The way certain OKTs do business

[BroRock]

I think it's time this matter is brought up.....again. Samsters here do pay good money for services, only for them to be treated like fools and roberts.

1. For myself, I personally no longer go for FLs without decent FRs. True, I might not get first blood or whatever it is, but at least I know I'm paying for quality/service. So many FLs have way too good looking preview pictures, and you turn up only to see a fat ugly girl that you would not even bonk if she paid you. Granted, all pictures have some degree of photoshopping, but when the girl in question looks a 180 degrees off....it's just unacceptable:mad: More than a few times I have to bonk with my eyes closed, simply because the sight is fuck ugly. Worse yet, some of them are priced in excess of 140 dollars! You would think that by paying 140 dollars or more, a certain level of quality is assured.

But no, no such guarantee. If anything, by pricing these low quality girls higher, more Bros are tricked!

On top of that, they post dubious, fake FRs on their own sites....it's appalling.

Recently I went for this girl called Naomi. Look at the picture, then the FR on their site. I tell you, the girl looks fat and nothing like the picture. It's not even a matter of judgement here. It's pure deceit.

Look, OKTs, stop flooding the market with ugly girls. We are willing to pay here! I'd rather you get a few, good girls and I give you repeat business, then have you trick me once....and I'll never pay for your girls ever again. Simple business model, isn't it?

Once they have reached rock-bottom, they change their names and start with a new reputation.

2. Some OKTs think we owe them for a living. Especially those whose bosses are capable of getting prettier girls, or girls from more exotic countries. That's you, Exoticunt!

You call/sms them for a slot, they either don't reply, or they give you half-fuck replies. Worse yet, when you call them, they talk all gruff and treat you like a dog. As if I have to beg them for a slot! I wonder how they conduct their business! You talk to them all nice, and they give you the rough attitude. There was once I was merely late by 10 minutes, and I called before hand to inform him....and he spoke very condescendingly to me. I even left at the allocated time so the next bro did not have to wait due to my late timing. Guess that wasn't enough. Bro Exotic, I pay you, and this is what I get. Didn't even raise my voice.

Look, I won't die if I don't get to bonk your girls. I'll just go somewhere else.

[SilverFox@]

Look, OKTs, stop flooding the market with ugly girls. We are willing to pay here! I'd rather you get a few, good girls and I give you repeat business, then have you trick me once....and I'll never pay for your girls ever again. Simple business model, isn't it?


Please don't say this, because the moment you say this, I can anticipate a price increase:(

[BroRock]

Please don't say this, because the moment you say this, I can anticipate a price increase:(

I'm not advocating price increases. I'm advocating value for money. If you're paying plus-minus SGD150, I think it's fair to expect some "premium" value, don't you think?

[dominic7]

i agree... i maintain that as customers, we have right to reject. if they insist to be do business in this way, there are always other avenues for us. there r so many pickups, HCs, nightclubs. better still, go overseas.

the only strategy they have is to continuously flood the forum with their offerings 5 times a day. i think many actually try the first time but subsequently do not return. but actually if they have a reputation of good service, i believe the first timers will come back and become regulars

[kendory]

hi bros,

I beleive there will always be bad and good OKTs...

you have the freedom to choose others.. don't get work up... yes, it's disappointing when they don't serve to our expectation.. there are good ones around.. just have to go to another OTKs

I used to go to 1 or 2 regular OTKs... cheers...

play safe when u visit them... 1 thing I don't like is that the girls are asked to do BJ without condom... it's better to be safe then sorry.....

kend

[BroRock]

Let's just call a dime, a dime.

If the girl isn't good looking, fat or whatelse, but you know there is a market for them, go ahead and bring them in. Price them reasonably, that is, according to what they are worth. Don't go around calling them models or premiums or stick a tag of 150, post impossibly good-looking pictures with 20 kg of fat photoshopped off....and then get the kakias to post fake FRs on them.

This is what I call "hang goat's head, but sell dog meat".:mad:

Some Samsters just want a cheap bonk, fine by me. I prefer to pay a bit more for QC. But don't ever trick me to pay premium for some ah-sum.

You know what is the recent worst case experienced by me? Trapped in a small dingy room with a fuck-ugly fat thai FL with half-past six English, trying to BBBJ me. And she asks me after about 1 min of service:

"Why no stand?":confused:

Priceless.:mad:

[bolaking]

You know what is the recent worst case experienced by me? Trapped in a small dingy room with a fuck-ugly fat thai FL with half-past six English, trying to BBBJ me. And she asks me after about 1 min of service:

"Why no stand?":confused:

Priceless.:mad:

Brother. You could have reject the girl like I did once when I was misrepresented. Of course I pay some change to the girl.
So who is at fault if the real deal is different from the photo?
Very tough question I guess. Girl, agent or OKT? Girl for looking different in person, agent who sent girls photo to okts and okts who never reject when knowing she is different by 180degrees.I think all at fault if you ask me.
So Now, I only choose those okts that are reliable, who will listen to customers if things are not up to expectation.
Relax brother. You will find your trustworthy okt someday.:)

[shiok1968]

BroRock...I can understand your frustration but like what bolaking said is very true. You actually have a right to reject. Just pass some transport money and send the gal away. Really dun understand how you can allow yourself to be trapped in a room with a fuck-ugly fat thai FL (as described by you)???:rolleyes:

The bottom line is that the final decision is still yours. No one can force you to accept something if you are not willing to.:rolleyes:

As for myslf, I very seldom go for OKTs gals. I prefer to join my buddies in certain KTV joints and then decide from there. At least, I do know that I can take my own sweet time to decide what I want.:cool:

[BroRock]

While I certainly do not think the OKTs will be all too pleased with rejections, perhaps it will be something that I have to start doing soon....

Bro Bolaking, I have actually had my share of good OKTs. On one hand, I give them repeat business. On the other hand, there are only so many times I can RTF :)

Bro Shiok, I am not far enough up the evolution tree to hit the KTVs like TAM yet. Maybe one day...

[dominic7]

You know what is the recent worst case experienced by me? Trapped in a small dingy room with a fuck-ugly fat thai FL with half-past six English, trying to BBBJ me. And she asks me after about 1 min of service:

"Why no stand?":confused:

Priceless.:mad:

dun mean to make fun of your predicament. but the way u put it is really funny. LOL

[Soaplove]

Let's just call a dime, a dime.

You know what is the recent worst case experienced by me? Trapped in a small dingy room with a fuck-ugly fat thai FL with half-past six English, trying to BBBJ me. And she asks me after about 1 min of service:

"Why no stand?":confused:

Priceless.:mad:

Don't mean to make fun of you also, but the way you put it is really funny. Priceless indeed. Just brush it off as a bad experience lor. I have my share of bad FL too, girl so dark compare to pics so fair. Its like comparing night and day. Force myself to do 1 shot then left early without even a massage. I pray I will never be in your situation.

[fee3fow]

You can't really trust FRs also la some FRs say until the service like heaven but when i go there it was like hell :eek:

[BroRock]

dun mean to make fun of your predicament. but the way u put it is really funny. LOL

Don't mean to make fun of you also, but the way you put it is really funny. Priceless indeed. Just brush it off as a bad experience lor. I have my share of bad FL too, girl so dark compare to pics so fair. Its like comparing night and day. Force myself to do 1 shot then left early without even a massage. I pray I will never be in your situation.

I tell you, the experience is like NS. It's only funny when you're out of it.:(

[petrolheadsg]

errr I thot FL means Free Lance...any by free lance the assumption is that they are on their own and NOT under OKT?

thats why its gets confusing when folks talk about FLs and OKTs together in the same breadth...I dont consider them true FLs

TS ...suggest you try TRUE FLs themselves. Cheaper and better cos they market direct. Cuts out middleman margin, plus they have vested interest to work for repeat long term business (typically)

[TWATMAN]

Bro's agreed.

I had a really nasty experience as well recently.... Seriously... it's like buying jap porn back in the day. The cover pic and the real contents completely 2 differnet stories.

Appreciate that there has to be some advertising for any of the girls, and as with all advertising there's always a stretch of the truth, but the past instance I had was remarkably retarded.

Gonna link to my FR here(few of my bros laughed their ass off... I felt tres stupid though):
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/welcome-fl-dome-free-stds-included/110976-19yo-naomi-slutty-n-cfm-looks-gets-super-wild-bed-anal-avail.html

As a community dedicated to helping fill the coffers of these ladies and the OKTs who manage them... I honestly think we should make it clear to the rest of the bros that you can reject and walk away... which I did not know... and well.. aiyah maybe my balls a little too full anyway.

But yes... if this really keeps going on... we might as well walk in Geyland and choose.

[dominic7]

somebody should sticky this. i am sure that this is a timeless topic. but this year, i sure had a lot of adventures with okts. thinking of planning another trip to philippines. anyone interested? preferably intellectual company.

[A_M_D]

bro can reject mah, its not a problem becoz with pay for the services ;)

[sexhorny]

agree

some okt sucks

[loopjoop]

sigh, want to see picture again but seems to be promptly deleted....:(

[justl00king]

Think for those OKT's gals,if they can allow to view the gal first will be ideal.

Understand that if the gal is rejected they will lose earnings for that slot, but if chio bu what are the chances of rejection? If many rejections only means one thing- CMI. :rolleyes:

[BroRock]

Well, while having face to face previews is not likely unless you want to walk around GL, I think the whole idea of photoshopped and touched up pictures should go. With such perfect shots, you raise the customer's expectations, only for the disappointment to set in when you meet the girl. It's definite, because the pictures are made to look better than the real girl in question!

I propose just having live pics would be good enough. It's good because nobody has any delusions about the FL looking like some goddess, and what you see is what you get. Which means happy Samsters :) And that translates to better repeat business. Some OKTs are providing live pics which really is good, but most others just hide behind shiny, beautiful, too good to be true pics.

Put up live pics, price them reasonably and the problem is solved.

Simple. Nobody gets conned into bonking fat elephants, and the price paid is justified. OKTs earn money, samsters are happy, everybody wins. Ok, except for OKTs who insist on bringing in ugly girls, you lose.

[sabaixxx]

I tell you, the experience is like NS. It's only funny when you're out of it.:(

haha..you are right..really hit the nail on its head. I also advocate fair treatment to both customers and girls...some okts are fair to customers but unfair to girls, vice versa. I advocate fair business practice. All are welcomed to my discreet club,shown below...will show preview soon..

[Davidoff9876]

I tried a number of FLs here. So far Bro A1 is the best for me: I can vouch for him although I had only 2 girls from him, but it is also due to no moolah. If not will be more :p

On both bookings, I smsed in the wee hours (like 3am) and got a reply within 2 minutes! That is what I really call 24 Hr customer service!

Girls he brings in are generally younger (A1 has been honest with their age as well unlike other OKTs), photos were at least 80% accurate, suits my kind of taste, provides excellent service and value for money despite not having much experience.

So, not all OKTs are bad. Ive had bad ones too.

[BroRock]

Bro A1's girls are not too bad. There are some OKTs who have been around for ages with the same name, loyal clientele. Thaiboy's pretty decent too.

On a side note, I managed to have a decent bonk recently. The whole point is, I spent good time writing the FR, so might as well promote my piece of literature :D

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/welcome-fl-dome-free-stds-included/110178-lollipop_eu4ria-seek-zen-way-desire-4.html#post3412772

There you go.

[SilverFox@]

Put up live pics, price them reasonably and the problem is solved.

Simple. Nobody gets conned into bonking fat elephants, and the price paid is justified. OKTs earn money, samsters are happy, everybody wins. Ok, except for OKTs who insist on bringing in ugly girls, you lose.

There is no way you can stop these studio pics from happening.

Because eventually, there will be people who bite the bait.

[EtherC]

Learn to exercise your rights as a consumer. Lets take this scenario: You call your fruit vendor and say you want to buy a dozen apples. If the merchant place a bag with 3 rotten apples in front of you and you still buy, you're the willing sucker. Instead of blaming the merchant learn to reject the 3 rotten apples and demand the merchant to bring you 3 good ones before you pay.

If there are 100 customers and 80% are willing suckers who can fuck low grade girls, whine a bit and keep repeating these sorry fuck session then of course the okt can spend less effort in recruiting high standard ones. Now whose fault is it that lousy girls are flooding the market?

[huskypower]

Learn to exercise your rights as a consumer. Lets take this scenario: You call your fruit vendor and say you want to buy a dozen apples. If the merchant place a bag with 3 rotten apples in front of you and you still buy, you're the willing sucker. Instead of blaming the merchant learn to reject the 3 rotten apples and demand the merchant to bring you 3 good ones before you pay.

If there are 100 customers and 80% are willing suckers who can fuck low grade girls, whine a bit and keep repeating these sorry fuck session then of course the okt can spend less effort in recruiting high standard ones. Now whose fault is it that lousy girls are flooding the market?

I support the view of rejecting rotten apples.

This is the law of economic, when there is a demand there is a supply

"Demand" for rotten apples and the fruit vendors will bring in rotten apples to make more money easily.

Especially 2009 when money is even harder to comeby, buyers need to learn from the aunties buying groceries in the markets, bargain and rejection.

Need to be thinker face to achieve our desire.

The vendors are very smart and they know when they need to improve.

If we as a consumer do not unite and "tell" the vendors what we need , the vendor will have no direction.

UNITED we must become!

my 2cent worth

enjoy bros HAPPY NEW YEAR and GONG XI FA CAI!:)

[kopikia]

as per the subject, let me share with you my experience.

patronised this particular okt.

1st time
Arranged for slot and confirmed everything. Reached the place downstairs, parking car, sms came, saying ger sick, got to cancel. waste of my time/effort.

2nd time
Service of the ger was SOP but attitude was gd. Only issue i had with the ger was when i was about to CIM, she actually withdrew her mouth and acted blur, pointed my dick away from her face, and u guys may have guessed it, there was a volcanic eruption. I even had to cover my own dick with my own hands to prevent my own cum from landing on me!

But I didnt make a fuss and i din write nasty tings abt the ger, and yet still posted a normal FR, and commented gers who come back here for another tour of duty tend to slacken, as they may have known the mkt here better.

i made TWO attempts, 2 X attempts, to post the FR on his own forum. and i was dead sure both FRs appeared (as you can tell on the message heading, top left side where it shows the time/date stamp, it will have this orange colour square to indicate its newly posted.)

Mysteriously, both FRs DISAPPEARED

See, even OKT is into CENSORSHIP!

Im not posting this to spoil this okt's rep, just to share with u my experiences.

[BroRock]

Learn to exercise your rights as a consumer. Lets take this scenario: You call your fruit vendor and say you want to buy a dozen apples. If the merchant place a bag with 3 rotten apples in front of you and you still buy, you're the willing sucker. Instead of blaming the merchant learn to reject the 3 rotten apples and demand the merchant to bring you 3 good ones before you pay.

If there are 100 customers and 80% are willing suckers who can fuck low grade girls, whine a bit and keep repeating these sorry fuck session then of course the okt can spend less effort in recruiting high standard ones. Now whose fault is it that lousy girls are flooding the market?

While I understand that you are advocating buyer's rights with your analogy (which of course I agree with), there are some facets of your analogy which are flawed.

You cannot compare buying apples to patronising a FL; it's just not the same. You can be emotionless when buying fruits, and you certainly do not plan part of your day around buying fruits. The time, emotions and expected rewards you commit to booking the FL will raise your expectations for the experience. An apple, no matter how delicious you think it will be, is just an apple for the bite.

And of course an apple is not human like a FL is. When you reject a girl, you actually have to call the OKT in front of the girl after giving her a black face. I'm not a saint, but can you imagine what thoughts, and what feelings are going through the mind of the FL? They may be out to sell their bodies, but they are humans after all. As much as I know I have the rights to reject a girl, I really don't wish to put her through such disgrace and insult. An apple, or what other inanimate object up for sale, I have no issue rejecting.

And let's not forget the issue here is misinterpretation. Suppose I use your analogy of buying apples. The fruit vendor shows you pictures of clean, ripe juicy apples which you agree to for $10. Turns out, the bag contains rotten ones, which you only find out at home (akin to reaching the hotel). The trouble of returning the apples can be compared to the trouble of looking for another girl to bonk; moreover, the client is all set for some rock-the-bed session so there is some "urgency" involved. You'll probably cut off the rotten part of the apple and consume the rest, which is what most bros just do.

Will they RTF the girl or the OKT? No. They'll head for another "fruit vendor". But what if the trend is that, the entire street is full of vendors who do likewise? This is the exact situation happening here on FL Dome 1, which is why I am spending my time here to address this problem. Left unchecked, it can grow worse. You can change OKTs, only to be caught by another one with "rotten apples".

I agree with your point on buyers' rights, but there are certain points on rejection which can still prove tricky, and definitely the standards have to improve.

[SilverFox@]

I support the view of rejecting rotten apples.

This is the law of economic, when there is a demand there is a supply

"Demand" for rotten apples and the fruit vendors will bring in rotten apples to make more money easily.

Especially 2009 when money is even harder to comeby, buyers need to learn from the aunties buying groceries in the markets, bargain and rejection.

Need to be thinker face to achieve our desire.

The vendors are very smart and they know when they need to improve.

If we as a consumer do not unite and "tell" the vendors what we need , the vendor will have no direction.

UNITED we must become!

my 2cent worth

enjoy bros HAPPY NEW YEAR and GONG XI FA CAI!:)

Actually I do agree with what you said, but we must understand, the vendors do not care what is written here. This is not the 1st time got this kind of thread started. This is also not going to be a last time.

The worst thing is consumers will not unite.

[edchuath]

Actually I do agree with what you said, but we must understand, the vendors do not care what is written here. This is not the 1st time got this kind of thread started. This is also not going to be a last time.

The worst thing is consumers will not unite.

Unite by boycotting??:confused:

[rdips]

Unite by boycotting??:confused:

United by pointing out which OKT upload pics of their gals which is totally different from actual person.

Really felt disappointed with those OKTs who still everyday flood the forum here with their own thread, after bros here wrote FRs to comment either the gal's age is totally different from what they advertise here, or the picture uploaded is totally different from the actual person.
Really felt kena conned!!

I had the bad experience on Niko, although the gal's attitude is very good.
(Its nothing to do with the gals, but the OKT is to blame)

[TheSaint]

United by pointing out which OKT upload pics of their gals which is totally different from actual person.

Really felt disappointed with those OKTs who still everyday flood the forum here with their own thread, after bros here wrote FRs to comment either the gal's age is totally different from what they advertise here, or the picture uploaded is totally different from the actual person.
Really felt kena conned!!

I had the bad experience on Niko, although the gal's attitude is very good.
(Its nothing to do with the gals, but the OKT is to blame)

Well said bro. :)

[dominic7]

i will refrain from pointing fingers at any one. after all they are merely trying to run a business. there are hits and there are misses. just exercise your right as a consumer to reject goods which are not what were expected.

If you see a BMW advertisement on papers and you go down to the car show room to find that they only sell Toyotas, will you pay BMW price?

the number of beautiful women is just too many for me to waste time and resources screwing fugly

[SilverFox@]

United by pointing out which OKT upload pics of their gals which is totally different from actual person.

Really felt disappointed with those OKTs who still everyday flood the forum here with their own thread, after bros here wrote FRs to comment either the gal's age is totally different from what they advertise here, or the picture uploaded is totally different from the actual person.
Really felt kena conned!!

I had the bad experience on Niko, although the gal's attitude is very good.
(Its nothing to do with the gals, but the OKT is to blame)

Every OKT have done this before. You cannot ban every OKT. You can only ban yourself from patronising them. :o

1 customer less don't hurt their business.
10 customers less don't hurt much.
100 customers maybe.
1000 customers definitely.

Someone have to start the ball rolling go and get 100 customers to unite.:(

[SilverFox@]

i will refrain from pointing fingers at any one. after all they are merely trying to run a business. there are hits and there are misses. just exercise your right as a consumer to reject goods which are not what were expected.

If you see a BMW advertisement on papers and you go down to the car show room to find that they only sell Toyotas, will you pay BMW price?

the number of beautiful women is just too many for me to waste time and resources screwing fugly
Actually I think the moment you go to the room and reject the girl, the vendor will "marked" you. Next time no need to book again or you either change nick and number.

Most of the time you go to BMW show room, you see a Toyota.
It's easier to go to a Proton show room and you see a Toyota. :D

[BroRock]

Wow. Look at the thread on Niko.

It's so obvious that a number of FRs are planted there by OKT's clones, with what ratings like 9.5 for looks (and a 8 at least for all other stats) and "RTF: OF COURSE RETURN... Money no problem.... ". And when negative FRs turn up, they join forces to taunt and zap.:mad:

The amusing part is that one bro posted a rating as follows:

"Look: 7/10 Something like her"

Something like her? How about nothing like her?

I myself used to be so afraid of posting honest FRs in case my account got zapped. Why must we, as paying customers, be afraid to post real, honest comments? It's not like we are out to smash anybody's rice bowl! We're just calling a spade, a spade. And once the gang-zapping starts, we end up in moderation and our posts has to be approved prior to seeing any light of the day. Or that we have such low rep points we cannot get any sort of contact numbers, or OKTs refuse to take our business as the points are in the red.

Boss Sammyboy, may I propose a system for reporting suspected OKT clones, or if that is difficult to prove, a system for appeal of reinstatement of rep points after mass-zapping?

It's logical that we are using SBF for ease and convenience. It is also not a secret that prices here are slightly marked up from what we get from GL. If Samsters continue to get bad quality for marked prices at SBF, and the misinterpretation/fear of posting honest FRs is not curbed....

Possible outcomes:
1. Bros just go to GL en-masse. Cheap even after adding in the hotel fees, and we get live previews.
2. The genuinely good and reliable OKTs start their own private forums (which is already happening) and bros just go there for their contacts and bonks.

SBF is a great place to be. Why make it out such that only roberts come here for bonks?:mad: It's definitely a sign, seeing how my thread is the only one floating amongst the sea of promotions.

[zachknight]

The problem is the lack of honest FR. Like my friend, who booked this new girl Ada from A1, says she really cannot make it, much much older than her photo. Yet he doesn't want to post because he pity her if he post honest FR, then she may not make back her airticket $$

Thanks also to Twatman - i nearly booked Naomi too. Luckily his FR saved me. I had one bad experience with xiaobai's group before but not so jialat as Twatman, so be very careful when booking their stable - always misleading age and photo.

[minlow]

Dear all, I'm cannot apprehand the reason for this discussion.

First of all, I don't think there's any obligation to do business with the OKT when it's not what you want in the first place. If it's not similar to the pics given, just walk away, or call the OKT to change gals. Do note that since the pics are mostly makeover, do not set ya expectations too high. What I'm saying is you can exercise ya right if the gal is too fat or too old as claim in the pics. Do be fair to the OKT.

Second, if the OKT does not or cannot get a replacement, just walk away. Dun need to give the gal any $. Last time the reason we give $ to FL when we reject them is to pay for their transport. It's different cos we book hotel, then FL came and knock door. Open door, OMG cannot make it, give her $, ask her to leave. Now that we are the one going over, I dun see any reason why we should give them $. If the FL wanna demand compensation for watever reason, ask them to take from OKT. We are the one who should get compensated instead!

This will be wake up call for those lousy OKTs. Do not be afraid of being ban by them. Why patronise them if they cheat you?! We are spoilt for choice!

[Dark9]

Well.. i think the solution is simple. if you dont get what is promised, just walk out. I have had that happen once; fortunate i guess, the OKTs i use are pretty up front. But i have never gone back to the OKT who (in my opinion) tried to con me. NEVER. he will never be getting my money ever again, no matter how enticing the pictures he posts are. here's a tip, his gals always advertise AJ. u guys should know who.

if everyone does that... i guess he will soon be out of business.

and also, i dont give a rats ass about points and reputation and all that jazz. zap me, dont zap me.. so wat? can it make me even $1 richer or poorer? will it mean i have less gals to book? nope. so i say what i want to say; when i want to say it. no need to be afraid to post true FRs bros.

honest FRs will help us the consumer, as the OKTs will be forced to improve their service standards. even the OKTs i use know that i will not hesitate to post poor FRs if i think the session was lousy or bad in some way. if the OKT makes a mistake, i always point it out and i always highlight things that i think can be improved.

so guys, if a session was bad.. PLEASE post and say so. a couple of bad FRs are enough to make most of us stay away no matter how many 10/10 ratings are posted by clones.

the power is in our hands. remember, the customer is always right!!

Dark9

[SilverFox@]

Dear all, I'm cannot apprehand the reason for this discussion.

First of all, I don't think there's any obligation to do business with the OKT when it's not what you want in the first place. If it's not similar to the pics given, just walk away, or call the OKT to change gals. Do note that since the pics are mostly makeover, do not set ya expectations too high. What I'm saying is you can exercise ya right if the gal is too fat or too old as claim in the pics. Do be fair to the OKT.

Second, if the OKT does not or cannot get a replacement, just walk away. Dun need to give the gal any $. Last time the reason we give $ to FL when we reject them is to pay for their transport. It's different cos we book hotel, then FL came and knock door. Open door, OMG cannot make it, give her $, ask her to leave. Now that we are the one going over, I dun see any reason why we should give them $. If the FL wanna demand compensation for watever reason, ask them to take from OKT. We are the one who should get compensated instead!

This will be wake up call for those lousy OKTs. Do not be afraid of being ban by them. Why patronise them if they cheat you?! We are spoilt for choice!

Only once I rejected the girl and I gave her $20. But I know the OKT probably will not be happy with what I did as he could have get another booking, another customer who would not mind banging the girl.

There were that 1 or 2 times, I really open the door, see the girl and regret, but I still go ahead. I went ahead because I know the moment I pay the girl $20 and walk out, the OKT sure say

"Bro, buey swee leh, if I know llike dat, I would have put you on standby as there are other customers who want to book."

I pay money lor, I bang finish, pay her money, shed a tear(pay money and get raped), walk out of the room, come out write an FR.

I still think that there is no point come out and say let's all cheongsters unite, because basically people don't.
The only way is good, you come out, write a good fr.
If bad, come out write a real fr.

If the girl is lousy, u write 1 real fr, people read, let these people decide. Who knows there are people who like to pay money to bonk fat ugly girls. Maybe they everyday at home bonk a slim, pretty wife, want to come out play a fat, ugly girl, we wouldn't know too.

I only think that the people here are very willing to exaggerate their FRs at times and very unwilling to write an FR(when the girl is lousy) citing reasons such as scared of making OKT angry, or scared the girl no business.

Aiya, worst case don't want show nick, just create 1 nick and post a real FR. If people say you are clone, zap you, it's just a new nick, even moderated, the nick, the posting will still be there.

[SilverFox@]

Boss Sammyboy, may I propose a system for reporting suspected OKT clones, or if that is difficult to prove, a system for appeal of reinstatement of rep points after mass-zapping?

It's logical that we are using SBF for ease and convenience. It is also not a secret that prices here are slightly marked up from what we get from GL. If Samsters continue to get bad quality for marked prices at SBF, and the misinterpretation/fear of posting honest FRs is not curbed....


Sammyboy will not do this for you, because money talks for him.

If you got mass zap, the only thing you can do is to create a new nick and start all over again. Anyway a nick in sammyboy forum is worth $0, also can't sell for money. How good you post also no value added on your nick. Just do what you really want to do, time goes by, no one will be bothered to zap you.

[ht.drrk]

There is no way you can stop these studio pics from happening.

Because eventually, there will be people who bite the bait.

I second this . Men are Men when we come to sbf to view the OKT gals and what are we looking for are "Chio Pictures" or "Outstanding Pictures" Picture not outstanding we dun even want to click the rest of the pictures in the link. Then when we see a "Chio Picture" waah sibei chio, lanjiao stand ,fingers start to fiddle with HP to make bookings . And at times when we go in dont look same leh..who to blame? over the whole sbf we singled out our own gal le ..

[BroRock]

I second this . Men are Men when we come to sbf to view the OKT gals and what are we looking for are "Chio Pictures" or "Outstanding Pictures" Picture not outstanding we dun even want to click the rest of the pictures in the link. Then when we see a "Chio Picture" waah sibei chio, lanjiao stand ,fingers start to fiddle with HP to make bookings . And at times when we go in dont look same leh..who to blame? over the whole sbf we singled out our own gal le ..

WHAT??

Suppose I am an OKT with ten pictures of pretty girls, and all but one of them look like dogs. You pick one, tada, you got a dog. Surprise. It's your fault.

[littleworm]

Judging at other FRs, i always

Look : -2 from rated
Pic : +3 yrs old from gals
Skill/Service : Bullshit ... Can French ... no french ... Can CIM ... no CIM. think chemistry play a part + i no handsome

I only tried 2 OKTs so can't comment much. Don't worth the $$$, so no RTF to the OKTs ... Live pics ... knn don't think the OKTs can earn much if they do post. But i support live pics.

From live pics and price ... think thaiboy is reasonable ... didn't try thaiboy stable. Wanted to try petchara but too late. hahaha

[czj11]

After 8 months + of cheonging experience, I've learnt to ignore the studio pics. I just use them as a guide - nothing more.

I now rely on (1) FRs from certain FR writing bros whom I've learnt to trust for their honesty (and good taste!) as well as (2) OKTs whom I've learnt through personal experience to be honest and fair in their business dealings.

[rdips]

Bros,

Things are getting out of hand for the FL industry in S'pore.
Pictures posted looks different from actual person.
Age posted also different from real person.
(either u can tell from the look or the gal tell us honestly when asked)
Everyday the "Welcome to FL Dome!" flooded with FRs from OKT's clones.

I would like to make myself clear again, its not about the gals, its the OKTs to be blame, who is not honest in doing business.

Yes, we have the right to reject, i dun care later kena marked and cannot book the OKT gals again. There are many stables around nowadays.
But why go thru so much trouble like making a trip to the hotel, see the gal, different from picture posted, reject and walk away.

We can point out the OKTs who "ALWAYS" use this kind of tricks, he will CONFIRM have bad reputation after that. Bros here will sure think twice or maybe even no need to think at all and skip booking his gals.

On the otherhand, this will encourage good reputation OKTs to bring in good quality stuffs for bros here to enjoy.

We must work hand in hand inorder to stop this, especially in this kind of bad economy now. Those lousy OKTs, you know who you are, will eventually die off soon.....

[czj11]

We can point out the OKTs who "ALWAYS" use this kind of tricks, he will CONFIRM have bad reputation after that. Bros here will sure think twice or maybe even no need to think at all and skip booking his gals.

On the otherhand, this will encourage good reputation OKTs to bring in good quality stuffs for bros here to enjoy.

We must work hand in hand inorder to stop this, especially in this kind of bad economy now. Those lousy OKTs, you know who you are, will eventually die off soon.....

Bro, I agree with your sentiments - except that sadly, there will always be a stream of blur, newbie cheongsters who end up getting tricked by the overly photoshopped pics and fake FRs - although these guys may up swearing off that particular OKT, but there are always more "suckers" in the pipeline to keep that OKT in business.

How else can you explain that although there have been so many, many complaints by bros about this particular OKT, that he is still in business even now?

[rdips]

How else can you explain that although there have been so many, many complaints by bros about this particular OKT, that he is still in business even now?

Like what you said, "blur, newbie cheongsters".
But they choose to keep quiet even kena tricked.
Anyway they will sure "buay song", just like us, its time now to encourage them to point out those OKTs......

[czj11]

Forgive me for being cynical - but its also all too easy for an OKT who has a bad reputation to just change his name, website and booking numbers.

Not everyone is so attentive to pick up on the fact that the advertising style is similar (lots of mismatched upper and lowercase, frequently uses AJ as a hook, lots of fake FRs posted).

They would just see that its a new operator, hmmmm, the babe picture looks quite chio, FRs are positive, lets book, eh, same sleazy hotel, never mind, just go, arrive! basket, fat elephant, KNN, got "tricked" by the same fellas!

For instance - the OKT from hell who is the subject of this thread already has so many, many nicknames, affiliate forum sites, etc, that I can't keep it straight!

[snoopy75]

I have learnt not to believe those studio pics. There's only 1 or 2 OKTs who really can make it. Now i go Gl and the girls there beats those i patronised hands down in looks, im a sucker for looks:). I dont mind paying $200 for a pretty gal who have good services, i just cant stand those OKT taking me for an idiot lor:mad:

[fee3fow]

Book 1 time from this OKT from hell who is the subject of this thread NEVER GOING TO BOOK FROM HIM AGAIN:mad:. Saw the studio pic damn chio but went there KNS hour glass figure become water bucket chio bu face end up with a fat face and a scar at the lips there. Service is okay la but why the hell i want to pay $140 to have sex with a fat girl i rahter PCC at home. Should have know this OKT so many nicks so many affiliate forum sites confirm got problems 1. We should really start some thread and post out all this kind of things for new brothers out there so they dun get chop like carrot heads by this kind of OKTs.

[ht.drrk]

Check this out
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/welcome-fl-dome-free-stds-included/105358-marlboro1818-fr-identical-diff-gals.html#post3295465

[sexhorny]

walk away after seeing their faces

[coolstyler]

After 8 months + of cheonging experience, I've learnt to ignore the studio pics. I just use them as a guide - nothing more.

I now rely on (1) FRs from certain FR writing bros whom I've learnt to trust for their honesty (and good taste!) as well as (2) OKTs whom I've learnt through personal experience to be honest and fair in their business dealings.

Who are the certain FRs bros you trust and who are the OKTs whom' you've learnt?

[fee3fow]

Hmm i think we should start individual thread on all the different OKTs act like some sort of customer service thread in SBF. If not sometimes when we got negative FRs and post them in their forum they usually don't publish them only publish the good ones

[assky]

i think this thread should be preserved and work like a union for chiongsters to pen down their bad experiences as well as rude OKTS. naming out the names of the as well for benefits of everyone

[Respectpls]

Hmm i think we should start individual thread on all the different OKTs act like some sort of customer service thread in SBF. If not sometimes when we got negative FRs and post them in their forum they usually don't publish them only publish the good ones

post here, then there is no way they can 1 hand cover the sky. we should not start individual threads, but instead consolidate all the non-favorable FRs into 1 thread. so if anytime, anyone wants to bonk a girl, just bookmark that thread and see her name is in that thread or not. if in the thread and she is lousy, just skip her, if don't see her name in the thread, go and bonk, she is different from photo, then come back add a fr in that thread.
scared kenna marked, very simple, just create register 1 new nick, as membership in sammyboyforum is FREE:)

[fee3fow]

Wah if you really post the OKT and the girl name here because of bad service i think you confirm get zap like no tomorrow. Remember hor not all OKT have only one SBF account :D

[Respectpls]

Wah if you really post the OKT and the girl name here because of bad service i think you confirm get zap like no tomorrow. Remember hor not all OKT have only one SBF account :D

it is not advisable to do this. we should post all the truth and the real stuff. however we do not advise anyone to boycott any OKT. we show them the real field reports and leave it to their discretion whether to patronise the OKT again
i have just created a new social group, listed in my signature. bros, please join in and we start threads, discuss. if anyone is worried or scared being zap, you can PM me your info and I post it in the group. i will put you as anonymous.
if we all unite together, there is nothing to be afraid of. some people may worry, but if more and more people join, our group will grow and people will start to believe that this will work. this is a good method for OKts to buck up and improve and most importantly ensure that their stocks look like the picture. if not, they shouldn't blame us, but blame their ownselves

[sabaixxx]

I have learnt not to believe those studio pics. There's only 1 or 2 OKTs who really can make it. Now i go Gl and the girls there beats those i patronised hands down in looks, im a sucker for looks:). I dont mind paying $200 for a pretty gal who have good services, i just cant stand those OKT taking me for an idiot lor:mad:

I second that..just that sometimes pity the gals...i alreadu identified some OKT whose studio pics are WAY over-photoshopped.

[Respectpls]

i have just extended 30 invitations to bros here to join as friends.
we can discuss and archive these information in my social group listed.
good feedback reported on net, bad feedback must also be shared.

this is the only way to help OKTs have quality control as things have already gone out of hand.

[lollipop_eu4ria]

Hi Bros...

I read this thread with interest and some concern...while I understand where most comments are coming from and why....can i just ask 1 question??

Like mentioned earlier....registering a new nick in SBF is FREE...and easy. Wat if one fella for some reason or if one OKT is out to sabo another OKT and registers several nicks and writes several bad FRs.....how will Bros determine if it is a genuine FR/Real Fr or a case of Sabo??

And...coming from an OKT's point of view...yes, not all gals are angels...I agree.....but like wise...not all cheongsters are angels. I have encountered Bros in SBF that whack, steal or are rough to gals. So if gals react...they post a bad FR....wat is there to balance this? is there a mechanism?? There are always 2 sides to a coin.


Thanks

Bro Lolli

[SilverFox@]

Hi Bros...

I read this thread with interest and some concern...while I understand where most comments are coming from and why....can i just ask 1 question??

Like mentioned earlier....registering a new nick in SBF is FREE...and easy. Wat if one fella for some reason or if one OKT is out to sabo another OKT and registers several nicks and writes several bad FRs.....how will Bros determine if it is a genuine FR/Real Fr or a case of Sabo??

And...coming from an OKT's point of view...yes, not all gals are angels...I agree.....but like wise...not all cheongsters are angels. I have encountered Bros in SBF that whack, steal or are rough to gals. So if gals react...they post a bad FR....wat is there to balance this? is there a mechanism?? There are always 2 sides to a coin.


Thanks

Bro Lolli

Bro,
I respect you for your bravery because every time I see this kind of thread started, you are the only one or the very few operators who will participate. The rest probably chose not to see this thread. :p

Anyway good for them if they choose not to see, because it just shows they are probably not keen to improve.

Now back to your concerns, actually it is very valid to hear that creating of nicks. Creation of nicks can be used to abuse the system by writing fake reports, in most cases its fake good FRs. Your concern now would be fake bad FRs. I seriously don't think OKTs will sabo by writing fake bad FRs, because there utmost concern would be writing good ones to compliment their own girls.
There are many many many operators, sabo 1 girl, can they sabo 10s or 100s?

Example, you see the A4U Model Petchara came months ago, she got one of the most positive FRs I ever seen.
I think that 1 bad FR will be flooded by 10 good FRs because if that 1 clone write 1 bad FR, how many can he write to defeat the truth?
Operators will be most concerned how to improve the patronage of the girl if the business is no good, rather than crack brain write FR to whack another Operator. It's not like the whole market only revolves around that 1 or 2 operators, but we can easily see more than 10 right now.

As for not all cheongsters are angels, I also do agree. What goes inside the room we never know. And the girl may treat another customer better because of chemistry while treat another worst due to rough treatment.
But to be fair, when the girl gets robbed or got a free paying customer, I see operators post their nick and number out.

To be even fairer, why not the operator post all rough handling customers if they want since the forum is a free channel for people to post their likes, dislikes on the girls while the operators can do the same too. Anyway, since the operator post out the customer nick, I think he also don't want his business anymore. Likewise, the customer post a bad FR, he also don't want to patronise that girl again.

It is better to see 2 sides of coin, better than always being shown that 1 single side. :p

[czj11]

Like mentioned earlier....registering a new nick in SBF is FREE...and easy. Wat if one fella for some reason or if one OKT is out to sabo another OKT and registers several nicks and writes several bad FRs.....how will Bros determine if it is a genuine FR/Real Fr or a case of Sabo??

And...coming from an OKT's point of view...yes, not all gals are angels...I agree.....but like wise...not all cheongsters are angels. I have encountered Bros in SBF that whack, steal or are rough to gals. So if gals react...they post a bad FR....wat is there to balance this? is there a mechanism?? There are always 2 sides to a coin.


What is the check and balance against posting of fake negative FRs to deliberately damage business? First, I think that bro Silverfox's point is valid in that if a girl is genuinely good, then 1 fake negative report from a competitor will be offset by many positives from real customers. The reputation and standing of the FR writers should be taken into consideration.

However, I'm aware that the effect of a FR can be very powerful. For a "normal" girl, if a genuine customer for one reason or another (no chemistry, her look really not his type) posts a not-so-positive FR, this can affect her business to the extent that she can sit in her room swatting flies - customer flow only 1 or 2 a day until she gets sent back.

I think most cheongsters here are actually quite compassionate - even to the point of being overly diplomatic, as they don't want to spoil the girl's rice bowl.

Therefore for genuine FRs by customers, the balance is that the operator should be also weigh in and be given a chance to be heard. If an operator is really concerned about customer satisfaction, he will be monitoring the forums for all feedback - positive or negative, so as to improve customer service. And he should post his side of the story in the forum.

[kinggyman]

if bonk and don't like, just don't go back anymore.
if bonk and like, I will share with fellow bros here.

Bonking is just having fun... don't so serious.

[sabaixxx]

yeah i think we should have real independent discussion boards on these girls....even for my girls, I will not be biased and I will be very careful of the quality i bring in.

[tRuStNo1]

I oso have the same view...
Some of the pic really seem so different from live...

[makop]

If dun like just walk off , no point wasting time and fr
The current trend is that if post real FRs and the comment is good, competitors will deduct the points.
If post bad FRs, okt deduct your points.

That's the reason why we are seeing lesser and lesser FRs in FL Dome1, not worth the effort. OKTS themselves fighting against each other and dragging samsters in. So in the end just choose the okt that delivers and stick to them. FRs or not up to you, if you think you got enough points to tahan zappping then go ahead but one think for sure, FL dome1 no longer has the integrity for genuine FRs.

[ahyong]

i have just extended 30 invitations to bros here to join as friends.
we can discuss and archive these information in my social group listed.
good feedback reported on net, bad feedback must also be shared.

this is the only way to help OKTs have quality control as things have already gone out of hand.

Bro support u! just joined! :p

[doodlenoodle]

If dun like just walk off , no point wasting time and fr
The current trend is that if post real FRs and the comment is good, competitors will deduct the points.
If post bad FRs, okt deduct your points.

That's the reason why we are seeing lesser and lesser FRs in FL Dome1, not worth the effort. OKTS themselves fighting against each other and dragging samsters in. So in the end just choose the okt that delivers and stick to them. FRs or not up to you, if you think you got enough points to tahan zappping then go ahead but one think for sure, FL dome1 no longer has the integrity for genuine FRs.

Agree with you. Not only FL Dome 1. but FL Dome 2 has alot of fake FR. got a bad experience over there as well. FL dome 2 somehow, got no okt to control, therefore, there are alot of bad sharing as well

[peterparker89]

yeah i think we should have real independent discussion boards on these girls....even for my girls, I will not be biased and I will be very careful of the quality i bring in.

you are OKT? :eek:

[woshixiong]

Ok i personnelly dont really like to write FR. but since this thread is about this okt which i usual go. i think as a regular customer i have to step out here to say something which i think i will be zap for doing this . but to hell with the point.

Ok reason why i wanna defend this okt.

1) Is that out of 10 visit i only get disappoint 3 time. which i think its ok. given other is worst which i dont wanna mention name.

2) just go and check. all his thread. HOW MANY FR u see ? some even NONE ! only good afternoon good evening and even good morning. so what does this tell me ? those are really FR. or he just dont bother to fake FR ? u be the judge. for me i think its real FR.

3) When i always message him for reco. i will say i like busty. fair with AJ. sometimes u know what he reply ? "currently no stock like that leh"? or "no stock like that at the timing u wan leh." WTF ? he got business he dun wanna do ? or he just too rich ? u be the judge

ok this last point is what i call will offend alot of people one ^^ but like i say i DUN GIVE A DAMN?

WAH SUDDENLY 1 THREAD AND THERES SO MANY PEOPLE shooting this okt ah ? if theres so many people dun like this okt. i tell u this OKT can close shop already. like u guys said. so many clone so u guys be the judge.

i not this okt fren or his close fren. u dont believe pm me for my hp number or just check on my previous post. i have never writen any FR on FL before. its just my 2cent. cause i dun wanna see a good okt goes down the drain just like that. and all my point above doesent crash with the rejecting girl thingy i think its just so damn obvious who is the clone and who is not.

well my 2 cent again. hope it worth somthing

Zap me if u wan. star wars clone wars :D

[Respectpls]

i think the threadstarter started this thread not to condemn any girls but we chose from the pictures and when we go to the room, door open, the girl differs too much from the photo. his motive was to voice out and help people here not to waste time or money or even get disappointment to see a product that does not look like the photo. the social group in my signature has 12 members joining in and we already have 7 FRs not seen in public threads. let's hope more people can join in and we can all discuss.
OKTS are welcumed because we want you to see what we write and quality can be improved.

[Respectpls]

Ok i personnelly dont really like to write FR. but since this thread is about this okt which i usual go. i think as a regular customer i have to step out here to say something which i think i will be zap for doing this . but to hell with the point.

Ok reason why i wanna defend this okt.

1) Is that out of 10 visit i only get disappoint 3 time. which i think its ok. given other is worst which i dont wanna mention name.


hi bro, the purpose is not to whack any okt. but we must feedback on the difference between the photo and the real person, then whether to book the girl or not, we let the people here decide.
i believe the least that every okt should do is they must see the girl at least once live before send down singapore and not base on photo then send down. if not all the photos heavy edited sure can come singapore. then when door open, we kenna tua big time. its like you see the mary chia slimming advertisement. see the 'after' photo and when the room door open u see the 'before' person. no one can blame us if we post the truth, because only by doing this, then we can ensure that the okts do their part to qualify their stock before posting their photos. if not, how can they explain why photo and real person so much difference? they are the ones who posted the photo online. not us.

[woshixiong]

hi bro, the purpose is not to whack any okt. but we must feedback on the difference between the photo and the real person, then whether to book the girl or not, we let the people here decide.
i believe the least that every okt should do is they must see the girl at least once live before send down singapore and not base on photo then send down. if not all the photos heavy edited sure can come singapore. then when door open, we kenna tua big time. its like you see the mary chia slimming advertisement. see the 'after' photo and when the room door open u see the 'before' person. no one can blame us if we post the truth, because only by doing this, then we can ensure that the okts do their part to qualify their stock before posting their photos. if not, how can they explain why photo and real person so much difference? they are the ones who posted the photo online. not us.

I Understand bro im also a bonker like u all. but just look at the amount of people whacking this okt. u tell me thers no clone ? i dont believe. its ironic to say all okt using clone to post FR while some of his thread dont even have a single FR on it. its not fair to him.

True maybe there are people who have some unpleasent exp with him. but what the heck. can u name me 1 okt that u usually visit doesent disappoint u at least once or twice ??

San zai San zai. Nah mo orh mi tou fou.

[BroRock]

Good job, Bro Respect.

I was actually thinking of starting of new thread (sticky) in FL Dome 1, for the very same purpose you have in mind. Unfortunately, a combination of procrastination, lethargy and chionging activities have pushed this task to the bottom most priority. Somehow, chionging FLs always takes top spot :D

Might be posting another FR soon. Thanks to bros who commented on my earlier FR on Zen. Glad so many people found it hilarious :)

Bro, your group is great, but I had some difficulty finding it from the main page...only managed to link it from your signature. If that is the case, I'm afraid new Samsters, or even regulars browsing the forums, may overlook it.

Let's see how it goes first. Accessibility might be an issue.

To the previous poster Woshixiong, I am not out to target your favourite OKT. What we are trying to achieve here is greater transparency in terms of FL representation, which I feel is increasingly muddled. We're all here for a good time; why in the world would I spend more time typing in this thread than I would searching for my next bonk? The sooner I get off this thread, the better! Surely you do not think I am here on SBF to hone my writing skills?

However, it is precisely because I, and many other bros, have reached our tolerance threshold, that we have decided to stand together for the common good. In fact, I am not out to aim/blacklist/namedrop any OKT. I still want their business! I just feel it would be appropriate to have a thread/zone where bros can post their honest feedbacks without fear or favour, so others will not make the same mistake of booking the lousy FL experienced. This allows for a process of elimination whereby "not-so-good" FLs gets an earlier "discharge".

I have been mulling over the perfect way to do this, but enlightenment eludes me still. Issues I think about:

1. Some bros can be very subjective when it comes to comments. I really do not want a decent FL to be marked down simply because 1 person disliked her.

2. Bro Lolli rightly mentioned a possible OKT war with clones posting damaging FRs for his/her competitors. This is a very real concern. The last thing I want is for this to turn into a farce, with all sorts of fake FRs which we have no way of verifying.

3. I hope for the thread to be open and above-board. Ideally, both clients and OKTs agree that such a system benefits both sides. To be fair, I do not want to put anybody out of business. I still very much appreciate the convenience and discretion which SBF OKTs offer.

If anyone can think of any solutions, pls post.



P.S. Woshixiong, you stated that you are disappointed with 3 out of 10 FLs you booked. That is 33.3% of the time you are throwing money away! And, 1 time raped by a fat hippo, is 1 time too many! :p

[fee3fow]

Dun be offended Bro woshixiong there will be some OKTs that some of us dislike and some that dislike. I think the TS started this thread not because he want to target a single OKT but becasue he want to highlight some of the problems of FLing nowadays.

For me i started replying to this thread because i am starting to lose my trust in these FRs posted on the OKTs forum.There are only positive reports of the girls and no any negative ones. It is highly unlikely that all customers who try the girls are satisfied with her service. This is just like when a saleman try to sell you his product, he will be saying all the good things about that product. However, most of us wouldn't buy from him just through listening to what he say(except maybe my mother :D)most of us would properly do some research on our own to see if that product is really worth buying.

There is nothing wrong with the saleman doing this as he is just promoting his product. The same goes for the OKTs, there is nothing wrong with the OKTs for posting good FRs of their girls to attract customers as this is marketing.

i just hope that there is a place not control by any OKTs where bros can post their genuine experiences with the girls they have bonk and give potential customers a more clearer idea of what to expected from the girls and decided if they actually want to book the girl. Alot of brothers here are angry after the bonk because they read the FRs on the OKTs forum (write until all the girls are angels) but when they din get what they expect they become angry. It is not only about the money issue but we pay money to have fun and what is the point in paying money for sessions which make us angry in the end?

I dun think anyone here is trying to boycott any OKTs or his girls but we really need a forum/place that is free of OKTs control because only there can we see brothers genuine experiences with the girls.

[Respectpls]

I Understand bro im also a bonker like u all. but just look at the amount of people whacking this okt. u tell me thers no clone ? i dont believe. its ironic to say all okt using clone to post FR while some of his thread dont even have a single FR on it. its not fair to him.

True maybe there are people who have some unpleasent exp with him. but what the heck. can u name me 1 okt that u usually visit doesent disappoint u at least once or twice ??

San zai San zai. Nah mo orh mi tou fou.

actually, i don't really know which okt you are referring to as i think i only interested in the girl. maybe there are others who start to bring similar frustrations over. if you read what 1 bro wrote, he said if 1 clone write something bad, it will be overtaken by 10 more others who give positive reviews. so the good is more than the bad. if the okt is good, then we let the public decide by supporting him. in time to come, more people will start to post out the truth and we will know whether the okt want to take note and have more quality control or he wants to forgo quality control. we are helping him to improve

[woshixiong]

Good job, Bro Respect.

P.S. Woshixiong, you stated that you are disappointed with 3 out of 10 FLs you booked. That is 33.3% of the time you are throwing money away! And, 1 time raped by a fat hippo, is 1 time too many! :p

haha one man meat maybe another poison to me that percentage is ok with me anyway i have no issue on ur thread. after all its ur thread. and im just stating my view ^^ i have not encounter fat hippo before. feel sad for you bro

To bro Plsrespect thx for inviting me. great job i must say. :D

To bro fee3fow i understand ur point maybe i didnt type well enough


lets not try to kid ourself.

There is Clone
There is Fake FR
There will be more clone
There will be even more Fake FR.

[Respectpls]

Good job, Bro Respect.

I was actually thinking of starting of new thread (sticky) in FL Dome 1, for the very same purpose you have in mind. Unfortunately, a combination of procrastination, lethargy and chionging activities have pushed this task to the bottom most priority. Somehow, chionging FLs always takes top spot :D

Might be posting another FR soon. Thanks to bros who commented on my earlier FR on Zen. Glad so many people found it hilarious :)

Bro, your group is great, but I had some difficulty finding it from the main page...only managed to link it from your signature. If that is the case, I'm afraid new Samsters, or even regulars browsing the forums, may overlook it.



bro,
in the past a lot of people do not want to write negative ones. this is not the 1st time you bring out this issue. everytime the whole thing died down because no one start the ball rolling and no one want to organise. simply to say we are not united.now i start with the group, is to encourage people to mainly post the photo similarity from studio and the time when they see the girl live. we have no choice because we are not advertisers in this forum, so it is not possible for us to post so many links to the group.
we are not here to spoil anyone's business. we can post the truth in the group, as the time passes, more and more people will get to know about this group and people before seeing the girl they like and book her, will take a peek at our group to see some reviews which are not in the respective girl's thread. we also don't wish to spoil their business neither do we want people here to be cheated.
we just provide a place for them to read and decide whether they want to go for the girl even after reading negative pts. also if people don't bother to read what we post up, they have no one to blame but themselves for the info is free, just that they are not bothered to check.

[Respectpls]

To bro Plsrespect thx for inviting me. great job i must say. :D


lets not try to kid ourself.

There is Clone
There is Fake FR
There will be more clone
There will be even more Fake FR.

hi bro, i totally agree with you on the ones in bold. if everyone is united, the effectiveness of clones will be reduced.
if the okt bring 10 girls and 1 girl has bad reviews from many people, the okt's qc rate is 90%. if the okt bring 10 girls and 5 girls has bad reviews, then his qc rate is 50%. people will be wary to engage his girls, he has to buck up to improve his qc rate, if not his business will be affected., for us we just miss his girls where there are many stables. for him, he will miss more and more customers.
we are doing this, because it has been pent up in many people. its an opportunity for everyone to stand up.

[lawry]

I totally agree.

I have bonk tons of girls for many years...

BUT!!!!!!!!

I went to somewhere in little india hotel.. (a bad hotel)..
The girl name is Athene or something like dat..
picture looks damn solid! figure solid!!
140/2shot/90mins

FR
- Door opened, CHUBBY!! long nails not polished!! (WORST THAN GL $50 gals)..

I am a steady cheongster.. since its my first time take the girl from this OKT.. i decide to finish it off...

But really cant make it.. she gives me a blow and seriously no mood.. i HJ off...

I DONT EVEN WANT TO FJ HER!!!

This OKT share the same thai girls with 2 or 3 OKT....

This happen months back.. and i dont have time to post...

I JUST WANT TO SAY!!

OKT!! GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! If u cant bring in good girls dont bring!
If u only can bring worst than GL $50 girl go bring ur girls in the GL lane and sell them off for $45 per shot..

DONT CHARGE US $140!

What i can say is..

GUYS from today onwards if u see studio pictures.. DONT CALL FOR THE BONK! only take trusted OKT recommend by senior samster.

I recoomend - thaiboy
- BROS (I am his regular)

think abt it now and after typing it feel so du lan..
pay $140 and never FJ the girl!!! not because of no bullet.. because no mood - girl CANT MAKE IT..
:mad:

[Respectpls]

some of the discussions in our social group.
if you wish to read, join the social group in my signature.
there is nothing to be afraid of revealing the real field reports.

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Cream from A1sexythai,
she does not look like the picture. In real she is quite bottom heavy

Photo similarity, 60%
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Icey from sexythaiboobs
look:90% (seductive look)
body: slim,A cup
skin tone: tanned
bbbj:strong suction
service: sop
rtf: unlikly
she is on the time management,she will remind you half an hour left,10 mins left.she will stop on time
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Aimi from Prestige/Pentertainment
I tried Aimi some time ago, and let's just put it this way: The FRs with all the claims of her being "prettier than the picture" are false. The reason why the pics always show her mouth in a half open position is this:
When she closes her mouth, she resembles a chipmunk No shit. The lower part of her face is wider than her temples! At the same time, I find her rather plump. Service is so-so, nothing spectacular. I usually don't have chemistry with FLs I find visually unappealing, so not surprising that I left after awhile. Still paid in full, though.
Incidentally, her fees were raised on her 2nd return to SG. Wonder why.
The OKT, however, is very polite and obliging. Nice choice of 4 star room as well, in a location where you can be seen and no one will suspect you're there for "sexy time".
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Suvit from Dfantasy

Tried Suvit many many months back. She is short, small size but sultry. Beneath her small frame, she can really give a good massage. She will end your massage with a happy ending by riding you to cum.

Patronising Suvit will be like going to a tuina with special. Good massage, good sex, and in a hotel room, best part is 1hr30mins.
Priced @100

Oh, lastly, follow your style on photo similarity. She looks similar to that photo. 90-95% similar
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[MugenChicken]

Hi all,

I haven't been posting for some time now, and i also haven't been visiting FLs for almost a year now, but this thread has really caught my attention and i totally agreed with Brorock on this issue.

One OKT i really admire is Thaiboy who most of the time, post live pictures of his girls that he brings in. Full marks to Thaiboy who consistently does this over and over again and i just hope that some OKTs will just do the same thing.

I remember awhile back this arrogant OKT was requested by a SBF member to post some live pics of a girl and the OKT's reply was:

"When i post live pics of girls customers also walk away after seeing the girl, so post for what?!?"

[virginlovers]

how about pointing out certain okts in this thread and keeping this on top most of the time? that way samsters viewing FL Dome will not miss this and will perhaps think twice about patronising the said okts.

the okts, on the other hand if they notice a big drop in their earnings, they will have to overhaul everything they do and work harder in bringing in better gals in term of looks and service.

else i strongly urge everyone to simply walk away upon seeing the gal at the door if they feel she is not up to their standards.

[fee3fow]

how about pointing out certain okts in this thread and keeping this on top most of the time? that way samsters viewing FL Dome will not miss this and will perhaps think twice about patronising the said okts.

the okts, on the other hand if they notice a big drop in their earnings, they will have to overhaul everything they do and work harder in bringing in better gals in term of looks and service.

else i strongly urge everyone to simply walk away upon seeing the gal at the door if they feel she is not up to their standards.

True i think some OKTs are surviving on new samsters because they post very good studio photos in their forum and new samsters believe what they see is what they get. nowadays i wouldn't visit those OKTs even if they post lin zhi ling photo on their forum only go to the ones i can trust
help u push this thread to the top :D

[StevenGerrard]

Why so much trouble?
If u have doubts,dont book
Book from whichever OKT u trust

[lawry]

Why so much trouble?
If u have doubts,dont book
Book from whichever OKT u trust life so tough.. we work so hard to earn money.. why so trouble.. end life loh.. :cool:

Next time u something bad.. dont complain hor.. just let it pass k..

up this thread..

and pai seh..

the girl name is - Audrey...
chubby!!! and long nails no polish.. presentation is worst than GL $50 thaigirl..

[lawry]

up this thread

[lollipop_eu4ria]

Hi...

Bro SilverFox...thanks...but by participating I have been zapped many times....and I sure I dun have to say by whom.....

I read and participate becoz besides being an OKT...I am firstly, a cheongster too.....and it does not hurt to know wat Bros are looking for as it will hopefully help my biz (being honest here).

Now....while it does seem unlikely or silly that OKT will sabo OKT....trust me it happens:(. When I first started out...I could not take it as well...but it is something I have come to accept...some people just dun grow up.

Instances??

1. OKT uses some number to book (under his clone nick) for a few slots at ur peak period and does not turn up and does not even call.

2. If a gal has been in SG before under another stable....she sometimes gets sabo by same thing....people booking under some nick and never appear....thus making her lose her potential other customers (to punish her for coming over to the new stable??).

3. Customers write positive FRs for gals......kena mass zapped...by who? Dun need to say...so people start to fear posting FR...not worth the effort.

4. yes....one bad FR does not supercede 10 good FRs...so if the girl is good no fear....I agree in principle.....BUT.....reality of it?? Tat one negative FR is remembered and noticed and I have had seen such things happen before. Know how a goalie can make like 10 great saves in a game but just let 1 goal in....and people remember that goal.:cool:. if tat negative FR is constructive and true ...look by all means pls do feedback....maybe to the OKT first....so that we can speak to the gal and get her to improve. Matter of fact?? If one gal gets like multiple negative feedback....we would also not want her to spoil our narket image and at least for myself...gladly let her go before she does more damage.

I have joined ur social group...and I think its objectives are great...but like I said...there can and will be abuse of the system....so Bros should think of some checks and balances...and also....read everything with discretion.

Ok...said my piece....HAPPY CNY!!

Bro Lolli:D

[CeiResident]

Bro support u! just joined! :p

Aarchan Yong is back!!!!:D

[virginlovers]

Why so much trouble?
If u have doubts,dont book
Book from whichever OKT u trust

bro...it's not so much as booking gals from trusted OKTs. what is important is we must have a CASE like thread here where everyone will go to, to complain and keep us well aware of which gals not to patronise so other bros won't waste $$.
like Respectpls said...if more of us unite here or in his social club, it will certainly help check errant OKTs who are getting more and more arrogant.
FL Dome shold be about OKTs fighting to get business and give good service and not trying hard to cheat us samsters of our hard earned money.

[lollipop_eu4ria]

Aarchan Yong is back!!!!:D


LOL!!!:D U also back wat...so free ah...no Reunion Dinner ah??:p

Proud leh...never stay in touch.:cool:

[sabaixxx]

i agreew ith you...it shouldnt turn into another ala Sim Lim Square...where we kena ketok....

[allupato1]

Bro lolli,

No disrespect but do you really have hard evidence that it is your competitor(s) that is playing punk with you by booking all the peak slots and flying aeroplane or is it based on ur deduction?

[v4lkyr3]

real FR group people helps a lot by posting only truthful FRs. But I am thinking its only a matter of time before OKT clones somehow got into the group and upped the ante with their 'real FRs' that though may not be as real as REAL FRs (as they need to still make business) still distort the truth enough.

Though I am new at this forum and not yet had any FR, I do plan for some bonks soon and like I repeatedly told some samster, I hate to be disappointed and I am a tightwad when it comes to my hard earned cash.

Thus I am praying OKTs (particularly one that I will not mention here that I found juked fake FRs aplenty to nearly 90% of total FRs) takes some responsibility for their profession. Apparently there are some OKTs that took pains to post live pictures. I will drop by soon for a visit if I like the girl.

BTW. This maybe lofty idea. Including a fifteen seconds video clip should makes a real difference in between truth and illusion. I know that this idea will result in some zapping or upping.

But OKTs likely wont spend time and effort to edit clips frame by frame to simply sell a girl. Does not mean that OKTs cannot dress their girls nicely with make ups.

This is an extreme idea if live pics may even tell lie one day. Cheers people~

[Respectpls]

how about pointing out certain okts in this thread and keeping this on top most of the time? that way samsters viewing FL Dome will not miss this and will perhaps think twice about patronising the said okts.

the okts, on the other hand if they notice a big drop in their earnings, they will have to overhaul everything they do and work harder in bringing in better gals in term of looks and service.

else i strongly urge everyone to simply walk away upon seeing the gal at the door if they feel she is not up to their standards.

i am very fair and i don't want to be biased. we can feedback our experience based on the girl we tried and the okt stable she is from. that's about it. i believe brorock wants to create awareness. someone have to start to do the dirty job, and let everyone keep the momentum. we can share our experiences and try to post any poor experiences in the social group. we should also not go around the okt's threads and scold them or whatever because they are the advertisers of this forum and they are here to make a living. we don't go to a motorola roadshow n start condemn their products is lousy. we go to another venue and we explain why that product is lousy. if people still want to buy, let them go and buy it. let the people decide.

and we can all do our part to up this thread. and hopefully when everyone up this thread can add the social group link. i am the one who started the group, but the group belongs to everybody here.

[Respectpls]

True i think some OKTs are surviving on new samsters because they post very good studio photos in their forum and new samsters believe what they see is what they get. nowadays i wouldn't visit those OKTs even if they post lin zhi ling photo on their forum only go to the ones i can trust
help u push this thread to the top :D

actually i think posting studio photos are not wrong if the real person looks like the photo. but the problem is too many studio photos look diifferent when door open. there are some girls who look like the studoi pictures. i believe new samsters need help as everyone start out new before. if they benefit from us, one day they will share and benefit others, in return we also benefit.
new okts do not have many supporters. new okts have to work harder to win the hearts of people here. so if they are good, factual frs can help in their business. senior okts if they do not buck up, and service or quality control, they can only blame themselves for the state.

thks bro for pushing. if we all unite, this will work. i believe it will.
happy chinese new year to all brothers.

[Respectpls]

bro...it's not so much as booking gals from trusted OKTs. what is important is we must have a CASE like thread here where everyone will go to, to complain and keep us well aware of which gals not to patronise so other bros won't waste $$.
like Respectpls said...if more of us unite here or in his social club, it will certainly help check errant OKTs who are getting more and more arrogant.
FL Dome shold be about OKTs fighting to get business and give good service and not trying hard to cheat us samsters of our hard earned money.

bro, agree, every okt got good and bad girls. this thread is to help people here be more careful in their choice. Since the person is going to spend $150 to bonk a girl, he must look carefully and with a neutral group, their $150 will be better spent.
okts will improve their quality control if they want their business to prosper.

[Respectpls]

real FR group people helps a lot by posting only truthful FRs. But I am thinking its only a matter of time before OKT clones somehow got into the group and upped the ante with their 'real FRs' that though may not be as real as REAL FRs (as they need to still make business) still distort the truth enough.


don't worry bro, if someone goes to our forum post fake fr, and someone goes patronise it, their will be difference. the nicks can only do so much, but people will start to question post lousy photo is bad enough, now even have to resort to cheating. people will be more disgusted.

[phony]

Then everything will be never ending. Unless every1 stop partronised Sammyboy, den OKTs realise the importance of not cheating. & post live photo.

Business might go into norm mode again.

I realise 1 thing. Exoticunnnt never reply msg. Model Eva also had no FRs. How would i dare to book her?

[goodpartner]

Evergreen Topic :rolleyes:

Upz :D

One key point, something which everyone can really act on in a forum like this, is to encourage posting of FR, whether +ve or -ve as long as it's your true experience - leave the rest to the reader to judge whether it's real/fake and the reputation system will take care of it.

Bad FRs, as long as the mass agree it's true, will actually earn you more rep points overall (speaking from experience ;)). Same can be said about Good FRs, the community here will tell if it's fake and overall will not be worthwhile for the clones.

Short FR is better than no FR. If every bonk comes with it, things will even out. A few sabo/fakes won't tilt the masses' opinion.

Maybe we should discuss what's the REAL concern why people don't write or FEAR writing FR, and let's all find solution to alleviate those concerns/fears.

That's the whole point in having this FL Dome forum, differentiating the bonking experience from picking one from the street. Info sharing bros, just do it - stick you 2cts worth about your bonk, the one you paid hard-earn money on, in the threads of those Good Morning/Afternoon OKT threads! And everyone else who benefited from the sharing, be generous to upz/zap! :cool:

Happy Lunar New Year to all!

[ahyong]

If you have not done anything wrong, just post it out either is good or bad. anyway here is for sharing not zapping each other. Just post what u think is right. i am sure brothers here will have eyes to see who is right or wrong. And i believe honestly is the main point of doing business

Gong Xi Fa Cai :p

[fee3fow]

If you have not done anything wrong, just post it out either is good or bad. anyway here is for sharing not zapping each other. Just post what u think is right. i am sure brothers here will have eyes to see who is right or wrong. And i believe honestly is the main point of doing business

Gong Xi Fa Cai :p

Ya fully agree but we can hardly find negative FRs in this forum really a unhealthy sign:mad:. People can judge which are the good or bad bonk through the positive and negative FRs and not based solely on all the positive FRs by the OKTs

[czj11]

Maybe we should discuss what's the REAL concern why people don't write or FEAR writing FR, and let's all find solution to alleviate those concerns/fears.


Why people fear writing negative FR?

Maybe, bros are kind hearted - so unless they are seriously pissed off, they don't want to break the rice bowl of the girl or the OKT. They would just SMS the OKT to tell him about what he's not happy about. This won't help other bros though if the girl doesn't buck up or the OKT is unscrupulous.

Another reason could be that they are afraid of being blacklisted by that particular OKT.

[sabaixxx]

agree totally...

[evilsuns]

why not we just patronize those with live pic and stop patronize those with studio pic, that will end we samster issue. Even the girl look alike the studio photo, it won't take a million dollars or yrs to post live pic next to the studio pic. I'm sure if the goods is genuine why afraid to post live pic, we understand the girl may not be as pretty as the studio photo but we will still patronize if the looks is at least average and provide good service and attitude.

[fee3fow]

not a bad suggestion help you push the thread to the top and hope the OKTs read this :D. I am not really against studio photos but the bottom line is don't photo-edit so much (remove wrinkles, tatoo, flabby tummy,scars etc.)

[sexhorny]

just to tell u all

Dont find jane under D Fansty OKT

She is a dead fish


Pls reply to this forum ---> which FL we should not visit

[Respectpls]

why not we just patronize those with live pic and stop patronize those with studio pic, that will end we samster issue. Even the girl look alike the studio photo, it won't take a million dollars or yrs to post live pic next to the studio pic. I'm sure if the goods is genuine why afraid to post live pic, we understand the girl may not be as pretty as the studio photo but we will still patronize if the looks is at least average and provide good service and attitude.
the okts are having a fierce competition among themselves. so we are the lambs being sacrificied. however, its time to let them know that we meant business and with new frs that are not favourable, its going to hurt their pockets more than ours.

not a bad suggestion help you push the thread to the top and hope the OKTs read this :D. I am not really against studio photos but the bottom line is don't photo-edit so much (remove wrinkles, tatoo, flabby tummy,scars etc.)
bro, if no remove wrinkles, tatoo, flabby tummy, scars, then no need studio picture, phone camera can already. because studio got professional people editing photo leh:pkekekeke the okts are reading, most will ignore. especially those that have been using studio pics. from last time no photo, fl dome become got photo, now its up to us to change the standards from photo to updated real photos

[Respectpls]

a field report posted by one of the bros who joined our social group.

if you want to find out who she is, you can join our social group listed in my signature and you can read even more real field reports that we posted to help you in your choice.
this is something we don't get to read in the common okt threads
(PS: i am learning all this bold, colored patterns from reading all the frs and styles of the various okts, now i am applying it here)
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er wow.. and i just went for a session with her.. like 2 hours ago?!
to the bro that created this group: Damn good job! i Salute and respect you! Only regret is i didn't get to see this group and the thread you posted in FL dome in time. anyway here's my honest and fair FR.

Photo: Different. She is darker than the photo in the website
looks: so so only if i have to give points i'll probably give a 5. She has freckles on her face.
body: plump. period. and yes as above she has a tattoo behind her back tribalish kinda tattoo.
Attitude: Willing to serve to a certain extent. Allowed me to CIM after giving me a HJ but she does now have the GFE i'm looking for. Feels very awkward like i'm screwing her without her consent.
and yes as above again she does have hairy hands and legs and a slightly visible mustache.

[goodpartner]

Ok, a good start. These 2 are main reasons I guess too - more importantly, let's find some solutions for these issues...

Why people fear writing negative FR?

Maybe, bros are kind hearted - so unless they are seriously pissed off, they don't want to break the rice bowl of the girl or the OKT. They would just SMS the OKT to tell him about what he's not happy about. This won't help other bros though if the girl doesn't buck up or the OKT is unscrupulous.


So questions to ask ourselves:
- Is this the attitude we should encourage among bros here? I am in the opinion that in our FR, we can just state the FACTS from OUR perspective. If a bro have high-taste and pick on the gal, so be it. If a bro have special treatment from the gal due to chemistry, and posted high ratings, so be it. Just put a disclaimer or something - the rest of the bros here will read into it.

- Look at those sex141 websites in HK (e.g.) which are tarnished with advertisements that are super-edited-with-photoshop (95% of them), if that is the kind of "sex directory" bros want in Sg, then what for have a discussion forum (sbf)?



Another reason could be that they are afraid of being blacklisted by that particular OKT.

- Blacklisted by OKT? Then the more we should FR on it, if a bro think he is wrongly blacklisted, just support with a FR and voice out the "unfairness" if you want - these are FRs we need to assess the service levels too. Again, your FR are just your opinion of the OKT/service and the rest of the bros here can tell how much weightage we want to put on it.

- I'm sure there are many shops to patronize, unless you are blacklisted from most OKTs, that would mean something is wrong... Maybe get another phone number to book if you really like the stocks of the OKT who blacklist you?


And one more concern I believe is the afraid of being zapped. Afterall, points are still important in this forum to get good reputation for acquiring FL contacts and perhaps even join some OKT groups. You may get zapped by clones, etc., but you'll also be upz by thankful bros; overall it'll be a gain if it's the truth... and just take it that bros here can tell... lots of'em like to do detective work too :D (e.g. digging out all your old posts to check your rep) ... if we want. So clones can't go too far, even if one have an army of aged-clones.

One more possible concern is the afraid of writing itself... maybe due to language issue or feel inadequate after reading all the super flowery and powderful FR by bros who are well-educated. In this case, just the ratings will also help.


So, lets try to promote the habit, or even make it an unspoken rule, where every bonk should be accompanied at least by a SHORT fr. :p

[dominic7]

there is too much said here which i doubt anyone can do much about it.
i just hope that people will do themselves one favor.

respect themselves.
dun screw fuglies.
insist on your consumer rights.
everything else will work out automatically

[evilsuns]

upz this thread hope more newbie bro can notice b4 making a booking.

[czj11]

If bros are afraid of writing, maybe no time or intimidated by flowery FRs writen by others, one solution would be to have a standardized FR template. So if there is no time or no inspiration for long essays, you just fill in the blanks, give 1 or 2 brief bullet points and viola! You're done!

E.g.
Looks: x/10
Body: x/10
Skill: x/10
GFE: x/10
Attitude: x/10
Overall: x/10
RTF? Yes/no
One or two bullet point comments: e.g. Smokers breath, nice eyes, darker than pic, etc, etc

[Boarhead]

But yes... if this really keeps going on... we might as well walk in Geylang and choose.

I Agree with This.

[Intel Ops]

This problem had been on-going for years already. ;) Hope this thread stays.

[czj11]

One more reason why bros don't post FR is that they don't have the chance. I think that a lot of bros here are married personel. When they get home after bonking, may not have too much time to write and post FR. Some wait until OC shower or asleep. But still, to write the full FR takes time and effort. Not to mention the risk if your draft copy is not erased from your PC. Hence, I advocate just write a short quick one - only ratings and some bullet points. Can do it from your smart phone of blackberry quickly while in the toilet or waiting in line or on the MRT.

[ducatirs]

One more reason why bros don't post FR is that they don't have the chance. I think that a lot of bros here are married personel. When they get home after bonking, may not have too much time to write and post FR. Some wait until OC shower or asleep. But still, to write the full FR takes time and effort. Not to mention the risk if your draft copy is not erased from your PC. Hence, I advocate just write a short quick one - only ratings and some bullet points. Can do it from your smart phone of blackberry quickly while in the toilet or waiting in line or on the MRT.

Hi,

Bro, u r right. Its diff to post FR. Lucky my OC went her mum's place that i am hving a chance now. In office even worst! I work in a bank and really can't do FRs in office. Its really inconvenient for me!

I had my fair share of goods and bads too. Have patronise most OKTs and honestly no matter how reputable or trusted these OKTs are, its the gals that give bad services. With regards to photos, guess OKTs should put up the Live Pics instead. We should get them to adopt this so we really know wat we are getting into! At least we know how they looks.....Maybe we should stop patronising OKTs with no live pics.

Current times are bad and i fear patronising OKTs. All i want was to get a good bonk and made my hard earned money worth. In fact most times i am disappointed. 6 out of 10 are disappointments or just that i am plain unlucky.

Really hope for a change this year! Better Luck maybe? Anyway HAPPY CNY!

HUAT AR!!!!!!

[fee3fow]

In fact most times i am disappointed. 6 out of 10 are disappointments or just that i am plain unlucky.

Wah 6/10 :eek: quite bad leh

[Carlos_Santana]

Hi bros, join my social group below
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/groups/...d-reports.html
and we discuss and write down the real field reports. Only real ones.
If you do not dare to post the FR, you can PM me your FR and I put up for you in group w/o ur nick
[/B]

I have seen my fair share of groups.Opening up and starting with the intention of helping samsters. I do hope this is true. Not another OKT in disguise to gain more business.

Why should anyone be afraid to post FR? No one should have any fear to post FR. I am wondering How to determine that all FR posted are real in group? Looking at your signature of posting FR in group for others without indicating nick is already a loophole for fake FR. I am not saying you are fake. However, it will defininately looks fake without a nick.

I happen to pass by and leave a comment in which I feel is appropraite to ensure all is right and not someone with agenda in mind. No offence intended.

[mirage]

I represent a group of cheonster here who are not regular. I am a man with urge and need to release it, and coming here to look see and select one to let go this need. I dont write many FR, but I have fair shares of bad experiences, too many for me.

With limited vitamin M, always careful on selection, yet, quite often get disappointed by the real person compare to the beautify photo.

Since I dont cheong often, each time I cheong, hope to able select right choice. Likewise for other regular cheonster.

Here, I suggest we post the good and recommended OKT, by reputable bros here. Other bros can still choose the non-nominated OKT, taking higher risk.

With this good nominated list, risk-adverse bros can narrow down their choice more easy. Just my suggestion.

[BroRock]

Dear Bros,

Within the blink of an eye, it is already the second day of CNY. I was out of town, and the fact that this thread is still moving means we all have a common goal for SBF: To improve on the current FL standard, and to eliminate false representation. Either that, or we're still sick of fucking ugly monkeys.

There is talk bandied around regarding the reasons why bros do not post negative FRs. I find most of the points relevant, but that is inconsequential. The truth of the matter is this: There is hardly any stimulus/motivating factor to write FRs. Be it a favourable or a damning one, there just seems to be more cons than pros in penning a field report. A good FR might earn some rep points, and a bad one....might make life difficult for yourself. Most OKTs ask for the SBF nick prior to appt confirmation, and if you so much as type in anything negative after that, you might be closed off to future bookings. Some OKTs I'd rather not patronise, but in general, I still prefer the spice of life....that is, variety.

In any case, writing a FR takes time and effort. Even for myself, I'd prefer not to engage in this chore. Does it matter if my rep points range in the thousands, so much so that I can stake a claim to being the ultimate Godlike being of SBF? No, and for more reasons than one (other than the fact that Boss Sammyboy is actually that ultimate, Godlike being). Heck, I won't even be starting this thread if not for the fact I don't like to pay money and get raped in return. Pay money to get raped...now that's a new one :eek: Some OKTs try to promote FRs by offering free bonks, but it's not exactly my cup of tea. However, with such a decline in quality, even I am forced to say "nay", and start to kao peh kao bu. Writing such long, pensive entries takes alot of time, you know :(

Debate isn't going to solve anything, as many previous similiar threads have proved. Saliva isn't worth nuts, action is. Which is why I'm very glad to see Bro Respect start that group; in any case, it's called "better-than-nothing". In fact, "better-than-anything-I've-done-thus-far":o

Either on this thread, or in that group, honest feedbacks are welcome.

I would like to address the concern that the feedback channels may be abused by OKTs seeking to undermine one anothers' business. Verification of authenticity is likely to prove difficult. Much as I hate to see a OKT war erupt, I have to say that this is their concern to make things right. Know that as consumers, if we are pushed so far as to resort to this, we have no choice but to put the ball back into your park to sustain your own business and revenue. I am going to allow Darwinism to take effect here; if the OKTs want to snuff one another out with the clone wars and fake FRs, the loss is theirs to make. Either that, or you divert the efforts from sabotage to improving your service, making live pictures, bringing in better girls.....in a move I call, "staying out of the matrix". Once the OKTs realise there's nothing to gain by stepping on each other's shoulders, and seeing that OKTs who actually bother are rolling in the dough (or maybe even, their dough), will healthy competition reign. Cloning might kill some of your competitors' business, but it certainly is doing nothing to boost your own. Might as well divert the attention on how to cater to what Samsters want, am I right? Everybody wins.

Funny thing, isn't it? Just a few days back I posted my concerns about how to come to the ideal solution, and it turns out that the best way to to allow nature to run its course. Survival of the fittest, damn right. The only difference in the past was that we have allowed the OKTs to squeeze us and stifle our cries. With honest, unadulterated feedbacks and FRs, we put the fight back into our hands, and the onus onto them.




P.S. To avoid getting zapped, either post under another name (aka clone), or request someone else to post it for you under anonymous. Clone accounts are free anyway, so just create an additional one for the so-called honest FRs. Refrain from making multiple accounts, as we do not want to bog down the forums with unnecessary trifles.






BroRock.
恭喜发财,
越bonk越精彩.(in cantonese:D)

[northernrock]

I agree with the rapid pointing system. Even quicker would be to copy and paste the various fields from a previous poster and amend the scores according to your preference. A one liner would be always good to do a quick justification and this in all would not take too long. (Maybe 5 mins)

All in all, its down to a lot on whether would you want to disclose your experience also, many reasons for not doing so, and only 1 reason for disclosing, is to provide an awareness to the others in the forum. So its up to everyone to weigh the pros and cons.

Also another suggestion for some bro who has repeatedly not score a super SYT or GFE and is increasingly frustrated already, try out LOS, you can do your QC here and the selection is by comparison, I would say there are really good lookers here which I have not seen in Sg stables before. I assure you by then even if you chose the wrong girl, then can only blame ur own luck!;)

[lblittlebear]

Sometimes, it's difficult to post honest FR.

I'm speaking from my personal experience. I used to write FRs but seldom now.

Writing a FR takes time - writing a good FR does not necessary get you a lot of up points but the moment your FR is a honest one and paint the real picture, even if you're not complaining, the moment your FR does not exaggerate the FL to the sky, you could be zapped by many clone accounts

I just wrote a honest FR about a HC and was zapped like crazy.

Now you understand :D ?

I have seen my fair share of groups.Opening up and starting with the intention of helping samsters. I do hope this is true. Not another OKT in disguise to gain more business.

Why should anyone be afraid to post FR? No one should have any fear to post FR. I am wondering How to determine that all FR posted are real in group? Looking at your signature of posting FR in group for others without indicating nick is already a loophole for fake FR. I am not saying you are fake. However, it will defininately looks fake without a nick.

I happen to pass by and leave a comment in which I feel is appropraite to ensure all is right and not someone with agenda in mind. No offence intended.

[LeMoN]

I've been chionging Thai FLs for many years. During the peak, it was 2 to 3 times a week. Quality n FRs were good n genuine. There was only about 1 or max. 2 disappointments out of every 10 times.

However quality n service have been deteriorating, real-life gal is also way too different from the photoshop photos (description very fair n SYT, turned out that the gal is dark skinned n her age is 24 instead of the posted 20) . Service was not even close to wat some FRs have posted. Most of the time after every thing was done, I felt dat I should have PCC instead of wasting $120-$160 for the disappointed fucks.

Few months ago, I've switched to PRC FLs from FL Dome 2. Although most of the PRC FLs do not have photos showing their face, photos are "live" n FRs posted by bros are also accurate and genuine. Even FRs with looks 7/10 are much prettier than those Thai FLs with "9/10". Prices are reasonable with good service and attitude.

I won't be throwing my money at OKTs who do not know how to do their businesses. There are so many other options out there. So till they start to get things right again, I won't be patronizing them either. I rather fly direct to thailand since air ticket n accommodation is so cheap now.

[LeMoN]

... you a lot of up points but the moment your FR is a honest one and paint the real picture, even if you're not complaining, the moment your FR does not exaggerate the FL to the sky, you could be zapped by many clone accounts ...

Points may be useful to newbies but as time goes by, u will find that they are pretty useless. Anyway, if u are really so much into points, sharing nice photos/videos in the link/picture exchange forum or stories in the adult discussion can easily get u hundreds or even thousand points in a short period of time.

[BroRock]

Few months ago, I've switched to PRC FLs from FL Dome 2. Although most of the PRC FLs do not have photos showing their face, photos are "live" n FRs posted by bros are also accurate and genuine. Even FRs with looks 7/10 are much prettier than those Thai FLs with "9/10". Prices are reasonable with good service and attitude.

I won't be throwing my money at OKTs who do not know how to do their businesses. There are so many other options out there. So till they start to get things right again, I won't be patronizing them either. I rather fly direct to thailand since air ticket n accommodation is so cheap now.


Speaking of PRCs (on a side note), I wonder why there are no enterprising OKTs specialising in them. I have seen a few "trial-and-error" cases, but they all slowly died off. Honestly speaking, I'm not surprised since the girls look quite "chui".

I've been hearing so much about TAM and XTD and their way-hot hostesses; if only someone had the means to bring them to SBF and cut out all the drinking, KTV-ing nonsense. Maybe it's difficult to pull the wool over the mamasan's eyes? Come on, what won't a little money grease?

If not for the fact I find it troublesome to pm and beg for contacts, wait for reply, then call the PRC, then look for/book hotel, wait for her to come blahblahblah, I would already have gone PRC. Melamine or not. They're earning like what, $80-$100 a bonk for high-end ones? I'm no self professed sugar daddy, but if I'm paying $150-200 for a maid-like Thai FL.....OMG. Fuck this shit.

And....back on topic. OKTs, you snooze, you lose. If there's no improvement, and you continue to throw lard at me, I'm going Thailand. Or China. Or Zimbabwe.

[v4lkyr3]

Any1 thinks the idea of short vid clip works?

Editing frame by frame will make any OKT say KNCCCB for sure just to hide stuff not meant to be seen LOL~

Fear there will be one eruption point where there will be demand for the vid clip to be posted. No harm to throw the idea out earlier~

[loopjoop]

jenny2meet. not bad.

but prc still different from thai, vice versa. go for the one tht u feel price is justified bro. more happy tht way

[fee3fow]

I have seen my fair share of groups.Opening up and starting with the intention of helping samsters. I do hope this is true. Not another OKT in disguise to gain more business.

Why should anyone be afraid to post FR? No one should have any fear to post FR. I am wondering How to determine that all FR posted are real in group? Looking at your signature of posting FR in group for others without indicating nick is already a loophole for fake FR. I am not saying you are fake. However, it will defininately looks fake without a nick.

I happen to pass by and leave a comment in which I feel is appropraite to ensure all is right and not someone with agenda in mind. No offence intended.

yes i agree with you. The purpose of the group should be just to let brothers pose genuine reports of their bonks. We should not boycott any OKTs or recommend any OKTs to any samsters but should take a neutral stand.

[v4lkyr3]

yes i agree with you. The purpose of the group should be just to let brothers pose genuine reports of their bonks. We should not boycott any OKTs or recommend any OKTs to any samsters but should take a neutral stand.

Bro fee3fow

Unfortunately by writing genuine FR we are already indirectly implicating OKTs. Smarter OKTs (there is no need to say who, good OKTs knows who you are) will just follow the market and just breeze through. The rest will just continue with the bad business and receive more bad FRs and eventually fold.

Since it is already indirectly making a stand, might as well go all the way. Half hearted effort will receive only half hearted result which equals zero (I know this is fked up analogy, but put up with it).

v4l.

[BroRock]

Unfortunately by writing genuine FR we are already indirectly implicating OKTs.


Unfortunately, the reputation of OKTs is theirs to uphold, not for us to maintain. This is the consensus reached. For bros who want to stay anonymous to avoid point zapping, just use clone accounts to post. If they want to clone-zap us, we will just clone-FR them :)

Imagine if you are buying a Mercedes. Turns out you got a Proton instead, with two wheels missing. Are you going to keep quiet just so that the car dealer has a business to run? Even for something much cheaper, say a shirt, you would want an explanation for why it is defective/sub-standard. Bros have refrained from speaking up in the past for a variety of reasons, but I think it is time to voice out.

[v4lkyr3]

[QUOTE=BroRock;3426459]Unfortunately, the reputation of OKTs is theirs to uphold, not for us to maintain.

Dead on bro. They will start trying to uphold their rep if we keep on posting genuine FRs. On that matter I have nothing to add.

Cheers.

v4l.

[Respectpls]

This problem had been on-going for years already. ;) Hope this thread stays.

the problem had been on-going for years because we are not united. its time for us to take the intiative to keep it running.
as long as we start this social group strong, maintain it well, i don't see why this problem will not lessen.

[Respectpls]

I have seen my fair share of groups.Opening up and starting with the intention of helping samsters. I do hope this is true. Not another OKT in disguise to gain more business.

Why should anyone be afraid to post FR? No one should have any fear to post FR. I am wondering How to determine that all FR posted are real in group? Looking at your signature of posting FR in group for others without indicating nick is already a loophole for fake FR. I am not saying you are fake. However, it will defininately looks fake without a nick.

I happen to pass by and leave a comment in which I feel is appropraite to ensure all is right and not someone with agenda in mind. No offence intended.

i will answer all your questions after i go and catch some sleep first. eyes a bit tired after whole day out.
today if someone else starts the same thing, we start to question whether is this person another Okt in disguise to gain more business. soon no one will be doin anything and that is y okts have enjoy this freedom so far without anyone doubting them in public. i prefer to let people judge me when that day really happens that i am an okt trying to gain more business.

[Incubus_101]

Out of so many operators I had tried so far.I think Thaiboy aka Jack is still the better ones.

[ilovelife.now]

I appreciate TS.
Have booked from different OKTs but many of the gals look very different from what is in the pic! I once went to hotel 81 and found a very old, skull and bones lady.. it was wildly differnt from what i had seen in the fotos.

The one more thing is the fotos are very old - they were shot 6-7 years before and now we have a older version. WTF!?

Also appreciate bro lollipop's guts to post in this thread.
Hope to find a solution..

TC,

[Respectpls]

I have seen my fair share of groups.Opening up and starting with the intention of helping samsters. I do hope this is true. Not another OKT in disguise to gain more business.

Why should anyone be afraid to post FR? No one should have any fear to post FR. I am wondering How to determine that all FR posted are real in group? Looking at your signature of posting FR in group for others without indicating nick is already a loophole for fake FR. I am not saying you are fake. However, it will defininately looks fake without a nick.

I happen to pass by and leave a comment in which I feel is appropraite to ensure all is right and not someone with agenda in mind. No offence intended.
ok, now the reply to your post. if i am an okt in disguise to gain more business, it is very easy to kill me off. i just post a favourable field report in social group and people who read and try it out, finds out it is very different, then i will be judged by them. in return the hatred for that okt will be very great as he created more enemies than friends.
as for why anyone be afraid of posting fr? because some customers have been regulars. when they book a girl they have discounts. do u think you will want to post a real lousy field report when you receive discounts off the published rate from okt? i think you will say, nevermind, take it as a lousy bonk since the okt promised to recommend you a better bonk next time round. but it is the truth that the girl is really that lousy to get a lousy fr from that customer, because of the discount and the okt's assurance, he decide not to write the lousy fr. when the experience is good, no need to say, the person will post. Now what we want to see is more people to step up and provide more real field reports. once everyone gets used to reading more real field reports even stating the bad experiences ones, everyone will start to post good and bad frs and not just the good ones.

there are many ideas from many people, i only start the ball rolling when i see brorock's thread, because if i don't start, every good idea is zero if nothing concrete is done

[Respectpls]

New field reports posted in social group.
to find out who we are talking about, join our social group link in my signature, and you can read more field reports not posted in the various okt threads.
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look-70% (she look more milf,when smile rerminds me of belinda lee-big mouth small eyes)
age-27yrs(don't be suprise a lot of them are not same age as in photo's age)
body-slim
boob-c cup ( a bit sag)
service-sop
she is a smoker.
her greatest selling point to me is her massage.uses all her body parts(fingers,arm,knee,and even stand on top of you to massage)

rtf-unlikely(not my style
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er wow.. and i just went for a session with her.. like 2 hours ago?!
to the bro that created this group: Damn good job! i Salute and respect you! Only regret is i didn't get to see this group and the thread you posted in FL dome in time. anyway here's my honest and fair FR.

Photo: Different. She is darker than the photo in the website
looks: so so only if i have to give points i'll probably give a 5. She has freckles on her face.
body: plump. period. and yes as above she has a tattoo behind her back tribalish kinda tattoo.
Attitude: Willing to serve to a certain extent. Allowed me to CIM after giving me a HJ but she does now have the GFE i'm looking for. Feels very awkward like i'm screwing her without her consent.
and yes as above again she does have hairy hands and legs and a slightly visible mustache.
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[evilsuns]

upz this thread again.

[fee3fow]

can see more members are joining the group keep it up :D

[sabaixxx]

I am glad someone started this thread..I am speaking in the capacity of a cheongster rather than a service provider-to-be. I have my share of bad encounters with mis-matched FLs,especially on the "FAIR" part...becos usually when they say "FAIR", they mean "FAIR"-er than usual thai..so to us is only tanned..and sometimes, the gals looks different...i hope to have both studio and live pics...

[Respectpls]

I am glad someone started this thread..I am speaking in the capacity of a cheongster rather than a service provider-to-be. I have my share of bad encounters with mis-matched FLs,especially on the "FAIR" part...becos usually when they say "FAIR", they mean "FAIR"-er than usual thai..so to us is only tanned..and sometimes, the gals looks different...i hope to have both studio and live pics...

I haven't hear before any OKT say, my girl is not pretty, my girl skills lousy, my girl body not nice, my girl cannot give girlfriend treatment. their SOP template is very beautiful, very good service, very slim, very big breasts. so we must not believe what they say 100%. only if you are regular, but even if you are regular, sure will miscue once or twice

[sabaixxx]

I sure did mis-cued around 3 times...even as a regular and having a keen eye for details for photoshopping did help me escape a couple of times from the lousy ones. But the angle that the photo is shot really can change a look of a person..is beautiful = stunning, waist smaller than hips = very slim, not beautiful = cute, fat = voluptous.. i hope i am not offending anyone by joining this thread though...but i hope to be able to input my sex-perience down after so many years of cheonging. The best thing to do is only get the good ones...dun bring the lousy ones..if one is too lazy to go thru the trouble to do a QC, then i dun think he/she deserve to earn that money...in business, must be a win-win -win situation for all parties. agreed?

[Respectpls]

I sure did mis-cued around 3 times...even as a regular and having a keen eye for details for photoshopping did help me escape a couple of times from the lousy ones. The best thing to do is only get the good ones...dun bring the lousy ones..if one is too lazy to go thru the trouble to do a QC, then i dun think he/she deserve to earn that money...in business, must be a win-win -win situation for all parties. agreed?

You a regular also can miscue, most newbies sure miscue.
the problem is quite a lot of okts don't deserve to earn this money.

[evilsuns]

time to up the thread, make sure it stays on top. I agree most okt dun deserve to earn the money.at least we can browser the girls b4 we upz in geylang and at a better rates for 2 shot.

[fenwick]

i should say most of the time..90% of the time..the gals are really up to standard...i see bros here whinning about the quality of the gals , makeover photos and wanting live pics...my piece of advice

NO OKTs will let anyone bad mouth their gals let to say post negative FRs....
come on lah...for a mere $100 ~$150 over 90 mins including 2 shots what do you expect?these gals are also here to * tan jiat* make money for debts and school fees or simply just to make a living..so don't be too hard on the poor gals and their OKTS.the gals espically, already have to leave home to make a living...somemore in this line...very cham already.



Well, i have to agree on this with you bro.:cool:

[woshixiong]

time to up the thread, make sure it stays on top. I agree most okt dun deserve to earn the money.at least we can browser the girls b4 we upz in geylang and at a better rates for 2 shot.

Dont mind me saying since u hate okt so much why are u still here o.0? without them. do u think u can get girls ? without walking in geylang area with lots of uncle auntie looking at u with the thoughts of Oh.. another horney ass coming to release ?

As Ts and many many bros already say this thread is not a thread for starting a war with okt. but infact letting them know what we think. pls do more reading then to put these type of they dont deserve to earn that money.. remarks again

All are earning a living who are u to say they dont deserve such money ?


i agree with bro tzaroff1234 golden remarks

No body can force you to dial or SMS them...you do it willingly.
If You want to "see" before trying...go Geylang...plenty for you to choose then try.

thumbs up :D

[Respectpls]

NO OKTs will let anyone bad mouth their gals let to say post negative FRs....
come on lah...for a mere $100 ~$150 over 90 mins including 2 shots what do you expect?these gals are also here to * tan jiat* make money for debts and school fees or simply just to make a living..so don't be too hard on the poor gals and their OKTS.the gals espically, already have to leave home to make a living...somemore in this line...very cham already.
I mention 90% the time the gals are up to standard...meaning up to my markdown image standard...the 10% are the suay suay time...very rarely but still happen..but sometime you also struck lottery...like my experience with one of para bro recomendations....she is model class standard..so thats like striking 4D.


bro, how do you feel when you have a lousy bonk? do you think it is money well-spent? when you come out of the room what kind of expression did you experienced?
1) :)
2) :o
3):(
4) :mad:
if you pity the girl because she has to sell her body, do you still rtf her to help her increase her income?

maybe $100-$150 means nothing to you.
i have nothing against okt and i don't think we should pity her just because she is poor. poor people also have dignity and do not resort to cheating. if you use a beautiful photo to deceive people that you are beautiful, when you are not, i think it is bad


Last but not least...even bad gals have good points and good gals have bad habits...so in your FRs just highlight their good pts. You dun lie and everyone has a happy ending.

why withhold the truth? The next person who go in expecting something and did not get it will not have a happy ending

[fee3fow]

ya bro FR should be honest reports and not contain only good point only. What is the point for a FR if it only states good points and cover up the bad points :confused:

[max1970]

Yep agree..here too!

Prices have been way, way out...and clearly this 'activity' has also become another victim of the so-called 'financial crisis' (which in simpler terms is just what happens when people who should stay home or who should forget about starting a business with no unique service are given money they can't pay back).

150 deserves premium honey! Not rubbish. I do hope that in anycase prices settle at around 100 bucks..why?? well....

I was visiting Europe this christmas (location isn't important but I can assure not some ex-soviet block farming country..haha) and there was 'everything' to choose from..no hotel story in geylang or some other sleazy area (private apartments!!!) or prebooking etc...just make a call and fix a time..even 20 minutes later! There were babes from czech rep., romania, spain, brasil, colombia..even thais and chinese!!...On the various websites hosting the pics they have the decency to put updated pics without all this 'whitening'..aka 'fair' complex. The damage? around Euros 60 (120 sing) for one shot and without looking at the clock?!?!?...which is what we get damaged over here..and in many cases just for some fat, ugly and maybe even infected mama.

Ofcourse cultures differ and there is no 'catbath' but shower (which I couldn't care less for..I'm going to bonk not relive my days with the nanny) and in more and more cases..NO BBBJ..which is a downer :( but hey it's been proved that STD's can be passed on as easily as doin' it (even if you do it with the hot water thingy...LOL). But the thing that struck me is that these gals are creative..they dance for ya..striptease! like get bonked in front of the mirror! and in a few cases I offered 20 euros more and got another bonk :eek:....sure beats the standard catbath, ah-ah-mm-mm bonk..thats what I call creative marketing..haha.

I'm looking forward to going back in August because 7 out of the usual 10 chicks are what most of the chiongers here would call 'model type' :eek:.

So..lower those prices and give us the goods.

Goodluck to all and a healthy and safe new year...money's always number 2. :)

[fee3fow]

Well for me my excepted price is $120-$130. Those OKTs that charge higher ($140,$160) must ensure that the girls are above the edge over those $120,$130 girls. If not brothers who go there are just wasting your money.

[Respectpls]

Well for me my excepted price is $120-$130. Those OKTs that charge higher ($140,$160) must ensure that the girls are above the edge over those $120,$130 girls. If not brothers who go there are just wasting your money.

i don't mind paying, but if i pay $150, i must get a girl who looks better than 1 i pay for $120. most of the time, when i pay $150 up, i got a girl who looks even worst than $120. this is wasting money for sure.
another one is when i patronise the girls who offer anal jamming supposedly by what okt said. most of the time go, they say cannot, i ask is it because of size, they say no, they say they did not agree to do anal jamming and got 1 girl even tell me, if okt write anal jamming, go and jam his anal not hers, if okt say CIM, and she don't do, please shoot into his mouth. :eek:

[huskypower]

I've been chionging Thai FLs for many years. During the peak, it was 2 to 3 times a week. Quality n FRs were good n genuine. There was only about 1 or max. 2 disappointments out of every 10 times.

However quality n service have been deteriorating, real-life gal is also way too different from the photoshop photos (description very fair n SYT, turned out that the gal is dark skinned n her age is 24 instead of the posted 20) . Service was not even close to wat some FRs have posted. Most of the time after every thing was done, I felt dat I should have PCC instead of wasting $120-$160 for the disappointed fucks.

Few months ago, I've switched to PRC FLs from FL Dome 2. Although most of the PRC FLs do not have photos showing their face, photos are "live" n FRs posted by bros are also accurate and genuine. Even FRs with looks 7/10 are much prettier than those Thai FLs with "9/10". Prices are reasonable with good service and attitude.

I won't be throwing my money at OKTs who do not know how to do their businesses. There are so many other options out there. So till they start to get things right again, I won't be patronizing them either. I rather fly direct to thailand since air ticket n accommodation is so cheap now.


Hi Bros whao long discussion, like what our bro here say just do not patronise the OKT that is not sincere, we cannot change the world but we can change ourself to be happier.

That are too many newbies coming out everyday and the girls have limited working hours at most 8 customer a day and there are imited girls in the market say many 20? or less may we do some simple math 8 customer per girl and 20-30girls in the market that is 240 customers per day

Do have only 240 new customers per day?

I doubt so and therefore the OKT will focus on fast money and not quality money to retain old customers, and quality will fall drastically.

When I cheong a few years back not so many OKT and the this forum is not popular, quality is super super good.

Now so many OKT at least 10 and counting each day, they need to make fast money if not they cannot survive.

Dear bros! we need to exercise our consumer rights.

Enjoy this forum and let the boking be enjoyable:)

[huskypower]

I tried many OKT some are still around today some have left.

There are good and bad, studio pic is the 1st step we take to determine how we like the girl, and then follow by the short intro by the OKT and finally the FR for the girls.

Sometimes the OKT recommendation will also determine our choice.

Studio Photo are the packaging and the packaging needs to be attractive.

Reputation of the OKT the brand and brand determines the brand power.

We hope we can choose wisely and sometimes when our small head takes over the big head no harm let it loose

enjoy bros and have a wonderful new year!:D

[alien69]

Bro husky.. u got me blur...

Recommendations?? all sales man sure say their prdoucts is good ,best service..

Fr: mostly by clones or my some kindhearted guy that give a perfect 10 for everything.

so now seriously we can only believe less than 50% of what the frs say...depends on own judgement la...:)

[fee3fow]

Hmm... why i can't seems to be able to access the group anymore :confused: is it due to my points?

[~oyster~]

I reaaly read with imense interest in the discussion.As a neutral party I start to queston myself the following points :

1 ) Why is somebody so bent on discussing about true or false frs?

2) Why is that somebody being a newbie seemede to know what is a tru or false fr ?

3 ) Why is someone having a bad experince is willing to share an honest fr but got zapped badly ?

4) Why can't we just learn from experince and be wiser the next time we choose the next gal to bonk?

5 ) Why complain about pricing ? As cheongster we have the right to choose which price best suit for us. Nobody force us to choose the higher price.

6 ) If cant afford to bonk premium bonks then go bonk cheaper ones.

7 ) Why was so much bandwidth on this thread ?

8 ) Why can't there be healthy competition among the okts ? Whoever okts can deliver the best service ; price & quality will surely win the support of genuine cheongsters here .

Just my 2 cents worth.

[Respectpls]

Hmm... why i can't seems to be able to access the group anymore :confused: is it due to my points?

i also don't know about it bro. i have just pm sammyboy. waiting for his reply. i guess the whole group could have been deleted by moderator or whoever. :(maybe too much real things inside.

[kogi]

Don't be surprised if this thread also disappears. In the past when people started threads about getting OKTs to post real pictures, the moderators let the threads run for a few days for people to let off steam. Then it's back to business as usual after the moderators deleted the threads. OKT unable unwilling & uninterested in matching reality with the customers expectation built up by the pictures. 8(

[EtherC]

BroRock, commercial sex is just commercial sex. You attach too much emotions and significance to it. I'll cite you a case: Was looking for something new one evening. Called up an OKT and he recommended this Girl A. Went to the 4* hotel and took a look. Turned out to be a ktv girl known as M in another OKT's stable. I rejected the girl as I had fucked her before. Not that her service was bad or she looked terrible( tanned B cup, very leggy, offered french kissing & good BBBJ). She just wasn't the type I wanted to bonk that evening. Of course the girl was so pissed as she had called me earlier wanting me to rtf. I rejected and lied that I was busy. When she saw me her face turned black but I just stayed in her room as I waited for the OKT to arrange for another girl. After 2minutes she chased me out saying she had a customer coming. Eventually after rejecting yet another girl I got a good deal with a girl S who was what I was looking for that night(big boobs, pretty and fair). Having been offered such good service I reciprocated by booking 2 mind blowing sessions and writing a good FR. Its all about you pat my back I pat yours.

Wanna cheong don't be so wishy washy worry about this or that. You're the customer so act like one. If the OKT can't service you, look for one who can. And please don't tell me all the OKTs out there offer deplorable service. If I can make the OKT provide 3 viewings before deciding on which girl so can you. The FL market is illegal, and you expect quality regulation of sorts? Realize that you're the BOSS. You regulate the quality. Why is your skin so tender, be thick skinned! There are tons of girls out there so you won't ever run out. Communicate with the OKT, once they understand your taste they will provide better service. I even had OKTs requesting post coitus comments. So trust me there are good OKTs out there with a good service attitude.

Don't worry excessively. Good luck!

While I understand that you are advocating buyer's rights with your analogy (which of course I agree with), there are some facets of your analogy which are flawed.

[fee3fow]

well the OKT do pay the mod to advertise in a so dun be surprise if the mod listen to the OKT (mod are also human being and they need to earn money also)

[evilsuns]

Don't be surprised if this thread also disappears. In the past when people started threads about getting OKTs to post real pictures, the moderators let the threads run for a few days for people to let off steam. Then it's back to business as usual after the moderators deleted the threads. OKT unable unwilling & uninterested in matching reality with the customers expectation built up by the pictures. 8(

lolx....maybe one day when all bros stop coming to sbf fl dome forum due to unhonest okt and skyrocket price result in less traffic lead to less advertisement then to less $$$ then we maybe see changes in standard.

[evilsuns]

woah....just notice i have been zapped (1st time since i join sbf till now, i hope we can see who zap us as a new forum function,if not we killed by who oso dunno) due to being honest and voice out cos of lousy and irresponsible okt. Well zap all if you want all the clone okt in this thread not like being zapped i lose a hundred dollars, but i have something to say GROW UPZ stop wasting your time here zapping ppl instead try to improve your services, standard and quality.

[evilsuns]

last but not least, hopefully our dear admin can do something about it cos more ppl is abusing the points system, being in the 1st place points system is suppose to be upping those bro that is honest and truthful and zap those which is unhonest and creating nuisance here but from what i see now is the other way round, most honest bro get zap and those okt clones get uppz by their own clones or other okt affiliates.

[evilsuns]

well the OKT do pay the mod to advertise in a so dun be surprise if the mod listen to the OKT (mod are also human being and they need to earn money also)

i guess there are still tons of good okts around waiting to advertise.:)

[evilsuns]

Dont mind me saying since u hate okt so much why are u still here o.0? without them. do u think u can get girls ? without walking in geylang area with lots of uncle auntie looking at u with the thoughts of Oh.. another horney ass coming to release ?

As Ts and many many bros already say this thread is not a thread for starting a war with okt. but infact letting them know what we think. pls do more reading then to put these type of they dont deserve to earn that money.. remarks again

All are earning a living who are u to say they dont deserve such money ?


i agree with bro tzaroff1234 golden remarks

No body can force you to dial or SMS them...you do it willingly.
If You want to "see" before trying...go Geylang...plenty for you to choose then try.

thumbs up :D

well i dun hate okt, instead i still do booking with some okt (sincerely and i do feel like a customer, unlike some okt i pay him his salary yet i'm treat like an asshole ) which i rtf alot and by the way those in geylang oso call okt. just hate to be cheated, studio pic already enough now still flooded with clones okt writing their own 10/10 FR.

[evilsuns]

Dont mind me saying since u hate okt so much why are u still here o.0? without them. do u think u can get girls ? without walking in geylang area with lots of uncle auntie looking at u with the thoughts of Oh.. another horney ass coming to release ?

As Ts and many many bros already say this thread is not a thread for starting a war with okt. but infact letting them know what we think. pls do more reading then to put these type of they dont deserve to earn that money.. remarks again

All are earning a living who are u to say they dont deserve such money ?


i agree with bro tzaroff1234 golden remarks

No body can force you to dial or SMS them...you do it willingly.
If You want to "see" before trying...go Geylang...plenty for you to choose then try.

thumbs up :D

Ya, you already said all are earning a living,i oso earn a living and use my hard earn $$$ to enjoy myself and give okt, but the problem is too much markup photoshop pic and too many fake fr mislead us then is not call earn a living liao and called con for a living or cheat for a living and and just like you bought a iphone online posting real iphone photo yet when you receive it,inside the REAL iphone box is actually a FAKE iphone alike made in china, paid so much yet get a substandard phone how disappointed. Worst till SOME okt attitude down to the drain.

after all so much is said, i still must say there is a few good ones around, to all bros out there sometimes no fr is good fr.

[goodpartner]

BroRock, commercial sex is just commercial sex. You attach too much emotions and significance to it.

I think the argument is getting sidelined with such points, which is well said, but I think the gist of what bro BroRock is trying to promote aligns well with the ORIGINAL intent of this very forum - I'm not sure if that intent has changed or changing overtime though.

Correct me if I'm wrong: The owner of this forum started it so that bros can share what's good and what's not out there in the commercial sex scene. (I read this from one of the interview report or something)

Of course, with OKT's advertisements as one source of revenue for the forum (happen in the past year or so, with banners and ads sprouting out) will invariably mean protecting their (the forum's real paying customers) interest a bit lor :rolleyes:

Perhaps the forum should start accepting donations in general, such that when that revenue surpass that of advertisers, the "users" here can request features to be added that'll eliminate clones, multies behind proxies, and implement things that'll make the forum more conducive in sharing truthfully.

* Heck, I'm learning much from how Viva-Ponata game police their member-base...LMAO :D

[fee3fow]

Well the forumer starting intent might be for brothers to share what is good but as the population grows in this forum, the OKTs pay to advertise, the forum might be in favor of the OKTs. Unless there are other source of advertisement for income, i doubt this forum will take a neutral stand between brothers and OKTs

[fee3fow]

Oh ya i am not talking about those small OKTs i am talking about these big OKTs ones. They are big corporations with a strong flow of capital and can manipulate the market and its prices. If you think an OKT pricing is not right you can always go to another one. Advise to all new cheongsters is this is not GL, dun always believe what you see. you may think it is worth paying $160 to bonk a model-like FL but if the FL turn out to be of the same standard (or even worse) then those at GL, I think you all will know where to go for your next bonk :D. It may take some time scouting around GL, but as some brother say, you get what you see. You may not know how good is their service but with some OKTs writing their own FR here, the service of their girls have not much credibility either.

[EtherC]

Change is the only constant. I do agree that the influx of too many paying OKTs actually brought the quality of this forum & OKT services south but since its a privately owned forum its all within the owner's right and privilege to accept $ and pander to his customers. It was easier for us seniors back then who migrated over from the old delphi forum which was not as commercial.

The best thing to do no matter what is still to be decisive about our choices as we are the market. Sam has already put up 2 FL sections. You can see FL Dome 1 is flooded with adverts while FL Dome 2 is largely made up of contributing bros. Of course the OKTs will have clones to zap or get the admin to remove certain threads. I mean hey they are the paying customers. Unless you want to make this a paying site.

A donations button is a good suggestion, but I doubt I would click it. I like Sammyboy forum but if you ask me whether I want to pay a subscription to read the whinings of hooker romeos I say I'd rather buy a good novel or watch a movie. My advice to younger cheongsters sick of OKTs is to use your powers of observation. You can actually cut out the middleman if you know where to look and at the right timing. Walk around SG, its seriously teeming with hookers. I believe I did a rough approximation of PRC hooker numbers in another thread and that does not even include the Columbians, Eastern Bloc girls, Thais, Viets etc.

I don't want to break the business of the OKTs or give the blue boys a free tip so I won't say where and when exactly. Also identify the actively contributing senior bros, if you're cordial I'm sure people will share contacts. The resources are available, it depends on whether you wanna network, gather a little intel and construct your own little black book of FL contacts(which will propagate itself if you're a cool customer). React instead of sitting there growling and expect change to be implemented by others. Apparently OKTs & Sam are doing well and happy so why do they need to change?

I think the argument is getting sidelined with such points, which is well said, but I think the gist of what bro BroRock is trying to promote aligns well with the ORIGINAL intent of this very forum - I'm not sure if that intent has changed or changing overtime though.

* Heck, I'm learning much from how Viva-Ponata game police their member-base...LMAO :D

[alien69]

Whatever the case , i giving up on "INTERNET girls" .
Most of the time, It is disappointment..

Migrating to Vietnamese girls in Pubs and China Street walkers. At least most of the time damage is 100. (1 good shot is enough for me)

As for thai girls, I will go BKK and find...(at least the girl only have 1 customer a day, not like internet girls who are MASS-PRODUCTION workers.)

[Respectpls]

I don't want to break the business of the OKTs or give the blue boys a free tip so I won't say where and when exactly. Also identify the actively contributing senior bros, if you're cordial I'm sure people will share contacts. The resources are available, it depends on whether you wanna network, gather a little intel and construct your own little black book of FL contacts(which will propagate itself if you're a cool customer). React instead of sitting there growling and expect change to be implemented by others. Apparently OKTs & Sam are doing well and happy so why do they need to change?

last time no advertisements, the forum depends on traffic, fls come in, traffic goes up, sam collect adverts, okts have to pay.
okts pay, they would expect online protection from the moderator aka sam's assistant or some may say lackey if they want to call it. we cheongsters pay, we would expect value for money and not want to buy a 40inch lcd tv and get a 40inch crt. want slim girl, go in get fat girl
it has become too one-sided and biased. we pay money fuck finish, we also don't want to growl if its good, but its blatant cheating and you think we must swallow this down our throat.
create a social group for people to share real field reports also got deleted. i post, i get zapped repeatedly. i know is the moderator doing all these because he has to protect his okts. or is it now, we pay we cannot even show a sign of unhappiness?

[justl00king]

Word of mouth is very the powderful. :p

If the gal good many good FRs will emerge and vice versa if not good bad FRs will be written as well. But nowadays too many clones around dunno what is real or not anymore.

Guess is should just read those writtne by senior bros for reference if really needed to. You always have a choice whether to patronise them or spend your hard earned money elsewhere. :cool:

[Respectpls]

social group got gun down, nevermind. i just start up this yahoo group.
we shall continue what we left off from

please join this new group
realfieldreport : The real field report group (http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/realfieldreport/)

i know i will be zapped again and again and again and again, but then online bullying is not painful. the painful thing is you people bury your conscience for the sake of money

[kogi]

Some bros losing track of original point of contention. This discussion is about unmet expectations arising from a business model based on selecting a girl from pictures on a website, booking appointment and going to hotel for bonk. The essence of this model is anonymity and discretion.

Well meaning people have suggested if not happy reject at hotel until OKT recommend a suitable one. Others suggest going on walkabout to find by FL on their own. Why divert attention from the hotel based business model into fishbowl or GL walkabout business model?

For professional or family concerns, it is not feasible for some people to openly cruise for WLs or even 'good girls' in public areas. I would not bother to patronize the hotel OKTs and pay their rates if I can catch some cheap snatch on the roadside by myself.

It is less a complaint about price but rather about the unmet expectations that have been built up by OKT themselves with pictures of beautiful girls. Yet often times the girl behind the door looks like someone else entirely or the photo was taken of the girl 10 years ago.
Nobody put a gun to the OKTs head to build up false expectations. If OKTs stock is so poor yet OKT want big bucks for selling stale fish then that is unethical business behavior. It is unrealistic of OKT supporters to suggest take it or leave it.

The other issue is about OKTs poor customer service skills and poor communication etiquette. This post is getting long so I wont comment.

[EtherC]

Some people here really need uncles to hold your hand,take you around town and point out which girls are hookers. I'm talking about 3* or 4* hotels outside of Geylang and Joo Chiat. Let me count, there's at least 10-12 all over the island. Totally discrete.....Open your eyes seriously.... Unmet expectations? Lol Even legal Geylang house hookers can disappoint let alone FLs with airbrushed studio pics zzzzz... Like what Susie said ask the OKT for live pics. I'm sure OKTs can afford excellent camera phones ...... And seriously if you see a fat girl when the picture is a slim one, call the OKT......

No wonder FTs are stealing the jobs of locals........

[Respectpls]

Some people here really need uncles to hold your hand,take you around town and point out which girls are hookers. I'm talking about 3* or 4* hotels outside of Geylang and Joo Chiat. Let me count, there's at least 10-12 all over the island. Totally discrete.....Open your eyes seriously.... Unmet expectations? Lol Even legal Geylang house hookers can disappoint let alone FLs with airbrushed studio pics zzzzz... Like what Susie said ask the OKT for live pics. I'm sure OKTs can afford excellent camera phones ...... And seriously if you see a fat girl when the picture is a slim one, call the OKT......

No wonder FTs are stealing the jobs of locals........

Yes, uncle etherC, we really need uncles like you to hold our hands, take us around town, point out which girls are hookers. but as for asking OKTs for live pictures, this one I need uncle EtherC to enlighten us.
There are a few okts who got no live pictures, can you show us the way? OKTs afford excellent camera photos? if you see a fat girl when the picture is slim, why not you ask which OKT will entertain you to see girl first before booking.
uncle, a lot of people in this forum, talk maciam farting. fart already walk off. i hope you are not one of these kind of people

[Respectpls]

Dear bros,

i pm sammyboyfor on the deletion of the social group,
below is his reply and apologies.

"The problem was that the forum was running very slowly over the past few days. I ran a query and it appears that one of the social group scripts is causing the problem. I disabled social groups and the forum is now a lot faster.

Once I fix the problem, I'll restore the groups function.

My sincere apologies for the inconvenience.

sam"

meantime while we wait for the restoration of the social group, please join the yahoo group. I would also like to apologise to sammyboyfor because due to much people viewing the social group, caused the forum to slow down, a lot of okts affected in their business, very sorry to all the big brothers too, happy chinese new year, gong xi fa cai, wish you all bring more better girls, don't bring fat ugly girls

[BroRock]

After reading the latest posts, it feels like there is either a great prevalence of clones, or there is a number of bros who just prefer to roll over and get fucked with.

I'm serious.

Let's look at it this way. An average of SGD 150 for services procured here on SBF is definitely a lot more than what you pay for streetwalkers. And get this straight, some of the girls standing along GL are way better looking, and provide better services than what I have experienced so far from SBF OKTs. I continue to surf this forum for the following reasons:

1. Confidentiality and discretion
2. Convenience/ease of use
3. Variety at a glance
4. Field reports for preview (which is slowly becoming a farce)
5. The usual tcss with other bros

Assuming I pay about SGD 50-80 more for the above plus points, it's still a tad overpriced....but it's ok, I willingly pay for what SBF offers. However, when the gulf becomes too great, and you pay exceedingly higher prices for ever-dropping quality, or when you get ass-fucked with those sparkling photoshopped pictures acting as a cover for fugly girls....you just begin to wonder. You begin to wonder

Why in the world am I paying premium prices to get bad quality, or worse yet, get ripped off? Are reasons 1, 2, 3 & 4 now sufficient to justify the extra that I pay?

I started this thread in hope of getting some feedback from bros, to raise awareness about my concern. And perhaps for some action to be taken? A group was started to allow honest feedbacks, and may I ask....What is all this for?

To improve the quality of services in SBF, because I wish to continue my patronage.

Several things have made me do a double-take:
1. The furore over the social group started by Bro Respect
2. OKT and their clones making attacks here (instead of reflecting over what is being said, you choose to deride our comments, and make disparaging posts)
3. Some bros (if they are not clones) just seemingly accepting their fleecing
4. The very friendly relationship between paying OKTs and moderators

With respect to point 4, the OKT payment scheme allows this forum to run profitably, but when it gets to a point whereby there is too much skulduggery and the clients gets taken for a ride....Isn't it time to regulate the privileges OKTs enjoy? Like deleting of negative posts?

I'm hoping we get somewhere with this, because as I said, I planned on the regular use of SBF for my little jaunts. If I am constantly placed at a disadvantage here, with 8 out of 10 OKTs being con-jobs...or if I have to actually take up arms here and waste time and effort pushing for improvements, only to be shot down....

Why don't I just take my business elsewhere? It is a fact that as clients, we are the ones generating cash for this whole operation here to be profitable. If I have to pay more for what I deem to be non-service, or I have to carry on with this whole shindig when I can just go GL and look-see (yes, not very discreet doing that, but what's the point of discretion when you're bonking ugly and expensive girls...ugly Thais at 150, ugly locals at 500, all proclaimed models).....

I'm not here to write a thesis on economics. I'm here to enjoy myself. And if I cannot get that here, I'll get it elsewhere. Whether OKTs appreciate my business or not is another thing, since they believe there are always newbies coming to be conned. The male population in Singapore is finite, and word spreads around. And smarter OKTs (or a conglomerate of OKTs) who have vision may one day start a more successful forum, the same way Facebook overtook Friendster. Friendster refused to improve/take advice, but Facebook did, and boy, did they do better.

Boss Sammyboy, it's time to change and improve, and that time is now.

[youallsonice?]

Encountered also Actual girl not even close to her picture when she opened the door, so I just turned and walked away. Okt kept sms/call to change girl but no thanks, fuck you.

[woshixiong]

After reading the latest posts, it feels like there is either a great prevalence of clones, or there is a number of bros who just prefer to roll over and get fucked with.

I'm serious.

Let's look at it this way. An average of SGD 150 for services procured here on SBF is definitely a lot more than what you pay for streetwalkers. And get this straight, some of the girls standing along GL are way better looking, and provide better services than what I have experienced so far from SBF OKTs. I continue to surf this forum for the following reasons:

1. Confidentiality and discretion
2. Convenience/ease of use
3. Variety at a glance
4. Field reports for preview (which is slowly becoming a farce)
5. The usual tcss with other bros

Assuming I pay about SGD 50-80 more for the above plus points, it's still a tad overpriced....but it's ok, I willingly pay for what SBF offers. However, when the gulf becomes too great, and you pay exceedingly higher prices for ever-dropping quality, or when you get ass-fucked with those sparkling photoshopped pictures acting as a cover for fugly girls....you just begin to wonder. You begin to wonder

Why in the world am I paying premium prices to get bad quality, or worse yet, get ripped off? Are reasons 1, 2, 3 & 4 now sufficient to justify the extra that I pay?

I started this thread in hope of getting some feedback from bros, to raise awareness about my concern. And perhaps for some action to be taken? A group was started to allow honest feedbacks, and may I ask....What is all this for?

To improve the quality of services in SBF, because I wish to continue my patronage.

Several things have made me do a double-take:
1. The furore over the social group started by Bro Respect
2. OKT and their clones making attacks here (instead of reflecting over what is being said, you choose to deride our comments, and make disparaging posts)
3. Some bros (if they are not clones) just seemingly accepting their fleecing
4. The very friendly relationship between paying OKTs and moderators

With respect to point 4, the OKT payment scheme allows this forum to run profitably, but when it gets to a point whereby there is too much skulduggery and the clients gets taken for a ride....Isn't it time to regulate the privileges OKTs enjoy? Like deleting of negative posts?

I'm hoping we get somewhere with this, because as I said, I planned on the regular use of SBF for my little jaunts. If I am constantly placed at a disadvantage here, with 8 out of 10 OKTs being con-jobs...or if I have to actually take up arms here and waste time and effort pushing for improvements, only to be shot down....

Why don't I just take my business elsewhere? It is a fact that as clients, we are the ones generating cash for this whole operation here to be profitable. If I have to pay more for what I deem to be non-service, or I have to carry on with this whole shindig when I can just go GL and look-see (yes, not very discreet doing that, but what's the point of discretion when you're bonking ugly and expensive girls...ugly Thais at 150, ugly locals at 500, all proclaimed models).....

I'm not here to write a thesis on economics. I'm here to enjoy myself. And if I cannot get that here, I'll get it elsewhere. Whether OKTs appreciate my business or not is another thing, since they believe there are always newbies coming to be conned. The male population in Singapore is finite, and word spreads around. And smarter OKTs (or a conglomerate of OKTs) who have vision may one day start a more successful forum, the same way Facebook overtook Friendster. Friendster refused to improve/take advice, but Facebook did, and boy, did they do better.

Boss Sammyboy, it's time to change and improve, and that time is now.

its vice versa brorock. u cant just slam those who dont appove ur point or rather. that they are clone. the only person who really know wether its clone or not is bro sammy. everyone is here to enjoy themself. The way i look at it there is no I'm Serious there is only We're Serious Its funny u used Friendster and Facebook to say. but have u every thought that without Friendster ? there wont even be a Facebook to start with? Give it some thought. Chill.

[evilsuns]

After reading the latest posts, it feels like there is either a great prevalence of clones, or there is a number of bros who just prefer to roll over and get fucked with.

I'm serious.

Let's look at it this way. An average of SGD 150 for services procured here on SBF is definitely a lot more than what you pay for streetwalkers. And get this straight, some of the girls standing along GL are way better looking, and provide better services than what I have experienced so far from SBF OKTs. I continue to surf this forum for the following reasons:

1. Confidentiality and discretion
2. Convenience/ease of use
3. Variety at a glance
4. Field reports for preview (which is slowly becoming a farce)
5. The usual tcss with other bros

Assuming I pay about SGD 50-80 more for the above plus points, it's still a tad overpriced....but it's ok, I willingly pay for what SBF offers. However, when the gulf becomes too great, and you pay exceedingly higher prices for ever-dropping quality, or when you get ass-fucked with those sparkling photoshopped pictures acting as a cover for fugly girls....you just begin to wonder. You begin to wonder

Why in the world am I paying premium prices to get bad quality, or worse yet, get ripped off? Are reasons 1, 2, 3 & 4 now sufficient to justify the extra that I pay?

I started this thread in hope of getting some feedback from bros, to raise awareness about my concern. And perhaps for some action to be taken? A group was started to allow honest feedbacks, and may I ask....What is all this for?

To improve the quality of services in SBF, because I wish to continue my patronage.

Several things have made me do a double-take:
1. The furore over the social group started by Bro Respect
2. OKT and their clones making attacks here (instead of reflecting over what is being said, you choose to deride our comments, and make disparaging posts)
3. Some bros (if they are not clones) just seemingly accepting their fleecing
4. The very friendly relationship between paying OKTs and moderators

With respect to point 4, the OKT payment scheme allows this forum to run profitably, but when it gets to a point whereby there is too much skulduggery and the clients gets taken for a ride....Isn't it time to regulate the privileges OKTs enjoy? Like deleting of negative posts?

I'm hoping we get somewhere with this, because as I said, I planned on the regular use of SBF for my little jaunts. If I am constantly placed at a disadvantage here, with 8 out of 10 OKTs being con-jobs...or if I have to actually take up arms here and waste time and effort pushing for improvements, only to be shot down....

Why don't I just take my business elsewhere? It is a fact that as clients, we are the ones generating cash for this whole operation here to be profitable. If I have to pay more for what I deem to be non-service, or I have to carry on with this whole shindig when I can just go GL and look-see (yes, not very discreet doing that, but what's the point of discretion when you're bonking ugly and expensive girls...ugly Thais at 150, ugly locals at 500, all proclaimed models).....

I'm not here to write a thesis on economics. I'm here to enjoy myself. And if I cannot get that here, I'll get it elsewhere. Whether OKTs appreciate my business or not is another thing, since they believe there are always newbies coming to be conned. The male population in Singapore is finite, and word spreads around. And smarter OKTs (or a conglomerate of OKTs) who have vision may one day start a more successful forum, the same way Facebook overtook Friendster. Friendster refused to improve/take advice, but Facebook did, and boy, did they do better.

Boss Sammyboy, it's time to change and improve, and that time is now.

Bro abit off topic liao,i do agree okt standard must to be upz, premium price means premium babe pls pls pls dun charge premium price for average to cannot make it gals.We are not idiot.

[Respectpls]

its vice versa brorock. u cant just slam those who dont appove ur point or rather. that they are clone. the only person who really know wether its clone or not is bro sammy. everyone is here to enjoy themself. The way i look at it there is no I'm Serious there is only We're Serious Its funny u used Friendster and Facebook to say. but have u every thought that without Friendster ? there wont even be a Facebook to start with? Give it some thought. Chill.

i agree with you on those who don't approve ur point doesn't mean they are clone. but clone got good and bad clones too. if a clone write a real fr, its a good clone. if fake fr is a bad clone. just like the clone write she is very slim, next 2 people patronise the girl saw 1 fat pig inside. i cannot understand how a fat girl can be written as slim. so maybe the clone is trying too hard

[BroRock]

Bro abit off topic liao,i do agree okt standard must to be upz, premium price means premium babe pls pls pls dun charge premium price for average to cannot make it gals.We are not idiot.

You do realise that whatever you are paying here on SBF is a premium price, right? The same girl you booked for SGD 120, can be had for below 100 if you coerced her on the streets on GL. Likewise, if you pay 180 here, it's probably cheaper elsewhere. It's called "service tax", for the reasons I mentioned in my post, if you read it properly. This "tax" goes to the overall picture of what you see here on SBF, its maintenance and the OKTs' provision of online services. I am not against paying that amount; however, you seem to be paying it unknowingly!

I do not agree that I am off-topic. If anything, I am addressing the very core of the matter here, the business model. Open your eyes.

[Respectpls]

We're Serious Its funny u used Friendster and Facebook to say. but have u every thought that without Friendster ? there wont even be a Facebook to start with? Give it some thought. Chill.

hi bro, did you read the straits times cutting on sim lim square being hit with many complaints. u just need to go $$$$$$$$$$$$ and you will know which are the lousy blacklisted shops. but over here in sbf, you kenna lousy goods, cannot even complain? buy something from sls, can go complain case. we know this is illegal activity, but don't tell me we cannot even write a real thing out? what has happened to all the conscience of these people? what is the purpose of this forum? is to share. not share fake frs. creating awareness, the okt must learn not to get lousy girls and his business will be better, not do hit and run business. our purpose is to see improvement, its for the benefit of everyone. don't tell me to say if the girl quality is improved, you don't benefit from it?
those act senior uncles nicks who come in and say don't complain this and that, of course they support the okt. because every time he go call chicken, the okt tell him, this girl lousy, leave it for newbie, you take this good girl and help me write fr. got a lot of discounts or not, he have to ask his own conscience. he can lie to us, but the sky is watching him

[fee3fow]

well just got zap by the OKTs. They even post my online nick Lance which i use to register in their forum in their zapping. Lol what are you all trying to prove here? this is really getting nowhere. This FL dome 1 is no longer a forum but just a advertising section for online OKTs. See the GL section, they got post both good bonk and bad experiences in GL. This section the OKTs just advertise. You post bad experience with the girls, u kanna zap or the post is remove. This is a forum? For newbie members who want to try the FLs here, my advise is to try at your own risk. As one member point out, you can go GL and find better deal at a better price. Keeping hiding the truth to protect your business instead of improving and soon you all will find that you will be out of posting soon. No matter if you change your nick/forum when cheongsters lose their faith in the online OKTs, you all will lose out in the end. Just sad that some good online OKTs is going to suffer because of the bad ones :mad:

[fee3fow]

Bro Respectpls your yahoo group a bit hard to use you can join the forum setup by another bro easily to use you can go apply for mod sld have quit a few people support you

[allupato1]

For me as a consumer, i will defintely not go back to a particular supplier if I have an experience when there is a great difference between the picture shown in virtual world and in real life. I believe in "Once bitten, twice shy".

As for newbies, you may need some time and money to figure out which supplier is the one that is more honest in their dealings and the ones which u trust.

I believe in the long run when consumers all start to boycott the vendors that they dont trust, then their business will be hit and they will have no choice but to wind up their business. However there remains a possibility that they will change their nick and present themselves as a new supplier in this industry which we have to be beware of.

My advice is just stick to those supplier that you trust. For me I have a couple of vendor that i trust. However it is also impt to make sure that the supplier you trust do not take advantage of the trust you have in them.

[Respectpls]

However there remains a possibility that they will change their nick and present themselves as a new supplier in this industry which we have to be beware of.

My advice is just stick to those supplier that you trust. For me I have a couple of vendor that i trust. However it is also impt to make sure that the supplier you trust do not take advantage of the trust you have in them.

bro, it is not a possibility. it is a fact. name smelly already, they change new nick. new bies get conned again, not knowing they are the same old people.

got 1 uncle say ask the okt for live pictures. i wonder which okt will entertain him. which okt want to say he will provide live pictures when he don't, just with a call from me, i will be his loyal customer right away, many of us here will immediately support. he also say most okts can afford expensive camera phones. the fact is out of 27 okts here, 21 of them do not show live photos.

i can respect the old and elderly, but some uncles like to use age and their online seniority to test our intelligence. i understand some people eat salt more than we eat rice, but eat too much salt, arteries kenna jammed. not anal jamming anymore but artery jamming. this aj and that aj sama boh?

[sabaixxx]

yes that is a fact...many OKT do it...form the gals and the way they share the forum..it is pretty obvious...so i hope to be able to set a standard in this industry. Hope you guys can support me.

[fee3fow]

haha some "uncles" here might even be the OKTs themselves you know :D?

[BroRock]

So many OKT clones zapped me, but none dared to leave even the fake clone name.

Which means we are doing something right.

I know selling fuck ugly girls for really high prices is really profitable, and you want it to continue. I'm sorry, but we as clients are at the receiving end of your poor business ethics, and for that we have to alert everyone to your tricks. Rather than aimless zapping of our clone accounts, may I suggest to you that you even ask Boss to close my thread?

Then we'll see if there is a God.

[helpme7676]

Bro....I support you

[fee3fow]

Lol i think my signature is attracting too much attention liao. 2 days and i am 0 points :eek:. To all brother that support this thread and up me, no need to up me already.Under too much firepower, save your ammunition for someone else. Help to push this thread to the top hope newbies can benefit from it :D

[fee3fow]

oh ya for OKTs that are busy zapping people in this thread, why dun you all use this time to ponder whether the service you all providing is good/bad how and to improve on it? I dun think all member who join SBF is a 12 year old kid. They can read through this thread and all the forum/FRs before deciding which OKT to patronize.

[Respectpls]

i am pleased that this thread is unlocked again.

i hope every brother here, we have said what we want already, let this be the focus point of real field reports. let's not go and disturb the other okt's threads by posting real field reports there, because they also have to make a living. if we post here all the real field reports, good and bad, and people don't see, then its too bad that they never browse hard enough. until then let's focus the more important thing which is the spirit of sharing real field reports here.

[sexgarden]

I've followed this thread with much interest.

Very good and spot-on observations and investigative works by some of the "regular" posters here.

Which makes me wonder... Are we too bothered by all this too much?
If I had a bad bonk, I will post bad FR. I will tell my friends, I will come online everyday and post to warn everyone? I will create a big stir? I will create a forum to allow people to post bad FR? I will create a yahoo groups to share bad FRs? I will make a nuisance out of myself and everyone? I will even bother to continue making this thread the hottest in SBF?????? Will I be bothered to go through all the troubles to do all this stuff?

If I have a bad bonk...... True, I will blame the OKT and the girl. I might even post a FR to share my experience. I might even ban the OKT, and never patronise his girls in future. But thats' all... But over-doing is like to "FLAME" the OKT or the girl.... Abit the suspicious if the same bros like Respectpls, BroRocks, fee3fow, etc continue coming in to push this thread.

What's the motive of this thread now? Has it become a direct target......

I think we consumers/customers know and appreciate if someone comes out to voice their unhappiness. We will take note of your complain, and definitely not try that girl from that particular OKT. Thank you for daring to write out a bad FR.

But......when that particular FR writer continue pushing and pushing for this bad FR to re-appear, is it a direct aim at that OKT? I wonder why if you dislike the girl or have a bad session, you will want to spoil her/his rice-bowl??? One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison

Bros, I hope you guys continue working hard and earn enough money for your next bonk. It should be a better one, since you know who you are going to ban and not patronise anymore. I think most customers here do go through a bad bonk, and they will not patronise that OKT again. But most customers either post a bad FR, and look forward to the future.

Afterall, what's the AGENDA to bonk? To relax, enjoy and be happy!!!

Common', be over it, and get ahead with life!!!
Wish you success in your next bonk.

[sexgarden]

i am pleased that this thread is unlocked again.

i hope every brother here, we have said what we want already, let this be the focus point of real field reports. let's not go and disturb the other okt's threads by posting real field reports there, because they also have to make a living. if we post here all the real field reports, good and bad, and people don't see, then its too bad that they never browse hard enough. until then let's focus the more important thing which is the spirit of sharing real field reports here.

By the way, bro...
How do I judge which FR is real or fake?
Please teach me... I will look out for myself in future.

[fee3fow]

Sorry but i dun think we are just pushing up a particular bad FR or is again a particular group. We just want a post for our honest and genuine FR so that new brother who want to go for a bonk get their money worth. We dun boycott any OKTs or any girls in this thread. We also can't tell peole which are the good OKTs or girls as Bro sexgarden point out One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison. If you go the GL section we can see reports on people bonk in GL be it good or bad bonk. You see this forum report, got how many bad reports? Are you sure that all that went for the FL in this forum has a good bonk and are satisfied with their service? People cannot tell you which FR is real or not, consumers have to decide themselves. We are just offering a place for people to post FRs that are "ban" in this forum so that people can get a more all-rounded view of the girls before they go for the bonk. In the end, Bro sexgarden if you are happy with the OKT and the service they provide i dun think this thread is going to affect you or your bonk. Wishing you a good bonk :D

[ahyong]

I've followed this thread with much interest.

Very good and spot-on observations and investigative works by some of the "regular" posters here.

Which makes me wonder... Are we too bothered by all this too much?
If I had a bad bonk, I will post bad FR. I will tell my friends, I will come online everyday and post to warn everyone? I will create a big stir? I will create a forum to allow people to post bad FR? I will create a yahoo groups to share bad FRs? I will make a nuisance out of myself and everyone? I will even bother to continue making this thread the hottest in SBF?????? Will I be bothered to go through all the troubles to do all this stuff?

If I have a bad bonk...... True, I will blame the OKT and the girl. I might even post a FR to share my experience. I might even ban the OKT, and never patronise his girls in future. But thats' all... But over-doing is like to "FLAME" the OKT or the girl.... Abit the suspicious if the same bros like Respectpls, BroRocks, fee3fow, etc continue coming in to push this thread.

What's the motive of this thread now? Has it become a direct target......

I think we consumers/customers know and appreciate if someone comes out to voice their unhappiness. We will take note of your complain, and definitely not try that girl from that particular OKT. Thank you for daring to write out a bad FR.

But......when that particular FR writer continue pushing and pushing for this bad FR to re-appear, is it a direct aim at that OKT? I wonder why if you dislike the girl or have a bad session, you will want to spoil her/his rice-bowl??? One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison

Bros, I hope you guys continue working hard and earn enough money for your next bonk. It should be a better one, since you know who you are going to ban and not patronise anymore. I think most customers here do go through a bad bonk, and they will not patronise that OKT again. But most customers either post a bad FR, and look forward to the future.

Afterall, what's the AGENDA to bonk? To relax, enjoy and be happy!!!

Common', be over it, and get ahead with life!!!
Wish you success in your next bonk.

bro sexgarden well say,i see this thread also sian liao nothing new same old stories everyday.

[RhinoDick]

bro sexgarden well say,i see this thread also sian liao nothing new same old stories everyday.

Ya man. Same few nicks upping the thread, trying to gain attention? Why so many people like to do this type of thing? Outta nowhere complain about OKTs gal, complain abt their way of doing things, that happens even before FL dome 2 exist. After gaining some responses from people who got the same point of view, start some group to post what genuine FR. Then what next? Like what happens before, you guys going to be writing FRs and recommends so call good gals assess by YOU? Then start a thread bonk of the year? Or suddenly one new OKT appear and YOU seems to be impressed with what he's doing, macam all that you complains now, won't happen with this OKT?

Same old story, same old pattern.

Then I might as well start a thread and gather people who dare to write FRs for sharing, good or bad, as long as its experience from real encounter, we take turns to up him, vice versa, he'll have to up the next who write FR. Better right? So everyone dare to write true encounters without fearing kena zapped.


I feel that its a waste of bandwidth, request sammyboyfor to DELETE this thread.

[RhinoDick]

I've followed this thread with much interest.

Very good and spot-on observations and investigative works by some of the "regular" posters here.

Which makes me wonder... Are we too bothered by all this too much?
If I had a bad bonk, I will post bad FR. I will tell my friends, I will come online everyday and post to warn everyone? I will create a big stir? I will create a forum to allow people to post bad FR? I will create a yahoo groups to share bad FRs? I will make a nuisance out of myself and everyone? I will even bother to continue making this thread the hottest in SBF?????? Will I be bothered to go through all the troubles to do all this stuff?

If I have a bad bonk...... True, I will blame the OKT and the girl. I might even post a FR to share my experience. I might even ban the OKT, and never patronise his girls in future. But thats' all... But over-doing is like to "FLAME" the OKT or the girl.... Abit the suspicious if the same bros like Respectpls, BroRocks, fee3fow, etc continue coming in to push this thread.

What's the motive of this thread now? Has it become a direct target......

I think we consumers/customers know and appreciate if someone comes out to voice their unhappiness. We will take note of your complain, and definitely not try that girl from that particular OKT. Thank you for daring to write out a bad FR.

But......when that particular FR writer continue pushing and pushing for this bad FR to re-appear, is it a direct aim at that OKT? I wonder why if you dislike the girl or have a bad session, you will want to spoil her/his rice-bowl??? One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison

Bros, I hope you guys continue working hard and earn enough money for your next bonk. It should be a better one, since you know who you are going to ban and not patronise anymore. I think most customers here do go through a bad bonk, and they will not patronise that OKT again. But most customers either post a bad FR, and look forward to the future.

Afterall, what's the AGENDA to bonk? To relax, enjoy and be happy!!!

Common', be over it, and get ahead with life!!!
Wish you success in your next bonk.

The true agenda will be reveal one day, if boss allows this thread to go on and on.

The famous phrase "One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison" is not found in these guy's mind. They want to instill "my poison HAVE to be everone's else poison too".

[~oyster~]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?

2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.

Afterall this is cyberworld after all . Why take it so seriously ?

[Respectpls]

I've followed this thread with much interest.

Very good and spot-on observations and investigative works by some of the "regular" posters here.

Which makes me wonder... Are we too bothered by all this too much?
If I had a bad bonk, I will post bad FR. I will tell my friends, I will come online everyday and post to warn everyone? I will create a big stir? I will create a forum to allow people to post bad FR? I will create a yahoo groups to share bad FRs? I will make a nuisance out of myself and everyone? I will even bother to continue making this thread the hottest in SBF?????? Will I be bothered to go through all the troubles to do all this stuff?
seriously, everyone of us can choose to keep quiet. don't even need to say its a bad bonk. like you said save time, and go work earn more money for next bonk. maybe this shouldn't be a forum, but just a website, no need people to comment anything at all. then what is the purpose of you following this thread with interest? something must have make you interested. just like why you go and see the okt threads. you want to see only photos or you want to read frs? if everyone only wants to see photos, don't want read frs, i can tell you many okts can be very happy, no need to create nicks to write frs to boost business.
in your eyes, maybe i eat full very free, start yahoo group, start forum. that is why okts think that if everyone eat full very free, they can just bring lousy girls as no one will be that free to post lousy stuff. no one wants to volunteer to see changes. i eat full very free, i volunteer, if people don't appreciate, its ok, but there will be people who benefit from it. if you don't, you can avoid us for sure.


If I have a bad bonk...... True, I will blame the OKT and the girl. I might even post a FR to share my experience. I might even ban the OKT, and never patronise his girls in future. But thats' all... But over-doing is like to "FLAME" the OKT or the girl.... Abit the suspicious if the same bros like Respectpls, BroRocks, fee3fow, etc continue coming in to push this thread.
before you start saying we overdo it, do you know we started a social group in this sammyboyforum and we were sharing field reports inside. until the social group was closed down because Sam said the social group slowed down his whole forum. if you are suspicious of us, don't need you to believe us. we cannot force you either.


What's the motive of this thread now? Has it become a direct target......
I think we consumers/customers know and appreciate if someone comes out to voice their unhappiness. We will take note of your complain, and definitely not try that girl from that particular OKT. Thank you for daring to write out a bad FR.
A FR which is not good can be deleted, if its deleted, how will you be able to take note of that complain?


But......when that particular FR writer continue pushing and pushing for this bad FR to re-appear, is it a direct aim at that OKT? I wonder why if you dislike the girl or have a bad session, you will want to spoil her/his rice-bowl??? One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison
this is the problem. is writing a FR which describe a lousy experience equal to spoiling their rice bowl? i don't think so. you come in sbf, you already said you want to read on feedbacks. if everyone pulls back on bad reviews, i think you also can jump into a hole and see a fat pig advertise as a slim girl when u visit her.


Bros, I hope you guys continue working hard and earn enough money for your next bonk. It should be a better one, since you know who you are going to ban and not patronise anymore. I think most customers here do go through a bad bonk, and they will not patronise that OKT again. But most customers either post a bad FR, and look forward to the future.

Afterall, what's the AGENDA to bonk? To relax, enjoy and be happy!!!

Common', be over it, and get ahead with life!!!
Wish you success in your next bonk.
everyone says get ahead in life, girls quality and okt service should actually improve over the years, but how come getting worst and worst? because everyone thinks, aiya bochup is better, so that is why the situation here is turning form bad to worse

[Respectpls]

Ya man. Same few nicks upping the thread, trying to gain attention? Why so many people like to do this type of thing? Outta nowhere complain about OKTs gal, complain abt their way of doing things, that happens even before FL dome 2 exist. After gaining some responses from people who got the same point of view, start some group to post what genuine FR. Then what next? Like what happens before, you guys going to be writing FRs and recommends so call good gals assess by YOU? Then start a thread bonk of the year? Or suddenly one new OKT appear and YOU seems to be impressed with what he's doing, macam all that you complains now, won't happen with this OKT?

Same old story, same old pattern.

Then I might as well start a thread and gather people who dare to write FRs for sharing, good or bad, as long as its experience from real encounter, we take turns to up him, vice versa, he'll have to up the next who write FR. Better right? So everyone dare to write true encounters without fearing kena zapped.


I feel that its a waste of bandwidth, request sammyboyfor to DELETE this thread.

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

[evilsuns]

So many OKT clones zapped me, but none dared to leave even the fake clone name.

Which means we are doing something right.

I know selling fuck ugly girls for really high prices is really profitable, and you want it to continue. I'm sorry, but we as clients are at the receiving end of your poor business ethics, and for that we have to alert everyone to your tricks. Rather than aimless zapping of our clone accounts, may I suggest to you that you even ask Boss to close my thread?

Then we'll see if there is a God.

hahaha is like that,thats why hope boss sam can come out with a tools so that we can see who zap ask and why he zap us lolx.being open here i oso kena zap but to me zap zap lor waste their point on me only i can create another nick oso.;)

[fee3fow]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?
I doubt anyone will be able to answer this question. This is cyberworld and you will never know who post the FR and their intention. You can read through the FR and book the girl. If your experience is quite similar to the FR posted by that person, maybe you will trust that person more when he post FR in the future and vice verse.

2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?
go take a live picture of yourself and go down to a studio to take a studio shot. You will see the different :D

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?
Same as question (1) nobody can tell you which is true or not on the cyberworld. You are old enough to read, analysis and decide what you want to believe. My suggestion is you read from different sources before making a decision.

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?
Cause i got nothing better to do at home :D. But our rate of pushing still lose to the OKT in the end

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.
I dun think i know about abt okt business models. I am sure there are alot of senior brothers here that know much more then me. It is just whether they want to post here and risk getting zap


Afterall this is cyberworld after all . Why take it so seriously ?
Well if the girls are cybergirls, we use cybermoney to cyberbonk i think this thread will have dead out by now. The fact that we surf cyberworld for real-life girls for real-life bonk make this a serious issue.

[RhinoDick]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?
Go try the gal yourself, and compare to what is written in the FR if similar

2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?
Go try take a look at the real person yourself, and compare with the photo shown.

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?
Find out the truth, compare to what is said.

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?
Go make friend to this few nicks, find out why by becoming really friendly with them, spend alot of time meeting up with them, talk to them and find out

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.
Refer to 4)


Well, I answer the same few questions bro fee3fow post before, can someone comments on our posting? Is it constructive? Or plain waste of time for you to read?

[RhinoDick]

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

Are you answering to my post? If yes, then I found it out of point. Or maybe I don't get it?

[alien69]

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)



Hi Bro,

Actually this "Thai Students" are doing it on their own Free wills... in fact I tried once...when I in Bkk....

1st, they willingly promote themselves .
2nd, they have good reasons. eg:school fees, hospitals bills for mother, Gambling debts for father...etc
3rd: They only take 1 customer a day... cost about 2000 baht.
4th: They do it only in their own free time.
5th: they dont come to singapore and sell , as OUR own singapore OKTS take a cut...

In SHort, tell me who is more GUILTY? Girls or OKTS?

[Respectpls]

I feel that its a waste of bandwidth, request sammyboyfor to DELETE this thread

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

Are you answering to my post? If yes, then I found it out of point. Or maybe I don't get it?

how can it be out of poiint? u request sammyboyfor to delete this thread which he cannot do it because this FL dome is not controlled by him. I already highlighted in the various links. did you click on those to read it?

[idoitsonysam]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?
I doubt anyone will be able to answer this question. This is cyberworld and you will never know who post the FR and their intention. You can read through the FR and book the girl. If your experience is quite similar to the FR posted by that person, maybe you will trust that person more when he post FR in the future and vice verse.

2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?
go take a live picture of yourself and go down to a studio to take a studio shot. You will see the different :D

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?
Same as question (1) nobody can tell you which is true or not on the cyberworld. You are old enough to read, analysis and decide what you want to believe. My suggestion is you read from different sources before making a decision.

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?
Cause i got nothing better to do at home :D. But our rate of pushing still lose to the OKT in the end

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.
I dun think i know about abt okt business models. I am sure there are alot of senior brothers here that know much more then me. It is just whether they want to post here and risk getting zap


Afterall this is cyberworld after all . Why take it so seriously ?
Well if the girls are cybergirls, we use cybermoney to cyberbonk i think this thread will have dead out by now. The fact that we surf cyberworld for real-life girls for real-life bonk make this a serious issue.

this fellow fee3fow dont trust him lah,i went to their FORUM.I POST THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH they kicked me out and ban me for 7days.the are clones of xxxxxxx.dont even dare to use their real nick to post shame on them.i was just post what i feels they also not happy.NEWBIEs BRO dont trust them,Only truth yourself because is your $$$$ not theirs.

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

This fellow is the worst of the lot,you must carry his ball then he will let you post no matters how bad what you say that he likes to hear only.i post bad about okts he kicked,so i suan him then he is happy.he say he try so many girls BUT HE USE FAKE NICK TO POST IN SBF,WHERE THIS PERSON GOT CREDIBILITY.I THINKS THE BLOG ALSO WRITTEN BY HIM.so all the okts pls whack him.pls go to his stupid forum and read.i will go to his forum and post everyday and play this gangs of dishonest peoples and byebye see you in your forum ya

[idoitsonysam]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?
I doubt anyone will be able to answer this question. This is cyberworld and you will never know who post the FR and their intention. You can read through the FR and book the girl. If your experience is quite similar to the FR posted by that person, maybe you will trust that person more when he post FR in the future and vice verse.

2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?
go take a live picture of yourself and go down to a studio to take a studio shot. You will see the different :D

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?
Same as question (1) nobody can tell you which is true or not on the cyberworld. You are old enough to read, analysis and decide what you want to believe. My suggestion is you read from different sources before making a decision.

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?
Cause i got nothing better to do at home :D. But our rate of pushing still lose to the OKT in the end

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.
I dun think i know about abt okt business models. I am sure there are alot of senior brothers here that know much more then me. It is just whether they want to post here and risk getting zap


Afterall this is cyberworld after all . Why take it so seriously ?
Well if the girls are cybergirls, we use cybermoney to cyberbonk i think this thread will have dead out by now. The fact that we surf cyberworld for real-life girls for real-life bonk make this a serious issue.

this fellow fee3fow dont trust him lah,i went to their FORUM.I POST THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH they kicked me out and ban me for 7days.the are clones of xxxxxxx.dont even dare to use their real nick to post shame on them.i was just post what i feels they also not happy.NEWBIEs BRO dont trust them,Only truth yourself because is your $$$$ not theirs.

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

This fellow is the worst of the lot,you must carry his ball then he will let you post no matters how bad what you say that he likes to hear only.i post bad about okts he kicked,so i suan him then he is happy.he say he try so many girls BUT HE USE FAKE NICK TO POST IN SBF,WHERE THIS PERSON GOT CREDIBILITY.I THINKS THE BLOG ALSO WRITTEN BY HIM.so all the okts pls whack him.pls go to his stupid forum and read.i will go to his forum and post everyday and play this gangs of dishonest peoples and byebye see you in your forum ya

[idoitsonysam]

how can it be out of poiint? u request sammyboyfor to delete this thread which he cannot do it because this FL dome is not controlled by him. I already highlighted in the various links. did you click on those to read it?

you naughty boy boy,Moderator here so good dont ban for whatever you say even good or bad because is just a comment.in your forum you ban me for whatever you feel i write you take it to seriously.i already say YOUR EQ IS VERY LOW.my nick you like or not

[idoitsonysam]

Thai students using internet for prostitution - Sam's Alfresco Coffee (http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=16613)
Sammyboy says that this part of the forum has nothing to do with him.
he also said

I find it absolutely disgusting that the internet is being used for the promotion of prostitution.

Those guilty of such heinous activities should be sent to hell.
Sam's Alfresco Coffee - View Single Post - Thai students using internet for prostitution (http://sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=160014&postcount=2)

just because he is using BOSS SAM avatar you believe he is not SAM.i already told you repeatedly YOUR EQ IS LOW

[~oyster~]

What to also know a few things :

1) How differentiate a real fr of a fake fr ?
I doubt anyone will be able to answer this question. This is cyberworld and you will never know who post the FR and their intention. You can read through the FR and book the girl. If your experience is quite similar to the FR posted by that person, maybe you will trust that person more when he post FR in the future and vice verse.

So you yourself can't tell the defference between a real fr & fake :eek::rolleyes:
2 ) How can be sure if it is live picture or studio picture ?
go take a live picture of yourself and go down to a studio to take a studio shot. You will see the different

Again how can you judge the picture of the girl ? Secondly I don't need to take studio picture of myself. I am not vain .:D

3 ) How can we know what is said is true or not ?
Same as question (1) nobody can tell you which is true or not on the cyberworld. You are old enough to read, analysis and decide what you want to believe. My suggestion is you read from different sources before making a decision.

Even you yourself can't tell the difference .You are telling us what to do ?

4 ) How is that a few nicks seemed determine to push up this thread ?
Cause i got nothing better to do at home :D. But our rate of pushing still lose to the OKT in the end

Wow like that you very free. Why don't you find something better to do ?

5 ) How is it this few nicks seemed to know so much about okt business models.
I dun think i know about abt okt business models. I am sure there are alot of senior brothers here that know much more then me. It is just whether they want to post here and risk getting zap

So are you one of the senior brothers here ?


Afterall this is cyberworld after all . Why take it so seriously ?
Well if the girls are cybergirls, we use cybermoney to cyberbonk i think this thread will have dead out by now. The fact that we surf cyberworld for real-life girls for real-life bonk make this a serious issue.

If you encounter a bad bonk is good to share. But sometimes we have to be wiser and learn to move on. As it is there are many okts around inside sbf & outside. You have the right to choose.

Very soon you will discover which okt is good & which is bad . Or maybe you are just a very picky & choosy customer who just like to complain a lot .

[~oyster~]

Well, I answer the same few questions bro fee3fow post before, can someone comments on our posting? Is it constructive? Or plain waste of time for you to read?

Why are you quoting bro fee3fow previous posting ? Don't you have your own ideas ? Or are you twin bro of fee3fow? :p:D

[RhinoDick]

ok then i request moderator of this place to delete this thread, simply waste of bandwidth

[poonani]

How come there is no on going problem in FL Dome 2 with the PRCs?

OK, pricing is one thing - we have no right to complain too much for $60, but all the photos and FRs turn out to be real.

[RhinoDick]

Why are you quoting bro fee3fow previous posting ? Don't you have your own ideas ? Or are you twin bro of fee3fow? :p:D

maybe i am his twin, thats for me to know, for you to find out. I didn't quote his posting, i just answer the questions another bro posted, why can't i post my views on those same questions? You got good ideas, try to post something constructive, not here to pinpoint other, smart S!:p

[idoitsonysam]

If you encounter a bad bonk is good to share. But sometimes we have to be wiser and learn to move on. As it is there are many okts around inside sbf & outside. You have the right to choose.

Very soon you will discover which okt is good & which is bad . Or maybe you are just a very picky & choosy customer who just like to complain a lot .

you another lackey is it follow your master,good boy

[idoitsonysam]

maybe i am his twin, thats for me to know, for you to find out. I didn't quote his posting, i just answer the questions another bro posted, why can't i post my views on those same questions? You got good ideas, try to post something constructive, not here to pinpoint other, smart S!:p

bro RhinoDick,dont waste your time here go to their forum and post better more fun.the are all petty peoples only heard GOOD THINGS.LOW EQ CHAMPIONs- Respectpls and fee3fow.me too that why they entertain me in their Lousy

(NEWBIE BROTHERS DONT TRUTH THEM<TRUTH YOUR OWN $$$$$$$)

Respectpls and fee3fow(they use clone to post so i also follow the trend i their owner they are my puppies)

[idoitsonysam]

Why are you quoting bro fee3fow previous posting ? Don't you have your own ideas ? Or are you twin bro of fee3fow? :p:D


you another idoit and must give you some lessons.Go and find your owner

[DeViL~CasNov@]

Brother. You could have reject the girl like I did once when I was misrepresented. Of course I pay some change to the girl.
So who is at fault if the real deal is different from the photo?
Very tough question I guess. Girl, agent or OKT? Girl for looking different in person, agent who sent girls photo to okts and okts who never reject when knowing she is different by 180degrees.I think all at fault if you ask me.
So Now, I only choose those okts that are reliable, who will listen to customers if things are not up to expectation.
Relax brother. You will find your trustworthy okt someday.:)

agreed with bro`
i encounter my diff. before too
but stil`, like bro mention, can reject, but sadly stil have to pay some $
and of cos, no one to blame.

relax, cheer bro`

[Respectpls]

Look, if you have no interest here, take a hike. No one is pointing a gun at your head to browse this thread. If you and the OKTs are having a darn good relationship, running off into the sunset hand in hand, that's great. Have fun. Just don't come here, because over here, people are actually concerned about the quality of FLs. We want to pay for good bonks, so if you're already having tons of it, lucky chap you, and don't waste my time here reading your nonsense posts.

I only want to see people posting decent, honest FRs for the benefit of all bros. So if you have nothing to contribute, short of saying my thread is wasting bandwidth (as opposed to a hundred other OKTs pushing their threads up ten times a day), goodbye, the door is there, help yourself out.

And for the very thick-headed ones who wonder why Boss has not yet shut down this thread, please use your brains. They are there for a reason.

bro, the funny part is when people oppose, i can understand where they come from. they think we are a nuisance, this thread is boliao. but they have done nothing much to even contribute, except to say we are trying to make one man's poison as anothers. i don't go to all the okt threads and make trouble or even post unfavourable field reports, because they are all making a living. now we just need a small space to share real field reports, the punishment we get is get zapped, get insulted.

have anyone wonder when was the last time Boss, i mean sammyboy, coming inside this fl dome? years ago, he said this forum is giving him a very big problem. only 1-2 days back, he post in his sammyboy.com forum that this Fl dome has nothing to do with him, if you ask me, i believe. i asked him about the down of the social group, at least he bothered to reply to me, when he could have ignore me.
a lot of nick here have bury their conscience because they are on good terms with okts. they have to worry that their reputation points going down south if they post something lousy. they have to worry they no longer get discounts from okts. everything stems from money. bro, don't blame these people, its human nature. if they still have this little bit of conscience in them, don't write field report nevermind, but don't write fake ones to con the people here.

[makop]

How come there is no on going problem in FL Dome 2 with the PRCs?

OK, pricing is one thing - we have no right to complain too much for $60, but all the photos and FRs turn out to be real.

FL dome 2 is also facing the same problem if you look closely just that in different form. Threads get deleted, Mod say they are advertising.... but certain threads get to stay alive. Best part is there will also be TS with less than 5 posts and their reps point goes up? Just look closely and you realize that SBF has already evolve into a commercial sex advertising site. Not really about sharing since those that dun pay will have their threads deleted and just look closely and you will know that certain senior samsters are siding with which OKTS and if you are smart enough you will also know that actually some of them are owners of certain threads. Seriously, if you ask me even the quality of a lot of so call gems now can't even match with what was in this forums 3 years back since the threads are pretty much controlled, we only see the same own threads alive with only a few new one popping up once in a blue moon.

Not saying that some genuine sharing of the gems are not good but just that the quantity of them are dropping (new thread disappearing) so in turn also affect the number of potential gems that are suppose to appear.

[idoitsonysam]

this matter i finally agreed with you,DONT POST FAKE FR TO CON BROTHERs HARD EARN $$$$ ok.

when are you going to unban me and because of you i lost 3.6k in leisure world u know now $$$$ hard to earn.pls let me go to the forum and post:mad:

[idoitsonysam]

Not saying that some genuine sharing of the gems are not good but just that the quantity of them are dropping (new thread disappearing) so in turn also affect the number of potential gems that are suppose to appear.

bro so difficult and is making your life so miserable dont log in to sbf stay at home watch porn and pcc.

[~oyster~]

this fellow fee3fow dont trust him lah,i went to their FORUM.I POST THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH they kicked me out and ban me for 7days.the are clones of xxxxxxx.dont even dare to use their real nick to post shame on them.i was just post what i feels they also not happy.NEWBIEs BRO dont trust them,Only truth yourself because is your $$$$ not theirs.



Quick quick tell us the nick "xxxxxxx " :D;)

[~oyster~]

bro RhinoDick,dont waste your time here go to their forum and post better more fun.the are all petty peoples only heard GOOD THINGS.LOW EQ CHAMPIONs- Respectpls and fee3fow.me too that why they entertain me in their Lousy

(NEWBIE BROTHERS DONT TRUTH THEM<TRUTH YOUR OWN $$$$$$$)Respectpls and fee3fow(they use clone to post so i also follow the trend i their owner they are my puppies)

How cume your english change so drastically comapred to the previous posting ? I simply do not comprehend your standard of english. :eek::confused: Me catch no ball. :p

[~oyster~]

you another idoit and must give you some lessons.Go and find your owner

What lessons you want to give me ? English lessons . Please be more specific.

[~oyster~]

bro, the funny part is when people oppose, i can understand where they come from. they think we are a nuisance, this thread is boliao. but they have done nothing much to even contribute, except to say we are trying to make one man's poison as anothers. i don't go to all the okt threads and make trouble or even post unfavourable field reports, because they are all making a living. now we just need a small space to share real field reports, the punishment we get is get zapped, get insulted.

[/B]

Why you so now the thread boliao ? Isn't you spent a lot of time in this thread ? So are you boliao also ? :p Again I want to ask what is a real FR & fake Fr ?

If real fr is writing a bad fr . Then can we be sure the bad fr is real or fake ? So what is a good and honet fr ?

Also what good will live picture or studio picture make any difference ?
If the gal does not do the things as promised then will be bad experience?

[Didi~wa~Didi]

Got this type of thread again! Not to say its waste of time or not but why bring in God & sammy just to put your point across? Guys, cheonging can never be an exact science becos it deal with human inter-action and u kno each of us are unique in our way. Us the 'fuckers', will also have to do our part to put the lady at ease first before we can get a good bonk. They are not machines whereby they perform to a certain standard each and everytime! Uncle not here to teach u but hope u listen. Anyway i dont see why FR's in your group is diff from good FR's in this forum.

[makop]

bro so difficult and is making your life so miserable dont log in to sbf stay at home watch porn and pcc.

Elaborate pls, your comment doesn't even make any sense. If need be pls conduct your english lesson here so that we can scope to your level to understand you.

Also i think the fishtank gals are better than yours anyway (cheaper somemore) so dun really need to stay home and PCC or watch porn to kill time.

[fee3fow]

Keep posting idoitsonysam then i dun have to log in so often to push up this thread :D. Thanks for your help man you are the BEST

[RhinoDick]

What lessons you want to give me ? English lessons . Please be more specific.

he's either drunk or drugged when he do posting. why care about dog barking? He can only bark, but don't bite. :p

[~oyster~]

Why you so now the thread boliao ? Isn't you spent a lot of time in this thread ? So are you boliao also ? :p Again I want to ask what is a real FR & fake Fr ?

If real fr is writing a bad fr . Then can we be sure the bad fr is real or fake ? So what is a good and honet fr ?

Also what good will live picture or studio picture make any difference ?
If the gal does not do the things as promised then will be bad experience?


Still no reply from bro respectpls.

[~oyster~]

Keep posting idoitsonysam then i dun have to log in so often to push up this thread :D. Thanks for your help man you are the BEST

why aren't you interested in this thread anymore ? :confused::eek::rolleyes:

[~oyster~]

he's either drunk or drugged when he do posting. why care about dog barking? He can only bark, but don't bite. :p

Yes agree . :D This thread got 15497 viewers. ;) Seemed like a lot of bros interested. TS also seemed to have disappeared.

[fee3fow]

why aren't you interested in this thread anymore ? :confused::eek::rolleyes:

Nope i am still interested but already say what i have to say already ma. Let the viewer read through and decide for themselves :D

[BroRock]

Oyster, I didn't fucking disappear.

Just because I don't post, doesn't mean I'm not watching my thread.

And when I do post, my posts magically disappear.

Tell me, what am I expected to do?

1. Moderators delete my posts, which I certainly believe is written in more coherent english than some of the half-past six rubbish I have to contend with in this thread.

2. Influx of OKT clones here.
-One thing about OKT clones, they like to double post, spout nonsense, attempt to rile fellow Samsters...and their english is not even primary 6 level! It's one thing to be an OKT, but it's another to lose out to 12 year olds. Since they post so often trying to destroy my thread, and I have nothing to say in reply to rubbish anyway...I don't post that often. Plus they give my thread free bumps, so I'll give them some credit.

3. The OKTs make so much noise about me, Bro Respect and Bro Feefow being clones. I already said this: I'm a clone. I post using this clone account. Which part of this sentence do you not understand?

4. Well, lies are being spread here about Bro Respect, about how the FR forum is being managed. I can't afford time to moderate that forum, but I sure as hell know what is going on there. Again, I'd leave it up to discerning bros to decided on the truth. I'm not going to waste time clarifying stupid posts.

It sure seems like Boss has left this forum to be run by moderators and certain imbecilic OKTs. In that case, too bad. I'm not going to patronise them. I already know who are the decent OKTs anyway. Until this thread gets deleted in a sheer act of injustice, I shall continue to bump it and warn new Samsters about the perils. Delete my posts, I'll just post some more. It sure seems like certain factions cannot stomach common logic and good arguments.

And as for me, I will still not stoop so low as to directly name the undesirable OKTs. They're bound to perish anyway, given the destructive nature in which they run their business. I just call my trusted OKTs for a good time, so I don't browse the spams here anymore.

[RhinoDick]

Wah wa wa, use fucking disappear! I can see that your last post is written in more coherent english than mine. Good job, well done, if can i would want to give a pat on your back, cos you the best, in term of your english, your heroic act of saving samsters from going to bad OKTs, your setting up of the new forum and group. BRAVO :)

[RhinoDick]

why aren't you interested in this thread anymore ? :confused::eek::rolleyes:

Bro!!! IT is howling! Didn't fucking disappear, IT is watching the thread, IT maybe watching YOU. Careful of bite, i can sense IT is a little pissed :eek:

[~oyster~]

Wah wa wa, use fucking disappear! I can see that your last post is written in more coherent english than mine. Good job, well done, if can i would want to give a pat on your back, cos you the best, in term of your english, your heroic act of saving samsters from going to bad OKTs, your setting up of the new forum and group. BRAVO :)

So are we going to have english lessons here ? :eek::D

[~oyster~]

Bro!!! IT is howling! Didn't fucking disappear, IT is watching the thread, IT maybe watching YOU. Careful of bite, i can sense IT is a little pissed :eek:

This thread getting more & more interesting . Real life drama . :D But then still nobody replied to my questions. Also what is the objective of this thread ?:confused:

[~oyster~]

Oyster, I didn't fucking disappear.

Just because I don't post, doesn't mean I'm not watching my thread.

That means you online the whole day ?

And when I do post, my posts magically disappear.

My posts also disappear . You not the only one.

Tell me, what am I expected to do?

Sorry can't answer that . This answer only the owner & moderator can ans.

1. Moderators delete my posts, which I certainly believe is written in more coherent english than some of the half-past six rubbish I have to contend with in this thread.

So you score distinction in your General Paper ?

2. Influx of OKT clones here.
-One thing about OKT clones, they like to double post, spout nonsense, attempt to rile fellow Samsters...and their english is not even primary 6 level! It's one thing to be an OKT, but it's another to lose out to 12 year olds. Since they post so often trying to destroy my thread, and I have nothing to say in reply to rubbish anyway...I don't post that often. Plus they give my thread free bumps, so I'll give them some credit.

What is clone ? How do you know there are clones ?

3. The OKTs make so much noise about me, Bro Respect and Bro Feefow being clones. I already said this: I'm a clone. I post using this clone account. Which part of this sentence do you not understand?

Aren't you the one who start to make noise first ? So what is your original nick ?

4. Well, lies are being spread here about Bro Respect, about how the FR forum is being managed. I can't afford time to moderate that forum, but I sure as hell know what is going on there. Again, I'd leave it up to discerning bros to decided on the truth. I'm not going to waste time clarifying stupid posts.

So why in the first place you start this thread ?

It sure seems like Boss has left this forum to be run by moderators and certain imbecilic OKTs. In that case, too bad. I'm not going to patronise them. I already know who are the decent OKTs anyway. Until this thread gets deleted in a sheer act of injustice, I shall continue to bump it and warn new Samsters about the perils. Delete my posts, I'll just post some more. It sure seems like certain factions cannot stomach common logic and good arguments.

You got any proof ? Thanks for your kind concern about the new samsters. I am sure there are much more reputable samsters than you.


And as for me, I will still not stoop so low as to directly name the undesirable OKTs. They're bound to perish anyway, given the destructive nature in which they run their business. I just call my trusted OKTs for a good time, so I don't browse the spams here anymore.

Nobody force you to choose that okt. Anyways there are many other okts around. Just move on.