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[naturegreen]

I heard from someone saying there are few rare cases where there are some people who are totally immune to HIV. Is this true? And is there any test to check whether you are one of the rare ones? :confused:

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

i dont think so there is a kit to test..its like chicken pox, some ppl will never get it - Me for example ..an old man..

Anyway, you will not want to trust this ..better not know anything, but things might get complicated if ppl were to know of such stuffs & start to ...........you get what i mean :D

[Unrepented]

Two women found with HIV-immune mutant gene
Wang Zhuoqiong
2004-10-01 05:17



SHENZHEN: Two women have been identified as carrying a mutant gene that is immune to HIV/AIDS, the first such cases uncovered in China, a researcher said.

The finding is the joint effort of a research programme, "Association of Human Genetic Polymorphisms with HIV Affections," jointly conducted by the University of Washington in the US State of Washington and local Infectious Disease Hospitals and medical institutions in Guangdong Province.

Tuofu Zhu, associate professor of University of Washington and associate director of the Clinical Core at the Centre for AIDS Research (CFAR), introduced the programme to China a year ago as a part of his global research in nations in Europe, the Americas, Africa and Asia.

"Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races,"said Zhu.

China is now at a key moment in adopting effective measures to control and prevent HIV/AIDS as the disease moves from high risk populations to the general population, in most cases though sexual transmission, Zhu pointed out.

Zhu said that setting up a research centre in Guangdong Province is appropriate as its population has made it the best platform for collecting diversified samples.

"With the largest mobile population in China, we can get samples from migrants who are from other parts of the country," said Zhu.

Since a greater number of patients infected with sexual transmitted disease in particular are reported in Guangdong Province, sample collections are more efficient than other regions in China, Zhu added.

So far, according to Zhu, his programme in Shenzhen has identified 11 Exposed Seronegatives (ES) since January.

Zhu explained that the immune systems of some individuals may be capable of resisting HIV infection. These individuals who do not appear to be infected with HIV despite multiple sexual encounters with HIV infected partners are referred to as exposed seronegatives (ES).

To be specific, any one who has conducted sexual activities at least twice weekly in four consecutive months with an HIV-infected partner might be identified as ES.

Of 11 ES cases, two cases have later been identified as carrying the mutant genes.

In Zhu's opinion, if medicine functioning similarly with the genes was put in the vagina and rectum, the HIV virus couldn't find its carrier to enter the human body and thus would be expelled.

In Shenzhen, both confirmed samples are women who have been exposed to HIV for many years but remained uninfected.

One of them, in her 40s, has kept a regular sexual life with her husband without any protection measures for nine years. Her husband, who was infected with the deadly virus by blood transfusion in 1994, was hospitalized in Shenzhen's Donghu Hospital in July last year.

However, due to the limited qualified samples, Zhu said it is still too early to draw any conclusion from the programme, adding "we definitely need more support from the local hospital, medical institutions and government to collect more data from ES people."


(China Daily 10/01/2004 page1)

[Unrepented]

Studies: Some Immune to HIV

Newsday - July 2, 1998
Laurie Garrett - Staff Correspondent


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Geneva - Researchers have uncovered unusual behaviors of human immune systems that seem to have protected certain babies in Canada, prostitutes in Thailand and Africa, and gay men in San Francisco from HIV, despite exposure to the AIDS virus.
The protections do not appear to be genetic, and may offer some critical clues to those hoping to make a vaccine against HIV.

At Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto, Dr. Kelly MacDonald and a team of pediatricians noticed something odd earlier this year: HIV-positive mothers did not pass the virus to babies who were born with immunologically incompatible blood. In cases of incompatibility, the mother has one genetic type of immune system markers, and the baby a different set. This can put the baby at risk of being attacked by the mother's immune system.

But, in the case of HIV-infected mothers, this immunological incompatibility saved the babies from HIV, MacDonald reported yesterday. The finding was based on a study of 111 mother / child pairs.

MacDonald believes that a key factor in the babies' genetic makeup - called A2/A6802 supertype - by fortunate coincidence prevents HIV from infecting the child. When the mother and child share the same genetic makeup in their immune system, MacDonald discovered, the child is 2.63 times more likely to get infected with HIV.

"Since approximately 40 percent of the population worldwide has the A2/A6802 supertype, it makes it an attractive target for vaccine design," MacDonald said.

The U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention studied 280 prostitutes in Thailand who had worked in brothels for three years or more, and a group of non-prostitute Thai women. Not surprisingly, the prostitutes were far more likely to be infected with the virus, and 47 percent were HIV-positive, the CDC reported yesterday.

Remarkably, however, nine of the prostitutes were negative for HIV, even though they had genital herpes and syphilis - clear indications of unsafe sexual behavior. The women did not have any of the genetic mutations that have been shown to protect some Caucasians from HIV. But they did apparently have complete immunity. Cells of their immune systems were killing every HIV to which they were exposed, the CDC team discovered. And laboratory studies revealed that their CD8 T-cells, a type of white blood cell, were secreting a factor which, when mixed in a petri dish with human cells and HIV, stimulated immune cells to destroy the virus.

Dr. Jay Levy of the University of California in San Francisco has presented evidence of a CD8-produced factor that stops HIV, as well. For years he has tried to isolate the mysterious substance, to no avail. But it could result, he said in a speech, "in a way to maintain control of the virus without the need for antiviral" drugs.

Sharon Stranford, a researcher in Levy's laboratory, examined the immune system cells of gay San Francisco men who have been exposed repeatedly to HIV and never become infected. She said that the CD8 cells in these men make a mysterious factor that protects against HIV. But it is not the same as the one discovered in Thai prostitutes, Stranford said, because it blocks HIV without prompting immune system cells to kill the virus. It works by blocking the ability of HIV to make copies of itself, Levy said.

Finally, a CDC team working in Abijan, Ivory Coast, has also found a group of uninfected prostitutes. They, too, lack any genetic protection. And their ability to fight off HIV is also immunological. The team hasn't yet worked out the details, researchers said, but it is clear that immune system cells in the African prostitutes are highly activated, as if constantly ready to go to war.


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[tomvoyeur]

Hopefully, the end of HIV is in sight for mankind. Make love, brothers! :)

[michaelrocksam]

in the earlier stages of HIV research that they found in San Francisco a gay man survives despite the fact that all his lovers had died from AIDS.

They screened through his blood that they found natural antigen against AIDS. Through investigation they found that the gay man ancestors came from England and that they had survived the bubonic plague in the 1660s.

Yes survived after kena bubonic plague. Its like the AIDS of the 1660.

The family members seldom fall sick after they survived. It was passed down to the gay man thorugh the centuries.

This gay man should thank his ancestors for his genes. But he likes men and dun procreate.

If rsearchers now says it not in the genes who are they kidding and its very rare indeed. Chances of surviving is slim so always be protected.

[Julián Palacios]

Nothing is Impossible! Yeah!

[naturegreen]

So it is true afterall. Thanks bros for the clarifications. :cool:

[comm]

just google 'mindful meditation hiv' for more links

Mindfulness meditation slows progression of HIV, study shows (http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2008/07/24/mindfulness_meditation_slows_progression_of_hiv_st udy_shows.html)

[t123]

Who would have notice that all of our origin is bacteria. There are even some beings that survive million years and still around now. But we should not take things for granted, just like SARS or H1N1, its scary to think how complacement we can be when we think that once again we triumph against nature.

[Frankiestine]

They claimed that some descendants of those with survived the Black Death period has natural immunity against HIV...I think they ran a article a few years back on this gay who had this immunity..

[hunter1222]

I heard from someone saying there are few rare cases where there are some people who are totally immune to HIV. Is this true? And is there any test to check whether you are one of the rare ones? :confused:

While as the reports posted by some brother here,
there are some people who may be immune to HIV,
it would be better to err on the side of caution. :D

ALWAYS PRACTICE SAFE SEX !!!

[Johnston]

The long and short of the matter is that the Human Body (and all its various parts) are freaking complex and we are still discovering things about it every day :D

Medical texts are some of the most boring and hard to understand texts and anyway,...

YES there have been cases of people who had been found immune to HIV due to whatever reasons.

NO there is no known case of anyone being found immune to the other many STD on the market :eek:

Will you be the one who is immune to HIV? MAYBE. Do you wanna take the test? NO Please.

Why is everyone so worry about HIV when there are many other STD like
Chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes , anal cancer, crabs and warts? :confused: and herpes is also incurable.

Warning: Searching for these on Wiki may come with some pictures that make u not want to have sexy time anymore. Do Not Click on any attach Picture in the Wiki Article.

[ch18]

I heard from someone saying there are few rare cases where there are some people who are totally immune to HIV. Is this true? And is there any test to check whether you are one of the rare ones? :confused:

Try fucking a gal who is HIV positive.......
Don't get it then you are the rare one lor.......

[whitegals]

Hopefully, the end of HIV is in sight for mankind. Make love, brothers! :)

I hope you mean with other women and not with each other ah! :D

[goodu]

pity those who were found, they will be treated like lab rats. :(

[SeeGeenNah]

pity those who were found, they will be treated like lab rats. :(

Aiya, not so bad la, at most draw out some blood samples only. Nowadays scientists can do so much with just one tube of blood.

[Johnston]

pity those who were found, they will be treated like lab rats. :(

i dont know about China but in Western u have to have something called Permission and Volunteer for medical testings.

And if u have somthing so valuable like ANTI-HIV in you, u can be sure the Drug Companies going to pay u lots of money ;)

drug companies pay u Money for testings drugs as is and this has happen in sillypore.

[tomvoyeur]

I hope you mean with other women and not with each other ah! :D

Of coz lol. Other ladies can make love WITH me lol.

[AmericanExpress]

a cure almost in sight :)

[Northern]

in the earlier stages of HIV research that they found in San Francisco a gay man survives despite the fact that all his lovers had died from AIDS.

They screened through his blood that they found natural antigen against AIDS. Through investigation they found that the gay man ancestors came from England and that they had survived the bubonic plague in the 1660s.

Yes survived after kena bubonic plague. Its like the AIDS of the 1660.



I watched a documentary on that one and it was a gene they named Delta 32. Tho not sure if it offers total or high immunity as there now seems to be different strains of HIV viruses. I have read about a kit in the market that lets you check whether you have the same immunity but not sure bout its availability in SG.

The same documentary also showed a man dying from AIDS getting treatment using the Delta 32 gene therapy and ended up much better. In France I think, a man with AIDS and leukemia was recently revealed to be tested and AIDS free after he had a bone marrow transplant from a donor who carried the Delta gene.

However, it seems the gene can only be inherited when both parents are carriers and no chance of the gene passing on if only one has the gene.

Not sure if Asians have that gene as well but we may have another gene that does that same thing tho in different way but just not yet discovered ?

[Unrepented]

Just like the movie "I am legend"

Aiya, not so bad la, at most draw out some blood samples only. Nowadays scientists can do so much with just one tube of blood.

[Johnston]

I like to remind everyone that there are many STDs and so far nobody have come up with story of

"i fucked many people with STD raw and i am ok!"

anti-aids gene may existed, but there is no anti-syphilis, anti-gonorrhea and all that jaxzz.

stay safe!:D

[MuffDiver69]

why worry about STD's and AIDS when hepatitis is the biggest killer. there is 1 fellow dropping dead from hepatitis every 6 secs in the world. and just by kissing alone, you can get infected. i think durex better come out with a condom that is big enough to cover the whole body....:D