Marry PRC

[Beem]

can some bro enlighten
register marry in Sin City or China

got one big hurdle, so far never tell true age cos she against my age group but i manage to con with some younger than real age look:D

when register , will real age be exposed?
-----------------------

second, she want a house in China
understand Poperty purchase by foreigner complicated

if buy through her...
saw some price minimum at 250,000 RMB (~50k)
wish i strike toto;)

how about rental
saw quite affordable at 500-800 RMB...

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Bros,
any advice?
Thanks

[jameschong1]

when register , will real age be exposed?
-----------------------
if buy through her...
saw some price minimum at 250,000 RMB (~50k)
wish i strike toto;)

how about rental
saw quite affordable at 500-800 RMB...
any advice?
Thanks
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when u marry her, not only your age is exposed, even your real sex power, length of your kiki bird will also be exposed lah!

since u have sex or $$$ power, why don't u rent a wife i.e short time with PRC prostitute. this way u save, no commitment and your rweal age not exposed

[teebs_darklord]

Marry, of course marry in Singapore, why marry in PRC unless you want to move over there? Obviously when you register your marriage, your real age will be revealed.

RMB250K for a house??? That's cheap if it's in the city. Even in Fuzhou, houses there are already around RMB1 mil in the city...:p Rental for a whole house for RMB 500 - RMB 800??? Which location?:D

[alan0338]

congratulations, TS going to get married liao :D

[sta1100]

Even you marry you won't know the actual age unless she is below 30, anything above that the birth cert is is not correct, is more than wat ypu see.
As for buying a house in PRC, not easy for foreigner, the only way is for a local to buy and again you trust her, she won;t tell you her own age what make you think you can trust her with the house you pay for but under her name, better to rent anything goes wrong ask her to FO you won;t lose big time. Better not to ROM in SIN as you know all your $$$ in your name half will go to her.

can some bro enlighten
register marry in Sin City or China

got one big hurdle, so far never tell true age cos she against my age group but i manage to con with some younger than real age look:D

when register , will real age be exposed?
-----------------------

second, she want a house in China
understand Poperty purchase by foreigner complicated

if buy through her...
saw some price minimum at 250,000 RMB (~50k)
wish i strike toto;)

how about rental
saw quite affordable at 500-800 RMB...

----
Bros,
any advice?
Thanks

[angmoguy]

Make up your own mind, don't waste your time asking anyone here.
Its your life, if you screw it up, its your fault, if it works out, congrats.

[Xgenre]

what if HER REAL AGE is exposed when you finally marries her? Will you mind? :D

[jameschong1]

what if HER REAL AGE is exposed when you finally marries her? Will you mind? :D
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or her real past marrisage is exposed, will u mind?
eg. divorced 3 times in China? can u take it?
or abortion 2 times, can u take it?

[see see only]

what if HER REAL AGE is exposed when you finally marries her? Will you mind?

Wowowo ... how about this ... :D

What if her real gender is exposed ... will you mind :rolleyes:


A marriage with lies on the most basic facts ... wow TS ... sincerely me reckon you think twice, let her know the truth first :)

[Beem]

hi there
thanks for the comment

Guess Xgenre is right; but that probably spell the end of the r/s
funny how a girl can believe you are young but once get to know the real age will behave differently;

what happen to feeling and chemistry when with each other
and the fact that i do not look that age?
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as for others
intimacy have been cleared lah:p

sigh....end of a potential beautiful r/s
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over the phone i cant really catch what was being said
somthing like if there is a house in China, she can stay there if she find Sin City not tolerable but then if that is the case, what's the point of marriage, not that the marriage will materialise anyway

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i was jus hoping the love grown over time can overcome the age issue
fat hope huh?:(

[Nato17]

If you are looking at purchasing a place in PRC; message me. Purchased a few units before. :) Can show you the ropes.

[Beem]

ok truth be told,
anyway to salvage the situation?

as for F&F,
longing for love leh...

[wala]

Actually, you can check a person's age and marital status, simple detail information like DOB, Address, Married or Single, but you need the person's ID card number or passport number. Cost is not expensive, just go thru a PI in China can get it done.

[Beem]

it break my heart
she say if i cannot follow her parent's wishes to buy house in her hometown;
she got no choice but to find any other to settle down
i knew she would marry me if i would satisfy her parent's condition

it's just that i dont want to marry based on not love but on "house"??
and the house dont come cheap and easy... 80k SGD...where to cough up this money even if i would like to appease her parents..:(

i told her i would reply her tomorrow
although i pose her the converse question; without the house, she will not marry me (somehow she say somthing like she got no choice..) but really isn't it her choice if she really like me?:confused:

one correction is she do not know MY age:p
she got the idea i was 9 yrs her senior
yet when suggest 12 yrs her senior she sound shock
even though the real gap is even more

think in the end, the age gap may not see through the r/s
might as well use the "house " issue to stop further embarresment and heartache....

sigh
it's so hard to find a true r/s where only feelings are the only thing that matter?
SAD

[Bally]

Cheer up bro. If it is the house issue for her to marry you then I would suggest you to think again.

[Boro]

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when u marry her, not only your age is exposed, even your real sex power, length of your kiki bird will also be exposed lah!




hehehe ................ thats a good one Bro James

[Boro]

Rental for a whole house for RMB 500 - RMB 800??? Which location?:D

For RMB800 you could only rent a room in most of the city in China.

[Boro]

Bro ask her this question .................

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUAHGmNDVu8

[Ken79]

Bro you better think twice but first tell her your age.

In China if you want to marry a woman, having a house is a must.
Most normal 3rm + 1 living rm condos in a city is 0.5-1mil rmb depending on the type and location.
It can be lower or higher. But 150-200k sgd will get you a relatively up scale condo with 3-4 bedrooms in a newer district of the city you choose.

Next you need to give her parents a dowry which is also a must, in the older days they expect gold and electrical appliances, now they want cold hard cash.
Be prepared to part with 5-20k sgd.
On top of that also a monthly pocket money for their parents.

End of the day i can say is that unless you are dead serious and also willing to settle in china and take care of her parents or alternatively she willing to settle long term here (provided u got own house here) if not its not likely to work out long term considering that 'face' is very important in china.

[wells]

alamak she want the house only? If cannot afford then dun marry. She should know where you stand at the level.

[Beem]

Bro you better think twice but first tell her your age.

In China if you want to marry a woman, having a house is a must.
Most normal 3rm + 1 living rm condos in a city is 0.5-1mil rmb depending on the type and location.
It can be lower or higher. But 150-200k sgd will get you a relatively up scale condo with 3-4 bedrooms in a newer district of the city you choose.

Next you need to give her parents a dowry which is also a must, in the older days they expect gold and electrical appliances, now they want cold hard cash.
Be prepared to part with 5-20k sgd.
On top of that also a monthly pocket money for their parents.

End of the day i can say is that unless you are dead serious and also willing to settle in china and take care of her parents or alternatively she willing to settle long term here (provided u got own house here) if not its not likely to work out long term considering that 'face' is very important in china.

but i am not staying in China...anyway owning a house in China seemed complicated and ex
seem like only rich people can marry PRC?
1 time 10k dowry should be ok but monthly allowance
thought average pay of PRC worker only 2000 RMB
so what is the quantum for the allowance?

& thought they got a son?
as for house here; HDB should not be an issue?

[johndoe8808]

but i am not staying in China...anyway owning a house in China seemed complicated and ex
seem like only rich people can marry PRC?
1 time 10k dowry should be ok but monthly allowance
thought average pay of PRC worker only 2000 RMB
so what is the quantum for the allowance?

& thought they got a son?
as for house here; HDB should not be an issue?

dun think so hard lah.
if house is the primary condition.
better think twice and move on.

esp. when she can move on anytime.
next time got bigger fish, she sure move on.
(what if parents then say must have 2 houses!)

[Boro]

Agreed with what Bro John said.

One more thing is that you must be prepare Pay and Pay

[Beem]

sigh...

insist on skipping the house issue and instead ask her to persuade her parents otherwise...
the end result, she say forget about it and be friend instead
i say cannot be friends cause it hurts...

...

[golden arrow]

sigh...

insist on skipping the house issue and instead ask her to persuade her parents otherwise...
the end result, she say forget about it and be friend instead
i say cannot be friends cause it hurts...

...

My good Bro!

PLEASE FORGET IT and move on!

This issue is getting you no where!

[Nato17]

sigh...

insist on skipping the house issue and instead ask her to persuade her parents otherwise...
the end result, she say forget about it and be friend instead
i say cannot be friends cause it hurts...

...

Dude, when I was first starting out in life, I was deeply in love with a PRC gal. Same thing. I asked for only 5 months back then and she said the same thing. I guess they must have gone to the same school back then. But jokes asides, I empathize with you. Seriously I do.

[Beem]

Dude, when I was first starting out in life, I was deeply in love with a PRC gal. Same thing. I asked for only 5 months back then and she said the same thing. I guess they must have gone to the same school back then. But jokes asides, I empathize with you. Seriously I do.

thanks
may i ask what is "I asked for only 5 months back then"?

she kept saying if i live in China, there wont be such request from her parent;
all the more i am puzzled...

[K9696]

can some bro enlighten
register marry in Sin City or China

got one big hurdle, so far never tell true age cos she against my age group but i manage to con with some younger than real age look:D

when register , will real age be exposed?
-----------------------

second, she want a house in China
understand Poperty purchase by foreigner complicated

if buy through her...
saw some price minimum at 250,000 RMB (~50k)
wish i strike toto;)

how about rental
saw quite affordable at 500-800 RMB...

----
Bros,
any advice?
Thanks

Hello bro..

Your signatory said.. U onli live once... go.. go ..go..

1. Have u seen her in real person?
2. Have u been to her home town?
3. How long have u know her?
4. How much do you know her family cum background?
5. Are you willing to give up a FOREST just becos of 1 Tree?
6. Are you having a good and stable income that could sustain you thru
some hard times? This is because her family may need your finanically
supports..etc
I cannot think of any more.. maybe you have already on your mind..

Probably you do self check first before posting to the forum to ask for opinion.

When the going get tough, the tough get going........:D
No matter what is your decision, do not lie to yourself.

[Beem]

Hello bro..

Your signatory said.. U onli live once... go.. go ..go..

1. Have u seen her in real person?
2. Have u been to her home town?
3. How long have u know her?
4. How much do you know her family cum background?
5. Are you willing to give up a FOREST just becos of 1 Tree?
6. Are you having a good and stable income that could sustain you thru
some hard times? This is because her family may need your finanically
supports..etc
I cannot think of any more.. maybe you have already on your mind..

Probably you do self check first before posting to the forum to ask for opinion.

When the going get tough, the tough get going........:D
No matter what is your decision, do not lie to yourself.

self check fail thats why pose to forum to gather wisdom...;)
love dont come easy...
if i were only more bankable...
just read China self made billionaires under 40s.. sigh

[RealEstateGuy]

it break my heart
she say if i cannot follow her parent's wishes to buy house in her hometown;
she got no choice but to find any other to settle down
i knew she would marry me if i would satisfy her parent's condition

it's just that i dont want to marry based on not love but on "house"??
and the house dont come cheap and easy... 80k SGD...where to cough up this money even if i would like to appease her parents..:(

i told her i would reply her tomorrow
although i pose her the converse question; without the house, she will not marry me (somehow she say somthing like she got no choice..) but really isn't it her choice if she really like me?:confused:

one correction is she do not know MY age:p
she got the idea i was 9 yrs her senior
yet when suggest 12 yrs her senior she sound shock
even though the real gap is even more

think in the end, the age gap may not see through the r/s
might as well use the "house " issue to stop further embarresment and heartache....

sigh
it's so hard to find a true r/s where only feelings are the only thing that matter?
SAD

Brother, you are at least 12 years older than her yet you cannot afford a house and money to satisfy her parents. There are other men she might know who can meet her requirements and are probably younger. When they come around or when she finds them you might be an afterhought. I think you are better off marrying a local SG girl your own age.

[Beem]

yup
reality bites

she told me many match making by parents whose the other party parent will buy house
(In Singapore i also can abeit with CPF)

my question is actually to see if she will for love ignore the material part of the r/s
i do not wish to build a r/s based on the availability of a house.
you can called me a idealist but love shouldn't it be about feeling for each other?
plain and simple

[Beem]

it was a fruitful year though:)
just that sweet dreams doesn't last

in the modern world and China now,
Love is mixed with the smell of money....

[abchow]

HI Beem,

Time to move on. If the love is measured by how big and expensive the house or material stuff.. then if some tycoon come along, u will be more heart broken by then. Time to cut the lost and re-acquire another target.

Most Girls are too materalistic to realise the good point in a man. So since she does not appreciate u , then u can bid her bye bye , its her lost!!

Cheers!!

[K9696]

self check fail thats why pose to forum to gather wisdom...;)
love dont come easy...
if i were only more bankable...
just read China self made billionaires under 40s.. sigh

dun compare other made billionaires under 40s, u just do what u nid to do..
god is fair..

I post this song for you....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p50l90jxPL4

[SHalone]

but i am not staying in China...anyway owning a house in China seemed complicated and ex
seem like only rich people can marry PRC?
1 time 10k dowry should be ok but monthly allowance
thought average pay of PRC worker only 2000 RMB
so what is the quantum for the allowance?

& thought they got a son?
as for house here; HDB should not be an issue?

Buying a house in china is not complicated, as long u are paying full cash without loan.
If u marry a PRC with influence parents who are well connected then u hor seh.. Can use their connection to do business.
But if her parents are some poor farmers u marry her is like as thou u married the entire family clan.
There are alot of cash rich people in china and I am sure she is not kidding she could easily get someone from the village that can pay full cash for the house. As u said this is not your league to play in then find a field u are comfortable. Stay in nice HDB in Singapore, better environment and I am sure there will be nice pRC looking to lead a Singapore life with u. Please don't decide lightly to come over here, not every one can make it. It's a tough environment thou the opportunities are heaps..

[Aniuge]

Hi TS,

Imho, she weighs a house heavier than you. Beside, she may use your real age as a pretext to part with you when she finds out.

Think thrice before u act.:)

[RealEstateGuy]

Brother, I have heard of a case where a guy buys a house in preparation for marraige and provided dowry in preparation for marriage then a year later the girl calls it off and is gone with the goods. Was also an SG uncle young PRC thing type of situation. I think you should see reality and invest in your own real estate here locally. If a woman loves you it shouldn't matter how big your house is or if you rent an apartment in perpetuity. Of course this conflicts with modern economic reality in SG but the prinicpal still holds in that wedlock should not be conditional on money if the foundation of your union is based on love and compatibility.

[justbob]

I would say, call it off in your heart but keep her tied up to you for as long as you are getting action. You lose nothing really because she is like most PRC girls. Many guys there for her to choose.

I don't believe most PRC girls who get married demand house and parents dowry because half people there still very poor. Someone please correct me if I am wrong and tell me that is the normal practice.

I don't mean to sound rude, but you sound vulnerable and easy target for smart prc girls.

Like others said, it will be a better life for you if you find SG woman to grow old with.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

TS, remember this:

PRCs - 对她们太好。就是对自己下毒手 :D :p

[wonder81]

TS,

Only decide if you have really visited her in China, most of PRCs in Sg are only looking for Big Fish (大款爷). Once you promise her anything, that will be end of your $$$$. They are born actresses.No doubt its the trend in China for the male to buy house for marriage, some big cities the girl's family even request for a car and so on.... Take note.. there is this law in China call 婚前财产，婚后财产..dun fall for the trap..anything bought before the marriage under her name is her asset...this is what most PRC CHICKS are doing! think twice or thrice... even village girls are clever than city girls nowadays..cos they have been through bad times but farmers nowadays are damn rich..so they will 狮子大开口！Anyway as
long as foreigners to them are rich people..so they will squeeze you till dry...
I have been through and luckily I am out of the terrible state now...
Good luck to you ! Cheers!

[sifatt]

bro,

better think twice. experience tell you that all this PRC woman want singaporean lover to buy them a house first, telling stories like yours to please her parent, made her feel secure or something to hold on and likely also want you to commit so that you cant run away from her. all this is pressure testing. I can tell you honestly age is not a matter but to them vitamin is her most important issue. Good luck and my best wishes !!!

[golden arrow]

it was a fruitful year though:)
just that sweet dreams doesn't last

in the modern world and China now,
Love is mixed with the smell of money....

Bro Beem, it's a great relieve to see you are still in one whole piece after all this ordeal.

Move on Bro Beem :)

[FromBoy2Man]

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or her real past marrisage is exposed, will u mind?
eg. divorced 3 times in China? can u take it?
or abortion 2 times, can u take it?

huh so, any different if co-habitate 3 time,
or break out with boyfriend 3 time,
or taking "medication" 2 times when after shooting inside 2 times?

maybe i think just that one is black n white, the other one is dark secret.... i cant see any differences...:rolleyes:

[cognacrex]

Bro,
Congrat to letting go.

PRC will alway ask for house.
Excuse this and that, They say it is their support in case we leave them(Divorce we still need to pay what). Parent want u to buy for me before marriage(No Buy no nid marry ar, If yes forget it! Dun Push!). It is my dream to own a house here(who dunwan dream to have a house if never buy before).

Ask them this question, if we buy house and yet we are not staying in china, what are we going to do with the house? Rent Out with that little rental?
We will be buying hse in Singapore to fulfill your dreamhome, it also has your name on it. Rental yield still higher if we rent out even a room.

PAP!!!!!!
Yes, It is a never ending issue if we tie up with a PRC marriage.
If you are wealthy enough earning a lot then shld be ok. They will have these stupid mentality, all those stupid 3 8 妇女节，7 7 jie, 10 01 GUO qing jie, all these many celebration will suck u dry. If their family members is small in number is okie, u meet those with ten brothers and sisters, u have to spend a lot when u head back for a visit for buying gifts for them.

Then one things u must know is the Angpao u give back to them must not be smaller then the last angpao they give you. And such you must a 555 booklet to remember. If you give back lesser, you will have a lot of negative remark from your In-Law.

Airticket:
Imagine she eng eng say wanna go back to visit, each time average 600sgd excluding the expense mentioned above. What if you have a baby with her and whole family going back 600sgd x 2.5 will be your air tickets. If your parent are invited over to in law celebration=600sgd x4.

Another impt issue:
If future u need her to go out and help contributing to family expense.
1) if you know this girl doing proper sale line. she still have no excuse working back the old line.
2) if your is the KTV or Singer type. You ask her go do sale line, later she ask you let her go work back KTV or Singer, u faint. Ask them work as sales, they say siong. Let them work back old trade, u no worry?

Marriage.
It is a long term commitment! If starting part request this and that knowing you are not earning a lot, u better consider. If you give in, you will have never ending PAP. If you can continue to pay, everything will be going smoothly, if not you will everyday quarrel.
Quarrel no baby the most divorce, if quarrel then got small kids, must think for the small kidS!

But if you find those say nevermind no nid anything, i will give you some money to do biz then grab her tight. LOL.

My conclusion, better find some local girl settled down. She work and you work, both got cpf no need worry about house payment.

Just my tots,

[nacho]

sigh...

insist on skipping the house issue and instead ask her to persuade her parents otherwise...
the end result, she say forget about it and be friend instead
i say cannot be friends cause it hurts...

...


TS,

Her statement is a summarily or everything that both of your had gone through.

Note my verb "gone" >>> past term >>> finished >>> game over.

My suggestion is to move on and either find a good wife in SG, or some short term ones in PRC (like some brother said here).

Good luck.

[K9696]

TS,

Her statement is a summarily or everything that both of your had gone through.

Note my verb "gone" >>> past term >>> finished >>> game over.

My suggestion is to move on and either find a good wife in SG, or some short term ones in PRC (like some brother said here).

Good luck.

Yeah..bro.. past .. present... future tense... haha:)

[Reoxy]

There are many fishes in the Ocean.

You may not have found the right fish yet.

There many cases of happy and lasting marriages between SG men and PRC women.

There are also many cases of unhappy and short ones.

Nationality has got nothing to do with anything.

You should be frank about almost everything except how much money you have and how many girls you have fucked right from the very beginning.

When the girl accepts you for who you are and not who you want to become, the chance of love conquers all is higher.

[LifeLife]

One senior bro ever advised : To rent a house to keep a prc mistress in China, and you can only have a few days with her per month....Then this has no difference from paying money to maintance a PUBLIC TOILET for public use....

This statment might not be true for all prc, but majority.

[Technic]

Yes Bro TS it is best that you move on.
There are better catch eleswhere

[holein1]

can some bro enlighten
register marry in Sin City or China

got one big hurdle, so far never tell true age cos she against my age group but i manage to con with some younger than real age look:D

when register , will real age be exposed?
-----------------------

second, she want a house in China
understand Poperty purchase by foreigner complicated

if buy through her...
saw some price minimum at 250,000 RMB (~50k)
wish i strike toto;)

how about rental
saw quite affordable at 500-800 RMB...

----
Bros,
any advice?
Thanks

yo bro, my 5cents worth.

1. i don't think age group is that much of a very big issue with chinese girls as compared to their sporean counterparts. if you guys are this far already, i don't think covering up your age is wise, though not necessary bad.

2. house
this is always a very hot topic, like GE. haha. anyway, i will like to share my viewpoint. i think for most of us, to get married, a house is almost a must right? most of us always forget that when we marry in spore also need to buy house wad, right? the ONLY diff is that, in spore, we can use CPF, so we don't feel or consider that much. AND, maybe or perhaps, both are working, so it is not that much of an issue. But, let's not make this house issue a thing which is only exclusive to chinese girls. i don't think it is fair.

as with regards to the purchase of the house, diff provinces and cities in china got slightly diff policies. Even with that, you can always "snake" around, like some of the bros put it here.

3. love
it is really hard to say and comment. let me put it this way. years ago, when i decided to marry a chinese, i have friends who made similar comments like the ones you found in this thread. The thing is this: marry a sporean and you won't have such problems? same la, girls are from the same origin, wadever color, wadever OS, wadever build, they behave like Windows. you know what i mean? the only diff now is that cos being sporeans, we may not be used to the chinese culture (could be other nationalities as well), and therefore we tend to think and analyse a bit more.

i would advise this. spend more time to think about how to build your future wih her.

4. marriage
i think it's more advisable to register in china, though the process is a bit more conmplicated. it is easier to clean up a marriage mess in china than in spore.

Last but not least, i have this advice for you. if you think you can't handle a chinese as a wife (long term) as compared to her on a bed (short term), do like wad most of the bros are doing here. handle them on the bed and forget about it.

personally, my circle of friends are okie with their chinese wives, with the usual hangups you get with sporean wives too, BUT we are happy. how it would turn out depends partially on your own management and fate (of course).

good luck to you bro..

[RealEstateGuy]

Bro,
Congrat to letting go.

PRC will alway ask for house.
Excuse this and that, They say it is their support in case we leave them(Divorce we still need to pay what). Parent want u to buy for me before marriage(No Buy no nid marry ar, If yes forget it! Dun Push!). It is my dream to own a house here(who dunwan dream to have a house if never buy before).

Ask them this question, if we buy house and yet we are not staying in china, what are we going to do with the house? Rent Out with that little rental?
We will be buying hse in Singapore to fulfill your dreamhome, it also has your name on it. Rental yield still higher if we rent out even a room.

PAP!!!!!!
Yes, It is a never ending issue if we tie up with a PRC marriage.
If you are wealthy enough earning a lot then shld be ok. They will have these stupid mentality, all those stupid 3 8 妇女节，7 7 jie, 10 01 GUO qing jie, all these many celebration will suck u dry. If their family members is small in number is okie, u meet those with ten brothers and sisters, u have to spend a lot when u head back for a visit for buying gifts for them.

Then one things u must know is the Angpao u give back to them must not be smaller then the last angpao they give you. And such you must a 555 booklet to remember. If you give back lesser, you will have a lot of negative remark from your In-Law.

Airticket:
Imagine she eng eng say wanna go back to visit, each time average 600sgd excluding the expense mentioned above. What if you have a baby with her and whole family going back 600sgd x 2.5 will be your air tickets. If your parent are invited over to in law celebration=600sgd x4.

Another impt issue:
If future u need her to go out and help contributing to family expense.
1) if you know this girl doing proper sale line. she still have no excuse working back the old line.
2) if your is the KTV or Singer type. You ask her go do sale line, later she ask you let her go work back KTV or Singer, u faint. Ask them work as sales, they say siong. Let them work back old trade, u no worry?

Marriage.
It is a long term commitment! If starting part request this and that knowing you are not earning a lot, u better consider. If you give in, you will have never ending PAP. If you can continue to pay, everything will be going smoothly, if not you will everyday quarrel.
Quarrel no baby the most divorce, if quarrel then got small kids, must think for the small kidS!

But if you find those say nevermind no nid anything, i will give you some money to do biz then grab her tight. LOL.

My conclusion, better find some local girl settled down. She work and you work, both got cpf no need worry about house payment.

Just my tots,

Brother, what most SG brothers don't understand pure and simple is a woman has higher worth in the PRC than in SG due to simple Demand > Supply so she can make what we in SG consider outlandish and unreasonable expectations and requirements. To her it is reasonable and if you don't meet the requirements you are not eligible. In modern SG society, women and men share major expenses for the most part thus we have different requirements.

[Beem]

ok i can understand cultural deviance in expectations

i was thinking using the house as a test point
if she willing to talk her parents out of it, then it is a affirmation of her love (heart) for me.

then the rest will be easier to resolve, like age.

actually it is not i not willing to buy a house abeit a small one;
----------------
the other day went ktv and seek some PRCs' opinion; again split opinions

Dalian: if she love you, she would stay with you; it's bullshit, she just wanna cheat you
Fujian: it's normal, buying her house is some sort of "baozhan" in case things dont work well (same as what my gf say...)
there is "dan sheng gong yu" relatively cheaper at 160,000RMB

[Beem]

so now she say she angry cause i see the house as more important than her...

seem like both of us use this as a test point?:confused:

[golden arrow]

Bro Beem please move on!

She's not for you.
Not that she no good or she's wrong, what she did was something for her own good just as you did too.
And she's in the right mind to do so, just like each and everyone of us!

[Simpleboy]

Sigh, seeing this thread reminds me of the PRC i marry home. Talk until sweet sweet before marriage. Once after marriage almost everyday find trouble. Tell lies every each and single day best part.... kena deported back to china already still continue to tell lies on the phone until lies balloon exploded. All comes clean. Bro, trust me.. PRC which are nice and trustworthy days are long gone. Wake up before its too late.

2 Cents reminder.

Cheers
Simpleboy who got cheated. :(

[sytloverr]

Sigh, seeing this thread reminds me of the PRC i marry home. Talk until sweet sweet before marriage. Once after marriage almost everyday find trouble. Tell lies every each and single day best part.... kena deported back to china already still continue to tell lies on the phone until lies balloon exploded. All comes clean. Bro, trust me.. PRC which are nice and trustworthy days are long gone. Wake up before its too late.

2 Cents reminder.

Cheers
Simpleboy who got cheated. :(

good advice bro. sad to hear how you ended up...

[flowerpot]

so now she say she angry cause i see the house as more important than her...

seem like both of us use this as a test point?:confused:

Bro,

u should be angry in the 1st place, cos she got angry over the house 1st...
So, she is the one who is taking the house more importantly. NOT U!
u should not be afraid of her. She should be afraid of u....

Just tell her your true age, if she cannot accept, than, THATS IT.. THE END

If she accepts, than u can also try buying the cheapest house like rmb150k,
and pay 1st 20-30%. In this case, at least u r doing some damage control.
I believe, be it u buy it with cash or u pay by installment, the house is still under her name. So, just pay the minimum.

Above are just suggestions to do damage control.

End of the day, hope TS will not buy a house there. Its better to buy in SG...

[thomastankuku]

One senior bro ever advised : To rent a house to keep a prc mistress in China, and you can only have a few days with her per month....Then this has no difference from paying money to maintance a PUBLIC TOILET for public use....

This statment might not be true for all prc, but majority.

Hahaha senior bro is very right lor!

To be fair most PRC girl are NOT professional whore so let not think that way. But hor even the non kway kind a lot are SUPER materialilistic thinking so in the end oso sio siang got the hooker super upgrader cum liar n cheat mentality.

Those want to date even the professional PMEB meimei fm ah tiong land also must be careful lar if not sure tio burn liao!

As for those who get involve with those real china WHORE of many name..... hao zhi wei zhi lah!! Marry or keep as xiao er or xiao san more likely going to invite trouble. You rent or buy a house most likely will be OPEN HOUSE liao.

Think properly and mai tio con!

[pdmmlvr]

Bors, below is my experience, I almost lost everything including my life and family because of PRC PDMM!!!

1. AGE - no issues at all, before this PDMM get to know me, she knew > 10 guys, I means these SG man she get money for her living every month, min age different 6 years older than her, some even 15 years older, but no issues at all, only problems is MONEY!!!!! Everytime these guys want to see her (I means fuck her la!), simply just pay and legs will open automatically after seeing $$$$, same applied for me except I paid for monthly payment!!

2. HOUSE - divided into two areas, one in Singapore and one in China, but what is the problems? No problems, again this is = $$$ again. In Singapore, there will be a guy paying for the rental, only kuku will so called "buy" a house! As for China, always plenty of excuse, parent la, instalments la, investment la, bla bla..., but what is the problems again? = $$$, this is to blame SG guys hearts too soft, always give in after full package service, FJ, BBBJ, AR, CIM... song song till brain loose..... then paid, eventually what you know? NO MONEY NO TALK!!!

3. LOVE - This is fucking love you are concerns? Everytime you want love? Want make love? Simple, just flash the dollar notes, then you will get it! anf the serive is first class, you can have it every where! First you pay for rental, rental a house for her to stay, every day you can go there after work, start your love, I means make love, right from the door step, fuck in living hall, kitchen....... where you like it!! Remember hor, you will get standard fuck for normal day, but first class service before or during "pay day"! Standard meaning, just fuck la, NO AR, NO CIM, just take out your bro and insert till you cum! But first class, will right after you step in the house living hall, BBBJ, AR, fingering la, sucking her neh nek la...till you cum in her hole, still got after service........
So again LOVE = $$$

4. MARRIAGE - What is this? This is = PR in Singapore, what does that means?
Oh, simple MARRIAGE = PR, then? Ha, then PR = DIVOCE, humm... then? OK OK, give you the full formula, MARRIAGE = PR = DIVOCE = LOST almost ALL your money!!!


this is my experience to share with bros here, now I lost almost everything!!!!

She already got another sugar husband, no needs marriage cert, just pay your bill promptly monthly, you will get full service, exactually I again realised that all the gals in the advertisment can do the same job at lower investment, they asked for $80 for 90 min, you pay $80 plus tips, only 10 is enough, your next visit service will get extra 10%, if you give $20 tips, gets 20% more, etc....

Hope all bros enjoy!!!

[robin hood]

Bors, below is my experience, I almost lost everything including my life and family because of PRC PDMM!!!

Hope all bros enjoy!!!

Thats a good input Bro pdmmlv.

[Reoxy]

Bors, below is my experience, I almost lost everything including my life and family because of PRC PDMM!!!

Hope all bros enjoy!!!

Bro pdmmlvr,

You still never really describe how you almost lose everything. The brothers here need to learn from your experience so that we do not make the same mistakes.

[pdmmlvr]

Bro pdmmlvr,

You still never really describe how you almost lose everything. The brothers here need to learn from your experience so that we do not make the same mistakes.

Bros, do I need to specify everything? I lost a happy family, I lost almost all my money (i.e. spend on her and given to her), but all of us here are adults, we are playing adult games here, don't blame anybody, when I lost my job because I spent too much time with her, when my birthday, she don't even spend a single cent to buy me a simple meal, from there I realise that I'm completely nuts!!!

Anyway, I'm here to share my experience, this is a fucking good lesson that I l learnt, but remember we all are adult, nothing in this world is free, PRC are whole group of old bird, they know the tricks, FOC fuck at the beginning means "Fuck On Credit", the interest you going to pay is at least 10 times more than loan skark!!!!

Conclusion is Pay as you fuck, no money don't fuck, fuck as you pay!

Sorry don't feel like sharing the whole story, is very typically, the only one to blame is ownself! No true love for PRC, Money = Love

[heineken]

Bro is not worth marrying her as she is after ur money anyway, she want the house for the parent and she say that she will stay there if find Singapore not suitable for her. In this case, don't marry her what the point as you are here and she is at china. By than you visit her, she might already sold the house and gone with another big fish and is easy to change ID in china you know. From what you have mention you are not very well off, keep the money and look for better one.

[Reoxy]

Bros, do I need to specify everything?
Sorry don't feel like sharing the whole story, is very typically, the only one to blame is ownself! No true love for PRC, Money = Love

Bro Pdmmlvr, I apologize for bringing up your old wounds. It was very inconsiderate of me.

Hope that your life will get better and better.

[drekman]

Why singaporean so stupid ? china girls only want your money. They do not care about u You deserve to be bankrupt.

[Schenker]

With the open floodgate of FTs, viets, PRC, pinoys, indians and lately cambodians, more domestic problems to come, more MPS by single singaporean men.

Just watch it...

[batty]

Hi Beem. If you can not stop yourself from marrying your China girl friend because you are really forced into it; keep a secret amount of money from her that she does not know about and she can not get hold of. Good luck.

[Fishcer]

Bro Pdmmlvr, I apologize for bringing up your old wounds. It was very inconsiderate of me.

Hope that your life will get better and better.

Y u nvr wish that my life will get better...:mad:

[Ken79]

TS, it is China culture for guys to buy a house when they want to get married, basically no gal will marry a guy without his own house.
Can't say that its becos prc gals are materialistic but becos everyone is doing just that, only thing is some can settle for normal/smaller house but some bitches just want a grand place to stay.

Other than that a dowry for her parents is a must.
So in conclusion no house, no dowry = no talk in China.
Its only a matter of how much they expect and ask for.

[RealEstateGuy]

TS, it is China culture for guys to buy a house when they want to get married, basically no gal will marry a guy without his own house.
Can't say that its becos prc gals are materialistic but becos everyone is doing just that, only thing is some can settle for normal/smaller house but some bitches just want a grand place to stay.

Other than that a dowry for her parents is a must.
So in conclusion no house, no dowry = no talk in China.
Its only a matter of how much they expect and ask for.

Brother you have to accept that these are normal Chinese woman requirements. Just that in her orbit due to S<D of women they can command this. You think you have high worth being a SG man but in her orbit you are just another man. If you can't deliver what a local Chinese man can, then in her eyes, you have no merit in terms of seeking courtship and marraige with her. In the orbit of SG, the equation is different as S=D among men and women and you need to convince her that is the case.

[pdmmlvr]

Bro is not worth marrying her as she is after ur money anyway, she want the house for the parent and she say that she will stay there if find Singapore not suitable for her. In this case, don't marry her what the point as you are here and she is at china. By than you visit her, she might already sold the house and gone with another big fish and is easy to change ID in china you know. From what you have mention you are not very well off, keep the money and look for better one.

Bros, additional, not only money, also the PR so that they can work and make more money! This is truth story - I even offer 8K + free fuck to "marry" a PRC before!!!

[pdmmlvr]

Why singaporean so stupid ? china girls only want your money. They do not care about u You deserve to be bankrupt.

bros, singaporean not stupid! Singapore man are mostly soft hearted!!!!

[pdmmlvr]

Hi Beem. If you can not stop yourself from marrying your China girl friend because you are really forced into it; keep a secret amount of money from her that she does not know about and she can not get hold of. Good luck.

Sorry bros, i do not agree with you, simply tell the PRC gal you got no money, will not apply PR for her for the first five year, what you have is only truth love, see whether she marrying you? Fucking no way!!!

[oldcabbie]

Sorry bros, i do not agree with you, simply tell the PRC gal you got no money, will not apply PR for her for the first five year, what you have is only truth love, see whether she marrying you? Fucking no way!!!


Bro, other country gals also the same. Of cos there are good one, only whether you can find them or not.

[Bristol City]

Sorry bros, i do not agree with you, simply tell the PRC gal you got no money, will not apply PR for her for the first five year, what you have is only truth love, see whether she marrying you? Fucking no way!!!

Bro you are 100% correct!

[seabeng]

Bros, do I need to specify everything? I lost a happy family, I lost almost all my money (i.e. spend on her and given to her), but all of us here are adults, we are playing adult games here, don't blame anybody, when I lost my job because I spent too much time with her, when my birthday, she don't even spend a single cent to buy me a simple meal, from there I realise that I'm completely nuts!!!

Anyway, I'm here to share my experience, this is a fucking good lesson that I l learnt, but remember we all are adult, nothing in this world is free, PRC are whole group of old bird, they know the tricks, FOC fuck at the beginning means "Fuck On Credit", the interest you going to pay is at least 10 times more than loan skark!!!!

Conclusion is Pay as you fuck, no money don't fuck, fuck as you pay!

Sorry don't feel like sharing the whole story, is very typically, the only one to blame is ownself! No true love for PRC, Money = Love

Bro, I share the same feelings with you. I had the same experience too and is now suffering from a broken family. They are family wrackers but in the end you are right that we have ourselves to blame but I still like screwing them and now is fuck and forget.

[sun814]

One senior bro ever advised : To rent a house to keep a prc mistress in China, and you can only have a few days with her per month....Then this has no difference from paying money to maintance a PUBLIC TOILET for public use....

This statment might not be true for all prc, but majority.

this example applies to anywhere, i guess, example batam.

[sun814]

Sorry bros, i do not agree with you, simply tell the PRC gal you got no money, will not apply PR for her for the first five year, what you have is only truth love, see whether she marrying you? Fucking no way!!!

bro, i marry a PRC for 2 years now, who is older than me by 3 years, she knew from the start that i had little savings. since in the r/s with her, we started saving, and had by now bought a HDB flat, she had even came out with the COV and part of the renovation costs. and till now, i still haven't apply for PR for her, even though her chance is very high due to high income and high educational qualification. i would like to say that there are nice ladies out there, it is up to you to find them.

[Schenker]

bro, i marry a PRC for 2 years now, who is older than me by 3 years, she knew from the start that i had little savings. since in the r/s with her, we started saving, and had by now bought a HDB flat, she had even came out with the COV and part of the renovation costs. and till now, i still haven't apply for PR for her, even though her chance is very high due to high income and high educational qualification. i would like to say that there are nice ladies out there, it is up to you to find them.

So when u intend to apply SPR for her?

U mean yr income/quali is high or her?

Hope u can advise the current situation of the success rate of SPR
application when u decide to apply. Cos the vetting process is more stringent now as compared to the past.

A wise move of u to buy a resale now immediately after marriage. I decide to take a big risk to buy a resale flat when my wife is holding the 6mths LTSVP several years ago. Now decide to sell it off if BTO is successful. Can at least earn 200k profit from my resale sale. :)

[sun814]

So when u intend to apply SPR for her?

U mean yr income/quali is high or her?

Hope u can advise the current situation of the success rate of SPR
application when u decide to apply. Cos the vetting process is more stringent now as compared to the past.

A wise move of u to buy a resale now immediately after marriage. I decide to take a big risk to buy a resale flat when my wife is holding the 6mths LTSVP several years ago. Now decide to sell it off if BTO is successful. Can at least earn 200k profit from my resale sale. :)

i mean my income and educational qualification is high and i intend to apply for SPR this month. hope that she will be able to get it smoothly. for the purchase of flat, yes, that is what we are thinking too.

[Schenker]

i mean my income and educational qualification is high and i intend to apply for SPR this month. hope that she will be able to get it smoothly. for the purchase of flat, yes, that is what we are thinking too.

Hope to hear good news from u soon. Now waiting time is now 6-9 mths of processing. Quite a long wait.

[elcarim]

bro, i marry a PRC for 2 years now, who is older than me by 3 years, she knew from the start that i had little savings. since in the r/s with her, we started saving, and had by now bought a HDB flat, she .

You are a damn Lucky guy Bro Sun!

Its not easy to hit the Jackpot.

[BowBow]

Bros here... I have a query... If my future wife has property registered under her name back in China and after we ROM will we be able to apply for HDB?

[drekman]

Do not marry a cheena girl.

[jameschong1]

Do not marry a cheena girl.

--
u are smart unlike those silly fuckers.
yes die die never never marry a cheena girl!

[holein1]

Bros here... I have a query... If my future wife has property registered under her name back in China and after we ROM will we be able to apply for HDB?

first, i don't think HDB will care. second, don't be silly to tell hdb, right?

[joscklee]

Bros here... I have a query... If my future wife has property registered under her name back in China and after we ROM will we be able to apply for HDB?

Hi Bro,

Pls pardon mi if i kpo. got2 think thrice marrying cheena, likely she ask u pay china house instalment 2, several of my friends kena (no warning before tat)

[BowBow]

Hi Bro,

Pls pardon mi if i kpo. got2 think thrice marrying cheena, likely she ask u pay china house instalment 2, several of my friends kena (no warning before tat)

Actually I have been with my gf for 2.5yrs already, I met her when I having my internship in PRC 3 years ago. Her family live in the city and last year her parents decided to buy another house for her and had been fully paid thru cash. This is so far what i know...

[mrsg]

Hi Bro,

Pls pardon mi if i kpo. got2 think thrice marrying cheena, likely she ask u pay china house instalment 2, several of my friends kena (no warning before tat)



It is ok to marry PRC but need to open eye big big and also marry WL is a straight NO NO. Their mind corrupted liao.

[sun814]

Hope to hear good news from u soon. Now waiting time is now 6-9 mths of processing. Quite a long wait.

just received news of the PR approval, it just took in my case slightly more than 3 months.

[Schenker]

just received news of the PR approval, it just took in my case slightly more than 3 months.

Congrats! :)

[twistedfate]

I would like to share my story abit also...

i am getting married soon with a PRC soon also, known her through my frequent travel working in china.

I also come to understand that having a house it's almost mandatory in china to get married. But lucky for me, now that they came out with a rule of not being able to buy a HDB if you have any pte property or oversea property :o

save me tons of trouble there.

Her parents are also not demanding, only asking for 25 tables in china and nothing else. no need dowary or anything. :)

now currently arranging the weddings preparation. :o

[prccuntlover]

I would like to share my story abit also...

i am getting married soon with a PRC soon also, known her through my frequent travel working in china.

I also come to understand that having a house it's almost mandatory in china to get married. But lucky for me, now that they came out with a rule of not being able to buy a HDB if you have any pte property or oversea property :o

save me tons of trouble there.

Her parents are also not demanding, only asking for 25 tables in china and nothing else. no need dowary or anything. :)

now currently arranging the weddings preparation. :o


God bless:)

[jason32]

I would like to share my story abit also...

i am getting married soon with a PRC soon also, known her through my frequent travel working in china.

I also come to understand that having a house it's almost mandatory in china to get married. But lucky for me, now that they came out with a rule of not being able to buy a HDB if you have any pte property or oversea property :o

save me tons of trouble there.

Her parents are also not demanding, only asking for 25 tables in china and nothing else. no need dowary or anything. :)

now currently arranging the weddings preparation. :o

good luck bro

[RealEstateGuy]

Braddah, congratulations on tying the know with a wonderful Chinese gal. Not all PRC gals are bad people. In fact, would go out and say 98% are fine and would make good wives. Probalem, is the braddahs too exposed to the world of KTV and GL and paid sex and all vices hence stereotype the gals.

[sexrookie]

now that they came out with a rule of not being able to buy a HDB if you have any pte property or oversea property

Any Bros,

Know this answer

How about already own a HDB and fully paid for.

Can we buy a house in China ?

:D

[Xgenre]

How about already own a HDB and fully paid for.

Can we buy a house in China ?

:D

I think the official answer is no. My answer is do anything you want but don't get caught. Recently The Online Citizen reported a case where 2 PRs had a foreign property besides their HDB. When their HDB was en-bloc (sers), HDB didn't give them a replacement flat. HDB only pay them the cost of their original flat. I thought the rule is pretty harsh since the PR didn't actuallly choose to give up their original flat.

[reserves]

I ever thought of marrying a Chinese but monthly income is an issue. As my take home pay is unable to provide a comfortable lifestyle for my Chinese ex-gf if she become housewife on social visit pass will be a burden to me :o

[BowBow]

Hello Bro... I need some advice and pardon me if I had posted on the wrong place... I wish to have my gf to stay with me for a month, but I am not sure how to go about the applying of VISA. Normal VISA valid for 14 days. My friend told me to apply a social visit VISA then extend the VISA. Just wanna to ask any one did tried to apply 1 month VISA since its given an option to apply up for 30 days for social visit ....

My gf had never work or student in SG, she only been in SG twice to visit me ...

Thank You in advance...

[sun814]

why only 14 days. i thought normal vsa is for 30 days as i applied for some of my friends, one even got 2 years multiple trips visa .

[BowBow]

why only 14 days. i thought normal vsa is for 30 days as i applied for some of my friends, one even got 2 years multiple trips visa .

I am quite confusing also... Because the last 2 trips my gf applied the VISA in China, because she lives in city and have job, so quite easy to apply the standard 14 days. i called up the ICA and ask they told me if she wants to stay for 30 days, must have valid reason during the application also... My friend told me to give reason as "preparation for ROM" something like that...

I am thinking of getting ROM next yr ... So wants her to stay in Singapore to adapt life in SG...

[see see only]

I am quite confusing also... Because the last 2 trips my gf applied the VISA in China, because she lives in city and have job, so quite easy to apply the standard 14 days. i called up the ICA and ask they told me if she wants to stay for 30 days, must have valid reason during the application also... My friend told me to give reason as "preparation for ROM" something like that...

I am thinking of getting ROM next yr ... So wants her to stay in Singapore to adapt life in SG...

Bro BB,

Try DIY through ICA website with your singpass, importantly with some advice from some agent could be great ....

As a simple mistake = "NOT APPROVE" or "APPLICATION REJECTED" ;)

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

Hi bros,

I am intending to marry my PRC GF who i have know for 3 year coming next year after i complete my studies.

A few question i would like to consult bros here.


1) Should I marry her in PRC or in SG. Which is easier to obtain the LTVP ?

A) PRC
I understand from bros and my friends working in china is that you need
some under-table $$ to register your marriage over there ? Do i need to apply a tourist visa which has a valid 30 days entry to PRC or do i just use the 14 days visa that is given to us as i heard from some friends u need at least a valid 14 days visa to register your marriage over there ? Any bros have experience on these ?

B) SG
As for to register our marriage in SG I need to apply her an entry visa do i apply under my singpass or can i still apply under her aunt who is also from PRC but already a singaporean (This has been the case for all her visit to SG) ?

2) After obtaining our marriage cert can i go directly to ICA to apply for a LTVP for her to stay in SG. If yes , will it take a long time? As i worry that I need to fly her back to PRC and then back to SG again in case the result come after her visa expiry date.

3) In the very lucky case she is able to obtain her LTVP. Do i still need to apply for her a student pass as she would like to take up some course in SG ?

4) As for the very last question, will it be very difficult for her to obtain a PR based on my stats below. I will only try my luck after her 2nd year in SG.

My stats as below

Salary : 3.5 - 4 K
Yearly income tax : 50K
Working for the past 4 years
Currently working in a local listed company.
Education Level : Degree ( unless fail when applying for the PR i should be a Master )

Thanks Bro for your time in looking at this look message.:)

[max8bonk]

bro very long procedures , first of all u need to book everything for your R.O.M. , use the date to apply for her stay till ceremony via u or the aunt .Do read the ICA and ROM website to get the papers CORRECT AND READY . My advise : marry at the place u want to start your family

[kelvinaili]

Hi bros,

I am intending to marry my PRC GF who i have know for 3 year coming next year after i complete my studies.

A few question i would like to consult bros here.


1) Should I marry her in PRC or in SG. Which is easier to obtain the LTVP ?

A) PRC
I understand from bros and my friends working in china is that you need
some under-table $$ to register your marriage over there ? Do i need to apply a tourist visa which has a valid 30 days entry to PRC or do i just use the 14 days visa that is given to us as i heard from some friends u need at least a valid 14 days visa to register your marriage over there ? Any bros have experience on these ?

B) SG
As for to register our marriage in SG I need to apply her an entry visa do i apply under my singpass or can i still apply under her aunt who is also from PRC but already a singaporean (This has been the case for all her visit to SG) ?

2) After obtaining our marriage cert can i go directly to ICA to apply for a LTVP for her to stay in SG. If yes , will it take a long time? As i worry that I need to fly her back to PRC and then back to SG again in case the result come after her visa expiry date.

3) In the very lucky case she is able to obtain her LTVP. Do i still need to apply for her a student pass as she would like to take up some course in SG ?

4) As for the very last question, will it be very difficult for her to obtain a PR based on my stats below. I will only try my luck after her 2nd year in SG.

My stats as below

Salary : 3.5 - 4 K
Yearly income tax : 50K
Working for the past 4 years
Currently working in a local listed company.
Education Level : Degree ( unless fail when applying for the PR i should be a Master )

Thanks Bro for your time in looking at this look message.:)

Dear Bro

I suggest that you get ROM in singapore. Firstly book a date to register and then apply for visit pass and visa before 2 weeks before actual ROM. Remember to ask your GF to hold on a copy of the online ROM printout when
she came into Singapore as the ICA officers will definately ask her the reason she is here.

You will be the sponsor for applying the visit pass and visa instead of her aunt as this is enable the application for LTVP or even PR easier. Immediately
after your marriage, go down ICA to apply for LTVP. Given your income and qualification should be no problem. Translation of documents to english must be done before submitting to ICA. Recommended to do it in China as it is much cheaper compare to Singapore.

Your wife to be must apply for student pass when she intended to take up course here but case to case basis depending on type of course.

You could try to apply PR after getting LTVP. From the current situation, it seem like it is easier to get one now. Hope all these info could help you.

Cheers:cool:

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

Dear Bro

I suggest that you get ROM in singapore. Firstly book a date to register and then apply for visit pass and visa before 2 weeks before actual ROM. Remember to ask your GF to hold on a copy of the online ROM printout when
she came into Singapore as the ICA officers will definately ask her the reason she is here.

You will be the sponsor for applying the visit pass and visa instead of her aunt as this is enable the application for LTVP or even PR easier. Immediately
after your marriage, go down ICA to apply for LTVP. Given your income and qualification should be no problem. Translation of documents to english must be done before submitting to ICA. Recommended to do it in China as it is much cheaper compare to Singapore.

Your wife to be must apply for student pass when she intended to take up course here but case to case basis depending on type of course.

You could try to apply PR after getting LTVP. From the current situation, it seem like it is easier to get one now. Hope all these info could help you.

Cheers:cool:
Bro kelvinaili,

If i did not get it wrong the steps as follow:

1) book a ROM date in SG.

Then i ask my GF to print out the ROM Document.

2) Apply for her a visa of entry of 30 days

3) After the ROM , Apply a LTVP for her directly with our ROM cert.

4) After getting the LTVP cert apply for PR.
For this i understand that the government is strict on this i know that the chances of her getting PR in one short is diff but i dun mind trying. But just to be on the safe side if i apply too many times will this affect her LTVP chances or future chances of getting PR ?

Thanks bro.

[holein1]

Hi bros,

I am intending to marry my PRC GF who i have know for 3 year coming next year after i complete my studies.

A few question i would like to consult bros here.


1) Should I marry her in PRC or in SG. Which is easier to obtain the LTVP ?

A) PRC
I understand from bros and my friends working in china is that you need
some under-table $$ to register your marriage over there ? Do i need to apply a tourist visa which has a valid 30 days entry to PRC or do i just use the 14 days visa that is given to us as i heard from some friends u need at least a valid 14 days visa to register your marriage over there ? Any bros have experience on these ?

B) SG
As for to register our marriage in SG I need to apply her an entry visa do i apply under my singpass or can i still apply under her aunt who is also from PRC but already a singaporean (This has been the case for all her visit to SG) ?

2) After obtaining our marriage cert can i go directly to ICA to apply for a LTVP for her to stay in SG. If yes , will it take a long time? As i worry that I need to fly her back to PRC and then back to SG again in case the result come after her visa expiry date.

3) In the very lucky case she is able to obtain her LTVP. Do i still need to apply for her a student pass as she would like to take up some course in SG ?

4) As for the very last question, will it be very difficult for her to obtain a PR based on my stats below. I will only try my luck after her 2nd year in SG.

My stats as below

Salary : 3.5 - 4 K
Yearly income tax : 50K
Working for the past 4 years
Currently working in a local listed company.
Education Level : Degree ( unless fail when applying for the PR i should be a Master )

Thanks Bro for your time in looking at this look message.:)

bro, something else for you to consider, in addition to what the rest of the bros here have told you.

1. i dunno whether getting married in sg or chn is easier for her to get LTVP. But i can tell you that the spore marriage law gives her more power than the china one. China marriage law is still more "advantageous" to the guy.

2. you dont need under table money to register your marriage. however, i think maybe there could be some conditions tied to your type of visit to china. however, if the issue is the stay in china, it shouldn't be difficult for you to apply for a longer social visit or a business visit visa to china. if you are really very interested to explore this approach, i can ask my friends who had done it.

cheers and all the best to your marriage!

[holein1]

Any Bros,

Know this answer

How about already own a HDB and fully paid for.

Can we buy a house in China ?

:D

bro, whether you can buy a house in china hugely depends on whether you have the money or not. it's that simple. china, though very luan, don't have stupid FIXED rules like spore.

in china, only scared of one thing - you got no money. got money, almost everything is possible.

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

bro, something else for you to consider, in addition to what the rest of the bros here have told you.

1. i dunno whether getting married in sg or chn is easier for her to get LTVP. But i can tell you that the spore marriage law gives her more power than the china one. China marriage law is still more "advantageous" to the guy.

2. you dont need under table money to register your marriage. however, i think maybe there could be some conditions tied to your type of visit to china. however, if the issue is the stay in china, it shouldn't be difficult for you to apply for a longer social visit or a business visit visa to china. if you are really very interested to explore this approach, i can ask my friends who had done it.

cheers and all the best to your marriage!
Hi bro,

At first i was also thinking in this way meaning the china marriage cert route.

As to me it give me the flexibility of having the marriage cert first . Then i can apply for LTVP then if that approve then i can fetch her from china. Can help me ask your friend on how he handle on this ? Thanks . I understand from my friend is quite easy for the locals to marry just go there take a photo and can get marry liao.

[mrsg]

it break my heart
she say if i cannot follow her parent's wishes to buy house in her hometown;
she got no choice but to find any other to settle down
i knew she would marry me if i would satisfy her parent's condition

it's just that i dont want to marry based on not love but on "house"??
and the house dont come cheap and easy... 80k SGD...where to cough up this money even if i would like to appease her parents..:(

i told her i would reply her tomorrow
although i pose her the converse question; without the house, she will not marry me (somehow she say somthing like she got no choice..) but really isn't it her choice if she really like me?:confused:

one correction is she do not know MY age:p
she got the idea i was 9 yrs her senior
yet when suggest 12 yrs her senior she sound shock
even though the real gap is even more

think in the end, the age gap may not see through the r/s
might as well use the "house " issue to stop further embarresment and heartache....

sigh
it's so hard to find a true r/s where only feelings are the only thing that matter?
SAD

It will not work out. Why? Her intention is already wrong. A hse orelse no marry, so?

[m0747]

Do you have the intention to settle down in her hometown?

If not buy house for fXXK! registerthe house under her name and she can do what she want and kick you fxxk off!

Be realistic...open your eyes and see...

A different of 12 years old is not a major issue. buying a house not staying and registering under her name is a MAJOR issue.

[m0747]

I would encourage you to register the marriage both sides Singapore and China.

If only register in Singapore, she could jolly run back and remarried another day without anyone knowing....

For those PRC girls who are not serious, they would never want to register in China!

For foreigner to register in China is different from local. You need to notary public that you are single at Singapore embassy before you can register in China.

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

I would encourage you to register the marriage both sides Singapore and China.

If only register in Singapore, she could jolly run back and remarried another day without anyone knowing....

For those PRC girls who are not serious, they would never want to register in China!

For foreigner to register in China is different from local. You need to notary public that you are single at Singapore embassy before you can register in China.
Thanks bro for the information.

So meaning i need to go to the embassy in singapore to get my single status before i can get marry in china ?

Ya I think we would get it done in both country just finding means of which route is better for her to get her to stay in SG first.

[sun814]

Bro kelvinaili,

If i did not get it wrong the steps as follow:

1) book a ROM date in SG.

Then i ask my GF to print out the ROM Document.

2) Apply for her a visa of entry of 30 days

3) After the ROM , Apply a LTVP for her directly with our ROM cert.

4) After getting the LTVP cert apply for PR.
For this i understand that the government is strict on this i know that the chances of her getting PR in one short is diff but i dun mind trying. But just to be on the safe side if i apply too many times will this affect her LTVP chances or future chances of getting PR ?

Thanks bro.

can't understand why there is a urgent need to apply PR for her, as LTVP is as good already. but based on your stats, there is a good chance that she can get a PR, but i think ICA also looks at the period of marriage before they are willing to approve.

applying too many times shouldn't affect her chances for LTVP or PR, just that if she was rejected for PR, u will need to wait for a few months (i think is 6 months) before u can apply again.

for my experience, me and my wife (holds a LTVP) at the time of marriage, and successfully got her PR on the first try after 2 years of marriage.

haha, if u want to know how the PRCs experiences in applying for PR in Singapore, u should go to this popular website. that's how i and my wife really learns from others' experiences.

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

hu sun814,

The website you mention can give me the link ? To me the only advantage of her getting her PR is that we can go for BTO then a resale flat. :mad: Have been looking around the COV is still 30 - 40K... So got to stay with parent first.

So bro can ask you how you bring your wife over to SG at first ?
care to share your exp.

:)

[drekman]

You marry prc u will regret. They only want your money.

[Mr_don_juan]

I would encourage you to register the marriage both sides Singapore and China.

If only register in Singapore, she could jolly run back and remarried another day without anyone knowing....

For those PRC girls who are not serious, they would never want to register in China!

For foreigner to register in China is different from local. You need to notary public that you are single at Singapore embassy before you can register in China.

Can anyone can re-clarify the above statement. If a prc woman get married (w/o divorce) in singapore, she can still get married to another man in china. You mean the chinese government don't do a check on their locals marriage status ?

[holein1]

Hi bro,

At first i was also thinking in this way meaning the china marriage cert route.

As to me it give me the flexibility of having the marriage cert first . Then i can apply for LTVP then if that approve then i can fetch her from china. Can help me ask your friend on how he handle on this ? Thanks . I understand from my friend is quite easy for the locals to marry just go there take a photo and can get marry liao.

hi bro, apparantly it's like what you say, very simple, except with one tedious task you need to do - proof of your marital status. this one is quite tedious as you need to go ROM, supreme court, mfa and finally chinese embassy in spore.

one more point to note: it is best if you can ask your girl to check for all the documents needed for you to marry her in her hometown. you know china, you might never know if one place in china differs from another in terms of marriage requirements.

cheers.

[holein1]

Can anyone can re-clarify the above statement. If a prc woman get married (w/o divorce) in singapore, she can still get married to another man in china. You mean the chinese government don't do a check on their locals marriage status ?

i dont think the chinese govt check. fyi, i don't think the spore govt check too. i did mine a few yrs ago in spore and ROM didnt even ask for proof of my wife's marital status. however, i dunno if that has changed now.

[holein1]

Thanks bro for the information.

So meaning i need to go to the embassy in singapore to get my single status before i can get marry in china ?

Ya I think we would get it done in both country just finding means of which route is better for her to get her to stay in SG first.

bro, i will advise against marrying in both countries. in a certain sense, you're committing a double marriage offence, though to the same girl.

[Black_Hawk_Up]

Hi bro,

At first i was also thinking in this way meaning the china marriage cert route.

As to me it give me the flexibility of having the marriage cert first . Then i can apply for LTVP then if that approve then i can fetch her from china. Can help me ask your friend on how he handle on this ? Thanks . I understand from my friend is quite easy for the locals to marry just go there take a photo and can get marry liao.

personally i think it will be better to ROM in spore. somehow i got a feeling our goverment agency does not trust any cert fully unless it is done over here. it might make things alot easier for you in the long run.

further more, register your marriage in china is quite troublesome compare to here. check this link (http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/marriage-registration.htm) for some information.

my PRC spouse and i have being married for 2years. there are ups and downs as any marriage but we manage to go through. so far so good. keeping fingers cross for many good years ahead.

oh, we apply for PR here after 4months into our marriage and apporved. those was the days... good luck bro. take care.

[twistedfate]

Thanks for the blessing bros :o

seen some bros here got a few question on passes, marriage cert.

here is my experience and things i found out.

ROM in SG vs China.

ROM in china is rather easy and could be done within a day when you have all the required documents, but it would be very troublesome to get it endorsed.

after getting the marriage certificate, you will need to go to one of the singapore embassy in china located in bejing, guangzhou or shanghai to endorsed it. in short the china marriage certificate is pointless.


ROM in singapore is easier, book a date for rom, apply for her visa via SAVE from ica stating that it;s for the purpose of marriage and it will be approved withing 1-2 days. send it over to her and wala. If you by any means need to get a china Cert of marriage, just drop my the china embassy at tanglin road and get it endorsed, easier, cheaper than flying all over china to get those done.

and a little point to note for all the bros that think because they request for a house in china means they want money, after talking to a few friends, local in china they are all telling me the same thing. It is a tradition for the guy to get a house 1st before marriage, it's a cultural thing even for the locals.

the older generation of PRCs are still stuck in that era where a house is almost mandatory before marriage. if you are marrying a foreigner, i think it would only be fair that you understand their culture and do a give and take situation and hope they understand yours too :rolleyes:

[sun814]

and a little point to note for all the bros that think because they request for a house in china means they want money, after talking to a few friends, local in china they are all telling me the same thing. It is a tradition for the guy to get a house 1st before marriage, it's a cultural thing even for the locals.

the older generation of PRCs are still stuck in that era where a house is almost mandatory before marriage. if you are marrying a foreaigner, i think it would only be fair that you understand their culture and do a give and take situation and hope they understand yours too :rolleyes:

haha, thank you for your sharing. first of all, i also marry a PRC for more than 2 years now. the thing is, she never ask me to buy a house in china. come to think of it, why should one buy one in china if you are staying in singapore? don't you think it is ridiculous to put it down as a cultural thing? just buy a nice flat or condo here is more logical.

[twistedfate]

haha, thank you for your sharing. first of all, i also marry a PRC for more than 2 years now. the thing is, she never ask me to buy a house in china. come to think of it, why should one buy one in china if you are staying in singapore? don't you think it is ridiculous to put it down as a cultural thing? just buy a nice flat or condo here is more logical.

Well let's put it this way, i know many people see this as a way to go after "money" at the end of the day. It's rather simple, most of the time the guy's parent will buy the house for the son even before he has any intention of getting married.

The house will be under the guys name unless of cause "she" demands that her name be put into the deed than it's fishy:o

As for the cultural thing, since you married a PRC than i think you understand that in china "face value" or "bragging rights" which i do not approve or like is part of their culture. Having a house is "face value". :p

[CIM-FJ-BBBj]

Hi twistedfate bro can ask you some qns as you seems experience on this.

I am getting marry around july or aug this year with my prc gf. Just to ask you mention we book a date in ROM then apply via SAVE(ICA) for her to come over. The next qns i would like to ask is that after i got the ROM i will apply for her LTVP is it will it be easily approve ? As i am also thinking about the air ticket and stuff if it is easily approve i was thinking about getting a one way ticket but i not sure will it have problem when she went thru the ICA without a returning ticket do you have exp on this ? :)

[Iemanishere]

Hi, just to check anyone got wife in sgp and one in china??

[skkan]

I just divorce PRC after six years, first we fuck every where and almost everyday, second year we fuck once a week only at home, then third year we fuck once a month only at home in the bed room, fourth year we fuck once every three month because her daughter already 14 years got to be very careful, cannot make any noise.... Fifth years onwards she fuck around with the men before she get to knows me, work in MP.…… until one day I go home early I found a pack of condom and a vibrator under her clothing at one corner inside cardboard, she said for her own used but later I found another one used condom contains sperm!!!!!! Finally she admit having sex with those customer..... I gave her a slap and finish my dream. The best part was one of her Fren oso PDMM, suppose to help us patch back but ended up asked to to forget it because she admitted to her she enjoy sex with different men!!!!! Six years ago I gave up the forest because of a old tree, now realise I'm stupid , fortunately can go back to the forest , pay much lesser and have greater fun!!! This is just to share my experience not compliant, PRC got good and bad but those in Singapore already becomes devil ! They are very materialistic and $$$ face!

[Iemanishere]

Well bro, I truly understand there are good and bad.. And most I would say just want to live the good life of what thy friends say abt sgp man, well not all are true.. Ones thy go out of china, thy all turn to the dark side...


Met one, but ended after 6 months because of the thought of not being with me everyday when back in china... I still think of her..

[RealEstateGuy]

I just divorce PRC after six years, first we fuck every where and almost everyday, second year we fuck once a week only at home, then third year we fuck once a month only at home in the bed room, fourth year we fuck once every three month because her daughter already 14 years got to be very careful, cannot make any noise.... Fifth years onwards she fuck around with the men before she get to knows me, work in MP.…… until one day I go home early I found a pack of condom and a vibrator under her clothing at one corner inside cardboard, she said for her own used but later I found another one used condom contains sperm!!!!!! Finally she admit having sex with those customer..... I gave her a slap and finish my dream. The best part was one of her Fren oso PDMM, suppose to help us patch back but ended up asked to to forget it because she admitted to her she enjoy sex with different men!!!!! Six years ago I gave up the forest because of a old tree, now realise I'm stupid , fortunately can go back to the forest , pay much lesser and have greater fun!!! This is just to share my experience not compliant, PRC got good and bad but those in Singapore already becomes devil ! They are very materialistic and $$$ face!

Braddah thats terrible. Braddah I hope you are able to move forward and dun let this be a drag on your positivity and things you can still accomplish.

[BowBow]

Hi twistedfate bro can ask you some qns as you seems experience on this.

I am getting marry around july or aug this year with my prc gf. Just to ask you mention we book a date in ROM then apply via SAVE(ICA) for her to come over. The next qns i would like to ask is that after i got the ROM i will apply for her LTVP is it will it be easily approve ? As i am also thinking about the air ticket and stuff if it is easily approve i was thinking about getting a one way ticket but i not sure will it have problem when she went thru the ICA without a returning ticket do you have exp on this ? :)

Longing for the answer too...

[twistedfate]

Hi twistedfate bro can ask you some qns as you seems experience on this.

I am getting marry around july or aug this year with my prc gf. Just to ask you mention we book a date in ROM then apply via SAVE(ICA) for her to come over. The next qns i would like to ask is that after i got the ROM i will apply for her LTVP is it will it be easily approve ? As i am also thinking about the air ticket and stuff if it is easily approve i was thinking about getting a one way ticket but i not sure will it have problem when she went thru the ICA without a returning ticket do you have exp on this ? :)

Sorry for the late reply been very busy.. :(

LTSVP normally quite easy to get but also depend alot on your income..

as for the 1 way ticket problem.. as long as her visa is approved via Save with u as a local sponsor.. no problems with immigration for sure.

i just ask and checked for u... immigration has never ask her for a return ticket before. :o

[jbcheong123]

any bro's prc wife learning english? did some online search and seems like most people finds British Council to be the best..but 2k per month to study full time English is too expensive..care to share which other schools also quite good but at a more affordable price?? than

[banger_boy]

English you can try with the community centre. they have courses however, the price is different if she LTSVP and PR.