KC counter intelligence techniques

[supercialis]

I tried this during my last reservist in camp.
I got one of my men, who always go Geylang, to visit my PRC girl who I got KC.
Of course, I paid for him...told him to try his best to get her Wechat...gave him a SIM card.

I wanted a full report of what he can "unlock" on first visit....this guy is a good looking fit man.

I later assumed his identity on wechat...of course my girl has NO IDEA.

3 week incamp...I paid him to go 3 x.

I learnt alot!!!!

I was "cured" of my KC and told my girl to fuck off...

anyone got more stories to share???

[heroi111]

I tried this during my last reservist in camp.
I got one of my men, who always go Geylang, to visit my PRC girl who I got KC.
Of course, I paid for him...told him to try his best to get her Wechat...gave him a SIM card.

I wanted a full report of what he can "unlock" on first visit....this guy is a good looking fit man.

I later assumed his identity on wechat...of course my girl has NO IDEA.

3 week incamp...I paid him to go 3 x.

I learnt alot!!!!

I was "cured" of my KC and told my girl to fuck off...

anyone got more stories to share???

Why pay him when you can pay any bro in this forum lol.

Some bro might be keen to assist you.
Free bonk x3 lol.

Give you more Intel than you need.

[supercialis]

I needed to have the wechat identity..it was worth it!!!
Plus...those were the days 2024...
with wechat as "him"...I could "talk" to her...chuckles.

[heroi111]

I needed to have the wechat identity..it was worth it!!!
Plus...those were the days 2024...
with wechat as "him"...I could "talk" to her...chuckles.

Another bro told me one good idea.
Be their friend and not lovers.
You get to see more things also.
How they KC other guys directly lol

[supercialis]

yes. But this technique was for me to know just about my own WL who I was then KC.

It provides high quality intelliegence and SITREP ...and I could run a script on her even....I had "fun" altho it hurt me.

[heroi111]

Many of us are hurt by prc wl in one way or another.
Looking forward, just don't love any of them. Bang as friend and we will all be happier.
Cheers!

[siapilot]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

[chrix]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

Haha. Which house ? You can PM me if not convenient to put here.

[superman67]

Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it.:D:D

[supercialis]

SIAPILOT friend....to do a high quality recon...you need to get your man to at least go into the 2 hour booking zone, so your budget needs a bit more.

But I found worth my money, becasue if you look at all the stuff people spend..bags, watches, jewelry..costs thousands!!! Plus heart ache and kena fooled.

What we learn in NS is to do proper intelliegence operations...small price to pay friend.

Plus..I actually found it was quite an "experience"...just like any real spy movie. So many twists and turns....plus because you are running a GHOST agent thru your Wechat identity...your iinfo is real.

Danger is...your man plays double agent.....thats why I used my reservist guy who was my runner....he wont fuck with me.

[evantoh]

Wow....
Actually, why need to recruit.
There are tell tale signs la.
Just that, we refused to acknowledge, admit we kenna KC.

Paid others to confirm this only.

[supercialis]

what to do????
I was just itchy backside!!

[superman67]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

Are u serious ? No need to recruit IO , u will be disappointed when u know the truth. Just Rmbr they are here for money , not relationship. All the tkc are the same .

[supercialis]

nothing beats knowing...and also playing the game in reverse.

this not original to me...I know of these being done by guys who kena KC or in the process of "white knight" ...run these tricks to catch if the girl is fucking around thier wallets .

[pig666]

I tried this during my last reservist in camp.
I got one of my men, who always go Geylang, to visit my PRC girl who I got KC.
Of course, I paid for him...told him to try his best to get her Wechat...gave him a SIM card.

I wanted a full report of what he can "unlock" on first visit....this guy is a good looking fit man.

I later assumed his identity on wechat...of course my girl has NO IDEA.

3 week incamp...I paid him to go 3 x.

I learnt alot!!!!

I was "cured" of my KC and told my girl to fuck off...

anyone got more stories to share???

This story sounds interesting:D. Can share about more details?

[heroi111]

Most of them are the same.
The stupid one will tell you they went out with other guys.
The smart one will say you are the only one she loves lol.

[supercialis]

Siapilot...do not recruit bros from Sammyboy!!!!

You will end up with a double agent.

He would most likely be a guy who he himself is interested in that WL and now, you will be paying him to fuck the girl you like.

He will be very motivated to sign up as your IO and play the game.

BTW..I know WL are not for girlfriends....but life is more than just this...its the game, the chase....this KC and no KC is damned fun!!!!

[supercialis]

This story sounds interesting:D. Can share about more details?
The most telling is Wechat ... and slowly unravelling her booking times.
we could arrange bookings and going out as two different men...can learn alot.

Best advantage is that when I saw the LIES, my heartbreak lasted only 24hours....if I did not use this method...I may always keep wondering....that is what I see bros asking/posting so much on KC.

This method may help them spend less, recover faster.

[evantoh]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

[chrix]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

Bro all these things you listed also can apply to local GF. Just replace other customer with other "guy friends".
And Most local girls will fail this litmus test.

Bro your girl is perfect woman.
I can only hope to meet a WL or local like that in this lifetime.

[superman67]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

This is a very rare wl , almost impossible, however this type must really bail her out n marry her .. :D

[siapilot]

Even if I get most of the above...i would still run one intelligence op.
Better safe than sorry.

[heroi111]

Even if I get most of the above...i would still run one intelligence op.
Better safe than sorry.

Mr Evan will tell you that it is a waste of money lol.

[Hantu69]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

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This is scarce man bro like 1 in a million. You must be blessed to come across this girl. 😉

[siapilot]

Mr Evan will tell you that it is a waste of money lol.
Once kena KC..either waste it this way or another....I feel at least here..i get to see inside or behind the truth...
Of course..by the time I deploy these tactics..i already know the truth.

Its like examining a crime scene. I learn.

[halasb]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

yes. evan is right.

the wl is just kcing you / see you as a client if none of these signs exist.

accept it. never deny reality.

if she does not take the initiative to reach out during code red to chat, if your wechat is all about confirming bookings.

this is a good enough sign. lol

when a woman is interested, her actions us everything

never trust wl words. 撒谎is part of their job. 情绪劳动.

action do not lie.

wake up bro.

[halasb]

yes. evan is right.

the wl is just kcing you / see you as a client if none of these signs exist.

accept it. never deny reality.

if she does not take the initiative to reach out during code red to chat, if your wechat is all about confirming bookings.

this is a good enough sign. lol

when a woman is interested, her actions us everything

never trust wl words. 撒谎is part of their job. 情绪劳动.

action do not lie.

wake up bro.

these are just signs when a girl likes a guy. wl are jus gers.

bros, do not overthink and deny facts.

y delude? its pathetic to be a desperate添狗.

wl will look down on you even more. sinkie men really 需求感高和缺爱。lol

[electronics]

The stupid one will tell you they went out with other guys.

Would it feel better if we know she went out with other bro because it is a 4 digits paid date? but she reserve one day to go out together with no gift requests? Happen monthly during code red.

[heroi111]

Would it feel better if we know she went out with other bro because it is a 4 digits paid date? but she reserve one day to go out together with no gift requests? Happen monthly during code red.
For your case, I kena before.

You are only her friend in her heart. Important as friend only.
Not lover.
If lover, she will reject other man even if it 4 digit date.

Need to wake up.
I was there before.
Just woke up.

[evantoh]

Would it feel better if we know she went out with other bro because it is a 4 digits paid date? but she reserve one day to go out together with no gift requests? Happen monthly during code red.


Code Red is usually reserved for wl lover only, if they have. But sadly for some, she still has to maintain good PR with her big sponsor, so out of the 5 days of Code Red, she has to sacrifice half a day for a PR outing with that 傻逼 as what my wl said.

And what does she get in return? He will give her $2,400 cash for her outing, book a hotel for her to rest because she was so tired spending the night talking to me till early morning, bring her shopping at MBS, get a chanel bag or LV clothes, or van cleef jewellery...etc

Like what my WL said, if she doesn’t go out with him, he’ll feel dejected and might start looking elsewhere. Then she risks losing her big sohai sponsor.

So, in the name of maintaining good PR, half a day has to be given up for the guy even she doenst want to.

And no, i dont even spend a single cent on her code red. She paid for everything including for meals.

[evantoh]

Would it feel better if we know she went out with other bro because it is a 4 digits paid date? but she reserve one day to go out together with no gift requests? Happen monthly during code red.

1 day means she checking if you worth her time. Test market. Usually code red is about 5days la. If she doesnt give you minimum 3days, then bye bye liao.

For my case, even she went out half a day for a paid date, she still make sure she ends early to spend the remaining time with me.

Basically, we meet every day.
So, this is another litmus test.
No means no, no need to 脑补 and think you have 戏

I dont mean to burst the bubbles.
Just play it chill la.
If have good vibes between the 2, just play along.

If dont have, just move on.

[siapilot]

I am single, just 10 years older than she, and I work in China up to 6 months a year...so I have something to try for.
I will take this as a lesson.

[heroi111]

I am single, just 10 years older than she, and I work in China up to 6 months a year...so I have something to try for.
I will take this as a lesson.

In your case, I would suggest you go find university girl.
Virgin and super tight.
She is all your for maybe 10k rmb per month support.
Can consider this option!

Cheers!

[siapilot]

In your case, I would suggest you go find university girl.
Virgin and super tight.
She is all your for maybe 10k rmb per month support.
Can consider this option!

Cheers!
no lah...i already like this girl.
I will go all the way.
I dont want to think and not know for sure.

[heroi111]

no lah...i already like this girl.
I will go all the way.
I dont want to think and not know for sure.

All the best!
Hope you are bro Evan the 2nd.
Cheers!

[supercialis]

no lah...i already like this girl.
I will go all the way.
I dont want to think and not know for sure.
yes. Go for it.
I always admire guys who go for it. Yes...sometimes the odds are against you.
But here..you only loose money n pride.
But either way, you gain character building, and your own truth.....not what others tell you.
You must tell yourself...what are u loosing over what u gain.
You may be hurt or blown away...but look...most of the folks here also learned...thats why they are strong.

If you dont learn now...you may learn later when you are married!!!! Worse!!!

[superman67]

yes. Go for it.
I always admire guys who go for it. Yes...sometimes the odds are against you.
But here..you only loose money n pride.
But either way, you gain character building, and your own truth.....not what others tell you.
You must tell yourself...what are u loosing over what u gain.
You may be hurt or blown away...but look...most of the folks here also learned...thats why they are strong.

If you dont learn now...you may learn later when you are married!!!! Worse!!!
Haha well said , as long as u are happy , it will definitely leave a good memory in your life

[naan1974]

yes. Go for it.
I always admire guys who go for it. Yes...sometimes the odds are against you.
But here..you only loose money n pride.
But either way, you gain character building, and your own truth.....not what others tell you.
You must tell yourself...what are u loosing over what u gain.
You may be hurt or blown away...but look...most of the folks here also learned...thats why they are strong.

If you dont learn now...you may learn later when you are married!!!! Worse!!!

Bro
I m waiting for the revelation leh.
Tell us what happen and also serve as a reminder
to the forum 添狗

[supercialis]

Haha well said , as long as u are happy , it will definitely leave a good memory in your life
women employ PI to check on men....even before marriage .
Men can employ counter intelligence.

Dont sit down...take action.

Depending on your means n resources...of course not here with these women who are essentially at a disadvantage, even if they earn alot of money...they are not really your equals...you are bullying them.

But in the real world, many rich men use these ways to check on their mistress who they already paid alot for....and they will destroy them. Literally. Remove housing and remove all social status. Fuck them dead.

[halasb]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

which prc house?

[CroveTapital]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

I've never been to the KC Powerhouse and I am good at acting. Let me be your Agent 007. :rolleyes:

[evantoh]

Wakao.
I also wanna volunteer.
Except, it cannot be the same house as my ex-wl. Cos i know the whole gang. Later, they baotoh me.

Hahahaha

[halasb]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

You can probably tell when a WL genuinely cares about you or just out to KC you by her actions, not just her words.

- She is willing to let you appear on her social media.
- She doesn’t hide you when she is video-calling her friends or family.
- She makes time for you, even if it means cancelling other bookings when you ask her to.
- She buys necessities for you, like underwear and clothes, helps tidy your place, and cooks for you.
- When she goes out with you, she brings a stash of cash with her because she wants to be prepared to pay for things or buy something for you. She doesn’t want you to worry about spending.
- She will ask you to stop paying just to visit her. Instead, she makes time to meet you after work, every night.
- Her “code red” is strictly reserved for you. If some guy wants to pay her for her time, she will still ask for your permission first.
- She genuinely tries to save money for you and will give you presents, like a handphone because she saw you carrying an old handphone, laptop because your laptop is slow and defective, or even a $20K birthday angbao.
- The first thing she does when she wakes up is call you. She can stay on the phone while she shower till she starts work.
- she also stop replying to clients and take lesser bookings. Even if this means her earnings take a hit but this doesnt matter to her.
- After you part every night, you still talk until the early hours.
- You can check her phones, and she is transparent about her private life. You know her passwords. She set you as the 置顶person in her wechat with a heart shape.
- She is willing to let you see her passport and know her real date of birth. That matters because many WL may not be truthful about their age, so voluntarily showing you her passport is a big sign of trust.
- She will never ask you for presents or cash. I mean never.
- She doesn’t want you to spend unnecessarily because she cares about your well-being. Even when you go out together, she is perfectly happy eating at a food court. Even if you try to bring her to a restaurant, she may still insist on keeping things simple.
- She pays for things herself and even buys fruits for you.
- If you are unwell or there is a special occasion, she is willing to take leave just to keep you company.
- She would rather give up an earning session and spend that time with you.
- And most importantly, when she is with you, she won’t be replying to or entertaining other messages.

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.

this a good list.

tell-tale signs of genuine interes

[bigThumb123]

Good idea!
I want to recruit some "intelligence operatives" to do similar intelligence gathering for me.
Must be reasonably good looking, never visit this PRC house before, will pay for at least 2 or more sessions, must get for me a wechat on a SIM I provide.

I dont need to know your identity.

If you are caught, I will deny all existence of the operation or you.

Applications stop after 1st September....I can only choose 1 operative...no budget for more.

Signing up, Dome 1 enjoyer, never tried the GL legal brothel scene and want to try :D

Chinese and good looking, tall skinny bro. My only credential is that I managed to get free OVN with 2 Dome 1 Thai FLs for free simply because they felt fun and comfortable with me.

[galaxyass]

I was wondering.... why so mafan and hard?

Self diagnose on how to know whether you’ve really kena KC. Hahaha

I share what i experienced.
If i can think of more, will share here.

End of day, whether you pay others or not, you will know the answer yourself. Sometimes, you just refused to accept the truth.
Thats a very comprehensive list here.... it comes from true experience....
Personally i have encounter similar experience but not 100% of everything thats mentioned.
For me, every single day of her off day was spent together and the places we hang out are just regular places which are affordable.... she will accept me anytime when she is not working, code red or MC.... she will even pay for the time extension of the session but of course i did not accept her paying.... she make you feel that you are the only person she is hanging out with.... this kinda exclusive feel is not easy to come by.... but then all good things will come to an end eventually.... we hang on for a short while with each other before moving on..... good memory..... every bro will encounter one or two of such WL.... its an unique experience but you must be able to take care if your hearr so that you dont get hurt too deep....

[evantoh]

Thats a very comprehensive list here.... it comes from true experience....
Personally i have encounter similar experience but not 100% of everything thats mentioned.
For me, every single day of her off day was spent together and the places we hang out are just regular places which are affordable.... she will accept me anytime when she is not working, code red or MC.... she will even pay for the time extension of the session but of course i did not accept her paying.... she make you feel that you are the only person she is hanging out with.... this kinda exclusive feel is not easy to come by.... but then all good things will come to an end eventually.... we hang on for a short while with each other before moving on..... good memory..... every bro will encounter one or two of such WL.... its an unique experience but you must be able to take care if your hearr so that you dont get hurt too deep....

All i can say is..... i still hanging out with her since she rtc
Hahahaha


944336

[halasb]

All i can say is..... i still hanging out with her since she rtc
Hahahaha


944336

evan story is a unicorn.

it attracts sour grapes.

gd response evan

[supercialis]

FR: KL — PRC ex-L16, the Ruyi lookalike, very similar look and no-smile attitude, fuck from afternoon through morning
Giving a FR on how a counter-intelligence agent can cure you of KC by detailing the acts.


I am in KL now, staying at the Hotel good 5star. Meeting up with this WL who I am very sure many of you have been reaming her back in 2025. Raw. PRC, ex-L16.

She is 1.7m easy, looks exactly like Ruyi 16 58A (to me). In fact I now fuck, ream and mouth-fuck Ruyi mainly for this reason.

Anyway.
I am not a sub or a service person. I enjoy fucking a woman in all her holes. To be fair I am Eurasian Chinese n tall, making me my cock 6.5 inches and thick. Many PRC WL don’t like my cock, and maybe that’s where the screams come in.


I have kept in touch with her since she RTC last year or early Jan 2026, can’t recall. Anyway I do send her $500 SGD every now and then on special occasions, so call me a sucker.
We already arranged to meet in my room in the afternoon… about 1 month ago, her sponsor fly her over for 1 week holiday.
The rooms at some KL hotels.. 5 star.. have a high and firm bed (important) and also a bath which can slide a mirrored panel and it opens up next to the bed. Yes, like Geylang. Solid. Bring your ex-WL there when they come back for holiday.
In the lift she was wearing a fitting dress, so I reach up her skirt and pull down her panties. Fully shaved (just like Ruyi, important to see lips wrapped around my cock later) and her legs slim, damned easy to pull the panties right off the ankles and shoes. Never finger yet. Dry. DFK.


Bathroom.
In the room I bath myself. She joins me in the shower. Still remember her old Geylang-style bathing. Start fucking her here raw in bath.
OK, I am really big, so when I stand behind her in the shower I can run my cock from clit to anus — full length, slow, the fat head splitting her shaved lips, catching on the clit, dragging through the slit, then pressing flat against her asshole on the way back. Water sheets off her back. Her ass is right there, high, slim, no fat. I do that slide again and again until her cunt starts to wet the shaft even under the water. She seems to like it. It’s 4pm. I take my time sliding along her two holes. I love anal, so I tell her. She knows. Prepared.


I tell her to bend forward and present her cunt to me. Hands on the tiles, back arched, that short PRC cunt offered. I don’t ram in — maybe still dry. So I notch the head in and push. All the way. PRC women the vagina a bit short. I can often hit the cervix — that hard rounded thing right on the head when I’m fully buried, like knocking bone through wet meat. I stay there a second, grind, then start fucking her standing doggy in the shower.


Water running over her back. Her ass pushed out. My hips slapping wet against her. Cock dragging in and out of that short tight cunt, her shaved lips stretched thin around the thick base, gripping. All cunts are tight for me. When I pull out I can feel her gripping my cock — damned — the lips clinging, trying to keep it. Push in and she laugh. Push harder — scream. I keep talking about the days back in L16 while I fuck her, standing doggy, long strokes then short punches that bounce her cervix off the head. Her hands slip on the wet tiles. I hold her hips and watch my cock disappear and come back shiny.


Now the best place for anal is here in the shower. Needs a lot of lube. A lot. I slide out of her cunt — her lips try to hold me again — lube my cock and her hole properly, thumb her open, then slide slowly into her anus, raw. The head takes time. Once it pops in I start slow, but ohhhh, enjoy, so I ram. She screams. I don’t care. I hold her hips and drive to the root, her ass stretched around the same thick cock that just came out of her cunt, water hitting both of us, her voice bouncing off the tiles every time I bottom out. I ram until I cum — thick pulses dumped straight up her ass. Hold it there. When I ease back you can see my sperm leak out around my cock, white running down her crack with the shower water. Haha.
We bath, order room service. I brought red wine from the store at the station. Sleep.
Wake up at 9pm.

69, then edge of bed.
Start again 69, she on top. Those who love 69 must like the taste. So far only Ruyi and this girl (woman) have the same taste. I like — not musky, thick and wet. She sucks and can lick my cock head well, tongue working the ridge and slit while I bury my face in her and eat. I like looking, and DATY I can’t see nuts — just her shaved cunt in my mouth, lips, hole, her sucking my cock above me, spit and her juice mixing and dripping onto my chin.
Then I stand at the edge of the bed. High firm Hilton bed — this is why it matters. Position her face up and open her, really open her by her ankles, my hips between her hips. This one I go deep. 100% will scream for my size.


Once I grab the ankles, she knows I am going in. I don’t give chance. Open her wide. Press in and out to the hilt, my balls right up against her, in. Her cunt stretched around the thick base, shaved lips pulled flat, cervix taking the head on every stroke. The view is porn: her abs tightening and jumping, no smile, that same Ruyi face looking past me while her body convulses each time I bottom out. I fuck her like that — standing / kneeling missionary at the edge — talking also, long minutes, watching her stomach jump, watching the shaft come out wet and go back in until there is no more length left. Normally I love doing this to Ruyi back in Geylang. Sorry for those who KC on Ruyi, but I highly recommend you do standing missionary on her. The view, her abs, her convulsions from the penetration is enough to make you cum hard.

Standing doggy cock-suck.
After a long few minutes of deep fucking and talking also.. I use my favorite. You can ask all the WL.
Standing doggy cock suck and fingering.


I keep standing at the edge of the bed. Get her to turn around doggy — ass up, face toward me, that same high bed putting her mouth at cock height. She starts mouthing my cock. Sucking. Wet, no-smile, just taking it, lips wrapping the head then sliding down the thick shaft, spit running.
The pleasure comes from reaching forward over her back and deep-fingering her in the ass. One, then two, hooked. Deep hook her into me. Instead of pulling her head onto my cock, I hook her whole body onto my cock — finger in her ass dragging her mouth down the shaft until her throat is on it and her ass is seated on my hand. If she don’t allow anal, I will hook my finger into her cunt the same way as she sucks. Either hole, same pull: I fuck her mouth by pulling her body onto it.

When she feels something...her ass will grip my finger...waaahhh solid.


I watch it. Her ass in my hand, hole stretched on my fingers, her mouth stretched on my cock, spit stringing off her lip, that fully shaved cunt visible underneath. I keep the hook and use her mouth until I seed her — last load across her tongue and lips, some of it she swallows, some of it runs. I will usually cum into her mouth like this in Geylang. I do this to all the WL.. all.. haha.


We sleep. I am selfish. I don’t know if she came. Finger in pussy/ass and doggy felatio simultaneously is addicitve!!!

This is also why reading the actual acts in the bedroom can deter you from being KC. You see how another man enjoys her body much more than you — not the polite booking, not the chat, the real thing: cock sliding clit in the shower, cervix on the head, ram until she screams and sperm leaks out around the shaft, ankles held open in missionary while her abs jump, then doggy at the edge of a high bed with a finger hooked in her ass pulling her throat onto the same cock. Once you read that, the fantasy that she is somehow “yours” dies. She is a body being used. That is the cure.
For this girl the similarities to Ruyi are striking. I think those who know her from 2024 to 2025 know who she is. Same body and looks as Ruyi. Never smile. Can guess?


Always keep in touch with WL. Worth it. Because of the connection, and can meet again.
I already arranged for another meet up in December 2026, and this time with 2 other WL from yes.. L20 and L16 last 2025… all her friends.. keen to come for holiday… haven’t talk price yet… haha… I pay for a suite and airfare to KL. Sorry I am selfish.. I want 2 or 3 girls to myself. Will write FR.


Reunion of old friends!!!


BTW I know two guys here obviously love Ruyi at 16 58A, and … so shout out for her. I love the WL who are not the people-pleaser type. The type I want to fuck till they scream.
If you like her.. go for it. But remember this post.

Ruyi does not offer raw or anal..pls dont ask her.

Now I am currently doing a few new WL at 16 54a...not as well built as Ruyi, or as sultry...but I want to cultivate to meet up after RTC also.

[Matman36]

Thats a very comprehensive list here.... it comes from true experience....
Personally i have encounter similar experience but not 100% of everything thats mentioned.
For me, every single day of her off day was spent together and the places we hang out are just regular places which are affordable.... she will accept me anytime when she is not working, code red or MC.... she will even pay for the time extension of the session but of course i did not accept her paying.... she make you feel that you are the only person she is hanging out with.... this kinda exclusive feel is not easy to come by.... but then all good things will come to an end eventually.... we hang on for a short while with each other before moving on..... good memory..... every bro will encounter one or two of such WL.... its an unique experience but you must be able to take care if your hearr so that you dont get hurt too deep....

Yep similar here, not 100%, but good enough haha. My simpler version of the rules is does she come over to fuck me on her free time, it's quite a good indicator. It's a fine line to walk on, it's easy to get hurt for both side. I recently stopped seeing a WL I used to like very much as she didn't want to hang out anymore. Sad, but good memories still.

The longest I made it last was like 8 months I think, with ups and downs, but we're still cool after she goes back to her country, I'll try to visit her soon. She called me middle of the night recently, I think an ex sister of her saw me with another girl while having a beer and she got upset. They have their own intelligence operatives haha.

[siapilot]

Supercialis bro...you are an inspiration.

I admit..I really like Ruyi, thats why I did FR for her. I still like her.

Now I am into another girl...after reading your post on KL hotel..wow.

Your approach is better than mine...better no KC but make good friends and can do more over the years..hotel can stay over night.

Most of all..recruit her friends can do tarma or 2 men 1 girl, all sorts of fun things which Geylang harder to do....she can choose her own comapanions and come over or I go.

No heartbreaks...all professional and friends.

[galaxyass]

She called me middle of the night recently, I think an ex sister of her saw me with another girl while having a beer and she got upset. They have their own intelligence operatives haha.
Yes... i agree.... i also kena the same before... well... if we get caught i guess its the end of the story and its time to begin a new story.... anyway all these are both side.... its never balanced.... so just moderate and make your own call.....

[siapilot]

which prc house?
bro...thanks to your advice. I told my man to go yesterday. Yes..that specific house we discussed.
Easy to get the WeChat...so far only generic messaging...I think need to have more GFE and visits.
Wasted a 200 bucks.
Not so easy lah.
The FR was abit bland...this spy of mine not a good writer.

[encikamrann]

I tried this during my last reservist in camp.
I got one of my men, who always go Geylang, to visit my PRC girl who I got KC.
Of course, I paid for him...told him to try his best to get her Wechat...gave him a SIM card.

I wanted a full report of what he can "unlock" on first visit....this guy is a good looking fit man.

I later assumed his identity on wechat...of course my girl has NO IDEA.

3 week incamp...I paid him to go 3 x.

I learnt alot!!!!

I was "cured" of my KC and told my girl to fuck off...

anyone got more stories to share???

Encik is impressed!!

Really infiltration! Putting our army knowledge to good use!

share more, what did he unlock/

[naan1974]

bro...thanks to your advice. I told my man to go yesterday. Yes..that specific house we discussed.
Easy to get the WeChat...so far only generic messaging...I think need to have more GFE and visits.
Wasted a 200 bucks.
Not so easy lah.
The FR was abit bland...this spy of mine not a good writer.

Seriously.. you paid someone to fuck the gal you like?

[evantoh]

bro...thanks to your advice. I told my man to go yesterday. Yes..that specific house we discussed.
Easy to get the WeChat...so far only generic messaging...I think need to have more GFE and visits.
Wasted a 200 bucks.
Not so easy lah.
The FR was abit bland...this spy of mine not a good writer.

I honestly don’t understand this logic. You paid someone else to confirm your suspicions, but we all know this involved a transaction, so what you got was essentially transactional affection.

So why go to such lengths to verify it? If you already have doubts, just walk away. I’m pretty sure you could spend the same amount elsewhere and receive the same kind of affection without putting yourself through all this.

In the first place, you don’t go to Geylang looking for a girlfriend or a wife. That’s something every old hand will tell you.

So why get so affected by it? Because you wanted something more? If so, what exactly were you expecting?

After a 2 year stint, all WLs will return to their normal lives. That’s the reality. What did you expect? That she would suddenly want to start a genuine relationship with you? Most wl, if not all will wanna forget this memory of their stay in Singapore. Thats the reality.

You knew what the situation was from the beginning. If you chose to get emotionally invested, that’s something you have to take responsibility for too.

[halasb]

I honestly don’t understand this logic. You paid someone else to confirm your suspicions, but we all know this involved a transaction, so what you got was essentially transactional affection.

So why go to such lengths to verify it? If you already have doubts, just walk away. I’m pretty sure you could spend the same amount elsewhere and receive the same kind of affection without putting yourself through all this.

In the first place, you don’t go to Geylang looking for a girlfriend or a wife. That’s something every old hand will tell you.

So why get so affected by it? Because you wanted something more? If so, what exactly were you expecting?

After a 2 year stint, all WLs will return to their normal lives. That’s the reality. What did you expect? That she would suddenly want to start a genuine relationship with you? Most wl, if not all will wanna forget this memory of their stay in Singapore. Thats the reality.

You knew what the situation was from the beginning. If you chose to get emotionally invested, that’s something you have to take responsibility for too.

wise words from evan.

not every1 is as lucky as evan.

u needs loads of luck.

[halasb]

wise words from evan.

not every1 is as lucky as evan.

u needs loads of luck.

n u dun go in looking 4 it.

if it happens it happens.

[halasb]

Seriously.. you paid someone to fuck the gal you like?

its her job to provide services to anybody who pay.

its a job. that is why she is in sg right? lol

[siapilot]

Seriously.. you paid someone to fuck the gal you like?
I am not paying 200 for the sex act...i am paying for learning more, info....i get off on learning for myself...i dont want to rely on instinct etc etc.
If it hurts....it hurts...i just want to do it this way.

[heroi111]

I am not paying 200 for the sex act...i am paying for learning more, info....i get off on learning for myself...i dont want to rely on instinct etc etc.
If it hurts....it hurts...i just want to do it this way.

Bro.
Do what you like.
But I also learnt the hard way like other bros.
The pain you get from learning the truth might be super painful.
Haiz...

[chrix]

I am not paying 200 for the sex act...i am paying for learning more, info....i get off on learning for myself...i dont want to rely on instinct etc etc.
If it hurts....it hurts...i just want to do it this way.

I am sincerely curious about one thing. Do the bros here feel angry when the WL fuck other cocks. If you are angry, then do you think about bailing her out to RTC . Then she don't need to serve so many cocks a day.
I dont really understand the logic of finding a WL GF/wife. Maybe cos I am a broke and ugly ah pek. Haha.

[siapilot]

They fuck other cocks everyday....i am paying to know the theatre behind n around it

[jorrahli]

From my experience, they are also human and some will be selective on who they KC.

It's a good sign if they want to KC you.

I'd like to believe that the girls don't go out on dates with any customer who asks them.
They may go out with some of them, but probably selective about who. Maybe a regular, maybe someone they have the hots for, someone they find comfortable with, etc.

Just enjoy it while it lasts.

[evantoh]

From my experience, they are also human and some will be selective on who they KC.

It's a good sign if they want to KC you.

I'd like to believe that the girls don't go out on dates with any customer who asks them.
They may go out with some of them, but probably selective about who. Maybe a regular, maybe someone they have the hots for, someone they find comfortable with, etc.

Just enjoy it while it lasts.



I asked my WL why she went out with that guy. She said, Because he’s soft-spoken, maybe safe too, and a 舔狗.😂

Basically, she can scold him, nag him, reject him, and treat him like shit, and he will still come back wagging his tail like nothing happened. That’s the kind of “loyalty” she appreciates. 😂

And honestly, when you look at what he actually does, you can understand why.

He is willing to pay for her FULL DAY session just so she can rest. He literally pays $2,400 so she can take the whole day off. Then brings her to MBS for a walk, takes her to atas restaurants, buys her Chanel bags, LV clothes, Van Cleef jewellery, Lapo gold, YSL shoes, and gives her cash allowance almost every few days in a week, every month.

So let’s be real who else is actually willing to spend like that on her?

It’s very easy to say, I’ll take care of you, I’ll buy this for you, I’ll get you that. But when it comes to actually opening your wallet, suddenly everyone develops amnesia. 😂

Of course thats the beginning she said, but slowly, she just get bored of this 40ish man who is just someone she will never take a look if she is not in this line.

Then you have the next better player. He brings her fruits and replenishes all her ridiculously expensive cosmetics whenever she asks. So, if he asks her out, will she say yes? She said NO, not because he’s married, as she said this guy just looks weak and he also wont bring her out too.

Then there’s another one who is constantly asking her out, talking big about what he’s going to buy for her. But when it comes to actually spending? One or two hours every few weeks.

She basically sees him as one giant cannon fairy, 画大饼 champion. 😂

“I’ll buy you this.”
“I’ll get you that.”
“I’ll bring you here.”
“I’ll spoil you.”

Okay bro, very nice. Where is it? 😂

My WL has already seen every species of man, the talkers, the married ones, the bargain hunters, the “future millionaire” types, the ones who promise the moon but negotiate over two hours, and the ones who think buying fruit makes them husband material.

So at this point, she’s not impressed by promises.

She’s seen enough to know the difference between a man who says “I’ll spoil you” and a man who actually swipes the card.

Talk is cheap. 画大饼 is free.
So no need to flaunt your gold rolex, lambo car key or tell the wl you stay at hamilton condo, bukit timah landed. You are there to impress them for F? She said it bluntly, give me 1k tip then we talk, else show me all these means nothing. End of the day, unless you share your wealth with them, else just F and go.

And she said, end of the day, she is also human. While many here dont see them as 1. She has feelings too. And likewise for the many wl working in GL. They go out for many reasons.

Going out with the big spender is like a duty, she had no choice even if she hates him to the core. She had to squeeze at least half a day during her code red to do PR.

Going out with customers who pay them is like bonus, cos you no need to do anything, got sohai paid everything plus you get money. And may even score a LV, chanel bag. Who knows.

Lastly, most wl has someone they enjoy to be with. And if possible, they will only spend time with that someone. And i remember she said this

如果你有魅力，你不给钱，我都跟你出去玩。
​如果你没有魅力，我牵你的手都是一种煎熬,不跟你拿钱,难道跟你谈感情？

[Rock999]

I tried this during my last reservist in camp.
I got one of my men, who always go Geylang, to visit my PRC girl who I got KC.
Of course, I paid for him...told him to try his best to get her Wechat...gave him a SIM card.

I wanted a full report of what he can "unlock" on first visit....this guy is a good looking fit man.

I later assumed his identity on wechat...of course my girl has NO IDEA.

3 week incamp...I paid him to go 3 x.

I learnt alot!!!!

I was "cured" of my KC and told my girl to fuck off...

anyone got more stories to share???

Anytime you need guy help you counter KC? I am in, of cos you will pay for it right?

[happytree123]

I am sincerely curious about one thing. Do the bros here feel angry when the WL fuck other cocks. If you are angry, then do you think about bailing her out to RTC . Then she don't need to serve so many cocks a day.
I dont really understand the logic of finding a WL GF/wife. Maybe cos I am a broke and ugly ah pek. Haha.

She is really just doing it as a service for reward. Idk why ppl need to overthink so much LOL. Sure maybe will tug some strings in your heart cos sex is both biological and emotional.

But life still goes on right people hahaha

[electronics]

I am sincerely curious about one thing. Do the bros here feel angry when the WL fuck other cocks. If you are angry, then do you think about bailing her out to RTC . Then she don't need to serve so many cocks a day.
I dont really understand the logic of finding a WL GF/wife. Maybe cos I am a broke and ugly ah pek. Haha.

I also don’t understand why many big brothers bring WL out just to buy her LV, Chanel, gold bracelets, etc. Have a meal then the WL returned to the house.

What exactly is fun paying for these?

[heroi111]

I also don’t understand why many big brothers bring WL out just to buy her LV, Chanel, gold bracelets, etc. Have a meal then the WL returned to the house.

What exactly is fun paying for these?

Many bros does this expensive buying because they see wl as love of their life.
Sad but ya....

[niceguydiefirst]

Wl from geylang mostly got do ar and some take 小黑 I will still prefer at least those never do ar to be sex partner or gf if she really wanna settle down. Imagine gonna kiss or french, she ar so many guys.

[Matman36]

Lastly, most wl has someone they enjoy to be with. And if possible, they will only spend time with that someone. And i remember she said this



Last week I was out makan with a few of them again. Every time I chit chat new ones, I like to ask them if they have bf and most of the time, it's yes or kinda yes. Since I already belong to their friend, they are not shy to show me photo of the guy they like. Sometime handsome, sometime not (sometime a tomboy back home if Thai haha). It's mostly like that for all the girls I've talked to, unless they have husband at home, which seems common also (maybe 10-20%, but small sample).

[Xgenre]

Read this online

(Found out my husband’s "high-key reservist ICT" was actually a Batam bro trip with 🐍 friends & working girls. I am numb.

Subreddit: r/singapore raw / advice

Need to let this out somewhere because if I tell my parents now, they will ask me to divorce immediately, and my mind is completely blank.

My husband (32M) told me two weeks ago that he was called up for a 5-day High-Key ICT (In-Camp Training). Everything seemed completely normal. He packed his SAF duffel bag, put on his No. 4 uniform, and even complained about how hot the weather was going to be and how he wasn't looking forward to the 10km route march. He left the house last Tuesday morning.

Throughout the week, he kept his "ICT protocol" strictly. He would text me around 10 PM saying "lights out already, tired, going to sleep," or "day time cannot use phone, commander very strict." I completely trusted him. I even made sure to buy his favorite extra-spicy mala Xiang Guo to welcome him home when he "out-field" on Saturday.

The lie unravelled because of pure stupidity.

On Sunday morning, while he was in the shower, his phone rang. It was a group voice call on WhatsApp. The group chat name was "ICT Sep 2026 - Operation Batam."

I usually never check his phone, but the group name caught my eye. I opened the chat.

There were dozens of photos and videos. No camps, no camo cream, no SAR 21. Just photos of him and three of his NS army mates at a resort villa, drinking beers by the pool, singing karaoke, and posing with several young women in very skimpy clothes. There were text messages discussing how much they tipped the ladies, jokes about "what happens in Batam stays in Batam," and reminders to clear their browser histories before reaching HarbourFront ferry terminal.

He literally wore his uniform out of the house, changed at a friend's place or the terminal, and took the ferry over. He spent 5 days indulging in prostitutes while telling me he was out in the jungle suffering for the nation.

When he came out of the bathroom, I confronted him with the chat open. At first, he tried to deny it, saying they were just "massage therapists" and nothing happened. Then he blamed his friends, saying he was "peer pressured" to go along because everyone in their unit squad does this. Finally, when I showed him the specific messages, he broke down, begged for forgiveness, and said it was a "one-off mistake."

I feel utterly sickened and betrayed. The level of planning and deception it took to pull this off is insane.

Now he is sleeping on the sofa, crying and promising to go for marriage counseling, cut off those NS friends, and give me full access to his location and phone. But every time I look at him, I just feel disgusted. I also need to go get a full STI/STD screening done this week.

Has anyone gone through something similar? How do you even begin to process this kind of calculated deception? Is there any point in trying counseling, or should I just look for a divorce lawyer right away?)

[evantoh]

I also don’t understand why many big brothers bring WL out just to buy her LV, Chanel, gold bracelets, etc. Have a meal then the WL returned to the house.

What exactly is fun paying for these?

Well, if you read about 景甜与孙宇晨, you will know, 1 short & ugly shit millionaire use money to buy love of actress.

So ya, thats why these guys buy expensive goods for wl. Ask them go find local girls, see if they even take 1 look at them.

For the name of love.
Must be true love for these guys ya.


Hahahaha

[heroi111]

Read this online

(Found out my husband’s "high-key reservist ICT" was actually a Batam bro trip with 🐍 friends & working girls. I am numb.

Subreddit: r/singapore raw / advice

Need to let this out somewhere because if I tell my parents now, they will ask me to divorce immediately, and my mind is completely blank.

My husband (32M) told me two weeks ago that he was called up for a 5-day High-Key ICT (In-Camp Training). Everything seemed completely normal. He packed his SAF duffel bag, put on his No. 4 uniform, and even complained about how hot the weather was going to be and how he wasn't looking forward to the 10km route march. He left the house last Tuesday morning.

Throughout the week, he kept his "ICT protocol" strictly. He would text me around 10 PM saying "lights out already, tired, going to sleep," or "day time cannot use phone, commander very strict." I completely trusted him. I even made sure to buy his favorite extra-spicy mala Xiang Guo to welcome him home when he "out-field" on Saturday.

The lie unravelled because of pure stupidity.

On Sunday morning, while he was in the shower, his phone rang. It was a group voice call on WhatsApp. The group chat name was "ICT Sep 2026 - Operation Batam."

I usually never check his phone, but the group name caught my eye. I opened the chat.

There were dozens of photos and videos. No camps, no camo cream, no SAR 21. Just photos of him and three of his NS army mates at a resort villa, drinking beers by the pool, singing karaoke, and posing with several young women in very skimpy clothes. There were text messages discussing how much they tipped the ladies, jokes about "what happens in Batam stays in Batam," and reminders to clear their browser histories before reaching HarbourFront ferry terminal.

He literally wore his uniform out of the house, changed at a friend's place or the terminal, and took the ferry over. He spent 5 days indulging in prostitutes while telling me he was out in the jungle suffering for the nation.

When he came out of the bathroom, I confronted him with the chat open. At first, he tried to deny it, saying they were just "massage therapists" and nothing happened. Then he blamed his friends, saying he was "peer pressured" to go along because everyone in their unit squad does this. Finally, when I showed him the specific messages, he broke down, begged for forgiveness, and said it was a "one-off mistake."

I feel utterly sickened and betrayed. The level of planning and deception it took to pull this off is insane.

Now he is sleeping on the sofa, crying and promising to go for marriage counseling, cut off those NS friends, and give me full access to his location and phone. But every time I look at him, I just feel disgusted. I also need to go get a full STI/STD screening done this week.

Has anyone gone through something similar? How do you even begin to process this kind of calculated deception? Is there any point in trying counseling, or should I just look for a divorce lawyer right away?)

This is like guys here lor.
Go legal house find wl.
But here safer from serious STI/STDs than Batam lol.

[Xgenre]

This is like guys here lor.
Go legal house find wl.
But here safer from serious STI/STDs than Batam lol.

SAF NSF number 1 rule: Do anything you want but don't get caught. Get caught don't complain pay the price.

SAF NSmen applied the rule in civilian life. If you want to steal food to eat, remember to wipe your mouth to remove all evidence.

KNN... got delete browser history. Never change group chat name. Never properly store the photos. Worse is if their wives know each other. 1 kenna caught, all kenna caught.

If the wives call up Mindef, not sure if Mindef will investigate it. If there was a family emergency and their wives call up their unit, WAH...:D

[heroi111]

SAF NSF number 1 rule: Do anything you want but don't get caught. Get caught don't complain pay the price.

SAF NSmen applied the rule in civilian life. If you want to steal food to eat, remember to wipe your mouth to remove all evidence.

KNN... got delete browser history. Never change group chat name. Never properly store the photos. Worse is if their wives know each other. 1 kenna caught, all kenna caught.

If the wives call up Mindef, not sure if Mindef will investigate it. If there was a family emergency and their wives call up their unit, WAH...:D

This is called low IQ soldier lol.
High IQ soldier protect himself and his man lol.

[unfit]

The above shared story was actually similar to Jack Neo reservice movie

Still recall there is some one who actually asked the admin clerk to mail out saf100 in order to smoke his wife completely

Actually last time irregardless low or high key

Every nights off almost all stay out personal will volunteer to stay in

Because whole company will fall in after dinner

Go ktv hc hfj gl tn knn almost all kind can think of:D

Reservice is always the happiest moment of the year ;)

Usually we will go HC spa to shower massage and makan plus one shot

Then go GL 2nd shot

Last ktv drink and sometimes 3rd live firing

Normally 2359 but we book in 0600 :D

Morning fall in all zombies

OC 2IC PC CSM sama sama

Only CO good boy never go

Those days really fun

[naan1974]

I am not paying 200 for the sex act...i am paying for learning more, info....i get off on learning for myself...i dont want to rely on instinct etc etc.
If it hurts....it hurts...i just want to do it this way.

Like they always say
man don't learn from history
they learn from mistakes
well, at least you have some damage control in place

[naan1974]

Many bros does this expensive buying because they see wl as love of their life.
Sad but ya....

A WL as the love of their life? someone they don't even know.
My take, you will only start to know a WL after she RTC, if at all.

[heroi111]

A WL as the love of their life? someone they don't even know.
My take, you will only start to know a WL after she RTC, if at all.

After RTC, if you don't travel to their country, you cannot even see them.
How to love them better?

[encikamrann]

The above shared story was actually similar to Jack Neo reservice movie

Still recall there is some one who actually asked the admin clerk to mail out saf100 in order to smoke his wife completely

Actually last time irregardless low or high key

Every nights off almost all stay out personal will volunteer to stay in

Because whole company will fall in after dinner

Go ktv hc hfj gl tn knn almost all kind can think of:D

Reservice is always the happiest moment of the year ;)

Usually we will go HC spa to shower massage and makan plus one shot

Then go GL 2nd shot

Last ktv drink and sometimes 3rd live firing

Normally 2359 but we book in 0600 :D

Morning fall in all zombies

OC 2IC PC CSM sama sama

Only CO good boy never go

Those days really fun
Encik likes this idea!

the real
AH BOYS TO MEN: Nights off!

A coming of age of some boys on their first ICT, when they are bought out by their section mates!

this one CONFIRM make money, but sure rated R

[unfit]

Encik likes this idea!

the real
AH BOYS TO MEN: Nights off!

A coming of age of some boys on their first ICT, when they are bought out by their section mates!

this one CONFIRM make money, but sure rated R

usually mono intake guys bond very strong

together since day 1 bmt till last day of reservice

kukubird of the same Company bonk together :D

[naan1974]

usually mono intake guys bond very strong

together since day 1 bmt till last day of reservice

kukubird of the same Company bonk together :D

My reservist unit from mono intake was a great example till we stand down.
During reservist, everynight BS at GL, after out process go JB overnight everyone told their wives out field exercise, sibei siong eh !

[chrix]

usually mono intake guys bond very strong

together since day 1 bmt till last day of reservice

kukubird of the same Company bonk together :D

Those were the days past.
I recall we drive to JB the LSB there. One of the LSB is called Sakura. I remembered the company gang bang inside the same room. Somemore double penetration and triple penetration. All raw there like YOLO. Think of it , that was abit risky as the girls look like drug addicts. I don't know if the current gen reservist still do such shenanigans anymore.

[LuisitoAngel]

Those were the days past.
I recall we drive to JB the LSB there. One of the LSB is called Sakura. I remembered the company gang bang inside the same room. Somemore double penetration and triple penetration. All raw there like YOLO. Think of it , that was abit risky as the girls look like drug addicts. I don't know if the current gen reservist still do such shenanigans anymore.

wow! this is hardcore man. prob you guys all MR long time ago. last last ICT was just a few years back, we saw all the new replacement , all the IC number start with S90+ one, felt dam old..

anyone remember BOSS KTV at OT? always wanted to go but too broke during my army time . remember the ah beng beside me when digging mg trench telling me how power the girls were and all!

[supercialis]

Apple tracker placed in your pocket or bag last week by wife.

[unfit]

My reservist unit from mono intake was a great example till we stand down.
During reservist, everynight BS at GL, after out process go JB overnight everyone told their wives out field exercise, sibei siong eh !

Absolutely the brotherhood bond really strong :p

[unfit]

Those were the days past.
I recall we drive to JB the LSB there. One of the LSB is called Sakura. I remembered the company gang bang inside the same room. Somemore double penetration and triple penetration. All raw there like YOLO. Think of it , that was abit risky as the girls look like drug addicts. I don't know if the current gen reservist still do such shenanigans anymore.

hahaha we did the same thing at JB too ;)

Ours was Lion Hotel damn dark all CIP :eek:

Still recall we go behind use rubber hose wash kkb:D

[Xgenre]

If I am the csm in charge of a reservist unit, this is what I will say.

KNN gentlemen. Ask you all come back for training. Fire movement drill you all can fuck up. I shout contact right some of you turn left, some can turn right. But hor inside KTV if one of you see a pretty girl and shout Contact Right! KNN all of you automatically know where to turn

1st ict all you jokers kpkb say faster serve finish faster MR. Last ict you jokers kpkb say next year no more excuse to cheong secretly behind your wife's back. Call you come back you not happy. No need to come back you also not happy.

Which hero say NS 2 years or 2.5 years is called Serve and Forget? KNN gentlemen, 20 year or 25 years after your ord or MR, all the saf lingo and stories you also never forget. Which nickname for Which guy, you die die won't forget.

Limpeh today will teach you all kindergarden alphabets ah. What comes after A? B right? So what comes after SAF? SBF right? :D Remember gentlemen Book-in is SAF time. Book out is SBF time. SAF gives you field training. SBF gives you field mission.

And all you jokers who want to play behind your wife's back, knn you all forget SAF got teach you codenames ah. Everything in whatsapp must write out in plain English is it? Encik teach you. Go pub is exercise resub (resupply). Geylang is called Exercise Motherland. Because many WLs are mothers. WLs are all called Comrades. Go KTV is Exercise Chan Chun Sing. Tie down the codename lah gentlemen so that every mother's son can understand. Only your wife cannot understand.

[unfit]

Our standard 6 high 3 low completed

But most of us didn’t MR

About a quarter of us volunteered for five more cycles:D

All because of BrotherHOOD :p

So that we can continue to HooT ;)

[encikamrann]

Our standard 6 high 3 low completed

But most of us didn’t MR

About a quarter of us volunteered for five more cycles:D

All because of BrotherHOOD :p

So that we can continue to HooT ;)

nice!! that is really brudderhood!! respect!

[unfit]

nice!! that is really brudderhood!! respect!

reservice is the best moment of most Singapore guys :p

[addict999]

Well, if you read about 景甜与孙宇晨, you will know, 1 short & ugly shit millionaire use money to buy love of actress.

So ya, thats why these guys buy expensive goods for wl. Ask them go find local girls, see if they even take 1 look at them.


TS had fallen very deep…remitting $$ every month…舔狗十年一场空，酒吧一夜叫老公
945398

945399

My reservist unit from mono intake was a great example till we stand down.
During reservist, everynight BS at GL, after out process go JB overnight everyone told their wives out field exercise, sibei siong eh !

Those were the days…I missed my ICT especially last day will outpro early after lunch…everyone in platoon will proceed to JB and return home after late night mission before 2359:D

reservice is the best moment of most Singapore guys :p

If I am the csm in charge of a reservist unit, this is what I will say.

KNN gentlemen. Ask you all come back for training. Fire movement drill you all can fuck up. I shout contact right some of you turn left, some can turn right. But hor inside KTV if one of you see a pretty girl and shout Contact Right! KNN all of you automatically know where to turn

1st ict all you jokers kpkb say faster serve finish faster MR. Last ict you jokers kpkb say next year no more excuse to cheong secretly behind your wife's back. Call you come back you not happy. No need to come back you also not happy. Everything in whatsapp must write out in plain English is it? Encik teach you. Go pub is exercise resub (resupply). Geylang is called Exercise Motherland. Because many WLs are mothers. WLs are all called Comrades. Go KTV is Exercise Chan Chun Sing. Tie down the codename lah gentlemen so that every mother's son can understand. Only your wife cannot understand.



Yes Enciks!

[unfit]

Those were the days…I missed my ICT especially last day will outpro early after lunch…everyone in platoon will proceed to JB and return home after late night mission before 2359:D







Yes Encik!

hahaha now I know every unit sama sama:D

[addict999]

Haha night ops ATEC secret mission SOP is approved by KAH and CO!

[unfit]

Haha night ops ATEC secret mission SOP is approved by KAH and CO!

basically all overseas exercises we also go Nite Firing one :D

[Jeremy021]

The above shared story was actually similar to Jack Neo reservice movie

Still recall there is some one who actually asked the admin clerk to mail out saf100 in order to smoke his wife completely

Actually last time irregardless low or high key

Every nights off almost all stay out personal will volunteer to stay in

Because whole company will fall in after dinner

Go ktv hc hfj gl tn knn almost all kind can think of:D

Reservice is always the happiest moment of the year ;)

Usually we will go HC spa to shower massage and makan plus one shot

Then go GL 2nd shot

Last ktv drink and sometimes 3rd live firing

Normally 2359 but we book in 0600 :D

Morning fall in all zombies

OC 2IC PC CSM sama sama

Only CO good boy never go

Those days really fun
this is something that truly bonds singaporean men!

[unfit]

this is something that truly bonds singaporean men!

true blood brothers cos we creamed together:D

[encikamrann]

reservice is the best moment of most Singapore guys :p

isnt it funny. we can all be family men, people in positions out side. but once we go back for ICT, we somehow transform back to our " NSF" feel, just older and with more spare cash to go canteen!

[unfit]

isnt it funny. we can all be family men, people in positions out side. but once we go back for ICT, we somehow transform back to our " NSF" feel, just older and with more spare cash to go canteen!

ya hor even uncle liao still behave like ah boy ;)

true that :D

[Xgenre]

isnt it funny. we can all be family men, people in positions out side. but once we go back for ICT, we somehow transform back to our " NSF" feel, just older and with more spare cash to go canteen!

Many guys don't mind ICT as it gives them time away from work without eating into annual leave. Gives time away from family too. Good break if you are a high income earner. Especially if you are in a reservist unit that is not too demanding.

However, the annual IPPT/RT is knn shag. If only ict comes without needing ippt

[Beng58]

Talking about NS……. My very virgin trip to GL was dragged by my section mate, then the story continues till today. lol

Many guys don't mind ICT as it gives them time away from work without eating into annual leave. Gives time away from family too. Good break if you are a high income earner. Especially if you are in a reservist unit that is not too demanding.

However, the annual IPPT/RT is knn shag. If only ict comes without needing ippt

[Xgenre]

Talking about NS……. My very virgin trip to GL was dragged by my section mate, then the story continues till today. lol

For many of my section mates, their virgin flight was to fly to Brunei. NS was very tiring. There was a guy saying maybe weekend bookout he should go for a massage while looking through the health centre advertisements in The New Paper. None of us saw any problem with what he said then.

[Jhonnysanders]

Talking about NS……. My very virgin trip to GL was dragged by my section mate, then the story continues till today. lol

NS really turn boys to men! that's the singapore way!

[encikamrann]

Many guys don't mind ICT as it gives them time away from work without eating into annual leave. Gives time away from family too. Good break if you are a high income earner. Especially if you are in a reservist unit that is not too demanding.

However, the annual IPPT/RT is knn shag. If only ict comes without needing ippt

trick to use:

once u hit 35, need FFI. Before FFI, go and wack 2x espresso + 1 x monster energy drink

BP bao jump up like crazy. but tell MO u are stressed with work and all.

They will give u PES B4. still combat ready, but no IPPT.

go ICT, can even keng the PT/ running etc.

[unfit]

trick to use:

once u hit 35, need FFI. Before FFI, go and wack 2x espresso + 1 x monster energy drink

BP bao jump up like crazy. but tell MO u are stressed with work and all.

They will give u PES B4. still combat ready, but no IPPT.

go ICT, can even keng the PT/ running etc.

this only works non elite units

cos once pes downgraded

co immediately post the guy out

my buddy failed ippt although pes A also kena

he cry pa cry ma also no use :(

[Jeremy021]

true blood brothers cos we creamed together:D

sperm brothers in the literal sense!

[nanahoriuchi]

I still remember my team cohesions in 新上海，竞歌，BS, New York, bluewave after bookout. Those were the days...

[naan1974]

I still remember my team cohesions in 新上海，竞歌，BS, New York, bluewave after bookout. Those were the days...

Reservist live firing area so similar
Even overseas excercise also same at bluewave :D