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stanchen03
12-02-2004, 08:13 PM
Newbie here.
Saw an advert for this newly open joint, several blocks from the office, it looks dignified and thus decide to try my first outing here.
After the massage, I was expecting the questions on whether require extra service, instead she asked whether want to "Jua Gen".
Now despite reading all FR, handjobs, blowjob, got caught off-guard.
Asked her about it and she described it as a Massage of the balls to improve the stamina. $50. No negotiation and she will not do fuck job as the boss have warned them against it. She claims that it is a sepcial skill that only a few of the gals know.
I paid, she massages the balls,the pouch and the stick and finally ended with a hand-job. I think I "feel longer" the next few days. Quite different from the other handjobs (first time from pro)
Now need advise from the other brothers whether this "Jua Gen" thing is really good or just another expensive term for hand-job.
Shooter
12-02-2004, 10:28 PM
which shop you gone to (dont give direct address here in case AV)?? how is the girl?
newyorker88
12-02-2004, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by stanchen03
Newbie here.
Asked her about it and she described it as a Massage of the balls to improve the stamina. $50. No negotiation and she will not do fuck job as the boss have warned them against it. She claims that it is a sepcial skill that only a few of the gals know.
I paid, she massages the balls,the pouch and the stick and finally ended with a hand-job. I think I "feel longer" the next few days. Quite different from the other handjobs (first time from pro)
MAny claim that few know the skills. I have encountered many who offered me this. Like in dragon spa, eniment, casovana, and so on. WHo says that this is a skill few know. Try Newyork spa in Malaysia, all of the aunties offer that, and I find that they do a better job there than any I ever got from singapore, so far.
there use to be a thread on this skill, but it is gone now. hope other brothers here can offer more.
stanchen03
15-02-2004, 01:03 PM
Based on a PM by a brother, I tried Linda at Merlin.
Wow better than the first JuaGen I tried.
However damage is 70 on top of basic 32.
lurpsexx
15-02-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by newyorker88
MAny claim that few know the skills. I have encountered many who offered me this. Like in dragon spa, eniment, casovana, and so on. WHo says that this is a skill few know. Try Newyork spa in Malaysia, all of the aunties offer that, and I find that they do a better job there than any I ever got from singapore, so far.
I went to BlueWave for a massage session and ended up with a Juagen. The auntie ( really auntie late 40++) massage me and did the JG. She pinched the blood vessels and massage the balls and tell me a whole lot of cock theories abt blood flow to the kidneys, back and groin and dun wash ur dicky after cumming or we will kena "wind" to our precious... but i can feel the blood flow to these areas lah, but dunno if it was due to the JG effect or bec she was pinching my bloody balls...
After the session, she say i need to come back for 1 or 2 more session to complete the "treatment". Yeah rite!
Anyway, i cannot feel any significant improvement after this JG session and I guess its up to you to experience lor.....;)
Innoncent$
15-02-2004, 10:28 PM
Indeed, JG had a great debate at here. Just like some guys had said in the earlier of this thread. Really, nobody can tell more detail regard JG that they had experience whether was the 'true' JG. How JG really help in your sex life after done it.
I had tried or experience JG before from different places and persons (Crystal From HC, Annie from LMKC, Jenny from Sunset-NY tuina, Merce from Bali21, so on...). There were some differences which they claimed the methods were from different countries, mostly from traditional china or indonesia. However, I really enjoyed the proccess of JG.
The really so called JG that most people claimed to be effective is they can control your penis. When to let it stand or when to let it 'soft'. Yes, I did had the great experience of that proccess and it is reaaly a good feeling....
That's my 2 cents...
Originally posted by Innoncent$
Indeed, JG had a great debate at here. Just like some guys had said in the earlier of this thread. Really, nobody can tell more detail regard JG that they had experience whether was the 'true' JG. How JG really help in your sex life after done it.
I had tried or experience JG before from different places and persons (Crystal From HC, Annie from LMKC, Jenny from Sunset-NY tuina, Merce from Bali21, so on...). There were some differences which they claimed the methods were from different countries, mostly from traditional china or indonesia. However, I really enjoyed the proccess of JG.
The really so called JG that most people claimed to be effective is they can control your penis. When to let it stand or when to let it 'soft'. Yes, I did had the great experience of that proccess and it is reaaly a good feeling....
That's my 2 cents...
Can advice which aunties in SG that u tired really have the skill to makeit stand and down? So far the ones I tried dun have this 'power' yet leh..sigh
gigantic_tk
17-02-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Innoncent$
Indeed, JG had a great debate at here. Just like some guys had said in the earlier of this thread. Really, nobody can tell more detail regard JG that they had experience whether was the 'true' JG. How JG really help in your sex life after done it.
I had tried or experience JG before from different places and persons (Crystal From HC, Annie from LMKC, Jenny from Sunset-NY tuina, Merce from Bali21, so on...). There were some differences which they claimed the methods were from different countries, mostly from traditional china or indonesia. However, I really enjoyed the proccess of JG.
The really so called JG that most people claimed to be effective is they can control your penis. When to let it stand or when to let it 'soft'. Yes, I did had the great experience of that proccess and it is reaaly a good feeling....
That's my 2 cents...
JG is it squezzing your 'balls' or sensationally tickering your 'balls'.
The latter in Thailand it is called "pingpong' and is addictive. I can still remember a friend of mine while we were in Hatyai, he tried 'pingpong' the 1st time and the following few days he had the urge and needs to go 'pingponging'. Perhaps while in S'pore
he needs to frequent JG,,.......:D
gigantic_tk
17-02-2004, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Innoncent$
Indeed, JG had a great debate at here. Just like some guys had said in the earlier of this thread. Really, nobody can tell more detail regard JG that they had experience whether was the 'true' JG. How JG really help in your sex life after done it.
I had tried or experience JG before from different places and persons (Crystal From HC, Annie from LMKC, Jenny from Sunset-NY tuina, Merce from Bali21, so on...). There were some differences which they claimed the methods were from different countries, mostly from traditional china or indonesia. However, I really enjoyed the proccess of JG.
The really so called JG that most people claimed to be effective is they can control your penis. When to let it stand or when to let it 'soft'. Yes, I did had the great experience of that proccess and it is reaaly a good feeling....
That's my 2 cents...
Sensitivity
17-02-2004, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by lurpsexx
I went to BlueWave for a massage session and ended up with a Juagen. The auntie ( really auntie late 40++) massage me and did the JG. She pinched the blood vessels and massage the balls and tell me a whole lot of cock theories abt blood flow to the kidneys, back and groin and dun wash ur dicky after cumming or we will kena "wind" to our precious... but i can feel the blood flow to these areas lah, but dunno if it was due to the JG effect or bec she was pinching my bloody balls...
After the session, she say i need to come back for 1 or 2 more session to complete the "treatment". Yeah rite!
Anyway, i cannot feel any significant improvement after this JG session and I guess its up to you to experience lor.....;)
Bro I think I knw which lady. Wear spec n short? The few day after she JG mi, my balls pain man. Use yoko to heal my ball. RM70 right?
jasper
17-02-2004, 03:10 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lurpsexx
[B]I went to BlueWave for a massage session and ended up with a Juagen. The auntie ( really auntie late 40++) massage me and did the JG. She pinched the blood vessels and massage the balls and tell me a whole lot of cock theories abt blood flow to the kidneys, back and groin and dun wash ur dicky after cumming or we will kena "wind" to our precious... but i can feel the blood flow to these areas lah, but dunno if it was due to the JG effect or bec she was pinching my bloody balls...
Bro..care to tell me where is Bluewave??? thanks:)
sportmotor
17-02-2004, 04:00 PM
can u pm me the address?
gedangsa
17-02-2004, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by bros
Can advice which aunties in SG that u tired really have the skill to makeit stand and down? So far the ones I tried dun have this 'power' yet leh..sigh
...........
Go try Cindy of Relaxation Health at Grandlink
Cool Shave
19-02-2004, 08:27 AM
For a really true and good JG. Go try Linda at Merlin. She is charging $70 for a truly relaxing session. Furthermore, she has a smooth and firm butt to the touch.
gigantic_tk
19-02-2004, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Cool Shave
For a really true and good JG. Go try Linda at Merlin. She is charging $70 for a truly relaxing session. Furthermore, she has a smooth and firm butt to the touch.
Jane of Mikado had been popular for JG and many bros had tried before, I believe her skill is comparable with the mentioned gals u had tried...;)
powertool69
19-02-2004, 12:09 PM
I'm a sucker for JuaGen at one time. I've tried quite a number of gals mentioned here. IMHO, Linda from Merlin is still the best. Had another gal, Jess from Casanova (I think now left liao), she's equally good. As for Cindy from Granklink..... F**k her JuaGen.... its not JG but sensual massage of the cockhead with her palms with lots of oil. Don't kenna con. If u want good HJ she is the one.;)
Cool Shave
19-02-2004, 12:25 PM
Fully agree with you. I am also a sucker for JG and Cindy just literally twist and turn and shake your dick head with lots of oil till you cannot tahan.
Linda is still the best. Try her, no regrets.
ramrod72
19-02-2004, 01:21 PM
Jua Geng is like a plumber unclogging a drainage pipe. They'll massage the vein connecting the ammo bin to rifle barrel. They massage round the stomach is just to force the blood into the crotch area. So now the rifle is at "Hormat Sejantah" and the "elephant" in barrel is gone, your projectile can travel further.
I believe it'll help the older more pill dependant men than the fully functional well oiled new weapon.
But the feeling's great. From what I've been told, the actual ones do not make you cum in the end. The ones here tops of with a cum to justify the charges.
So if you're talking about the authentic ones, yes there are only a few. The rest? Well it they make you feel good, why bother? As long as it doesn't damage the firing mechanism. You don't want to "IA" when you're shooting right?
;)
iluv69
22-02-2004, 01:24 PM
I wonder if that Exxxx still aroung in that HC in Miramar Hotel?
She's suppose to be the queen of JG
Innoncent$
23-02-2004, 10:43 AM
Just return from ICT.... Okay that is some info for whoever wish to try ...
Well, as I had mentioned in my previous posting in this thread. However, I don't whether these gals still work at these outlets since my last vist them....
Doris at Green Life Reflexology MC @ Keong Saik;
Merce at Bali 21 @ Bali Lane;
Serene at Nanyang @ Sunset Way (Clementi);
Jenny at Nanyang @ Sunset Way (Clementi);
Crystal at Novena HC.
Have a nice 'treatment'....;)
rockon
23-02-2004, 01:14 PM
FYI bro powertool69,Jess is back in Cassanova oredi. Mi personal JG lao chio favs r May(Cassanova),n Estee(Dorris).Looking @ them wit mi legs spread while they sat in between JGening mi,sure was a mind bowing experience.
Explorer2
23-02-2004, 06:35 PM
Hi all,
My personal favourites are Linda of Merlin and Estee from Dorris....
Still prefer Estee over Linda, prefer the teacher over the student...
As for others like Cindy of Novena, she is good but she is not a looker and has a bony frame....
cheers,:D
bestbest
23-02-2004, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Explorer2
Hi all,
My personal favourites are Linda of Merlin and Estee from Dorris....
Still prefer Estee over Linda, prefer the teacher over the student...
As for others like Cindy of Novena, she is good but she is not a looker and has a bony frame....
cheers,:D
What about Estee's god sister, Mandy? Quite a looker though not as young but younger than Estee. Mandy is a lau chio or lau sui i mean. JG as good or as painful as her god sister Estee. Good figure still though not under tbe big boobs category....
powertool69
24-02-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by rockon
FYI bro powertool69,Jess is back in Cassanova oredi. Mi personal JG lao chio favs r May(Cassanova),n Estee(Dorris).Looking @ them wit mi legs spread while they sat in between JGening mi,sure was a mind bowing experience.
Great to know Jess is back!! will seek her out.... btw, between Estee n Linda... who is the better looker? who has the better JG skills?
The Renegade
24-02-2004, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Innoncent$
Just return from ICT.... Okay that is some info for whoever wish to try ...
I just returned from ICT too... perhaps we attended the same one... :D
rockon
24-02-2004, 02:37 PM
bro powertool 69,lookswise,i find Estee more chio,but then "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".As 4 skills,both BOLEH.
stanchen03
25-02-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by bestbest
What about Estee's god sister, Mandy? Quite a looker though not as young but younger than Estee. Mandy is a lau chio or lau sui i mean. JG as good or as painful as her god sister Estee. Good figure still though not under tbe big boobs category....
Please advise on Jua Gen prices of
- Estee of Dorris HC
- Mandy where
- Cindy of Novena
milffella
25-02-2004, 10:54 AM
still waiting for your reply,your balls keep where.dun come out and tok when your balls keep inside your pussy hole.
bestbest
25-02-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by stanchen03
Please advise on Jua Gen prices of
- Estee of Dorris HC
- Mandy where
- Cindy of Novena
Estee - $60 - her JG can be painful
Mandy - Dorris - $60 - her JG is just as painful
Cindy - not sure, never tried.
Innoncent$
25-02-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by The Renegade
I just returned from ICT too... perhaps we attended the same one... :D
Are you in PDF?
The Renegade
25-02-2004, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Innoncent$
Are you in PDF?
Erm... nope... haha... wrong guess on my part... oops...:D
geremi03
25-02-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by bestbest
Estee - $60 - her JG can be painful
Mandy - Dorris - $60 - her JG is just as painful
Cindy - not sure, never tried.
I agree with bro bestbest that their JG can be painful and please be "warned" that your didi better not cum (ejaculate) or else they will charge you another $40.00 penalty for shooting out !!! (this is their rules !!) total damage then becomes $100.00 and you won't even have a chance to touch them as during JG they sit between your open legs pulling at your balls.
If you are thinking of having fun and value for money I would advise you to take a miss on the both of them unless you can stand the "pain" and want to find out what JG is all about then pay and experience the "pain".
Am I right bro bestbest ??
AVIATION
26-02-2004, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by bestbest
Estee - $60 - her JG can be painful
Mandy - Dorris - $60 - her JG is just as painful
Cindy - not sure, never tried.
Is JG really that Fun and Good for our didi ?
After few tries...........I don't think JG is fun.......In fact JG is painful at times.......especially those not so professional......and don't think JG is good for the didi head........rubbing that part too often cause lost of sensitivity n subsequently loss the fun in sex.....
shioker
24-05-2004, 09:05 PM
I'm a sucker for JuaGen at one time. I've tried quite a number of gals mentioned here. IMHO, Linda from Merlin is still the best.
Bro, I'm new here! Can i know where's Merlin? Wats Linda's damage for JG?
power69
25-05-2004, 09:34 PM
Bro, I'm new here! Can i know where's Merlin? Wats Linda's damage for JG?
suprise to find new bird looking for those old timer auntie, shld look for other younger gals, and start a new trend/thread
Explorer2
26-05-2004, 01:39 PM
What about Estee's god sister, Mandy? Quite a looker though not as young but younger than Estee. Mandy is a lau chio or lau sui i mean. JG as good or as painful as her god sister Estee. Good figure still though not under tbe big boobs category....
Have not tried Mandy yet though heard of her...
Read somewhere before she got attitude problem??
dunno whether its true...
i personally think Estee quite lao-chio already...
her C - D cup boobs are a killer and i always cum when she JG me...
cos i will knead and lick those boobs...
occasionally sliding my fingers into her panty...
shiok mann...
But she may be abit too old for most bros here....
forex
26-05-2004, 02:16 PM
suprise to find new bird looking for those old timer auntie, shld look for other younger gals, and start a new trend/thread
i think this bro is quite wise to choose "auntie" because young inexperience young girl may screw up his manhood for the rest of his long life ahead. thai ones is another story.
but anyway, when i was young, i do prefer older women so this bro if wrong also got wrong right :D
newyorker88
26-05-2004, 02:43 PM
Is JG really that Fun and Good for our didi ?
After few tries...........I don't think JG is fun.......In fact JG is painful at times.......especially those not so professional......and don't think JG is good for the didi head........rubbing that part too often cause lost of sensitivity n subsequently loss the fun in sex.....
Since when gua gen got rub your head? I tried many times in JB and the feeling is not like what some brothers here saying that rubbing the dick head frequently only.
Just to share what I have in Malaysia.. The feeling is that they "catch the veins" near the balls, not on your dick head. And the emphasis is on the bottom of the dick, not at the head.
I had experience before of a unprofessional, most of the time, they try to rub your dick head only, to spice up your feeling of the head of your head. Of course, I rather go to malaysia nowadays, becos I felt that they do a good job there, especially the old aunties in NY Spa, JB.
Of course, after a good rub, and A Gua Jen, u feel good, and usually they PCC for you in NY Spa... Not like some brothers here claiming that you have to add in another 40, that is a rip off....
chinchai
26-05-2004, 03:14 PM
Since when gua gen got rub your head? I tried many times in JB and the feeling is not like what some brothers here saying that rubbing the dick head frequently only.
Just to share what I have in Malaysia.. The feeling is that they "catch the veins" near the balls, not on your dick head. And the emphasis is on the bottom of the dick, not at the head.
I had experience before of a unprofessional, most of the time, they try to rub your dick head only, to spice up your feeling of the head of your head. Of course, I rather go to malaysia nowadays, becos I felt that they do a good job there, especially the old aunties in NY Spa, JB.
Of course, after a good rub, and A Gua Jen, u feel good, and usually they PCC for you in NY Spa... Not like some brothers here claiming that you have to add in another 40, that is a rip off....
Bro. NewYorker, Will appreciate if you care to give some direction of where is NY SPA and damage info?
tank103
12-06-2004, 10:34 AM
Heard alot abt the JG experts, finally went down dorris yesterday. As Estee was booked, got Mandy instead.
As it was my 1st time at Miramar, took some wrong turns before getting to Dorris from the carpark.
WAs greeted by a lao auntie with glasses at recept, she told me to pay $57 for entrance as it is std! got a shock, :eek: so expensive.....after a bit of complianing she then said $57 is for 1 hr & told me can opt for 45min at $38. KNN lau CB wanna pull a fast one on me....
Went down a spiral staircase to the room. Took a bath & waited abt 5min b4 Mandy walked in. Think she's in her early 40s. Like some bros mentioned, she is a lau chio, still shapely. Told her finally met the jg expert to break the ice abit....
Lied on the bed & she wrapped 2 towels round the feet. another 2 towels covering the thighs & chest seperately. Before starting, she said that JG will be std at $60. HJ will be another $40. ie., total $100. She said std price to all, cannot bargain.....even after some bargaining still she stick to the price.....ok lor, me say go ahead with the jg.....
Her jg was quite an experience. sometimes painful but shiok. starting from rubbing the stomach then to groin area. then rubbing the thighs. then the balls & dick....very systematic & professional, very unlike those PDMMs outside who claimed they know jg.
after 45 mins, end with some shoulder & head massage before ending the session.
Look: 7.5/10 (for her age)
Body: 7.5/10 (did not touch, she said real jg better no hard on)
HJ/FJ : did not try
Damage: $38 + $60
Value for money: Ok if $60, but expensive if include entrance fee (personal opinion, pls dont flame)
wah this was one time did not do anything inside the room.....hahaha....wat an experience..... :p
bestbest
13-06-2004, 10:39 AM
Heard alot abt the JG experts, finally went down dorris yesterday. As Estee was booked, got Mandy instead.
As it was my 1st time at Miramar, took some wrong turns before getting to Dorris from the carpark.
WAs greeted by a lao auntie with glasses at recept, she told me to pay $57 for entrance as it is std! got a shock, :eek: so expensive.....after a bit of complianing she then said $57 is for 1 hr & told me can opt for 45min at $38. KNN lau CB wanna pull a fast one on me....
Went down a spiral staircase to the room. Took a bath & waited abt 5min b4 Mandy walked in. Think she's in her early 40s. Like some bros mentioned, she is a lau chio, still shapely. Told her finally met the jg expert to break the ice abit....
Lied on the bed & she wrapped 2 towels round the feet. another 2 towels covering the thighs & chest seperately. Before starting, she said that JG will be std at $60. HJ will be another $40. ie., total $100. She said std price to all, cannot bargain.....even after some bargaining still she stick to the price.....ok lor, me say go ahead with the jg.....
Her jg was quite an experience. sometimes painful but shiok. starting from rubbing the stomach then to groin area. then rubbing the thighs. then the balls & dick....very systematic & professional, very unlike those PDMMs outside who claimed they know jg.
after 45 mins, end with some shoulder & head massage before ending the session.
Look: 7.5/10 (for her age)
Body: 7.5/10 (did not touch, she said real jg better no hard on)
HJ/FJ : did not try
Damage: $38 + $60
Value for money: Ok if $60, but expensive if include entrance fee (personal opinion, pls dont flame)
wah this was one time did not do anything inside the room.....hahaha....wat an experience..... :p
Good to know that Mandy is still at Dorris. About 2 moons ago, she told me that she might move to another place. Tot of calling her to check where she is now before I got to read this FR.
You FR is accurate. But if you take the one hour session, you would also get a very good and hard massage...could can be painful to some people though.
However, I dun agree that $38+$60 is expensive because it is a hc with facilities...hot pool, sauna, steam bath and even dim sum on the house. You can even go for a swim at the swimming pool just outside the hc.
However, do agree $60 for a jg or hj is slightly higher than the market rate of $50 in hc context. Some gals like for instance, Jane of Casanova, charged even much higher. It is therefore for you to judge whether the quality of jg does merit the premium.
When I started out with Mandy, I thought she was arrogant and that her massage plus jg were painful and expensive. Nearly boycotted her but later realised that her massage was actually good and solid. Also later reaslied that she was friendly and chatty.
Yes, you are right, she is not only a lau chio but also a lau sui. I am never a sucker for lau chios but feel that she is an exception. She can still maintain her shape and look despite her age (in her 40s). Only thing is that she does not have boobs as big as the likes of her god sister Estee.
So far I have not been successful in persuading her to do a fj. She claims that she never does that. However, she does allow me to slip my hand into her bra. But would only limit me to her right breast as she claims buddha is on her left (heart). She also allows me to slip my hand into her G string but does not allow me to dig into her pussy. Anyway, quite difficult to do it unless she puts on a skirt. She does not strip and she would normally sit wrapping your legs on her waist while doing jg or hj. Thus, a bit difficult to touch her body unless you sit up. Sometimes, I would ask for a hj. She would then do a bit of jg first. She would get up and come nearer to me on getting the cue that I wanna to touchee. She would then jerk me off with a hj. $60 for that and not $100. $100 only if you opt for a pure jg and if you come before the job is completed.
Will be visiting Mandy again real soon. Will also continue to persuade her for fj.....
tank103
14-06-2004, 08:34 AM
yo bro bestbest, perhaps u are right the overall px may not be that expensive considering the facilities. as i went straight in & out the room i did not use the facilities........
couple2massage
02-10-2004, 04:03 PM
Hello everyone :-)
Am glad that there are many of you out there who have experienced and described the process well.
Jua Gen / Manhood Therapy / Prostrate Massage / PingPong / Chasing Dragon.... as they are called by many names.... is actually a very good therapy that helps to unclog the veins and strengthen the "rod".
For the yonger people...... it helps to keep things working right so that you can go for your "In camp training" to do "range firing"!!! ;-)
For the older "Young at heart" folks, this will help them to maintain and achieve a more responsive "little companion". This is done by massaging the "companion" and help blood flow....
If a Gentleman is to look at it from a very decent way, it is good for health and ....... another bro is right here..... should NOT CUM.
We recommend that after the therapy, drink a can of WARM GUINNESS STOUT..... get a good night's sleep and you will really know the difference the next morning..... :-)
Don't just take my word for it..... do a self test or find your regular lady.....
You and her can feel the difference!!!
You will be harder and stronger..... and chances are that you will be able to maintain a eraction for a longer time..... and when you CUM, there is a "shooting" feeling instead of a weak flow kinda thing.
We have seen and cared for many guys and ladies in different state of readiness..... and as long as you are patient, you will achieve results.
Just enjoy the aching kinda of "shiok" pain feelings. It should never be a piercing kind of pain.
Have fun,
Jenny and Den
Couple2Massage
:)
ordinaryguy123
02-10-2004, 04:10 PM
I wonder if that Exxxx still aroung in that HC in Miramar Hotel?
She's suppose to be the queen of JG
It's Dorris HC, brother. She has got a "tu di" who work in the same HC. Forget the name of her "tu di". Maybe any brothers here can help out.
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