"Genuinely" nice WL experiences you have met (not simping or KC)

[happytree123]

Talked about simping, KC, carrothead many times in this forum

But anyone here felt that their WL was genuinely* nice to them. Like the behaviour or the heart to heart conversation in the bedroom, outside session or texting was not the usual sweet talk, but something quite meaningful

*I know still got chance to be a show put up by the WL, but I am just asking about the moments you felt like it was truly genuine

I mean i got good and bad experiences with WL, but there was one that left me quite memorable.

This particular WL kept asking me to stop coming to GL for therapy session and go find one serious life partner for good. It wasn't like some flirting tone, but somewhat serious tone even though we just finished bonking

Not that she disliked me or what, but she just kept going along the idea that I will somehow regret it in the future. She somehow believe that I will grow addicted to GL and get KC by those unscrupulous WL eventually..if I don't stop soon. Also described that GL is really just a place for "cash for services" and nothing else.... And she repeated it everytime I RTF.

even if I want to extend session, she also like hesitant to accept it straightaway

though my r/s with this WL somehow turned more distant for unknown reasons, I felt it was like a unusual concern by a WL. So wondering anyone here got any stories to sharee

[DerpyAxolotl]

Hmmm I went to only 3 in singapore, but they always tell me I'm young and to find a girlfriend instead of going GL lolol. And then after that tell me come GL more often will be less awkward with girls ahahahahha.

Those I went to in Japan (THC) try to get my line just to ask me to rtf.

[Newsasap]

Talked about simping, KC, carrothead many times in this forum

But anyone here felt that their WL was genuinely* nice to them. Like the behaviour or the heart to heart conversation in the bedroom, outside session or texting was not the usual sweet talk, but something quite meaningful

*I know still got chance to be a show put up by the WL, but I am just asking about the moments you felt like it was truly genuine

I mean i got good and bad experiences with WL, but there was one that left me quite memorable.

This particular WL kept asking me to stop coming to GL for therapy session and go find one serious life partner for good. It wasn't like some flirting tone, but somewhat serious tone even though we just finished bonking

Not that she disliked me or what, but she just kept going along the idea that I will somehow regret it in the future. She somehow believe that I will grow addicted to GL and get KC by those unscrupulous WL eventually..if I don't stop soon. Also described that GL is really just a place for "cash for services" and nothing else.... And she repeated it everytime I RTF.

even if I want to extend session, she also like hesitant to accept it straightaway

though my r/s with this WL somehow turned more distant for unknown reasons, I felt it was like a unusual concern by a WL. So wondering anyone here got any stories to sharee

It's very easy to know whether the wl interested in you or not?

Few things you can observe here?
1) she wants to meet you after she knock off from work, she may wants you to accompany her for supper.
2) on her off day she wants to goes to movies or to the seaside for a stroll.
3) when she with you she always hold hand in hand with you + dfk.
4) some lady like 谈心with boyfriend. To kill their loneliness. You had to sacrifice your time to win her over.
These are the places that doesn't burn your pocket.

[Hantu69]

It's very easy to know whether the wl interested in you or not?

Few things you can observe here?
1) she wants to meet you after she knock off from work, she may wants you to accompany her for supper.
2) on her off day she wants to goes to movies or to the seaside for a stroll.
3) when she with you she always hold hand in hand with you + dfk.
4) some lady like 谈心with boyfriend. To kill their loneliness. You had to sacrifice your time to win her over.
These are the places that doesn't burn your pocket.

Up for nice sharing there bro 😆

[Bowiek]

It's very easy to know whether the wl interested in you or not?

Few things you can observe here?
1) she wants to meet you after she knock off from work, she may wants you to accompany her for supper.
2) on her off day she wants to goes to movies or to the seaside for a stroll.
3) when she with you she always hold hand in hand with you + dfk.
4) some lady like 谈心with boyfriend. To kill their loneliness. You had to sacrifice your time to win her over.
These are the places that doesn't burn your pocket. massage shops ladies easier to kc...more fun..some even marry customers after long courtship...as for geylang legal houses don't waste time..most are here for two years earn enough go back take care kids and family...eg g20 2038 rtn to Vietnam she blocked all her old customers and deleted her Singapore WeChat account..start a new life in Vietnam with new boyfriend who don't know she was a sex worker in Singapore before....

[Newsasap]

massage shops ladies easier to kc...more fun..some even marry customers after long courtship...as for geylang legal houses don't waste time..most are here for two years earn enough go back take care kids and family...eg g20 2038 rtn to Vietnam she blocked all her old customers and deleted her Singapore WeChat account..start a new life in Vietnam with new boyfriend who don't know she was a sex worker in Singapore before....
It's ok. I had enjoy her long enough, so many target to work on.

[electronics]

It's very easy to know whether the wl interested in you or not?

Few things you can observe here?
1) she wants to meet you after she knock off from work, she may wants you to accompany her for supper.
2) on her off day she wants to goes to movies or to the seaside for a stroll.
3) when she with you she always hold hand in hand with you + dfk.
4) some lady like 谈心with boyfriend. To kill their loneliness. You had to sacrifice your time to win her over.
These are the places that doesn't burn your pocket.

I have a recent experience, WL prepared very delicious food on her own. Went to a park and have the meal together. Can hold hands. No expensive meals or luxury shopping. Stroll along the beach and had some fruits near her house before separating for the day.

I think is a wonderful day out and did not damage pockets

[Newsasap]

Up for nice sharing there bro 😆
I had many of these meet up in my journey. Had to let go and moves to new ones. They keep coming.
桃花运。
Karma of gives and take account.

[Newsasap]

I have a recent experience, WL prepared very delicious food on her own. Went to a park and have the meal together. Can hold hands. No expensive meals or luxury shopping. Stroll along the beach and had some fruits near her house before separating for the day.

I think is a wonderful day out and did not damage pockets

Not all the time these meeting are about buying luxury goods. Sometimes the bond were affinity from past karma, continue the unfinish from previous life.
But... It will end after a period of time.
Later part you will never meet her again in your remaining lives.

[Hantu69]

I have a recent experience, WL prepared very delicious food on her own. Went to a park and have the meal together. Can hold hands. No expensive meals or luxury shopping. Stroll along the beach and had some fruits near her house before separating for the day.

I think is a wonderful day out and did not damage pockets

Well I guess sometimes the feeling of having some companionship is greater than just having sex.

Nice one 😊

[monastic]

Well I guess sometimes the feeling of having some companionship is greater than just having sex.

Nice one 😊

Fully agree, haha that's why when you rtf a WL who is like this, it doesn't feel commercial and makes the experience a lot nicer.

Had a WL before who never once asked to extend a session, didn't try to KC, felt more like a friend instead of commercial fast food bonking

[galaxyass]

There are quite a few WLs i encounter that are generally very nice and we just get along as friends and they will not chut pattern and try to KC you and make you exclusive to her in the shop. They also understand that we will be bored if i keep going for her and she also dont have any more new tricks... so they say its better to rotate to refresh each other... she will be happy to serve again when we choose her again after rotating... but sadly its only a handful that think this way..... majority of them would want to keep you all by herself and squeeze ur pocket dry till the last miserable drop...

[Bowiek]

There are quite a few WLs i encounter that are generally very nice and we just get along as friends and they will not chut pattern and try to KC you and make you exclusive to her in the shop. They also understand that we will be bored if i keep going for her and she also dont have any more new tricks... so they say its better to rotate to refresh each other... she will be happy to serve again when we choose her again after rotating... but sadly its only a handful that think this way..... majority of them would want to keep you all by herself and squeeze ur pocket dry till the last miserable drop...
95 per cent of girls don't accept you take other girls from same house .. jealousy is very ingrained in the human psyche....when her two years in Singapore finish they don't remember us anymore..they only remember the money.... that's all...welcome to the real world

[electronics]

95 per cent of girls don't accept you take other girls from same house .. jealousy is very ingrained in the human psyche....when her two years in Singapore finish they don't remember us anymore..they only remember the money.... that's all...welcome to the real world

Do most of the WL who come here mostly in debts when in their hometown?

[Bowiek]

Do most of the WL who come here mostly in debts when in their hometown?

99 per cent heavily in debt in their hometowns,,bank loans ,loanshark debts etc,if not who want to be screwed everyday by 15 to 20 different men for two years,,working sex industry permanently will destroy their ability to have children when they grow old and affect their fertility..that why those younger ones cut card early when they earn enough and faster go back marry and settle down.do some small business rather than whole life work as sex worker...stuck in a dark hole

[hondalvin]

Do most of the WL who come here mostly in debts when in their hometown?

I would think most have certain debts or difficulty at home. Some also just want to earn more money, bring back home and start business. That would let them exit the tougher life and a headstart too.

WL are also human. If we treat them nice, most will reciprocate i guess.

[monastic]

Sometimes I wonder what goes through a WL’s mind as she sits in the plane about to take off, with a tidy sum in her bank account, having completed her tour of duty of upping 15-20+ men a day for 25 days a month over 24 months.

What will she be reflecting on regarding this quirk of fate?

[Topper]

Don't waste time. As mentioned before (https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=24128619&postcount=1909), never ever go GL to find any 'friend' or worse 'love'.

The best WL can give is to give you an 'honest' sincere advice telling you that you should go to GL less often and find a gf outside instead, which is a fact. Anything beyond that will go into danger territory 最终踏入一条注定无归的绝路。

The main problem nice and kind-hearted SG guys, esp. those weak simps is that they always want to go to GL, esp. find PRC WLs for some form of therapy session but end up confusing therapy with friendship or worse, love, thinking that they can find some lost gem, siao, LOL.

In fact, WL themselves knew that and some nice ones even warned you beforehand but the foolish ones will always turn a blind eye (even when the signs are quite obvious) and try all ways to squeeze out some form of 'friendship' or love in WLs. This is called self-pwn 咎由自取，自作孽不可饶。

I had a heart to heart talk with a WL not too long ago about this topic. Initially she was quite shock and kept quiet. Prior to that, key thing I've told her is that once in the room we only 捧场做戏，扮演角色，once out of room the show will end, steady, which is fair for everyone without any nonsense or stress. So she knew what I knew so never try to play any tricks with me (in fact, once they hear certain Chinese phrases hint from me and from my demeanor, they jitao back off already and willingly proceed to role-play to complete the mission, LOL.)

Then she finally relented to totally agree with me that once they stepped into this line, its a goner as they are already corrupted with no return and only motivated by greed for money and will never ever be truly accepted by any men, esp. those in SG who already knew they are cheekons being farked and risks being raw'ed and creampied by so many guys on a daily basis (A few even shared with me on how guys always tried to find ways to trick and raw them and some of them even cried til I have to console them LOL, sipeh charmz.)

What most PRC WLs told me is that none of their family members or friends knew they come here as cheekons (they were told they come here to work in service line like nail salons etc., LOL), obviously because its a taboo and family shame, hence once they RTC, they intend to start a new life 神不知鬼不觉 after settling their financial issues and would rather remain single as they have seen through all kinds of 形形色色的男人 and totally sick of themselves using all kinds of tricks to manipulate men's emotions to siphon monies and hence they knew men's weakness too well to believe in any friendship or even love, in fact they finally found out that only with money is the real friend and love, LMAO.

So if you get the drift, ask yourself, since they knew you knew their secret as cheekons, how could anything good develop out of it except on a transactional basis or let you off alive without siphoning you dry? LMAO.;)

[notyboy]

Sometimes I wonder what goes through a WL’s mind as she sits in the plane about to take off, with a tidy sum in her bank account, having completed her tour of duty of upping 15-20+ men a day for 25 days a month over 24 months.

What will she be reflecting on regarding this quirk of fate?

ya lah, nobody will know unless she ownself say. she just another person come back from overseas, maybe ppl think she working normal job, maybe studying, maybe just traveling. as long as she keep quiet, act normal, life go on. only she know what she went thru, what she sacrifice, what she gain. end of the day, $$ is $$, past is past. now just need to plan next step, start fresh or find another way to make $$ again.

[notyboy]

Don't waste time. As mentioned before (https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=24128619&postcount=1909), never ever go GL to find any 'friend' or worse 'love'.

The best WL can give is to give you an 'honest' sincere advice telling you that you should go to GL less often and find a gf outside instead, which is a fact. Anything beyond that will go into danger territory 最终踏入一条注定无归的绝路。

The main problem nice and kind-hearted SG guys, esp. those weak simps is that they always want to go to GL, esp. find PRC WLs for some form of therapy session but end up confusing therapy with friendship or worse, love, thinking that they can find some lost gem, siao, LOL.

In fact, WL themselves knew that and some nice ones even warned you beforehand but the foolish ones will always turn a blind eye (even when the signs are quite obvious) and try all ways to squeeze out some form of 'friendship' or love in WLs. This is called self-pwn 咎由自取，自作孽不可饶。

I had a heart to heart talk with a WL not too long ago about this topic. Initially she was quite shock and kept quiet. Prior to that, key thing I've told her is that once in the room we only 捧场做戏，扮演角色，once out of room the show will end, steady, which is fair for everyone without any nonsense or stress. So she knew what I knew so never try to play any tricks with me.

Then she finally relented to totally agree with me that once they stepped into this line, its a goner as they are already corrupted with no return and only motivated by greed for money and will never ever be truly accepted by any men, esp. those in SG who already knew they are cheekons being farked and risks being raw'ed and creampied by so many guys on a daily basis.

What most PRC WLs told me is that none of their family members or friends knew they come here as cheekons (they were told they come here to work in service line like nail salons etc., LOL), obviously because its a taboo and family shame, hence once they RTC, they intend to start a new life 神不知鬼不觉 after settling their financial issues and will either remain single as they have seen through all kinds of 形形色色的男人 and totally sick of themselves using all kinds of tricks to manipulate men's emotions to siphon monies and hence they knew men's weakness too well to believe in any friendship or even love, in fact they finally found out that only with money is the real friend and love, LMAO.

So if you get the drift, ask yourself, since they knew you knew their secret as cheekons, how could anything good develop out of it except on a transactional basis or let you off alive without siphoning you dry? LMAO.;)

lol bro, u sum up damn solid liao, those simps really no cure, keep thinking they special can “rescue” a WL, end up only kena played like clown. wl all pro max, they see all type of guys before, know how to act, give u fake gf feel, but once u step out, game over, $$ talk only. they just here to make bank, then diam diam go back home start fresh like nth happen. even they themselves see thru men too well, where got time for real feelings? some even disgusted w their own life, how to love another person? so those still dreaming of “friendship” or “love” with a WL, self-pwn jialat, confirm kanna milk dry, no cure sia.

[electronics]

A few even shared with me on how guys always tried to find ways to trick and raw them and some of them even cried til I have to console them LOL, sipeh charmz.

I heard from WL some client would secretly removed cap when changing positions and when found out say accidentally cap cane off

[Topper]

I heard from WL some client would secretly removed cap when changing positions and when found out say accidentally cap cane off

Correct, there is absolutely no way to remove the risks of any customer from rawing them.

I estimate that out of 10 customers, on a daily basis as high as 70% would attempt in some ways to raw them shiok shiok, esp. those WLs with a pretty face and killer figure for the thrill of it like a trophy prize, LOL.

Of course out of sympathy I have always warned the new arrivals (esp. those who are new in this line) on how to protect themselves but the risk is always high and inevitable. I can only help to lessen the damage.

Fun fact is, many WLs, even PRCs WL always started this line trying to keep themselves 'chaste' and 'pure' many started with no kissing/DFK or AR, then most (esp. when they become APs) eventually get corrupted to earn more monies to retain regulars, give in resigning to their fate and even allowed raw on some selected customers either provided free if they like you or need additional tips as usual LOL.

So this is who they are once step into this line.

In this world, there is nothing that money cannot buy. With enough monies given and a proper deal struck, you can even make them your sex slave like a sex doll, discreetly of course, LOL.

[electronics]

Correct, there is absolutely no way to remove the risks of any customer from rawing them.

I estimate that out of 10 customers, on a daily basis as high as 70% would attempt in some ways to raw them shiok shiok, esp. those WLs with a pretty face and killer figure for the thrill of it like a trophy prize, LOL.

Of course out of sympathy I have always warned the new arrivals (esp. those who are new in this line) on how to protect themselves but the risk is always high and inevitable. I can only help to lessen the damage.

Fun fact is, many WLs, even PRCs WL always started this line trying to keep themselves 'chaste' and 'pure' many started with no kissing/DFK or AR, then most (esp. when they become APs) eventually get corrupted to earn more monies to retain regulars, give in resigning to their fate and even allowed raw on some selected customers either provided free if they like you or need additional tips as usual LOL.

So this is who they are once step into this line.

In this world, there is nothing that money cannot buy. With enough monies given and a proper deal struck, you can even make them your sex slave like a sex doll, discreetly of course, LOL.

Getting raw from PRC WL without asking or having to pay extra can be really nice and elevate the session experience.

But could be too dangerous.

[happytree123]

Fun fact is, many WLs, even PRCs WL always started this line trying to keep themselves 'chaste' and 'pure' many started with no kissing/DFK or AR, then most (esp. when they become APs) eventually get corrupted to earn more monies to retain regulars, give in resigning to their fate and even allowed raw on some selected customers either provided free if they like you or need additional tips as usual LOL.

So this is who they are once step into this line.

In this world, there is nothing that money cannot buy. With enough monies given and a proper deal struck, you can even make them your sex slave like a sex doll, discreetly of course, LOL.

end of the day, they can call themselves 好姐妹 or what, but it is still a money game between all the WL including their closest roommate. PRC culture is the ultimate dog eat dog world

If G1 sees G2 receiving more customers including her former regulars, naturally she will also eye red and start to remove her "no DFK" rules or whatsoever. Since you already "betrayed" your body already for the love of money, nothing else to lose to earn more $$$

it is either you earn more to GTFO earlier from GL or you stick on to your "principles", earn less and stay longer here...

[foxtro]

Don't waste time. As mentioned before (https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=24128619&postcount=1909), never ever go GL to find any 'friend' or worse 'love'.


plenty of truths in this solid post, appreciate it ;)

[happytree123]

Sometimes I wonder what goes through a WL’s mind as she sits in the plane about to take off, with a tidy sum in her bank account, having completed her tour of duty of upping 15-20+ men a day for 25 days a month over 24 months.

What will she be reflecting on regarding this quirk of fate?

ya lah, nobody will know unless she ownself say. she just another person come back from overseas, maybe ppl think she working normal job, maybe studying, maybe just traveling. as long as she keep quiet, act normal, life go on. only she know what she went thru, what she sacrifice, what she gain. end of the day, $$ is $$, past is past. now just need to plan next step, start fresh or find another way to make $$ again.

Firstly, I think see whether they even got suffer from PTSD/mental issues or not, after getting fucked by men of all kinds and probably treated like trash occasionally. Cannot deny some customers may have use some of "pressure" to get what they want

if they lucky and earn a tidy surplus of SGD from GL, they can probably start a business or expand their family business.

Finding a proper job is gonna be hard. Probably only can go back to entry level jobs which is basically have no career progression. i mean what skills can you pick up from GL?? Joining those branded organisations in Tier 1 cities is a pipe dream

if they resigned to fate, then only can go back to their 老本行 which is the sex trade - either in China or go somewhere else like Malaysia. Some become WL till their seniors years cos they know nothing else. Remember Petain Road WLs?

Lottery prize - find a rich/decent guy and tie the knot with him. But this one also has a lot of ugly ending. What you see in TV dramas is usually a reflection of real life

[happytree123]

maybe SG govt should just mandate 14 mths limit stay for WLs.

Better for us, less chance of KC since they will leave soon and new batch of WLs to patronise often...

but i think the supply quality will drop somemore...as a resuklt.

[notyboy]

Firstly, I think see whether they even got suffer from PTSD/mental issues or not, after getting fucked by men of all kinds and probably treated like trash occasionally. Cannot deny some customers may have use some of "pressure" to get what they want

if they lucky and earn a tidy surplus of SGD from GL, they can probably start a business or expand their family business.

Finding a proper job is gonna be hard. Probably only can go back to entry level jobs which is basically have no career progression. i mean what skills can you pick up from GL?? Joining those branded organisations in Tier 1 cities is a pipe dream

if they resigned to fate, then only can go back to their 老本行 which is the sex trade - either in China or go somewhere else like Malaysia. Some become WL till their seniors years cos they know nothing else. Remember Petain Road WLs?

Lottery prize - find a rich/decent guy and tie the knot with him. But this one also has a lot of ugly ending. What you see in TV dramas is usually a reflection of real life

ya bro, end of the day, wls ownself know what they went through.. some move on, some kena mental damage, some just act normal and keep quiet. if lucky, got savings can start biz or help family, but finding proper job damn hard, no skills, no cert, how to compete? most end up doing small trades or go back to old biz. some heng heng marry decent guy, but also got risk kena tulan or controlled. once step in, hard to erase, just hope they use $$ wisely and don’t get stuck in the cycle.

[Topper]

plenty of truths in this solid post, appreciate it ;)

Upz you 22 Huat points for appreciation. :)

[Hantu69]

plenty of truths in this solid post, appreciate it ;)

Here comes your first power bro 😆

[Ahboy113]

Don't waste time. As mentioned before (https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=24128619&postcount=1909), never ever go GL to find any 'friend' or worse 'love'.

The best WL can give is to give you an 'honest' sincere advice telling you that you should go to GL less often and find a gf outside instead, which is a fact. Anything beyond that will go into danger territory 最终踏入一条注定无归的绝路。

The main problem nice and kind-hearted SG guys, esp. those weak simps is that they always want to go to GL, esp. find PRC WLs for some form of therapy session but end up confusing therapy with friendship or worse, love, thinking that they can find some lost gem, siao, LOL.

In fact, WL themselves knew that and some nice ones even warned you beforehand but the foolish ones will always turn a blind eye (even when the signs are quite obvious) and try all ways to squeeze out some form of 'friendship' or love in WLs. This is called self-pwn 咎由自取，自作孽不可饶。

I had a heart to heart talk with a WL not too long ago about this topic. Initially she was quite shock and kept quiet. Prior to that, key thing I've told her is that once in the room we only 捧场做戏，扮演角色，once out of room the show will end, steady, which is fair for everyone without any nonsense or stress. So she knew what I knew so never try to play any tricks with me (in fact, once they hear certain Chinese phrases hint from me and from my demeanor, they jitao back off already and willingly proceed to role-play to complete the mission, LOL.)

Then she finally relented to totally agree with me that once they stepped into this line, its a goner as they are already corrupted with no return and only motivated by greed for money and will never ever be truly accepted by any men, esp. those in SG who already knew they are cheekons being farked and risks being raw'ed and creampied by so many guys on a daily basis (A few even shared with me on how guys always tried to find ways to trick and raw them and some of them even cried til I have to console them LOL, sipeh charmz.)

What most PRC WLs told me is that none of their family members or friends knew they come here as cheekons (they were told they come here to work in service line like nail salons etc., LOL), obviously because its a taboo and family shame, hence once they RTC, they intend to start a new life 神不知鬼不觉 after settling their financial issues and would rather remain single as they have seen through all kinds of 形形色色的男人 and totally sick of themselves using all kinds of tricks to manipulate men's emotions to siphon monies and hence they knew men's weakness too well to believe in any friendship or even love, in fact they finally found out that only with money is the real friend and love, LMAO.

So if you get the drift, ask yourself, since they knew you knew their secret as cheekons, how could anything good develop out of it except on a transactional basis or let you off alive without siphoning you dry? LMAO.;)

Reading your posting always send me into deep thinking… lols… always 一针见血! Even most if us know what’s is in WL mind, many still fall into it. 😅 which including me…. :(

I am not sure whether will I fall into another hole, I keep reminding myself just release and go. Dont get WL WeChat, just make booking with OKT to avoid end up chatting with WL, 避免踏入一条注定无归的绝路. lols…

[Topper]

Reading your posting always send me into deep thinking… lols… always 一针见血! Even most if us know what’s is in WL mind, many still fall into it. �� which including me…. :(

I am not sure whether will I fall into another hole, I keep reminding myself just release and go. Dont get WL WeChat, just make booking with OKT to avoid end up chatting with WL, 避免踏入一条注定无归的绝路. lols…

Can one la. Unless you are still in your teens or never had gf before then still can understand sure GG. It's always once bitten twice shy kind of thing. Nothing wrong with getting PRC WL Wechat, in fact you should. Key thing is to play along and learn their patterns and behaviour to have fun so that you know how to counter while preserving your core 玩归玩，守住本心见好就收。

Imagine even self-entitled local SPG can play you, don't talk about the risks compared to deep 深不可测 PRC WLs who can easily 耍到你团团转, like tio 灌了迷魂汤, LOL.

Of course YMMV depending on your level of life experience, but if you are at least in your 30s and kernah played out by local women before, then after some deep thought most should be able to develop some kind of understanding to realise what I'm saying.

It's not too difficult to trick your mind to develop the correct mindset. Once you have successfully done, it's like unlocking some form of 'secret code' which totally transformed your heart and mind, like a new form of awakening. It becomes like a basic protective layer to guard your heart while continuously learning new ways to strengthen the armor to reach higher levels.

As I've mentioned before, cheonging involves high risks which requires extreme discipline like fighting a war. You must win over WLs at all costs.
Always remember, "人善被人欺，马善被人骑. 所以男人想要站得稳，必须心要狠, 要敢硬气一点她们敢跟你拼命吗？"

In a light-hearted way which is commonly depicted in modern China short movies, treat it like mastering some form of martial art as 习武者 with different levels of achievement to tackle PRC WLs as an opponent. You have to beat them at their own game. It takes time, some need to take a few falls before they wake up. But your ultimate aim must be to reach the more advanced levels at least at a level 2 '内劲修炼者'.

Once you attained level 2 as a 内劲高手, you should be able to eat most PRC WLs like breakfast who are all below this level. But if you meet one at level 3 宗师级, you better back off and practise more first before even finding her to RTF again else sure GG. So far out of the countless PRC WLs I booked, I've only met one at this level at L2045 currently still working there whom have taken many intoxicated victims along the way, starting to create ruckus with her own 黑粉丝 fans (going to be similar to ex-L1654A AP BaoBao whom OKT has to send back after causing too much trouble). Cuz no matter what I throw at her, she can still absorb, counter and escape NBCB sipeh tokongz LOL. (I won't mention her name to 保留悬念, to let you all discover the goodies, LOL)

Below shows different levels of achievement, so which level are you? ;)

Level 1. 基础境界：普通习武者
不入流：初学者，未掌握真正的武技，只能依靠蛮力或基础格斗技巧。
三流高手：掌握一定武学套路，力量和速度有提升，但尚无真正内力。
二流高手：具备一定实战经验，能够运用劲力，但还未触及“内劲”概念。
一流高手：内功小成，能够运转气息，发力更加精准，但仍属于普通武者范畴。

Level 2. 中级境界：内劲修炼者
后天境界：依靠后天修炼打通部分经脉，能够运转内力增强攻击，但未真正掌握“内劲”。
内劲高手：突破后天境，真正掌握“内劲”运用的武者。这一阶段的高手可以做到“隔空伤人”、“寸劲”（短距 离爆发极强攻击力）、以及提升身体机能（如轻功、抗击打能力）。
先天境界：内力深厚，经脉完全贯通，达到“气随意动、劲随心生”的程度，真正做到“举手投足皆可发劲”，此 时已属于武学宗师级人物。

Level 3. 高级境界：宗师级强者
宗师境界：真正的武学大师，内劲已达巅峰，可轻松“以柔克刚”、“四两拨千斤”，甚至能利用周围环境增强自 身战力。
大宗师境界：被尊为武学巅峰存在，已臻化境，武技可与天地自然融合，一招一式都暗合天地之理，甚至可做到“ 无招胜有招”。

Level 4. 终极境界：超凡脱俗
半步神仙：突破武道极限，进入传说中的领域，武功已达“人剑合一”、“天人合一”，一念之间可调动天地能量 加持自身。
神仙境界：真正脱离凡俗的极致境界，肉身已趋近不灭，战斗时几乎不受物理规则限制，达到“超凡入圣、虚无缥 缈”的境界。

:D

[galaxyass]

I guess most of the guys are generally nice people.... that is why when the WL treat you super nice.... you will automatically fall into their trap.... she also like you to a certain extend but not to the extend of sharing your hardship and spend her life with you... they are also in a foreign land and hope that there are people to take care of them. Smart ones will never show their true colours until they are sure you are over and done with them. Especially when their tour of duty is ending soon, you can see that there is a sudden surge of GFE and its ultra high... because they want to squeeze the maximum out of you before they leave. Even though we know their game, but they are playing with your heart.... so there is still a high chance you will fall for it over and over again...

[Bowiek]

I guess most of the guys are generally nice people.... that is why when the WL treat you super nice.... you will automatically fall into their trap.... she also like you to a certain extend but not to the extend of sharing your hardship and spend her life with you... they are also in a foreign land and hope that there are people to take care of them. Smart ones will never show their true colours until they are sure you are over and done with them. Especially when their tour of duty is ending soon, you can see that there is a sudden surge of GFE and its ultra high... because they want to squeeze the maximum out of you before they leave. Even though we know their game, but they are playing with your heart.... so there is still a high chance you will fall for it over and over again...
Those going ORD soon..we stop visiting them and look for new regulars...when they ORD we are still a memory in their brain..they move on..we also must move on

[galaxyass]

Those going ORD soon..we stop visiting them and look for new regulars...when they ORD we are still a memory in their brain..they move on..we also must move on
Very true.... always have a few regular for back up... once onenofnthem chut pattern.... striaght away move on to the next one and hunt for new ones at the same time.... this will minimise the damage to our heart and wallet...

[electronics]

Reading your posting always send me into deep thinking… lols… always 一针见血! Even most if us know what’s is in WL mind, many still fall into it. 😅 which including me…. :(

I am not sure whether will I fall into another hole, I keep reminding myself just release and go. Dont get WL WeChat, just make booking with OKT to avoid end up chatting with WL, 避免踏入一条注定无归的绝路. lols…

Don’t install WeChat on phone to reduce risk of liking the WL too much

[foxtro]

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[monastic]

Especially when their tour of duty is ending soon, you can see that there is a sudden surge of GFE and its ultra high... because they want to squeeze the maximum out of you before they leave.

Experienced this lol. She going back said I will miss you, make me want to rtf more that week cos of fomo until dick too exhausted. Looking back not really worth it

[happytree123]

Very true.... always have a few regular for back up... once onenofnthem chut pattern.... striaght away move on to the next one and hunt for new ones at the same time.... this will minimise the damage to our heart and wallet...

Smart ones will never show their true colours until they are sure you are over and done with them. Especially when their tour of duty is ending soon, you can see that there is a sudden surge of GFE and its ultra high... because they want to squeeze the maximum out of you before they leave. Even though we know their game, but they are playing with your heart.... so there is still a high chance you will fall for it over and over again...

wait till lull period like school holidays, when business start to drop, GFE pattern start to come back already. One of my first few WL, started during dec school holidays, business not good, so super charming and all. CNY onwards, business too good with new sponsors, start to play emo/silent mode game hahaha

so now for wechat, i also change strategy already with new PRC WL i met, I just talk about food and at most send 5 text bubbles per convo thread. no more dragging the convo for hours just to enhance the GFE, too dangerous. Once I smell any "why not RTF" messages, I just change topic or just don reply

PRC WLs really bcos you and her know Mandarin, very easy to form bonds like it or not.

now My strategy for the rest of the year is to move on more towards Thais and Viets to "take a break" from all these mind games.

[electronics]

wait till lull period like school holidays, when business start to drop, GFE pattern start to come back already. One of my first few WL, started during dec school holidays, business not good, so super charming and all. CNY onwards, business too good with new sponsors, start to play emo/silent mode game hahaha

so now for wechat, i also change strategy already with new PRC WL i met, I just talk about food and at most send 5 text bubbles per convo thread. no more dragging the convo for hours just to enhance the GFE, too dangerous. Once I smell any "why not RTF" messages, I just change topic or just don reply

PRC WLs really bcos you and her know Mandarin, very easy to form bonds like it or not.

now My strategy for the rest of the year is to move on more towards Thais and Viets to "take a break" from all these mind games.

How much RTF for same WL you guys think is too much?

If got chemistry with WL, is once a week or once in 2 weeks too much?

[galaxyass]

How much RTF for same WL you guys think is too much?

If got chemistry with WL, is once a week or once in 2 weeks too much?
Once a week is managable for Thai or Viet... $60x4=240 per month.... i see some of them go multiple times a week... they must be high paid job workers.... if have go more if not so much... go less abit... up to ur comfort level...

[Ahboy113]

Don’t install WeChat on phone to reduce risk of liking the WL too much

Recently those WL said can make booking via WeChat with them, I replied I will call OKT easier. To avoid become GFE chat, lols…

When WL said her aunty coming soon, want to bring her out? I replied can’t. 😅

Those without family can just go as you have nothing to loose, just may get into deep KC only. Haha… they will give you that 初恋的感觉。:D

[electronics]

Recently those WL said can make booking via WeChat with them, I replied I will call OKT easier. To avoid become GFE chat, lols…

When WL said her aunty coming soon, want to bring her out? I replied can’t. 😅

Those without family can just go as you have nothing to loose, just may get into deep KC only. Haha… they will give you that 初恋的感觉。:D

I’m somewhat curious what do these bro do when go out with WL on their rest days that could damage their wallet?

[Topper]

I’m somewhat curious what do these bro do when go out with WL on their rest days that could damage their wallet?

If you have to ask this question means will likely be eaten alive like breakfast by WLs, esp. PRC ones.

For Vietbu/Siambu still not so bad initially, they can pretend to go dutch and ask you just go shopping and even say they don't need you to buy them expensive things just cheap simple ones as a token will do etc. they will even choose some cheap ones then ask you politely whether can buy like damn submissive....but later still all part of pig butchering techniques to feed their family or whole village.

深不可测 PRC ones are the worst with all kinds of 欲擒故纵/欲扬先抑 tricks to try to make you like a confused nut first. As they consider themselves of a superior breed due to their deep cultural history, they always tend to deploy deceptive indirect methods as they don't wish to appear too obvious.

For e.g. if they knew you are just a normal 上班族 with some means, they will first test the water by initially saying they willing to go AA制 to split the bill, then later flip by blatantly asking you to bring them to expensive restaurant for a treat (on the pretext of all kinds of excuses like to celebrate this or that etc, extremely imaginative like a script), then order all kinds of expensive dishes and test you by asking whether you feel any heart pain or not. In modern China culture, when 势利眼 or 拜金女 ask you whether you ok to AA制, they are actually only testing your means whether you are a 潜力股 to provide them with luxury with zero intention to help you reduce your expenses at all, LOL. This is how farking crazy is their culture.

Once they sensed you are not too willing to give more, they will suddenly start to 翻脸 to say they don't wish to spend anymore of your money, want to go back already making you super confused (as naive SG men has never met such ridiculously cunning women in their entire lives so will tio shock first, LOL) and don't intend to go out with you anymore with imaginative strange excuses and play 冷暴力 first, then set the trap to patiently wait for your Wechat reply to ask what happen, apologize and offer more etc., e.g. assure them not to worry will give them more tips to compensate for their time, buy more expensive stuffs for them like jewelry, iphone, LV bags etc. Once you do that, they will jitao flip prata and become alive again, LOL. And if you are foolish enough to simp them with over-promises but later refuse to give what they want, they might even throw things at you in the room and literally beat you up as already experienced by some bros here, LOL.

Question is, are you game enough for it or wish to feel the thrill of walking into the slaughterhouse. :D

[notyboy]

bros, just sharing.. how to tell if a wls is treating u differently from other customers? i had an exp with one thai wl. she insisted that i wear a condom cuz she wanted to protect me from diseases & also protect herself from getting pregnant. her words stuck with me till now.. 'must wear condom... u protect me, i protect u.'

this was at hotel where we usually relax after goin out.. where she preferred to have sex & be her natural self. she stopped me from meeting her at the brothel cuz she had trouble switching between her role with customers & her real self.

how do u know if she sincerely sees u as someone close? she’s naturally wet when having sex. she refuses $$ from u, even when u offer to comp her for the earnings she loses by taking off days to be with u. she shares her fam pics with u. she reveals her real name, saw it on her passport. she want to meet u outside once a week. sometimes, she even buys u gifts. u can clearly see the diff in her character when she’s at the brothel vs when she’s with u.

she just wants my companionship. she’s now back in thailand, but we’re still in contact. this is what true friendship is..

[walao]

Talked about simping, KC, carrothead many times in this forum

But anyone here felt that their WL was genuinely* nice to them. Like the behaviour or the heart to heart conversation in the bedroom, outside session or texting was not the usual sweet talk, but something quite meaningful

*I know still got chance to be a show put up by the WL, but I am just asking about the moments you felt like it was truly genuine

I mean i got good and bad experiences with WL, but there was one that left me quite memorable.

This particular WL kept asking me to stop coming to GL for therapy session and go find one serious life partner for good. It wasn't like some flirting tone, but somewhat serious tone even though we just finished bonking

Not that she disliked me or what, but she just kept going along the idea that I will somehow regret it in the future. She somehow believe that I will grow addicted to GL and get KC by those unscrupulous WL eventually..if I don't stop soon. Also described that GL is really just a place for "cash for services" and nothing else.... And she repeated it everytime I RTF.

even if I want to extend session, she also like hesitant to accept it straightaway

though my r/s with this WL somehow turned more distant for unknown reasons, I felt it was like a unusual concern by a WL. So wondering anyone here got any stories to sharee


Did she tell you go home and finish up your homework?

Walao

[happytree123]

Recently those WL said can make booking via WeChat with them, I replied I will call OKT easier. To avoid become GFE chat, lols…

When WL said her aunty coming soon, want to bring her out? I replied can’t. 😅

Those without family can just go as you have nothing to loose, just may get into deep KC only. Haha… they will give you that 初恋的感觉。:D



Once they sensed you are not too willing to give more, they will suddenly start to 翻脸 to say they don't wish to spend anymore of your money, want to go back already making you super confused (as naive SG men has never met such ridiculously cunning women in their entire lives so will tio shock first, LOL) and don't intend to go out with you anymore with imaginative strange excuses and play 冷暴力 first, then set the trap to patiently wait for your Wechat reply to ask what happen

Question is, are you game enough for it or wish to feel the thrill of walking into the slaughterhouse. :D

First step to avoid all these drama is to never exchange wechat/line

But, if you wanna spice things up and try to play along, then really must have some strategy or draw your red lines. Emo/mind game not really something you can fight back easily if you have been a Mr. Good guy all along.

Getting bitten may be unavoidable but at least you wake up from the first bite so got chance. If you get repeatedly bitten and the "KC venom" already infected your whole body, then really you can only cry with your bank account dried up.

I was quite close to falling for the KC trap but good advice from seasoned players here saved me. The manipulative WL that tried to KC me now moved on to "eat" other guys already after failing to use 冷暴力 and 翻脸 tactic on me. Now I more careful when chatting with new WL, so far so good.

so gotta agree with all the seasoned players here, diversify your WLs so you not easily captured by one. Always remember you are the payor, you have the loudest voice. Eventually, the current batch will leave one by one and new ones will come in so just take it easy. GL is an adult entertainment place, so come here and be entertained by WL, not getting fleeced by WL like some clueless boy

Otherwise, follow the best advice from some "kind" WL: Skip Geylang and find a serious GF outside.

[happytree123]

this was at hotel where we usually relax after goin out.. where she preferred to have sex & be her natural self. she stopped me from meeting her at the brothel cuz she had trouble switching between her role with customers & her real self.

how do u know if she sincerely sees u as someone close? she’s naturally wet when having sex. she refuses $$ from u, even when u offer to comp her for the earnings she loses by taking off days to be with u. she shares her fam pics with u. she reveals her real name, saw it on her passport. she want to meet u outside once a week. sometimes, she even buys u gifts. u can clearly see the diff in her character when she’s at the brothel vs when she’s with u.

she just wants my companionship. she’s now back in thailand, but we’re still in contact. this is what true friendship is..

not sure is it a Thai thing, but PRC WLs are really next level and trying to find a PRC equivalent of your case study is like less than 0.1%. guess could be a cultural thing..:confused::confused:

[electronics]

And if you are foolish enough to simp them with over-promises but later refuse to give what they want, they might even throw things at you in the room and literally beat you up as already experienced by some bros here, LOL.

Got bros pay $200 for sessions with WL and later whacked by WL once inside the room?

Wow, this is something new to me. :D

Sounds more exciting than having sax.

[Ahboy113]

not sure is it a Thai thing, but PRC WLs are really next level and trying to find a PRC equivalent of your case study is like less than 0.1%. guess could be a cultural thing..:confused::confused:

Yes, I would say is the cultural. They grown up in a different environment, Thai naturally are more friendly, kind hearted ppl(not saying PRC are not).
PRC grown up in a dog eat dog environment. This is what I experienced when working in Thailand for 3 years, china for 5 years odd in early year2000

[Ahboy113]

First step to avoid all these drama is to never exchange wechat/line

But, if you wanna spice things up and try to play along, then really must have some strategy or draw your red lines. Emo/mind game not really something you can fight back easily if you have been a Mr. Good guy all along.

Getting bitten may be unavoidable but at least you wake up from the first bite so got chance. If you get repeatedly bitten and the "KC venom" already infected your whole body, then really you can only cry with your bank account dried up.

I was quite close to falling for the KC trap but good advice from seasoned players here saved me. The manipulative WL that tried to KC me now moved on to "eat" other guys already after failing to use 冷暴力 and 翻脸 tactic on me. Now I more careful when chatting with new WL, so far so good.

so gotta agree with all the seasoned players here, diversify your WLs so you not easily captured by one. Always remember you are the payor, you have the loudest voice. Eventually, the current batch will leave one by one and new ones will come in so just take it easy. GL is an adult entertainment place, so come here and be entertained by WL, not getting fleeced by WL like some clueless boy

Otherwise, follow the best advice from some "kind" WL: Skip Geylang and find a serious GF outside.

That’s why I mentioned for those not attached, want to spice things up can try. You may ended up spending more then you had prepared, as you sure kena GongTao and spend willing till last drop… then suddenly wake up when WL tell you “ 我很喜欢你，但是我们不能一直这样下去，你是我成功之路的绊脚石。“

[Topper]

Got bros pay $200 for sessions with WL and later whacked by WL once inside the room?
Wow, this is something new to me. :D
Sounds more exciting than having sax.

Of course have as already mentioned in this L1612 thread post. (https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=24064393&postcount=639) I believe this is not the first time such incidents happened.

L16H12 Tiantian called her many times. She had a general attitude at first. Last time I went there, she asked me to buy her an LV bag, but I refused. Then asked for money, but I didn’t give her either. Then she got angry and started throwing things and hit me. I heard from a friend that she also fought with other customer like this last time?

It usually happened because customers go and simp them like 添狗 to seek solace through 'friendship' or 'love' then obviously the PRC WL smelled blood to execute their plan and eventually these guys become like 被灌迷魂汤 tio 耍到团团转.

Hence I've said that SG men too nice, naive and can never imagine in their wildest dreams how crazy 深不可测 PRC WLs can get by the time they realise already too late, hence always tio pwn and eaten like breakfast, LOL.

[Ahboy113]

How much RTF for same WL you guys think is too much?

If got chemistry with WL, is once a week or once in 2 weeks too much?

Very individual… I see some visit WL 3-4 times a week, 2-3 session per visit.
Some visit once a week or twice a month also have chemistry with WL
Above is I see from PRC house.

Thai house is 1844B, one guy can book 8-10 hours, job done go out, evening coming back again…

[monastic]

she just wants my companionship. she’s now back in thailand, but we’re still in contact. this is what true friendship is..

Is it common for WL to still keep in contact with customer/not delete contact once she RTC/RTH/RTV?

[Kobayashi99]

Most prc WL sell pussy since 15,16 yr old
To them just business, yet some simps too stupid.
If poor svc no need give face la, to them just business
Lousy svc = lousy business very simple

[notyboy]

Is it common for WL to still keep in contact with customer/not delete contact once she RTC/RTH/RTV?

bros, this kind of thing v rare, not common at all. most wls cut contact once rth, esp if they see cust as just biz. if she still keep in touch, nvr delete u, still msg even when no $$ benefit, then diff story. u will only know truth after rth.. whether u just another cust or really meant something to her..

[Ecuader]

Most prc WL sell pussy since 15,16 yr old
To them just business, yet some simps too stupid.
If poor svc no need give face la, to them just business
Lousy svc = lousy business very simple

+24 points

[galaxyass]

I always feel nothing is free in this world..... like the scam ad says... if its too good to be true.... chances are its not true.... anyway i do not like to take advantage of others or own anyone any favors... normally when you ask a WL for a price... tbey will say its up to you.... this is where the problem begins.... if you give too much.... we become carrot head.... if we give too little... it shows that she is totally not worth the price.... so this can never be balanced..... most WLs will tell you their bf or husband ditched them and they dont like guys of their own country.... the fact is they still have their bf or husband waiting for them back home.... anyway everybody has a life back home....

[superman67]

Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it
Never trust any whores ..always remember this rule ..:)

[Bowiek]

Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it
Never trust any whores ..always remember this rule ..:)

Golden rule

[iceman6666]

Talked about simping, KC, carrothead many times in this forum

But anyone here felt that their WL was genuinely* nice to them. Like the behaviour or the heart to heart conversation in the bedroom, outside session or texting was not the usual sweet talk, but something quite meaningful

*I know still got chance to be a show put up by the WL, but I am just asking about the moments you felt like it was truly genuine

I mean i got good and bad experiences with WL, but there was one that left me quite memorable.

This particular WL kept asking me to stop coming to GL for therapy session and go find one serious life partner for good. It wasn't like some flirting tone, but somewhat serious tone even though we just finished bonking

Not that she disliked me or what, but she just kept going along the idea that I will somehow regret it in the future. She somehow believe that I will grow addicted to GL and get KC by those unscrupulous WL eventually..if I don't stop soon. Also described that GL is really just a place for "cash for services" and nothing else.... And she repeated it everytime I RTF.

even if I want to extend session, she also like hesitant to accept it straightaway

though my r/s with this WL somehow turned more distant for unknown reasons, I felt it was like a unusual concern by a WL. So wondering anyone here got any stories to sharee

It is all just commercial sex, so don't put too much heart into things, and don't over think things, even though this may sometimes be easier said than done.

From what you have described, she is being upfront with you and did not want to lead you on. I believe she does not want to have any emotional entanglements with you (and likely her other customers for that matter). After all, WLs are here to work for the money. Having said so, I think she had conveyed her position in a respectful, dignified manner. So don't be unhappy over it. :)

[Masonary1]

Kena Zap by walao for no reason

Will stop contributing

[messi]

It is all just commercial sex, so don't put too much heart into things, and don't over think things, even though this may sometimes be easier said than done.

From what you have described, she is being upfront with you and did not want to lead you on. I believe she does not want to have any emotional entanglements with you (and likely her other customers for that matter). After all, WLs are here to work for the money. Having said so, I think she had conveyed her position in a respectful, dignified manner. So don't be unhappy over it. :)

Favour returned, thanks bro!

[airconvoc]

Have had plenty of pleasant experiences with WLs, especially those from GL.

One that stands out was G15 from L18H11 ($80 Thai) back in 2011-12. I was her regular cuz she was the whole package really, great looks and bod, great BBBJ and AR and FJ with her was always fun. After she ORD before she had to fly back to thailand she met up with me at Bugis Junction and treated me to Itacho sushi for a farewell meal. We went to buy perfume for her father as well, to my slight surprise she didn't ask me to pay for anything and it seemed like she really just wanted to show appreciation for my patronage before she left. Before she left in her taxi she gave me a friendly hug and said if I ever visit Chiangmai give her a call and she'll show me around. Really wholesome and heartwarming interaction overall!

[Hantu69]

Favour returned, thanks bro!

Nice sharing there bro 😊

[Topper]

This PRC property agent scammed 36 'boyfriends' into buying houses in China by executing the legendary 仙人跳 scheme. Most importantly, she initially appeared like an angel in front of all of them - kind, compassionate, submissive, filial, like the perfect wife etc. but after each sale, suddenly 翻脸比翻书还快，claim busy and block their Wechat, LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CLDPI0d2M

SPGs still pales in comparison and will never reach this level of deception.

So imagine if this kind of lady say later got into heavy financial trouble due to greed (whether through gambling, failed investments etc.) then come to SG as WL, just imagine what she will do to naive SG men who thought they are receiving 'nice WL experience', LOL. ;)

Watch this related movie about a pro PRC lady marriage scammer based on actual case on how the story unfolds and why as a guy, you must play along no matter what the WL tells you (whether in the end you want to find out the truth is another matter) LOL..:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwghyYSOi7s

news link: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/till-cash-do-us-part-woman-in-china-makes-55k-in-3-months-from-flash-marriages-and-divorces

https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3297438/china-woman-stages-sham-wedding-rich-man-scams-relatives-out-us16-million