Is your KCed WL lying to you?

[somaur]

I was thinking to post in Papa Young's thread but thought since this is similar but entirely another issue altogether, I decided to start a fresh thread.

Been going to GL since more than 10 years back, and it was only until last year, that I was KC-ed by a cat 150 PRC WL in 16W17. She left since May last year During that time she will always be saying things like how you are the only one, how only you give them that feelings, go shopping bought her clothes, IPhone, go hotel81 on her off days (no 2 ID to get rooms then, dang) etc.

However, when she suddenly decided to go back, she suddenly gave me a account number with a name which was unheard of (she gave me a fake name) and told me to send her SGD 1k monthly if I really do love her. Which of course I did not comply and before you know it, it's back to Chong Qing for her and the end of "US".

I am not exactly trying to tell a sob story here, but thought as a service to all brothers out there. if you think this WL is truly in love with you or just basically telling the same lies to all the roberts out there, then we should start a group to protect ourselves.

The idea is very simple. Just PM the WL that you got KC-ed with. Then we just go try her out, it's very easy to affirm if whatever that WL said to you is true or just plain lies... Eg. "I only frenched with you, only do this for you, never ask ppl for gifts, etc can easily be verified.

I feel we just do this on a PM basis, as this is not an attempt to break the WL's rice bowl, but merely as a protection to ourselves from being taken for a ride. No money or fee involved. Just helping each other out.

What do you guys think?

[woail2]

wahaha! bro Soamur, we are all liars ourselves lah! We lie to our gal friends, we lie to our wives that we dont cheat them, that we dont go to GL. So we should not blame PRC WL for lying to us lah. If PRC WLs are truly honest, they will not be in this trade in the first place.
If you read Chinese, I tell you a phrase they say. 我做这一行已经够贱了，说了一些谎拿一些钱算得了什么？ So you can expect them to lie to you. They will laugh at you if they found out you really dont know they are lying. They expect you to know they are lying. They also expect you to pay some extra $ to them, because they expect you to be generous, just like rich countries donating money to poort countries hit by natural disaster.

So bottomline is that we are all telling lies. We just need to be very alert and dont let our small head think for the big head. We can give some small donations, but not excessively until you wake up one morning and feel that you have been cheated.

[amkan]

wahaha! bro Soamur, we are all liars ourselves lah! We lie to our gal friends, we lie to our wives that we dont cheat them, that we dont go to GL. So we should not blame PRC WL for lying to us lah. If PRC WLs are truly honest, they will not be in this trade in the first place.
If you read Chinese, I tell you a phrase they say. 我做这一行已经够贱了，说了一些谎拿一些钱算得了什么？ So you can expect them to lie to you. They will laugh at you if they found out you really dont know they are lying. They expect you to know they are lying. They also expect you to pay some extra $ to them, because they expect you to be generous, just like rich countries donating money to poort countries hit by natural disaster.

So bottomline is that we are all telling lies. We just need to be very alert and dont let our small head think for the big head. We can give some small donations, but not excessively until you wake up one morning and feel that you have been cheated.

Bros, I raise both my hands and legs agree with you, whether they are full time or part time, whether they are only massage or also do it with selective customer, I never come across any WL / FL don't lie! Almost all I know lie caught red handed by me, the only thing is like bros said, we all are man, basic min guideline is we MUST wiope our mouth after eating! No free lunch, no such thing as FOC, FOC meaning most bros here know - stands for Fuck On Credit, long run interest is 10 times more than loan shark!

[smoky7]

Bro, should never ever believe what a WL tells you, all her claims of you are the only one that I perform this with, you are the only one I enjoy making love to... seriously it's all bullshit. An experienced cheongster like you should be very aware of the malicious nature of a WL's claims. Best approach, one ear in one ear out, once you believe their sad or love stories, that's where the trouble starts.

Frankly, I prefer to stick to the F&F theory

[ezez11]

Hi Bro, why you should bother to confirm a question that you had the answer in your heart---you knew her in brothel and she was a prostitute and she was lying to you and other clients.

So, bro please move on, close this thread and even she was NOT lying to you, find another WL who can KC you if you like this kind feeling.

Good luck!

[digby]

Hi Bro, why you should bother to confirm a question that you had the answer in your heart---you knew her in brothel and she was a prostitute and she was lying to you and other clients.

So, bro please move on, close this thread and even she was NOT lying to you, find another WL who can KC you if you like this kind feeling.

Good luck!

Don't think anyone should ever trust a WL. Please guys, there isn't a need to start a group like this, because 80% of WLs out there a liars, just like me :)

[GuessJeans]

Bros,

When you are in GL, you should throw away all KC, be it to the whores or to the OKTs. Just play by the rule that they are out to earn your money, that's all and no KC. If they are good people, Anti-vice won't call them Rubbish.

[king bong]

Bro somaur, want to try my wl from 1612 that says i am her only? Pm me if you want to try and woe her. I can do the same for you. Thanks bro haja

[somaur]

King Bong Bro, already PMed you.

Well, after so long, I think there are basically 2 groups of us chiongster around,

The rational type that have very strong self belief and are really in here for the bong, and can just fuck and go.

I used to be in this group, never visit a WL more than 5 times and always hoping around trying new gals.


Then there is the others who may due to chemistry or what you called it got snarl by the WL, as some bros put it, the heart ruled over the heads (big and small). The common thing I see that we will all go through a denial stage, not wanting to know more and just happily accepts what she says and paying through your nose to satisfy her.

Of cuz, some of the WLs are very obvious, and kept asking for money, but how about those that never asked? Are they for real? or are they putting the longer string so they can hook a bigger fish? haha....

I just thought we can help each other verify that, especially when a lot of bros also know that the WLs think we singaporean men are all stupid. I feel we will be even more stupid if we don't face the situation head on and make our own moves to avoid being burnt emotionally and financially. :)

[Xgenre]

Is your WL lying to the KCed you? Get real. Only you are KCed. She just lets you think you've KCed her. Dumb question from a dumb guy. Now get real and get wise.

[teebs_darklord]

King Bong Bro, already PMed you.
Well, after so long, I think there are basically 2 groups of us chiongster around,
The rational type that have very strong self belief and are really in here for the bong, and can just fuck and go.
I used to be in this group, never visit a WL more than 5 times and always hoping around trying new gals.
Then there is the others who may due to chemistry or what you called it got snarl by the WL, as some bros put it, the heart ruled over the heads (big and small). The common thing I see that we will all go through a denial stage, not wanting to know more and just happily accepts what she says and paying through your nose to satisfy her.
Of cuz, some of the WLs are very obvious, and kept asking for money, but how about those that never asked? Are they for real? or are they putting the longer string so they can hook a bigger fish? haha....
I just thought we can help each other verify that, especially when a lot of bros also know that the WLs think we singaporean men are all stupid. I feel we will be even more stupid if we don't face the situation head on and make our own moves to avoid being burnt emotionally and financially. :)

Come on lah...Is there really a need or necessity to find out if the so called WL you KCed is lying to you? At the end of the day, WL's won't get KCed so easily, most of the time, it's just an act so that they can get more tips, repeat business etc.

I mean, let's face it. WL's are here to fuck around and they make money by fucking around. Why would they burn the whole forest for just one tree (you) unless you are that damn rich and are offering them much more than what they are earning to be with you.

And the flip side is how many guys can actually forget about the WL's past and accept it if you want to have a relationship with her? Seriously, Singapore is a very small place and you will almost certainly bump into people who have fucked her everywhere you go...:D

[Frankiestine]

In the first place why get KC by them? Great sex is not the same as feelings.

[king bong]

In the first place why get KC by them? Great sex is not the same as feelings.


Come on bro frankie, you must have been KCed even once :) it's part of being a certified cheongster haha :D

[teebs_darklord]

Come on bro frankie, you must have been KCed even once :) it's part of being a certified cheongster haha :D

Being KCed by a WL does not mean you are a certified cheongster...:D

[king bong]

Being KCed by a WL does not mean you are a certified cheongster...:D

But getting over it and moving towards greater bonks does right :)

[yangguo]

Being KCed by a WL does not mean you are a certified cheongster...:D

Being a certified cheongster means that you will not be KCed by the WL.

Too bad I still have not received my cert yet after so many years of cheonging.. sigh.

[somaur]

Well, I will just say that different cheongster behaves differently, those that never kenna KCed is just that they have not met that one gal yet.

However, if you do meet that gal, rather than be taken for a fool, perhaps we can have a litmus test, that's all I am thinking. Obviously this isn't fool proof, but I remember one bro wrote about KCed before, just need to imagine that WL after you walk out of the room and the next customer goes in, and she says the exact same thing to them. You will probably know better what to expect and not get yourself knee deep into shit.

However, there might just be that slim chance that the gal is for real, then I feel we would all be happy to care and have their companionship during their stay in Sg. We are not talking about long term or something, as in Papa Yong's thread, those things are like 1 in a 1000?

P.S: Errm...I am getting quite a few PMs with WLs that they wish to have them tested...Me only 2 hands 2 legs and limited funds...do give me a bit of time.

Cheers

[teebs_darklord]

Being a certified cheongster means that you will not be KCed by the WL.

Too bad I still have not received my cert yet after so many years of cheonging.. sigh.

You are absolutely right...:D

A certified cheongster should not be KCed by any WL...In fact he should KC the WL without getting KCed by her...:p

[king bong]

You are absolutely right...:D

A certified cheongster should not be KCed by any WL...In fact he should KC the WL without getting KCed by her...:p

Let's call it part of growing up haha learn from experience. Very rare can you kc a wl because they are experts. So learn to get kced by them then use it to counter attack and end up kc them haha call it the art of war :cool:

[bonkster]

The answer to the question "Is your KCed WL lying to you?" is simply YES! :D

In the judicial system, a suspect should be innocent until proven guilty.

In the KCed by WL/FL system, a suspect should be guilty until proven innocent. :p

[woail2]

Bro Somaur, I imagine u are still young, may be less than 40, and still have strong emotions about love & care, and you get electrified by a couple of PRC WLs you really like huh?
For old birds who have gone thru many love battles with PRC WLs before, they are hardened by now, and less likely to get KCed again. Nonetheless, there could still be a couple of old birds out there who earn a few hundred K a year, and they can afford to splurge 10% of their income on PRC WLs, changing from one to another, and not feeling kena cheated at all if things dont work out with the chickens.

[evildestron]

a WL tried to ask me to buy her an iphone4 , saying she will pay me back all those , at first i wanted to buy , after seeing this thread i realise and wake up time to move on !!

thanks for the wake up call bros !

[Frankiestine]

Come on bro frankie, you must have been KCed even once :) it's part of being a certified cheongster haha :D

the furthest i would go is to only rtf her more often and remind myself that its only the sex not the feeling that makes me feel good been with her..

[king bong]

We all meet our match bro frankie! Haha like what yoda said in star wars the force strengthens when the bond grows :D

[Frankiestine]

We all meet our match bro frankie! Haha like what yoda said in star wars the force strengthens when the bond grows :D

Well bro i been through it all thou not from a wl..like what they say "the grass may look greener"...unfortunately...:(

[woail2]

Is your WL lying to the KCed you? Get real. Only you are KCed. She just lets you think you've KCed her. Dumb question from a dumb guy. Now get real and get wise.
Bro Xgenre, please be gentle lah. Dont condemn any bro asking dumb question. It is a learning process for young cheongsters who dont have many years of battlefield experience in GL, and now we are facing sexenemies we have never faced before until 2009 Jan. So like LKY, we the old birds want to pass on knowledge & experiences to the younger generation of cheongsters. Let them ask all dumb questions, and old birds will tell the Hard Truths. This is wealth preservation man! If not, lots of money will flow to China and we will become fucking poor one day because we fuck the PRC WL too much without knowing how to control our finances. Tio-bo-tio, bro?

[somaur]

Bro Somaur, I imagine u are still young, may be less than 40, and still have strong emotions about love & care, and you get electrified by a couple of PRC WLs you really like huh?
For old birds who have gone thru many love battles with PRC WLs before, they are hardened by now, and less likely to get KCed again. Nonetheless, there could still be a couple of old birds out there who earn a few hundred K a year, and they can afford to splurge 10% of their income on PRC WLs, changing from one to another, and not feeling kena cheated at all if things dont work out with the chickens.


You are spot on, less than 40! Perhaps that's why kenna KCed before. That WL have left already, guess still learning to harden myself, but so far so good. Haven't fall into trap yet.

However, seeing Papa Yong's thread kinda brings up memory so started this as a way to help some bro who are in the same predicament. Not all of us are earning a few hundred k a year, so if they were to find out earlier about the WL, the earlier and less loss they will suffer? That's my rationale at least.

That being said, I am not saying 100% of all WL are fake, there are also the true case as in Papa yong's thread, just that they are far and few in between.

[teebs_darklord]

You are spot on, less than 40! Perhaps that's why kenna KCed before. That WL have left already, guess still learning to harden myself, but so far so good. Haven't fall into trap yet.

However, seeing Papa Yong's thread kinda brings up memory so started this as a way to help some bro who are in the same predicament. Not all of us are earning a few hundred k a year, so if they were to find out earlier about the WL, the earlier and less loss they will suffer? That's my rationale at least.

That being said, I am not saying 100% of all WL are fake, there are also the true case as in Papa yong's thread, just that they are far and few in between.

Age does not play a major part in whether a guy gets KCed by a WL or not. It is his approach to the whole thing that determines if he is going to fall into the KC trap. As I always maintain, the best philosophy is fuck and forget. Remember that whatever gfe you get from a WL is just a pretence 99.999% of the time. If you do not understand this simple concept, then u deserve what you get.

And asking strangers to test if the WL is lying to you is ridiculous. Who in their right mind would do that and if you find out that she is a liar, what are you going to do? KPKB here about how you got cheated of your feelings and money?

[enigma]

A mature adult knows the proper functions of every unit of the world, and accordingly, how he should, and should not, behave in each. You don't go inside a movie theatre to experience reality, and, likewise, you don't visit a brothel to seek love. Of course, you might have the illusion that love comes just when you don't expect it. But then, A: 99% of the time, it's just your illusion, and B: even it is real initially, love grown in wrong place will never get nurtured properly. Instead of joy, in time, it is pain and regret that it brings. As Shakespear put it,

"A bliss in proof,—and prov’d, a very woe;
Before, a joy propos’d; behind, a dream
---Sonnet No. 129"

If you taste something delightful in a restaurant, what you should do is to enjoy as much as you can and recommend to your friend. Why would you want to KC the chef? So that the chef can and will cook only for you? :)

But, having said all this, there will always be bros who fall victim. After all, men are just dumb dicks... :)

"All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.
--- Sonnet No. 129"

[enigma]

the furthest i would go is to only rtf her more often and remind myself that its only the sex not the feeling that makes me feel good been with her..

Right attitude!

[Xgenre]

Bro Xgenre, please be gentle lah. Dont condemn any bro asking dumb question. Tio-bo-tio, bro?

Yes I agree with you. I may be too harsh. Sorry TS. Glad you are fine now. For a more informative thread on KC, please visit http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=116417 A lot of issues have been discussed there.

[woail2]

To all young bros who want to learn about the tricks deployed by PRC WL, here are a few, other than those already mentioned in this forum, I have gathered over the past 2 decades interacting with them:

1) Pretend to want to learn English or pursue further studies, so that she can get out of the flesh trade ASAP. I know of a PRC WL who attends week end English tuition, sponsored by a bro, just to find that she stops attending after 2 lessons, wasting the tuition fees.
2) Pretend to talk life philosophy with her beloved bro. Things like money is not the most important in life. Health is. Friendship is. If one uses non-ethical way to swindle money, there will be retribution. Thundder will strike the swindler one day...etc etc.
3) Give her beloved bro extra services, like 2 shots, or buy him presents to surprise him.
4) Have great plans to start up business after returning to China, and ask her beloved bro if he can loan her some money. Beauty salon, noodle shop, tour agency.....very entreprenuerial spirit to impress our bros.
5) She will praise the chosen bro, saying he is really kind hearted, he is different from the rest until he floats above cloud nine. She will say bad words about other bros she pretends she does not like, so that her chosen beloved bro will really believe he is the chosen one amongst hundreds of cheongsters she has fucked.
6) Pretend to be poor, esp in front of a new cheongster she is targeting to dupe. She will hide all her luxurious belongings like jewelry, LV bag and etc, giving the bro a feeling that she is really living a simple life. Out of sympathy, the sucker bro will go ahead to buy expensive items to decorate her up. Otherwise, bo-bin-zu leh. In reality, she has all kinds of luxurious items in her closet back home.

All lao-jiao bros are welcome to share knowhoe with young cheongsters in this forum. May be one day we can publish a book called "Hard Truths: The Chicken War" ? :D:D:D

[GuessJeans]

Hahaha, Bro, let me add on -

7) Pretend to be richman daughter (千金小姐) before entering this line. And was forced into this line because of family reason - bankrupt due to father or mother illness, father is high ranking police officer but because of corruption was serving jail terms...to gain Sympathy!!
Remark: These tricks were deployed by Thai whores in Bangkok long ago, if you fall into this trap, what to say?

8) If the whore is about to return home, have to be very careful!!! She will try to ask all customers to buy expensive staffs for them. And if you already fell into her KC traps, they will pretend that they will marry you, but once she returned home, she will tell you all sort of old grandfather stories or just simply cut off all forms of contacts. Never assume that she gives you QQ contact means they are real to you.

In fairness, I did meet a few nice retired Malaysian whores but they are not from PRC and they are RARE indeed.:rolleyes:


To all young bros who want to learn about the tricks deployed by PRC WL, here are a few, other than those already mentioned in this forum, I have gathered over the past 2 decades interacting with them:

1) Pretend to want to learn English or pursue further studies, so that she can get out of the flesh trade ASAP. I know of a PRC WL who attends week end English tuition, sponsored by a bro, just to find that she stops attending after 2 lessons, wasting the tuition fees.
2) Pretend to talk life philosophy with her beloved bro. Things like money is not the most important in life. Health is. Friendship is. If one uses non-ethical way to swindle money, there will be retribution. Thundder will strike the swindler one day...etc etc.
3) Give her beloved bro extra services, like 2 shots, or buy him presents to surprise him.
4) Have great plans to start up business after returning to China, and ask her beloved bro if he can loan her some money. Beauty salon, noodle shop, tour agency.....very entreprenuerial spirit to impress our bros.
5) She will praise the chosen bro, saying he is really kind hearted, he is different from the rest until he floats above cloud nine. She will say bad words about other bros she pretends she does not like, so that her chosen beloved bro will really believe he is the chosen one amongst hundreds of cheongsters she has fucked.
6) Pretend to be poor, esp in front of a new cheongster she is targeting to dupe. She will hide all her luxurious belongings like jewelry, LV bag and etc, giving the bro a feeling that she is really living a simple life. Out of sympathy, the sucker bro will go ahead to buy expensive items to decorate her up. Otherwise, bo-bin-zu leh. In reality, she has all kinds of luxurious items in her closet back home.

All lao-jiao bros are welcome to share knowhoe with young cheongsters in this forum. May be one day we can publish a book called "Hard Truths: The Chicken War" ? :D:D:D

[downtown]

I would never ever trust them, to be common friends still ok .

[king bong]

I would never ever trust them, to be common friends still ok .

Up to you bro sopeople bother trying because not all wl are as psycho as you think. Search this latin maxim "de gustibus non desputandum est" we all have our opinion so no point in discussing because opinions are not something logical becausenit is a preference of taste :)

[GLPrince]

they are all sluts. dun ever trust them. they can give u the gf feeling, means they can give other clients also. their main aim is for u to rtf them. they can tell u how special u are, how much they like u, miss u, love u, thinking of u... all are LIES.

dun ever fall into their trap. when u start to rtf them, slowly their service will drop. cause most of the time when u rtf, u will be spending more time hugging, kissing, cuddle all that. and she will know that u somehow kena kc by her already, so u will start to realize service not as good as before.

i used to fall into their trap, got kced, and i still tot everything might be real. until one day when one of the bro in forum wrote a FR about her. that was when i start to wake up.

what i have to say is they are pure slut and complete liars. dun ever believe them. cause they can do all the stuff to win u, they can also do it on other clients. is like copy and paste.

[e_pbk]

Bro GLPrince

You the man!!!!!

Cheers

[somaur]

I empathized with your past experience, but that's also the reason why I am setting this up. If not for another Bro's FR on that WL, you will probably still be trapped by that WL and gonna be losing so much more.

I think you were lucky in that sense and made a quick exit, other bros might not be that lucky. So rather than waiting for durian to fall from the sky, I say why not we help each other out and take an active role to find out more about the WL?

There are many bro who said all can't be trusted and that is perhaps very true, but if feelings can be that rational, we won't have that much trouble isn't it?

they are all sluts. dun ever trust them. they can give u the gf feeling, means they can give other clients also. their main aim is for u to rtf them. they can tell u how special u are, how much they like u, miss u, love u, thinking of u... all are LIES.

dun ever fall into their trap. when u start to rtf them, slowly their service will drop. cause most of the time when u rtf, u will be spending more time hugging, kissing, cuddle all that. and she will know that u somehow kena kc by her already, so u will start to realize service not as good as before.

i used to fall into their trap, got kced, and i still tot everything might be real. until one day when one of the bro in forum wrote a FR about her. that was when i start to wake up.

what i have to say is they are pure slut and complete liars. dun ever believe them. cause they can do all the stuff to win u, they can also do it on other clients. is like copy and paste.

[king bong]

they are all sluts. dun ever trust them. they can give u the gf feeling, means they can give other clients also. their main aim is for u to rtf them. they can tell u how special u liars. dun ever believe them. cause they can do all the stuff to win u, they can also do it on other clients. is like copy and paste.

Bro, it is a matter of taste. We can not generalize, simply saying you wouldn't want to be stereotyped as an ass hole vecause you go to gl correct?

[teebs_darklord]

I empathized with your past experience, but that's also the reason why I am setting this up. If not for another Bro's FR on that WL, you will probably still be trapped by that WL and gonna be losing so much more.

I think you were lucky in that sense and made a quick exit, other bros might not be that lucky. So rather than waiting for durian to fall from the sky, I say why not we help each other out and take an active role to find out more about the WL?

There are many bro who said all can't be trusted and that is perhaps very true, but if feelings can be that rational, we won't have that much trouble isn't it?

If you are talking about your feelings for a WL, then it isn't rational at all.

Just think of it:

1) She comes to Singapore to work as a WL/FL purely because she wants to make money. And that is the undeniable fact.

2) A WL/FL earns way in excess of most Singaporeans.

3) Since a WL/FL is here solely to make money and she more often than not makes way in excess of her customers, is there any reason why she would stop working and not make any money for a customer?

4) Since a WL is here to make money and she knows that if she acts like she likes a customer, that customer will visit her more often and give her more tips, then do you think what she says to any customer is true?

So is there really a need to test your WL whom you THINK you have KCed whether she is lying or not?

Do you really think you HAVE KCed the WL or rather you HAVE BEEN KCed BY the WL? Use your brain in your BIG HEAD to think about it. :D

[binbin81]

In short, if you like her..just visit her often and that's the extreme you can go.
Don't go beyond buying things for her etc. if you do, may as well buy for girls you wanna woo and may get surprising outcome.it would be wasted of $$$ to spend it on WL other than bonk.:D i must admit visit legal house quite often but buying things never come across my mind as i know not their only sugar daddy.So all bro into this, please wake up from your dream and bonk hard during your session with her.After the deed, work hard for more vitamins to be back again. simple as ABC :cool:

[king bong]

In short, if you like her..just visit her often and that's the extreme you can go.
Don't go beyond buying things for her etc. if you do, may as well buy for girls you wanna woo and may get surprising outcome.it would be wasted of $$$ to spend it on WL other than bonk.:D i must admit visit legal house quite often but buying things never come across my mind as i know not their only sugar daddy.So all bro into this, please wake up from your dream and bonk hard during your session with her.After the deed, work hard for more vitamins to be back again. simple as ABC :cool:


Good advice senior bro! Any idea if eating dinner watching movie and bonking her for free without buying anything expensive is considered extreme spending haha i got 2 wl i play with loh haha :)

[Frankiestine]

Good advice senior bro! Any idea if eating dinner watching movie and bonking her for free without buying anything expensive is considered extreme spending haha i got 2 wl i play with loh haha :)

That proves you got the mojo not everyone can manage that...

[king bong]

That proves you got the mojo not everyone can manage that...

Long time no see bro frank! We should hang out in gl once what do you think? As per the mojo, call it something i learned from being kc. Pretend you show all your cards but keep the royal flush under your sleeves :)

[sammyboyfor]

Just read my signature and follow the advice given in the link. It'll solve all problems in a flash!

Nothing could be simpler.:rolleyes:

[binbin81]

Good advice senior bro! Any idea if eating dinner watching movie and bonking her for free without buying anything expensive is considered extreme spending haha i got 2 wl i play with loh haha :)

so long its below the cost per session, i believed it is not extreme :D

[king bong]

so long its below the cost per session, i believed it is not extreme :D

It's way below the hourly rate for sure haha thanks bro!

[Angel.]

Is your wl lying to you? The answer is yes, 99% of the time. Go and read the book title “Confessions of a Bangkok private eye” by Warren Olson. This question has been asked over and over again. We Singaporean never seem to learn from our mistake and often ended up in financial ruin, caused by these wl. I too experience at lease 2 wl sms me saying they "miss me, love me and want to marry me" once they know I own a car and earning a high salary. They are willing to do anything for me including anal sex. One wl even offers me her "anal" virginity during my overnights with her. Like the saying goes, if you want to drink milk, why bring the cow home? Fellow Singaporean, please don't fall into their trap. Do not think that she is special and is different from the rest of the wl. Are you so luck to get the 1% that is true to you? Think with your big head, not the small head.

[nakamitchi]

Is your wl lying to you? The answer is yes, 99% of the time. Go and read the book title “Confessions of a Bangkok private eye” by Warren Olson. This question has been asked over and over again. We Singaporean never seem to learn from our mistake and often ended up in financial ruin, caused by these wl. I too experience at lease 2 wl sms me saying they "miss me, love me and want to marry me" once they know I own a car and earning a high salary. They are willing to do anything for me including anal sex. One wl even offers me her "anal" virginity during my overnights with her. Like the saying goes, if you want to drink milk, why bring the cow home? Fellow Singaporean, please don't fall into their trap. Do not think that she is special and is different from the rest of the wl. Are you so luck to get the 1% that is true to you? Think with your big head, not the small head.

Or we should change the topic to WHEN YR KCed nt lying to u....hmmm......

[Glock]

"Is your KCed WL lying to you?"

==> yes

[nakamitchi]

Mr.Flexalong.......go thru this subject written 4 yrs ago....n relax...........no .K.C where got regulars go back to Wls.....10yrs down the road n u look back it will still happen ......

[korean]

Mr.Flexalong.......go thru this subject written 4 yrs ago....n relax...........no .K.C where got regulars go back to Wls.....10yrs down the road n u look back it will still happen ......

bro, till to date i still dont understand what is the scope of KC? no KC mean gfe = 0 or small number? cant a WL no KC but retains regulars with services or friendliness?

[comm]

GFE inside the room and asking for $$$ are 2 different things :)

[norigo77]

bro, till to date i still dont understand what is the scope of KC? no KC mean gfe = 0 or small number? cant a WL no KC but retains regulars with services or friendliness?

Based on my humble opinion, difference between GFE and KC is this:

GFE is short term basis, displays mainly physical affection/friendliness and stays within the 4 walls within that period of time frame.

KC is long term basis, asking for emotional commitment first (like be her bf), then once she sensed you are hooked, ask for financial commitment/support (ultimate goal); goes beyond the 4 walls and allocated time frame. :D

[nebnguyen]

I know this girl from ktv, we got into relationship but I broke up with her after awhile. She say she very love me and sad I broke with her. Last time she only work in ktv but Recently I found her working in gl a newly open house. Pick her but she reject me. I kc-ed her ? Lol

[loverod]

Not all are bad la.. I have had a genuine friendship with a ex-WL, and she does not take any advantage of me for my money or expensive gifts... Before she left, she bought me a gift, which caught me unexpected and feeling paiseh, I bought also bought her a small gift in return.

The only thing I spend are the double sessions with her always.. I guess most bros can understand if you and the WL are very 熟悉了，to have double sessions is a natural tendency. At least for me.

[Dasha]

My two cents. You're asking the wrong ques.

Neither party is capable of a proper relationship. She is fucking everyone else and you're not moving to China (which she is well aware of even if you aren't). All you can have is a fling.

It doesn't matter if she isn't lying to you, which is your concern. What you should be concerned about is that there is no significant difference between the way she treats you and her favourite customers, no matter how pure her intentions are. There will be customers she likes.

[unfit]

bro, till to date i still dont understand what is the scope of KC? no KC mean gfe = 0 or small number? cant a WL no KC but retains regulars with services or friendliness?

Actually KC is Known Conjob:rolleyes:

So many Bro Knew but still willingly to be Coned lor:cool:

As for GFE is Give me Fully till Empty:D

But most Bro are happy to do it:)

[Nato17]

Actually KC is Known Conjob:rolleyes:

So many Bro Knew but still willingly to be Coned lor:cool:

As for GFE is Give me Fully till Empty:D

But most Bro are happy to do it:)

For a minute, I thought I read Cronjob instead of Conjob.

Too much cronjobs around I guess.

[unfit]

For a minute, I thought I read Cronjob instead of Conjob.

Too much cronjobs around I guess.

You mean "Command Run On Notice" or "Commands Run Over Night":confused:

[Apollo]

GFE inside the room and asking for $$$ are 2 different things :)

yes fully agree.

best is more GFE, less asking $$$ :D:D

but we know there is no free lunch

[km69]

What if a WL give me gifts instead? I never give her anything yet. Is this also part of their kc game?

[korean]

Actually KC is Known Conjob:rolleyes:

So many Bro Knew but still willingly to be Coned lor:cool:

As for GFE is Give me Fully till Empty:D

But most Bro are happy to do it:)

So should be happily emptying instead happy ending haha

[korean]

What if a WL give me gifts instead? I never give her anything yet. Is this also part of their kc game?

Definitely

[korean]

yes fully agree.

best is more GFE, less asking $$$ :D:D

but we know there is no free lunch

Aim for free drink, free dinner, free super then

[unfit]

So should be happily emptying instead happy ending haha

Yeah Bro:)

First she empty my Testis:rolleyes:

Then my True Self:cool:

Finally my legal Tender:D

[nakamitchi]

bro, till to date i still dont understand what is the scope of KC? no KC mean gfe = 0 or small number? cant a WL no KC but retains regulars with services or friendliness?

I think K.C(kum ching - in hokkien) in service trade is applicable everywhere la....we go back to our car mechnic shop, saloon for haircut etc.....usually r people we built rapport in life.....in flesh trade services n friendliness is quite a must to survive....but i think it takes alot more other factors to retain regular pool of customers......

Unless the Wl r super pretty or super solid services that we see also die die must up.....if not I see no harm in a little flirt n K.C makes the sessions more enjoyable......but if Wls agree to take customer money base on certain agreement they tie down n fail to fullfill it....like this is more than just simple K.C to retain regular...like this is taking for granted n simply out to con people....

Well a simple gift n tips we give to Wls I dont see any problem....if want to give meaning we r happy with watever services or rapport we built with them.......

[nakamitchi]

Actually KC is Known Conjob:rolleyes:

So many Bro Knew but still willingly to be Coned lor:cool:

As for GFE is Give me Fully till Empty:D

But most Bro are happy to do it:)

For a minute, I thought I read Cronjob instead of Conjob.

Too much cronjobs around I guess.

Wa lao....meaning I kanna con here con there so many yrs liao.......no wonder I must go practise yoga nowadays instead of going geylang..

[nakamitchi]

GFE inside the room and asking for $$$ are 2 different things :)

Based on my humble opinion, difference between GFE and KC is this:

GFE is short term basis, displays mainly physical affection/friendliness and stays within the 4 walls within that period of time frame.

KC is long term basis, asking for emotional commitment first (like be her bf), then once she sensed you are hooked, ask for financial commitment/support (ultimate goal); goes beyond the 4 walls and allocated time frame. :D

I think is a mixture of both Gfe n K.c that makes us want to go back the same Wl again n again.....best just fuck n leave it but usually many r hook.....it happens....but if a Wl no display affection we also feel boring right.....just play play

[luciferpain]

But I paid the price of 10 over k

[luciferpain]

Buying gift extend session basically do nothing ...
Overall she is the winner we r the loser

[tonchs]

Buying gift extend session basically do nothing ...
Overall she is the winner we r the loser

Nobody force u to do that....but yr $ can buy u gfe feel right? Then its worth it

[ffun161]

Not worth KC WL99% are liers and looking for the money in your pocket

[Konnichiwawa]

The actual market price for real love is only $30. If u paying more than $30 that Mean u are do a Robert always kena rip off


Not worth KC WL99% are liers and looking for the money in your pocket

[Harvest]

I think is a mixture of both Gfe n K.c that makes us want to go back the same Wl again n again.....best just fuck n leave it but usually many r hook.....it happens....but if a Wl no display affection we also feel boring right.....just play play

Absolutely, and there is where the hidden danger lies... like the proverbial frog in a pot of boiling water. It starts off just warm and cozy so it gets complacent, but by the time the temperature reaches boiling point, game over. :eek:

[nakamitchi]

Not worth KC WL99% are liers and looking for the money in your pocket

Bro.....u also one of the robert club members like me n some bros here huh.........life is so terrible.....

[nakamitchi]

Absolutely, and there is where the hidden danger lies... like the proverbial frog in a pot of boiling water. It starts off just warm and cozy so it gets complacent, but by the time the temperature reaches boiling point, game over. :eek:

Agree.....especially when Wls going back home.....can bluff bluff grab grab as much as possible n leave.....usually those 24-26yrs old Wls whereby their hubby or bf wait at PRC......no mercy ya....most of the time during their tour here will share with u their sorrowful time in sg..n sweet talk many many to u n make u think u r the only special 'ONE'.....the more sweeter talk Wl the more lies la..

Their services r sure can french u deep deep n enjoy sex with u...so talented......beware....:confused:

[adonis]

Hi bros. Suppose we have a favourite Geylang WL whom we visited a number of times. nakamitchi posted that they might ask for expensive presents just before leaving S'pore forever. We r told this by her. She also asks us to lend them some money for her mother who was a victim of the recent massive flooding in her hometown n luckily is alive but injured. What should our answer be? Tell her we r v sorry to hear that happened to her mother. We agree to everything she asks. Just that she and we have the fun of your life ASAP. Then pay her the normal price her plus tips. Tell her we'll buy those presents she wants. Next time we book her, bring the brochure of the latest Apple iPad she asked for n tell her we've booked 1 for her n it on it's way. No stock. U have a receipt (fake) to show her. Look at her eyes. If she asks for the presents first, answer her that we've honestly paid her each n every time we visited her n tipped her for the past 1 over year. Assure her that S'porean men r honest. Have our fun with her. Ask for some sexual act u like but never done with her. Tell her we love her n will help her when she's back in PRC. We like to marry her too. Had our fun, vamoose. But if she says, "No presents and money, no go". Promise the next time, we'll bring them. Look at her eyes. Still have a session with her. Tell her what I suggested n vamoose forever. Experienced bros pls come in n comment... Thank you.

[ffun161]

It's just a KC game, just never be serious otherwise u hurt yourself

[Dasha]

Mr Adonis,

I must assume you don't wish to spend money.

From your lengthy post, she already got you good and proper.

WL trick is to scam you that she is 1. Some high class model and 2. Appeal to your ego so that you don't want to lose face in front of her. On both counts, you already fell for it.

Let me put things in its proper perspective. 1. She sucks cocks for cheap and 2. You don't need to impress her. She should be impressing you. Your FJ is not FOC. That you are sitting there thinking about how to impress her shows you got it all wrong already. She staying is a different story. But she is leaving why bother to make up so much story?

She going back? Say bye bye. Her mother going to die? Jialat, you no money and actually a bus captain. If she see your Ferrari, just say your friend's car, he go USA so sometimes you help him warm up engine.

I have no problem telling WLs I'm dead poor. I couldn't care less if they don't believe. Why bother losing face in front of a slut? Pls la, they are slut.

Bros who have $10, 000 to spend, pls pte msg me. I intro you to Eastern Europe where the girls look like they walked out of a magazine. After night after night of playboy bunnies, I guarantee you will never look at GL the same again. Or I bring you go premium Thai. You will be treated like a King. $10, 000 gets you some premium KTV pussy even in SG. You are getting ripped off spending money on GL whores. They are really budget fucks. GL chicken is like sweet potato soup. Occasionally sweet and yummy but actually nothing much. But it's cheap so whatever.

Personally, I give a small angpao due to safety reasons. I don't want problem when in PRC.

[nakamitchi]

Hi bros. Suppose we have a favourite Geylang WL whom we visited a number of times. nakamitchi posted that they might ask for expensive presents just before leaving S'pore forever. We r told this by her. She also asks us to lend them some money for her mother who was a victim of the recent massive flooding in her hometown n luckily is alive but injured. What should our answer be? Tell her we r v sorry to hear that happened to her mother. We agree to everything she asks. Just that she and we have the fun of your life ASAP. Then pay her the normal price her plus tips. Tell her we'll buy those presents she wants. Next time we book her, bring the brochure of the latest Apple iPad she asked for n tell her we've booked 1 for her n it on it's way. No stock. U have a receipt (fake) to show her. Look at her eyes. If she asks for the presents first, answer her that we've honestly paid her each n every time we visited her n tipped her for the past 1 over year. Assure her that S'porean men r honest. Have our fun with her. Ask for some sexual act u like but never done with her. Tell her we love her n will help her when she's back in PRC. We like to marry her too. Had our fun, vamoose. But if she says, "No presents and money, no go". Promise the next time, we'll bring them. Look at her eyes. Still have a session with her. Tell her what I suggested n vamoose forever. Experienced bros pls come in n comment... Thank you.

Lend money how to collect back....go china??? This is very cheap excuses....

I see no harm if give yr favourite regular Wl some tips or gift if they going back but no point give any bigger sum of money.Wl stay long enough no short of money anyways.....they just want last min window shopping from bros thats all.....

[Konnichiwawa]

I have one billions to spare but how come all my wl dnot even my $30 for Rawing


Mr Adonis,

I must assume you don't wish to spend money.

From your lengthy post, she already got you good and proper.

WL trick is to scam you that she is 1. Some high class model and 2. Appeal to your ego so that you don't want to lose face in front of her. On both counts, you already fell for it.

Let me put things in its proper perspective. 1. She sucks cocks for cheap and 2. You don't need to impress her. She should be impressing you. Your FJ is not FOC. That you are sitting there thinking about how to impress her shows you got it all wrong already. She staying is a different story. But she is leaving why bother to make up so much story?

She going back? Say bye bye. Her mother going to die? Jialat, you no money and actually a bus captain. If she see your Ferrari, just say your friend's car, he go USA so sometimes you help him warm up engine.

I have no problem telling WLs I'm dead poor. I couldn't care less if they don't believe. Why bother losing face in front of a slut? Pls la, they are slut.

Bros who have $10, 000 to spend, pls pte msg me. I intro you to Eastern Europe where the girls look like they walked out of a magazine. After night after night of playboy bunnies, I guarantee you will never look at GL the same again. Or I bring you go premium Thai. You will be treated like a King. $10, 000 gets you some premium KTV pussy even in SG. You are getting ripped off spending money on GL whores. They are really budget fucks. GL chicken is like sweet potato soup. Occasionally sweet and yummy but actually nothing much. But it's cheap so whatever.

Personally, I give a small angpao due to safety reasons. I don't want problem when in PRC.

[adonis]

Thank you Dasha n nakamitchi. I m not in such a situation. I just brought it up since it was being discussed. And I never intend to lend money to PRC girls who r going to fly back to PRC. Just entice them with such empty promises for better service n GFEs. I know 2 or 3 sad guys who remit money monthly to their PRC FLs who r now living back in PRC who they met before in S'pore. No one in their families dare to tell them not to waste their monies. The PRC FLs probably have their respective husbands over there.

[Nato17]

Thank you Dasha n nakamitchi. I m not in such a situation. I just brought it up since it was being discussed. And I never intend to lend money to PRC girls who r going to fly back to PRC. Just entice them with such empty promises for better service n GFEs. I know 2 or 3 sad guys who remit money monthly to their PRC FLs who r now living back in PRC who they met before in S'pore. No one in their families dare to tell them not to waste their monies. The PRC FLs probably have their respective husbands over there.

I don't think there is a need to entice people with empty promises. They are human beings just like you and me. Would you like it to be enticed with empty promises also so that you can be taken advantaged of? If you do, let me know, I will entice you will a million dollars or even more and then work for me for 1 year FOC. See how you like it bro?

You don't need to fall into their traps of KC but definitely do not need to entice people for better GFE.

[bonkning]

mmm... lidat is like fall to their level oraedy ... must show a bit classi..

[nakamitchi]

Thank you Dasha n nakamitchi. I m not in such a situation. I just brought it up since it was being discussed. And I never intend to lend money to PRC girls who r going to fly back to PRC. Just entice them with such empty promises for better service n GFEs. I know 2 or 3 sad guys who remit money monthly to their PRC FLs who r now living back in PRC who they met before in S'pore. No one in their families dare to tell them not to waste their monies. The PRC FLs probably have their respective husbands over there.

Life is not so complicted la.....go fuck the Wls n enjoy la....how much can do within an hour.....an A.P service standard roughly there to shiok shiok wat for go entice them etc etc......wat u actually want out of them ?? A good fuck right....dats is the reason of their existence in geylang....

If all chio bu in geylang all likes you n want you spend time with them u also busy until no life......so pay,fuck,leave,return,pay,fuck,leave life is easier....dont make things difficult for Wls la.....

[nakamitchi]

I don't think there is a need to entice people with empty promises. They are human beings just like you and me. Would you like it to be enticed with empty promises also so that you can be taken advantaged of? If you do, let me know, I will entice you will a million dollars or even more and then work for me for 1 year FOC. See how you like it bro?

You don't need to fall into their traps of KC but definitely do not need to entice people for better GFE.

K.C trap......hmmm........those was the days bro.....

[adonis]

Oh. nakamitchi.

[unfit]

In order not to be KCed by the WL and fall into the KC trap:rolleyes:

You have to out Tionged the TiongBu:D

[korean]

In order not to be KCed by the WL and fall into the KC trap:rolleyes:

You have to out Tionged the TiongBu:D

England + hokkien = tiong language?

[unfit]

England + hokkien = tiong language?

Hmmm...should be EngKien...still version of SingLish:D