Who have a long term relationship with PRC KTV girl?

[sadfa]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

[naemlo]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

KTV gers are human being, they have emotional. These gers are here to earn big big money n go back home. Some gers know how to control their emotion, no love love but money money.... Some gers come to earn money but kena poison by the guys here. They can't control their emotion n fall for that guy.
Not all suck dry dry.... some even contribute to u....

[sadfa]

KTV gers are human being, they have emotional. These gers are here to earn big big money n go back home. Some gers know how to control their emotion, no love love but money money.... Some gers come to earn money but kena poison by the guys here. They can't control their emotion n fall for that guy.
Not all suck dry dry.... some even contribute to u....

how they contribute to u? can share?
agree w your pt generally, but seen too many cases of them sucking money and emotions dry and bye bye and never see them again.

[waypastprime]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

Did your friend potray himself as a rich man? If that's the case, then there's no wonder. Make oneself stand clear. ;)

[sadfa]

Did your friend potray himself as a rich man? If that's the case, then there's no wonder. Make oneself stand clear. ;)

dunno whether he did that. dont think he is rich.
but u never know what these girls r thinking.
plus many people who go ktv in shorts and t-shirts and are not well educated have stacks of yusoff ishak to give.

[dirty69warrior]

i guess it is all a matter of luck(or opening your eyes wide and be smart). i have got friends who are in long term relationship with prc....

one of them does not ask for anything from my friend. all she ask for is a steady relationship, but would need my friend just to take care of her school fee, accomodation and daily expenses(if necessary), if she can't make it on her own. she does not go for any high-end products. and, my friend is willing and comfortable to do just that. fine!

another friend of mine is a poor bloke yet the prc 'contributes' to him like nobody's business. she works for the money and would at times pass some to my friend to help me make ends meet. fantastic!

yet another friend of mine was in deep shit! he swipes and withdraws cash from his account and credit cards like nobody's business and would soon be declared bankrupt; si lor jit diao (one dead road). sigh!

so, i think there are good, ave, and fuck-up prc. just warn your friend and be very careful. hope he is mature and not blind enough to see thru' the motives of the prc. it is always a sad thing to see our fellow country man being conned by these prc. i tot we are supposed to be smarter than them! however, do not cheat them and let not they cheat us too!

[sadfa]

i guess it is all a matter of luck(or opening your eyes wide and be smart). i have got friends who are in long term relationship with prc....

one of them does not ask for anything from my friend. all she ask for is a steady relationship, but would need my friend just to take care of her school fee, accomodation and daily expenses(if necessary), if she can't make it on her own. she does not go for any high-end products. and, my friend is willing and comfortable to do just that. fine!

another friend of mine is a poor bloke yet the prc 'contributes' to him like nobody's business. she works for the money and would at times pass some to my friend to help me make ends meet. fantastic!

yet another friend of mine was in deep shit! he swipes and withdraws cash from his account and credit cards like nobody's business and would soon be declared bankrupt; si lor jit diao (one dead road). sigh!

so, i think there are good, ave, and fuck-up prc. just warn your friend and be very careful. hope he is mature and not blind enough to see thru' the motives of the prc. it is always a sad thing to see our fellow country man being conned by these prc. i tot we are supposed to be smarter than them! however, do not cheat them and let not they cheat us too!

thanks dirty69warrior. very good and sound advice.
i guess now its 2 early to tell what her intentions are. but being bruddas for so long, dont want to see him end up as number 3.
anyway i may be a bit bias cos i never encounter number 2 b4.

[naemlo]

how they contribute to u? can share?
agree w your pt generally, but seen too many cases of them sucking money and emotions dry and bye bye and never see them again.


Contribute as in finance.... but advice your bro not to fall too deep. If he is mature enough he should be able to tell the ger's intention. Dun let the small head controls the big head.....

[forex]

dunno whether he did that. dont think he is rich.
but u never know what these girls r thinking.
plus many people who go ktv in shorts and t-shirts and are not well educated have stacks of yusoff ishak to give.

yes i go in shorts and t shirts sometimes and i do have a stack of purple colour ones to give :D

but seriously, my not so kind advice is to let your friend fall because he will not listen anyway. i can share that those 1,2 fellow i know so far has been ok but in the longer run, will have to see.

but of course, there are some people lucky or should i say, they are capable with these girls ie foc. these may or may not go into long term relations.

well empires and heros has fell because of woman. what more we are but ordinary beings.

[sadfa]

yes i go in shorts and t shirts sometimes and i do have a stack of purple colour ones to give :D

but seriously, my not so kind advice is to let your friend fall because he will not listen anyway.

but of course, there are some people lucky or should i say, they are capable with these girls ie foc. these may or may not go into long term relations.

well empires and heros has fell because of woman. what more we are but ordinary beings.

i also thought of letting him fall but know him and his family so long already. sure will blame me. besides if he is in debt, he will sure borrow from me. so better minimise my losses now.

[forex]

i also thought of letting him fall but know him and his family so long already. sure will blame me. besides if he is in debt, he will sure borrow from me. so better minimise my losses now.

you are his bro what :D

[yellowdancer]

I got one lao jiao who cheong KTV told me about some men who hook up with KTV girl and then later did not have to work as the KTV girl supported him. All he has to do is drive the KTV girl to work and home everyday.

Think become a sort of Xiao Bai Lian....... but then they are also quite smart. Imagine you can make the girl work at this sort of places and willingly contribute money to you each time.

Think you really have to be very tactical and smart in order to reach this level.

[sadfa]

you are his bro what :D

not by blood lah. if really by blood, kenna fucked and tell the wife and parents already and let him be disowned.

[sadfa]

I got one lao jiao who cheong KTV told me about some men who hook up with KTV girl and then later did not have to work as the KTV girl supported him. All he has to do is drive the KTV girl to work and home everyday.

Think become a sort of Xiao Bai Lian....... but then they are also quite smart. Imagine you can make the girl work at this sort of places and willingly contribute money to you each time.

Think you really have to be very tactical and smart in order to reach this level.

not surprise lah. like that might as well be geylang pimp and can earn even more.

no point doing such thing no matter how hard up u r? many of these prc girls spend alot of money to come here and need alot of money when go back for personal reasons. y do such chek ak thing?

[dirty69warrior]

bro sadfa, i think it is very difficult for you to do anything. your bro will feel that he knows the gal better than you. he will tell you that he is not splashing on her, just to save his face(i got many friends telling this crap). just pray that he is sensible enuf and does not come to you when he needs money(for the prc)..... haha!

in any case, these relationships are all short term. my friends' mentality are such that "i will provide for you(within my means) during your stinct in sgp, or i am using your money since you are willing to help with my problems".

whatever, just chiong with a clear conscience and within your means........ "hurt nobody, and not to be a fool to be hurt by others!"

[iluvktv]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

I hv been cheonging prc ktvs for some time liao and had my fair share of gfs, long and short term ones. Some will bleed you, some just want to have someone to be with when they are here and there are others who will even give u money. Tell your friend to be open with the gal, if he is not rich say he is not rich, dun pretend. Most of them will try to get u to pay or buy things for them. They may give you FOC or dun take tips from you when they sit with you in the ktv or go out with you, but they get u to pay for their school fees, rental, daily expenses, buy cosmetics, clothes, branded goods, etc. All these expenses could be more than just pay them tips. If ur fren has spare money to splurge on them fine, but if he has to draw on credit cards or ODs, ask him to forget it, he will run dry in the end and get himself into trouble.

Not all PRC ktv gals are bloodsuckers, now I only have two long term gfs and both have passed me a few Ks to help me tide over bad times before and most of the time without me asking for it. Of cos, I always return to them with more when I had the money. End of the day, it's a matter of luck how u treat them, but for the bloodsuckers, u can tell after being with them for a while, when the demands start flowing in.

[sadfa]

I hv been cheonging prc ktvs for some time liao and had my fair share of gfs, long and short term ones. Some will bleed you, some just want to have someone to be with when they are here and there are others who will even give u money. Tell your friend to be open with the gal, if he is not rich say he is not rich, dun pretend. Most of them will try to get u to pay or buy things for them. They may give you FOC or dun take tips from you when they sit with you in the ktv or go out with you, but they get u to pay for their school fees, rental, daily expenses, buy cosmetics, clothes, branded goods, etc. All these expenses could be more than just pay them tips. If ur fren has spare money to splurge on them fine, but if he has to draw on credit cards or ODs, ask him to forget it, he will run dry in the end and get himself into trouble.

Not all PRC ktv gals are bloodsuckers, now I only have two long term gfs and both have passed me a few Ks to help me tide over bad times before and most of the time without me asking for it. Of cos, I always return to them with more when I had the money. End of the day, it's a matter of luck how u treat them, but for the bloodsuckers, u can tell after being with them for a while, when the demands start flowing in.

understand. hope he never shiok tiu and kenna gong tau and keep on giving and cant get out.

[mr_missile]

I have a kaki who recently got hooked up with a one such gal.
It definitely wasn't a 'Love at 1st sight' kinda thing cos : 1) He is not yantao. 2) He was not flashy ie. no rolex watch etc 3) He wasn't looking for a gf especially he's already married.
But as we became sort of regulars to that ktv, they also got to know each other better. So, after the ktv sessions, we would adjourne for supper and she would tag along. He would always send her home after that.
With time, it became obvious to us that she has 'become' his other woman. So much so that if he's there at the ktv, she would sit solely with him and not butterfly.
When we questioned him, he said they started off really as friends.
As far as we know, he has not really splurged on her materialistically. But he tips very well. So I guess she's just another lonely heart who just needs company. When she's with him, she doesn't need to put up a front to serve him. She can relax and treat him and us as well now as friends. Of cos, he got the extras....
Cheers!

[sadfa]

I have a kaki who recently got hooked up with a one such gal.
It definitely wasn't a 'Love at 1st sight' kinda thing cos : 1) He is not yantao. 2) He was not flashy ie. no rolex watch etc 3) He wasn't looking for a gf especially he's already married.
But as we became sort of regulars to that ktv, they also got to know each other better. So, after the ktv sessions, we would adjourne for supper and she would tag along. He would always send her home after that.
With time, it became obvious to us that she has 'become' his other woman. So much so that if he's there at the ktv, she would sit solely with him and not butterfly.
When we questioned him, he said they started off really as friends.
As far as we know, he has not really splurged on her materialistically. But he tips very well. So I guess she's just another lonely heart who just needs company. When she's with him, she doesn't need to put up a front to serve him. She can relax and treat him and us as well now as friends. Of cos, he got the extras....
Cheers!

good 4 him. lets hope he have a happy ending out of this.
how well he tip. $100?

[mr_missile]

good 4 him. lets hope he have a happy ending out of this.
how well he tip. $100?

Bro, initially he tip $50. But as she 'became' his and never butterfly, he usually tipped her at least $200 a nite. I think it's reasonable as we would normally spend about 4 to 5 hrs there. If you calculate by bookings per hour, it's considered cheap liao.
Cheers!

[sadfa]

Bro, initially he tip $50. But as she 'became' his and never butterfly, he usually tipped her at least $200 a nite. I think it's reasonable as we would normally spend about 4 to 5 hrs there. If you calculate by bookings per hour, it's considered cheap liao.
Cheers!

thats very expensive and considered booking already.
somemore he never bonk her on the nite itself right? btw which ktv u go. if its mg and the like, its super very expensive. if its las vegas and the like, its still expensive.

[fun4evergood]

Bro, initially he tip $50. But as she 'became' his and never butterfly, he usually tipped her at least $200 a nite. I think it's reasonable as we would normally spend about 4 to 5 hrs there. If you calculate by bookings per hour, it's considered cheap liao.
Cheers!

Wah!! $200 per nite...... ur friend mus be quite rich....imagine if he went there 2 times a week....1 month = 8 times = 8x 200 = $1600 .... !!!! :eek:

[mr_missile]

Wah!! $200 per nite...... ur friend mus be quite rich....imagine if he went there 2 times a week....1 month = 8 times = 8x 200 = $1600 .... !!!! :eek:

bro fun4evergood, we dun go so regularly like twice a week. More like twice a month. My fren runs his own business. So $200 tips not a problem. Sometimes open bottle and put under his company's entertainment fees. Heh heh.
To the other bros, as far as i know, bookings normally cost $50 to $80 an hour. So he 'bao' her whole nite and pay $200 is lower than 'market' rate already. Dun wanna take advantage of her mah. She also need to 'tan chia'.
Cheers!

[iluvktv]

thats very expensive and considered booking already.
somemore he never bonk her on the nite itself right? btw which ktv u go. if its mg and the like, its super very expensive. if its las vegas and the like, its still expensive.


In places like Las Vegas and the like, if the gal sits with u the whole nite and not butterfly, $200 is standard minimum. If u pay thru' the KTV is probably like $35 per hour and u sign 8 hours ($280) and the gal only takes about $150, the rest sapu by the KTV.

For the gal, if she knows that the customer is going to give $200 for sitting the whole nite, she won't butterfly, butterfly if business bad and only one or two tables, at most $100.

[fun4evergood]

bro fun4evergood, we dun go so regularly like twice a week. More like twice a month. My fren runs his own business. So $200 tips not a problem. Sometimes open bottle and put under his company's entertainment fees. Heh heh.
To the other bros, as far as i know, bookings normally cost $50 to $80 an hour. So he 'bao' her whole nite and pay $200 is lower than 'market' rate already. Dun wanna take advantage of her mah. She also need to 'tan chia'.
Cheers!

To me, $200 is on the high side.....that explains why I never went to high-class ktv before. Onli frequent low-class one............... :D

[sadfa]

In places like Las Vegas and the like, if the gal sits with u the whole nite and not butterfly, $200 is standard minimum. If u pay thru' the KTV is probably like $35 per hour and u sign 8 hours ($280) and the gal only takes about $150, the rest sapu by the KTV.

For the gal, if she knows that the customer is going to give $200 for sitting the whole nite, she won't butterfly, butterfly if business bad and only one or two tables, at most $100.

out of topic. if the girl have no table and she only sit with you, you only pay her $50 (dunno about las vegas rate but can check it out). of course, in between she can stand here and there, chit chat with friend to find other table. you never book her, why pay for booking rate.

of course, u book her whole nite, your $50 can go wipe backside and ktv would get their cut, but she cannot disappear when booking with u, other than pang sai and pang jio. booking is fixed for 8 hr meh? i thought by the hour.

if i were the chabo, i would still butterfly even if the guy give $200. some of them sit 3 or 4 tables and if some1 give $200 even if she butterfly, why not?

[evol 3]

These type of relationship is typified in this song "Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl..they were young and they were in love who could ask for more at the Copa, Copacabana.." Unless you are Rico.

[thick]

Not all PRC ktv gals are bloodsuckers, now I only have two long term gfs and both have passed me a few Ks to help me tide over bad times before and most of the time without me asking for it. Of cos, I always return to them with more when I had the money. End of the day, it's a matter of luck how u treat them, but for the bloodsuckers, u can tell after being with them for a while, when the demands start flowing in.

my two close frens married KTV PRC ladies and are both still together after 10 years. got 2 kids some more ..... no divorce talks yet or whatsoever .... but frens not so close to them dunno the PRC background ... only few of us knew but we don;t sabo them as it is their happiness ....

but there is still one secret even my 2 frens dunno is that their "yet to be wives" during that time had sex with me during the cheonging days .... but those were the days and now must know how to behave when I am with them for outings also .... they are with families, no reason for me to disturb and break them up .... :o

[iluvktv]

out of topic. if the girl have no table and she only sit with you, you only pay her $50 (dunno about las vegas rate but can check it out). of course, in between she can stand here and there, chit chat with friend to find other table. you never book her, why pay for booking rate.

of course, u book her whole nite, your $50 can go wipe backside and ktv would get their cut, but she cannot disappear when booking with u, other than pang sai and pang jio. booking is fixed for 8 hr meh? i thought by the hour.

if i were the chabo, i would still butterfly even if the guy give $200. some of them sit 3 or 4 tables and if some1 give $200 even if she butterfly, why not?

I agree, if the gal chooses to sit w u the whole nite without u telling them not to butterfly, u r entitled to give just 50 bucks. but if u book them, then at least $200 seems to be the unspoken market rate at places like Las Vegas...But i know of gals getting only $100 for booking overnite but what can they do!

On busy nites like Thurs and Friday, most chabo prefer to butterfly becos can probably sit more tables and earn more than $200 but the majority of them can only sit not more than four tables and are quite happy to be booked. Less tiring for them too.

If she sits with u from 10 pm to 3 am, then the mummy will sign min. 8 hours, how many hours depends on how long u stay?

[iluvktv]

my two close frens married KTV PRC ladies and are both still together after 10 years. got 2 kids some more ..... no divorce talks yet or whatsoever .... but frens not so close to them dunno the PRC background ... only few of us knew but we don;t sabo them as it is their happiness ....

but there is still one secret even my 2 frens dunno is that their "yet to be wives" during that time had sex with me during the cheonging days .... but those were the days and now must know how to behave when I am with them for outings also .... they are with families, no reason for me to disturb and break them up .... :o

I guess for anyone who wants to marry a PRC KTV gal must be prepared to overlook the gal's past. If u cannot get past this, then better dun get involved with a PRC KTV gal.

[sadfa]

I agree, if the gal chooses to sit w u the whole nite without u telling them not to butterfly, u r entitled to give just 50 bucks. but if u book them, then at least $200 seems to be the unspoken market rate at places like Las Vegas...But i know of gals getting only $100 for booking overnite but what can they do!

On busy nites like Thurs and Friday, most chabo prefer to butterfly becos can probably sit more tables and earn more than $200 but the majority of them can only sit not more than four tables and are quite happy to be booked. Less tiring for them too.

If she sits with u from 10 pm to 3 am, then the mummy will sign min. 8 hours, how many hours depends on how long u stay?

i have heard of girls who sit more than 4 tables in 1 night. if i were them, i rather butterfly, although tiring, 4 tables at least $200 min, compared to $200 for 1 booking only

can book privately meh? i thought all booking must be thru the co, otherwise what will the girl say to the mummy when the mummy ask her to go to another table? can she say no?

[iluvktv]

i have heard of girls who sit more than 4 tables in 1 night. if i were them, i rather butterfly, although tiring, 4 tables at least $200 min, compared to $200 for 1 booking only

can book privately meh? i thought all booking must be thru the co, otherwise what will the girl say to the mummy when the mummy ask her to go to another table? can she say no?

Sure, some of the ang pais can sit up to 7 or 8 tables a nite, but the more tables u sit the chances of u getting $30 tips is higher because u spend less time in the room. Not everyone gives $50 and not forgetting those who leaves without giving tips. On the average, most gals would sit up to 5 or 6 tables max.

of cos can book privately, just tell the gal she dun need to butterfly and u will pay her directly. She can then go to the counter and indicate that she has been booked and no mummy will call her number. U just tell your mummy that u will pay her directly. No rule to say cannot book directly except for places like Lido where it is a booking system. Whether she has to give your mummy a cut depends on the mummy. My mummy never ask my gals for a cut.

[mr_missile]

of cos can book privately, just tell the gal she dun need to butterfly and u will pay her directly. She can then go to the counter and indicate that she has been booked and no mummy will call her number. U just tell your mummy that u will pay her directly. No rule to say cannot book directly except for places like Lido where it is a booking system. Whether she has to give your mummy a cut depends on the mummy. My mummy never ask my gals for a cut.

Agree totally. So we compensate the mummy a bit. Anyway, when we open bottles, the liquor commission goes to the mummy already. Tips are something like bonus for her.
Cheers!

[mr_missile]

To me, $200 is on the high side.....that explains why I never went to high-class ktv before. Onli frequent low-class one............... :D
bro, dun say until like that leh....high-class or low-class, as long as we, the paying customers get to enjoy ourselves, that's more important right?
Cheers!

[iluvktv]

bro, dun say until like that leh....high-class or low-class, as long as we, the paying customers get to enjoy ourselves, that's more important right?
Cheers!

yep, if go in a group of at least five and share the bottle, each pays about $50 to $70, as for the gals, can always dun book them. tips tho normally $50 but u can always give $30 if the gal butterfly too much. I seldom book the gal unless she is really special, for $200, I can call four gals and even if they butterfly, there will always be someeone with me. so it all depends on how u want to play it.

[iluvktv]

Agree totally. So we compensate the mummy a bit. Anyway, when we open bottles, the liquor commission goes to the mummy already. Tips are something like bonus for her.
Cheers!

u r right. the mummy earns abt average $100 per bottle opened. for our mummy, we seldom tip her and she still provides gd svc. nowadays, biz in ktv not too good, got customer go and open bottle very good already.

[naemlo]

Wah!! $200 per nite...... ur friend mus be quite rich....imagine if he went there 2 times a week....1 month = 8 times = 8x 200 = $1600 .... !!!! :eek:


Errrrr I thought we used to spend more than that???

[naemlo]

bro fun4evergood, we dun go so regularly like twice a week. More like twice a month. My fren runs his own business. So $200 tips not a problem. Sometimes open bottle and put under his company's entertainment fees. Heh heh.
To the other bros, as far as i know, bookings normally cost $50 to $80 an hour. So he 'bao' her whole nite and pay $200 is lower than 'market' rate already. Dun wanna take advantage of her mah. She also need to 'tan chia'.
Cheers!

Wow talk abt company's entertainment, I long time no entertainment.... is there any KTVs that can give 'good' receipt??? PM me if there is......

[forex]

yep, if go in a group of at least five and share the bottle, each pays about $50 to $70, as for the gals, can always dun book them. tips tho normally $50 but u can always give $30 if the gal butterfly too much. I seldom book the gal unless she is really special, for $200, I can call four gals and even if they butterfly, there will always be someeone with me. so it all depends on how u want to play it.

in the realm of butterfly system, if want the girl to spend a relatively longer time with you..choose the ugliest cum oldest one :D

note, alcohol and high myopia helps.

after effects, you will experience a stronger urge with better looking girls.

[forex]

Wow talk abt company's entertainment, I long time no entertainment.... is there any KTVs that can give 'good' receipt??? PM me if there is......

maybe only china side can do that ;)

[naemlo]

in the realm of butterfly system, if want the girl to spend a relatively longer time with you..choose the ugliest cum oldest one :D

note, alcohol and high myopia helps.

after effects, you will experience a stronger urge with better looking girls.

Agree!!! I did that once cos I sick of the 'butterfly'. Ask WPP he was with me, the ger sat with me whole nite!!! I asked her to go but she said no business..... Anyway, that nite I just wanted to sing n talk so she was there sing n talk......

[fun4evergood]

Errrrr I thought we used to spend more than that???

Really??? didnt notice....which ktv? :eek: froggy?

[mr_missile]

Really??? didnt notice....which ktv? :eek: froggy?
Hahaha.....bro, lobang pechar liao?
Also, care to pm me this froggy ktv's location?
Cheers!

[manfon]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

I hear some happy stories from my WCWG group of companies but not without terms and conditions (aka motives of all sorts)
When you play, play by the rule. If you are not a player, don't play. You will get burn.

[manfon]

To me, $200 is on the high side.....that explains why I never went to high-class ktv before. Onli frequent low-class one............... :D

I love LC one..! :D

[Smooth]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

My gf oso ktv girl,last time i courted her & nw we r still 2gether. Nw she wk normal job, and we oso bear all the hard time 2gether.

[MonsterX]

My gf oso ktv girl,last time i courted her & nw we r still 2gether. Nw she wk normal job, and we oso bear all the hard time 2gether.

You r lucky bro...! My ex oso ktv gal...we share some hard times 2gether..more den a year...but cant go any further...even when the happy moment r on the way....mine i only can say is dat...she cant make up her mind and oso not determined to gif up the kind of life she having...when times to come..haf to break it up,so as a personel advise...,if a ktv gal can changed her job n lead a normal lifestyle wif u...do cherish her....coz she had put in lot of effort wif u!! Bless u ,bro... :)

[hotbod8]

If you have the charm, anything is possible. You do not need to splurge money, give allowance or be gorgeous looking.

I am maybe just above average looking but tall and strong looking. Over the years I've had many mid to long term relationships with China girls. Some are here on student passes and you get to be with them from one to three years.

Met most of them from Tiananmen and one two other ktv joints. Have bonked all of them (at least 50) without forking any $$. If they like you, they will treat you like a true bf.

Some come and some go.

At this point in time, I have `steady' gfs who are studying at SIC, APMI, AITA and one at a school in Peninsula. Plus my sing ones, it is quite fun juggling the roster and noting their period schedules.

Hee hee..

You can if you want to. There is a secret to conquering these china dolls..

[fun4evergood]

Met most of them from Tiananmen and one two other ktv joints. Have bonked all of them (at least 50) without forking any $$. If they like you, they will treat you like a true bf.

..


SALUTE !!!! bonked at least 50 !!! foc !!!

WCWG company !!! wake up !!! :eek:

[manfon]

SALUTE !!!! bonked at least 50 !!! foc !!!

WCWG company !!! wake up !!! :eek:

definitely a wakeup call..
Whole company adds up also dunno got 50 or not.

We should do a stock take... Where the fxxk is our CIA?

SALUTE!!!

[fun4evergood]

definitely a wakeup call..
Whole company adds up also dunno got 50 or not.

We should do a stock take... Where the fxxk is our CIA?

SALUTE!!!

Lets recuit hotbot8 to be out chief advisor !! :eek:

[Randi_Candi]

I hv been cheonging prc ktvs for some time liao and had my fair share of gfs, long and short term ones. Some will bleed you, some just want to have someone to be with when they are here and there are others who will even give u money. Tell your friend to be open with the gal, if he is not rich say he is not rich, dun pretend. Most of them will try to get u to pay or buy things for them. They may give you FOC or dun take tips from you when they sit with you in the ktv or go out with you, but they get u to pay for their school fees, rental, daily expenses, buy cosmetics, clothes, branded goods, etc. All these expenses could be more than just pay them tips. If ur fren has spare money to splurge on them fine, but if he has to draw on credit cards or ODs, ask him to forget it, he will run dry in the end and get himself into trouble.

Not all PRC ktv gals are bloodsuckers, now I only have two long term gfs and both have passed me a few Ks to help me tide over bad times before and most of the time without me asking for it. Of cos, I always return to them with more when I had the money. End of the day, it's a matter of luck how u treat them, but for the bloodsuckers, u can tell after being with them for a while, when the demands start flowing in.

Bet u can smell a bloodsucker miles away....... :D

[sadfa]

Update!

Managed to speak to my brudda over the holiday. Just as i suspected, he gave her money ($1,000) due to some 'emergency'. This is on top of the money he spend on her like her meals, clothes, cosmetics and being her personal chauffeur. Somemore the bitch kao pei not enough!

he says he has to do this, to proof his love to her and its a one-off
'emergency' anyway. but they only going steady for about 1 month and I know he is tight cos he never go ktv or makan with us now and never bet on soccer (he say he not free etc). but the funny thing is he blames the whole world for having no money, but dont blame her.

Maybe i am just biased against these girls, but i think the blood-sucking has begun.

so whats the verdict here guys? true love or just blood-sucking?

[fun4evergood]

Update!

Managed to speak to my brudda over the holiday. Just as i suspected, he gave her money ($1,000) due to some 'emergency'. This is on top of the money he spend on her like her meals, clothes, cosmetics and being her personal chauffeur. Somemore the bitch kao pei not enough!

he says he has to do this, to proof his love to her and its a one-off
'emergency' anyway. but they only going steady for about 1 month and I know he is tight cos he never go ktv or makan with us now and never bet on soccer (he say he not free etc). but the funny thing is he blames the whole world for having no money, but dont blame her.

i think the blood-sucking has begun.

so whats the verdict here guys? true love or just blood-sucking?

Its time to test out whether it is true love....... ask him to stop providing her money......if she still with him for another month without asking money....then bingo.....

[sadfa]

Its time to test out whether it is true love....... ask him to stop providing her money......if she still with him for another month without asking money....then bingo.....

dunno whether he can tahan or not? haha.

[fun4evergood]

dunno whether he can tahan or not? haha.

I always qoute to my gals..... talk money hurt relations...... :D

[sadfa]

I always qoute to my gals..... talk money hurt relations...... :D

thanks for your input, fun4evergood.
anyway i am tired of this thing. he so old already. he should know what to do and bear the consequenes if he dont.

not going to bother to talk to him about this unless he ask me. scarly people here say i am the same brudda. haha!

[naemlo]

thanks for your input, fun4evergood.
anyway i am tired of this thing. he so old already. he should know what to do and bear the consequenes if he dont.

not going to bother to talk to him about this unless he ask me. scarly people here say i am the same brudda. haha!

1K??? Hiazzzzz, ask him for a loan c wat he replys u......

[fun4evergood]

thanks for your input, fun4evergood.
anyway i am tired of this thing. he so old already. he should know what to do and bear the consequenes if he dont.

not going to bother to talk to him about this unless he ask me. scarly people here say i am the same brudda. haha!

Care to tell me which age group he belongs to? Married?

[fun4evergood]

1K??? Hiazzzzz, ask him for a loan c wat he replys u......

Can u lend me 1k?? :eek:

[naemlo]

Can u lend me 1k?? :eek:


1K?? Too little, wat r bros for, I loan u 2K..... enuff?? Come to my office, I'll get my personal assistance to issue u a cash cheque..

[imom]

Horror stories I have none - most of my cheong bros are pretty smart people...

Happy story, I have one. One of my close buds hooked up with this PRC chick from one of our cheong sessions. Her visa expired and she went back, but they kept in touch and he finally acted as her guarantor and brought her over... and they got married! They have a 3 y/o kid daughter now... Of course, my friend stopped cheonging ktv, but er, continued with HCs... 'Jiang shan yi gai, ben xing nan yi'... Ktvs require too much time and would arouse suspicion! :D



My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

[fun4evergood]

Horror stories I have none - most of my cheong bros are pretty smart people...

Happy story, I have one. One of my close buds hooked up with this PRC chick from one of our cheong sessions. Her visa expired and she went back, but they kept in touch and he finally acted as her guarantor and brought her over... and they got married! They have a 3 y/o kid daughter now... Of course, my friend stopped cheonging ktv, but er, continued with HCs... 'Jiang shan yi gai, ben xing nan yi'... Ktvs require too much time and would arouse suspicion! :D

Ha ha ...happy ending...

[naemlo]

Horror stories I have none - most of my cheong bros are pretty smart people...

Happy story, I have one. One of my close buds hooked up with this PRC chick from one of our cheong sessions. Her visa expired and she went back, but they kept in touch and he finally acted as her guarantor and brought her over... and they got married! They have a 3 y/o kid daughter now... Of course, my friend stopped cheonging ktv, but er, continued with HCs... 'Jiang shan yi gai, ben xing nan yi'... Ktvs require too much time and would arouse suspicion! :D

It's good that your bro found a ger that he likes n happily marry with a kid. Congrad to him n his decision.....

[imom]

Ha ha ...happy ending...

Well, the only slightly awkward thing (for me that is) is that the girl was originally 'mine'... She sat with me the first couple of times when we used to cheong that ktv. Luckily the furthest I went with her was getting a goodnite kiss... otherwise, it'd be kinda weird... :D

[sadfa]

Care to tell me which age group he belongs to? Married?

quite young. early 30s.
got long running gf. but i know they got big problems. but never break cos run for so long and difficult to break. always quarrel and also quarrel b4 me so many time already.

[sadfa]

If you have the charm, anything is possible. You do not need to splurge money, give allowance or be gorgeous looking.

I am maybe just above average looking but tall and strong looking. Over the years I've had many mid to long term relationships with China girls. Some are here on student passes and you get to be with them from one to three years.

Met most of them from Tiananmen and one two other ktv joints. Have bonked all of them (at least 50) without forking any $$. If they like you, they will treat you like a true bf.

Some come and some go.

At this point in time, I have `steady' gfs who are studying at SIC, APMI, AITA and one at a school in Peninsula. Plus my sing ones, it is quite fun juggling the roster and noting their period schedules.

Hee hee..

You can if you want to. There is a secret to conquering these china dolls..

good 4 u if u got em.
although without having any details on how much time and effort and small money u spend like makan, etc on each of them. very difficult to comment.

[dirty69warrior]

true, i agree with bro hotbod88 that if the gals like you, they will treat you like bf and you get to fuck them for free. BUT..... dun forget the 'small money' that you spend on time as bf; time and effort to fetch them around, makan here and there, buy groceries, etc. they add up to quite a bit of money! here, i agree with bro sadfa! therefore, nothing is free to me, in this world. if bro hotbod88 can also 'siam' all these expenses, then he must be damn fantastic with these gals. sometimes, i think that it would be better to pay, fuck, and forget it lah!

[sadfa]

true, i agree with bro hotbod88 that if the gals like you, they will treat you like bf and you get to fuck them for free. BUT..... dun forget the 'small money' that you spend on time as bf; time and effort to fetch them around, makan here and there, buy groceries, etc. they add up to quite a bit of money! here, i agree with bro sadfa! therefore, nothing is free to me, in this world. if bro hotbod88 can also 'siam' all these expenses, then he must be damn fantastic with these gals. sometimes, i think that it would be better to pay, fuck, and forget it lah!

ya boy. dont forget if u go to ktv again, must call her and pay her tips and cannot stinge on tips even if she take u 4 granted and butterfly 99%. if u do that or even worse, dont tell her u there but she or her gf find out, ur foc fuck is history! so moral of the story, even if ur gf, still pay and fuck. rtf if she really good.

but if u can foc fuck her and dont need to even pay for hotel and condoms, u r the king.

[iluvktv]

ya boy. dont forget if u go to ktv again, must call her and pay her tips and cannot stinge on tips even if she take u 4 granted and butterfly 99%. if u do that or even worse, dont tell her u there but she or her gf find out, ur foc fuck is history! so moral of the story, even if ur gf, still pay and fuck. rtf if she really good.

but if u can foc fuck her and dont need to even pay for hotel and condoms, u r the king.

if she is truly your gf, there would be no need to tip her in the ktv when she sits with you. At least not for my two gfs. When I go, they will accompany me. But I ask let them go butterfly because they also need to earn a living. For both of them, they are prepared to leave the ktv halfway during work even if they are already sitting table if I want to meet with them.

[iluvktv]

Update!

Managed to speak to my brudda over the holiday. Just as i suspected, he gave her money ($1,000) due to some 'emergency'. This is on top of the money he spend on her like her meals, clothes, cosmetics and being her personal chauffeur. Somemore the bitch kao pei not enough!

he says he has to do this, to proof his love to her and its a one-off
'emergency' anyway. but they only going steady for about 1 month and I know he is tight cos he never go ktv or makan with us now and never bet on soccer (he say he not free etc). but the funny thing is he blames the whole world for having no money, but dont blame her.

Maybe i am just biased against these girls, but i think the blood-sucking has begun.

so whats the verdict here guys? true love or just blood-sucking?

Verdict: definitely a bloodsucker. Did your friend ask what the 'emergency' was? Great Singapore Sale!!!!

[mr_missile]

if she is truly your gf, there would be no need to tip her in the ktv when she sits with you. At least not for my two gfs. When I go, they will accompany me. But I ask let them go butterfly because they also need to earn a living. For both of them, they are prepared to leave the ktv halfway during work even if they are already sitting table if I want to meet with them.
Agree totally bro. I used to have a regular ktv gal who also didn't want my tips at the end of our sessions. But of cos, got to let her butterfly lor. However, she will always come back to me whenever she's in between 'calls'. So if one nite she sits 4 tables (exclude mine), she'll spend the most 10 mins in each room. The remaining time will be with me. Hehehe.
Btw, she's non-prc but a local chick. I wouldn't consider her a gf cos besides being her regular customer, we dun really meet up outside her 'office' hours.

[sadfa]

Verdict: definitely a bloodsucker. Did your friend ask what the 'emergency' was? Great Singapore Sale!!!!

dunno never ask. lost all appetite when i heard he really gave the money.

[sadfa]

if she is truly your gf, there would be no need to tip her in the ktv when she sits with you. At least not for my two gfs. When I go, they will accompany me. But I ask let them go butterfly because they also need to earn a living. For both of them, they are prepared to leave the ktv halfway during work even if they are already sitting table if I want to meet with them.

i cant speak 4 myself, cos i dont have gf there, but from observation, i notice my friends do that. maybe because they dont take care of them outside ktv. anyway, no matter what, u still pay 1 way or the other.

u seem 2 have a good deal work out with them.

[shoot]

dunno never ask. lost all appetite when i heard he really gave the money.

Bro sadfa,

The sign is there, ask yr friend to wake up! I've a KTV prc friend now. Just to share my experience a bit.

I know her 3 yrs ago and she treat me as a friend now. I don't drive, not rich and so, so looking only. I told her all this and she knows. But I make it a point that whenever I do business with her, I'll pay her a token fee without her asking for it. I told her I'm not treating u as a prostitute but just as an appreciation or for u to buy something. In this case, u don't really owe her anything n she will not use this to exchange any favour so on and so for. She also quite good to me, until now didn't ask anything big from me and never go high class place to makan only if I decided to. I even met her in Hong Kong for a few days this year Jan, suppose to proceed to her home in Shengzheng but quarrel with her n I came back early. For the 3 yrs, I only bought her 1 branded handbag. She just message me today n I know she is in S'pore liao. Going to be busy liao!

Just to advice yr friend, be alert, clear minded and in control and not being controlled. Don't get soft easily and give in. Just my 2 cents worth. :)

[sadfa]

Bro sadfa,

The sign is there, ask yr friend to wake up! I've a KTV prc friend now. Just to share my experience a bit.

I know her 3 yrs ago and she treat me as a friend now. I don't drive, not rich and so, so looking only. I told her all this and she knows. But I make it a point that whenever I do business with her, I'll pay her a token fee without her asking for it. I told her I'm not treating u as a prostitute but just as an appreciation or for u to buy something. In this case, u don't really owe her anything n she will not use this to exchange any favour so on and so for. She also quite good to me, until now didn't ask anything big from me and never go high class place to makan only if I decided to. I even met her in Hong Kong for a few days this year Jan, suppose to proceed to her home in Shengzheng but quarrel with her n I came back early. For the 3 yrs, I only bought her 1 branded handbag. She just message me today n I know she is in S'pore liao. Going to be busy liao!

Just to advice yr friend, be alert, clear minded and in control and not being controlled. Don't get soft easily and give in. Just my 2 cents worth. :)

thanks for your reply, shoot. u also have a good deal work out.
frankly, not too pleased with my brudda 4 being such a fool and not going to talk to him on this issue unless he tells me first.

[Randi_Candi]

thanks for your input, fun4evergood.
anyway i am tired of this thing. he so old already. he should know what to do and bear the consequenes if he dont.

not going to bother to talk to him about this unless he ask me. scarly people here say i am the same brudda. haha!

Age has nothing to do with being a sucker.
Suckers are willing, idiots don't have a choice.

I know of even bigger assholes who gave up alot of things in this world for women, women not worthy of their emotions and feelings.
I know its everyone's right to fall in love with anyone else but at the end of the day their wives left them.
Their lives became miserable because all money is poured into the bottomless pit and they lie to friends.
So when the bitches left, what is he left with?
Nothing!

[Darkstorm]

good 4 him. lets hope he have a happy ending out of this.
how well he tip. $100?

A happy ending? Maybe for him and his PRC girl.....but what about his wife? Or alternatively, a happy ending for him and his wife, but not the PRC girl.
Someone has got to lose......

[sadfa]

A happy ending? Maybe for him and his PRC girl.....but what about his wife? Or alternatively, a happy ending for him and his wife, but not the PRC girl.
Someone has got to lose......

true. the guy is old enough 2 bear the consequences of his own actions.

[ah huathuat]

jus to caution all bros NOT to get too serious in realationship originates from this type of environment. imagine relationship nurtured from a normal environment is already so fragile that will still lead to breakage and broken heart, let alone in love with a gal from ktv!

i am not trying to discourage anyone from getting into this type of relationship as love is blind. but normally it ends up with nothing! however, there is still instance where success is possible, jus like winning first prize in the sillypore big sweep.

anyway life still have to go on...

[Sniper2]

Red Light Warning

Try yr UTMOST BEST (and if u fail, try again and again to pull the handbrake) not to get involved with these angels of the night. Don't go looking for love in all the wrong places.

Why do u think it's called a RED light district?? It's supposed to forwarn u of the dangers. If it's meant to entice u or romance you or lull you, it'll be called the pink light districk or the blue light district.

RED - DANGER, BEWARE, Be Forwarned!!!


No Fairy Tale Ending

It will help if the stats tell you that out of 10 cases of customers crossing the line with prostitutes, 8 were successful and they lived happily ever after. Wouldn't that be nice and encouraging? As it is, it is already so damn fucking tough on the heart and wallet.

But alas no, it is NOT TO BE. And when even the OKTs, some of the more kind hearted prostitutes themselves advise AGAINST the idea of customer and prostitutes marrying, then it has to reach a stage where we ought to WISE UP and LISTEN and not 'long biak' (whack forehead against the wall).

Dreams... fantasies... fairy tales... sigh... those lovely endings...
Oh woe the webs of deceit that we, or is it the gals, weave...

Everybody wishes for a beautiful ending, including me. Who doesn't? However, some things are not meant to be and we just have to leave them at that.

Have fun but please GUARD YR HEART WELL AT ALL TIMES.


The Perversion Of Paid Love

If one is unable to find real love in the "normal" realm, what makes one assume the "feeling" one paid for is genuine, choosing to believe in "bought" love is not a healthy solution.

It is not really love... becoz u don't start off loving someone by paying them money to have explosive sex and then get to know them later... the whole process in its proper, natural sequence has been perverted and reversed... so it cannot be love... more like FRIENDSHIP WITH SEX. Think about it.


Huan Chang Wo Zhen Qin (Money Don't Lie)

Hookers hook, that's what they do, and they don't fall in love with clients. If the guys pay the girl for sex the first time, the relationship can never be anything other than on a hooker-client basis.

When customers tell them they like them, they just shrugged it off. Cos why? Customers can say this to them, they can also say it to other pros. In their mind, they don't trust men. They only trust money because money don't lie.

1 girl once told me this which I still remember in my mind. "You all pay money, I service you. I make you feel good, you make my pocket feel good. We help each other".

Their job is to service the customers. The motive is to get money. Not because they love sex. Your job as the customer is not to abuse the power when you pay.

Don't fool yourself into thinking it's something that it's not. Enjoy it for what it is. People just like to bluff themselves the care and concern they paid for is genuine.


Pay For Play

Sure, they're out for money but who isn't? We all would desire material comfort. Punters pay them to treat us like lovers but when they do provide the service level punters pay for, we turn around and accuse them of cheating our emotions. It's our own fault mah, for being victims of ourselves. Illogical n unreasonable, right? At the end of the day, falling in love with a GL gal is the same as falling in love with a non-GL gal. Both are looking for security, financial and emotionally wise. Diff is, the non-GL gal gets it, she's thought of as lucky. The GL gal gets it, she's assumed to have cheated her way into it.

Of course they must be Oscar actresses, if not how to make us fools feel like a big hero and 'strong man'... they are not a victim of men but rather our conquerer. An outlaw who controls the sexual channel between nature and culture.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. We pay them for Oscar performances. If they provide it, we curse them for playing with our emotions. If they don't provide it, we curse them for poor customer service.

In the end, we all pay for gf service. We should not blame them if we do get it. And if and when we do get it (gf service), we should not be deluded into thinking that's the REAL thing.

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The above was extracted from the 'post your tiraks here!' thread in the GL section posted by bonker911.... Just to replicate here as I feel that the advice is also relevant to KTV, HC gals... especially the last paragraph!!

[manfon]

[QUOTE=Sniper2]Red Light Warning

In the end, we all pay for gf service. We should not blame them if we do get it. And if and when we do get it (gf service), we should not be deluded into thinking that's the REAL thing.


Good point..

[samson]

Agree totally bro. I used to have a regular ktv gal who also didn't want my tips at the end of our sessions. But of cos, got to let her butterfly lor. However, she will always come back to me whenever she's in between 'calls'. So if one nite she sits 4 tables (exclude mine), she'll spend the most 10 mins in each room. The remaining time will be with me. Hehehe.
Btw, she's non-prc but a local chick. I wouldn't consider her a gf cos besides being her regular customer, we dun really meet up outside her 'office' hours.

Hi mr_missile, you great man!
Got non-prc local chick working in KTV ha?
How is your feeling when your chick comes to my table and sayang me?
Ofcourse, I will give her tips, and more tips if she serves me well!
Then she will prefers to serve me more than to sit with you liao!
It is a fact.
So why want to have a GF working in KTV or HC?
Better be her customer than her BF! :D

[sadfa]

Update!

For all bruddas out there interested in the story.
story thus far: my brudda hook up with prc ktv chick. he gave her money and other benefits but she complain and bitch about it and say not enough.

Just as expected, the prc charbor sucked plenty of money from him and dump him and left him hanging up to dry. he told me she left him for another (richer) man. dunno how much she sucked but must be alot cos he also borrow some money from me, supposedly for euro 2004. he told me big hole in his bank account, havent tell his gf yet.

he did get some free fucks from her but alamak, unless he fucks her like 50 times, damn expensive leh.

want to 'kan' him there and then but feel sorry lah, so use this forum to say, I TOLD U SO!

Anyway lesson learnt: be very wary of these prc ktv chicks man. worst than a shark and never think with your small head.

btw dont ask me for her contact hor! i dunno and also dont want to do things like sabo her by releasing the contact. although she jiak my brudda, i dont want to publicise her unless my brudda say so.

[manfon]

Update!

For all bruddas out there interested in the story.
story thus far: my brudda hook up with prc ktv chick. he gave her money and other benefits but she complain and bitch about it and say not enough.

Just as expected, the prc charbor sucked plenty of money from him and dump him and left him hanging up to dry. he told me she left him for another (richer) man. dunno how much she sucked but must be alot cos he also borrow some money from me, supposedly for euro 2004. he told me big hole in his bank account, havent tell his gf yet.

he did get some free fucks from her but alamak, unless he fucks her like 50 times, damn expensive leh.

want to 'kan' him there and then but feel sorry lah, so use this forum to say, I TOLD U SO!

Anyway lesson learnt: be very wary of these prc ktv chicks man. worst than a shark and never think with your small head.

btw dont ask me for her contact hor! i dunno and also dont want to do things like sabo her by releasing the contact. although she jiak my brudda, i dont want to publicise her unless my brudda say so.

Another one bite the dust.. stories after stories.. yet so many heroes fell under their spells.. not only did they get hell, their lampa also swell..
:mad:

[BlurWolfe]

jus to caution all bros NOT to get too serious in realationship originates from this type of environment. .
I have a friend who is quite unhappy nowadays.
He met a local gal during cheong exchanged number but not really keep in touch. He told me abt this only after few months he contacted her agian, this time he really hooked with her, that he went to meet him in her work place, then finally bonked her in hotel.
Later they still keep in contact and as my friend told me one day all calls and sms stopped
He tried called and sms her but no response. As he remembered she was the one initiated it, like trying to have off days together, etc
Anyway this sudden disappearance had upsetted him a lot, when he talked to me asking anything he did wrong but I couldnt think of any. They were together after their 2nd meeting, went out with him, called and received sms frm her always, as seems like both planning for long term relationship.
He told me the gal told him that she is doing it for a couple of years and would get out do some business.
Anyway my friend had been calling her and sms her for about a week since her not responding and he is really down.
We are in same team and I saw him like this trying to take over some of his load also. Just wonder how long I can tahan myself.
I told him forget it but he wants to know why.
Any bros have any answers?

[sadfa]

I have a friend who is quite unhappy nowadays.
He met a local gal during cheong exchanged number but not really keep in touch. He told me abt this only after few months he contacted her agian, this time he really hooked with her, that he went to meet him in her work place, then finally bonked her in hotel.
Later they still keep in contact and as my friend told me one day all calls and sms stopped
He tried called and sms her but no response. As he remembered she was the one initiated it, like trying to have off days together, etc
Anyway this sudden disappearance had upsetted him a lot, when he talked to me asking anything he did wrong but I couldnt think of any. They were together after their 2nd meeting, went out with him, called and received sms frm her always, as seems like both planning for long term relationship.
He told me the gal told him that she is doing it for a couple of years and would get out do some business.
Anyway my friend had been calling her and sms her for about a week since her not responding and he is really down.
We are in same team and I saw him like this trying to take over some of his load also. Just wonder how long I can tahan myself.
I told him forget it but he wants to know why.
Any bros have any answers?

aiyah blurwolfe, if he really wants to know, go to her workplace and find her loh.
million and 1 reasons. maybe she wants someone richer, someone dont know about her past, someone she see a future with, maybe she over sensitive and he say something wrong?

anyway deep down these charbor wont want to be with a customer and want someone who dont know anything about their past. of course, these things seldom work.

[shoot]

I have a friend who is quite unhappy nowadays.
He met a local gal during cheong exchanged number but not really keep in touch. He told me abt this only after few months he contacted her agian, this time he really hooked with her, that he went to meet him in her work place, then finally bonked her in hotel.
Later they still keep in contact and as my friend told me one day all calls and sms stopped
He tried called and sms her but no response. As he remembered she was the one initiated it, like trying to have off days together, etc
Anyway this sudden disappearance had upsetted him a lot, when he talked to me asking anything he did wrong but I couldnt think of any. They were together after their 2nd meeting, went out with him, called and received sms frm her always, as seems like both planning for long term relationship.
He told me the gal told him that she is doing it for a couple of years and would get out do some business.
Anyway my friend had been calling her and sms her for about a week since her not responding and he is really down.
We are in same team and I saw him like this trying to take over some of his load also. Just wonder how long I can tahan myself.
I told him forget it but he wants to know why.
Any bros have any answers?

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.
:)

[anythingz]

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.
:)

too chim for me bro...

[Flame]

Just my 2 cents worth ..
I always believed that a person behaviour is caused by the treatment he/she being subjected into ... meaning to say it is a 2 sided affair.. like a coin...
U think that they cheated on u .. they might always think that u cheated on them..
The point for me is to believe in the events that it routed u to.. during the end u meant feel hurt ..rejected but also u might feel happy and good ending...Human is fragile and not robot ...no matter how they acted , they still have feelings and it up to u to uncover it...we all are fragile and we cheated people or they cheated us because they try to defend or protect themselves and that nothing wrong with it...it just life ..

[shoot]

too chim for me bro...

Don't know why suddenly I can write so well, don't pray pray! Heeee!

[sadfa]

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.
:)

yo bro, how u know got 2 years? blurwolfe never say leh?
but agree w what u say, about the same as my message.
have fun if u can, as long as u can look at yourself in the mirror, no regrets!

[shoot]

yo bro, how u know got 2 years? blurwolfe never say leh?
but agree w what u say, about the same as my message.
have fun if u can, as long as u can look at yourself in the mirror, no regrets!

Not got 2 years lah. She told him she is going to work for A COUPLE OF YEARS mah! Am I right? Heee!
:)

[sadfa]

Just my 2 cents worth ..
I always believed that a person behaviour is caused by the treatment he/she being subjected into ... meaning to say it is a 2 sided affair.. like a coin...
U think that they cheated on u .. they might always think that u cheated on them..
The point for me is to believe in the events that it routed u to.. during the end u meant feel hurt ..rejected but also u might feel happy and good ending...Human is fragile and not robot ...no matter how they acted , they still have feelings and it up to u to uncover it...we all are fragile and we cheated people or they cheated us because they try to defend or protect themselves and that nothing wrong with it...it just life ..

well, i speak with many of these prc in this line, and many auto feel men out to cheat them to free fuck them regardless of who. so in turn they suck the men money first in case they get cheated later.

but my brudda? can tell he crazy over her and not to free fuck her but he kenna chop 1st. so he never mistreat her but he kenna also. maybe it means the charbor will kenna bad karma and deported back to prc soon?

[powertool69]

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way...... ;)

[Randi_Candi]

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way...... ;)

Else another chai tao

[sadfa]

IMHO, I think relationship with these PRC gals is like a game of chess. Always be on guard. Dun let them makan all your pawns, bishop etc.... Instead, makan theirs first!!!

I believed after all my personal experiences, majority of them are ASSHOLES!!! Ask yourself this question:- Why are they here for? for love? or for $$$$??? They are very sly, if they can't fish $$$ from u one way, they'll try another way...... ;)

then u r a chess grand champion bro!
how? afternoon already. 2day got afternoon action or not?

[batami]

After reading this thread I suggest any bros who is thinking of a relationship with a KTV / HC / TN PRC (or Thai or Malay or Indo) should follow these words of advice:

1. Go stand in front of mirror and with think marker pen or (her) lipstick write on your forehead ATM - now you see what she sees
2. Next time you take her out don't overdo the cash - just go cheap - tell her your jobs on the line, no money for a couple of months then ask her if she'll wait (don't hold your breath)
3. Go buy a good book circulating in Thailand called "Money Number One" - also sub titled Money Number 2, Money Number 3
4. Ask yourself what will my parents says / my best friends parents / workers / etc say when you take her "home' - and she announces she works in TN joint..
5. Now go and repeat to your self 100 times - don't be stupid, dont be stupid dont be stupid.....

IF, after following all of these rules you still want to play - go ahead - be prepared for her leaving you with an empty wallet and empty heart!

AND - I should know - failed all rules and ended up older, wiser, poorer as a result of one encounter with a very well known, sexy, good looking PDMM and another equally attractive young PRC and a third encounter with a courgeous Thai.... I am older than most bros on this forum - and that means I have been around long enought to make more mistakes than most of you.... and I have ... so be careful.....

[sadfa]

After reading this thread I suggest any bros who is thinking of a relationship with a KTV / HC / TN PRC (or Thai or Malay or Indo) should follow these words of advice:

1. Go stand in front of mirror and with think marker pen or (her) lipstick write on your forehead ATM - now you see what she sees
2. Next time you take her out don't overdo the cash - just go cheap - tell her your jobs on the line, no money for a couple of months then ask her if she'll wait (don't hold your breath)
3. Go buy a good book circulating in Thailand called "Money Number One" - also sub titled Money Number 2, Money Number 3
4. Ask yourself what will my parents says / my best friends parents / workers / etc say when you take her "home' - and she announces she works in TN joint..
5. Now go and repeat to your self 100 times - don't be stupid, dont be stupid dont be stupid.....

IF, after following all of these rules you still want to play - go ahead - be prepared for her leaving you with an empty wallet and empty heart!

AND - I should know - failed all rules and ended up older, wiser, poorer as a result of one encounter with a very well known, sexy, good looking PDMM and another equally attractive young PRC and a third encounter with a courgeous Thai.... I am older than most bros on this forum - and that means I have been around long enought to make more mistakes than most of you.... and I have ... so be careful.....

clap clap! well said.
care 2 share your experience with the 3 charbors and how your relationship fail?

[batami]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

[suckerll]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.
thanks for the effort put into writing,will be anxiously waiting for your next installment!

[ah huathuat]

Hello Bro BlurWolfe,

Always remember, be prepared for the worse with girls working in such a complicated environment. They will meet different kind of ppl day in day out. 2 years is not a short time, anything can happen. If can be 2gether, good if not then move on. Even if he got the answer what can he do? Whether she is saying the true or not is also a ? mark. Maybe somebody can fulfil her dream quicker or she has fallen 4 another guy etc..... it will never end, there r just 2many possibilities.

Move on bro, I'm not young n I've experience all kinds of events. I've also been depressed b4 n at the end of the day I asked myself why should I b unhappy just bcause of her. There r still so many good friends n beautiful ladies who can bring u cheers. Be happy brother, u don't live twice. Cherish the love u have now n Cheong with yr friends if u like it n enjoy, life is short!

Just my 2 cents worth.
:)

yeah, life is short. play hard! never ever get into serious relationship with any girl be it, ktv, tui na or massage parlor or even freelancer! not even normal girl that you have happened to fall in love with unless you are serious about it and ofcos vice versa for her!

[ah huathuat]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

most of these prc woman whether from ktv or tui na have many boyfriends! they are here to make BIG bucks and can never stay with only one guy! remember it was reported in the paper last year that one chio 35 yo prc woman who claimed to be on "student" pass has 5 boyfriends to live on and average "collection" a month can come up to be more than $5,000 SGD!

so guys, let's dun let these cheat play around with our money or feeling for some of the bros here. no need to be so serious!

[manfon]

Just my 2 cents worth ..
I always believed that a person behaviour is caused by the treatment he/she being subjected into ... meaning to say it is a 2 sided affair.. like a coin...
U think that they cheated on u .. they might always think that u cheated on them..
The point for me is to believe in the events that it routed u to.. during the end u meant feel hurt ..rejected but also u might feel happy and good ending...Human is fragile and not robot ...no matter how they acted , they still have feelings and it up to u to uncover it...we all are fragile and we cheated people or they cheated us because they try to defend or protect themselves and that nothing wrong with it...it just life ..

Dont agree with you that it is a cause and effect thing here.. I have experienced it before myself too.. ie know a gal for awhile and she disappear without a single reason... just vanished into thin air.. til now, she just come and go like a wind...... :(

[BlurWolfe]

Hi Bro Sadfa,

My friend not like me lor, he cheong only once a few months, thats why he got hooked.
Anyway I very sianzzz and have tried not to talk to him already. For going to her work place, she told him not to after they met again said that too expensive, and he could call her hp to date outside. Thats why he thought she is so sweet to him lor.
Anyway for me I always try to obey the "PAP", "Pay and Play".

BW

aiyah blurwolfe, if he really wants to know, go to her workplace and find her loh.
million and 1 reasons. maybe she wants someone richer, someone dont know about her past, someone she see a future with, maybe she over sensitive and he say something wrong?

anyway deep down these charbor wont want to be with a customer and want someone who dont know anything about their past. of course, these things seldom work.

[engster]

Update!



Just curious, which KTV did ur friend know her?

[BlurWolfe]

Bro Shoot,

Good one as in what I told him also.
A lot of bushes around we bro cant be bother so much.
We are not insider so cant say much about their feeling.
I think my friend had a wake up call for a gf, and planning for the future, as in be their own boss after she quit.
I give him 1 more week or I must complain to MD already, sianzzz.
BW

[BlurWolfe]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment -
Bro well said............
Dont mix business with pleasure lor

[DBono]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on ..................
Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

thanks bro for the afford put in sharing ya story...... :)
we'll hv to live in the real world than the world we wanna believe it to b...........but guess there'll still b ppl ard who will hv to learn the hard n cruel way..
.....hope i ain't one of those :rolleyes: ...

[engster]

Update!



Bro, just curious, which KTV ur brudda met her?
My colleague has a similar experience

[Mr.sarawak]

dont play the fire.....if u r rich then ok la...if not dont get into yhe relationship
i kenak many times..

[sadfa]

happy to share if it helps my friends - here's first installment - but if you are looking for sex adventure go to another posting :-) let's call this one "Miss Shopping Trip".

relationship 1. very attractive 30 year old PDMM - this went on over six months - she looks hot, can show lot of personality - when dressed well really turns heads in street! Aaw her a few times at TN - HJ only she doesn't do FJ, asked her out - dinner / drinks - ok went well she verybig on bf/gf feeling holding hands, etc etc but that's all, no bonking - she had to get back to look after her child and doesn't like H81 type of place. Pace slow and steady, no problem - not (yet) too expensive; gave her some small gifts

{Batami's tip of the day: don't buy perfume at $50 - $60 - go to Lucky Plaza and find store (there are a few here and in Golden MIle(and i guess other places) that sells minature perfumes - these are bigger than samples but smaller than duty free size and are real thing but cost $7 - tell her they are special handbag size...can use these in many situations - e.g.regular HC bonk (show little appreciation) more effect than extra $10 tip, etc}

So far, relationship and service always good (improves each time) not too much money spent. Next came the "let's go shopping trip" - she has now assessed size of my wallet and bank account. Where shall we meet - she chooses Takashamaya!! "window shopping" I thought - hand in hand gf / bf stuff. We look here, look there, lunch, nothing bought .. I am safe - then handbags - just to look - she only wanted one little handbag - ouch... in front of lady assistant, and other customers, Just this one darling! When it doesn't have price tag then its bloody expenisive! Out came plastic. Next, short couple of nights away - someone looks after child - great bf / gf stuff - ok in bed, 0nly ok not spectacular. BUT when we discuss what shall we do - she say's Lets go shopping - holy shit here we go - this time clothes - just a pair of jeans and t shirt darling - ouch - brand nameS - she big into top end brands. But by now I have too much of bf / gf feeling to say anything. Next time - away for a couple of days - just before she's moving inot new apt - Let's go shopping - she wanted me to buy whole new houseful for her - declined settled for a few of basics and held on to my plastic.. she decidedly cool,

In summary - she looks real good - I mean real good, gives you big gf/bf feeling on street and when you are out (I am in love again <- no I am not I am stupid)), not much to shout about in bed - low enthusiasm but i want to believe it will get better - she takes but doesn't give (better performance when she was in TN joint); but comes alive when it's Let's go shopping time. I did too much chasing. She sees ATM - I see g/f.

Here were the "warning"signs; in china she was hairdresser for couple of years then stopped work to have child, then husband left her(or vice versa); shop work for a while then borrowed money to come to Singapore; works to get child through school - great I respect her and any of the PDMMs for that and feel really unhappy that some of these girls are loosing jobs and schooling for their kids because work permit changes (but that's another story) - but when i see her wearing expensive jewellry, holding REAL Gucci handbags, real $3000 Brand watch, these did not come from $ as TN lady nor from previous life in china... she's had clearly been on many more Shopping Expeditions with previous "boy friends". I have no objection to anyone having the best she (or her boyfriend) can afford - but the signs were that she is shopping lady and I am ATM. Now, she's moved back to Southern China - spoke once - I go to China on business - she will be very very happy if I can go to see her -she needs to buy some new things for her house!!

Message to bros: check out lifestyle - see if it makes sense - if it does OK - if not - where does money come from. If it is from boy friend ATM and you want to be ATM up to you.

SORRY EVERYONE _ This was damned long and I applaud any bros who reads to the end. Just hope it helps. Other two cases another day.

good story. read thru the whole thing.
the charbor is stoopid (sorry bro batami). come here 2 earn money, not buy branded goods. not practical. who wants to buy a used gucci bag or chanel dress in prc? there they will think its fake.

your perfume thing is good 1. got chance will use it.

[sgmjplayer]

Some good stories instead! But real life and of course fella samsters
who knows me know its true. (Next advenure soon, if there is interest)

About 2 years back, I got to know this gal from ‘Dong Bei’.
A SYT I should say. Most of those who have seen her or her photos
will agree. At 20 YO, she is working in MG on her first trip.
The reason she is working in MG, is coz her cousin cannot make it
to higher class KTVs. When I got to know her, she is left with 2 days
and went Malaysia for Immigration clearance.
Sex was on my mind at that moment, and she is inconvenient.
How lucky was I?

Very unfortunately, she came back and they gave her 2 days to leave,
as her visa is expired, without her knowing. We had an overnight and
it was the best sex I ever had with a PRC at that time.
At that time, CAT150 was the only type of commercial sex I have in
Spore and she was better.

All in my mind was a short fling and that’s it. So I gave her about
$200 changed to 1k RMB and off to airport, she goes.

3 Months later, on a Saturday afternoon, I got a very surprised phone call,
its from her. She is here again. This time round, she is holding a business
Visa and very interestingly, she had 7 days.

I met her and we had a great time. She managed to extend her stay
this time and she stays a total of 23 days.
(She Spent $900 for the extension, NOT on my account)
Of course I sees her day in day out, except times when
I was working or she was working –
She normally goes to Tian An Men / Club Tycoon to work, sits a table
and gets $200 tips. I will pick her up after work and off we go.

Expenses. – Most expensive was Hotel Bills. First ever in my life,
I spend so much going to hotels. $20-30 daily.
Everytime I ask her whats for dinner today?
Is always at a famous chicken rice stall. Her favourite.
Dinner bills is always less than $15/-
Sometimes we eat ‘Dimsum’ at L17 and still can pack leftovers for
her cousin.

At the end, I realised she never asked me to go shopping/etc.
I asked her before she left, why didn’t You ask me for some gifts,
etc, or to go shopping. Her answer is Not buying, shop for what?

She never asked or took a single cent from.
I gave her 5k RMB, before she left.

And I know her Roommate, had 5k SGD from 1man, and afew bags of branded stuffs.
That guy drives a new merc and surely those $$ are peanuts to him.


I am still seeing her on her home webcam when we chat on QQ.

[B.Bollocks]

i have my share of relationships or flings with prcs...bros will agree that being with them...any bro currently having a relationship with prcs wana contact ?maybe form something liek a support group...hahahagood idea?

[sadfa]

i have my share of relationships or flings with prcs...bros will agree that being with them...any bro currently having a relationship with prcs wana contact ?maybe form something liek a support group...hahahagood idea?

haha! what kind of support group u have in mind? so we can bitch about the charbor and their tricks like how they do it to us?

[B.Bollocks]

no..u know how outside people view u when u r out with ur china babe...then at least knowing there are people in the same boat as u will certainly help....

[sadfa]

no..u know how outside people view u when u r out with ur china babe...then at least knowing there are people in the same boat as u will certainly help....

like some1 post in this forum, now very common, so many people dont feel paiseh. if u feel paiseh, u shouldnt be out w her loh.

used 2 feel paiseh, but afterwards heck care them cos they dont know who the fcuk u r unless u r some celebrity. they just jealous u got hot charbor hanging on 2 u. they thinking "wah, b bollocks either tua ki or sibeh wu lui. charbor sibeh hot leh!"

unless the charbor really behave like a low class hooker w u, then different story loh.

[Randi_Candi]

Dont agree with you that it is a cause and effect thing here.. I have experienced it before myself too.. ie know a gal for awhile and she disappear without a single reason... just vanished into thin air.. til now, she just come and go like a wind...... :(

The hot and cold treatment or real hoodini?
Anyway know of a gal thats like that to me, better for me.
Kinda getting a kick out of it cos like young time puppy luv......

No strings attached on the physical sides too

[Flame]

Just want to pen down my story on one of the GL streetwalker that i had met in last year...
I met her during one of my trip to geylang ...and at that time ..my intention is to see see situation ..when i approached lorong 12 .. i saw her...Quite old around 28 yr olds... i walked for about near to one hour ..before i quote what her price.. she smiled and said that she had already noticed me for the past hr and why now then i asked her...
She is very attentive to my need and say i very cute..of course at that time ..my mind is .."yah ...another tactics of them..." When up the hotel, she bathed me and then proceed to the bed.. As at that time , i got no intention for fj, just want to hj .. so i asked her to hand job .. she agreed and then after a while .. she asked me if i wanted to bj and i took very long to cum .. she asked me what the reason .. i say that i prefer her to wear her dress so that i could touch from there.. surprising she agreed.. After finished , she commented me again ..that i was cute and give me her handphone no so that i could call her again...Since then ..it begin...
She was from yunan and previously working as an assistant in china until she get retrenched then she worked in this line..
During that time , i met her again at the afternoon as she say that she can give me more then one hr as she knew that i very difficult to cum..
We chatted alot and me found out that she is not one of the gl gals that i had..she doesn't ask for more money after service and sometimes it extend to more than an hr.. i continued a few session with her as i felt that she is just like my gf.. i could ask her to bath with me ..wear her dress while bj me .. as i fondle her..etc..
She poor and that for sure.. but she also very conscious towards her health .. as i saw her bathing her private part with dettol throughly..
The day finally came for her to leave singapore and go to batam...and at that moment , she wanted me to go with her and she is willing to spend one day with me in batam..we could go swim ..shop .. etc.. At that time, me wanted to go but got job on hand and btw me at that time , only 24 ..just out cheonging....
The only gift that i could remember that she asked me to buy is just a 10-20 dollars swimming suit so that she could bring to batam for swim...I declined at the time .. cause i felt it so embrassing to buy a women clothes....
Now thinking back .. all i had to said is that she had left me a very wonderful experience in my life and it will remain in my heart for as long as i live..
She also told me that at that time one of the guy in gl had cheated her .. say he a virgin some more...so as a custom.. they had to give red packet to him .. Then the next day ..she still saw the fucking guy using the fucking trick on the other gal...
We chatted alot and she is one of the gal that u would want her to be ur wife.....no airs..no attitude..just concerning looks ..and understanding ...
I do missed her...and thanks her for the wonderful experience she had given to me...
In the end, i felt that it not a wasted of money.. it just that as i had say earlier...human is fragile.. we need people to understand us and to care about us...and maybe at that time.. we both clicked....

[K9696]

Hi .. Bro..

Good Experience for you. Indeed they are gals who not go for your money.. Myself I met one, she's from Hokkien.. not very beautiful, met her at one very small KTV and also many years ago.. we still keep in tourch over the phone. Good luck to you. But do remember that not all Gals are Kind.. Some are out to Con you... :)

[sadfa]

Just want to pen down my story on one of the GL streetwalker that i had met in last year...
I met her during one of my trip to geylang ...and at that time ..my intention is to see see situation ..when i approached lorong 12 .. i saw her...Quite old around 28 yr olds... i walked for about near to one hour ..before i quote what her price.. she smiled and said that she had already noticed me for the past hr and why now then i asked her...
She is very attentive to my need and say i very cute..of course at that time ..my mind is .."yah ...another tactics of them..." When up the hotel, she bathed me and then proceed to the bed.. As at that time , i got no intention for fj, just want to hj .. so i asked her to hand job .. she agreed and then after a while .. she asked me if i wanted to bj and i took very long to cum .. she asked me what the reason .. i say that i prefer her to wear her dress so that i could touch from there.. surprising she agreed.. After finished , she commented me again ..that i was cute and give me her handphone no so that i could call her again...Since then ..it begin...
She was from yunan and previously working as an assistant in china until she get retrenched then she worked in this line..
During that time , i met her again at the afternoon as she say that she can give me more then one hr as she knew that i very difficult to cum..
We chatted alot and me found out that she is not one of the gl gals that i had..she doesn't ask for more money after service and sometimes it extend to more than an hr.. i continued a few session with her as i felt that she is just like my gf.. i could ask her to bath with me ..wear her dress while bj me .. as i fondle her..etc..
She poor and that for sure.. but she also very conscious towards her health .. as i saw her bathing her private part with dettol throughly..
The day finally came for her to leave singapore and go to batam...and at that moment , she wanted me to go with her and she is willing to spend one day with me in batam..we could go swim ..shop .. etc.. At that time, me wanted to go but got job on hand and btw me at that time , only 24 ..just out cheonging....
The only gift that i could remember that she asked me to buy is just a 10-20 dollars swimming suit so that she could bring to batam for swim...I declined at the time .. cause i felt it so embrassing to buy a women clothes....
Now thinking back .. all i had to said is that she had left me a very wonderful experience in my life and it will remain in my heart for as long as i live..
She also told me that at that time one of the guy in gl had cheated her .. say he a virgin some more...so as a custom.. they had to give red packet to him .. Then the next day ..she still saw the fucking guy using the fucking trick on the other gal...
We chatted alot and she is one of the gal that u would want her to be ur wife.....no airs..no attitude..just concerning looks ..and understanding ...
I do missed her...and thanks her for the wonderful experience she had given to me...
In the end, i felt that it not a wasted of money.. it just that as i had say earlier...human is fragile.. we need people to understand us and to care about us...and maybe at that time.. we both clicked....

very sweet story. since she never ask u more money or presents than what u pay for bonking her, no issue of conning u.

u should buy the swim suit. go with her 2 choose and not go 2 metro n buy 4 her. its so cheap. if u dont buy, she would think knn, in your eyes, i not even worth the 20 bucks.

[Flame]

As i had said earlier in the post, me just cheonging in the scene... and always had the feeling of fear when going out with gl gal...Though now,regretted for the indecisive action that i had made...I should have bought her the swimming suit...and should also gave her my handphone no...
Now it just one part of my wonderful memory..

[sadfa]

As i had said earlier in the post, me just cheonging in the scene... and always had the feeling of fear when going out with gl gal...Though now,regretted for the indecisive action that i had made...I should have bought her the swimming suit...and should also gave her my handphone no...
Now it just one part of my wonderful memory..

4 what its worth, many of them do come back again.
so u can keep a lookout when u go gl or call her hp no on and off.

[shoot]

4 what its worth, many of them do come back again.
so u can keep a lookout when u go gl or call her hp no on and off.

Yah, Bro sadfa is right. They may come back. If both of u r fated to meet each other again, u will.

As I had posted my story here b4, my girl is with me for 3 year already. We nearly lost contact completely 1 year after I knew her in a KTV. Until 1 night I went back to that KTV with my friends again. Just as I walked in, n happened to turn my head saw a figure back facing me that looks very much like her. I walked up n take a look n she was happily surprised that it was me. She told me she lost her hp n contacts all together after going back.

So, hope that my encounter will give Bro Flame a glimes of hope if u really hope to see her again. Cheerz mate!
:)

[Flame]

Thks for all the concerns .. me also wish to meet her again ...
The chatting with her ..in the hotel room , with her body closed to me ..watching tv(Channel U--i could still remember..)..fondling her..and listening to her telling her story ....of her family in yunan ..friends and her sister baby boy all those embedded deeply in my mind..The pleasure of eating noodles with her in the hotel room as i suggested that we eat in the hotel..though she wanted to eat at the geylang food court...The feeling of her spraying perfume in my neck as it a gift from one of her customer..pampering me..treating me eat apples...
It all in my mind....
Now as i found out..especially in geylang there..the streetwalkers there are mostly concerned about money, fast and that it ..they don't ever look at u in the eyes...they only look in your pocket..not to say that they are wrong..but it just different..very different...
it is very hard to map down my feeling now ...as some might say, they are just for money..it just an exchange..a business deal..but until u experience urself then u know that it is really very different..the feeling of her ..grabbing ur hand closed to her...hugging...it is so different..it is more than money exchange...
I do miss her ...her cute smile.....the way she talk......

[Van Basten]

Thks for all the concerns .. me also wish to meet her again ...
The chatting with her ..in the hotel room , with her body closed to me ..watching tv(Channel U--i could still remember..)..fondling her..and listening to her telling her story ....of her family in yunan ..friends and her sister baby boy all those embedded deeply in my mind..The pleasure of eating noodles with her in the hotel room as i suggested that we eat in the hotel..though she wanted to eat at the geylang food court...The feeling of her spraying perfume in my neck as it a gift from one of her customer..pampering me..treating me eat apples...
It all in my mind....
Now as i found out..especially in geylang there..the streetwalkers there are mostly concerned about money, fast and that it ..they don't ever look at u in the eyes...they only look in your pocket..not to say that they are wrong..but it just different..very different...
it is very hard to map down my feeling now ...as some might say, they are just for money..it just an exchange..a business deal..but until u experience urself then u know that it is really very different..the feeling of her ..grabbing ur hand closed to her...hugging...it is so different..it is more than money exchange...
I do miss her ...her cute smile.....the way she talk......

come to think of it, china shld have remained closed :p damn deng... these china mm breaks our hearts. haiz...

cheong with a heart, but leave yr heart at the door.

[Phucker]

come to think of it, china shld have remained closed :p damn deng... these china mm breaks our hearts. haiz...

cheong with a heart, but leave yr heart at the door.

saying and doing are different things.
even for me....kena once by my thai tirak still can gong gong fall for meimei
we ownself find prob for ourselves.....what to do?

[Van Basten]

saying and doing are different things.
even for me....kena once by my thai tirak still can gong gong fall for meimei
we ownself find prob for ourselves.....what to do?

ya lor... agreed... but those Sweet Young Things haiz... i gong gong also but when i c her... my heart melts like ice.. cant even bring myself to be angry with her for asking $$$ from me. sometimes u cant blame them for being $$ suckers. wat's their primary purpose of coming here? for $$ not love leh...

GL is a wonderland n chinaland is fantasy world.. but beneath the happiness is emptiness..

i have cheong china land beyond my wildest imagination (i hao lian lah).. there is nothing left in chinaland for me.. time for HC. malaysia boleh :D

[sdfr]

My brudda just courted and hook a prc ktv girl as a girlfriend. I only date them but never have long term relationship with them b4.

i told him she will suck his money dry sooner or later, but he dont believe me. Anyone here with any experience or horror stories about these relationship so i can knock some sense into him. if got happy stories about them, let me have them too.

bro...! i dated some PRC ktv gal b4. They are ok! in fact, as long as you are a MAN and can control them, you will be OK! tip: don't be a ROBERT, don simply simply buy thing for them. keep to a budget! then you will be ok. if the prc don't like it, just tell her: i am not your walking wallet, if u don like FUCK OFF. those tat actually fuck off u know laaaaa. those still go out with you is ok laaaa

however my dating with prc never serious laaaaaaa. serious relationship better not laa. many problem.

[sharp]

For those lao jiao cheonging KTV can someone tell me whether those hostess will automatically french kiss their customers? I know for most who can "play" may allow you to touch their bodies, do hj, bj etc on you but french kiss leh???

[Van Basten]

For those lao jiao cheonging KTV can someone tell me whether those hostess will automatically french kiss their customers? I know for most who can "play" may allow you to touch their bodies, do hj, bj etc on you but french kiss leh???

normally they wont french kiss u.. some wont even kiss u.. but if they french kiss u e 1st time n they tell u they like u, maybe u r looking at a super $$$ sucker. if they jus kiss u e 1st time rd, most probably they do like u a bit.. next time rd u can french kiss them liao :D but beware... of the kiss of the spider woman! :D it's infectious!

[sadfa]

For those lao jiao cheonging KTV can someone tell me whether those hostess will automatically french kiss their customers? I know for most who can "play" may allow you to touch their bodies, do hj, bj etc on you but french kiss leh???

most of these charbor have a warped idea, its ok to do bbbj but not ok 2 kiss. even if kiss, they do it with their tongue stuck out and a less than 1 sec kiss. so 2 answer your question, they dont kiss or french kiss.

y u want them to kiss u when their mouth is a ashtray? dunno how many packets they smoke 1 night, but a stick is always in their mouth. and dunno which uncle they kiss or cock they suck b4 kissing u.

[shoot]

For those lao jiao cheonging KTV can someone tell me whether those hostess will automatically french kiss their customers? I know for most who can "play" may allow you to touch their bodies, do hj, bj etc on you but french kiss leh???

Bro sharp,

Most of the girls wouldn't auto french kiss u unless u make the first move. If they don't reject u, go ahead. Even pros don't auto french kiss u (only some) because girls working in this line, mouth to mouth kissing is only for their boyfriend or someone they truely love. This is rule imply by themselve and believe by them.
:)

[K9696]

Yes... veri agreed with u... KTV seldom like Kissing..
"Remember.. Germs are passed from the Mounth.."
Rule of the game is stay clear with the Kissing....

[sharp]

Bro sharp,

Most of the girls wouldn't auto french kiss u unless u make the first move. If they don't reject u, go ahead. Even pros don't auto french kiss u (only some) because girls working in this line, mouth to mouth kissing is only for their boyfriend or someone they truely love. This is rule imply by themselve and believe by them.
:)

Bro Shoot

The gal whom accompanied me started kissing me on the cheek then the lips and french kissed me. I was taken back and sealed my lips immediately as I am afraid of possible complication. It sounded funny when she asked "Ni bu xi huan wo, ni bu ran wo qing ni". I seriously thought french kiss was meant for lovers * Shrug*

[Van Basten]

just wondering abt this... anybody heard anything or has any frens or wat ever who married china girls? i mean those working in the KTVs or those in L8, L10....

[Van Basten]

Bro sharp,

Most of the girls wouldn't auto french kiss u unless u make the first move. If they don't reject u, go ahead. Even pros don't auto french kiss u (only some) because girls working in this line, mouth to mouth kissing is only for their boyfriend or someone they truely love. This is rule imply by themselve and believe by them.
:)

actually it's better not to kiss them at all lah.. i normally dont kiss them at all because no feelings for them how to kiss them? just grab their boobs... screw n forget better. the few times the girls initiated to kiss me, then gradually french kiss i ended up with a broken heart... sob :(

[imom]

Bro,

I posted this story about a friend of mine on this page of this thread:

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=19170&page=5&pp=15

Post no. 63.



just wondering abt this... anybody heard anything or has any frens or wat ever who married china girls? i mean those working in the KTVs or those in L8, L10....

[shoot]

Bro Shoot

The gal whom accompanied me started kissing me on the cheek then the lips and french kissed me. I was taken back and sealed my lips immediately as I am afraid of possible complication. It sounded funny when she asked "Ni bu xi huan wo, ni bu ran wo qing ni". I seriously thought french kiss was meant for lovers * Shrug*

Well, time has changed I supposed. Nowsday, if they like u they will show it by doing anything they think will impress u. Good luck bro!
:)

[WatLoveAbt]

Do u all think it is possible tat those PRC KTV girl fall in love with you? I think i like one and i am trying ve ve ve hard to forget her... no point, correct?

[ultra007]

I have a short stint with a PRC, know her at a TN shop. Does that count.

[dc7176]

Do u all think it is possible tat those PRC KTV girl fall in love with you? I think i like one and i am trying ve ve ve hard to forget her... no point, correct?


Hmm... u sound so familiar ... :D

Use big head to think, not small head!!

U r goin nowhere if u keep on using ur small head to think!

[DavidCheng]

Just ask your friend, "Can he tahan his so called KTV girlfriend to let other men bonk and do handy panky stuff?"

If he can, develop emotion & feeling for the girl, other men may also do the same. Can he then accept her if she happen to be carrying other men's ingrediant?

These are my thoughts for you. Thank you.

[KaZukihito]

One of my friend have a PRC Girl friend ... If i not wrong they have been together for 1 years plus already ... That PRC Girl old that my friend 5 to 7 years ...Anyways i forgot how my years older ... But that PRC girl seem to be nice to my friend ... That Girl know that my friends is younger then her so many year ... But she she love him so much ...

Sometime back My friend try to test water weather she going after money or really love relationship ... My friend told the Girl that he in need of money ... Or he will be jail for years ... He make up a sad story and try to borrow money from her ... He told her weather she has saving can borrow him to do some down payment first and he will return if he not jailed ... He then asked how much you need for the down payment ... Just tell me the actual cash you need she will try to find for him ... My friend quoted 10 thousand ...

Few days later that PRC girl ask my friend to go over their house to collect thing but never tell my friend what things ... So my friend ask me to acompany him go together ... Once we reach her GF house ... The dinner is ready to eat ... And she ask us to help ourself ... And she say she went for a bath first ... So we sited down the soft fa ... To wait for her ...

20 to 30 min later she out from the bath room ... And saw us not eating ... She ask why havent eat ... Iszit not suit us ... My friend reply say we waiting for you to eat together ... after a while she say come eat together if not the dish cool already not good for health ... So we started our dinner ... B4 finish up the dish my friend ask , You ask me to come collect what things ... Dont tell me come here collect dinner ... Making a joke ... As in i dont know how to say it out or make it very funny ... But to my friend say that really make us upside down ...

After the laugh ... I and my friend suprice to see that ... The girl went into the room and take a big school bag out ... And she ask my friend to take it back and return her when he have done everything ... From there my friend ask what the hell inside the school bag ... My friend too over the school bag and unzip it ... saw that cash in the school bag ... But never go count it ... i was blur and watch that girl wash up the plate ...

And my friend ask me how ? what to tell her ... I told my friend that she is not after your money ... I dont know how to help you settle ... Do own time own target ... And i move to soft fa to watch SCV ... Hee Hee ... He scold me (jie ah)Cruler ... During that day my friend really gitty for what he done ... On that day he took the money and go few days later he return the money to so call PRC GF ... Since then i also know how he settle ... As i know now they two are a loving Pair ... Till now they still together ...

THE END

Sorry for writing so long story just wanna share with you guys that not all PRC GIRL are bad just depend on your own and luck ... I was looking for a PRC Girl also ... But no gut to jio her ...

Thanks you guys and girl reading this long story ...

If you are happy with the writing dont mind up my point ... If you dont like it or whatever can zap my point also ... As this is my first time writing so long story for you guys and girls to share about the PRC Girl are not so bad ... They are not as bad we all things ...

[sleaguepunter]

My gf oso ktv girl,last time i courted her & nw we r still 2gether. Nw she wk normal job, and we oso bear all the hard time 2gether.

How come in this other thread u claimed to be woman?:confused:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/132132-hw-u-feel-when-u-1st-time-eat-