View Full Version : Sex appeal is define from a man's earning in Singapore.
Xccess
22-04-2010, 10:48 AM
Seems like we have to earn more to be appealing....:rolleyes: Maybe its time for us to raise a placard stating our salary and take a walk in Orchard road. Lolx
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The Chinese daily also highlighted an article criticising Singaporean women for being snobbish and not wanting to date men who earned less than they did no matter how good looking they were.
The article claimed that in a survey, it was found that Singaporean women found a man earning S$8,000 (RM19,200) sexy, even if he was ugly in real life.
The survey, which was carried out by Razor TV, said the sexiness of a man had no direct correlation with his physical appearance but to his salary.
The online television service’s product unit had taken photographs of three men and showed them to women on the streets, asking them to give their opinions before and after revealing their wages.
The results showed that a handsome man who was scored highly by the women had his marks “deducted” after it was revealed that he earned less than his “competitors”.
In their interviews, the women said the type of car driven by the men also affected their sexiness.
However, they denied being snobbish, adding that men’s income reflected their personality.
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Here's the link. Victim relates years of rape ordeal on TV (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/4/22/nation/6103397&sec=nation)
doublekeen
22-04-2010, 10:57 AM
It has always been about the $. Been on 1st dates and the 2 questions asked were "how much u earn and do u drive". So.... If u are a man of good income.... Ur cock can be 3 inches long u may have a beer belly that sticks 6 inches out and the women will still love u as if u have a 7 inch with 6 pac.
I am not trying to comment on all women i "know aiya.... not all are like that" but arent they all married or attached already?
So whats left for me and the rest of the hopefuls on sbf? WL?
After the raid FL will become a dying breed.
No FLs nvm? Hell no. TY MDA for banning all the pornsite.
Xccess
22-04-2010, 11:10 AM
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Bro, I've been away from Singapore for about 5 years, now I stationed in KL, got a wife here 2 years ago. "Generally" (Not all, in case I kena flame) most girls have such demand in Singapore, it's the society that greatly affect everyone of us.
It's good to venture out of the comfort zone once awhile. Frankly I'm still very proud to be a Singaporean as I have travelled many countries and seen alot of them struggling with politics, crime is everywhere too. Just cherish what Singapore have to offer and if you deem the girls are too materialistic, there's always other alternative.;)
Cheerz
machinehead1234
22-04-2010, 11:46 AM
Used to stay in Singapore and there's definitely a strong vibe from the womenfolk there, with regards to material possessions and the like. As an expat in Singapore, women would always assume that you are a prized catch regardless if you are actually on company's expense and just a middle-top level management. I have seen many fellow counterparts getting laid, and i swear this are some of the people that wont even get a second glance back home! Seriously. All they have is just maybe a nice apartment in the River Valley area (paid by co), an entry level luxury car (2.0 litres and above) and its wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
Not to say this is only prevalent in Singapore, but problem is - its explicitly put across in their intentions. Somehow you know that the person is only with you for ulterior motives. Kinda of a turn off.
Bro, I've been away from Singapore for about 5 years, now I stationed in KL, got a wife here 2 years ago. "Generally" (Not all, in case I kena flame) most girls have such demand in Singapore, it's the society that greatly affect everyone of us.
It's good to venture out of the comfort zone once awhile. Frankly I'm still very proud to be a Singaporean as I have travelled many countries and seen alot of them struggling with politics, crime is everywhere too. Just cherish what Singapore have to offer and if you deem the girls are too materialistic, there's always other alternative.;)
Cheerz
unsung80
22-04-2010, 11:49 AM
it's good to venture out of the comfort zone once awhile. Frankly i'm still very proud to be a singaporean as i have travelled many countries and seen alot of them struggling with politics, crime is everywhere too. Just cherish what singapore have to offer and if you deem the girls are too materialistic, there's always other alternative.;)
cheerz
i fully agree!
Xccess
22-04-2010, 12:03 PM
Used to stay in Singapore and there's definitely a strong vibe from the womenfolk there, with regards to material possessions and the like. As an expat in Singapore, women would always assume that you are a prized catch regardless if you are actually on company's expense and just a middle-top level management. I have seen many fellow counterparts getting laid, and i swear this are some of the people that wont even get a second glance back home! Seriously. All they have is just maybe a nice apartment in the River Valley area (paid by co), an entry level luxury car (2.0 litres and above) and its wham, bam, thank you ma'am.
Not to say this is only prevalent in Singapore, but problem is - its explicitly put across in their intentions. Somehow you know that the person is only with you for ulterior motives. Kinda of a turn off.
Bro. I totally agree with your point. I'm sure this happened in any well developed countries. I have good income with plenty to splurge after setting aside a sum for savings but as you highlighted knowing a person with ulterior motives is a super turn off for me too. ;)
"Anything that can be bought with money, is not worth the keeping especially with it comes to girls."
_AXL_
22-04-2010, 02:18 PM
However, they denied being snobbish, adding that men’s income reflected their personality.
can someone explain to me how that works???:confused::confused::confused:
DieCorkStand
22-04-2010, 02:38 PM
Bro, I've been away from Singapore for about 5 years, now I stationed in KL, got a wife here 2 years ago. "Generally" (Not all, in case I kena flame) most girls have such demand in Singapore, it's the society that greatly affect everyone of us.
It's good to venture out of the comfort zone once awhile. Frankly I'm still very proud to be a Singaporean as I have travelled many countries and seen alot of them struggling with politics, crime is everywhere too. Just cherish what Singapore have to offer and if you deem the girls are too materialistic, there's always other alternative.;)
Cheerz
Yes I agreed ..Thats why I said many singaporean don no whatthey don o ...
I ahve been travel very intensively aroun the south east region these few yeas.
After landing in Singapore, I feel so lucky and happy.
Just that too many people think they deserved more ....than they are capable of
Xccess
22-04-2010, 04:05 PM
can someone explain to me how that works???:confused:
Maybe they find man with good income can get alot of things. Such as LV Shirt & Tie, LV boxer shorts, LV Pants & Belt, LV Shoes, LV Hair Gel, LV toothpick.....aiyaa just everything LV lah. When u wear everything that is LV, it will create personality lorrrr:o:o:o
jacky43
22-04-2010, 05:18 PM
I beg to differ, watched "Fire of conscience'', a senior 90s actor, don't remembered his name. This scene he told Richie Ren, something liked this.
''A man seek success in his career not his woman". Not told by director so i imagine, Richie's character as a cop was outstanding. But he felt for a girl fr the underworld. His superiors bypass his promotions, office politics will have it. Not so in real life, there r many others better than him. There can only be 1 promotion!
In real life, maybe? Senior enforcement officers r not dumb, promote somebody who is clean. Pointless future found out the corruption give themselves bad image.
However, looking at the good side, guys with career minded is on par with those who allready make it. Is just a matter of telling the gals to look into her and mine future. Hope young punks will not use it to con SYTs. Pls b responsible, do the right thing.
_AXL_
22-04-2010, 05:46 PM
Maybe they find man with good income can get alot of things. Such as LV Shirt & Tie, LV boxer shorts, LV Pants & Belt, LV Shoes, LV Hair Gel, LV toothpick.....aiyaa just everything LV lah. When u wear everything that is LV, it will create personality lorrrr:o:o
LV sells personality!!! no wonder the niteclub girls love buying LV!!!:D
thanks for the explanation. guess i've got no personality.:(
OralMaster
22-04-2010, 06:32 PM
Bro, I've been away from Singapore for about 5 years, now I stationed in KL, got a wife here 2 years ago. "Generally" (Not all, in case I kena flame) most girls have such demand in Singapore, it's the society that greatly affect everyone of us.
It's good to venture out of the comfort zone once awhile. Frankly I'm still very proud to be a Singaporean as I have travelled many countries and seen alot of them struggling with politics, crime is everywhere too. Just cherish what Singapore have to offer and if you deem the girls are too materialistic, there's always other alternative.;)
Cheerz
bro mind to share how malaysian girls are like compared to sinkies girls?
DarthRevan
22-04-2010, 06:48 PM
In ancient times, man is judged based on their strength & the ability to hunt & put food on the table.
Modern man do not hunt anymore, so now the yardstick is how much a man earns to determine whether he's a good potential partner.
simple2kee
22-04-2010, 07:56 PM
"Anything that can be bought with money, is not worth the keeping especially with it comes to girls."
bro, good point, i do agree. :)
Uujaan
22-04-2010, 08:18 PM
Sometimes, it is not really that we don't want SG gals and go for foreigners. But some locals expect so much but have so little to offer. I make a decent wage that by the report in this thread would be graded as "attractive", but I sincerely wish that it is more than my earning capabilities that makes me "attractive" :(
tomvoyeur
22-04-2010, 08:23 PM
thanks for the explanation. guess i've got no personality.:(
Of coz!!! Where's the one drink u promised we will have together lol! :p
machinehead1234
23-04-2010, 11:52 AM
Just to sidetrack a little. Singaporean women always give me the impression that they are extremely vindicative and there is a constant need to "one-up" anyone else just to prove their existence/authority.
Just to cite an example, i was caught in one of the long flight delays in an Asian country recently, and the behavior of a female Singaporean passenger disgusts me. She was nit-picking on the poor customer service staff although in my opinion as a frequent flyer, the airline had been doing all they possibly do. (And a good job, i must add). It was not something i would like to take away, but the parting shot i heard was something along the lines that "...i know your management people and give me your name..."
Just the other day in Tokyo where i am based, i also had the privilege of meeting up with some colleagues from Singapore. It was just a simple dinner gathering or sorts, but somehow the topic veered to that of gender equality in Asia. It was totally uncalled for, but there was a female exec in the group that went on and on and on about how women are undermined in singaporean society and that singaporean men make lousy superiors...Well, a little women's lib is perfectly fine but the tone and the aggression certainly put a damper on everyone's spirits (there were 2 singaporean male colleagues there) considering the informal setting. I just wonder - if all that anger is really necessary to prove your point that singaporean women are the dominant gender in society??
Just my humble contributions. Perhaps deviating from the subject thread.
Castrol
23-04-2010, 12:32 PM
LV sells personality!!! no wonder the niteclub girls love buying LV!!!:D
thanks for the explanation. guess i've got no personality.:(
bro just wear your LiVerpool jersey and got personality already lah. :D
jacky43
23-04-2010, 02:16 PM
Last Tuesday report, a Chinese lady who married a Malay man. She converted of course than, this week a 26yrs female , married a 44yrs old man . He also brought along 3 boys fr his previous marriage.
What is the authority doing? Are they telling local females just take, not much choices available in the market? Locals men has much to choose this gen, PRC Viets Indo etc.
Maybe i'm wrong, guys r determine by $ in his pocket. While ladies must b beautiful, at least above average looks. Eg, Miss Riss Low 1smart pretty girl who plan for her retirement, maybe future?
Umarried guys don't really have problems this gen, my neighbour son got married to a PRC. Heard after brokeup with 2local girls, he decided is enough. He is 26yrs old, rather young don't u think?
see see only
23-04-2010, 02:36 PM
What is the authority doing? Are they telling local females just take, not much choices available in the market? Locals men has much to choose this gen, PRC Viets Indo etc.
Nevertheless agreed ... we guys got more choice now but they (local girls) dont seem to understand and felt that they are still one class above the rest ... :rolleyes:
bro mind to share how malaysian girls are like compared to sinkies girls?
They are much better in general :D but catching up with the $$$$ minded as well :(
Xccess
23-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Ris Low did it again.....lolx:cool:
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Former Singaporean beauty queen Ris Low does not mind marrying an ugly man as long as he is rich because he can then opt for plastic surgery, reported China Press.
Low, who had to quit the Miss World 2009 contest after being exposed as a credit card cheat last September, was among women featured in an online television survey which showed that Singaporean women preferred men with money over looks.
“Even if he doesn’t, I still don’t mind. As long as he is rich, it means I’ll be leading a better lifestyle.
“He can buy anything for me and I no longer have to worry about money. This is how realistic life can be,” she said.
Low said a man whose income matched a woman’s expectation would automatically be accepted, regardless of his looks.
Radio DJ Ye Limei was also reported as saying she would consider men who were financially capable.
“It is not about going the good looks. What a woman hopes is to have a financially capable man, who can take care of her for the rest of her life,” she said.
Protocol Academy Pte Ltd founder and director Teo Ser Lee said she would also opt for men who were financially capable.
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i wear a Chelsea shirt...do i have personality? :p :D
JWNY
jacky43
23-04-2010, 03:13 PM
Local ladies r educated, better jobs more spending power and career minded. A lady friend who is 40plus, not married bought a flat, shared name with her mother. Like that also can, partly it encourage ladies not to marry off.
Well my friends, everybody have a choice, go in with eye big big. Personally, i still think a lady should eventually marry off, experience love and joys of motherhood. If she feel $ is more important than the career of her future hubby, so b it.
Then, wait for the next rich guy to come in. Finally, she lose out, onces age caught up, is kind of older gen ppls said, put on shelf and sell off. Men marry younger girls ppls will said, very the can some might say powerfully. Eg, Marcus Chin who can satisfied younger wife.
LeMans
23-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Well... I had read the article on the Chinese newspaper last Tuesday.... I strongly agree that money rules especially with deep pockets for a man, the women around him will be more femine and prefer to be the slave..... Just as the saying goes: No Money No Honey.... So we SG Men, gotta work our ass off to bring in a bigger slice of the bread and butter, together with a fatter piece of bacon to supplement our SG gals if we ever want to marry a local SG gal as our wife...... Else, like my friends alway said: OUTSOURCE - is the best choice to find a wife who is much lower in terms of living standards and education and not much demands...... Maybe from HCM or some village in China.... Well.... Everywhere is the same..... Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai or Singapore - Ladies who work in major cities will tend to have a higher expectations.... So if we want a modern lady... then we gotta earn a modern up to expectation salary.... if not, we can conceal to fate and only ask for ancient type of wife..... Just my 2 cents worth of comments.....
_AXL_
23-04-2010, 03:20 PM
In ancient times, man is judged based on their strength & the ability to hunt & put food on the table.
Modern man do not hunt anymore, so now the yardstick is how much a man earns to determine whether he's a good potential partner.
in that case, why wont women not admit to that, giving us the cock-and-bull story instead??? shameful, isnt it???
and how many alpha males are there in this world??? whatever happened to love??? what do these women have to offer to make them think that they deserve such men??? i dont have much contact with really rich men in sg, but in the course of my work, i do encounter obscenely rich indonesian businessmen.
their wives have been brought up to have perfect manners, perfect elegance and immaculate composure. more importantly, these women would bring rich families together in business, thus strengthening each other's business. pretty no use one. their manners and elegance cannot be learnt overnight, it takes a lifetime of proper parenting. now, these women deserve to be queens/princesses, cos they know how to behave like one.
really, it is no wonder tiger woods got into so much trouble... what people fail to see is that for every tiger woods out there, there are at least 14 sluts out there who thought nothing of breaking up his family...
Of coz!!! Where's the one drink u promised we will have together lol!
i thought u r still in incense harbour??? i havent gone drinking for 9 months liao. leopard can change its spots one...:D
bro just wear your LiVerpool jersey and got personality already lah.
i have been wearing them quite often this season, esp the day after they lose a match... but it is adidas lah, not LV. neither adidas nor liverpool sells personality.;)
Johnston
23-04-2010, 03:28 PM
in that case, why wont women not admit to that, giving us the cock-and-bull story instead??? shameful, isnt it???
sells person)
Because one must maintain a facade of respectability.
Everybody knows what's going to happen to the bride tonight, and what happened to the pregnant woman. :rolleyes: (fine fine there's always the turkey baster).
BUT who will say so out loud? Except for a bit of tame jokes, will u dare to go on the mic and say "Oi, tonight sure fuck her hard hard hor?" :D Nope. Not gonna happen.
The ultimate purpose of being in a relationship is to have sex but we pretend it's not , for some strange reason.:eek:
really, it is no wonder tiger woods got into so much trouble... what people fail to see is that for every tiger woods out there, there are at least 14 sluts out there who thought nothing of breaking up his family...
Bro, well said and many of us have given up on Sinkie women. You and Tom V are living proof!
Hope you are well....you owe me a beer too BUT i will buy you one if you let Chelsea win at Anfield :D
JWNY
_AXL_
23-04-2010, 03:41 PM
“Even if he doesn’t, I still don’t mind. As long as he is rich, it means I’ll be leading a better lifestyle.
“He can buy anything for me and I no longer have to worry about money. This is how realistic life can be,” she said.
i really pity her, and her generation. but at least she is honest enough to say it. bastardisation of the english language, media whore who thought nothing of making a fool of herself. actually, i think she doesnt know that. but she is honest, and that is a very big redeeming factor.:D
Protocol Academy Pte Ltd founder and director Teo Ser Lee said she would also opt for men who were financially capable.
she of all people should know that even a very stable business can go bust anytime... :rolleyes:
i wear a Chelsea shirt...do i have personality?
JWNY
u look like a boss, behave like a boss and articulate well. no need personality lah...:D:p
_AXL_
23-04-2010, 04:01 PM
Because one must maintain a facade of respectability.
Everybody knows what's going to happen to the bride tonight, and what happened to the pregnant woman. (fine fine there's always the turkey baster).
BUT who will say so out loud? Except for a bit of tame jokes, will u dare to go on the mic and say "Oi, tonight sure fuck her hard hard hor?" Nope. Not gonna happen.
The ultimate purpose of being in a relationship is to have sex but we pretend it's not , for some strange reason.
facades!!! well said. but to these women, marriage in no longer sacred. it is just a monetary transaction. in that case, would we be wrong to call them whores???:rolleyes:
being in a marriage is also for companionship, to share and get thru thick and thin together, for better or for worse, to work towards goals together. not only just for sex. otherwise, i would have married a ktv mummy cos she gave me the best BBBJ in my life.:D
Bro, well said and many of us have given up on Sinkie women. You and Tom V are living proof!
Hope you are well....you owe me a beer too BUT i will buy you one if you let Chelsea win at Anfield
JWNY
err... i m old man liao, but i do have a good memory. i bought drinks during our 1st meeting at intercon. tot u said u would buy the next time???:confused:
there r good sinkie women, just that they r already attached, married, turned lesbian or dead. just kidding. i cant speak for tom but i was very lucky. i went out looking for a good woman, period. regardless of nationality.
at for chelsea, how about liverpool beating chelsea and chelsea still lift the premiership??? me sick and tired of wearing my liverpool sweater to work this season liao.:(
DarthRevan
23-04-2010, 06:16 PM
in that case, why wont women not admit to that, giving us the cock-and-bull story instead??? shameful, isnt it???
Marriage is a social institution & a socially accepted license for sexual intercourse. Of course there are some people seek their sexual needs elsewhere besides marriage.
Love? Fools rush in where angels fear to tread! :D
tecko
23-04-2010, 07:01 PM
you dont need to be good looking, tall . you just need to be rich enough to make the woman turn off the lights and bend over for you
Absolute
23-04-2010, 11:45 PM
To be fair to our Singaporean women, I must speak for them.
I don't deny that there are many Singapore women here who are practical when it comes to choosing a spouse but what's wrong with being practical?
You guys are not willing to accept that our Singapore women are choosy and compared them to the Third World Country women whom you swear are less choosy.
For all you know, your dream mates in these Third World Countries are also very choosy because they do not want to choose their own Third World men. They believe that the Sinkie men are "more developed" and Sinkie men really thought that these Third World Country women are less choosy than our Singapore women.
In Mathematics, there is a thing called scaling.
Just like some of you here who claimed that you belong to the income bracket that is deemed "attractive" by our female friends, I have my fair share of meeting both Singapore women, PRC, Vietnamese, Thai, Indonesian, Philippines, Malaysian, etc women and I have also no lack of women from these Third World Countries professing their loves for me and even dreaming to marry me and have children with me. But when you get to know them better and deeper, you will find that they are mostly the same as some of our Singapore women - they reject their own men from their countries in search of a more "attractive" men elsewhere for security reason except that many of you refuse to see this or are simply ignorant.
The other day, a fat and balding taxi driver proudly boasted to me that when he met his wife who is from the kampong area in Thailand, he only had $40 in his pocket and his the-then Thai girlfriend knew it but still chose him. He was 48 and she was 21 when they met 8 years ago. Does this story convince many of you that women elsewhere are less materialistic than Singapore women?
Using the Principle of Scaling in Mathematics, you might discover that the taxi driver's young Thai wife was not really in love with him when they met. For all you know, she might have rejected her own Thai men and chose the taxi driver by virtue of the good image of the Singapore branding, including its own men.
But I did not have the heart to poke holes of doubts into that taxi driver's confidence because he really believed that he had found true love without the slightest contamination of financial stability or money for short. Ignorance is bliss in this case.
doublekeen
24-04-2010, 12:44 AM
All Sg women are moneywhores the rest are faithfully attached or married.....
Elwina
24-04-2010, 01:06 AM
To be fair to our Singaporean women, I must speak for them.
I don't deny that there are many Singapore women here who are practical when it comes to choosing a spouse but what's wrong with being practical?
You guys are not willing to accept that our Singapore women are choosy and compared them to the Third World Country women whom you swear are less choosy.
For all you know, your dream mates in these Third World Countries are also very choosy because they do not want to choose their own Third World men. They believe that the Sinkie men are "more developed" and Sinkie men really thought that these Third World Country women are less choosy than our Singapore women.
In Mathematics, there is a thing called scaling.
Just like some of you here who claimed that you belong to the income bracket that is deemed "attractive" by our female friends, I have my fair share of meeting both Singapore women, PRC, Vietnamese, Thai, Indonesian, Philippines, Malaysian, etc women and I have also no lack of women from these Third World Countries professing their loves for me and even dreaming to marry me and have children with me. But when you get to know them better and deeper, you will find that they are mostly the same as some of our Singapore women - they reject their own men from their countries in search of a more "attractive" men elsewhere for security reason except that many of you refuse to see this or are simply ignorant.
The other day, a fat and balding taxi driver proudly boasted to me that when he met his wife who is from the kampong area in Thailand, he only had $40 in his pocket and his the-then Thai girlfriend knew it but still chose him. He was 48 and she was 21 when they met 8 years ago. Does this story convince many of you that women elsewhere are less materialistic than Singapore women?
Using the Principle of Scaling in Mathematics, you might discover that the taxi driver's young Thai wife was not really in love with him when they met. For all you know, she might have rejected her own Thai men and chose the taxi driver by virtue of the good image of the Singapore branding, including its own men.
But I did not have the heart to poke holes of doubts into that taxi driver's confidence because he really believed that he had found true love without the slightest contamination of financial stability or money for short. Ignorance is bliss in this case.
well said bro!
oldlady
24-04-2010, 02:40 AM
Interesting Thread .
This is my take on this issue
Actually the root if this issue might have arised from certain policies adopted by our government , in the 70s they have had a policy of "stop at 2" and this lead to parents indulging their kid with more material items as opposed to previous generations where the norm was to have 5 or more kids and basically sharing the items are being cooped in smaller housing and next encouraging ladies to work after marriage and study further which are good things btw i am no male chauvinist pig and the serving of national service by males however this policies have created a delicate situation where the ying and yang are not in harmony in terms of perspectives of the male and female ideas aspirations & outlook. With a smaller family unit there strong tendency to spare the rod & spoil the child in turn creating spoilt kids who then turn out to be self centered adults this applies to both males & females.As the females have a head start in not serving national service they finish their studies earlier and start working and climbing up the corporate ladder while males have to serve 2-2.5 years to the nation and thus lose a competitive edge to females and play catch up in latter years, The girls of the same age with guys will feel better empowerment because they would be drawing better pay and higher postions and would look towards finding a soul mate that is better equipped than a guy who is of her equal or lower pay scale. Perhaps there is need to re look into phscye of our society and place emphasis on character building among the young so that a least the next generation will not face these issue or have some moaning about this in 2020 in sbf :p
Sex appeal creates the initial attraction but to take things further there must be more substance and for that matter materialistic views or items will only last a while as well .There is no one that is rich or poor forever so ladies and gentlemen give both yourselves an opportunity to engage with understanding love and care and of course common sense.
Hope i have not rambled on too much :)
Have a great weekend to all
Ed is on
24-04-2010, 02:44 AM
Of course havent u guys realised that almost everything in everyday life has direct or indirect correlations with money?
From the moment u wake up, u squeeze ur toothpaste money is involved already.
when u dress for work, the clothes u buy again money involved
when u go to work via transport, money again
when u work in ur company, for income or for interest? money again
when u return home, transport money again
when u meet ur love ones for dinner money for dinner
when u sleep under the shelter of ur homes, u need money to pay the housing loans
Even when they say money cant buy love, sorry to say u need money for the movies/dinner/date whatsoever
Every fucking thing in life needs money even fucking itself needs money, u need to buy food to get the energy to fuck, and if ur wife gets pregnant u need money to support your newborn's livelihood if u dont want ur spouse to get pregnant u need to buy a condom. Theres not a fuking single option where u can choose to not spend a single cent on.
Hence it is not wrong of woman to define sex appeal from a man's earning(money) in singapore.
To be fair to our Singaporean women, I must speak for them.
I don't deny that there are many Singapore women here who are practical when it comes to choosing a spouse but what's wrong with being practical? Practical? We're trying to find the link to sex appeal as per topic
You guys are not willing to accept that our Singapore women are choosy and compared them to the Third World Country women whom you swear are less choosy.
For all you know, your dream mates in these Third World Countries are also very choosy because they do not want to choose their own Third World men. They believe that the Sinkie men are "more developed" and Sinkie men really thought that these Third World Country women are less choosy than our Singapore women. I think that is not the point, and if we compare apple to apple, is Singapore - supposedly a first world country, to be compared with a third world country example? Maybe we can change the perimeters. USA, HK...up to you
In Mathematics, there is a thing called scaling.
Just like some of you here who claimed that you belong to the income bracket that is deemed "attractive" by our female friends, I have my fair share of meeting both Singapore women, PRC, Vietnamese, Thai, Indonesian, Philippines, Malaysian, etc women and I have also no lack of women from these Third World Countries professing their loves for me and even dreaming to marry me and have children with me. But when you get to know them better and deeper, you will find that they are mostly the same as some of our Singapore women - they reject their own men from their countries in search of a more "attractive" men elsewhere for security reason except that many of you refuse to see this or are simply ignorant. We really have to explore disadvantages of being a Sinkie woman at this stage, the women's charter already implores more than sufficient "coverage" for being a damsel in distress in our little red dot. Or am i getting ahead of myself now?
Just in my opinion, i think your theory is rather flattering towards our women. If a Sinkie lady, decides to leave her husband after 10 years of marriage because of outside factors, example - a recession, does that gives her every right and "practical" reason to leave her husband? No, play along these lines with me...deep pockets can only go so far
The other day, a fat and balding taxi driver proudly boasted to me that when he met his wife who is from the kampong area in Thailand, he only had $40 in his pocket and his the-then Thai girlfriend knew it but still chose him. He was 48 and she was 21 when they met 8 years ago. Does this story convince many of you that women elsewhere are less materialistic than Singapore women?
Using the Principle of Scaling in Mathematics, you might discover that the taxi driver's young Thai wife was not really in love with him when they met. For all you know, she might have rejected her own Thai men and chose the taxi driver by virtue of the good image of the Singapore branding, including its own men.
But I did not have the heart to poke holes of doubts into that taxi driver's confidence because he really believed that he had found true love without the slightest contamination of financial stability or money for short. Ignorance is bliss in this case. First, you are merely using an assumption. You can't be 100% sure that it was not love, but that's beside the point. Second, we are just not debating on money, the tangibles of love and marriage are being used for this discussion. i think you have mistaken the words, practical and choosy. There's a very big difference.
It's really insulting you cited your example. You are severely mistaken to think that Thai men are lazy, uneducated, wife-beaters, etc. I pity that taxi driver for being used as your case study, do you know how affluent the Thai Kingdom has become? Many of them are far, far richer than your taxi driver. Wake up and smell the coffee my fellow samster. :cool:
JWNY
Manfese_Widz
24-04-2010, 10:17 AM
being in a marriage is also for companionship, to share and get thru thick and thin together, for better or for worse, to work towards goals together. not only just for sex. otherwise, i would have married a ktv mummy cos she gave me the best BBBJ in my life.:D
LOL, bro, I dun mind marrying that kind of "Mummy", and to think about it, not a bad idea to have an Alpha-Women taking care of your needs (sexually & financially) in life then trying so hard to be an "Alpha-Male" which in our local context, carrys no "Alpha" in it so long you dun earn enough for her to spent! :D
A (local) female friend once defines to me what is a successful man and women
Successful Man is one who earns a lot of $$$
Successful Women is one who marry that kind of man..
:eek:
Reality bites.
pokeman71
24-04-2010, 10:26 AM
My female colleague did mention, looking for bf or hubby, is like investment. They will rather to get a blue chip over a sino share.
How how much earn per month will consider got personality.
Tripster
24-04-2010, 10:37 AM
Welcome to the Material World...it is always about the money at first...because money satisfies the bottom of Maslow's needs theory...we are no longer in the olden days. It is therefore very natural to consider money as a way to get security for the future. If the sex is great, it is a bonus...
If your money tree is downright unbearable, there are always the option to try other fruits, since you can easily afford it using your money.
That is how it is...tough.
By the way, women in Singapore are fast getting beyond the money issue, since now many women earn as much as men...
peace :D
Johnston
24-04-2010, 12:47 PM
you dont need to be good looking, tall . you just need to be rich enough to make the woman turn off the lights and bend over for you
Money does not purchase love in the classical sense. The butterfly lovers werent at all rich, were they? In fact, so many of those love stories have the female explicitly refusing marriage in the household of a rich fellow. :cool:
SUre, you may be able to purchase ""love", in the sense that you are having sex, but i wonder what's gonna happen when your money dissapears. Nope. No more love for you.
At the risk of sounding (goddamn broke), i am capable of enticing MILFy ladies out for dates etc but there is NO MONEY for any real relationship .
Money, also does not purchase THIS! STOMP - Singapore Seen - Chinese man marries dead bride murdered 8 days before marriage (http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/this_urban_jungle/357288/chinese_man_marries_dead_bride_murdered_8_days_bef ore_marriage.html)
:eek:
Cerberus
24-04-2010, 01:49 PM
This issue had been debated time and time again.
Seriously, what type of guys/gals you want to spend the rest of your life with is a very personal choice.
You accept him/her, you have to accept his/her other traits.....be it bad or good.
Yes, marrying a rich guy will guarantee a life with no $ worry......whether the gal will be happy ever after.......only she will know.
mldue
24-04-2010, 09:13 PM
This issue had been debated time and time again.
Seriously, what type of guys/gals you want to spend the rest of your life with is a very personal choice.
You accept him/her, you have to accept his/her other traits.....be it bad or good.
Yes, marrying a rich guy will guarantee a life with no $ worry......whether the gal will be happy ever after.......only she will know.
"life with no $ worry" is probably the only worry they have, for now?
after all, if the marriage fails (if it evers gets there), the women's charter will ensure that as well.
why won't anyone (female) consider a win-win bet...
Absolute
24-04-2010, 11:47 PM
Practical? We're trying to find the link to sex appeal as per topic
I think that is not the point, and if we compare apple to apple, is Singapore - supposedly a first world country, to be compared with a third world country example? Maybe we can change the perimeters. USA, HK...up to you
We really have to explore disadvantages of being a Sinkie woman at this stage, the women's charter already implores more than sufficient "coverage" for being a damsel in distress in our little red dot. Or am i getting ahead of myself now?
Just in my opinion, i think your theory is rather flattering towards our women. If a Sinkie lady, decides to leave her husband after 10 years of marriage because of outside factors, example - a recession, does that gives her every right and "practical" reason to leave her husband? No, play along these lines with me...deep pockets can only go so far
First, you are merely using an assumption. You can't be 100% sure that it was not love, but that's beside the point. Second, we are just not debating on money, the tangibles of love and marriage are being used for this discussion. i think you have mistaken the words, practical and choosy. There's a very big difference.
It's really insulting you cited your example. You are severely mistaken to think that Thai men are lazy, uneducated, wife-beaters, etc. I pity that taxi driver for being used as your case study, do you know how affluent the Thai Kingdom has become? Many of them are far, far richer than your taxi driver. Wake up and smell the coffee my fellow samster. :cool:
JWNY
Did you say assumption?
From the start, aren't your myopic lop-sided views of Singapore women based on the assumptions from your tinted glasses?
Don't over-assume things. By the way, where and when did I mention about the Thai Kingdom not becoming affluent.
You merely took the typical Sinkies approach by standing on the majority's view in this thread to play the popularity game. Yawn.......
I have already said my part to be fair to the Singapore women who probably have lesser opportunity to say their piece in this forum than the male Samsters here. As such, I shall not read any more follow-up of this thread which will only waste my brain cells.
cpgoer
25-04-2010, 12:11 AM
handsome, low cash = find pros...
handsome, high cash = GAY...
ugly, low cash = find pros...
ugly, high cash = women come come...
sun814
25-04-2010, 01:19 AM
let the sg girls be choosy for all they want to, not to say that we guys don't hv the right to choose too right? i consider myself that i earn more than the average singapore man, but i still chose a prc over singaporean girl when marriage.
handsome, low cash = find pros...
handsome, high cash = GAY...
ugly, low cash = find pros...
ugly, high cash = women come come...
bro this makes some sense...but i'll rather be handsome+low cash than ugly+high cash.
pinklingerie
25-04-2010, 09:04 AM
maybe to be fair,
most of the girls would want a decent earning salary husband,
enough to support the family, and maybe have a nice holiday with the kids when holiday period..etc
imho,
16-23 year old girls : they dream of fantasy, prince charming, white gallant, rich, got car, handsome, whatever it happen in fairy tales
23-25 year old girls : they get exposed more to the society after coming out to work from uni/poly. they mature, they feel its time to settle down if a Mr Right comes by.
25-30 year old girls : 2 stages. either is very settled down in career, no wish to get married anymore. or still in search of a Mr Right.
truthfully I feel girls will be affected by the earning power of the men. Of course, if we take 2 men to compare, same time wooing the girl,
Guy A :
1) meet house downstair, take public transport
2) try to meet midnight bus or last train
3) peak hour cannot find cab, perspire like hell in the hot sun
4) Mon - Sun eat hawker, maybe once in a blue moon eat restaurant
5) go clubbing no table, use entry coupon redeem for free drinks
Guy B :
1) drives a car, better still, an convertible,coupe,turbo,flashy car
2) every evening go normal restaurants/cafe for dinner
3) occasional dines in high fine dining places
4) VIP entry to clubs, guest lists, always open bottles on table
5) every here and then buy present, not say everyday but LV GUCCI la, maybe reasonable ones like necklace, pendants, silvers, roses, you know..etc
I can't stereotype. but I feel that I have seen most of my female friends more attracted to Guy B. If both men woo her at same time, who would you take if you are a female?
My 2 cents of thoughts, bros.
Manfese_Widz
25-04-2010, 12:38 PM
bro this makes some sense...but i'll rather be handsome+low cash than ugly+high cash.
Bro, from your reply, i guess you're kindda young still huh? early 20s?
Had the same thinking as you when I was in my teens, and well early 20s. But then, now, older, I rather be ugly+high cash. With cash, i can go plastic surgery! :)
钱不是万能,但没钱是万万不能! :D
Xgenre
25-04-2010, 01:28 PM
Actually, is this a Singaporean woman's problem? I think some of the comments are a bit too harsh. Guys, if you earn 3X more than your current pay now, how will you feel? So if you are earning $3k now, how will you feel or change if you earn $9k now? Will you feel more confident in life? Will you feel sexier? Will you be looking at different levels of the same things, like condo instead of hdb, like lexus instead of toyota?
I think sex appeal is PARTLY defined by a man's earning capacity. A bro here mentioned that if an ugly guy earns $8k a month, ladies will even view his 3 inch dick as if it's a 7 inch dick. Well, if I'm that ugly guy and I earn $8k/month, my 3 inch dick will also feel like a 7 inch dick, regardless of the presence or absence of any ladies.
When a guy is poor, he may think of sex with fb, ons or fl if he is single. If a guy is rich, he may think of sex with fb, ons, fl or mistress if he is single. I've never met a poor guy who is thinking of having a mistress. So why do some rich men have mistresses? Because their earning power is high enough for them to feel sexy and confident about themselves perhaps?
If a poor guy feels victimised because people think he earns little and thus isn't appealing, instead of complaining, perhaps he can go do a business or study somemore to increase his pay. The only long term solution is to be a high income earner, I guess. My 2 cents worth... Not fair to totally blame the materialistic ladies if we guys do view our sex appeal as a function of our income too.
freezetheDB
25-04-2010, 02:05 PM
power is the greatest aphrodisiac. In the current society, money and power are inter-related.
with power, naturally comes money.
with money, you have some sort of power (purchasing power)
Shazam
25-04-2010, 02:29 PM
In this era whereby cost of living is high and salaries are low, Singapore society will be deformed.
If you observe, value of salaries these days are lower than in 1980s. Your salaries are practically eaten up by many fixed costs (internet, mobile, utilities, car, house etc) per month.
Government already say SGD 5000 and below per month is low income group.
Middle income group is SGD 6000 to SGD 10000.
This is why Government raise their own pay to meet the higher cost of living but make the private sector look like sweatshops by opening floodgates to Foreign Talent.
They only have a one fixed method for solutions and that is to make people pay more.
Life will be bleak for your children and grandchildren if the same government remains in power.
Xgenre
25-04-2010, 02:47 PM
Government already say SGD 5000 and below per month is low income group.
Middle income group is SGD 6000 to SGD 10000.
Where did u get your stats from? I think the low income group is anyone who earns $1500 per month and below.
Shazam
25-04-2010, 02:56 PM
Where did u get your stats from? I think the low income group is anyone who earns $1500 per month and below.
HDB raise eligibility of 3-room buyers from SGD 3000 to SGD 4000.
Newspaper sometimes use SGD 10000 as middle income group.
We know the government use the term "low income group" whenever it suits their political needs. The range averages SGD 1000 to SGD 5000.
But honestly, if you earn SGD 5000 per month, in these days, I do not think it is enough to cover the basic necessities anymore as compared to 10 years ago.
Unless, you do not want car, house, mobile, internet, movies etc
Then why you work for ? Just to pay government bills??
I work to cover my own life, not government's life.
MoralEpitome
25-04-2010, 04:30 PM
This is a very pragmatic society...it's the same everywhere... i give you example.... if spend $2000 at a ktv....you get treated like a king...every waiter waitress manager suck up to you....you spend $200 you get sop service...
Even you go food court.... u go in singlet and shorts...auntie will just call you A....you dress in smart office wear....auntie call you sir or lao ban....
In fact this should spur us on to achieve more in life and quit lamenting on how superficial singaporean girls are... in fact i hate these bitches....but that's life... we can always go for more easily contented girls who would treat us better...
Bro, from your reply, i guess you're kindda young still huh? early 20s?
Had the same thinking as you when I was in my teens, and well early 20s. But then, now, older, I rather be ugly+high cash. With cash, i can go plastic surgery! :)
钱不是万能,但没钱是万万不能! :D
Haha, bro u r really lao jiao, can guess correctly. Hmm actually quite true, but even if I have high cash I will not really go look for a pretty wife. With cash, I can have an exciting sex life with no strings attached. I don't want a wife who is materialistic.
arrdwolf_77
25-04-2010, 11:27 PM
From this thread it is easy to define the winners from the losers. There is no right or wrong so there is no need to argue. I cannot expect a bottom dweller to see the view I have at the peak of the moutain. Vice versa. So it really depends which part of the mountain you are at.
Correct, argument is not needed. Judgment is not needed too. However although the bottom dweller can't see the view at the peak, the highflyer should be able to understand the bottom dweller.
walle
12-05-2010, 01:35 AM
let the sg girls be choosy for all they want to, not to say that we guys don't hv the right to choose too right? i consider myself that i earn more than the average singapore man, but i still chose a prc over singaporean girl when marriage.
hey man, fully agreed with you. I earn more than 10k a month but in the end...i married a PRC and living happily ever after........my family like her alot, i married her cos she willing to stay and take care of my mother which my ex-sg galfren do not want to stay with my mum...FYI i am the only son.:D
Johnston
12-05-2010, 10:37 AM
http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/image/watermarked/tofindawomanyouneedtimeandmoney.jpg
Softcore
12-05-2010, 06:39 PM
Correct, argument is not needed. Judgment is not needed too. However although the bottom dweller can't see the view at the peak, the highflyer should be able to understand the bottom dweller.
Why should the high flier give a damn about the bottom dweller?
Johnston
12-05-2010, 07:22 PM
Why should the high flier give a damn about the bottom dweller?
Ref
A) french revolution
B) toppling of China's monarchy.
C) Various civil riots, etc, most recen of which was indonesian race riots.
There is a way when the rich are too rich, and the poor are too poor. :p
tomvoyeur
12-05-2010, 10:31 PM
Why should the high flier give a damn about the bottom dweller?
U need to know where the ground is in order to keep flying high. ;)
84gunner
13-05-2010, 12:46 AM
I would say I'm high income earner.
I quit SG several years ago, after I got sick of things in SG. From gahmen policies & laws, to pple's snobbishness & arrogance, to industry / market / companies' attitudes & salary rates, to gals' mentalities.
I am thankful today, no regrets, no looking back. Before I quit, I am only avg income earner. I told myself, I blame all the above-mentioned reasons putting me in prejudiced position. Ok, quit SG, get outta SG, then the sky should be the limit. How much my capability, how much hardwork I'm willing to put in, I should be able to achieve more. If I'm still stuck in similar situation / position & lamenting like before I quit, then the problem lies with me, not SG.
Today, I live in a 2-bedroom service apartment paid by coy (8k USD monthly rental), drive a 4000 cc sedan, petrol, mobile phone charges, dry-cleaning laundry all paid by coy / reimbursable. At the same time, I also set-up my own company in another country, on top of my current job. And I live a well-balanced life: when it's time to work, work hard. Off work, I play sports with friends / colleagues on some days, go clubbing / socialising on some days, have some family / personal time on other days.
If I didn't quit SG, I don't think I'll be enjoying all of these today, I'll still be stuck in the vicious circle of rat-race. Despite these achievements, my attitude & expectations towards females remains the same. Yes, u may call me Male Chauvinist Pig, for all u like & for all I care.
These years, wherever I met SG females, I simply felt disgusted. Their stuck-up attitude, arrogance & materialistic mentalities goes everywhere with them. At work, sometimes I wear normal long sleeve shirt & pants, sometimes in full business suit (tuxedo). They may disregard me initially, again, for all I care. When they felt my "air of authority", or found out my post, their attitudes kinda changed immediately, bullshit like "we were once fellow countrymen" stuffs. After work / during non-work related leisure times, I can be a total Ah Beng, I still like to wear pasar malam t-shirt & jeans & slippers, sit like a trishaw rider & smoke & swear vulgar languages (I swear in office / at work too, but can't be too crude. When casual, my swearing is really crude). Whenever SG friends meet me wherever I am (Thailand or China), bringing SG female coy (gf / wife / or just friends or colleagues), initially, those females give me the knn look, me low-class, wear pasar malam t-shirt, jeans, slippers, sit like trishaw-rider, smoke, swear, no wonder can only come Thailand / China work & get girls. When my friends told them I'm expat with the above mentioned benefits, their attitudes can change 180 deg immediately!
U imagine, they immediately ask for my name card. When I say I din bring out cos me not meeting for biz, they'll ask for other forms of contact like email addr, MSN, etc. Some of them even took another holiday trip back after that meet-up, of course, w/o the guy friend that intro us. And they tried to get me to "show them around" places where tour groups usually wouldn't bring them to. Of course, I know what's in their minds, all are excuses, and I can't be bothered with them. There's even 1 gal, told me she oso like to quit SG, go Shanghai (that time I was in Shanghai) look for a job / new life. She asked me, whether she can stay with me during the transition period, ie, searching for job & renting an apartment. When she found a job & settled her own accomodation, then decide whether to continue co-habitat with me, or live her own independant life again!
All these are simply crap! If I'm not an expat with those benefits, and of course, the biggest draw, they believe my salary is damn solid (yes, it is), and if I'm still in SG, with the way I dress & swear, they may even report police sue me for sexual harassment !
Whenever I "counsel" my SG friends, I'll tell them, what's the female population in Asia? Minus away the female population in SG, from the age u are 16 till 60, u fark 1 gal every nite, u still can't finish farking that number of gals in Asia excl SG! So why worry or get upset over SG gals ? They are ask for so much, yet so little to give. Other regional gals are willing to cook, do household chores, bonk / sextify u, bear children, not demanding extravagant / lavish lifestyles, more gentle / feminine. SG gals, still wanna talk about rights & equality some more.
Yes, call me MCP if u like, and I admit it, I'm spoilt by regional gals.
unsung80
13-05-2010, 08:08 AM
http://www.funnyexamanswers.com/image/watermarked/tofindawomanyouneedtimeandmoney.jpg
hahaha what a formula!
84gunner
13-05-2010, 09:06 PM
Actually, is this a Singaporean woman's problem? I think some of the comments are a bit too harsh. Guys, if you earn 3X more than your current pay now, how will you feel? So if you are earning $3k now, how will you feel or change if you earn $9k now? Will you feel more confident in life? Will you feel sexier? Will you be looking at different levels of the same things, like condo instead of hdb, like lexus instead of toyota?
I think sex appeal is PARTLY defined by a man's earning capacity. A bro here mentioned that if an ugly guy earns $8k a month, ladies will even view his 3 inch dick as if it's a 7 inch dick. Well, if I'm that ugly guy and I earn $8k/month, my 3 inch dick will also feel like a 7 inch dick, regardless of the presence or absence of any ladies.
When a guy is poor, he may think of sex with fb, ons or fl if he is single. If a guy is rich, he may think of sex with fb, ons, fl or mistress if he is single. I've never met a poor guy who is thinking of having a mistress. So why do some rich men have mistresses? Because their earning power is high enough for them to feel sexy and confident about themselves perhaps?
If a poor guy feels victimised because people think he earns little and thus isn't appealing, instead of complaining, perhaps he can go do a business or study somemore to increase his pay. The only long term solution is to be a high income earner, I guess. My 2 cents worth... Not fair to totally blame the materialistic ladies if we guys do view our sex appeal as a function of our income too.
Before I quit SG, my salary is in the average range. Now, my salary is many more times, much more than 3 times my last salary in SG. I dont feel any sexier, I just feel more relax, dont have to worry about coping with expenses or old-age / retirement plans.
I dont care whether I live in a condo or HDB, as long as I feel comfortable. Even u stay HDB, u can renovate yr interior until damn posh (I have friends who did that, spending more than 100k SGD for reno & furniture during the mid 90s). If u stretch yr $$$ so tight, yes, maybe u manage to stretch that last dollar to buy a condo, but hardly any reno & buy furniture & household appliances of lousy quality, that u dun enjoy it, on the outside, u may be proud to own a condo, but unhappy within cos u dun even enjoy staying in yr own house / home!
I lived in villages in China before, and I enjoy the life living there. I also just went to 2 villages in China recently. From the outside, many houses dun look any big deal. But when u see the interior, u wonder how much they spend on interior decor & furniture. Every practical square meter of the floor is made of marble (eg, u dun use marble floor in the bathroom, or u are going to slip & fall to yr own death) ! And in the villages, it's like landed property, bungalow houses where they have more than 1 storey! The pple knows each family, each other in the villages, that they can leave their doors wide open at night when they sleep, dun have to worry about thieves. In SG, living in HDB, nowdays most pple just shut their doors, dun even bother to say Hello to neighbors, many dun even know their neighbors' surnames! 1 can be thankful that he doesn't have feuding neighbors where Gahmen & HDB cant resolve! Try tokking to yr neigbor, or even just walk past yr neighbors' unit and looking in their direction, kena accuse of being kaypo, intruding their privacy, blah blah blah.
I oso dun like to drive in cities, watever car it may be. I hate wasting time doing nothing stuck in traffic jams. In public transport, during traffic jams, I can read newspapers / magazines, watch mobile TVs, or simply take a nap for health's sake. Also, I dun have to worry about drink driving when I take public transport (taxis). The punishment for drink driving is less serious / heavy outside SG, but it's not the punishment that I'm bothered, it's for safety sake, my safety & safety of other pple on the roads. U are gonna feel guilty for rest of yr life if u get into an accident due to drink driving. Whoever's fault, u dun feel good at the end of the day. There's oso not pressure when u need to or the mood comes to drink more, just drink.
Whether I was earning average salary or my salary level now, I still feel my dick is same length & size. It's a matter of accepting yrself as what u are, facing the facts. If a person even doesn't like himself, how can he expect others to like / accept him? If a person feels inferior, having some money is only a temporary ego booster, that's all. Deep inside himself, he's still an unhappy person.
Whether I was earning average salary or my salary level, I still think of bonking chio bu, regardless whether they are WL or OL. Having quit SG for several years liao, I had so much sex I really need to be choosy on the quality of my partner now. My energy is damn precious now, dun wanna anyhow waste it. I bonked so much till there is blood in my ejaculate, my balls hurt too. Not the normal pain, it's so painful I may curl up like a prawn.
Yes, I would say the attitude of SG gals adds a punch to many guys' ego, but if a guy believes in himself, regardless of watever other pple say, he can still be confident regardless of his income. And yes, I would also say, tat many SGPeans complain more than they take action. Complain of low salary, under-paid, tell them to quit SG go another country, they worry this, scared that. Then I'd say, continue complaining. Nothing's gonna change if u dun take action to change it.
machinehead1234
14-05-2010, 12:39 AM
From an ex-Singaporean expat point of view, i find some of your points valid.
I guess most Asian women would be interested in your type of profile, regardless of their nationalities (singaporean or otherwise). In modern societies like Singapore, i guess this is inevitable as the pursuit of all things material is evident in the government's approach towards economic excellence and growth. (at all costs)..
Im not sure which countries you are using as a yardstick for comparisons but i generally observe that Singaporean women are perhaps more blatant and explicit in pursuing what they want. This is as compared to other more conservative societies where women are still expected to take second fiddle to men. However, this does not make them any less materialistic.
Perhaps you can shed more light into your life overseas? I am based in Tokyo by the way, where emphasis on physical appearance and dressing can sometimes outweigh a person's character and all other intangibles.
Before I quit SG, my salary is in the average range. Now, my salary is many more times, much more than 3 times my last salary in SG. I dont feel any sexier, I just feel more relax, dont have to worry about coping with expenses or old-age / retirement plans.
I dont care whether I live in a condo or HDB, as long as I feel comfortable. Even u stay HDB, u can renovate yr interior until damn posh (I have friends who did that, spending more than 100k SGD for reno & furniture during the mid 90s). If u stretch yr $$$ so tight, yes, maybe u manage to stretch that last dollar to buy a condo, but hardly any reno & buy furniture & household appliances of lousy quality, that u dun enjoy it, on the outside, u may be proud to own a condo, but unhappy within cos u dun even enjoy staying in yr own house / home!
I lived in villages in China before, and I enjoy the life living there. I also just went to 2 villages in China recently. From the outside, many houses dun look any big deal. But when u see the interior, u wonder how much they spend on interior decor & furniture. Every practical square meter of the floor is made of marble (eg, u dun use marble floor in the bathroom, or u are going to slip & fall to yr own death) ! And in the villages, it's like landed property, bungalow houses where they have more than 1 storey! The pple knows each family, each other in the villages, that they can leave their doors wide open at night when they sleep, dun have to worry about thieves. In SG, living in HDB, nowdays most pple just shut their doors, dun even bother to say Hello to neighbors, many dun even know their neighbors' surnames! 1 can be thankful that he doesn't have feuding neighbors where Gahmen & HDB cant resolve! Try tokking to yr neigbor, or even just walk past yr neighbors' unit and looking in their direction, kena accuse of being kaypo, intruding their privacy, blah blah blah.
I oso dun like to drive in cities, watever car it may be. I hate wasting time doing nothing stuck in traffic jams. In public transport, during traffic jams, I can read newspapers / magazines, watch mobile TVs, or simply take a nap for health's sake. Also, I dun have to worry about drink driving when I take public transport (taxis). The punishment for drink driving is less serious / heavy outside SG, but it's not the punishment that I'm bothered, it's for safety sake, my safety & safety of other pple on the roads. U are gonna feel guilty for rest of yr life if u get into an accident due to drink driving. Whoever's fault, u dun feel good at the end of the day. There's oso not pressure when u need to or the mood comes to drink more, just drink.
Whether I was earning average salary or my salary level now, I still feel my dick is same length & size. It's a matter of accepting yrself as what u are, facing the facts. If a person even doesn't like himself, how can he expect others to like / accept him? If a person feels inferior, having some money is only a temporary ego booster, that's all. Deep inside himself, he's still an unhappy person.
Whether I was earning average salary or my salary level, I still think of bonking chio bu, regardless whether they are WL or OL. Having quit SG for several years liao, I had so much sex I really need to be choosy on the quality of my partner now. My energy is damn precious now, dun wanna anyhow waste it. I bonked so much till there is blood in my ejaculate, my balls hurt too. Not the normal pain, it's so painful I may curl up like a prawn.
Yes, I would say the attitude of SG gals adds a punch to many guys' ego, but if a guy believes in himself, regardless of watever other pple say, he can still be confident regardless of his income. And yes, I would also say, tat many SGPeans complain more than they take action. Complain of low salary, under-paid, tell them to quit SG go another country, they worry this, scared that. Then I'd say, continue complaining. Nothing's gonna change if u dun take action to change it.
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