How do you guys deal with Perimenopause wives??? big headache, no sex no appreciation

[cbkia222]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

[fallen11]

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. - slowly sit down with her, show her the issue. talk calmly, dont scare her. Let her know its a normal thing and she's not crazy or what. Just need to accept it and manage it. Else everyone around her will be the ones suffering. better yet, bring her to consult a specialist on such women issues (not a mental health doctor! more like a gynecologist).

Manage the hormonal changes / swings. There are some foods she can try to help manage that. Foods rich in magnesium, Vitamin D, etc. Banana, nuts, dark chocolate. Buy for her to eat it daily and monitor her mood. See if it improves.

dont think you marry for sex only. No sex with wife, but u get to fuck young beautiful girls outside somemore with frequent business travel to escape from family haha. Its a very good deal.:D

anyways, whats the daily rate to book a russian escort to bring overseas?

[cbkia222]

hi bro,

thank you so much for your kind words. Just sucks I can't get any appreciation and love at home.

the sex part i already resign to fate and SBF definitely has kept me happy :)

would be nice to be hugged and felt loved. haven had that at home for a long time.

for the Russian pussy, I had a 3 day 2 nights trip to phuket( meeting there)

paid for the air tix( cheap) and negotiate to 3.5k for the trip.( I included spa and facial treatments while in phuket, ) plus she had intentions to stay there longer.


The girl was educated, smart, tall, HOT, funny and we had fun fucking everywhere in our villa. we a good time talking to her, her caring for my body both emotionally and physically

we still keep in touch and am waiting for her next trip back to sg

anyone else can share similar situations?

[huayingxiong]

hi bro,

thank you so much for your kind words. Just sucks I can't get any appreciation and love at home.

the sex part i already resign to fate and SBF definitely has kept me happy :)

would be nice to be hugged and felt loved. haven had that at home for a long time.

for the Russian pussy, I had a 3 day 2 nights trip to phuket( meeting there)

paid for the air tix( cheap) and negotiate to 3.5k for the trip.( I included spa and facial treatments while in phuket, ) plus she had intentions to stay there longer.


The girl was educated, smart, tall, HOT, funny and we had fun fucking everywhere in our villa. we a good time talking to her, her caring for my body both emotionally and physically

we still keep in touch and am waiting for her next trip back to sg

anyone else can share similar situations?

Experience as in? 😄

What u are going thru, happens to many. Your prob is not unique.

I had read some where, endurance is the only thing to keep u going, to uphold your family. For the good of the family, for the nucleus etc etc.

Don't get me wrong. I for one, had this prob too and in fact it was exactly the opposite of further enduring, that had made me wakes up. Where are the appreciation, where are the respect when we think we had did so much for the family I believe, is what you are thinking beside the no sex thing.

In order to save your marriage and family, probably seek medical consultation or counselling may be the only way, provided if she is agreeable. We aren't able to stop their hormone changes that is leading to the current condition so the only way should be professional help.

As for sex, I believe u are quite clear u are asking for more than satisfaction to your lust. For me, I leave it to fate. What's bound to happen, will happen 😁

[cbkia222]

alright thanks :)

Given up trying to communicate with the wife.

she's ask for communication and when she hears something she doesnt like, she goes off.

she only wants to hear what she wants to hear.. so yeah..

went off on a doctor who told her she was ok ( thought she had some health issues, did blood test and all) , and it was a consultant.

bobian..

[KennyBee]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance
If I'm as rich as you.. probably I'll experience the same thing as you.

[fallen11]

alright thanks :)

Given up trying to communicate with the wife.

she's ask for communication and when she hears something she doesnt like, she goes off.

she only wants to hear what she wants to hear.. so yeah..

went off on a doctor who told her she was ok ( thought she had some health issues, did blood test and all) , and it was a consultant.

bobian..

what doctor did she see? recommend to go see a gynecologist instead. Tell gynecologist that suspect is hormone issue as per what u suspected.
there are also meds that can be taken to control hormonal imbalance issues.

This thing cannot cure but can still be managed and it is a normal & common problem. It is not really a health issue.

[LeManz]

Manage the hormonal changes / swings. There are some foods she can try to help manage that. Foods rich in magnesium, Vitamin D, etc. Banana, nuts, dark chocolate. Buy for her to eat it daily and monitor her mood. See if it improves.


+18 for pointing that out.

Also wanted to add to this, does your wife drink a lot? Does she exercise or hit the gym? Too much alcohol is bad in our later years, our bodies cannot handle it the same way we used to in our younger years. And even light regular exercise can make a huge difference to someone's mental state.

And what about her hobbies and personal interests? Eating healthy is important for the body. We must also keep our minds healthy. Reading, or any activity that engages the mind is important. Heck even playing boardgames with the kids is better than sitting down and watching TV all day long. Or maybe consider adopting a pet, it could be she is bored to death with the way things are and needs something different to keep her mentally stimulated.

[cbkia222]

what doctor did she see? recommend to go see a gynecologist instead. Tell gynecologist that suspect is hormone issue as per what u suspected.
there are also meds that can be taken to control hormonal imbalance issues.

This thing cannot cure but can still be managed and it is a normal & common problem. It is not really a health issue.

Hi Bro, Thanks

Her company doctor actually said it was some kind of Lupus ( auto immune) and then she got referred to a specialist ( consultant) that handles these kind of things. did a barrage of blood work, all came out clear. wife nearly ki siao when doctor told her " maybe i recommend you to talk to some one" and stormed out of the room and almost refused to pay for the consultation.

Right now, communication is really bad. but will figure this out.

Thank you bros here for the help . Really appreciate it

[cbkia222]

+18 for pointing that out.

Also wanted to add to this, does your wife drink a lot? Does she exercise or hit the gym? Too much alcohol is bad in our later years, our bodies cannot handle it the same way we used to in our younger years. And even light regular exercise can make a huge difference to someone's mental state.

And what about her hobbies and personal interests? Eating healthy is important for the body. We must also keep our minds healthy. Reading, or any activity that engages the mind is important. Heck even playing boardgames with the kids is better than sitting down and watching TV all day long. Or maybe consider adopting a pet, it could be she is bored to death with the way things are and needs something different to keep her mentally stimulated.

Wife doesnt drink ( doesnt like it) and occassional goes for yoga.

been advised about the excise stuff but she's always " tired" after work.

I was recommended hormome replacement therapy by some overseas friends but told its illegal in Singapore? anyone know?

Thanks all

[fallen11]

Wife doesnt drink ( doesnt like it) and occassional goes for yoga.

been advised about the excise stuff but she's always " tired" after work.

I was recommended hormome replacement therapy by some overseas friends but told its illegal in Singapore? anyone know?

Thanks all

HRT i think is allowed in sg.

https://www.rafflesmedicalgroup.com/services/specialist-centres/women/services/gynaecological-services/menopause-hormone-replacement-therapy/

[cbkia222]

HRT i think is allowed in sg.

https://www.rafflesmedicalgroup.com/services/specialist-centres/women/services/gynaecological-services/menopause-hormone-replacement-therapy/

Thanks bro.

now just have to figure out how to get her on this.

If anyone here, their spouses have gone on HRT, hope you guys can share too :)

Thanks!

[Uimerst]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

Nice story and hope that you will find happiness and all the best bro

[cbkia222]

Nice story and hope that you will find happiness and all the best bro

Thanks bro.

just one of those things... hope there are others who can share how they deal with this.

[Spymaster2]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

Hi bro,
Read your candid sharing. My wife is currently going through perimenopause and it’s not fun for me and my 2 kids I tell you. But at least my wife knows she is going thru that and not in denial. But even before this, the sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started. Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.
I can totally relate to your no love/appreciation situation. Had so many major arguments with her and things just cannot be patched up but going downhill. If not for my kids I would have divorced her already so that I can be happier living my own life.

[cbkia222]

Hi bro,
Read your candid sharing. My wife is currently going through perimenopause and it’s not fun for me and my 2 kids I tell you. But at least my wife knows she is going thru that and not in denial. But even before this, the sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started. Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.
I can totally relate to your no love/appreciation situation. Had so many major arguments with her and things just cannot be patched up but going downhill. If not for my kids I would have divorced her already so that I can be happier living my own life.

Hi Bro,

Thank you for sharing as well. Appreciate the support :)

Like you, if not for my kid, would have divorced liao .

but seeing my kids happy is top priority now, at the expense of my own ..

[fallen11]

Hi bro,
Read your candid sharing. My wife is currently going through perimenopause and it’s not fun for me and my 2 kids I tell you. But at least my wife knows she is going thru that and not in denial.

does your wife go thru any treatment? seen a specialist about this? following any diet to try and manage it? taking any meds for this? :confused:

if so, still very bad despite these being done (or any)?

[Nekofear]

My wife's aunty is in that stage of life too. Her mental load from my view is her young adult son, being a stay at home wife, and looking after her post-op husband.

She got BF and friends/relatives that comes over every weekend to hangout, to relieve her mental stress. Now she hired maid to look after the house, so I think a lot of weight have been lifted.

Hope your wife wants to follow you go on vacation. For at home, hope your wife open minded, can try sleep naked with you first to calm her down.

[Spymaster2]

does your wife go thru any treatment? seen a specialist about this? following any diet to try and manage it? taking any meds for this? :confused:

if so, still very bad despite these being done (or any)?

She saw her gynae and was prescribed hormonal medication. But she didn’t go back for her follow-up visit because she said the medication is too expensive and cannot be sustained over the long term. She did her own research to see how she can manage it herself instead. It’s not easy because there’s a list of symptoms that are related to it but you’re never sure if it’s 100% related.

[Spymaster2]

Hi Bro,

Thank you for sharing as well. Appreciate the support :)

Like you, if not for my kid, would have divorced liao .

but seeing my kids happy is top priority now, at the expense of my own ..

You’re welcome bro. :)
Do you drink? Perhaps we can chat more over some wine/whisky and share our misery and the good sbf stuff Lol

[LooksLikeJesus]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

Never married here. But been in long term relationship before.

With all the money in the world and this woman is not happy? No wonder husbands in general have shorter lifespan their wives. Does she throws tantrum often like this before you two are married? This will only get worse as she ages. Aging just reveals who we truly are as we get comfortable under our own skin.

If she doesn't want any professional medical help/advice and storms out the clinic like a child? Looks like a classic case of probable personality disorders. Maybe, histrionic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.

[exbiker]

How about you yourself go for counselling bro? Obviously the problem isn’t with you but you are bearing the brunt of it.

Counselling would help you cope with the situation at home?

Had a close fwb with whom we had mutual feelings for but she decided to ghost me and go back to her emotionally abusing and cheating husband. This happened all of a sudden so it left me feeling devastated. After going to counselling and hearing from another angle, it helped to manage better as there are things I didn’t notice from my pov. Because there are really gems out there who love and respects and treats their husband like royalty, and despite the shit and disrespect the husband throws at her, at the end of the day she still love him unconditionally.

Sorry I went off topic a little there but it’s sth that’s been bugging me. And as irrational it may sound to me at first, counselling helped me see some angles on why she did it but importantly, taking care of ourselves is what we can control. Can’t control those who decide to mistreat us.

[cbkia222]

You’re welcome bro. :)
Do you drink? Perhaps we can chat more over some wine/whisky and share our misery and the good sbf stuff Lol

hi Bro!

THank you for the invitation! Not an alcohol guy ( unless there's pussy afterwards, haha)

drop me a PM :)

We can just share our problems and know that we are among friends in this issue :)

haha..

[cbkia222]

How about you yourself go for counselling bro? Obviously the problem isn’t with you but you are bearing the brunt of it.

Counselling would help you cope with the situation at home?

Had a close fwb with whom we had mutual feelings for but she decided to ghost me and go back to her emotionally abusing and cheating husband. This happened all of a sudden so it left me feeling devastated. After going to counselling and hearing from another angle, it helped to manage better as there are things I didn’t notice from my pov. Because there are really gems out there who love and respects and treats their husband like royalty, and despite the shit and disrespect the husband throws at her, at the end of the day she still love him unconditionally.

Sorry I went off topic a little there but it’s sth that’s been bugging me. And as irrational it may sound to me at first, counselling helped me see some angles on why she did it but importantly, taking care of ourselves is what we can control. Can’t control those who decide to mistreat us.

Hi Bro! Thank you so much :)

for myself, i actually spoke to professionals ( i have friends in the marriage counselling line of work).

basically, before the solution was the same:
1) Try to be patient
2) try to be understanding
3) Try to help her cope with her feelings.

This was before i knew about the perimenopause issue.

Then after knowing about it, then they were the same:

1) Ask her to seek medical attention
2) Help her overcome this issue etc etc.

Fuck, the above are really text book examples and easiy said then done.

All solutions revolving around the men having to bend down, mentally and physically to cope with the women's emotions and all.

At this point in time, no possible for me cos then my health will go down ( my job is stressful as it is juggling travelling and demanding customers), my home affairs ( my domestics operations are also handled by me)
but having to deal with " feelings and emotions" and that those feelings and emotions are always varying according to situation. Apologies for the rankt.

Bro , also for your " gf went back to abusive spouse". This issue i researched early on in life ( i wasnt always a lady's man and often got the " you're too good to me")

Women find it a challenge to change a " bad boy" and find " excitment" in bad boys. This is a 10000% fact. If they are able to turn a bag boy into a good boy, it is a major mental achievement for them.

Now, what about good men ? Good men, are just " boring" to them. Good men, settle all their issues for them, pamper them and always try to find ways to make them happy.

But to these " modern" women, this is meaningless to them and they will always crave the " i can change a bad boy" challenge.

From my observations,

a) Traditional women ( basically those not spoilt by society, those whom are brought up to be good wifes/ mothers/ etc), those are pretty rare these days and these women will slave for their husbands

b) Modern women, must prove themselves in whatever they do ( the more educated they are, they more they must prove). As such, bad boys are the ultimate challenge to them.

So far, from my experience, one of the types of women who will cherish a good man are ex-esorts/ FL. They have sucked so much dick that they know the differencee between a man who will take care of them and a bad man.

BUt then FLs come with another bunch of occupational mental issues.

Wife and kids are out of town for vacation, took the opportunity to fly down one of my Russia chicks from phuket to spend time with me.

Rain is really messing things up..

Thank you guys are sharing here and letting me know i'm not alone in this mess.

[exbiker]

Can’t say I can offer much help bro. As it is you’re working full time plus handling the kids since she’s incapable of handling her personal health issues. Worse thing is she can’t even acknowledge it seems..? That’s the first step to turn things around I guess.

About my gf, so you’re saying that she find it a challenge to change her husband around.? Hmm interesting thought.. and in the process give up so much of herself so much so that she gave up a relationship where she is cherished..?

Hmmm.. worth a ponder. Btw she’s the traditional type with good upbringing in good family. Your word is correct, it does seems like she’s slaving for her husband..

Rain messing things up huh, find a hotel and fuck at the open window then 😊 that’s what gf and I used to do.. but sadly. Those are days long gone..

[huayingxiong]

Hi bro,
Read your candid sharing. My wife is currently going through perimenopause and it’s not fun for me and my 2 kids I tell you. But at least my wife knows she is going thru that and not in denial. But even before this, the sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started. Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.
I can totally relate to your no love/appreciation situation. Had so many major arguments with her and things just cannot be patched up but going downhill. If not for my kids I would have divorced her already so that I can be happier living my own life.

👍

Yes. Ought to think for ownself and path ahead

[Khiampak]

Hi Bro! Thank you so much :)

for myself, i actually spoke to professionals ( i have friends in the marriage counselling line of work).

basically, before the solution was the same:
1) Try to be patient
2) try to be understanding
3) Try to help her cope with her feelings.

This was before i knew about the perimenopause issue.

Then after knowing about it, then they were the same:

1) Ask her to seek medical attention
2) Help her overcome this issue etc etc.

Fuck, the above are really text book examples and easiy said then done.

All solutions revolving around the men having to bend down, mentally and physically to cope with the women's emotions and all.

At this point in time, no possible for me cos then my health will go down ( my job is stressful as it is juggling travelling and demanding customers), my home affairs ( my domestics operations are also handled by me)
but having to deal with " feelings and emotions" and that those feelings and emotions are always varying according to situation. Apologies for the rankt.

Bro , also for your " gf went back to abusive spouse". This issue i researched early on in life ( i wasnt always a lady's man and often got the " you're too good to me")

Women find it a challenge to change a " bad boy" and find " excitment" in bad boys. This is a 10000% fact. If they are able to turn a bag boy into a good boy, it is a major mental achievement for them.

Now, what about good men ? Good men, are just " boring" to them. Good men, settle all their issues for them, pamper them and always try to find ways to make them happy.

But to these " modern" women, this is meaningless to them and they will always crave the " i can change a bad boy" challenge.

From my observations,

a) Traditional women ( basically those not spoilt by society, those whom are brought up to be good wifes/ mothers/ etc), those are pretty rare these days and these women will slave for their husbands

b) Modern women, must prove themselves in whatever they do ( the more educated they are, they more they must prove). As such, bad boys are the ultimate challenge to them.

So far, from my experience, one of the types of women who will cherish a good man are ex-esorts/ FL. They have sucked so much dick that they know the differencee between a man who will take care of them and a bad man.

BUt then FLs come with another bunch of occupational mental issues.

Wife and kids are out of town for vacation, took the opportunity to fly down one of my Russia chicks from phuket to spend time with me.

Rain is really messing things up..

Thank you guys are sharing here and letting me know i'm not alone in this mess.

You were stupid enough to listen to a bunch of Jiak Liao Bees asking you to go for counselling. HAHAHA.

Just dump your wife into the bin and carry on with your life. HAHAHA.
Your wife doesn't care about you. She only wants to make things hard for you and enjoys your suffering. HAHAHA.

You are the frog and Your wife is the scorpion like the video below. HAHAHA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edq1S1UfVps&ab_channel=InspireWithin

[cbkia222]

You were stupid enough to listen to a bunch of Jiak Liao Bees asking you to go for counselling. HAHAHA.

Just dump your wife into the bin and carry on with your life. HAHAHA.
Your wife doesn't care about you. She only wants to make things hard for you and enjoys your suffering. HAHAHA.

You are the frog and Your wife is the scorpion like the video below. HAHAHA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edq1S1UfVps&ab_channel=InspireWithin

Brutal truth.. ohh well

[cbkia222]

👍

Yes. Ought to think for ownself and path ahead

Definitely.. my path and my kids..

anyway, just dropped my russian chick off at the airport.. had a fun 3 days 3 nights with her. Reasonable cost and i also enjoyed myself.

Felt like i was sucking her life force from that young shaved pussy! haha..

Mind feels much better now, balls much emptier, wallet also emptier but definitely worth it!

[exbiker]

Definitely.. my path and my kids..

anyway, just dropped my russian chick off at the airport.. had a fun 3 days 3 nights with her. Reasonable cost and i also enjoyed myself.

Felt like i was sucking her life force from that young shaved pussy! haha..

Mind feels much better now, balls much emptier, wallet also emptier but definitely worth it!

Swee. Enjoying yourself is the most important!

[cbkia222]

Swee. Enjoying yourself is the most important!

Just got word one of my fav Russian Fls might be coming back to SG, hope to catch her b4 i fly off for work!! hahahaa..

great news to end the week!

Here's another funny fact: I just saw one of the FLs in dome 3 is a FL i had in HK, tried to get her in phuket but she backed out last minute ( wanted more money after agreeing to a fix amt).

might go visit and surprise her,

[cbkia222]

Just an update:

So wife + kids out of town for their own holiday.

I flew in my Russian chick from Phuket..

4 days 3 nights in SG.

Air tix + hotel : $1k-ish

eating + sight seeing : $800?

pocket money + small gift ( dyson hair thingy).: $1.6k

total spent around $3k+

was super tired when she left ( balls empty) ,

today after waking up, mentally fully recharged for work and everything, told off one of my customers ( this fucker bargain , payment like shit, kaopeh why no stock ) ,

if want to kaopeh, then F--K off cos i would rather spend time and effort on customers who appreciate our efforts.

somehow, ( other than the sex part), just having a chick appreciate you and have fun with you ( other than bed), really helps your mental health!

and i must say, better than those fucking local sugar babies who demand for more and give less!

[huayingxiong]

Definitely.. my path and my kids..

anyway, just dropped my russian chick off at the airport.. had a fun 3 days 3 nights with her. Reasonable cost and i also enjoyed myself.

Felt like i was sucking her life force from that young shaved pussy! haha..

Mind feels much better now, balls much emptier, wallet also emptier but definitely worth it!

Guess you are much younger than me.

Further on, you will realise is you yourself that you should concern more as the children will grow, and soon they will be behaving out of your expectation.

Enjoy the moment while you can.

Cheers

[cbkia222]

Guess you are much younger than me.

Further on, you will realise is you yourself that you should concern more as the children will grow, and soon they will be behaving out of your expectation.

Enjoy the moment while you can.

Cheers

I realised that there is no point dwelling on the fact that my wife is always pissed off with me ( at everything). instead now, i focus on myself, being positive and raising my kids in a happy environment .

If my mental health goes down , its my kids that will suffer. just another way at looking at it :)

Thank you for your wise words :) Apprecirate them!

[Pictionary]

Just an update:

So wife + kids out of town for their own holiday.

I flew in my Russian chick from Phuket..

4 days 3 nights in SG.

Air tix + hotel : $1k-ish

eating + sight seeing : $800?

pocket money + small gift ( dyson hair thingy).: $1.6k

total spent around $3k+

was super tired when she left ( balls empty) ,

today after waking up, mentally fully recharged for work and everything, told off one of my customers ( this fucker bargain , payment like shit, kaopeh why no stock ) ,

if want to kaopeh, then F--K off cos i would rather spend time and effort on customers who appreciate our efforts.

somehow, ( other than the sex part), just having a chick appreciate you and have fun with you ( other than bed), really helps your mental health!

and i must say, better than those fucking local sugar babies who demand for more and give less!
No need to write the customer portion. Most of customers want to have cheap and good things. They have no budget and would rather go johor to buy. Put yourself in customer shoes, would you want to buy exp goods or not?

Regarding about wife and children portion, you want to do whatever up to you. Just dun overdo and get caught.

It doesn't make much sense for me to continue writing english to you. I am now understudying other languages. Too much time is wasted on reading and writing unnecessary languages. Either I redirect you to peanadood or fallen11 or you seek attention from relevant govt. bodies instead. Ask them more questions, dun reply me.

[huayingxiong]

Relax la bro. TS had talk abt his mental instability. He probably vent out thru this channel as there is no other channel for him at the moment.
I have spoken to some women, why i did not speak to men and chose to communicate with women. My ans is, men has ego. And many a time, is difficult to talk to our own kind with problem like this.
So, just enjoy our life, with or without sex ��

[cbkia222]

Relax la bro. TS had talk abt his mental instability. He probably vent out thru this channel as there is no other channel for him at the moment.
I have spoken to some women, why i did not speak to men and chose to communicate with women. My ans is, men has ego. And many a time, is difficult to talk to our own kind with problem like this.
So, just enjoy our life, with or without sex ��

Thanks bro :)

Appreciate the reply!

[dongdongchiang]

Hey bro! I hope you are coping well man.

Just curious right now, how much do you love your wife, and how much would you want to help her?

[cbkia222]

Hey bro! I hope you are coping well man.

Just curious right now, how much do you love your wife, and how much would you want to help her?

Hi Bro,

Thanks man :) Coping better ( had some bros PM me with similar issues, so its like a little support group).

for my wife, yes i still love her and she is the mother of my children.

but in recent years ( pre covid and during covid), i went through a lot ( mentally) as my work suffered ( pre-covid i lost my job and was jobless for a while, was phv/ delivery while looking for a new job, didnt tell my wife, ), got my current job, travelled a bit , then kenna covid ( as you know , cannot travel = no money)

I was doing a shit load of illegal things ( telegram hitch , deliveries) just to make ends meet then

wife had troubles coping with wfh. i also had to help my old parents transition to the digital age suddenly ( u imagine la, dealing with old people). plus my kids were very young then.

i came out of covid pretty mentally messed up ( fat, stressed, all health problems) and no appreciation. But as a man/ husband/ father/ son, it is what it is and i got through it ( thank goodness for SBF)

Right now, after reading up about this perimenopause thingy, it will take a LOT of mental energy for her to admit these issues.

I am able to bring her through this, but i am not ( at this stage) , mentally strong to take anymore emotional abuse as i'm the dam pillar in the family ( children/ home/ parents). If my mind goes down, the whole family goes down as well

I've been changing my life style ( less fatty food, more exercise) to improve my health, and now improving my mental health, for my children.

for my wife, right now, all i can do is ensure she is comfortable at home physically ( no chores, no stress as a wife, ) and her main job now is her day job and her job as a mother ( children's studies), but i'm also part of my children's studies as well.

I'm not thinking so far ahead, so just enjoying myself now in SBF :) haha

[Wins88]

Just came across this thread.
I just want to share my experience with Perimenopause wife as my wife has been going thru it. We enjoyed a healthy sex life until this Perimenopause thing set in. Her constant irritation with me, always tired, moodiness coupled with job stress made my life a constant "mine field" exploration. However, due to our hot n heavy sex life before this - I began buying sex toys and whenever we get the odd chance of having sex - I used them during sex to add a dimension to our play to bring her to happy climax each and every time we had sex. Every thing I could think of such as watching porn, talking dirty etc was thrown in for good measure to ensure she got comfy with the idea of having more frequent sex. Everytime we have sex I ensured she cums and cums hard. It worked! She became more cheerful - especially a day or 2 after a night of good sex, Happier, more receptive to my advances. And even now we are thinking of going swinging but we r both old so I doubt anyone would want us hahahaha!

[Zetyalpha]

Just an update:

So wife + kids out of town for their own holiday.

I flew in my Russian chick from Phuket..

4 days 3 nights in SG.

Air tix + hotel : $1k-ish

eating + sight seeing : $800?

pocket money + small gift ( dyson hair thingy).: $1.6k

total spent around $3k+

was super tired when she left ( balls empty) ,

today after waking up, mentally fully recharged for work and everything, told off one of my customers ( this fucker bargain , payment like shit, kaopeh why no stock ) ,

if want to kaopeh, then F--K off cos i would rather spend time and effort on customers who appreciate our efforts.

somehow, ( other than the sex part), just having a chick appreciate you and have fun with you ( other than bed), really helps your mental health!

and i must say, better than those fucking local sugar babies who demand for more and give less!

Somehow agree with you in regard of local sugar babies. But more like regular women. I'm ok with a depreciating asset. But alot of them are soul sucking vampires giving their bfs and husbands a lot of headaches. As I age the more I see such scenarios played out like this in regard to men around me.

Usual theme, constant nagging, some cases got domestic violence, tantrum throwing, teaching their children wrong values.

Congrats having a great companion. It really takes the edge off things.

[huayingxiong]

[QUOTE=cbkia222;24242950]Hi Bro,

Thanks man :) Coping better ( had some bros PM me with similar issues, so its like a little support group).

for my wife, yes i still love her and she is the mother of my children.

Hi Bro,

Glad that you are adopting well.

Can see u still have feeling for your wife and trying hard to maintain the family nucleus.

My only advice is, endurance is the way to go when women starts aging. This is a problem face by all men, all family. Another thing will be communication. If this is lacking or 1 way traffic, then it will be very very hard to salvage.

For me, I adopted the endurance part, but my thoughts are no more on her and the family. She had push me to the limit during Covid days. I even ask myself is it a shameful thing to seek help for mental abuse as a man, as during those WFH days, reports always portray women as the weaker sex to being abuse.

Then I started to think, there are many couples who live under the same roof, yet is just name remains as couple, heart already gone.

Divorce is a hassle for me as I have a special need son, that live like a king. I am not going to disrupt his life so maintain current status quo is the way I think to go. Don get me wrong, I still take care of the ‘family’ as we are single income for 30 years. I have also thought of moving out to stay alone however, any dollar spend today will be a dollar less I can give to my son. And another endurance journey.

Don ask me if I am giving u the advice, why I did not try to save mine. Can only say I believe in fate ba. Maybe mine is over. I am not going to waste time doing things I deem as hopeless 😞

Is a great effort on your part to try to save the marriage. Hope all goes well for u.

[cbkia222]

Just came across this thread.
I just want to share my experience with Perimenopause wife as my wife has been going thru it. We enjoyed a healthy sex life until this Perimenopause thing set in. Her constant irritation with me, always tired, moodiness coupled with job stress made my life a constant "mine field" exploration. However, due to our hot n heavy sex life before this - I began buying sex toys and whenever we get the odd chance of having sex - I used them during sex to add a dimension to our play to bring her to happy climax each and every time we had sex. Every thing I could think of such as watching porn, talking dirty etc was thrown in for good measure to ensure she got comfy with the idea of having more frequent sex. Everytime we have sex I ensured she cums and cums hard. It worked! She became more cheerful - especially a day or 2 after a night of good sex, Happier, more receptive to my advances. And even now we are thinking of going swinging but we r both old so I doubt anyone would want us hahahaha!


Hi Bro! you're very lucky!

my wife and i used to have hot sex until the children arrived! after that would be lucky to get a hug or a cuddle!

but i wish you more happy sexxessful years ahead with your wife!!!

sex definitely helps with the hormonal balance in women ( there's a ton of benefits of having regular sex for women). but whether they wanna have sex is another thing :)

thanks for sharing bro and hope you and your wife find more fun things to do to keep things exciting!

[cbkia222]

Somehow agree with you in regard of local sugar babies. But more like regular women. I'm ok with a depreciating asset. But alot of them are soul sucking vampires giving their bfs and husbands a lot of headaches. As I age the more I see such scenarios played out like this in regard to men around me.

Usual theme, constant nagging, some cases got domestic violence, tantrum throwing, teaching their children wrong values.

Congrats having a great companion. It really takes the edge off things.

hi bro!

you hit the nail on the head! I've been analysing the situation a lot and what you said its true! not about " depreciating asset", but literally sucking the life force out of you mentally and emotionally!

I am ok with giving life force " qi" through my dick, but not my dam soul or mental health!

what makes things worse ( i feel) now is that women now think they are as strong or if not better than men!

They use it to their advantage when necessary and revert back to the " i'm a women".

When we call them out for being what they truly are ( fucking life force vampires), then all the " women are weak and fragile, we men are pig" shit comes out.

i'm not a woman hater ( as crazy as it sounds, i get pure pleasure from pampering women both physically and mentally), but their constantly " changing" mindset is something i still cant solve.

Biggest joke, had a stupid ex gf, fucking hot sex ( more than 10 yrs ago), allowed me raw CIP ( my first cream pie ever), when drunk would literally try to rape me ( happened a few times and was fun), but total psycho bitch and came till a point i had ED from the stress she was putting me in. haha

broke up, one day met up, fucked a few times, tried to get back, said it was fuck for fun, and realised she was actually attached when she came to fuck me, hahaha..

women. cant stand them at times, cant live without them!

Bro again, thanks for your sharing!

[cbkia222]

[QUOTE=cbkia222;24242950]Hi Bro,

Thanks man :) Coping better ( had some bros PM me with similar issues, so its like a little support group).

for my wife, yes i still love her and she is the mother of my children.

Hi Bro,

Glad that you are adopting well.

Can see u still have feeling for your wife and trying hard to maintain the family nucleus.

My only advice is, endurance is the way to go when women starts aging. This is a problem face by all men, all family. Another thing will be communication. If this is lacking or 1 way traffic, then it will be very very hard to salvage.

For me, I adopted the endurance part, but my thoughts are no more on her and the family. She had push me to the limit during Covid days. I even ask myself is it a shameful thing to seek help for mental abuse as a man, as during those WFH days, reports always portray women as the weaker sex to being abuse.

Then I started to think, there are many couples who live under the same roof, yet is just name remains as couple, heart already gone.

Divorce is a hassle for me as I have a special need son, that live like a king. I am not going to disrupt his life so maintain current status quo is the way I think to go. Don get me wrong, I still take care of the ‘family’ as we are single income for 30 years. I have also thought of moving out to stay alone however, any dollar spend today will be a dollar less I can give to my son. And another endurance journey.

Don ask me if I am giving u the advice, why I did not try to save mine. Can only say I believe in fate ba. Maybe mine is over. I am not going to waste time doing things I deem as hopeless 😞

Is a great effort on your part to try to save the marriage. Hope all goes well for u.

Hi Bro, you are not alone.

i too believe that we men are literal victim of mental abuse by these women.

constantly being told what we are doing is wrong ( much to their whim and fancy and when we do it back to them, we are the abusive ones)

for me personally, Covid killed me mentally ( work, parents, wife, kid) and i was the pillar holding things up at home. went to IMH to ask for help and the doctor told him i'm not nuts to think i'm nuts.

For the endurance aspect, right now, what i have learnt is self preservation for my mental health. I have proven over and over again, my wife's role is not necessary at home other than being a mother. I came from operations and now in sales, i know how to plan everything properly.

So as long as my kid has the best, my parents are taken care of ( i have a useless older brother who gives my parents more drama).

As for you bro, you are brave and i admire respect you for giving the good life to your child :)

Never would i have expected to find some comfort and emotional support in this forum :)

Feels good to type some of this out and for bros who have sent me PMs, thank you so much for sharing :)

i hope more brothers share here as well. I find myself coming to this thead more often than the other FL threads . hahaha

[Khiampak]

I am not going to waste time doing things I deem as hopeless 😞

I LOVE YOUR THIS FACE. HAHAHA.
I AM GOING TO KEEP IT AS A SOUVENIR. HAHAHA.

[dodgekenji]

Bro I am going through the stage you going through. Been sexless for months and I have not been talking to her and she is not talking to me too. I just feel like this is going to an end road





Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

[dodgekenji]

We talked about it b4 and then agreed to once a week then once every 2 weeks and then kept giving excuses! She said she does not want so I asked if she does it herself. She said yes sometimes. I was like……wtf. Of course we married because we loved each other, now what do you think.

I don’t believed it’s her body issue just feeling that she no longer. Anyway it quite sian that she is not talking to me and I don’t feel like talking to her also. She watch her phone and I watch mine.

Maybe someone can teach me how to get the resentful feeling away. I have no one to talk to.





QUOTE=fallen11;24213389]I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. - slowly sit down with her, show her the issue. talk calmly, dont scare her. Let her know it’s a normal thing and she's not crazy or what. Just need to accept it and manage it. Else everyone around her will be the ones suffering. better yet, bring her to consult a specialist on such women issues (not a mental health doctor! more like a gynecologist).

Manage the hormonal changes / swings. There are some foods she can try to help manage that. Foods rich in magnesium, Vitamin D, etc. Banana, nuts, dark chocolate. Buy for her to eat it daily and monitor her mood. See if it improves.

dont think you marry for sex only. No sex with wife, but u get to fuck young beautiful girls outside somemore with frequent business travel to escape from family haha. Its a very good deal.:D

anyways, whats the daily rate to book a russian escort to bring overseas?[/QUOTE]

[dodgekenji]

How do you endure. Don’t you feel resentful against her. We are not even hugging and touching each other or holding hands. I am trying to get through this stage of being revengeful







Hi bro,



Read your candid sharing. My wife is currently going through perimenopause and it’s not fun for me and my 2 kids I tell you. But at least my wife knows she is going thru that and not in denial. But even before this, the sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started. Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.
I can totally relate to your no love/appreciation situation. Had so many major arguments with her and things just cannot be patched up but going downhill. If not for my kids I would have divorced her already so that I can be happier living my own life.

[dodgekenji]

You’re welcome bro. :)
Do you drink? Perhaps we can chat more over some wine/whisky and share our misery and the good sbf stuff Lol

Good to know there is an invite. Open to others

[Khiampak]

How do you endure. Don’t you feel resentful against her. We are not even hugging and touching each other or holding hands. I am trying to get through this stage of being revengeful

Grown-ups acting like kids in school.
You don't touch me, I don't touch you.
You don't smell my dick, I don't smell your pussy that kind of shit. HAHAHA.

[cbkia222]

hi Bro,

you're not alone in this .. other bros also in the same situation.

Right now, for majority of us, due to the children, so we just have to endure.

But my opinion is, try not to get sucked into the " black hole" of negativity.

This one can really kill you ( emotionally/ mentally)

your own well being as priority and do what it takes to keep yourself happy so that you can ( if u have kids) be there for your children.

As for your wife, people have said try communication,

with women, communication is only a 1 way for them. they want people to listen to them but when they have to listen, all hell breaks loose. So no point.

Its better to find something to fill your emotional well being :)

Anyway, we're just a PM a way if u wish to share more. but you are definitely not alone in this matter



QUOTE=fallen11;24213389]I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. - slowly sit down with her, show her the issue. talk calmly, dont scare her. Let her know it’s a normal thing and she's not crazy or what. Just need to accept it and manage it. Else everyone around her will be the ones suffering. better yet, bring her to consult a specialist on such women issues (not a mental health doctor! more like a gynecologist).

Manage the hormonal changes / swings. There are some foods she can try to help manage that. Foods rich in magnesium, Vitamin D, etc. Banana, nuts, dark chocolate. Buy for her to eat it daily and monitor her mood. See if it improves.

dont think you marry for sex only. No sex with wife, but u get to fuck young beautiful girls outside somemore with frequent business travel to escape from family haha. Its a very good deal.:D

anyways, whats the daily rate to book a russian escort to bring overseas?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[Zetyalpha]

hi bro!

you hit the nail on the head! I've been analysing the situation a lot and what you said its true! not about " depreciating asset", but literally sucking the life force out of you mentally and emotionally!

I am ok with giving life force " qi" through my dick, but not my dam soul or mental health!

what makes things worse ( i feel) now is that women now think they are as strong or if not better than men!

They use it to their advantage when necessary and revert back to the " i'm a women".

When we call them out for being what they truly are ( fucking life force vampires), then all the " women are weak and fragile, we men are pig" shit comes out.

i'm not a woman hater ( as crazy as it sounds, i get pure pleasure from pampering women both physically and mentally), but their constantly " changing" mindset is something i still cant solve.

Biggest joke, had a stupid ex gf, fucking hot sex ( more than 10 yrs ago), allowed me raw CIP ( my first cream pie ever), when drunk would literally try to rape me ( happened a few times and was fun), but total psycho bitch and came till a point i had ED from the stress she was putting me in. haha

broke up, one day met up, fucked a few times, tried to get back, said it was fuck for fun, and realised she was actually attached when she came to fuck me, hahaha..

women. cant stand them at times, cant live without them!

Bro again, thanks for your sharing!

You're welcome.

Just some quick suggestions:

They use it to their advantage when necessary and revert back to the " i'm a women".

= That's why they cannot be taken seriously.

all the " women are weak and fragile, we men are pig" shit comes out.

= ignore, this is classic female manipulation.

stupid ex gf, fucking hot sex ( more than 10 yrs ago), allowed me raw CIP ( my first cream pie ever), when drunk would literally try to rape me ( happened a few times and was fun), but total psycho bitch

= crazy / aggressive women tend to give the best sex. I totally agree. But seriously cannot commit to them for marriage. That's for sure. hahaha

[Pictionary]

I was doing a shit load of illegal things ( telegram hitch , deliveries) just to make ends meet then

wife had troubles coping with wfh. i also had to help my old parents transition to the digital age suddenly ( u imagine la, dealing with old people). plus my kids were very young then.

i came out of covid pretty mentally messed up ( fat, stressed, all health problems) and no appreciation. But as a man/ husband/ father/ son, it is what it is and i got through it ( thank goodness for SBF)

Right now, after reading up about this perimenopause thingy, it will take a LOT of mental energy for her to admit these issues.

I am able to bring her through this, but i am not ( at this stage) , mentally strong to take anymore emotional abuse as i'm the dam pillar in the family ( children/ home/ parents). If my mind goes down, the whole family goes down as well

I've been changing my life style ( less fatty food, more exercise) to improve my health, and now improving my mental health, for my children.

for my wife, right now, all i can do is ensure she is comfortable at home physically ( no chores, no stress as a wife, ) and her main job now is her day job and her job as a mother ( children's studies), but i'm also part of my children's studies as well.

I'm not thinking so far ahead, so just enjoying myself now in SBF :) haha
Sar cheng a li, jin zhui a li boh submit! So difficult to suddenly transition from other dialect to the normal dialect. As usual, wasting time for me, however may be useful for you.

For love and marriage matters, i will without hestitation shall redirect you to peanadood, fallen11 and other smart aleck jesus one timer for many Q&A. You are not labelled as insanely crazy. However, how other naysayers shall label you in whatever sense is beyond my control. I dun want to advice much further bec ppl will anyhow scold me, i might as well mind myself better. As again, you seek huayingxiong for your much needed advice.

As for transitioning old parents to digital age so as to allow them to have less reliance, i did communicate in less hassle way in mixture of dialects and melayu except eng/cinna. So the intense frustation to guide them to use anything digital in a user-friendly way is nothing new to me. You have not spelled out whether your father/mother is from which dialect group! As for children, please try to be an example to communicate not in broken eng/cinna. Tough or what i do not know and i do not know where is your standard.

As for your wife, what languages she can or cannot speak, i do not know. Ask her to use skillsfuture, join whatever course she likes during weekend as you will step in as a househusband to relief her chores.

[dodgekenji]

Grown-ups acting like kids in school.
You don't touch me, I don't touch you.
You don't smell my dick, I don't smell your pussy that kind of shit. HAHAHA.
Most times adults are just like kids when dealing with emotion especially sometimes you wanted so bad but not given. That’s why I am figuring out how to deal with my own thinking too. Hope eventually it will be alright, I hope so

[huayingxiong]

[QUOTE=dodgekenji;24246440]We talked about it b4 and then agreed


HI bro,

Let's face the reality. Women is another breed from us men. With age and time, things get worse.

Ask yourself, is it abt sex only or are u also looking at more between u and your wife.

Having had to face this prob in recent time, I get to know many women thru the apps. Divorce was a taboo before however, I realise it is so common nowadays after meeting so many of them. One of the grunt that I get to know from women is, they blame us the men from ignoring them. Like u said, if they don want to even talk to us, how to show them that we care. Conclusion, they wanted us to be understanding, understand their need as and when, and give console when they need one, siam far far when they are not in the mood 🤣

Yes, key to the relationship is communication and we are suppose to endure. So it all depends on how u value your marriage.

For me, I differentiate between lust (sex) and making love. I have fail to have a love making session for many many years liao. So I go to WL at times to satisfy my lust and devote my energy to sports when I need to release my extra energy. For the family, since I had not been appreciated, I can't do much and just let it be.

If u are trying to save the marriage, talk to her. Together seek professional help. U cannot and will not be able to resolve this by yourself. U need her cooperation to over come it. Of course, this is provided your partner is able to accept it. Mine, is stubborn like a bull, as I understand all the prob but she wouldn't admit, less on seeking abt help.

Wish u luck

[dodgekenji]

Hi bro, I am also doing some sport to get some energy and attention off from my sexless marriage. I do not know about women, but I felt that men need to make love so that they feel wanted or loved by women. When wife does not even want you to touch her then that means she is no longer interested in you. Let alone communicating to you. Maybe she looked down on me or simply feel that no need to do so much already since has a family.

I brought it up once that maybe we should get some helps. She told me off dont be silly and waste money and waste energy keep thinking about sex and relationship. After that time, I did not bring up.

Now, we seldom talk and communicate, she is always watching her phone and I just do the same too. I sleep on floor and child sleep on the bed with her. There was once I sept on the bed, but she kept using her phone and i find it akward that I pretend to be asleep.

Like I said, no one I can talk to except putting words here in the forum.

I also do not want how to make myself not to think so much where our marriage is going to end up.






[QUOTE=dodgekenji;24246440]We talked about it b4 and then agreed


HI bro,

Let's face the reality. Women is another breed from us men. With age and time, things get worse.

Ask yourself, is it abt sex only or are u also looking at more between u and your wife.

Having had to face this prob in recent time, I get to know many women thru the apps. Divorce was a taboo before however, I realise it is so common nowadays after meeting so many of them. One of the grunt that I get to know from women is, they blame us the men from ignoring them. Like u said, if they don want to even talk to us, how to show them that we care. Conclusion, they wanted us to be understanding, understand their need as and when, and give console when they need one, siam far far when they are not in the mood 🤣

Yes, key to the relationship is communication and we are suppose to endure. So it all depends on how u value your marriage.

For me, I differentiate between lust (sex) and making love. I have fail to have a love making session for many many years liao. So I go to WL at times to satisfy my lust and devote my energy to sports when I need to release my extra energy. For the family, since I had not been appreciated, I can't do much and just let it be.

If u are trying to save the marriage, talk to her. Together seek professional help. U cannot and will not be able to resolve this by yourself. U need her cooperation to over come it. Of course, this is provided your partner is able to accept it. Mine, is stubborn like a bull, as I understand all the prob but she wouldn't admit, less on seeking abt help.

Wish u luck

[cbkia222]

You're welcome.

Just some quick suggestions:

They use it to their advantage when necessary and revert back to the " i'm a women".

= That's why they cannot be taken seriously.

all the " women are weak and fragile, we men are pig" shit comes out.

= ignore, this is classic female manipulation.

stupid ex gf, fucking hot sex ( more than 10 yrs ago), allowed me raw CIP ( my first cream pie ever), when drunk would literally try to rape me ( happened a few times and was fun), but total psycho bitch

= crazy / aggressive women tend to give the best sex. I totally agree. But seriously cannot commit to them for marriage. That's for sure. hahaha

exactly bro :)

Anyway, it is what it is!

we SBF bros are here for support!

[cbkia222]

Hi bro, I am also doing some sport to get some energy and attention off from my sexless marriage. I do not know about women, but I felt that men need to make love so that they feel wanted or loved by women. When wife does not even want you to touch her then that means she is no longer interested in you. Let alone communicating to you. Maybe she looked down on me or simply feel that no need to do so much already since has a family.

I brought it up once that maybe we should get some helps. She told me off dont be silly and waste money and waste energy keep thinking about sex and relationship. After that time, I did not bring up.

Now, we seldom talk and communicate, she is always watching her phone and I just do the same too. I sleep on floor and child sleep on the bed with her. There was once I sept on the bed, but she kept using her phone and i find it akward that I pretend to be asleep.

Like I said, no one I can talk to except putting words here in the forum.

I also do not want how to make myself not to think so much where our marriage is going to end up.






[QUOTE=huayingxiong;24249541]

Hi Bro, know that you are not alone here .

I dont even get a hug or a pat on the back from my wife . used to it.

as for sex, SBF has always been there for me, so even when i dont get it from my wife , its something that i can buy.

but its the emotional aspect ( i went through the gongtao period from ktv/ siam diu girl and that was painful), that i guess is lacking.

For me personally, i am throwing myself into work and also keeping myself fit ( focusing a lot on my mental health and spending money to keep my mind straight, and yes, FLs do help me keep my mind straight and its a worthwhile investment cos it fills up my soul).

sometimes i wonder, is the rest of my life going to be like this? this scares me...

[huayingxiong]

Bro Dodgekenji

There are many post in this thread that already talks abt women and their behaviour. What u going thru is not unique and happens to many.

Guess u don have children so to me, it will be a easier way to let go without thos part of the burden. However I do sense u love your wife that's being a reason u wanted to reunite and relight the spark.

For me, I have question myself did I ever love her in the first place when I decided to carry on with my next step. My relationship with my wife is not a usual one. Our relationship was build more on commitment rather than love from the very first day. Anyway, I have to move on that's how I get to what is best for me at my age. I can't say I did not have good sex in my younger days yet, I had know that she does not enjoy it as much as I do during those day, and is only now I see that it actually happens to many other women. So is not her sole prob. Is the nature of all women.

For now what I can say is, acceptance, moving on, enjoy the moment. For me, I always think I am a man with 1 leg inside the coffin, so why bothers so much any more.

I recall once there was this lady who told me, get a live. I start to think, by moving out of the house, live alone, is that being getting a life?

I am not rich, yet I had a pretty good life thus far. So, I can only tell myself, heaven is fair. I can't have everything and is not fair to give me all the best thing�� If I am to live this life without having a true love, then be it.

At this moment, maybe u can think abt your self esteem, how to look good.

I am bless with a youthful look. Even at mid 50s, I believe I attracts more attention from women now than before. I believe if u try to take yourself to the next level, u will be able to find life to be more enjoyable. Who knows when u have build up yourself, getting more attention from other women, your wife may get jealous and comes hunting back on u ��

Cheers

[cbkia222]

Bro Dodgekenji

There are many post in this thread that already talks abt women and their behaviour. What u going thru is not unique and happens to many.

Guess u don have children so to me, it will be a easier way to let go without thos part of the burden. However I do sense u love your wife that's being a reason u wanted to reunite and relight the spark.

For me, I have question myself did I ever love her in the first place when I decided to carry on with my next step. My relationship with my wife is not a usual one. Our relationship was build more on commitment rather than love from the very first day. Anyway, I have to move on that's how I get to what is best for me at my age. I can't say I did not have good sex in my younger days yet, I had know that she does not enjoy it as much as I do during those day, and is only now I see that it actually happens to many other women. So is not her sole prob. Is the nature of all women.

For now what I can say is, acceptance, moving on, enjoy the moment. For me, I always think I am a man with 1 leg inside the coffin, so why bothers so much any more.

I recall once there was this lady who told me, get a live. I start to think, by moving out of the house, live alone, is that being getting a life?

I am not rich, yet I had a pretty good life thus far. So, I can only tell myself, heaven is fair. I can't have everything and is not fair to give me all the best thing�� If I am to live this life without having a true love, then be it.

At this moment, maybe u can think abt your self esteem, how to look good.

I am bless with a youthful look. Even at mid 50s, I believe I attracts more attention from women now than before. I believe if u try to take yourself to the next level, u will be able to find life to be more enjoyable. Who knows when u have build up yourself, getting more attention from other women, your wife may get jealous and comes hunting back on u ��

Cheers

nice words bro :)

Thank you for sharing :)

over the past year been questioning myself a lot as well.

Then just realised, really, have to learn to live life the way i want it to be and dont be so stressed up by the wife..

[dodgekenji]

Maybe you are right in getting ourself fit, as for your FL, I do not have the spending power like you because career is going through low tide now.

[dodgekenji]

Maybe you are right in getting ourself fit, as for your FL, I do not have the spending power like you because career is going through low tide now.




[QUOTE=dodgekenji;24249639]Hi bro, I am also doing some sport to get some energy and attention off from my sexless marriage. I do not know about women, but I felt that men need to make love so that they feel wanted or loved by women. When wife does not even want you to touch her then that means she is no longer interested in you. Let alone communicating to you. Maybe she looked down on me or simply feel that no need to do so much already since has a family.

I brought it up once that maybe we should get some helps. She told me off dont be silly and waste money and waste energy keep thinking about sex and relationship. After that time, I did not bring up.

Now, we seldom talk and communicate, she is always watching her phone and I just do the same too. I sleep on floor and child sleep on the bed with her. There was once I sept on the bed, but she kept using her phone and i find it akward that I pretend to be asleep.

Like I said, no one I can talk to except putting words here in the forum.

I also do not want how to make myself not to think so much where our marriage is going to end up.








Hi Bro, know that you are not alone here .

I dont even get a hug or a pat on the back from my wife . used to it.

as for sex, SBF has always been there for me, so even when i dont get it from my wife , its something that i can buy.

but its the emotional aspect ( i went through the gongtao period from ktv/ siam diu girl and that was painful), that i guess is lacking.

For me personally, i am throwing myself into work and also keeping myself fit ( focusing a lot on my mental health and spending money to keep my mind straight, and yes, FLs do help me keep my mind straight and its a worthwhile investment cos it fills up my soul).

sometimes i wonder, is the rest of my life going to be like this? this scares me...

[dodgekenji]

I do have children. Maybe I have to learn to think like you, no need talk so much about love and care, just focus on committment and kid. BUt sometimes, in your brain, you tell yourself this, but when you see her and cold attitude, you get very upset and angry too.

I do have good sex withher when we were together before marraige.

Your words are really encouraging and you did enlighten me that fact there one leg in coffin, what more can I ask for now. Maybe whever I get depressed I will come back to read this message to get some comfort.

Also, you are right if no sex lead to breakup and living alone does not mean you can get another one who knows you. Especially with our age.






Bro Dodgekenji

There are many post in this thread that already talks abt women and their behaviour. What u going thru is not unique and happens to many.

Guess u don have children so to me, it will be a easier way to let go without thos part of the burden. However I do sense u love your wife that's being a reason u wanted to reunite and relight the spark.

For me, I have question myself did I ever love her in the first place when I decided to carry on with my next step. My relationship with my wife is not a usual one. Our relationship was build more on commitment rather than love from the very first day. Anyway, I have to move on that's how I get to what is best for me at my age. I can't say I did not have good sex in my younger days yet, I had know that she does not enjoy it as much as I do during those day, and is only now I see that it actually happens to many other women. So is not her sole prob. Is the nature of all women.

For now what I can say is, acceptance, moving on, enjoy the moment. For me, I always think I am a man with 1 leg inside the coffin, so why bothers so much any more.

I recall once there was this lady who told me, get a live. I start to think, by moving out of the house, live alone, is that being getting a life?

I am not rich, yet I had a pretty good life thus far. So, I can only tell myself, heaven is fair. I can't have everything and is not fair to give me all the best thing�� If I am to live this life without having a true love, then be it.

At this moment, maybe u can think abt your self esteem, how to look good.

I am bless with a youthful look. Even at mid 50s, I believe I attracts more attention from women now than before. I believe if u try to take yourself to the next level, u will be able to find life to be more enjoyable. Who knows when u have build up yourself, getting more attention from other women, your wife may get jealous and comes hunting back on u ��

Cheers

[cbkia222]

I do have children. Maybe I have to learn to think like you, no need talk so much about love and care, just focus on committment and kid. BUt sometimes, in your brain, you tell yourself this, but when you see her and cold attitude, you get very upset and angry too.

I do have good sex withher when we were together before marraige.

Your words are really encouraging and you did enlighten me that fact there one leg in coffin, what more can I ask for now. Maybe whever I get depressed I will come back to read this message to get some comfort.

Also, you are right if no sex lead to breakup and living alone does not mean you can get another one who knows you. Especially with our age.

Hi Bro,

we are a PM away :) want to kaopeh or anything can drop me a message :)

personally, i used to have all these negative thoughts and all, it really sucks.

try this ( this is what i do).
change diet ( eat more jiak por things, those things they say will make your dick harder), i believe those help rewire your brain and help get you out of the depressive mode :)

mental health is important :)

[huayingxiong]

Bro dodgekenji/ bro cbkia222,

Life is short, so treasure every moment.

Yes. The attitude the women showed us do make angry, or upset should be a better word. For now, I will return her the same look and start a Cold War 😆 Otherwise, I follow Leslie ChungÂ’s kind word 沉默是金 😜

I leave my mouth to taste good food rather than wasting time arguing.As the saying goes, 赚吃,赚来就是吃.

I agree, by building up our vitality, improve our manhood, thus help us to get rid of the negative impact. For me, I had gotten back my morning erection, which was lacking since donno when. The feel good factor I canÂ’t describe:)

I do have bad days, like the current month. I just tells myself come April, everything will goes well. CanÂ’t possibly be good all the time, and just endure and wait for good time to come. ThatÂ’s how I survive

PM u my tele, we can chat there

Cheers 🍻

[Khiampak]

I do have bad days, like the current month. I just tells myself come April, everything will goes well. CanÂ’t possibly be good all the time, and just endure and wait for good time to come. ThatÂ’s how I survive
Cheers ��

Yeah, keep up the spirit and wait for each other to die. That's it. HAHAHA.
Instead of nonsensical - I love you, You love me, that kind of BS. HAHAHA.
Really, kids these days watch too much Romeo and Juliet. Don't they know all they had watched were a tonne of BS? HAHAHA.

[cbkia222]

Bro dodgekenji/ bro cbkia222,

Life is short, so treasure every moment.

Yes. The attitude the women showed us do make angry, or upset should be a better word. For now, I will return her the same look and start a Cold War 😆 Otherwise, I follow Leslie ChungÂ’s kind word 沉默是金 😜

I leave my mouth to taste good food rather than wasting time arguing.As the saying goes, 赚吃,赚来就是吃.

I agree, by building up our vitality, improve our manhood, thus help us to get rid of the negative impact. For me, I had gotten back my morning erection, which was lacking since donno when. The feel good factor I canÂ’t describe:)

I do have bad days, like the current month. I just tells myself come April, everything will goes well. CanÂ’t possibly be good all the time, and just endure and wait for good time to come. ThatÂ’s how I survive

PM u my tele, we can chat there

Cheers 🍻

Hi Bro!

April will be better! Think positive!

you're among the SBF bros here :)

[Pictionary]

Only matured guys writing. No small big women interrupting here and just merely readers.

Sometimes i wonder, could these women be lesbians, who are very comfortable in hugging, touching and licking each other mouth to mouth, body to body, private to private than women towards men?

As usual i would prefer talking to hk-guangdong women than johor-indo women. I not so interested to use my left right brain talk to normal women who only knows certain languages. Ah zua yong simi wei kong? Tia boh xi tia boh.

But your wife you need to squeeze out your fried brains to convo your crap para para sakura language okay! Even to ginna, tolong!

Awaiting for other ang mo and KL advises. This localised kampung language and culture really cannot be compared to other countries' states.

[huayingxiong]

Hi Bro!

April will be better! Think positive!

you're among the SBF bros here :)

Yes think positive. Tmr will be better

[cbkia222]

For the guys still reading.

few bros have PMed me and had a good chat :)

majority of the time somehow these wives are literally boarderline emotionally abusing us ( husbands/ fathers), literally guilt tripping us and all.

Assuming you guys here are doing the best that you can ( i know some really useless guys, dont do shit at home, wives handle everything ) for your family,

I've come to realise that if you can somehow overcome this " mental mindset", ie, " I, as a husband/ father, have done nothing wrong", i think there will be a lot of underlying mental stress relief .

I somehow forced myself into this mindset earlier this year, literally just stopped blaming myself for each time my wife is mad at me over the smallest stupidiest shit.

Been feeling much better mentally and physically.

Also thanks to SBF here too la :)

Anyway for guys out there in similar situations, SBF brother hood is here for you :)

For myself, divorce at this point of time is not an option ( still young kids), so everything that i am doing now, is for the sake of ensuring i am mentally and physically healthy when that time actually comes and i will fight to keep my kids ( wife and go kick rocks)

[cbkia222]

Was just watching some tiktoks on women and their perimenopauses and all.

Shows how women are " victims" of their hormones and that their husbands should be supportive and understanding.

Gotta love the biasness in this world!

what they prob wont show is the collateral damage done by these women just cos they cant handle their hormones.

No one will ever forgive a man for " rage issues" cos he has too much testosterone. he will be immediately deemed an " abusive" husband.

Anyway, there are lucky husbands out there who's wives are better at handling these hormonal changes :)

for those like myself and a few others here, better off finding out own support else where so ensure we dont go crazy! haha

[alea]

Was just watching some tiktoks on women and their perimenopauses and all.

Shows how women are " victims" of their hormones and that their husbands should be supportive and understanding.

Gotta love the biasness in this world!

what they prob wont show is the collateral damage done by these women just cos they cant handle their hormones.

No one will ever forgive a man for " rage issues" cos he has too much testosterone. he will be immediately deemed an " abusive" husband.

Anyway, there are lucky husbands out there who's wives are better at handling these hormonal changes :)

for those like myself and a few others here, better off finding out own support else where so ensure we dont go crazy! haha

Totally agree! Am in similar situation too. Wife is big hypocrite. Every time she say want to communicate more, it will only be one way and that is to tell me what to do more.

I’ve given up on getting any sex from her. Financial circumstances don’t allow me to go for ML/FL. I’m happy with my left and right hands. Haha

[cbkia222]

Totally agree! Am in similar situation too. Wife is big hypocrite. Every time she say want to communicate more, it will only be one way and that is to tell me what to do more.

I’ve given up on getting any sex from her. Financial circumstances don’t allow me to go for ML/FL. I’m happy with my left and right hands. Haha

hi bro.. yeah man!

Wife told me " we need to communicate", then she say her shit. then when i say my shit, she blows up and starts fight! Women.

As for ML/ FL, i hope you strike 4D / Toto or you come into financial success soon!

for left and right hand.

www.eporner.com

www.missav.ws

best 2 sites ( missav now has subtitles). haha

[huayingxiong]

During my younger days, when I complain abt my counter part, my pal will always says, u donno women mey. And my answer will always be, yes, I donno women.

At my age now, I double cfm, I donno women. ��

For me to play a little Ah Q, I will tell myslef and others, what my pal and others had been thru some 20 yrs ago, I am only facing it now. So, I had some 20 yrs of gd life liao

Be strong.

Go for left hand, right hand, FL, ML, WL as long as mentally we survive lol��

[cbkia222]

my opinion about women.

they are constantly evolving. u cant help it. it is who they are : controlled by their hormones.

I believe, it is better to understand yourself and protect yourself from this.. hahaha

[gerber88]

Just an update:

So wife + kids out of town for their own holiday.

I flew in my Russian chick from Phuket..

4 days 3 nights in SG.

Air tix + hotel : $1k-ish

eating + sight seeing : $800?

pocket money + small gift ( dyson hair thingy).: $1.6k

total spent around $3k+

was super tired when she left ( balls empty) ,

today after waking up, mentally fully recharged for work and everything, told off one of my customers ( this fucker bargain , payment like shit, kaopeh why no stock ) ,

if want to kaopeh, then F--K off cos i would rather spend time and effort on customers who appreciate our efforts.

somehow, ( other than the sex part), just having a chick appreciate you and have fun with you ( other than bed), really helps your mental health!

and i must say, better than those fucking local sugar babies who demand for more and give less!

Another Soviet pussy lover!

these soviet pussies are definitely worth the money!hahaha! smooth and white!

nothing like a blond chick sucking you off!

for bros out there, go check out SNS's stable in dome3.

value for money and 100% worth it! A lot of memorable experiences with sns ladies!

Elite69s girls are a little pricey though, but has more European variety

trying to bring myself to pay for the Swedish 2m chick,

[michaelpoontang]

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

Wah lau, I'm so angry at your wife, leh! She's going through perimenopause, but that doesn't mean she can just take it out on you and the kids. You're trying your best to be supportive, even getting a maid to help with the kids so you can spend quality time with her, but does she appreciate it? No leh! She just keeps nitpicking and making life difficult for everyone. And then she denies everything when you try to talk to her about it? That's just not fair, leh! You deserve better than to be treated like this. You're doing everything for your kids, and you're still trying to make your marriage work, but it seems like she's not meeting you halfway. It's like she's just expecting you to handle everything on your own. You should stand up for yourself and express your feelings clearly. Maybe it's time for her to take responsibility for her actions and work on improving your relationship, instead of just blaming you for everything.And if you really cannot tahan, then maybe you should consider divorce, but don't just use your wife's condition as an excuse to go gongtao with other women. That's just not right, you hear?

[Pictionary]

Wah lau, I'm so angry at your wife, leh! She's going through perimenopause, but that doesn't mean she can just take it out on you and the kids. You're trying your best to be supportive, even getting a maid to help with the kids so you can spend quality time with her, but does she appreciate it? No leh! She just keeps nitpicking and making life difficult for everyone. And then she denies everything when you try to talk to her about it? That's just not fair, leh! You deserve better than to be treated like this. You're doing everything for your kids, and you're still trying to make your marriage work, but it seems like she's not meeting you halfway. It's like she's just expecting you to handle everything on your own. You should stand up for yourself and express your feelings clearly. Maybe it's time for her to take responsibility for her actions and work on improving your relationship, instead of just blaming you for everything.And if you really cannot tahan, then maybe you should consider divorce, but don't just use your wife's condition as an excuse to go gongtao with other women. That's just not right, you hear?
You express it all in one goal clearly. This is what seperates ABC English from the Hokkien Language.

Now the Ang Mohs are advising at both of you in this thread now, and still both of you have not being honest abouth your roots and still using direct indirect english and neverending comments. Simi tiktok women , simi left hand right hand. Just be honest and dun lie, otherwise at the same level, both of you as again shall seek government agency for the much needed advices.

Burang masa. You think ginnas dun even know how to pick up dialects from young isit? Both of you hold too much egos and unwilling to write/speak a single dialect here or to whatever age groups. It is a real shame to continue reading this thread as both of the guangdong FLs and me did willingly enjoy the services as well as the real guangdong convos. Both of you shall continue to entertain convos with your wives and children.

The xmm readers whoever they are, hopeless and still bugging guys to have a phone chitchat. It is the guys who cannot even have a proper chinese convos really falls into the honey trap.

[antares79]

Wife going thru the same thing starting last year, she had looked into the matter before the onset, looking for ways to lessen impact or even improve condition, physical exercise is key, not really dieting tho start to eat mostly veggie n lean protein, bed activities been pretty good
So wife needs to take steps for it,
From hubby, well I just help around more at chores, she sees me try she happy :D

[cbkia222]

Wife going thru the same thing starting last year, she had looked into the matter before the onset, looking for ways to lessen impact or even improve condition, physical exercise is key, not really dieting tho start to eat mostly veggie n lean protein, bed activities been pretty good
So wife needs to take steps for it,
From hubby, well I just help around more at chores, she sees me try she happy :D

hi bro,

wow you are lucky your wife was pro active to handle the matter :) But thanks for sharing on the importance of physical exercise.

I think that's why my wife is lacking, occassional yoga but thats it..

but thank you again bro :)

[baloo90]

Interesting.

Seems it is way way way more common than society has you believe. Almost 90% of my friends I speak to who have kids, say they have experienced something similar with their wives.

My understanding is women's hormones are not well understood. Balancing them is very very difficult because they are forever changing. Getting a test one week doesn't do much as the next week her hormones can change.

Add in having children, combined with aging and this puts a major spin on the body.

I've seen women who are friends, colleagues all talk about it.

I'd start a dialogue with close friends who have wives with kids. I almost guarantee 90%, if not all, are experiencing something similar. It is just not talked about by women much (or men and DOCTORS too!), often dismissed as "that time of the month"

There is heaps of literature on this from PMDD to perimenopause. PMDD is now slowly being understood. From what I have read, it is an ongoing process and you and your wife will continually need to work on it (as it is ever changing).

Just know you aren't alone, and the grass is not greener (as so so so many women experience this). Hang in there bro.....

[baloo90]

hi bro,

wow you are lucky your wife was pro active to handle the matter :) But thanks for sharing on the importance of physical exercise.

I think that's why my wife is lacking, occassional yoga but thats it..

but thank you again bro :)


Yes, do as much natural treatments that is proven to help regulate hormones. = consistent and regular sleep, exercise and clean diet.

[baloo90]

Wah lau, I'm so angry at your wife, leh! She's going through perimenopause, but that doesn't mean she can just take it out on you and the kids. You're trying your best to be supportive, even getting a maid to help with the kids so you can spend quality time with her, but does she appreciate it? No leh! She just keeps nitpicking and making life difficult for everyone. And then she denies everything when you try to talk to her about it? That's just not fair, leh! You deserve better than to be treated like this. You're doing everything for your kids, and you're still trying to make your marriage work, but it seems like she's not meeting you halfway. It's like she's just expecting you to handle everything on your own. You should stand up for yourself and express your feelings clearly. Maybe it's time for her to take responsibility for her actions and work on improving your relationship, instead of just blaming you for everything.And if you really cannot tahan, then maybe you should consider divorce, but don't just use your wife's condition as an excuse to go gongtao with other women. That's just not right, you hear?

My man, there is no logic to how she is acting. It is hormones, which controls your emotions and feelings.

Her acting like this is not her wish or being ungrateful. Similar to depression, it cannot be controlled and is self destructive.

Men generally don't understand it because our hormones are generally very consistent throughout our lives. Women's are not.

[cbkia222]

Interesting.

Seems it is way way way more common than society has you believe. Almost 90% of my friends I speak to who have kids, say they have experienced something similar with their wives.

My understanding is women's hormones are not well understood. Balancing them is very very difficult because they are forever changing. Getting a test one week doesn't do much as the next week her hormones can change.

Add in having children, combined with aging and this puts a major spin on the body.

I've seen women who are friends, colleagues all talk about it.

I'd start a dialogue with close friends who have wives with kids. I almost guarantee 90%, if not all, are experiencing something similar. It is just not talked about by women much (or men and DOCTORS too!), often dismissed as "that time of the month"

There is heaps of literature on this from PMDD to perimenopause. PMDD is now slowly being understood. From what I have read, it is an ongoing process and you and your wife will continually need to work on it (as it is ever changing).

Just know you aren't alone, and the grass is not greener (as so so so many women experience this). Hang in there bro.....

Hi Bro,

thank you so much for sharing :)
When i was younger, heard so many stories about women " changing" , but always thought it would be in the 50s, not 40s!

So now that i'm actually experiencing it myself, not a very fun thing.

I'm actually at a very good place in my career now , but my job is extremely mentally demanding ( gotta put on a smile and literally suck up to customers even when they are total dicks)

And also, i make it a point that my home is taken care of ( i dont physically do the chores, but my maid gets everything done).

So getting sucked into this unnecessary emotional black hole is actually really draining.

but anyway, again, thank you so much bro for sharing too!

[macrick]

Hi Bro,

thank you so much for sharing :)
When i was younger, heard so many stories about women " changing" , but always thought it would be in the 50s, not 40s!

So now that i'm actually experiencing it myself, not a very fun thing.

I'm actually at a very good place in my career now , but my job is extremely mentally demanding ( gotta put on a smile and literally suck up to customers even when they are total dicks)

And also, i make it a point that my home is taken care of ( i dont physically do the chores, but my maid gets everything done).

So getting sucked into this unnecessary emotional black hole is actually really draining.

but anyway, again, thank you so much bro for sharing too!

40s should start already. Coz they r end of their reproductive cycle. You go research abit. Jialat cases, late 30s, due to modern lifestyle stress. Work, not enough sleep, poor nutrition.

[cbkia222]

40s should start already. Coz they r end of their reproductive cycle. You go research abit. Jialat cases, late 30s, due to modern lifestyle stress. Work, not enough sleep, poor nutrition.

man thats crazy.

if i had known about this earlier and mentally prepared myself, my life would have been so much easier.

guess some words of wisdom to pass down to my kids next time :

[huayingxiong]

man thats crazy.

if i had known about this earlier and mentally prepared myself, my life would have been so much easier.

guess some words of wisdom to pass down to my kids next time :

there's no way for prep as different pple behave differently.

Anyway, women is trouble. Without them, our little one can't survive, with them, our big head can't survive lol

[cbkia222]

there's no way for prep as different pple behave differently.

Anyway, women is trouble. Without them, our little one can't survive, with them, our big head can't survive lol

women: cant stand them sometimes but definitely cant live without them. hahahaha :)

as for preparing, i'm the kind of person who tries my best to make everyone happy. For a few years i thought i wasnt trying hard enough and kept pushing myself. Nearly pushed myself into depression.

so now actually knowing this, its " less guilt" on my side and just letting the storm play out on its own without getting sucked into it.

But thank god for SBF:)

[Manowar00]

Just an update:

So wife + kids out of town for their own holiday.

I flew in my Russian chick from Phuket..

4 days 3 nights in SG.

Air tix + hotel : $1k-ish

eating + sight seeing : $800?

pocket money + small gift ( dyson hair thingy).: $1.6k

total spent around $3k+

was super tired when she left ( balls empty) ,

today after waking up, mentally fully recharged for work and everything, told off one of my customers ( this fucker bargain , payment like shit, kaopeh why no stock ) ,

if want to kaopeh, then F--K off cos i would rather spend time and effort on customers who appreciate our efforts.

somehow, ( other than the sex part), just having a chick appreciate you and have fun with you ( other than bed), really helps your mental health!

and i must say, better than those fucking local sugar babies who demand for more and give less!

Wow the price is good. 3-4K for 4d3n
Late 20s Early 30s kind ?

[cbkia222]

Wow the price is good. 3-4K for 4d3n
Late 20s Early 30s kind ?

mine was 28 yrs old :)nubile , young and full of energy :)

i had 35 yr old ones ( bluff me 28 but was actually 1989 one), but a dam good fuck ( body was still tight but had a great personality, had a great time and still in touch

[fallen11]

where to go to find young russian chick to take out for play?

[cbkia222]

where to go to find young russian chick to take out for play?

Hi Bro,

usually i stay in touch with some of the nice escorts that i find locally.

Thailand is a " waiting area" for many Russian chicks cos its cheap and there's also demand for escorts there.

U can check out the euroescortgirls.com ( needs VPN for sg).

met some nice agents who had nice girls ( and also independent girls).

[cbkia222]

Hello from bkk guys.

Just had a great few days with my russian chicken here.

Though physically tired and balls empty, I feel so much better mentally and emotionally, going back to sg tonight and planning a weekend to play with my kids, take care of my parents and also attend to my business.

I used to be very stingy when it comes to myself( when alone eat cheap stay cheap), but with family money is not an issue, now this trip, got a nice 5 star hotel in bkk, arranged nice spa for my girl, learn to really enjoy my own life and to pamper these girls who actually appreciate it!

Now I understand, sometimes spending these kind of money is worth it cos, it really heals your soul and u actually feel happier.

Hope other bros in similar situations can give this a try(just don't gongtao)haha

[gerber88]

good post for sharing.

similar situation for some time ( after kids).

best solution is just to have a side chick to keep you happy mentally.

for sex, lots of FLs here to satisfy your needs!

I think of it this way

enough stress at home with the usual sg life style ( school, kids and all that drama) and women constantly nagging.

work harder, earn more money, put aside a good amount to indulge in Fls to keep your dick happy and keep a few side chicks to indulge in ( make sure they are not local, dont shit where you eat) for that GFE.

dont under estimate the power of GFE!

when you are happy, less stress = better for health!

Just like taking vitamins/ health supplements!

[gerber88]

where to go to find young russian chick to take out for play?

Bro,

check this out ( in the the international FR subforum)

https://www.sbfsg.net/showthread.php?t=1038766

someone just started Russian online girlfriends!

Didnt think much and was bored one night and just decided to give it a try, pretty legit!

My girl dam cute ( SYT) and hot body. cute and innocent personality..

having regular chats with her at night when wife and kids are asleep.

website is

www.sigmaes.net
(www.sigmaes.net)

cheaper than dome 3 FLs, haven gotten the courage to ask for the dirty stuff yet ( dont wanna know the damage), but just spent about $125 SGD on it, pretty happy so far.

at least these are city girls, wont get the " my cow sick need money" excuse.

[cbkia222]

Bro,

check this out ( in the the international FR subforum)

https://www.sbfsg.net/showthread.php?t=1038766

someone just started Russian online girlfriends!

Didnt think much and was bored one night and just decided to give it a try, pretty legit!

My girl dam cute ( SYT) and hot body. cute and innocent personality..

having regular chats with her at night when wife and kids are asleep.

website is

www.sigmaes.net
(www.sigmaes.net)

cheaper than dome 3 FLs, haven gotten the courage to ask for the dirty stuff yet ( dont wanna know the damage), but just spent about $125 SGD on it, pretty happy so far.

at least these are city girls, wont get the " my cow sick need money" excuse.



Thanks for the recommendation!

Actually also saw it and just went to try.

Been more than a week and am pretty happy with the money spent.

My chick is actually a uni psychology major and literally, she's been helping a great help talking to me about my wife issues and knows how to keep me positive.

Also bonus she is fucking hot and slutty. 2 in 1.

Also definitely fun to see her cute message bubbles in the mornings and at night.

I actually spend more time talking to this chick than my other Russian chick in bangkok. ( kind of tired of that chick liao, might be time to find a new one)


Anyway, now even when wife is angry over just anything, i just blank out my mind, wait till i have some privacy and just sent my chick a nice message :)

Spent a bit ( till date around $300 i think) , but honestly, for the mental clarity, 100% worth it!

[sigmaes]

Thanks for the recommendation!

Actually also saw it and just went to try.

Been more than a week and am pretty happy with the money spent.

My chick is actually a uni psychology major and literally, she's been helping a great help talking to me about my wife issues and knows how to keep me positive.

Also bonus she is fucking hot and slutty. 2 in 1.

Also definitely fun to see her cute message bubbles in the mornings and at night.

I actually spend more time talking to this chick than my other Russian chick in bangkok. ( kind of tired of that chick liao, might be time to find a new one)


Anyway, now even when wife is angry over just anything, i just blank out my mind, wait till i have some privacy and just sent my chick a nice message :)

Spent a bit ( till date around $300 i think) , but honestly, for the mental clarity, 100% worth it!

Thank you for your kind words.

Glad to be of service!

[civic_jerk]

Bro, I feel you!! This is sad..

Hi guys, i want to ask you all a serious question:

For those who are married and have spouses in their 40s, how do u deal with your wives who are going through perimenopause?

For my background, married 10 yrs/ 2 kids / stay landed . Maid to handle all the kids activities.

Wife and I both work ( i'm in regional sales, travel monthly and when i'm in sg, either WFH or just office meetings)

Money is not really an issue at home, but wife has started to act out last year, either being over bearing on my kids ( this sick that sick) and i'm always the problem.

Ohh yes, no more sex ( as usual, tired and shit, been already years) and i have given up initiating intimacy.

For me now, i just doing everything to give my kids the best childhood and life. My wife, i tried doing the " usual textbook stuff", ie date nights, 1 day a week just to her ( i get my maid to settle my kids), but usually end up fighting cos she wants to go home and thinks my maid cannot take care of the kids

She has been boarder line nit picking on my maid on everything ( laundry not done on time, food not up to standard, etc) and i've always been trying to mediate things ( my maid is awesome with my kids and i trust)

We also have support from my parents side since my kids were young ( my parents gladly help out whenever they can )

I thought i was going crazy and it was affecting my heath and workuntil i suddenly read up on perimenopause symptoms and everything matches:

The anxiety on everything, fatigue , moodyness ( also no sex)

Anyway, sex part, thats why i'm here on SBF more often than ever ( from GL lor 18 houses) to recently SNS's girls and also ivanka's/ elite69s euro girls!
Plus i'm spending a lot of other russian escorts.

Its definitely not healthy but somehow its helping my mental health and i'm able to just be a better person at home for my kids. If it helps me think better, work better to do more sales, earn more money for my kids, its worth spending on.

To see appreciation and kindness from these escorts ( yes i know this is boarderline gongtao, i've been gongtaoed previously by thai FLs, need to pay for car insurance back home etc).

i dont know if the rest of my life will be like this, the escorts whom i've spoken to ( i bao-ed a few for overseas trips), said sex is important and they said why stay married if all this is gone. Divorce is out of question now as i've seen what it does to young children.

I believe its just a perimenopause issue but wife denies everything and i'm always the problem. Told her off once that she didnt have to do any shit at home or worry about the kids ( i came from operations and i like to plan out everything smoothly to ensure process if smooth).

There is a limit to how much FLs can bring ( yes cumming inside/ on these Fls are awesome for the moment), but i just need some appreciation

One of my friend's recommended Sugar babes, went to see a few, fucking SG girls think their pussies golden, cheaper to go bring a russian escort to phuket and bang her brains out for 2 days than to support one of these local sugarbabes.

Any of you guys going through the same thing? How do u deal with this?

Thank you in advance

[civic_jerk]

Add me in can? 😁

You’re welcome bro. :)
Do you drink? Perhaps we can chat more over some wine/whisky and share our misery and the good sbf stuff Lol

[cbkia222]

Bro, I feel you!! This is sad..

Hi Bro,

yup, it is what it is :) have learnt to cope :)

Thank goodness for the goodness of SBF!

[Dignified69]

Compiled from many of the posts here:


She's ask for communication and when she hears something she doesnt like, she goes off.

She only wants to hear what she wants to hear.. so yeah..

Wife doesnt drink ( doesnt like it) and occassional goes for yoga.

Advised about the excise stuff but she's always " tired" after work.

The sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started.

Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.

After that would be lucky to get a hug or a cuddle!

Looks like we are all married to the same person. Thank god (or gaahmen) for GL and the chio bu I have met who makes me feel alive.

I can't believe how stupid some otherwise smart women can be. Not giving their husbands sex and affection and thinking that everything will be ok.

Stupidity and smartness are like Ying and Yang. Both actually exist together haizz

[huayingxiong]

Compiled from many of the posts here:


She's ask for communication and when she hears something she doesnt like, she goes off.

She only wants to hear what she wants to hear.. so yeah..

Wife doesnt drink ( doesnt like it) and occassional goes for yoga.

Advised about the excise stuff but she's always " tired" after work.

The sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started.

Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.

After that would be lucky to get a hug or a cuddle!

Looks like we are all married to the same person. Thank god (or gaahmen) for GL and the chio bu I have met who makes me feel alive.

I can't believe how stupid some otherwise smart women can be. Not giving their husbands sex and affection and thinking that everything will be ok.

Stupidity and smartness are like Ying and Yang. Both actually exist together haizz

Is a universal prob, settle by universal way

[huayingxiong]

One of my colleague comments ' Happy wife, happy life'

Any comments or add on?

[AnnieYJL]

I recalled the days where my husband and I started our career, we had little money but lots of sex. It is like of crazy having sex in public areas, all over the house etc. After thar both of us did relatively ok and had 2 condos. Our financials got better, house got bigger but sex becomes more like a routine.

I probably understand how your wife feels. I don’t have kids but my friends always say “Maid cannot replace own mother.” Women with kids have so many things to worry

(1) school work
(2) go holiday also need to bring extra things
(3) even going out to eat also troublesome

Also at work need to worry about a lot of things. Sometimes in life need some trade offs. But easy for guys to just go find other women for happiness. These women see entertaining guys as full time job hence I am not surprised they offer such great services.

Perhaps try to have more family activities together. After putting children in bed, try to do things together

[bbqchiz]

So the golden question is - are you still having loads of sex :)

I recalled the days where my husband and I started our career, we had little money but lots of sex. It is like of crazy having sex in public areas, all over the house etc. After thar both of us did relatively ok and had 2 condos. Our financials got better, house got bigger but sex becomes more like a routine.

I probably understand how your wife feels. I don’t have kids but my friends always say “Maid cannot replace own mother.” Women with kids have so many things to worry

(1) school work
(2) go holiday also need to bring extra things
(3) even going out to eat also troublesome

Also at work need to worry about a lot of things. Sometimes in life need some trade offs. But easy for guys to just go find other women for happiness. These women see entertaining guys as full time job hence I am not surprised they offer such great services.

Perhaps try to have more family activities together. After putting children in bed, try to do things together

[AnnieYJL]

So the golden question is - are you still having loads of sex :)

Now almost sexless. Haha! Not I don’t want but my husband like cannot. If he can then I will drain him dry

[Quasitoto]

One of my colleague comments ' Happy wife, happy life'

Any comments or add on?

my concern is sometimes people, in this case ‘wife’, gets into a perpetual cycle of unhappiness. and sometimes that stems from something deeper (psychological, not physical) that needs to be worked (or thought) out.

Stuff like gratefulness, eat/pray/love kinda thing.
As men we’re quite used to glossing over each others internal struggles and just redirect unhappy thoughts. I’ll cut myself here as this would get too long otherwise :D

[whatever123]

my concern is sometimes people, in this case ‘wife’, gets into a perpetual cycle of unhappiness. and sometimes that stems from something deeper (psychological, not physical) that needs to be worked (or thought) out.

Stuff like gratefulness, eat/pray/love kinda thing.
As men we’re quite used to glossing over each others internal struggles and just redirect unhappy thoughts. I’ll cut myself here as this would get too long otherwise :D

Fully agree with this. I dun get any sex now too. She worries over any fucking thing all the time, long or short term.

[whatever123]

Compiled from many of the posts here:


She's ask for communication and when she hears something she doesnt like, she goes off.

She only wants to hear what she wants to hear.. so yeah..

Wife doesnt drink ( doesnt like it) and occassional goes for yoga.

Advised about the excise stuff but she's always " tired" after work.

The sex has stopped right after my second kid was born and it has been many many years since the dry spell started.

Thank god there are so many MLs around to keep me balanced and sane hahaha.

After that would be lucky to get a hug or a cuddle!

Looks like we are all married to the same person. Thank god (or gaahmen) for GL and the chio bu I have met who makes me feel alive.

I can't believe how stupid some otherwise smart women can be. Not giving their husbands sex and affection and thinking that everything will be ok.

Stupidity and smartness are like Ying and Yang. Both actually exist together haizz

Sounds like mine too

[whatever123]

Now almost sexless. Haha! Not I don’t want but my husband like cannot. If he can then I will drain him dry

You sure your hubby not one of those complaining here about no sex? lol

[danmav]

I found this thread late. But oh wow it lifted my spirits cos now I know I’m not alone! Similar situation and life stage as the OP (just not as rich! :P), and totally get what he’s saying.

Ever since number 2 kid came along, the pattern is we could have sex like 2-3 times on one week, and then it’s dry for several months after that. Nowadays, I’ll be lucky to get it once a month. :(

I used to initiate these things, with a 10% success rate (usually cos time of the month, tired, no mood, scroll phone, watch Netflix etc). I stopped doing so sometime this year when one night she almost angrily rejected me (it wasn’t even that time of the month). It was a wtf moment that’s still feels quite raw. When I brought up this matter 1-2 days later when I’ve sufficiently cooled off, she didn’t even want to respond. So I just said my piece and left it there.

I never thought I’d come to this, but in a way I’m glad there’s such a thing as SBF and FLs out there. If the need arises, just go service the need and move on. Only don’t hold everything in.

[AnnieYJL]

You sure your hubby not one of those complaining here about no sex? lol

How can that be when I was always waiting to give him?

[crazyivan6636]

Now almost sexless. Haha! Not I don’t want but my husband like cannot. If he can then I will drain him dry

Sounds like an office mate of mine. Just know to mount a girl (wife) from the back, a few hard pumps in 3 minutes, and blew everything inside. Pulled out and head to the washroom to clean up and have a drink thereafter.

For him its just relieving unnecessary tension and giving the obligatory shot once a month to her.

[someonelonely]

I sometimes felt that I reached a point that I felt empty and redundant at home. Slept separately, major lack of communication and no longer have that feeling for being husband and wife.

Felt so sad as I really don't know what I have done to deserve this treatment.

[whatever123]

I sometimes felt that I reached a point that I felt empty and redundant at home. Slept separately, major lack of communication and no longer have that feeling for being husband and wife.

Felt so sad as I really don't know what I have done to deserve this treatment.

You have kids? Now I think mainly I live tgt for the kids. We become more like housemates than couple.

[whatever123]

How can that be when I was always waiting to give him?

You mean u tried to initiate all the time and he doesn’t want? Think guys can’t be leh - did u check if he has some ED issue?

[sane]

1) Take Initiative

If your wife prioritizes the kids’ studies, support her by stepping in. Help with tutoring, be more hands-on at home, take the mental load off her shoulders.
Some husbands come home and retreat into the room, glued to their phones, completely detached from what’s going on at home.
That’s not partnership — that’s being a roommate.

Also, if your partner is always the one planning — from meals with family to daily logistics — it shows a lack of involvement. Step up, take initiative, and share the mental load.

⸻

2) Be Romantic

When’s the last time you sent your wife a sweet message?

Think back to your dating days — the effort you made, the butterflies, the little gestures.
Among all the women in the world, you chose her to be your wife.
Don’t stop dating her just because you’re married.

⸻

3) Talk Nicely

Communication is everything. Some couples can’t even say two sentences before assuming the worst of each other, jumping to conclusions, or raising their voices.
Over time, shouting and misunderstanding kill emotional intimacy.
Talk with kindness, listen with patience — not everything needs to be a battle.

⸻

4) Don’t Lose Yourselves in the Kids

A common mistake couples make: once the kids grow up or become more independent, they find themselves strangers to each other.
Why? Because they forgot to maintain the relationship.

Make time for just the two of you — even if it’s just coffee together once or twice a week.
Plan a short getaway.
Remind your wife she’s still a woman — not just a mom — and she still wants to feel desired and loved.

If she were single, how would you woo her?
Do that. Even now.

[cbkia222]

I found this thread late. But oh wow it lifted my spirits cos now I know I’m not alone! Similar situation and life stage as the OP (just not as rich! :P), and totally get what he’s saying.

Ever since number 2 kid came along, the pattern is we could have sex like 2-3 times on one week, and then it’s dry for several months after that. Nowadays, I’ll be lucky to get it once a month. :(

I used to initiate these things, with a 10% success rate (usually cos time of the month, tired, no mood, scroll phone, watch Netflix etc). I stopped doing so sometime this year when one night she almost angrily rejected me (it wasn’t even that time of the month). It was a wtf moment that’s still feels quite raw. When I brought up this matter 1-2 days later when I’ve sufficiently cooled off, she didn’t even want to respond. So I just said my piece and left it there.

I never thought I’d come to this, but in a way I’m glad there’s such a thing as SBF and FLs out there. If the need arises, just go service the need and move on. Only don’t hold everything in.

wow been away from SBF for a bit,

glad it helped.. you are not alone..

I given up on the wife liao, literally just making sure my kids are happy, my parents taken care of in their late years and everything at home is smooth..

enjoying whatever i have left of my youth on them russian pussies... sucking the soviet juice to keep myself young! hahaha

[cbkia222]

1) Take Initiative

If your wife prioritizes the kids’ studies, support her by stepping in. Help with tutoring, be more hands-on at home, take the mental load off her shoulders.
Some husbands come home and retreat into the room, glued to their phones, completely detached from what’s going on at home.
That’s not partnership — that’s being a roommate.

Also, if your partner is always the one planning — from meals with family to daily logistics — it shows a lack of involvement. Step up, take initiative, and share the mental load.

⸻

2) Be Romantic

When’s the last time you sent your wife a sweet message?

Think back to your dating days — the effort you made, the butterflies, the little gestures.
Among all the women in the world, you chose her to be your wife.
Don’t stop dating her just because you’re married.

⸻

3) Talk Nicely

Communication is everything. Some couples can’t even say two sentences before assuming the worst of each other, jumping to conclusions, or raising their voices.
Over time, shouting and misunderstanding kill emotional intimacy.
Talk with kindness, listen with patience — not everything needs to be a battle.

⸻

4) Don’t Lose Yourselves in the Kids

A common mistake couples make: once the kids grow up or become more independent, they find themselves strangers to each other.
Why? Because they forgot to maintain the relationship.

Make time for just the two of you — even if it’s just coffee together once or twice a week.
Plan a short getaway.
Remind your wife she’s still a woman — not just a mom — and she still wants to feel desired and loved.

If she were single, how would you woo her?
Do that. Even now.

Bro tried EVERYTHING...

its never good enough.. that's women...

[gerber88]

thank goodness for SBF!!

where you can buy hourly love!

[AnnieYJL]

You mean u tried to initiate all the time and he doesn’t want? Think guys can’t be leh - did u check if he has some ED issue?

Can’t be la. He still standing hard

[reborne01]

It is really comforting to know I am not alone...

at times i really wonder why i even want to get married??? but since the choice is made, i do it for the kids.

eat outside but remember to clean your mouth and not bring anything home.

[gerber88]

It is really comforting to know I am not alone...

at times i really wonder why i even want to get married??? but since the choice is made, i do it for the kids.

eat outside but remember to clean your mouth and not bring anything home.

Yes exactly.

Mental health! Wives can be unhappy and pissed off all they want, we must maintain our mental health not just for ourselves, but for our kids.

[garry_rie]

Can’t be la. He still standing hard

How do you keep yourself satisfied.

[ibanezjem555]

Can’t be la. He still standing hard

Just love her reply.

[demonhunter]

Perimenopause - i call it the WEAK HUSBAND SYNDROME .

If from day 1 you are the Alpha in the relationship , you wont experience this .

Human nature , be it women or men. we all wanna test the limits of the other half.

women , will give you shit when they feel they can do without you . eg. i have a fat pay check and i can survive on my own

So are you the give in type and your wife is earning a pretty salary ? maybe more than you ?

[TenSanYi]

Alot of time communication won't solve the problem, womens has the tendancy to filter out what they dont want to hear. Divorce is the only solution

[gatorade]

I'm in the same situation as OP. But wife is not working since day 1. And the hard truth. It's only because of the kids. Nothing else.

But I set my mindset to take this as a life challenge and instead of being stress. I enjoy trying to solve the problems I face; being blame for no reasons, racking up past mistakes, get blame for kids behavior, blame for her not being happy etc etc etc.

I travel often too for jobs. No money issues at home.

I just thank her for making me think and solve issues at work cause of the years she 'trained' my brain.

Truth is....with the right mindset. You will be happy and feel love.

Sex is just an option while overseas

[themeanme]

Alot of time communication won't solve the problem, womens has the tendancy to filter out what they dont want to hear. Divorce is the only solution

Amen.. well said bro....