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Hidan88
28-01-2026, 03:37 PM
I broke my own rule of never visiting the same ML, seeing her six times over 2 months. Our sessions were consistent, but is legitimate massage with jg at the end. On my fifth visit, she mentioned returning to hometown for Lunar New Year. During the sixth, she learned I was married with children and she stopped me from roaming.

Days later, I was in her area for work at night. I usually visit during lunch and this was the first time i am in the area at night. We ran into each other, and she confessed she would not be coming back. She was leaving this line of work for good. We spoke for almost 1 hour and she told me she was glad that i am becoming happier day by day. She gave me her private contact, saying if she ever visited as a tourist, she might reach out. I requested for her social media and she added me on her instagram and tiktok.

When I suggested one last visit, she refused, citing not wanting to harm my life or hurt my wife. Despite my small gestures, like buying her drinks, she gently but firmly asked me to stop, advising me to go home and be a good husband.

I even gave her a red packet of $888 to wish her luck. She appeared in the darkest moment of my life when i wanted to suicide. However; she gave the red packet back to me and said that she is happy to see i am happier from the first time we met

I am wondering if she plotting something big or she is genuinely just a nice person?

Welovebighugs
30-01-2026, 01:01 AM
Hi bro, understand it could be complicated from what you have written. At the brink of suicidal thoughts, an angel ML appear to give you rest and comfort.

Is she PRC or vietnamese?
Your age or like 10 years younger?

If she is young, maybe she is genuinely concerned for your family. Since some of them still plan to go back and get married to some nice decent guys back in hometown.

So what is your intention of finding her for massage so many times?
obviously you like her, but there are almost a lot of other ML with pretty face or gfe. So you need to be honest with yourself, not necessary need to write here, unless you want to discuss about it openly.

Hidan88
30-01-2026, 02:09 PM
Hi bro, understand it could be complicated from what you have written. At the brink of suicidal thoughts, an angel ML appear to give you rest and comfort.

Is she PRC or vietnamese?
Your age or like 10 years younger?

If she is young, maybe she is genuinely concerned for your family. Since some of them still plan to go back and get married to some nice decent guys back in hometown.

So what is your intention of finding her for massage so many times?
obviously you like her, but there are almost a lot of other ML with pretty face or gfe. So you need to be honest with yourself, not necessary need to write here, unless you want to discuss about it openly.

To be honest, 5 years difference. Vietnamese.

She is cute but i think i find her not just cause of that. Mainly is the interaction over time.

lotsawin3
30-01-2026, 02:37 PM
Sounds like she is a good person and sensible too. Too often guys get kc by ML and usually nothing good comes out of it. A ML once told me, like is good enough (love is too complicated).

Hidan88
30-01-2026, 02:58 PM
Sounds like she is a good person and sensible too. Too often guys get kc by ML and usually nothing good comes out of it. A ML once told me, like is good enough (love is too complicated).

Yeah. To prevent kena kc, i never text her or look at her social media.

Welovebighugs
02-02-2026, 12:43 AM
To be honest, 5 years difference. Vietnamese.

She is cute but i think i find her not just cause of that. Mainly is the interaction over time.

Yah, could be the mutual attraction between 2 person. Sometimes we meet a fe soulmates at different point of our lives, but we only allowed to marry once and have 1 family.

Dont be too troubled by it, just enjoy the company. And treat her respectfully as you have already done. Could become friendship, acquaintances. Nothing drastic will emerge one because she going back already and each will be occupied with your own lives by then.

Tai_zi21
02-02-2026, 08:48 AM
There is nothing wrong with her and no point thinking abt it

Let assume she really like u… what can u give her? Nothing since you are already married with children…

If she wan to KC u… den even more u don’t need to go think too

The best pcs of advise is move on to the next target 😂😂😂

Topper
06-02-2026, 01:11 AM
I broke my own rule of never visiting the same ML, seeing her six times over 2 months. Our sessions were consistent, but is legitimate massage with jg at the end. On my fifth visit, she mentioned returning to hometown for Lunar New Year. During the sixth, she learned I was married with children and she stopped me from roaming.

Days later, I was in her area for work at night. I usually visit during lunch and this was the first time i am in the area at night. We ran into each other, and she confessed she would not be coming back. She was leaving this line of work for good. We spoke for almost 1 hour and she told me she was glad that i am becoming happier day by day. She gave me her private contact, saying if she ever visited as a tourist, she might reach out. I requested for her social media and she added me on her instagram and tiktok.

When I suggested one last visit, she refused, citing not wanting to harm my life or hurt my wife. Despite my small gestures, like buying her drinks, she gently but firmly asked me to stop, advising me to go home and be a good husband.

I even gave her a red packet of $888 to wish her luck. She appeared in the darkest moment of my life when i wanted to suicide. However; she gave the red packet back to me and said that she is happy to see i am happier from the first time we met

I am wondering if she plotting something big or she is genuinely just a nice person?

No matter how kind, innocent, angelic even she sounds, there are still risks of being part of a pig butchering scheme.

Always remember that the devil will always appear like an angel.

Now MLs/FLs/WLs are getting creative as more people are aware, so they will come out with all sorts of new ideas and patterns. Some once they know you are into them, will even give you free sessions, appear to 'help you save money' or even to the extent of lending you money to lure you in making you feel indebted.

Once they are sure you have fallen into KCT, that's when the goodies come. These goodies includes them telling you some sudden tragic news about being scammed in investments/business etc. when they go back home, all their savings gone! then appear to 'cry for days' complaining that all their efforts here being farked/creampied by men in SG are for nothing!

When the victim (kumlan simps) heard this sure feel so sympathetic (even crying with her lol) and will jitao invoke the heroic spirit in him to help her, including use up all his savings and even borrowing money (loan sharks/CC) lol, thinking that all will end up well like a fairy tale trusting that she will surely appreciate and love him back out of gratitude LOL. As you can guess, once she gets the money will jitao suddenly 翻脸不认人 and MIA.

As I've mentioned before (https://samsforum.com/showthread.php?p=25011895#post25011895) in another thread, MLs/FLs/WLs are cheekons and once once they become a cheekon they have basically like morphed into a new DNA species beyond redemption like submerged car in flood waters damaged beyond repair (https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=24930834&postcount=613) as their only skillset left is using their body and playing of men's emotions to earn money, nothing else.

Not only that, Cheekons knew inwardly they are already worse than 残花败柳 (used and broken), despise themselves with no hope of 从良 (https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=24930834&postcount=613), and 配不上 normal sane capable men, so eventually regardless of the initial romantic euphoria that customers have for them will always don't end up well 走向必死无疑的结局, so might as well make use of whatever cards they have in their hands to siphon maximum benefits.

In this regard, Cheekons knew that the only remaining guys who likes to 招惹她们 simping over them are basically those with mental or emotional problems (family, r/s etc.) unable to think rationally with a clear logical mind, some are even siao langs LOL so they have no choice but to play along to reap maximum gains.

Hence better be safe than sorry and wake up before it's too late. ;)

oxeso
06-02-2026, 09:44 AM
6 visits only roaming, $888 angbao.. Something wrong wif u ba?

Hidan88
07-02-2026, 06:36 PM
6 visits only roaming, $888 angbao.. Something wrong wif u ba?

Hahaha … in the end i learned from her colleague, a prc ML that their boss actually damn angry with this ML and me. This ML only work for 8months and resign. I always talk about chasing dream and passion during the massage. Hence, the lady boss is putting blame on me feeling i am the one at fault.

She was crying damn hard on her last day. She is going back because she wanted to stop working in this line. The other ML told her don’t be stupid because not easy to get permit to come back to work. However, she still chose to return to Vietnam in hope to start fresh.

Welovebighugs2
09-02-2026, 09:31 PM
Hahaha … in the end i learned from her colleague, a prc ML that their boss actually damn angry with this ML and me. This ML only work for 8months and resign. I always talk about chasing dream and passion during the massage. Hence, the lady boss is putting blame on me feeling i am the one at fault.

She was crying damn hard on her last day. She is going back because she wanted to stop working in this line. The other ML told her don’t be stupid because not easy to get permit to come back to work. However, she still chose to return to Vietnam in hope to start fresh.

Wah bro, you go and relax, do a massage, then ignite ML to chase her dreams. Not sure whether to compliment you for the effort but then got 1 less pretty ML in the market.
Haha, relax relax talk so deep topics ah.

Then the boss got blacklist you or not? not scared you brainwash another one to quit and follow suit, haha.

Hidan88
10-02-2026, 12:46 PM
Wah bro, you go and relax, do a massage, then ignite ML to chase her dreams. Not sure whether to compliment you for the effort but then got 1 less pretty ML in the market.
Haha, relax relax talk so deep topics ah.

Then the boss got blacklist you or not? not scared you brainwash another one to quit and follow suit, haha.

I went back wanted to try the new prc lady. The lady boss come out tell me don’t make another one go back again. Then she asked if i am in sales which i am indeed in hahahaha.

aimbird
14-02-2026, 06:40 PM
No matter how kind, innocent, angelic even she sounds, there are still risks of being part of a pig butchering scheme.

Always remember that the devil will always appear like an angel.

Now MLs/FLs/WLs are getting creative as more people are aware, so they will come out with all sorts of new ideas and patterns. Some once they know you are into them, will even give you free sessions, appear to 'help you save money' or even to the extent of lending you money to lure you in making you feel indebted.

Once they are sure you have fallen into KCT, that's when the goodies come. These goodies includes them telling you some sudden tragic news about being scammed in investments/business etc. when they go back home, all their savings gone! then appear to 'cry for days' complaining that all their efforts here being farked/creampied by men in SG are for nothing!

When the victim (kumlan simps) heard this sure feel so sympathetic (even crying with her lol) and will jitao invoke the heroic spirit in him to help her, including use up all his savings and even borrowing money (loan sharks/CC) lol, thinking that all will end up well like a fairy tale trusting that she will surely appreciate and love him back out of gratitude LOL. As you can guess, once she gets the money will jitao suddenly 翻脸不认人 and MIA.

As I've mentioned before (https://samsforum.com/showthread.php?p=25011895#post25011895) in another thread, MLs/FLs/WLs are cheekons and once once they become a cheekon they have basically like morphed into a new DNA species beyond redemption like submerged car in flood waters damaged beyond repair (https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=24930834&postcount=613) as their only skillset left is using their body and playing of men's emotions to earn money, nothing else.

Not only that, Cheekons knew inwardly they are already worse than 残花败柳 (used and broken), despise themselves with no hope of 从良 (https://samsforum.com/showpost.php?p=24930834&postcount=613), and 配不上 normal sane capable men, so eventually regardless of the initial romantic euphoria that customers have for them will always don't end up well 走向必死无疑的结局, so might as well make use of whatever cards they have in their hands to siphon maximum benefits.

In this regard, Cheekons knew that the only remaining guys who likes to 招惹她们 simping over them are basically those with mental or emotional problems (family, r/s etc.) unable to think rationally with a clear logical mind, some are even siao langs LOL so they have no choice but to play along to reap maximum gains.

Hence better be safe than sorry and wake up before it's too late. ;)

thumbs up! well said bro. put you in my Q list.

aimbird
14-02-2026, 06:43 PM
Hidan88, just enjoy the massage, body, process and move on to the next.

Dignified69
23-02-2026, 01:12 PM
When I suggested one last visit, she refused, citing not wanting to harm my life or hurt my wife. Despite my small gestures, like buying her drinks, she gently but firmly asked me to stop, advising me to go home and be a good husband.

I even gave her a red packet of $888 to wish her luck. She appeared in the darkest moment of my life when i wanted to suicide. However; she gave the red packet back to me and said that she is happy to see i am happier from the first time we met

I am wondering if she plotting something big or she is genuinely just a nice person?

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Don't ownself gontao

You are guilty as charged of overthinking. She helped you in the darkest time of your life. She is economically worse off and returned your $888. She is trying to protect you and your family.

Don't be a douche. There is goodness and beauty in all parts of life. Accept it where you find and surely goodness and mercy shall follow you all the days of your life