wisdom.

Very well said Bro.......I support you 101% for this phase......damn well said;)

[colins]

Ok ok they are not intellectuals ok? :p

Intellectuals are great people, WL are not great people so they do not qualify. So sorry to have hurt that part of you which you respect.

Let's make up :D

[EtherC]

Yes kiss kiss ;)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Damn now this thread is becoming gay
What is the world becoming hahahahahaha

[DTCEPL]

Damn now this thread is becoming gay
What is the world becoming hahahahahaha

Thread's New title: To stay in or out of a relationship with a Cheong KTV man:rolleyes:

[slider_72]

Thank you, you're my intellectual. :D

Me, intellectual? Non! If bro EtherC claims to be a boorish peasant, I am the village idiot by comparison.

And instead of the brokeback mountain kiss kiss make up stuff, we should all meet up for coffee and exchange notes. If bro EtherC is confirmed coming, I better bring along my encyclopedia, dictionary and read up on ancient Greek and Chinese philosophers first. What else should I prepare beforehand bro? Mein Kampf? Francis Fukuyama? Wa lao... damn stress siah... :D

[colins]

Yes kiss kiss ;)

Hahahaha...I just love happy endings, good one bro!

Damn now this thread is becoming gay
What is the world becoming hahahahahaha

Everytime I go somewhere you say that place becoming gay and everytime I see jojogigi getting CIA from you. Need to ask Petshop Boys what have I done to deserve this...

Me, intellectual? Non! If bro EtherC claims to be a boorish peasant, I am the village idiot by comparison.

And instead of the brokeback mountain kiss kiss make up stuff, we should all meet up for coffee and exchange notes. If bro EtherC is confirmed coming, I better bring along my encyclopedia, dictionary and read up on ancient Greek and Chinese philosophers first. What else should I prepare beforehand bro? Mein Kampf? Francis Fukuyama? Wa lao... damn stress siah... :D

Must tell me also, I go finish up my Enid Blyton first then come meet you all. Stress man, read so many years still haven't finish.

[pewpew]

*preparing lubricant*

Did i hear there are someone for me to poke here :D

Come come, let me pewpewlaserbeam into your lovely mouth to ease ur fire ^^

[diehard4ever15@]

guys...pls....dont start a war here. thanks :)

[FL Lover]

guys...pls....dont start a war here. thanks :)

Dont worry. They will make up later on... Just Parts and Parcels of SBF forum. It's the usual kind of things.... :D

[diehard4ever15@]

Dont worry. They will make up later on... Just Parts and Parcels of SBF forum. It's the usual kind of things.... :D

haha. ya. juz giving them a gentle reminder. people thread mah. not nice to war for so many pages.
PS:thread changed to pages

[kiko]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
Gals from high end KTVs like TAM, Lido, LV, Club Infinitude, Mirage and Dynasty all pride themselves the cream of the crop.
In my opinion, they look better, more classier, more lady like, more BRAINS.....basically, carry themselves very well...........
Armani & BS, only been to BS once and for armani, well, those gals i see there wont even have a table to sit in those KTVs already mentioned...but this is my view only, cos at Armani, i only play singers hehehehe

What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
I am sorry to disappoint you my friend, i've gone for dinners, movies, strolls at the seaside, gone arcade or just kopi wif chicks from all those mentioned in more than 10+yrs and I've never encountered anyone asking me for tips for their time...........maybe you look and they feel you rich man, so that's y they CHOP you...hehehehe kidding

Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:
Yeah well, remember, these people are from PRC....so wallet can be empty, but outlook must look wealthy.........FACE VALUE dude.
As for LV bags n such, dun agree wif you...you see it at almost everywhere....even streetwalkers have it, real or fake, i dunno la cos me cant afford those branded stuff..........
Remember why they came here........i've asked someone about your post and here's what she said.
If a gal finds you ok, can and worth being a friend or potential carrot head, she wont mind investing sometime wif you without the $$$$$$$ factor
If she has totally no interest in you watsoever, then the only thing that she can hope for is $$$$$$$$$$
So, as a word of advise, dun bother wif such people, just treat them as escorts but dun fool yourself that they like you hor..........
By your post, you're seeking the lite in total darkness.......wrong direction Kiko.....be careful......

[jasdude]

Firstly ,Have you encounter gals that work in Tian ann men , Lido palace standing at lorong 8 and 10 after work ? whats the difference of those from BS and armani ? The answer is They are all up for sale but price is different from place to place . Same as viet gals that go hyatt ! after joo chiat , they head straight to hyatt and orchard tower and demand higher price for a bonk !


So it subjective from person to person , place to place ! Whether they charge you for the time they go out with you its also subjective ! First , if you ask a gal out on a FRIDAY evening accompanying you for the whole nite 80% she will ask for some money ! but if its a SUNDAY , she might not charge !

There is no right or wrong but everything is subjective depending on the person and the gal .

[Fatjumbo]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:

Bro kiko,

The gals are all the same one lah. Be it high class eg Lido or low class eg BS KTV etc etc. Pussy will be same pussy feeling when u bonk.

The gals are all here to make some or alot of quick bucks with their precious time....no time to go makan for FOC. Unless u can pick up that 1% rare breed of gals like Bro DYBJ. Hard to find indeed. Yr so call lower class KTV gals also expect some tip from you when u bring them go makan. They are sacrificing their precious money earning time u know.

LV bags ?? haha...like bro diehard4ever15 mention to me before, go Shanghai buy a lorry load of A grade LVs and come back be santa claus lor...the gals sure to love u deep deep.

Nice meeting up with you.

Jumbo :D

[DTCEPL]

LV bags ?? haha...like bro diehard4ever15 mention to me before, go Shanghai buy a lorry load of A grade LVs and come back be santa claus lor...the gals sure to love u deep deep.



Bro Fatjumbo.....I think you may get better deals in Guangzhou....for A grade LVs.....:D

[EtherC]

Bro there are some things we shouldn't say as it could possibly break the income for these girls.With regards to some issues we should not dispense the facts in detail too freely. If not fishes will swim to other seas if the worms refuse to be eaten. Like that old fishes also starve leh =p must be selfish a bit lah.

Firstly ,Have you encounter gals that work in Tian ann men , Lido palace standing at lorong 8 and 10 after work ? whats the difference of those from BS and armani ? The answer is They are all up for sale but price is different from place to place . Same as viet gals that go hyatt ! after joo chiat , they head straight to hyatt and orchard tower and demand higher price for a bonk !


So it subjective from person to person , place to place ! Whether they charge you for the time they go out with you its also subjective ! First , if you ask a gal out on a FRIDAY evening accompanying you for the whole nite 80% she will ask for some money ! but if its a SUNDAY , she might not charge !

There is no right or wrong but everything is subjective depending on the person and the gal .

[diehard4ever15@]

Bro Fatjumbo.....I think you may get better deals in Guangzhou....for A grade LVs.....:D

ya i think guanzhou cheaper. :p buy a busload and sell it cheap cheap. still can make profit leh. :p:D

[diehard4ever15@]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:
not only high class girls will ask. even girls at BS or other KTVs will also asked. i always reply in a straigh face. How many u want? grade A stuff. :D if u wan to eat with the girls, ask them out after working hours or during the dinner resting time, but must send back to work la. if not they will start charging liao. :)

[diehard4ever15@]

regardless of their status, in the end, they are still human(horny) who need money to survive and have their materialistic needs as well. :D they may be here to earn money but they also need some socializing.

[EtherC]

Try not to wear a lot of branded stuff. They gauge a lot on how much they can fleece with regards to the brands of our clothes , watches & cars. There was once after I fucked a girl we talked cock and ended asking me to buy her a car.:eek: I laughed, nuzzled her, fucked her hard again and left. They call you Lao Ban /Lao Gong so behave like one and show them who's the boss. Happy cheonging.

[Fatjumbo]

regardless of their status, in the end, they are still human(horny) who need money to survive and have their materialistic needs as well. :D they may be here to earn money but they also need some socializing.

Wow bro...u post the most today here ah...haha. Well said !!

Yea they are also human, let's shower them with some respect too especially if they are nice to us.

catch up with you next week bro.

Jumbo:D

[Fatjumbo]

Try not to wear a lot of branded stuff. They gauge a lot on how much they can fleece with regards to the brands of our clothes , watches & cars. There was once after I fucked a girl we talked cock and ended asking me to buy her a car.:eek: I laughed, nuzzled her, fucked her hard again and left. They call you Lao Ban /Lao Gong so behave like one and show them who's the boss. Happy cheonging.

Wow Bro Ether, during yr talk cock session did u accidentally leaked out how many villas and condos you owned ?? hee hee hee... just kidding you.

Good Advice...need to show them who's the Boss. You too happy cheonging :p

[diehard4ever15@]

Wow bro...u post the most today here ah...haha. Well said !!

Yea they are also human, let's shower them with some respect too especially if they are nice to us.

catch up with you next week bro.

Jumbo:D
of course mah. :D

[alwayseatout]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:

My personal view is all of them r humans who dared travel all the way to this part of the world trying to make some money in any class of KTVs for themselves n their family. Of course some of them r lucky to be 'tabao' by some rich guys la!

But im not a wealthy guy, i pay them whatever i think is market price in that KTV. If too ex, then bo bian go home fly kite lor...;)

Pay $200 for dinner is one thing that i rarely do, i rather buy all my friends the dinner! But $200 for dinner plus a shot or 2, i will go for it!:D

[alwayseatout]

Try not to wear a lot of branded stuff. They gauge a lot on how much they can fleece with regards to the brands of our clothes , watches & cars. There was once after I fucked a girl we talked cock and ended asking me to buy her a car.:eek: I laughed, nuzzled her, fucked her hard again and left. They call you Lao Ban /Lao Gong so behave like one and show them who's the boss. Happy cheonging.

:eek: Buy car??!! I will tell her ok on! Then give here a few more shots then bring her go buy paper car or toy car! haha! :p

[Fishcer]

Can bros here share your opinion the difference between High class KTV PRC gals to lower class KTV like Tian ann men , Lido palace Vs Club armani , B.S?
What i dont like about high class ktvs gals is that when u go out meal with them , they already asking u for $200, lower class ktv gals are different , they dont ask for money, i can eat relax with them w/o any worry about that $200.
Another thing i dont understand why high class ktv gals always asks guys to buy them L V bag?:confused:

Huh...u mean nowdays still got this practice by them to ask for $$ to go out makan meh? In the early days when the PRCs just touched down on our shores, and when they were considered a novelty, yes they do ask for money just to go out for makan. But already long time not being practiced already leh, cos got sooo many PRCs now, no longer considered something new or fresh, and also economy now compared with many years back is so god-damn bad...If u still actually pay, then kudos to u...either they c u ez to makan, or u r really gd to makan...:D

Anyway abt LV bag, not just high end KTV gals will ask for it, low end KTV gals also like, just that they must c who r the customers they are facing b4 they ask 4 it...PRCs just have this deep deep infatuation with LV...:p

[diehard4ever15@]

Huh...u mean nowdays still got this practice by them to ask for $$ to go out makan meh? In the early days when the PRCs just touched down on our shores, and when they were considered a novelty, yes they do ask for money just to go out for makan. But already long time not being practiced already leh, cos got sooo many PRCs now, no longer considered something new or fresh, and also economy now compared with many years back is so god-damn bad...If u still actually pay, then kudos to u...either they c u ez to makan, or u r really gd to makan...:D

Anyway abt LV bag, not just high end KTV gals will ask for it, low end KTV gals also like, just that they must c who r the customers they are facing b4 they ask 4 it...PRCs just have this deep deep infatuation with LV...:p

next time...we should introduce ourself as LV Prada, Gucci or Christen Dior. :D time to change my name

[DTCEPL]

PRCs just have this deep deep infatuation with LV...:p

Not to mention, Omega watches too.

[alwayseatout]

Huh...u mean nowdays still got this practice by them to ask for $$ to go out makan meh? In the early days when the PRCs just touched down on our shores, and when they were considered a novelty, yes they do ask for money just to go out for makan. But already long time not being practiced already leh, cos got sooo many PRCs now, no longer considered something new or fresh, and also economy now compared with many years back is so god-damn bad...If u still actually pay, then kudos to u...either they c u ez to makan, or u r really gd to makan...:D

Anyway abt LV bag, not just high end KTV gals will ask for it, low end KTV gals also like, just that they must c who r the customers they are facing b4 they ask 4 it...PRCs just have this deep deep infatuation with LV...:p

Kiko is a gentleman la... Bring them go eat dinner, have some nice chat before going for bonking ma... :p

[alwayseatout]

Not to mention, Omega watches too.

Tat day i was asked to buy for them day too! I replied: "Ok lets go! Which transport we taking? MRT or bus?" The gals fainted! haha!

[DTCEPL]

Tat day i was asked to buy for them day too! I replied: "Ok lets go! Which transport we taking? MRT or bus?" The gals fainted! haha!

The PRCs preferred Omega over Rolex, but once they stayed in Sillipore for some time....like those PRC PRs.....their preference will switch to Rolex.....:D

A gal I got to know from DC also aiming for his Robert to buy an Omega, that Robert agreed to buy liao.....last week she went out Jalan Jalan with me while buying her rtn airticket, asked me to bring her go PPC Watch Shop to check on which Omega is nice. I told her I can only afford a Four Matchstick Rolex.....:D Then I asked her which Robert so nice buying her the watch....she paiseh blah blah blah.:rolleyes:

Sillipore man so good hor!!!

[naemlo]

A gal I got to know from DC also aiming for his Robert to buy an Omega, that Robert agreed to buy liao.....

Say nia mah.... I also can buy her a 1000 sqm house... :D Y get serious with these gers. :D

[alwayseatout]

The PRCs preferred Omega over Rolex, but once they stayed in Sillipore for some time....like those PRC PRs.....their preference will switch to Rolex.....:D

A gal I got to know from DC also aiming for his Robert to buy an Omega, that Robert agreed to buy liao.....last week she went out Jalan Jalan with me while buying her rtn airticket, asked me to bring her go PPC Watch Shop to check on which Omega is nice. I told her I can only afford a Four Matchstick Rolex.....:D Then I asked her which Robert so nice buying her the watch....she paiseh blah blah blah.:rolleyes:

Sillipore man so good hor!!!

Actually there r still many "generous" guys around, its only whether these gals got luck in hooking them up or not lor.....

[alwayseatout]

Say nia mah.... I also can buy her a 1000 sqm house... :D Y get serious with these gers. :D

I agree w u! :D

[Fishcer]

Huh...u mean nowdays still got this practice by them to ask for $$ to go out makan meh? In the early days when the PRCs just touched down on our shores, and when they were considered a novelty, yes they do ask for money just to go out for makan. But already long time not being practiced already leh, cos got sooo many PRCs now, no longer considered something new or fresh, and also economy now compared with many years back is so god-damn bad...If u still actually pay, then kudos to u...either they c u ez to makan, or u r really gd to makan...

Anyway abt LV bag, not just high end KTV gals will ask for it, low end KTV gals also like, just that they must c who r the customers they are facing b4 they ask 4 it...PRCs just have this deep deep infatuation with LV...

Hmmm...got zapped with regards to my above post...comment by the zapper (who of course did not leave his nick :rolleyes: ... come on ... i promise not to zap u back, dun b shy :D ) :

18-11-2008 01:55 PM PRC gals are here to earn ($) you shouldn't short-changed them by giving them less you are very stringy person.

Since when did i not agree they r here to earn $...in fact if u know me well enuff or cheong with me enuff, i always always always remind all that the gals are here to earn $$, that is 1st n foremost their main priority.

Also, i never short change them hor. When i jio them makan or kia kia, i always pay for the transport n makan. I never ask them to pay hor...i just dun buy them all those branded 有的没的 ... even then, i always always always remind them i just jioing them to makan or la kopi, if they want to work and earn money or if got big fish jio them go shopping n he is paying them for their time, then pls kindly go ahd with the big fish.

So pls dun think i am stingy (yes, the correct spelling, not stringy :p)...the ball is always in the court of the PRC, its up to them to make a choice. Unless u the zapper have never encountered PRCs willing to go out with u for no fee, just as frens, then i fully understand the fury of ur heart, cos u must b thinkin y u must pay but sometimes othrs dun need to pay for their company...if that's the case, then zap me lor...but i must tell u hor, less the few pts i still got no money to buy LV or pay them $200 for a meal with me :D

[kiko]

Bro Alwayseatout: Thanks for your compliment , one thing i want your advise is it the prettier the PRC gal is , the easier a guy will fall into KC trap. The china gal that want the LV bag is from LA Vegas ktv, Woo... she is the prettiest gal i ever seen in my life, although she treat me just as a friend..and shouted at me inside the Taka LV shop.. but up to now i still couldnt forget her, deep inside my heart,, i still really love her very much. bro, sometimes i wanted to chio bros go la vegas just to see her, but i afraid she tell the mummy that she dont want seat with me. anymore. bros please advise !:confused:

[alwayseatout]

Bro Alwayseatout: Thanks for your compliment , one thing i want your advise is it the prettier the PRC gal is , the easier a guy will fall into KC trap. The china gal that want the LV bag is from LA Vegas ktv, Woo... she is the prettiest gal i ever seen in my life, although she treat me just as a friend..and shouted at me inside the Taka LV shop.. but up to now i still couldnt forget her, deep inside my heart,, i still really love her very much. bro, sometimes i wanted to chio bros go la vegas just to see her, but i afraid she tell the mummy that she dont want seat with me. anymore. bros please advise !:confused:

Bro, move on la... Looks aren't everything! Who is she to shout at u if her intention is for u to buy her a bag??!

If she is really that pretty, my guess is tat she has many customers giving her LVs too!

Y give up the ocean just for a fish? ;)

[kiko]

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!:(

[pussyman72]

Say nia mah.... I also can buy her a 1000 sqm house... :D Y get serious with these gers. :D

i also want a 1k sqm house lei lol since when u started to cheong again :rolleyes:

[pussyman72]

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!:(

aye mr kiko. it seems that u have so many encounter with PRC and so many bad experience with them then why are u still doing this kind of things ah... trying to convince the ger to be with u :confused:

i see ur posting here n there asking for advices..... dont mind me hor how old are u really ah.....

As one of the bro posted to u before. think u better quit going to ktv or cheonging lar everytime kanna from gers n then get lost come here ask advice....... please dont ask stupid questions here........

[diehard4ever15@]

aye mr kiko. it seems that u have so many encounter with PRC and so many bad experience with them then why are u still doing this kind of things ah... trying to convince the ger to be with u :confused:

i see ur posting here n there asking for advices..... dont mind me hor how old are u really ah.....

As one of the bro posted to u before. think u better quit going to ktv or cheonging lar everytime kanna from gers n then get lost come here ask advice....... please dont ask stupid questions here........

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!:(
seems like u have many experience with it. as i tell, first, they shout at u in LV shop becuz they want u to lose face and ego, make u buy her LV bag in the end. and dont go KTV looking for love. especially u. so easily cheated. all the things the gals tell u de. dont take it for real. 1 ear in. 1 ear out. u want LV bag? i give u 1 la. brought from guanzhou grade A de. (only regret that i didnt buy a busload). and tell her its real. :D
u wan look for bonk and cheap love. go ktv and anything that happen inside the room stay in. proper girfren/wife, pls go and search outside. some bros may have find love in KTV but its like 1%. a proper girl who truely love u will not mind u nor your money. a KTV girl will always compare LOVE to Money. whoever have bigger wallet get the biggest piece of LOVE. A lot of things have been repeated by other bros but if u stil refuse to listen, there nthing much we can do bro.
cheers. :)

PS:thanks for the bro that upped me.

[alwayseatout]

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!:(

:eek: Buy at least $1.5k? I think she's badly spoilt! Dun bother her la, just move on! Imagine urself using tat $1.5k fly to Guangzhou for 3d2n n have a good session there? ;)

[diehard4ever15@]

:eek: Buy at least $1.5k? I think she's badly spoilt! Dun bother her la, just move on! Imagine urself using tat $1.5k fly to Guangzhou for 3d2n n have a good session there? ;)
heng i only kana asked for 800$ LV bag. half of yours. i run like hell. :D

[DT23]

just one of my story:
juz bonk a PRC student last nite after KTV. before sending her back, she cliam that got to paid school fee & short of $500. :eek: what to do! reture the tips which she didnt collect just now $100 & + another $100 = $200.
f88king ex bonk i guess!!
before i get this bonk, go 3time KTV with same gal, 2 time shopping buy make up, household things, eat in restaurant. total spend in two week = 1k+

call me stupid... but i am willing & happy! just to find back the gf feeling which i lost touch many year back.
after this bonk, i will move on to find another.....

[diehard4ever15@]

just one of my story:
juz bonk a PRC student last nite after KTV. before sending her back, she cliam that got to paid school fee & short of $500. :eek: what to do! reture the tips which she didnt collect just now $100 & + another $100 = $200.
f88king ex bonk i guess!!
before i get this bonk, go 3time KTV with same gal, 2 time shopping buy make up, household things, eat in restaurant. total spend in two week = 1k+

call me stupid... but i am willing & happy! just to find back the gf feeling which i lost touch many year back.
after this bonk, i will move on to find another.....
haha. happy jiu hao. but good experience. :)

[ekemono]

PS:thanks for the bro that upped me.

Well said in your comment. I have up you too. Cheers

[diehard4ever15@]

eh....sorry for gray card..forgot i cant up u back. haha, my power=0

[pussyman72]

eh....sorry for gray card..forgot i cant up u back. haha, my power=0

lol no worries i will upz u too :)

[diehard4ever15@]

lol no worries i will upz u too :)

thanks guys. :)

[rakthai]

call me stupid... but i am willing & happy! just to find back the gf feeling which i lost touch many year back.
after this bonk, i will move on to find another.....

Nobody is stupid so long he knows what he is doing. Just for 2 to 3 round of fun n then move on is the good move... some pay abit more to enjoy sex some dont it depends on the individual.

[FL Lover]

heng i only kana asked for 800$ LV bag. half of yours. i run like hell. :D

One pointer to those bros with PRC and keeps buying expensive items to them. How long can you maintain that relationship if it is based on a LV bag or the tips that you give her?

My view on buying things for yor PRC gf - Live within yor limits. Dont over-spent on expensive items just to impress yor PRC gf. Let me put it clear. They are here to earn fast $$. How to do it? Only one way, KC as many guys as possible hopefully 3 of 5 are those that belongs to the fat CARROT group.

Seriously, if a PRC is interested in you, she will not ask you to buy something that expensive. She will prefer to get it from her CARROTS. Does your PRC gf ask you to buy many expensive stuffs for her? If yes, maybe its turn to take a back seat and think abt it...

Some may think that we are stingy when we refuse to buy expensive gifts.. WRONG. Like what I said, Live within yor limits AND at the same time, think whether it is worth to give so much on someone who might be here for just 2 months visa..... Yes $ can be earned back but we should not forget one thing... that $ is afterall our HARD EARNED $.

Paisei... Just my straight forward thinking. End of the day, we have no says in yor $. As for me, if I can spend that kind of $, I will rather spend it on a more meaningful thing e.g. family holidays for yor parents or OC and kids...:D

[diehard4ever15@]

One pointer to those bros with PRC and keeps buying expensive items to them. How long can you maintain that relationship if it is based on a LV bag or the tips that you give her?

My view on buying things for yor PRC gf - Live within yor limits. Dont over-spent on expensive items just to impress yor PRC gf. Let me put it clear. They are here to earn fast $$. How to do it? Only one way, KC as many guys as possible hopefully 3 of 5 are those that belongs to the fat CARROT group.

Seriously, if a PRC is interested in you, she will not ask you to buy something that expensive. She will prefer to get it from her CARROTS. Does your PRC gf ask you to buy many expensive stuffs for her? If yes, maybe its turn to take a back seat and think abt it...

Some may think that we are stingy when we refuse to buy expensive gifts.. WRONG. Like what I said, Live within yor limits AND at the same time, think whether it is worth to give so much on someone who might be here for just 2 months visa..... Yes $ can be earned back but we should not forget one thing... that $ is afterall our HARD EARNED $.

Paisei... Just my straight forward thinking. End of the day, we have no says in yor $. As for me, if I can spend that kind of $, I will rather spend it on a more meaningful thing e.g. family holidays for yor parents or OC and kids...:D
agreed with u mate. in the end. family come first regardless of our second life.:p

[diehard4ever15@]

:confused: for ppl that up me. thanks guys.
for those that zap me saying i not multi quoting. i been doing that after being zap but still zap me. :confused:
i thought got 28 points can up pple liao. in the end. still got zap.
and dun keep zapping me becuz of the way i type my msg. quoting whole post also need to zap? haiz. haha.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!:(

Move on Kiko...this is a clear case of KC trapping.
You CLAIM to love her but i'm sure deep in your heart you also know that she doesnt love you at all.
If buying LV bags = love, then buy her a house...get the picture.....

有心就有金
有金就无心

Apply the above to your tots....cant go wrong my friend....

[kiko]

Bro diehard4rever: 2 days ago we went cheong together with yr group of friends... thanks for letting me sit with one of your regular gal.. Wah she really pretty, since the la vegas ktv gal, i have nvr met such a pretty gal. This is the first time i sat with her.. Heard from her she work small joint at hh and at Lido palace at sad Hr.. Then she let me see her watch , i can guess it must be from her lido palace customer. She told me her birthday is coming, can i buy a birthday gift for her... then i think about about it ,,, could it be the same old story of La vegas LV bag again... I then say oh i just get to know u , its better we start off as a friend first, then when yr birthday come, then i will buy a gift for you. I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!

OH MY GOD!
Good luck friend, one day, one will be so kilat that she will lead you to your doom and you still will tell yourself that she loves you......
My last post to you kiko, STAY AWAY FROM KTVs....you dun even have the most basic survival instinct.....just like a lamb walking into the slaughter house!
:confused:

[DTCEPL]

Then she let me see her watch , i can guess it must be from her lido palace customer. She told me her birthday is coming, can i buy a birthday gift for her... then i think about about it ,,, could it be the same old story of La vegas LV bag again... I then say oh i just get to know u , its better we start off as a friend first, then when yr birthday come, then i will buy a gift for you. I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!

Must be a Omega or Rolex:D

Bro Kiko......your wifey or gf would be very very happy if you buy her a box of chocolates or have a meal in pizza hut for her birthday....but for a PRC KTV/HC gal.....I guess you need much much more then that to make her happy.....she love your money, lots and lots of it, and not you......dont you get it:rolleyes:

After she takes the expensive gift (thousands of $ worth) and money from you.....she will forget you the next second until you come out with more of that for her.

[xyz1001]

OH MY GOD!
Good luck friend, one day, one will be so kilat that she will lead you to your doom and you still will tell yourself that she loves you......
My last post to you kiko, STAY AWAY FROM KTVs....you dun even have the most basic survival instinct.....just like a lamb walking into the slaughter house!
:confused:

Whahahahaha...... i think that day will actually come unless something big happened to him. No matter what we post here, won't change the way he thinks. :rolleyes:

[Heart Break Kid]

OH MY GOD!
Good luck friend, one day, one will be so kilat that she will lead you to your doom and you still will tell yourself that she loves you......
My last post to you kiko, STAY AWAY FROM KTVs....you dun even have the most basic survival instinct.....just like a lamb walking into the slaughter house!
:confused:

Bro ..dun scare :eek: him lah. I think kiko should understand money invested on KTV girls are sunk cost :D
the only returns may be having several fulfilling sex sessions with them.

You should encourage him to more pro-active in KTV scenes :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Whahahahaha...... i think that day will actually come unless something big happened to him. No matter what we post here, won't change the way he thinks. :rolleyes:

This fella, in the other threads, i've seen him posts and kenna ridiculed by many others....
Ok, thats between them n him, me not involved.
Also, by reading, can tell his on a budget!
Next, go such KTVs, gal sweet tok abit think they like him.........
Jesus, then post here 开心就好
Then next thing, go all over the place, ask silly questions about how to get the gal, comparing apple to apple based on joints then ask buy chocolate.....
Wa Kaoz..........this type, confirm INTROVERT and INFERIOR COMPLEX spokesman one.......

Ok ya, wonder if Kiko was the one i heard about a guy who walks around with an umbrella and kept looking into a guys room till that guy cannot heck liao, came out & ask him wat he wants?????????????????????

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro ..dun scare :eek: him lah. I think kiko should understand money invested on KTV girls are sunk cost :D
the only return may be having several fulfilling sex sessions with them.

Bro HBK, no reason to scare him la....damn me got nottin to gain by doin that.
Read his posts, getting slimed by a WL at LV in Taka, paying 200 for a movie and makan date wif a WL.....then latest another WL say bday coming wanna buy chocs for her....damn, this not trying to impress WL is wat?
Impress them for wat wor?
This guy must be a mental.....your friend ah?
If so, better watch him, headache coming soon for you if he is man....
Now u know why WLs on our side always say SG men damn stoopid, so easy to cheat and every little thing always end up thinking the WL likes him....sibeh jialat leh
This type, i will even support the WL to play the guy till jialat jialat....bloody deserved to be given a hard knock on the head!

[Heart Break Kid]

Bro HBK, no reason to scare him la....damn me got nottin to gain by doin that.
Read his posts, getting slimed by a WL at LV in Taka, paying 200 for a movie and makan date wif a WL.....then latest another WL say bday coming wanna buy chocs for her....damn, this not trying to impress WL is wat?
Impress them for wat wor?
This guy must be a mental.....your friend ah?
If so, better watch him, headache coming soon for you if he is man....
Now u know why WLs on our side always say SG men damn stoopid, so easy to cheat and every little thing always end up thinking the WL likes him....sibeh jialat leh
This type, i will even support the WL to play the guy till jialat jialat....bloody deserved to be given a hard knock on the head!

Relax lah bro ... let him kana a few times automatically he learned.

And maybe in near future you will hear news like a guy holding an umbrella always disappear
without paying the KTV girls after hotel sessions :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Relax lah bro ... let him kana a few times automatically he learned.

And maybe in near future you will hear news like a guy holding an umbrella always disappear
without paying the KTV girls after hotel sessions :D

Bwahahahaha good one dude good one hahahahaha;)

[diehard4ever15@]

could it be the same old story of La vegas LV bag again... I then say oh i just get to know u , its better we start off as a friend first, then when yr birthday come, then i will buy a gift for you. I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!
haha. dont worry about it la. make sure u dont fall into KC trap. as we all have said b4. once u go out with her. make sure dont walk into any of the branded shop. that girl damn seductive 1. dont believe everything she say. if she happen to walk into LV shop, u must run hor. dont be silly and walk inside. u will be crying when u walk out

that why we need to train him mah. haha. but in the end, is you who make the decision. as per my previous post, what happen inside the room stay inside. unless u wan go out and bonk la, but that 1 also stay in the hotel room. once u are out in the open, both of you are juz normal people.

[diehard4ever15@]

double post. sorry.

[geminean]

Some people really have to learn through the hard way ! Well he happy can already , the gals that play him happy can already ! When i read this i laugh ;happy can already !:D

[DTCEPL]

If so, better watch him, headache coming soon for you if he is man....
Now u know why WLs on our side always say SG men damn stoopid, so easy to cheat and every little thing always end up thinking the WL likes him....sibeh jialat leh
This type, i will even support the WL to play the guy till jialat jialat....bloody deserved to be given a hard knock on the head!


Bro DYBJ....relax lah.....some guys need to learn the hard way, just like me.....always thinking the PRC Gal luv me big big many many, and worst thinking I am the one and only for her:rolleyes: Now when I think of it I also can laugh.

There is only some much you can help or warn Bro Kiko.......let him decide since he is already a grown man.

[diehard4ever15@]

There is only some much you can help or warn Bro Kiko.......let him decide since he is already a grown man.

true la. dont go and poke him la. we alrdy do what we can do. the next step has to be taken by him.
Forgot to add. Dont go and make urself like them just becuz they are pretty and sweet. The girls know they got the looks and voice and the figure, they can hook men very easily. Dont fall into all these trap. Prettyness. wont last u a lifetime. only a faithful wife who always support u will walk with u to the end of time.

[slider_72]

He has got to be kidding. Chocolates from Marks & Sparks as birthday present for KTV girl?!?! Actually I would love to see the girl's response once she sees her birthday present. Hahahaha. Priceless.

[simfrancis]

Is it better to have love and lost. Believe me! This elusive word has evaded me for more than 60 years. I think it is gone forever. The adraline and excitment dont pump me up like they used to when I was a teenager.

[EtherC]

只能度有缘人。有缘人就是能信、解、行、证。

[casannova03]

Sigh....i guess the word is EQ.....

For any man to survive in chionging KTVs and meeting WLs, you've gotta have a certain level of 'soft skills' in handling these gals...they will have their special moves but you've got to counter-act with a move of your own....

I call it the battle of EQs...

If you dun have it??? then boy, stay at home...its cosier and safer.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[diehard4ever15@]

Sigh....i guess the word is EQ.....

I call it the battle of EQs...

If you dun have it??? then boy, stay at home...its cosier and safer.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

we all got our experience and battle wounds of school fees donated to KTVs and gals. so....am sure every1 have their own up and downs. juz that some take more time and paid more school fees in order to graduated. :)

[DTCEPL]

When we will young, teachers always teach us:

马路如虎口;

Now that Cheongsters go KTV/HFJ/HC etc.

女人如恐龙.

[FL Lover]

when yr birthday come, then i will buy a gift for you. I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!

Bro, do u need to go to the extend to buy such expensive choco for this PRC?

An advice for you before u go too deep...

NEVER JUDGE A PERSON BY ITS COVER. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE HEART.

Like I always say... Humans are evil. They can do things that you never imagine.

Lastly, if you are looking for love and hopefully can blossom into a stable relationship and PROPERLY marriage, dont u think you are stepping on the wrong stone?

Go look at my previous posting under this thread. I REPEAT again and hopefully this is the last...

If a girl likes you, she will not care if you are rich.. All she asks is that you love her, care for her and stands by her no matter what. A girl who ask you to buy expensive items in order for the relationship to work... u should know by now what kind of girls is she..Maybe you are just another fat carrot to her.:D

Anyway you should be more EXPERIENCED than me. U should know what to do..

[uiop]

although she treat me just as a friend..and shouted at me inside the Taka LV shop.. but up to now i still couldnt forget her, deep inside my heart,, i still really love her very much

The thing is she told me her customer bought for her a 2k LV bag, she said if i love her , also need to buy at least a $1500 LV bag... She turns into black face, after my card turn into problem., when buying for her.. And she told me and stood out and also told her mummy, that if i ever come La Vegas , ,dont expect her to seat with me again .. And she also say nvr seen a customer cannot afford LV bag for the gals at LA Vegas!


You are hopeless, please bang the fucking wall. :mad:






If a girl likes you, she will not care if you are rich.. All she asks is that you love her, care for her and stands by her no matter what. A girl who ask you to buy expensive items in order for the relationship to work... u should know by now what kind of girls is she..Maybe you are just another fat carrot to her.:D



This are the sweetest words i ever seen all this year in SBF.

[cablesnwires]

@kiko,

And I thought I'm a sucker for EFA... :rolleyes:

You are not looking for love, you are seeking attention everywhere....

Is your life so empty that you have to resort to this, just to fill up the void in your heart? Go find something meaningful to do, instead of whining and day-dreaming.

Assuming you really hit upon someone who likes you, and you hit it off. What's next? Do you think with your current character, you will be able to cherish this relationship? You might be able to sustain for a while, but I can see it clearly now that this will not last as well. Your character does not allow you to do so.

Sorry for the harsh words bro kiko, but find the time to find yourself. No one here can help you, except you yourself. Wish you luck, man....

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Tink go Katong Shopping Center buy a foreign bride from PRC or VN or Thai safer than finding a WL at these places.....geesh

[Heart Break Kid]

Tink go Katong Shopping Center buy a foreign bride from PRC or VN or Thai safer than finding a WL at these places.....geesh

Ya agree lah.. foreign WL is here look for money not husband ;)

[longwinter]

Ya agree lah.. foreign WL is here look for money not husband ;)

sometime l tink we have to put ourselves in the shoe of these WL and then we can understand their mentality a bit better.

imagine coming here to work, of cos is hope to get as much $$$ as possible de mah, l mean when they have decided to go into this line, what does that prove. Desperate liao for the cold hard cash le. :(

[Heart Break Kid]

sometime l tink we have to put ourselves in the shoe of these WL and then we can understand their mentality a bit better.

imagine coming here to work, of cos is hope to get as much $$$ as possible de mah, l mean when they have decided to go into this line, what does that prove. Desperate liao for the cold hard cash le. :(

Just to share something more ...mi ever had regular streetwalker in lor 8. She is a young pretty girl from Chongqing travel to S'pore & first to work Las Vega KTV but due to competition she is unable to get many customers. In the end, her friends brought to the OKT in lor 8 to stand & earn. Her business was good..an average 6~10 customers per night. Very fast money earned compared to working in LV KTV. Her 1st trip to work in lor 8 every customer she served had to give the okt $20 of the $100 she received from each customer she served then subsequent trips to work in lor 8 give $10 of the $100 she received from each customer.

She used the cold hard cash :( earned here to service the payment of her private apartment in Shenzhen :D she is good girl to mi
but their main objective here is to earn fast money so never fall in love with them.

Hope some bros can get what they perceived... right and understand what kind of girls are they dating with ;)

[longwinter]

Just to share something more ...mi ever had regular streetwalker in lor 8. She is a young pretty girl from Chongqing travel to S'pore & first to work Las Vega KTV but due to competition she is unable to get many customers. In the end, her friends brought to the OKT in lor 8 to stand & earn. Her business was good..an average 6~10 customers per night. Very fast money earned compared to working in LV KTV. Her 1st trip to work in lor 8 every customer she served had to give the okt $20 of the $100 she received from each customer she served then subsequent trips to work in lor 8 give $10 of the $100 she received from each customer.

She used the cold hard cash :( earned here to service the payment of her private apartment in Shenzhen :D she is good girl to mi
but their main objective here is to earn fast money so never fall in love with them.

Hope some bros can get what they perceived... right and understand what kind of girls are they dating with ;)

yea like l say. Put urself in their shoes. when u are desperate and had to resort to doing this trade, will you care about love or no love anot. Between $$$ and love, ask yourself frankly, be realistic, which will u choose? :(

[kiko]

Brothers, thanks for your advice and the other bros here. I will learnt from experience and move on with life. Thank you!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Brothers, thanks for your advice and the other bros here. I will learnt from experience and move on with life. Thank you!

Dear Kiko, no body here wants to fug u deliberately, but you have to change your mindset.
I sense you are DESPERATELY looking for love but remember, love will only appear when 2 conditions are met.....
1) When its time for you to meet the ONE
2) When its time for the ONE to meet you

Other than that, dun go searching for it....cos, it aint the time yet!
Remember, even WLs are human but to know what they really are, you gotta invest in some $$$ 1st
Do not fool yourself in believing that they like you, never do that.
Yes there are good ones, but like said many times, its like finding a needle in a haystack.
Remember a few golden rules that the bros here have mentioned....

1) If you ask a WL out for makan and movie, watever day it is, they ask for $$$....FUCK them.....cos its clear they're out for money and they dun even treat you as a friend....but if honesty prevails, they will tell you another day can??? Cos tonight is good money making nite....this type can be friend....provided she calls you back another time to meet up or makes an appt on another day in advance

2) If a WL ask you to go shopping, be very careful......yes, in normal boy gal relationships, no probs but wif a WL that's where your alarms shud sound off.....remember, alot of them live off men...everything and anything....free transport, free meals, free cigarettes, free clothes, free makeup, free laptops, free phones free LV, Gucci etc
If you do go shopping, when she ask you to pay, just laugh.......and if the oldest trick in the book appears, if you love me blah blah, buy this for me...always turn the tables.....throw the boll back at their court......tell them...i love you, i buy this for you no prob...then say back...you love me? If so, buy something for me here also to proove your love for me...........find something as expensive or more EX......that'll freak her out with nothing left to say liao....... remember, never say u no money...........just be in control of anything and everything

3) If go makan, dun ask what she likes to eat, just go where you want. If she say she dun like, then ask her to leave and go somewhere else herself to eat......

4) If go for movie, go watch what you want to see...not what she wants to see.......if she complain its in english...tell her, nabei, got subtitles dunno how to read ah...........

5) If she sms to tell you she miss you, dun be too happy, that means she wants money......tell her you miss her too but not free to go find her at her working place that nite...if really miss me, meet me after work...then cannot ask u for money liao

6) If she says her bday next monday, you must WOW, so choon, my bday tmr leh....you buy me present tmr i sure buy u back on your bday.......

Bottomline, the nightscene is a game.....its all about wits and control.......
You control them, they're your toys and at your command....they control you, YOU'RE FUCKED! You must have seen alot of guys being controlled by their gals...see how happy or pathetic they are?

When your friend has a PRC chick as GF, dun be too happy for him........find out how he got her, how much he invested and how much he's still investing
Like the bros here mentioned, if she really likes you, she'll earn her own money, buy u meals, spend watever free time wif you and never ask for any compensation wat so ever..........now that's real!

Learn the difference between reality and dream.....

Like i've posted before & do remember this kiko......
When you enter the main entrance of the KTV, remember you're entering a dream.....when you leave....remember to wake up...or you'll be in a world of sadness, disappointments, false promises, lies and endless unanswerable questions in your mind.........

If you can absorb the above, go cheong...if you cant...stay away from the KTVs

Good luck and enjoy my friend:D

[slider_72]

When your friend has a PRC chick as GF, dun be too happy for him........find out how he got her, how much he invested and how much he's still investing. Like the bros here mentioned, if she really likes you, she'll earn her own money, buy u meals, spend watever free time wif you and never ask for any compensation wat so ever..........now that's real!


Mostly agreed, except the paying for makan part. I still think the guy should pay for makan when we eat out.

[cablesnwires]

....

Learn the difference between reality and dream.....

Like i've posted before & do remember this kiko......
When you enter the main entrance of the KTV, remember you're entering a dream.....when you leave....remember to wake up...or you'll be in a world of sadness, disappointments, false promises, lies and endless unanswerable questions in your mind.........

If you can absorb the above, go cheong...if you cant...stay away from the KTVs

Good luck and enjoy my friend:D

The Master has spoken.... how cum u neber advise me har? :p :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Mostly agreed, except the paying for makan part. I still think the guy should pay for makan when we eat out.
Well, that's for you...you self impose gentlemen ethics that shud never be practised wif a WL.
Also, when i mention about them paying for makan, of cos not meaning that they always pay, more like got come got go type...note this one already develop friendship...so not the bickering type on who foots the bill...must clarify

The Master has spoken.... how cum u neber advise me har? :p :D
Cos you neber ask and when you did, your game over liao hahahaha

So gents, when we meeting for kopi again?

[xyz1001]

So gents, when we meeting for kopi again?

Bros, kopi on me tmr night, on boi? :)

[ekemono]

The Master has spoken.... how cum u neber advise me har? :p :D

If Grandmaster has to write it down for you like a instruction manual, then you are seriously in trouble. So thank your lucky star you heven't got it :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bros, kopi on me tmr night, on boi? :)

Onzzz......
All bros, you know who you are, tomorrow nite kopi at same place at 930pm.....
More than 24hrs advance notice liao
Pls RSVP to Obiwan...hope to see you all there
Those who wanna go but is not in the regular kopi group, pls send PM wif contact numbers to bro colins who will fwd the address to you.
Obiwan, pls take note tks :)

[diehard4ever15@]

If you can absorb the above, go cheong...if you cant...stay away from the KTVs

Good luck and enjoy my friend:D

yo, you summarise all our advice in 1 post. :D thank you very much.

This is exactly what we have been telling kiko for the past few days. i tell u ah. i was once kana carrot head also. when first time cheong ktv...got 1 girl call me out so i blur blur go meet her. in the end...ask me buy this and that....i argue with her in front of the whole crowd. embrassing yes. it was so humilating and funny at the same time. I told her, what can u do if i refuse to paid, the worst u can do is humilate me and i will return u the favour. dishearterning yes.

But in the end, its for our own good. From that day onward, i learnt my lesson, KTV gals call me, sure no good kangtou. bring them out supper yes. out dinner yes. shopping no. go hotel and bonk. YES. :D
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[colins]

Bros, kopi on me tmr night, on boi? :)

Tmrw 9.30pm same place. Bros who wanna come, PM me and I'll inform you the address.

Wonder if they have blue mountain there.

[colins]

yo, you summarise all our advice in 1 post. :D thank you very much.

This is exactly what we have been telling kiko for the past few days. i tell u ah. i was once kana carrot head also. when first time cheong ktv...got 1 girl call me out so i blur blur go meet her. in the end...ask me buy this and that....i argue with her in front of the whole crowd. embrassing yes. it was so humilating and funny at the same time. I told her, what can u do if i refuse to paid, the worst u can do is humilate me and i will return u the favour. dishearterning yes.

But in the end, its for our own good. From that day onward, i learnt my lesson, KTV gals call me, sure no good kangtou. bring them out supper yes. out dinner yes. shopping no. go hotel and bonk. YES. :D
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Since I'm in the mood, I'll tell my first KC experience also.

The first girl who KC-ed me was a hostess in a japanese bar (that type where you pay 300RMB and can drink anything until the ambulance come, dun have to tip the girl also). Got to know her thru a friend, came sat beside me. On the second day, she sms me ask me if I like to go again, having no idea why and what the puck is happening, I thought hmmmm I do like her company. So brought some friends and return to the place then continue to return for a couple of times.

Became quite good friends, never hanky panky but its not me to do that anyways. I even got her an amulet from xiamen when I went there for business.

One day, probably after about 3 weeks continuous contact, I was travelling back to shanghai from anhui, a gruelling 9hrs train ride in the day. Nearing the end of my journey, received a call from her. She said she just started working in a full fledge KTV and like me to go support her, her mummy said she must have at least a customer on first day kinda bullshit. I was damn tired and it was about 7pm. I said I'm tired, she replied you must come. Then somehow gotten perhaps more irritated than angry, I said, you make a choice, if I come tonight, I will never call you again. If you let me rest, I will come tomorrow. She simply said, you come tonight. I am worth less than 24 hrs to her, I guess.

So I got a buddy and we went down together. The rest is history. That was 4 years ago I think. Maybe to some, this is hardly a KC. To me, it tells a lot about a person and about the industry.

[cablesnwires]

......I said, you make a choice, if I come tonight, I will never call you again. If you let me rest, I will come tomorrow. She simply said, you come tonight. I am worth less than 24 hrs to her, I guess.



We are but people of convenience to them... sad but true... :(

Dear bro colins, u got pm... ;)

[colins]

We are but people of convenience to them... sad but true... :(

Dear bro colins, u got pm... ;)

You've got reply. My secretary obiwan has replied to u. :D

[HCKing]

Bro diehard4rever: 2 days ago we went cheong together with yr group of friends... thanks for letting me sit with one of your regular gal.. Wah she really pretty, since the la vegas ktv gal, i have nvr met such a pretty gal. This is the first time i sat with her.. Heard from her she work small joint at hh and at Lido palace at sad Hr.. Then she let me see her watch , i can guess it must be from her lido palace customer. She told me her birthday is coming, can i buy a birthday gift for her... then i think about about it ,,, could it be the same old story of La vegas LV bag again... I then say oh i just get to know u , its better we start off as a friend first, then when yr birthday come, then i will buy a gift for you. I think what to buy for her, maybe buy chocolate at marks & spencer can already, hope she will like it!

wahahaha i was browsing the pages until i reach this magic post....nearly fell off my chair man....

THIS IS THE MOST HILARIOUS/RIDICULOUS POST I HAVE EVER READ.:D

to the writer of this post did it ever cross yr mind that by buying such EXPENSIVE gift to her it may mean its the thought that counts to u but to her it means...

INSULT :rolleyes:

u sure u knw u r chionging ktv not matchmaking tcss outing???

[diehard4ever15@]

hey. no need to shout la. he sure know what he doing de. :)
we alrdy warn him gao gao liao.

[HCKing]

hey. no need to shout la. he sure know what he doing de. :)
we alrdy warn him gao gao liao.

not shout lah just tat i cant help but find his post too hilarious liao. just this post alone can tell he is the cai tao wanabe type. scared tio kc trap then dont buy any "bday" gift can liao lor y still need to think of buying wat to make her happy? somemore buy chocolate! wats a box of chocolate doing in ktv man?:rolleyes:

i think just nw i read abt someone asking him better stop chiong ktv...yah i think that is the best advice 4 him liao lah.

[FL Lover]

But in the end, its for our own good. From that day onward, i learnt my lesson, KTV gals call me, sure no good kangtou. bring them out supper yes. out dinner yes. shopping no. go hotel and bonk. YES. :D
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Bro, at least you never buy for the KTV gal... I remb when I started going KTV, friends bring me go, saw a quite pretty PRC, SYT. Got stunned by her looks and when she asked me go out with her... so go loh.

At first my impression is to go out and have a good dinner with her.... Guess where she brings me..... NOT BUY LV BAG HOR.... Much more steady...

BRING ME GO GOLDSMITH SHOP AND BUY GOLD CHAIN!!!:mad:

Know her for 1 day, tell me some cock story that she is different from other PRCs who only wanted LV bags.... My impression changed. Lucky she show hands on that day. Imagine if she decides to KC further, I would have buy anything for her....

Guess did I buy for her? No... cause I told her I am a poor chap who cannot afford to buy anything more than $100 and from then onwards, i did not hear from her again. Lose face.. who cares? Heng

[diehard4ever15@]

Bro, at least you never buy for the KTV gal... I remb when I started going KTV, friends bring me go, saw a quite pretty PRC, SYT. Got stunned by her looks and when she asked me go out with her... so go loh.

At first my impression is to go out and have a good dinner with her.... Guess where she brings me..... NOT BUY LV BAG HOR.... Much more steady...

BRING ME GO GOLDSMITH SHOP AND BUY GOLD CHAIN!!!:mad:

Know her for 1 day, tell me some cock story that she is different from other PRCs who only wanted LV bags.... My impression changed. Lucky she show hands on that day. Imagine if she decides to KC further, I would have buy anything for her....

Guess did I buy for her? No... cause I told her I am a poor chap who cannot afford to buy anything more than $100 and from then onwards, i did not hear from her again. Lose face.. who cares? Heng
haha ya lor. heng sia. i kana LV bag. U kana gold chain. :p

[HCKing]

haha ya lor. heng sia. i kana LV bag. U kana gold chain. :p

these meimei r all very clever one hor. if u nvr buy she will not waste time with u and will move on to the nxt player liao. to them nt only LV bag is $ minutes and hours r also $. :D

[EtherC]

How To Avoid Getting Conned - Executive Careers - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/careers/features/2008/11/13/How-To-Avoid-Getting-Conned#page1)

[alwayseatout]

Learn the difference between reality and dream.....

Like i've posted before & do remember this kiko......
When you enter the main entrance of the KTV, remember you're entering a dream.....when you leave....remember to wake up...or you'll be in a world of sadness, disappointments, false promises, lies and endless unanswerable questions in your mind.........

If you can absorb the above, go cheong...if you cant...stay away from the KTVs

Good luck and enjoy my friend:D

Its too long to quote DYB's but i can only say that this reminder will always be a reference for me! :)

[alwayseatout]

How To Avoid Getting Conned - Executive Careers - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/careers/features/2008/11/13/How-To-Avoid-Getting-Conned#page1)

Great reference! I especially like the last part of it!

"It's a sad thing to say," Robbins adds, "but lying is a recession-proof business."

:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

"but lying is a recession-proof business.":D

Lying is an inborn talent
Everyone can lie but what are the traits of lying?
Some cant lie for crap hahahaha
Some can make you accept something white as black witout you even doubting it

BAck to this topic of WLs
Liars...they're the best of the trait...so how to prevent yourself from being a victim?????

Only 2 sure ways......
1) Apply the reality and dream routine
2) Lie with them.....remember i've posted before, when you meet a WL that just woke up...she's so different then the one you met before you sleep.....cos they too gotta switch mode from like what i say, human to ghost!

If you can switch mode as required, i.e from human to ghost and back to human in a split second, hey, you've got a predator.
If you have a prob doing that, stick to rule one.

If we all notice why so many men get conned or cheated or hurt, its actually very very simple......because they apply humanity toward ghosts......thus will always loose out bigtime.

Remember, to catch a thief, you gotta be the bigger thief, if not, just be a nice peaceful citizen..........and let the ghost busters do their bidding....hehehehehe

These are the ones that WLs always warn each other to be on the "ALERT" for.......not the carrot heads.
I once knew a WL very intimately that she told me, some SG men, dun even need to use their brain can kill liao....to the extend of elaborating that using the waste of their pubic hair can kill that guy jialat jialat!

But once they meet the ghost busters, THEY'LL RUN FOR THEIR LIFE IN FEAR! Cos, like any war, there're casualties on both sides.....they've seen how some WLs suffered under the hands of the ghost busters hehehehehe

[Barracuda]

Some WLs are ok to be friends with.

I'm actually going out with one now but she treats me as a friend cause her main priority now is not about relationships.
She tells me stuffs about some of the other guys who's going after her too, what they do for a living, what they promised to give her when its time for her to go home. (You be shocked on how far a guy is willing to go for a girl after she told me all the promises other guys gives her)

There's even this guy who doesn't know chinese at all keeps SMSing her in english and she forwards them to me to translate it for her so that she can forward it back to that guy.

Just celebrated her birthday last night and went down to her working place with Cake.

Before that 2 weeks back, went out with her for shopping. Went to almost all the stores and she really can shop, trying on all the clothes , asking me for opinions about it also.

Well end up she never asked me to pay for anything, so i decided to purposely offered to pay for her. she gave me a straight no and she said there's this rich guy who she always goes out with (I know a little about this guy as she tells me some stuffs about him) and she wants him to pay for it.

So i think i became her accompliance which she tries the clothes and she liked it, i will help her write down the name of the store so that she can go back again and buy.

Got her a chinese-english electrionic dictionary and a Guess wallet for her Birthday as she wanted to learn english and i'm also teaching her bit by bit but due to her needing to work, i got her the dictionary so that she can self-study. she was happy.

[Heart Break Kid]

Dear Kiko, no body here wants to fug u deliberately, but you have to change your mindset.
I sense you are DESPERATELY looking for love but remember, love will only appear when 2 conditions are met.....
1) When its time for you to meet the ONE
2) When its time for the ONE to meet you

Other than that, dun go searching for it....cos, it aint the time yet!
Remember, even WLs are human but to know what they really are, you gotta invest in some $$$ 1st
Do not fool yourself in believing that they like you, never do that.
Yes there are good ones, but like said many times, its like finding a needle in a haystack.
Remember a few golden rules that the bros here have mentioned....

1) If you ask a WL out for makan and movie, watever day it is, they ask for $$$....FUCK them.....cos its clear they're out for money and they dun even treat you as a friend....but if honesty prevails, they will tell you another day can??? Cos tonight is good money making nite....this type can be friend....provided she calls you back another time to meet up or makes an appt on another day in advance

2) If a WL ask you to go shopping, be very careful......yes, in normal boy gal relationships, no probs but wif a WL that's where your alarms shud sound off.....remember, alot of them live off men...everything and anything....free transport, free meals, free cigarettes, free clothes, free makeup, free laptops, free phones free LV, Gucci etc
If you do go shopping, when she ask you to pay, just laugh.......and if the oldest trick in the book appears, if you love me blah blah, buy this for me...always turn the tables.....throw the boll back at their court......tell them...i love you, i buy this for you no prob...then say back...you love me? If so, buy something for me here also to proove your love for me...........find something as expensive or more EX......that'll freak her out with nothing left to say liao....... remember, never say u no money...........just be in control of anything and everything

3) If go makan, dun ask what she likes to eat, just go where you want. If she say she dun like, then ask her to leave and go somewhere else herself to eat......

4) If go for movie, go watch what you want to see...not what she wants to see.......if she complain its in english...tell her, nabei, got subtitles dunno how to read ah...........

5) If she sms to tell you she miss you, dun be too happy, that means she wants money......tell her you miss her too but not free to go find her at her working place that nite...if really miss me, meet me after work...then cannot ask u for money liao

6) If she says her bday next monday, you must WOW, so choon, my bday tmr leh....you buy me present tmr i sure buy u back on your bday.......

Bottomline, the nightscene is a game.....its all about wits and control.......
You control them, they're your toys and at your command....they control you, YOU'RE FUCKED! You must have seen alot of guys being controlled by their gals...see how happy or pathetic they are?

When your friend has a PRC chick as GF, dun be too happy for him........find out how he got her, how much he invested and how much he's still investing
Like the bros here mentioned, if she really likes you, she'll earn her own money, buy u meals, spend watever free time wif you and never ask for any compensation wat so ever..........now that's real!

Learn the difference between reality and dream.....

Like i've posted before & do remember this kiko......
When you enter the main entrance of the KTV, remember you're entering a dream.....when you leave....remember to wake up...or you'll be in a world of sadness, disappointments, false promises, lies and endless unanswerable questions in your mind.........

If you can absorb the above, go cheong...if you cant...stay away from the KTVs

Good luck and enjoy my friend

Very good textbook written by author DO_YOU_BJ.

If this book is published early, I would have scored distinction years ago when doing the examination on KTV papers :D
now I believe bro kiko can get a good credit for this KTV module or at least a pass :D

[kiko]

Bro DO_YOU_BJ : Now i have another issue, kindly advise me: there is a ktv gal i met recently, she ask me to go shopping with her, she say she wanted to buy sunglasses. Then i say if is more than $30 i wont be paying , she say okk. She say when i free, we go together , have a look. Later on she say, can i dont go to this ktv she working when she not around, cause she say dont like me sit with other gals. Ok fine, i can dont sit with other gals, i can save on the tips... The next thing i ask her , do i need to pay her tips for time spend on shopping with her , she say dont need. She say she want to start off as a friend , if things go well, she say she hope we can be together. Then i say okk. Another thing she say she hope i wont tabao any gals of ktv from now on , if we were to carry on this relationship.. and she say she will not have sex with me, and she want me to respect her decision , if i really like her. Bro , kindly advise me. Thank you!

[justl00king]

Very good textbook written by author DO_YOU_BJ.

If this book is published early, I would have scored distinction years ago when doing the examination on KTV papers :D
now I believe bro kiko can get a good credit for this KTV module or at least a pass :DSecond that. :)

Very well said. If he publishes book I surely buy some and support. :p

[Heart Break Kid]

Second that. :)

Very well said. If he publishes book I surely buy some and support. :p

hahaha ..:D

Despite bros saying streetwalkers got fucked by 10 dicks a day or no brain no intelluctual...
mi still prefer streetwalkers over KTV girls at the minimum streetwalkers are more honest.

[Barracuda]

hahaha ..:D

Despite bros saying streetwalkers got fucked by 10 dicks a day or no brain no intelluctual... mi still prefer streetwalkers over KTV girls at the minimum streetwalkers are more honest not like KTV girls.

IMO i think its all boils down to each individual girl. some has a good heart yet some has an evil heart and some although is kind by nature but due to the condition that they are facing, they are forced to do evil things to SG Men.

[Heart Break Kid]

IMO i think its all boils down to each individual girl. some has a good heart yet some has an evil heart and some although is kind by nature but due to the condition that they are facing, they are forced to do evil things to SG Men.

What I means is streetwalkers is more direct in selling sex & times..they dun play games like KTV girls :rolleyes:
in another words streetwalkers make more of a honest living in commercial sex than KTV girls.

[Barracuda]

What I means is streetwalkers is more direct in selling sex & times..they dun play games like KTV girls :rolleyes:
in another words streetwalkers make more of a honest living in commercial sex than KTV girls.

ya you are right in that point. you pay short time then u leave. End of story.

KTV girls are more complicated cause they sit with you for hours and the human communication and touch is longer so thus the chance of tio KC is higher.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Ok Kiko, here we go!!!!!!

there is a ktv gal i met recently, she ask me to go shopping with her, she say she wanted to buy sunglasses. Then i say if is more than $30 i wont be paying , she say okk. She say when i free, we go together , have a look.
Why make yourself so cheap by applying a budget......you dun have to be rich but you sure dun need to act so cheap...save some face and dignity for yourself....worst, your this question got no conclusion????

Later on she say, can i dont go to this ktv she working when she not around, cause she say dont like me sit with other gals.
Dun look from your perspective but look from hers. She wants to control your wallet, and also the potential of another chick hooking you is very likely, so its like you're her herd, thus she wouldnt want to loose a potential purse string

Ok fine, i can dont sit with other gals, i can save on the tips...
[COLOR="Red"]Do not think of stuff to make yourself happy about the entire situation, if i were her, i'd rather u spend on me than i loose any little amount of $$$$ to another WL
The next thing i ask her , do i need to pay her tips for time spend on shopping with her , she say dont need.
Why do you wanna impose such questions as pure invitations for them to see thru your weakness...also, a very simple no need to pay will win your trust...you make yourself such easy prey by doin this

She say she want to start off as a friend , if things go well, she say she hope we can be together. Then i say okk.
Of cos you say ok, you're so filled wif 希望 that makes u a WLs best friend

Another thing she say she hope i wont tabao any gals of ktv from now on , if we were to carry on this relationship.. and she say she will not have sex with me, and she want me to respect her decision , if i really like her.
See how she keeps you in her pocket, fill you to your nose wif 希望and make you PCC everytime you think of her........you are a willing victim of KC and its clear that you're already KCed by asking these questions

Bro , kindly advise me. Thank you!
In return of answering you the above, i only have 1 question for you Kiko. What da fug are you seeking? Seems like you go every KTV also tio jia wan.....wats goin on in that skull of yours huh? Can explain so i can understand your kind better! Cos hell, you sure are a minority in the KTV scene

[DTCEPL]

Cos hell, you sure are a minority in the KTV scene

[/COLOR]

I guess Bro Kiko lacks a gf and feeling empty, need some luv to fill up his heart. So he is looking for love in the wrong places, I guess in KTVs and HCs, we use $ to buy 'luv' which is limited by the amount we spend and the time factor. More money meaning more luv and longer luv:D Less money meaning lesser short term luv:rolleyes:

If we cheong KTV for 4 hours, probably you buy 4 hours of luv. Like what Bro DYBJ said, we enter a dreamland and we better dump that vision once we step out of the KTV/HC.:eek:Scary place I would say.....but I would still go

Paiseh....just talking nonsense lah!!!

[HCKing]

I guess Bro Kiko lacks a gf and feeling empty, need some luv to fill up his heart. So he is looking for love in the wrong places, I guess in KTVs and HCs, we use $ to buy 'luv' which is limited by the amount we spend and the time factor. More money meaning more luv and longer luv:D Less money meaning cheaper short term luv:rolleyes:

If we cheong KTV for 4 hours, probably you buy 4 hours of luv. Like what Bro DYBJ said, we enter a dreamland and we better dump that vision once we step out of the KTV/HC.:eek:Scary place.......

i chiong KTV/HC many times liao..both the same..temp runaway lala land only lah. but there r guys who dream of winning over these 1st class chiobu one day in HOPE of fulfilling their prince and princess live happily ever after fantasy. Porseeber but if budget tight then no. hehehe.

[jasdude]

Another thing she say she hope i wont tabao any gals of ktv from now on , if we were to carry on this relationship.. and she say she will not have sex with me, and she want me to respect her decision , if i really like her. Bro , kindly advise me. Thank you!

Beware ! she is casting a long line to reel you in for the KILL ! she is just winning your trust and heart when you kena poisoned whatever she said you will believe and do ! You maybe one of many and not many and only one !

[jasdude]

prefer streetwalkers over KTV girls at the minimum streetwalkers are more honest.

Agree with you bro ! at least they are straight to the point to what we want ! 去吗？:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

hahaha ..:D

Despite bros saying streetwalkers got fucked by 10 dicks a day or no brain no intelluctual...
mi still prefer streetwalkers over KTV girls at the minimum streetwalkers are more honest.

Actually i dun quite agree.
Why?
Cos its kinda like the same field of play.
I know of bros who RTF on FLs and Streetwalkers and then kenna KCed......
Then same shit, rolex watches, LV and such.......so to me no difference.

Same application in a KTV, if you have this chick tonight, next time there, get another but if you keep goin to find her...there's your prelude to KC happening.....

So to me, if i look at it objectively from the aspects of KC trapping, its still the same la

[Hurricane88]

Actually i dun quite agree.
Why?
Cos its kinda like the same field of play.
I know of bros who RTF on FLs and Streetwalkers and then kenna KCed......
Then same shit, rolex watches, LV and such.......so to me no difference.

Same application in a KTV, if you have this chick tonight, next time there, get another but if you keep goin to find her...there's your prelude to KC happening.....

So to me, if i look at it objectively from the aspects of KC trapping, its still the same la

hahaha...good comment....up you my humble 3 points...:)

[slider_72]

Bro DO_YOU_BJ : Now i have another issue, kindly advise me: there is a ktv gal i met recently, she ask me to go shopping with her, she say she wanted to buy sunglasses. Then i say if is more than $30 i wont be paying , she say okk. She say when i free, we go together , have a look. Later on she say, can i dont go to this ktv she working when she not around, cause she say dont like me sit with other gals. Ok fine, i can dont sit with other gals, i can save on the tips... The next thing i ask her , do i need to pay her tips for time spend on shopping with her , she say dont need. She say she want to start off as a friend , if things go well, she say she hope we can be together. Then i say okk. Another thing she say she hope i wont tabao any gals of ktv from now on , if we were to carry on this relationship.. and she say she will not have sex with me, and she want me to respect her decision , if i really like her. Bro , kindly advise me. Thank you!

Sheesh!!! Are you for real???

Setting a $30 budget for shopping is so downright cheapskate. You are an embarassment to the Singaporean men. If you think you got too much money and want to throw money at the KTV girl, go right ahead and spend. Buy her a Rolex or LV bag.

If you don't want to throw away your money, don't go shopping with her. Simple as that. What the fish are you trying to do going shopping with her and setting a freaking $30 budget!?!?! In her eyes, you are more cheapskate compared with the others who refused to buy her any stuff. Why I say that? Because to her, she will see that the others who refused to buy her stuff are not so stupid and not so easy to con. For you, she will see that you are already under her charm and prepared to spend but can only afford a miserable $30.

People here tell you not to go cheong KTV already but you still don't listen. Go cheong and kanna KCed by girl come here whine and ask for advice. KTV girl ask you to buy birthday present, you come to the forum and tell us you intend to buy her a box of chocolate from Marks and Sparks.

What are you going to do next, fold 10,000 paper hearts and give it to the next KTV girl instead of giving her tips? Bring KTV girl go to the park and carve a heart shape with both your names on it on the coconut tree? Invite the KTV out for dinner but bring her to your house and you cook maggie mee for her?

You are a fucking loser dude. And a cheapskate too.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

You are a fucking loser dude. And a cheapskate too.

Bro, if people got lots of money to throw, go HFJ wif lor, then we throw throw up the stage la........
But this bro on budget type...so..............
Anyways, 1st time see you so aggressive....so MAN! hahahaha:D

[slider_72]

I guess Bro Kiko lacks a gf and feeling empty, need some luv to fill up his heart. So he is looking for love in the wrong places, I guess in KTVs and HCs, we use $ to buy 'luv' which is limited by the amount we spend and the time factor. More money meaning more luv and longer luv:D Less money meaning lesser short term luv

No girlfriend and looking for love in all the wrong places we can understand and to a certain extent emphatise with. Nobody in infallible. But look at the way that he is doing it, it is really absurd.

Buy chocolates from Marks and Sparks for KTV girl's birthday lah, set $30 budget when go shopping with KTV girl lah. He is a major embarrassment to us Singaporean men.

If he spent a shitload of money on the KTV girl, although he is a stupid cai tao but at least still got a little bit of pride left. If he refuse to spend on the KTV girl at all, they will think that he is smart and not easy to con. Now he is neither here nor there, the girls will think that he is stupid because can makan him without any effort and yet look down upon him because he is a cheapskate and got no money.

There are a select few who gets the best of both worlds, ie got pride and can makan the girl but yet don't spend any money. Kiko on the other hand has the worst of both worlds. No pride, kanna makan by the girl and still kanna labelled stupid and cheapskate by the girl.

Freaking unbelievable.

[slider_72]

Bro, if people got lots of money to throw, go HFJ wif lor, then we throw throw up the stage la........
But this bro on budget type...so..............
Anyways, 1st time see you so aggressive....so MAN! hahahaha:D

Not aggressive lah bro. Just a bit TL. Like what we use to say in the army, want to do things don't do half fuck. If half fuck then don't do. Do half fuck already still come here ask for advice. Bei tahan.

[HCKing]

well said slider72, this is exactly y i find his post the most hilarious/ridiculous ever! and it seems like he can easily tio kc with any ktv girl! :eek: read some of his recent postings, all abt kc with different girls no head no tail also. maybe nw busy typing latest sos posting on another new girl. hehehe..kc masters here better get ready.

btw where is TS? at least his postings r clear only talks abt one girl.

[Fishcer]

Hahaha....i was waiting for u guys to erupt from Kiko's posts...finally i c it...:D

If u do look thru his old posts, n like wat Bro D_U_BJ has seen also (dat Kiko has some friction with some othr members here), u will understand perfectly wat i mean...no matter wat is said in reply to his posts, u will only get more n more infuriated, or amused (depending on how u wanna b affected)...me just choose to b amused by his postings, and take it as a daily dosage of humour...:D

Anyway, Kiko-san, if i dun remember wrongly, the 1st time i met u in BS, in response to ur qn of y i shoot u in the forum, my response was dat u write/ask stoopid stuff, and dat u don't learn anything from what is written or told to u...and also i told u its better for u to go cheong with like-minded pple or ur own frens...with ur unwillingness to learn or to change from the replies that pple give u, let me just sincerely advise u : (1) U either just quit the WL scene (like wat Bro D_U_BJ has said), or (2) u carry on with ur cheonging, but pls do not come in here and ask for advice on ur "problems" faced with the WLs...give pple here a break.

Apparently when pple respond, u dun even bother to pick up any skills from it, or maybe, u just lack the necessary skills to apply the theories (Be it EQ,IQ watever)....

U still have not shown me that u can change, to bcome a better cheongster (in terms of intelligence, PR, etc)...that being the case, u r still a fellow Sillyporean, here's wishing that u dun bcome another stepping stone in the progress report of PRCs who want to make it rich...in which case u do, then, to be honest, 你活该...

[Heart Break Kid]

Actually i dun quite agree.
Why?
Cos its kinda like the same field of play.
I know of bros who RTF on FLs and Streetwalkers and then kenna KCed......
Then same shit, rolex watches, LV and such.......so to me no difference.

Same application in a KTV, if you have this chick tonight, next time there, get another but if you keep goin to find her...there's your prelude to KC happening.....

So to me, if i look at it objectively from the aspects of KC trapping, its still the same la

Hmm ...mi RTF my streetwalkers so far never encounter such things like buy Rolex & LV bags except I did buy her foods & drinks :D &
of course I do not want FOC from them too just $100 for the whole afternoon with bonks.

They treated mi as their qing ren (sound like kiko right :D) ..they are 3 streetwalkers I found in Lor 8

(1) Chongqing girl (ex-Las Vega KTV hostress)
(2) Shenyang mei mei (resemble SHE Selina)
(3) Hunan syt (honest streetwalker)

For bros who cannot afford to play KTV girls or HFJ singers.. Geylang Lorong 8 is a good place to consider :D

[Fishcer]

Oh yes, 1 more thing Kiko, if u wanna keep posting abt ur endeavours with the PRCs, and wanna ask for advice, then pls start ur own thread...stop jumping into othrs thread...since u have soooooo many problems with sooooooo many gals, better to start ur own thread...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Oh yes, 1 more thing Kiko, if u wanna keep posting abt ur endeavours with the PRCs, and wanna ask for advice, then pls start ur own thread...stop jumping into othrs thread...since u have soooooo many problems with sooooooo many gals, better to start ur own thread...

hahaha u so bad but from what i heard from the grapevine, yeah, good suggestion.
Kiko, start a new thread on your sexploits please

[DO_YOU_BJ]

They treated mi as their qing ren

Wah bro HBK, you so hunky...me envious
You're my latest idol......;)

[colins]

Bro kiko, for the safety and good health of all the bros here and their family members, only one advice.

Dun cheong.

[Fishcer]

hahaha u so bad but from what i heard from the grapevine, yeah, good suggestion.
Kiko, start a new thread on your sexploits please

Well...i'm not in here for a popularity contest...i will speak openly what's on my mind...dun care if the opposite party hates me or not... :D Anyway, the opposite party also dun have a pussy, so i cannot f***, so i dun need to mince my words...if he ever changes for the better, then my attitude will change, but if not, then i c no pt to speak nicely :)

[Fishcer]

Wah bro HBK, you so hunky...me envious
You're my latest idol......;)

His name says all... "Heart Break Kid".... just hope he leaves enuff hearts for us to break...dun 扫 finish hor... :p

[Heart Break Kid]

No girlfriend and looking for love in all the wrong places we can understand and to a certain extent emphatise with. Nobody in infallible. But look at the way that he is doing it, it is really absurd.

Buy chocolates from Marks and Sparks for KTV girl's birthday lah, set $30 budget when go shopping with KTV girl lah. He is a major embarrassment to us Singaporean men.

If he spent a shitload of money on the KTV girl, although he is a stupid cai tao but at least still got a little bit of pride left. If he refuse to spend on the KTV girl at all, they will think that he is smart and not easy to con. Now he is neither here nor there, the girls will think that he is stupid because can makan him without any effort and yet look down upon him because he is a cheapskate and got no money.

There are a select few who gets the best of both worlds, ie got pride and can makan the girl but yet don't spend any money. Kiko on the other hand has the worst of both worlds. No pride, kanna makan by the girl and still kanna labelled stupid and cheapskate by the girl.

Freaking unbelievable.

If people are purely seeking fun in KTV then face value is not very important.

I know of people like poor ah bengs, average joes to even shenton top executives also ever run tips & payments from KTV girls or FLs. Isn't they are biggest embarrassment to local men ?

More or less..cheongsters did fork out the initial sunk cost to know the KTV girls or HFJ singers so as to say nothing is free.

No need to care whether these KTV girls see us cheapskate, stupid or no money. As they are not our employers :mad: more importantly is BE NOT STUPID :D

KTV is just place for people looking for sex with some feeling on it so that we men live life without regret :cool:
not a place to look for a wife or real mistress :rolleyes:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Well, i can understand bro sliders point.
Like mentioned, dun have to act rich but dun show you're a cheapskate ma!
At least leave a backdoor of pride for yourself. Like he kenna at LV Taka from the WL
Remember, we're not talking about logic or anything like that, the basis of this argument is based on an individuals character.
I'm not sure if you know him personally, but from wat i heard, lets just say i had a few good loud laughs of my own.......like the umbrella, staring into the room incident, plus the sometimes disappearing act when its time to pay, buying a fake LV for a WL and boasting to everyone that he bot the real deal and so on...................

So, this kinda tells you about this 3-4k monthly package accountant liao.

[cablesnwires]

haha...

Well, I banged him and got zapped in my earlier post.. hehe... :D

As I have said earlier, he is looking for something to fill the void, the emptiness in his heart. I'm not sure what's his intention of highlighting his encounters, but I'm sure he's here not for the advice (note: correct usage :D) the bros here are giving.

What's your real motives, if I may ask?

[Heart Break Kid]

Well, i can understand bro sliders point.
Like mentioned, dun have to act rich but dun show you're a cheapskate ma!
At least leave a backdoor of pride for yourself. Like he kenna at LV Taka from the WL
Remember, we're not talking about logic or anything like that, the basis of this argument is based on an individuals character.
I'm not sure if you know him personally, but from wat i heard, lets just say i had a few good loud laughs of my own.......like the umbrella, staring into the room incident, plus the sometimes disappearing act when its time to pay, buying a fake LV for a WL and boasting to everyone that he bot the real deal and so on...................

So, this kinda tells you about this 3-4k monthly package accountant liao.

I know ...I will not allow myself in a situation like kiko inside LV Taka store.

That why I indirectly tell him to go Lor 8 to find ..better than go KTV

P/S: I do not know him personally .... luckily :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

P/S: I do not know him personally .... luckily :D

U another one....so bad hehehehe:p

[Fishcer]

I'm not sure if you know him personally, but from wat i heard, lets just say i had a few good loud laughs of my own.......like the umbrella, staring into the room incident, plus the sometimes disappearing act when its time to pay, buying a fake LV for a WL and boasting to everyone that he bot the real deal and so on...................

So, this kinda tells you about this 3-4k monthly package accountant liao.

Wah...u also very bad :p

Anyway...3-4k monthly still more than me leh....me only 3-400 /mth...:(

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Wah...u also very bad :p

Anyway...3-4k monthly still more than me leh....me only 3-400 /mth...:(

Damn, then u all must be freaking loaded man....me got no CPF even...wa kaozzzzz
Better start looking for a job liao....:D

[Heart Break Kid]

Wah bro HBK, you so hunky...me envious
You're my latest idol......

His name says all... "Heart Break Kid".... just hope he leaves enuff hearts for us to break...dun 扫 finish hor...

Bros ..dun make pai seh leh :o just sharing my experiences.

[Fishcer]

Damn, then u all must be freaking loaded man....me got no CPF even...wa kaozzzzz
Better start looking for a job liao....:D

.....?????.....300-400/mth loaded????? Wah...me must b living in a diff dimension from u Bro... :p

Anyway, me also no CPF...next time dunno where to stay le...think must work harder to c if can find PRC to let me sleep at their rented apartments :D

[Fishcer]

Bros ..dun make pai seh leh :o just sharing my experiences.

No need to paiseh...u got 料 one... :p

[Heart Break Kid]

No need to paiseh...u got 料 one... :p

Thank you ..you also got 料 :p in entertainment circles.

[Fatjumbo]

Thanks to all bros who up my pts.

Indeed bro diehard, we should call ourselves all the branded bags name...make the gals confused. Haha Haha :p

[FL Lover]

this kinda tells you about this 3-4k monthly package accountant liao.

SBF got alot of loaded bros. But really..with 3-4k monthly also need to play the disappearing acts meh when time to pay?

But seriously, like I always say..

if you want to cheong, LIVE WITHIN YOR LIMITS. Know what is yor expectations when cheonging and dont go beyond what you can afford.....

I have seen pple more worse... DISAPPEAR from pubs with stupid excuses when TIME TO PAY TIPS FOR THE GIRLS... haiz... KNN, in the end I also paisei, have to pay on his behalf to the girl for the tips. These type of guys better stay far far away from me..FYI, the tips is only 20 - 30 dollars and still got pple run too...

Haiz, all kinds of pple also have.

[Fishcer]

Thank you ..you also got 料 :p in entertainment circles.

Yah...me got 料 around my waist... :p

[cablesnwires]

I have seen pple more worse... DISAPPEAR from pubs with stupid excuses when TIME TO PAY TIPS FOR THE GIRLS... haiz... KNN, in the end I also paisei, have to pay on his behalf to the girl for the tips. These type of guys better stay far far away from me..FYI, the tips is only 20 - 30 dollars and still got pple run too...

Haiz, all kinds of pple also have.

Yar lor, some of them even get 5, 6 girls and disappear when time to give tips. Even David Copperfield should learn from them... :D

[Fishcer]

SBF got alot of loaded bros. But really..with 3-4k monthly also need to play the disappearing acts meh when time to pay?

But seriously, like I always say..

if you want to cheong, LIVE WITHIN YOR LIMITS. Know what is yor expectations when cheonging and dont go beyond what you can afford.....

I have seen pple more worse... DISAPPEAR from pubs with stupid excuses when TIME TO PAY TIPS FOR THE GIRLS... haiz... KNN, in the end I also paisei, have to pay on his behalf to the girl for the tips. These type of guys better stay far far away from me..FYI, the tips is only 20 - 30 dollars and still got pple run too...

Haiz, all kinds of pple also have.

Part and parcel of cheonging... :)

[Heart Break Kid]

SBF got alot of loaded bros. But really..with 3-4k monthly also need to play the disappearing acts meh when time to pay?

But seriously, like I always say..

if you want to cheong, LIVE WITHIN YOR LIMITS. Know what is yor expectations when cheonging and dont go beyond what you can afford.....

I have seen pple more worse... DISAPPEAR from pubs with stupid excuses when TIME TO PAY TIPS FOR THE GIRLS... haiz... KNN, in the end I also paisei, have to pay on his behalf to the girl for the tips. These type of guys better stay far far away from me..FYI, the tips is only 20 - 30 dollars and still got pple run too...

Haiz, all kinds of pple also have.

common lah ..2 years ago I knew one samster here. He financially tight still jio mi cheong one small KTV HH.
Then he sit with 2 girls when billing he asked mi to foot then he went outside the KTV to hide without paying his girls' tips.

Just to avoid paying $20 tip to each girl ..his girls scolded mi :mad: & went outside to search for him.

Till now I remember the incident ...:o no money dun play women lah stay at home & fuck your ugly wife better :mad:

This type of poor & lowly educated samster never think for his friends or buddies.

[DTCEPL]

This type of poor & lowly educated samster never think for his friends or buddies.

This type u don't call them friends or buddies.....they are just cheong kar:rolleyes:

[Fatjumbo]

.....?????.....300-400/mth loaded????? Wah...me must b living in a diff dimension from u Bro... :p

Anyway, me also no CPF...next time dunno where to stay le...think must work harder to c if can find PRC to let me sleep at their rented apartments :D

Thanks bro for upping my pts. Haha.... no need to work harder lah. Learn from Bro DYBJ lor.... sure to enjoy some layover at the gals' apartments...best is to find one who's renting one room to herself. Lagi shiok !!! Can Tabao makan and watch DVD in the room plus some IPPT training for 6 or 8 packs ( u know lah ).

Happy cheonging :D

[Fatjumbo]

Wow Bro Heart break kid,

Who's the powerful siamster ah ?? So bad ah, come out cheong ..pass burden to buddies ....not so nice leh. Share equally is the best. No money don't cheong, stay at home PCC better. cum out liao also same feeling, best don have to pay !!

:p

Jumbo

[Fishcer]

Thanks bro for upping my pts. Haha.... no need to work harder lah. Learn from Bro DYBJ lor.... sure to enjoy some layover at the gals' apartments...best is to find one who's renting one room to herself. Lagi shiok !!! Can Tabao makan and watch DVD in the room plus some IPPT training for 6 or 8 packs ( u know lah ).

Happy cheonging :D

I prefer to find those few gals rent 1 unit themselves 1...got more things to see...hahaha :D

[Fatjumbo]

Hi Bro Fischer,

Hahaha...got your point..wow power leh !!! Can see many of them in their nighties haha....transparent leh. :D

[Heart Break Kid]

Wow Bro Heart break kid,

Who's the powerful siamster ah ?? So bad ah, come out cheong ..pass burden to buddies ....not so nice leh. Share equally is the best. No money don't cheong, stay at home PCC better. cum out liao also same feeling, best don have to pay !!

:p

Jumbo

Bro Fatjumbo ..this happen 2 years ago he is a young married man then 28 yrs old just got his HDB flat.
I saw his wife outside with him before ..his wife quite ugly-looking that why he always go KTV to eat.

Because he felt that his money should spend on furnishing his HDB flat yet want to cheong without paying.

Then I guess he earning around $1,500~$2,000 a month as engineering assistant

[Fatjumbo]

Hi Bro Heart break Kid,

Really salute this chap lor, really got thick face leh..... not say earning tons of salary yet dare to cheong and best pass tipping affair to his cheong bros after he finished his cheonging session. what a pal ?? :mad:

Is he here in my thread ? This guy really power !! Think you guys must be siaming him forever since then. Cheers,

Jumbo :p

[diehard4ever15@]

yo bro fatjumbo. long time no talk.
wahlau. u all damn powderful. 2pages worth of talking about kiko. :eek:

like so many people scare of him.

[alwayseatout]

Bro kiko, for the safety and good health of all the bros here and their family members, only one advice.

Dun cheong.

Haha! I like ur advice! :)

[Fatjumbo]

Yo Bro alwayseatout,

What happen to your pts ?? Fallen like stock market .... ?? Or zapper on the loose again :D

[kiko]

To all bros: I had learnt my lesson , i will listen to the advise of the bros. And i will cheong with care ! Thank you:)

[diehard4ever15@]

hope that u really listen to our advice. Pls dont go KTV juz to FALL IN LOVE. if u wan, go SDU.

[Fatjumbo]

Nothing comes without any risks Bro Kiko,

Haha...Bro diehard suggested you go SDU, yea I will also advice tat SDU's variety of mei mei also has got gals waiting for their carrots ( potential BFs ) too....for their respective chopping board if you understand what I mean be it just dating or potential marriage in future. Depends on how u look at it in the long term lah, bro.

Best is to remain single and cheong with ( protection at all times ) all you like without touching the love nerve in your heart. That way you cheong without hurting yourself and your immediate family ( parents ). Yet can be a bastard to let go any sour relationship in time.

Happy cheonging :p

Jumbo

[pussyman72]

hehehe never expect so much respond for bro kiko :)

[kiko]

Bro Fatjumbo: You say SDU's variety of mei mei also has got gals waiting for their carrots.. what u mean , kindly explain. I thought SDU gals are all good gals, Isnt spore gals better than PRC ktv gals?

[diehard4ever15@]

hehehe never expect so much respond for bro kiko :)

haha. ppl juz tired of him asking around questions so they unload everything in the thread.
Kiko: good gals are good for wife mah. why u want ktv gals as wife? not only locals but normal girls will be better than ktv gals if u looking for lifelong partner. unless u wan change wife like changing underwear..then by all mean, go marry ktc gals. :D

[HCKing]

Nothing comes without any risks Bro Kiko,

Haha...Bro diehard suggested you go SDU, yea I will also advice tat SDU's variety of mei mei also has got gals waiting for their carrots ( potential BFs ) too....for their respective chopping board if you understand what I mean be it just dating or potential marriage in future. Depends on how u look at it in the long term lah, bro.

Best is to remain single and cheong with ( protection at all times ) all you like without touching the love nerve in your heart. That way you cheong without hurting yourself and your immediate family ( parents ). Yet can be a bastard to let go any sour relationship in time.

Happy cheonging :p

Jumbo

ah TS u finally show face liao. hehe. carrot or no carrot always chiong with big head and remain in control in any relationship and u will be safe. and yes if can switch to bastard mode anytime then u r qualified to chiong any ktv liao. hehehe.

[DTCEPL]

Bro Fatjumbo ..this happen 2 years ago he is a young married man then 28 yrs old just got his HDB flat.
I saw his wife outside with him before ..his wife quite ugly-looking that why he always go KTV to eat.

Because he felt that his money should spend on furnishing his HDB flat yet want to cheong without paying.

Then I guess he earning around $1,500~$2,000 a month as engineering assistant

Frankly speaking, I also got a cheapo Cheong kaki whom I always end up footing the Drinks Money, Mummy and Waiters/Waitress Tips, got to fork out $100 for his tip to his gals and also pay for his taxi home. Then we cheong HC, got to pay for the massage and also for specials I got to loan him....then in the end, he 'forgot' such a loan.:rolleyes:

Nowadays, I drop him from my Cheonging Kakis listing. I like to Cheong with Kakis whom, ' this time I pay, next round he pay and go round the circle for the Drinks and Tips'. Plus or minus we don't bother that much. Gals tipping we cover ownself.

[Fatjumbo]

Bro Fatjumbo: You say SDU's variety of mei mei also has got gals waiting for their carrots.. what u mean , kindly explain. I thought SDU gals are all good gals, Isnt spore gals better than PRC ktv gals?

Haha dear Bro kiko...in any dating groups, there is bound to be bad apples in there. some join for the sake of looking for life-long partner, some join for the sake of dating ( Cos parents, relatives cry father cry mum why never get hitched ), some join for the sake of finding a BF to sponsor whatever they desire ( Just like KTV gals or WLs ) eg your case....sunglasses or LV bags etc etc.

Gals will be gals lah...be it galfriend, wifeys, mistresses...etc etc. They all expect you to pay everything eventually as head of the household. In fact all Wifey lagi best !!! U never heard of the housewife famous phase ah,

My money is my money, your money is also my money....knn :D

Best is if u still single and want to cheong don't want to be KCed....don ever think of marriage.

Jumbo

[DTCEPL]

My money is my money, your money is also my money....knn :D



Yeah man, my ex wifey always inspect my wallet for extra cash.....then she will 'confiscate at least 70% of it.

But I have neber come close to her wallet or bank accounts......not to mention whats in the wallet/accounts - always maintain so secret and ask me to stay away when she goes into a bank/atm - bascially no trust.

[Fatjumbo]

Hello Bro HCking,

You are right, cheong with man in control. And be willing to turn bastard anytime is the safeguard for us as man. :p

My babe been asking why I so hardhearted ( Tie xin chang ) and cannot feel my love despite she's the one keep giving out all the time !!!

My simple ans is, you are willing party so am I. It took 2 hands to clap together. I have to be hardhearted cos I don't know when she will leave me for another man, hence I have to protect myself and be a bit selfish, also pop the golden question to her when she will want to leave me .....hahaha ( reverse psychology works ) .

Cheong safe bro. :D

[Heart Break Kid]

Hi Bro Heart break Kid,

Really salute this chap lor, really got thick face leh..... not say earning tons of salary yet dare to cheong and best pass tipping affair to his cheong bros after he finished his cheonging session. what a pal ?? :mad:

Is he here in my thread ? This guy really power !! Think you guys must be siaming him forever since then. Cheers,

Jumbo :p

I think this guy had long forsake his original nick & start a new nick jioing other samsters here to cheong with him.
In cyber world ..one guy many different nicks. In KTV scenes.. one smelly cheongster many different names meeting many other bros.

Frankly speaking, I also got a cheapo Cheong kaki whom I always end up footing the Drinks Money, Mummy and Waiters/Waitress Tips, got to fork out $100 for his tip to his gals and also pay for his taxi home. Then we cheong HC, got to pay for the massage and also for specials I got to loan him....then in the end, he 'forgot' such a loan.:rolleyes:

Nowadays, I drop him from my Cheonging Kakis listing. I like to Cheong with Kakis whom, ' this time I pay, next round he pay and go round the circle for the Drinks and Tips'. Plus or minus we don't bother that much. Gals tipping we cover ownself.

Dun bother to contact such people lah

[Heart Break Kid]

Bro Fatjumbo: You say SDU's variety of mei mei also has got gals waiting for their carrots.. what u mean , kindly explain. I thought SDU gals are all good gals, Isnt spore gals better than PRC ktv gals?

kiko ..you register as member with SDU/SDS & go there to see, make friends & understand these spore girls.

Hearsay most of the spore girls in SDU/SDS had personalities & character problem so they have problems making friends outside
(not just with guys but with gals too) that why there are in these clubs (dun go there with high hopes)

No harm joining the club to see more people at least better than you go KTV ..goodie luck :D

[alwayseatout]

Yo Bro alwayseatout,

What happen to your pts ?? Fallen like stock market .... ?? Or zapper on the loose again :D

Some of the members dun like my posts or me lor... :(

[alwayseatout]

kiko ..you register as member with SDU/SDS & go there to see, make friends & understand these spore girls.

Hearsay the spore girls in SDU/SDS had personalities & character problem so they have problems making friends outside
(not just with guys but with gals too) that why there are in these clubs (dun go there with high hopes)

No harm joining the club to see more people at least better than you go KTV ..goodie luck :D

I agree w HBK. U get to know more gals as friends from SDU/SDS, get to know more abt them n hopefully choose one of them. I rather u spend money on these gals (but not alot la) then spend it on KTV gals who might not give u long-term happiness yet burn a huge hole in ur pocket...

[alwayseatout]

Frankly speaking, I also got a cheapo Cheong kaki whom I always end up footing the Drinks Money, Mummy and Waiters/Waitress Tips, got to fork out $100 for his tip to his gals and also pay for his taxi home. Then we cheong HC, got to pay for the massage and also for specials I got to loan him....then in the end, he 'forgot' such a loan.:rolleyes:

Nowadays, I drop him from my Cheonging Kakis listing. I like to Cheong with Kakis whom, ' this time I pay, next round he pay and go round the circle for the Drinks and Tips'. Plus or minus we don't bother that much. Gals tipping we cover ownself.

:eek: U r v generous n chin chai!

[DTCEPL]

:eek: U r v generous n chin chai!

If financials allows, I am very chin chai or not calculative lah....but hope that Cheong Kakis dun take advantage lah.

Each take turns to foot the bill....better rite! If short of cash...of course can also cover the cost to the extent of tipping the gals, but hopefully the other party can return a favour during pay day lah.

[Fatjumbo]

Some of the members dun like my posts or me lor... :(

Bor Chap them loh ...hee hee hee :D

[colins]

Yeah man, my ex wifey always inspect my wallet for extra cash.....then she will 'confiscate at least 70% of it.

But I have neber come close to her wallet or bank accounts......not to mention whats in the wallet/accounts - always maintain so secret and ask me to stay away when she goes into a bank/atm - bascially no trust.

That's becos all shanghainese girls do this. They do this becos everyone does that including their mothers. Trust or not, you can't really say, even with huge amount of trust, they are still the caretaker of the vault. The classic tagline is, "I can manage our money". Spoken with so much confidence that you'll just pass your keys to the vault to her. So if it had been your choice not to dispute this statement(her tagline), you can't really blame anyone.

[ekemono]

Other than your mother, never trust a woman with your money. Or more specifically, your savings because everyone including you and me would prefer to have the money in our own pocket. Our pretty lovey dovey wife/gf/mistress is no exception either.
Joint account is the furthest you will go for

[Heart Break Kid]

Other than your mother, never trust a woman with your money. Or more specifically, your savings because everyone including you and me would prefer to have the money in our own pocket. Our pretty lovey dovey wife/gf/mistress is no exception either.
Joint account is the furthest you can get

Some samsters & friends I know...they actually trusted whores :D

[uiop]

Some samsters & friends I know...they actually trusted whores :D

For those who trusted whores are nuts.:D

[DTCEPL]

Some samsters & friends I know...they actually trusted whores

Good one:D I trust them too:rolleyes: thats why I ended up with a empty wallet always, whahahaha