Fallen for a PRC WL/FL? Read This

[Nato17]

Been playing this game for a decade and more. Been hurt more than once; more times than I care to remember. The last one that I was hurt by was a WL, which some brothers may already know. That aside, I have been thinking quite some time and here are some conclusions that I thought I would like to share with my bretheren here.

PRC women coming to Singapore, are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys. In fact, I would say more than 90% of them are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys.

Why do I say that?

Reason is this: For those who have Yellow Card; they were recruited to come to Singapore to sell what should be their most private and most intimate part for money. Be it whether it is through an agent or otherwise. Now, if they came from an agent; they must have some sort of contact which I would say is shady. If it is through friends, then let me ask you this: How many of us cheongsters would share with your friends you are fucking a WL???

For those who have White Cards; they travelled to an unknown country with barely enuff living expenses. I don't know about you, but I certainly would not go to a country with barely 2 days of living expenses and hope and pray that I can get through my monthly expense. These women do know what they are getting into most of the time. So you think these women are worth the trouble?

This applies to both FLs/WLs.

[sta1100]

Been a FL or WL end of the day she is doing this for $$$, you may like or love her does she have the same feeling for you ???. If you have a liking for her just spend a bit more $$ on her but not your heart is not worth.

I just know a WL we have been out a few time she told me openly that she have feeling for me and she is also seeing other guy, when she goes out with them she will inform me. But end of the day $$ is still important to her.
When she is invited to go out with them she know wat she want from them is $$ and they want from her is her xxxx, but I did tell her who you goes out him you don't need to tell me, and I told her we are not possible to be together.



Been playing this game for a decade and more. Been hurt more than once; more times than I care to remember. The last one that I was hurt by was a WL, which some brothers may already know. That aside, I have been thinking quite some time and here are some conclusions that I thought I would like to share with my bretheren here.

PRC women coming to Singapore, are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys. In fact, I would say more than 90% of them are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys.

Why do I say that?

Reason is this: For those who have Yellow Card; they were recruited to come to Singapore to sell what should be their most private and most intimate part for money. Be it whether it is through an agent or otherwise. Now, if they came from an agent; they must have some sort of contact which I would say is shady. If it is through friends, then let me ask you this: How many of us cheongsters would share with your friends you are fucking a WL???

For those who have White Cards; they travelled to an unknown country with barely enuff living expenses. I don't know about you, but I certainly would not go to a country with barely 2 days of living expenses and hope and pray that I can get through my monthly expense. These women do know what they are getting into most of the time. So you think these women are worth the trouble?

This applies to both FLs/WLs.

[sammyboyfor]

This applies to both FLs/WLs.

Huh????? What's the difference betweeen an FL and a WL. :confused::confused: Aren't they one and the same?????:rolleyes:

[ePERMIT]

TS bro, I dun really get what you mean. Anyway their main aim is to earn as much as they can before heading back.

[jameschong1]

Been playing this game for a decade and more. Been hurt more than once; more times than I care to remember. The last one that I was hurt by was a WL, which some brothers may already know.
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yeah, we all know u are a sucker now!
u mean this world has no girl that u must fall in luv with a PRC prostitute?
imagine, your uncle one day tell u that he has up your wife before at geylang and her sgc damn tok kong?

[teebs_darklord]

Been playing this game for a decade and more. Been hurt more than once; more times than I care to remember. The last one that I was hurt by was a WL, which some brothers may already know. That aside, I have been thinking quite some time and here are some conclusions that I thought I would like to share with my bretheren here.

PRC women coming to Singapore, are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys. In fact, I would say more than 90% of them are more street smart than most Singaporean Guys.

Why do I say that?

Reason is this: For those who have Yellow Card; they were recruited to come to Singapore to sell what should be their most private and most intimate part for money. Be it whether it is through an agent or otherwise. Now, if they came from an agent; they must have some sort of contact which I would say is shady. If it is through friends, then let me ask you this: How many of us cheongsters would share with your friends you are fucking a WL???

For those who have White Cards; they travelled to an unknown country with barely enuff living expenses. I don't know about you, but I certainly would not go to a country with barely 2 days of living expenses and hope and pray that I can get through my monthly expense. These women do know what they are getting into most of the time. So you think these women are worth the trouble?

This applies to both FLs/WLs.

Bro, just fuck and forget lah. Falling in love with FLs/WLs is usually a road of no return. The only one who is going to suffer is you. True, there are some guys who managed to get happy endings with their ex FL/WL gfs but these are probably less than 0.1% of all people who fall in love with FLs/WLs.

Frankly speaking, these FLs/WLs are here to make money. They are not here to look for love or relationships. Of course if any guy falls for them, they won't reject his advances either since to them, it is a god sent gift.

Many guys always say they want to KC the gals and it's just for fun but end up, they usually fall off the deep end and end up "falling in love" with the gal. And that's when all the troubles start.

As I always say, KC a gal always leads to much more trouble than it is worth. And always remember, fuck and forget is the best policy when visiting FLs/WLs.

[seasecrets]

Life is too short, dont take it too seriously as it will only hurt yourself.

[drekman]

Do u know how many guys they have cheated and con of ur money. They fuck a lot of guys.

[thomastankuku]

Wat diff it make wether the hooker call herself FL WL massage girl KTV lady or HFj singer?

Sell body is sell body why spend time tok theory about whores?

When they make decision they step into game not for ordinary people to play. I pity those who pity them.they wont ever pity you back so cheat and lie to yourself say u mr charity is just self bluf no backbone.

No matter they cum from PRc vietnam china is same one.

Even the local one no diff dont understand why people will entertain them listen to their fake sob story cos they play for attention like dat mean likely psycho game liao.

problem is people ego big. Not so much the whore is special although also will boast that but they think they so special til even hooker 'fall in love ' with them!!

Real life is not just kio kway. Whores are not in it to find permanent prince Charming.

Like other bro say KC is game like gambling but u tio tiao you will stop treating as one and even want to change ur life and everything.

Over a whore and fake feeling??! In the end sure regret one la. Stick with fuck n Forget best.

[angmoguy]

its all about the $$$$, everything else is just conversation.
If you have a "connection" with the girl, be very careful, to her its all a game to play on you to get more $$$$.
When you rent a car, you drive it, enjoy it, return it, pay for it. its the same when you "rent" a girl. pay the rental charge & walk away.

[basic]

yellow and white card gou whatdiffer its all about the $$$$, everything else is just conversation.
If you have a "connection" with the girl, be very careful, to her its all a game to play on you to get more $$$$.
When you rent a car, you drive it, enjoy it, return it, pay for it. its the same when you "rent" a girl. pay the rental charge & walk away.

[k_fed]

Sell body is sell body why spend time tok theory about whores?

When they make decision they step into game not for ordinary people to play. I pity those who pity them.they wont ever pity you back so cheat and lie to yourself say u mr charity is just self bluf no backbone.

No matter they cum from PRc vietnam china is same one.

Even the local one no diff dont understand why people will entertain them listen to their fake sob story cos they play for attention like dat mean likely psycho game liao.

problem is people ego big. Not so much the whore is special although also will boast that but they think they so special til even hooker 'fall in love ' with them!!

Real life is not just kio kway. Whores are not in it to find permanent prince Charming.

Like other bro say KC is game like gambling but u tio tiao you will stop treating as one and even want to change ur life and everything.

Over a whore and fake feeling??! In the end sure regret one la. Stick with fuck n Forget best.

Haha. SO true bro. Alot of bros here like to play white knight to fls here. Bui tahan.

[makemecum]

Haha. SO true bro. Alot of bros here like to play white knight to fls here. Bui tahan.

its the stifling society created by the PAPPY...
guys cannot find soul mate den go to find relief in PRC...sexual or heart
n in dis damn stress place, guy heart are weak...
they r not trying to be shiny armor knight but trying to compensate emptiness with something they find more meaningful (maybe hollow though) things in life called the elusive LOVE!!!:(:o

[Nato17]

Huh????? What's the difference betweeen an FL and a WL. :confused::confused: Aren't they one and the same?????:rolleyes:

FL at least to me is a FREE LANCE who is not working for a boss. While a WL is someone who is a brothel? Should that not be the definition?

[Nato17]

Haha. SO true bro. Alot of bros here like to play white knight to fls here. Bui tahan.

I think we have been influenced too much by Pretty Woman.

That aside, here is some interesting facts:

1. We have been brought up differently from the PRC women.

To most PRC women, they are selling their bodies and there is nothing wrong. But to us guys, especially Singaporean Men, that is wrong, or at least that is how we have been brought up. That is where the point of contention is. They believe that if they do not tell their prospective husband to be that they have sold their bodies, it is ok. Kinda like an ostrich if you ask me.

They will claim that a lot of people do it. But that does not equate to being right.

Here is a case in point: If I am correct, I remember that in the Good Old Days of Knights and Lords, that in Europe, maidens that were going to be married the masters of the land could screw the maiden, before she consumate her marriage with her partner. Kinda screwed if you ask me. So being a norm in that country does not mean it is correct.

Again, that being said, here is another analogy about a norm which we all accept; but is not universally accepted. In Germany during the World War II, the church, the nation and its people allowed the slaughter of Jews; Hence the Holocaust. Now, I am not talking about religion here, but talking about lives. The country accepted genocide as acceptable; does it mean it is correct?

Now, bringing into parallel, just because a lot of PRC think that fucking for cash is acceptable, does it mean it is correct? I think, only time will tell. But my guess is this: I think Singaporean Guys are correct, fucking for money is crap. But that again, if there is no demand, there is no supply.

[lovetogive]

It is not the PRC women had no love. We must also think about what we can give them. If you can give them house, money in the bank and monthly expenses. They can love you.

They also know we man go for the fxxxing and they have no security. So what cheat each other. If they love you, can you don't let them work. So, if you have feeling for them, give bait more money and let them continue with their work and you continue with yr life

[afx2222]

Honestly, any FL/WL/ML regardless of what nationality, religion, culture, mindset, body, mind and soul, they have set a boundary. Their strictest rule is, NEVER EVER FALLING IN LOVE WITH THEIR CLIENT/CUSTOMER. Even if we are to pretend some white knight in shining armor or white horse prince, these women in this flesh trade have devoted themselves for being a materialistic and realistic species which refrained themselves from falling in love, being in love or having develop feeling for opposite sex (whore monger:rolleyes: )

But the exception is, when the right time has come, she will either quit or settle down. What matter to us (monger, cheongster, white knight or hero you name it), we are only perceived as a consumer who willing to buy a product that we deem as a tool that satisfy our lust. The tool, usually the FL/WL/ML are always condemned by men despite we men pay them to give us GFE, passionate feeling and enslave them to fulfill our fantasy with money during the course. However, falling in love is a nature of human being. Who say's whore can't or never falling in love? Should anyone of us in SBF lucky enough to be chosen as the lover of a particular whore, you better start digging 2 graves.

[Nato17]

Honestly, any FL/WL/ML regardless of what nationality, religion, culture, mindset, body, mind and soul, they have set a boundary. Their strictest rule is, NEVER EVER FALLING IN LOVE WITH THEIR CLIENT/CUSTOMER. Even if we are to pretend some white knight in shining armor or white horse prince, these women in this flesh trade have devoted themselves for being a materialistic and realistic species which refrained themselves from falling in love, being in love or having develop feeling for opposite sex (whore monger:rolleyes: )

But the exception is, when the right time has come, she will either quit or settle down. What matter to us (monger, cheongster, white knight or hero you name it), we are only perceived as a consumer who willing to buy a product that we deem as a tool that satisfy our lust. The tool, usually the FL/WL/ML are always condemned by men despite we men pay them to give us GFE, passionate feeling and enslave them to fulfill our fantasy with money during the course. However, falling in love is a nature of human being. Who say's whore can't or never falling in love? Should anyone of us in SBF lucky enough to be chosen as the lover of a particular whore, you better start digging 2 graves.

You have a unique style of answering. :) Anyway, that aside, great post. I wish I had time to answer each point that you brought up. But the point I wanted to ask is why two graves????

[Nato17]

It is not the PRC women had no love. We must also think about what we can give them. If you can give them house, money in the bank and monthly expenses. They can love you.

They also know we man go for the fxxxing and they have no security. So what cheat each other. If they love you, can you don't let them work. So, if you have feeling for them, give bait more money and let them continue with their work and you continue with yr life

Here is what I do not understand. I have played and sowed my wild oats and each time still I get hurt. It isn't about the money, I mean, I can still bring to the table or rather a firepower of 20k a month, but that does mean that they will break the cycle at least that is my feeling most of the time.

[prose]

She cannot appropriately reciprocate your love because some of it has been reciprocated to your money.

[amboose]

I know of a case where a local man jumped to his death coz he was shunned by his PRC lover/whore. Feel sorry for his parents.

[jameschong1]

I know of a case where a local man jumped to his death coz he was shunned by his PRC lover/whore. Feel sorry for his parents.

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y r singaporeans so weak in relation with prc prostitutes?

[lovetogive]

Here is what I do not understand. I have played and sowed my wild oats and each time still I get hurt. It isn't about the money, I mean, I can still bring to the table or rather a firepower of 20k a month, but that does mean that they will break the cycle at least that is my feeling most of the time.

They will break the cycle if they love you and know that you can commit long term, such as marrying them or fathering a child for them, with a decent monthly allowances, of course. However, these group of PRC must have worked for many years, have cash in their bank and properties in their hometown. If the above is not what we are ready to do, why want them to break the cycle. That's why you see pregnant PRC women with runaway Singapore man. They taught they are ready, enjoying all the loves and forget the pain later.

[Boro]

good wake up call

[afx2222]

You have a unique style of answering. :) Anyway, that aside, great post. I wish I had time to answer each point that you brought up. But the point I wanted to ask is why two graves????

Should a whore monger falling in love or develop feeling for a commercial whore, then he should be well prepared to sacrifice body and soul if want to be a winner in a game of courtship. Like an old chinese proverb "Before you for for avenge, you first dig two grave. If you were not be dead, then I'll be busy"

[Ken79]

End of the day you are just one of her many cash cows that she milks.
If more rapport maybe she will tell u more of her personal life, but that's it.

All they want is to make as much as possible wherever they are and then go back to their own countries to start life afresh, most i asked said they want to open retail store selling clothes.

So for them being FL/Hostetss, etc is like a shortcut + tradeoff to their eventual goal and we are all here to fund it.

As the saying goes - no one cares that much about the journey, all that matters is the outcome.
So in all likelihood the women we have bonked few years ago and beyond might have their own stores now back in China while we are still walking the streets of GL or meeting FL in motels.

[psp100]

Whores are for fucking not loving. Just fuck them and be done with it. Remember, they are here for money ONLY:D

[johndoe8808]

End of the day you are just one of her many cash cows that she milks.
If more rapport maybe she will tell u more of her personal life, but that's it.

All they want is to make as much as possible wherever they are and then go back to their own countries to start life afresh, most i asked said they want to open retail store selling clothes.

So for them being FL/Hostetss, etc is like a shortcut + tradeoff to their eventual goal and we are all here to fund it.

As the saying goes - no one cares that much about the journey, all that matters is the outcome.
So in all likelihood the women we have bonked few years ago and beyond might have their own stores now back in China while we are still walking the streets of GL or meeting FL in motels.

absolutely true. what you've written.
in the end sob stories aside, many of them had the choice between this line and another lower paying one, in a factory somewhere.

it's just how much they're willing to give up to get where they want as soon as they can.

[Nato17]

As the saying goes - no one cares that much about the journey, all that matters is the outcome.
So in all likelihood the women we have bonked few years ago and beyond might have their own stores now back in China while we are still walking the streets of GL or meeting FL in motels.

I totally disagree about the journey and all that matters is the outcome.

As for walking the streets of GL or meeting FLs in motels, well, I again disagree with that outcome a lot of the times. I have seen enuff WL/FL/whatever that after years of bonking guys are still in the line.

For those people who have been bonking since 80's and 90's will remember that the price of those CAT 200 (discounted to 150) have been around forever. Prices of houses have moved up; cigarettes have moved up etc. But the price of a high cat girl still has not moved up. There were those Malaysians who served many a brothers here and now I am sure you can still see some of them in Pertain Road, serving the bangalahs.

PRCs are still the same. In the last ten years, prices have instead of gone up, have remained stagnant.

Let's consider the different scenarios here:
For WLs working in the brothels, they think they can make $100k or even $200k while they are here. Multiply that by 5 times, that is close to 500k to 1 Million RMB. Quite a princely sum; however, with inflation that has been around in PRC, the buying power can only go down. It will not last them a lifetime even though most of them think it will. Ok, some will not think that it will last them a lifetime but enuff capital to start a small business. But here is some food for thought, 90% of the businesses fail within the first 3 years of business; which means many of these WL's will be back to square one after 3 years!

Unless they have purchased real estate, gold or silver the last 5 years, they would have seen an erosion of buying power. So really, what is 100k anyway? Some brothers here spend that much bonking women in 6 months or less. I definitely do; and I am not a big spender by their standards.



Moral of the story: Fast money still cannot save. And many of these PRC WL/FLs are the same.

[Nato17]

absolutely true. what you've written.
in the end sob stories aside, many of them had the choice between this line and another lower paying one, in a factory somewhere.

it's just how much they're willing to give up to get where they want as soon as they can.

Good analogy. However, here is something that I will try to put back to you. You can try go get to where they want as soon as they can; however, if the road is all backed up, they have sacrificed a lot for nothing. And right now, the road is all backed up.

[kryptonite123]

Here is what I do not understand. I have played and sowed my wild oats and each time still I get hurt. It isn't about the money, I mean, I can still bring to the table or rather a firepower of 20k a month, but that does mean that they will break the cycle at least that is my feeling most of the time.

Bro Nato17,

If you can "bring to the table 20k a month", why are you investing emotionally so much in WLs? You sound like a rather well-accomplished person who should be in a normal relationship with a quality girl. The WLs are (should be) there to satisfy your desire for some variety from time to time, and nothing more.


Honestly, any FL/WL/ML regardless of what nationality, religion, culture, mindset, body, mind and soul, they have set a boundary. Their strictest rule is, NEVER EVER FALLING IN LOVE WITH THEIR CLIENT/CUSTOMER. Even if we are to pretend some white knight in shining armor or white horse prince, these women in this flesh trade have devoted themselves for being a materialistic and realistic species which refrained themselves from falling in love, being in love or having develop feeling for opposite sex (whore monger )

But the exception is, when the right time has come, she will either quit or settle down. What matter to us (monger, cheongster, white knight or hero you name it), we are only perceived as a consumer who willing to buy a product that we deem as a tool that satisfy our lust. The tool, usually the FL/WL/ML are always condemned by men despite we men pay them to give us GFE, passionate feeling and enslave them to fulfill our fantasy with money during the course. However, falling in love is a nature of human being. Who say's whore can't or never falling in love? Should anyone of us in SBF lucky enough to be chosen as the lover of a particular whore, you better start digging 2 graves.


This is great post in my opinion. If a woman gets to know a man via him patronising her for sex, such a relationship is doomed to go downhill from the onset. From the WL's viewpoint, she is bound to think, "I'm just one of the many women in his life, not the first and definitely not the last." Trust and fear of commitment (due to fear of getting hurt emotionally) are two huge problems; you can't construct a normal and healthy relationship with these two lacking.

[stfatt]

Wls/Fls be it what nationality they are. they are not for lovables only for fuckables. some of them had great acting skills, i dare to say even our mediacorp artistes loses to them. think next time mediacorps can consider hiring them. they can cry and laugh whenever they need to just to let you fall into thier trap.

[ronn80]

Good discussion here.
I myself is stuck in a puddle of shit too. I have not invested too much in the girl for now. Just that looking for her more often then not. Though i never go for FJ i still pay her some money. I pay her money just to have a meal with me.
But what i find is enjoyment when i am with her. Quite a mixed up feeling. I can easily afford to move over to her homeland. Buy a house and live happily ever after? I am still unsure of that. I ever did offer her a handsome sum every month so she can stop working. But refused straight away. She herself didn't want to go into a relationship that fast. Seems like she has also been hurt before.
Many girls come here in the hope of finding better life the easy way out. But the truth is normally hurting. Before they start to earn money, they get cheated by the agents. They brush with the law. Many losing a lot of borrowed money.
The girl who is with me now is in this kind of situation. Came here to work in a massage palour but instead her WP was revoked after only 2 months. Now she is trying to earn as much money as she can before being send back to her country. I don't think she has a choice too.
I do not consider myself very successful. Just that i can afford to live in comfort. Have some extra cash which i can afford to spurgle on whatever i like.
Now i am just letting time tell. To see if things will work out the way which i want. Maybe can follow the girl back home and look see at the situation then from there decide what to do. Am keeping my mind and eyes open.

[Nato17]

Bro Nato17,

If you can "bring to the table 20k a month", why are you investing emotionally so much in WLs? You sound like a rather well-accomplished person who should be in a normal relationship with a quality girl. The WLs are (should be) there to satisfy your desire for some variety from time to time, and nothing more.


Hahaha. Bring money to the table is one issue. Problem I think I have is that we have had too many fucks with PRC women; and we cannot just seem to get out of it.

[ronn80]

Hahaha. Bring money to the table is one issue. Problem I think I have is that we have had too many fucks with PRC women; and we cannot just seem to get out of it.

It's just like a passing shower. After the rain there will be sunshine again. Many a time, it is ourselves who are reluctant to get out of whatever we gotten ourselves in.
Some choose to believe that something will work out. I am not trying to say nothing good will come out of this kind of relationship. I myself have friends who have wife who used to be FL/WL. They have proved relationship do work out when both parties are truthful and sincere.
But i have more examples where my friends are hurt badly, be it financially or emotionally. End of the day, it is the outcome we are looking at.

If the girl is just out to suck your money dry, then nothing can change the fact that once you have no more money, no more honey will be available. But if the girl think that you are the right person to settle down with, and that you are able to provide her with a future, i will place my last penny that the relationship will work. That is provided both parties are looking to settle down.

Girls come here to look for a better living. Throughout all these years of chionging, i myself have to admit seeing all kinds of girls. I have also come to realise the power of money. When i was doing very well in my business, i had no shortage of friends and girls. And when i had a huge setback few years ago, all these friends and girls were nowhere to be found. I was like a plague. Most of these people avoided me.

Sometimes before plunging into relationship head in, i suggest maybe one can have a cooling off period. Take time off and think about the next step. There are many things to consider and think about. The problems which will be faced in future. Ultimately the choice is yours, make a decision and move on. But always do some homework before you make any.

Just my 2 cents worth of thoughts.

[kryptonite123]

Hahaha. Bring money to the table is one issue. Problem I think I have is that we have had too many fucks with PRC women; and we cannot just seem to get out of it.


Ever asked yourself why you cannot seem to get out of it?

[lovetogive]

If only I uv a firepower of 20k a month, My current situation would be different. But mine is only 2k a month, excluding some occasional gifts. My current GF works in KTV and am seeing her 2 - 3 times a week and hv been together for close to 2 years. As we met in this type of places, she will alway have the thinking that we patronize these places to get fxxk, and we think they out there for quick bucks. Mutual suspect ion is very tiring and we just can't seems to get out of this situation. She can easily made a minimum of 6-12k a month and have friends of her calibre making 20-30k a month. She knows I can't give her much, not evening bringing her out for a decent meal. We hv coffee shop food and check into cheap hotels. I can't offer her marriage or any resources to help her stay in Singapore.
Not only that, I became possessive and tried to control her. Trust this is hurting her and I'm thinking of leaving her and let her fulfill her dreams with the money she can made and be happy.
recently, I have to further tighten my belt and can't even afford the 2k. She mentioned I don't have to give her money, but Man's ego too strong and I still demand to know where she goes and report when reached home.
Trust my only option is to leave her alone and any bros out there can give me advice how to forget about her. I tried a few times, but when drunk will contact her and she will oblige and rush to me, even while at work. Trust I have to stay firm this time.

[ronn80]

If only I uv a firepower of 20k a month, My current situation would be different. But mine is only 2k a month, excluding some occasional gifts. My current GF works in KTV and am seeing her 2 - 3 times a week and hv been together for close to 2 years. As we met in this type of places, she will alway have the thinking that we patronize these places to get fxxk, and we think they out there for quick bucks. Mutual suspect ion is very tiring and we just can't seems to get out of this situation. She can easily made a minimum of 6-12k a month and have friends of her calibre making 20-30k a month. She knows I can't give her much, not evening bringing her out for a decent meal. We hv coffee shop food and check into cheap hotels. I can't offer her marriage or any resources to help her stay in Singapore.
Not only that, I became possessive and tried to control her. Trust this is hurting her and I'm thinking of leaving her and let her fulfill her dreams with the money she can made and be happy.
recently, I have to further tighten my belt and can't even afford the 2k. She mentioned I don't have to give her money, but Man's ego too strong and I still demand to know where she goes and report when reached home.
Trust my only option is to leave her alone and any bros out there can give me advice how to forget about her. I tried a few times, but when drunk will contact her and she will oblige and rush to me, even while at work. Trust I have to stay firm this time.

If and only if bro.
Sometimes it all seems within control. But so near yet so far. My situation is complete opposite of yours. I already put the dough on the table. But am asked to wait while she confirms her feelings. As things are happenning too fast. Sometimes there are instances where money will not work all the time.

[thomastankuku]

Bros , got money to throw also throw rite direction and hong proper quality cha bor ma!

U only want to pay for whores you pay expensive so wat? In the end nothing to proud about and only the hooker one corner tao cheo!

If You can only hong these kways then u make sure you know wat u pay for. It is not normal r/s hor!

Also hor if you cannot stop mean its like addict pblm liao. you pour $$$ after drugs is same one. In the end you own self suffer only so refer to doc early smarter la.

[ChaiTao]

If only I uv a firepower of 20k a month, My current situation would be different. But mine is only 2k a month, excluding some occasional gifts. My current GF works in KTV and am seeing her 2 - 3 times a week and hv been together for close to 2 years. As we met in this type of places, she will alway have the thinking that we patronize these places to get fxxk, and we think they out there for quick bucks. Mutual suspect ion is very tiring and we just can't seems to get out of this situation. She can easily made a minimum of 6-12k a month and have friends of her calibre making 20-30k a month. She knows I can't give her much, not evening bringing her out for a decent meal. We hv coffee shop food and check into cheap hotels. I can't offer her marriage or any resources to help her stay in Singapore.
Not only that, I became possessive and tried to control her. Trust this is hurting her and I'm thinking of leaving her and let her fulfill her dreams with the money she can made and be happy.
recently, I have to further tighten my belt and can't even afford the 2k. She mentioned I don't have to give her money, but Man's ego too strong and I still demand to know where she goes and report when reached home.
Trust my only option is to leave her alone and any bros out there can give me advice how to forget about her. I tried a few times, but when drunk will contact her and she will oblige and rush to me, even while at work. Trust I have to stay firm this time.

Bro,been thru tis shit too,trust is ALWAYS an issue,ONLY YOU yourself can get out of this shit!Trust me no one can help you.Sometimes its better to 放手 than to 折磨 yourself and her,LET HER GO....and keep the sweet memories in your heart!For myself initially i tot i cant but still did it!U must be STRONG!
1.No contact(no call n sms)
2.if she call or sms you must CONTROL(dun reply or answer her call)
3.Dun ever meet up wif her again(if meet up sure cannot tahan )
Tat's what i did i know it's easier said than done but it's the only way hard way out for me!!!

[spermswimmer]

thanks all bros here for your sharing experiences. i am also kenna...

this is a good thread, i am subscribing here :o

[sammyboyfor]

My current situation would be different. But mine is only 2k a month, excluding some occasional gifts.

You're a real moron!:rolleyes:

If, instead of wasting your money on a two-bit whore, you invested $2000 per month in a fund that returns just 5% per annum, you'd be a millionaire in 20 years time!!!!

To be exact, you'd be worth $1,015,072.75.

You can work it out for yourself at http://www.sorted.org.nz/calculators/regular-savings/

[ronn80]

Money buy you honey. Like the book goes....No money no honey.
Think twice my friends.

[paul^bibi^baby]

Money is not everything, but in this instance, money can make all the WL in the world fall in love and bonk with you !

They can give you a lot of reasons saying they are just doing it for work/$$ with customer or don't have feelings with customer, but in the end still sleep with him what ?

Infront of you she will call you honey, but infront of everyone you are just another customer !

Have money have honey, bo money bo NI NI !!!

[newbieboy]

always hear about people saying cheongsters they fall for FLs... but once upon a time, when they first arrived, many were naive and innocent, many got burnt by senior cheongsters who've been in this game long enough. empty promises over smses, promise to BY if stop working but demand she break contact with all her clients, end up never pay or pay half, or cut off immediately when quarrel. over time, they get scarred, their hearts also harden (as ours would when we learn the same lessons). everytime got new girl we call for "first blood". why? because first blood means we get to leave a deeper impression to a new girl. i see many new imports to HFJs, always kena cheated and fucked within 1st week by some sweet words or a few hundred dollars flowers. my kakis boast about their conquests, this nubile 20 year old, that 18 year old virgin, how these women ask every night to stay over, cook and clean for them, while they go outside and fish some more pussies. no need maintenance money, no need to buy gifts. got show also no need to hang flowers. over time, i'm very sure these girls will learn from their mistakes, and start to look out for their own interests.

sure, they're here for your money like you're here for their pussy. but once upon a time, before they were hurt and cheated, they believed in love too. thats why so many take your hard-earned money and splurge it at ya changs.

i've been in this game too long and seen too many things. so far i've never fallen in love with any FL. attracted? of course. but i think many cheongsters didn't play the dating/relationship game when they were younger to be emotionally stable enough to withstand their charms. everytime they try to cal me laogong, qingaide, my hairs bristle and i say please stop. i don't indulge myself in fantasies like that. once they lull you into believing you can have a normal relationship with them, you're dead.

that said, i'm in "happy friendships" with 4 right now. 2 FLs and 2 KTV girls. i stay in contact with some of the ex-top FLs from FL2. they are friends. i visit them when i go over to china. and before boss calls me stupid, i never paid above market rate. sure, i tipped them over their prices, but that's small money and shows appreciation for good service. they never asked me for money, never lied to me about hospital fees school fees etc. i think we became friends because very few cheongsters actually sincerely listen to their stories. eitherway, whether you believe their stories or not, you decided too hastily.

always believed in nurture over nature. their circumstances and the way they've been treated made them who they are. but at the end of the day, they are just like you and i, looking for comfort and security. companionship and friendship. but be realistic, if you're very ugly, or your dick is very small, or you're very poor, you better have a good idea what they like about you. and please think carefully when they say they like your "heart". ask yourself, my heart really so good meh? if you can identify something plausible that keeps them attracted to you, you can master any relationship. but if you let your ego blind you, the blinding light from your ego will attract the golddiggers like horny men to sweet pussies.

[ronn80]

Hey bro newbieboy good post. Hopefully bros out there can wise up and think with their big head instead of the small head.

[drekman]

I will not even tip them. Imagine how many guys have they fucked. Espescially cheena girls. They are only for ur money. If u are not at home, dunt u think they will not go out and fuck other guys ?

[justl00king]

The FL/WL job is to be bonked by ANY man for $$$.

You want to fall in love with them? Better think again...;)

[kysh]

FL is for us to practice and improve our love making skill only.

Never ever fall in love with a working lady especially a PRC WL/FL. A few years later, you will feel like an idiot when you think about 为什么你曾经爱她爱到死去活来.

[jj_jj]

PRC mentality now is "笑穷不笑娼" - pardon my literal translation - "laugh at the poor but not at the WL". To them being poor is the pits, even being a WL is better, in financial terms. This was what a PRC guy told me.

Like many bros who have spoken, best is treat each session as pure money transaction for services rendered. While i don't doubt true love exists, what's the odds in these lines of work?? Very poor odds..

[newbieboy]

Hey bro newbieboy good post. Hopefully bros out there can wise up and think with their big head instead of the small head.

thanks for the up i'll return next time, used up today's already. coffee sounds good, lets talk over PM, and see if we can't bring it to somewhere fun :D