How to tell if this ktv(PRC) gal really love me?

[fabregas1981]

I met this gal at a ktv(not sleazy type where the gals only acc u drink,sing,chat n play games).She was here on singer pass where she can stay for 6 mths.After 2 mths of pursue,she agreed to be my gf.

I must admit intially i only tot of bedding her,therefore i bought gifts to please her,all of which only during courtship but human are not without feelings.I find myself falling in love with her,which was the happiest days of my life.

However,sweet times were never lasting.I later realised tat she had lied to me on few occasions n i was darn angry n sad.Even thou i forgive her,i told to get out of this relationship "emotionally",meaning i withdraw my feeling for her but i still get to satisfy my sexual needs.

After some time,i realise this is quite impossible.I cant control my feelings for her,which grew stronger n stronger.Thus,i try to make her break off with me.I told her i'm actually a very poor man,with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses so i cant give her tips when i visit her.She actually didnt mind!She even bought me an expensive gift for my birthday!

That was not all.She even ask me whether i have enff $ for daily expenses.I tot she jus say so i told her to borrow me $ which she really did n told me no need to return.Even when we go out,she would pay for meals n even hotel expenses..She says she loves me n my financial status is not impt..

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

[sammyboyfor]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek:

Are you nuts? Just fuck her and move on to the next one.

[joew2005]

hi fabregas1981,as u had mentioned ... u r not handsome,don't own a flat,don't own a car or earn much $. so what do u think makes her fall 4 u .... with real feelings?

alot of these tkm r very good in putting on a mask on their faces ... everyday.

the gifts,sex & whatever she gives u now could jz be the initial investments by her.
when she 1s 2 get it back,it would rack in much more profit 4 her .....

yes,human has feelings,esp sg ppl that r always flooded with feelings.
tkm hv feelings,but it's only at most meant 4 her immediate family members.
not some1 she knew only 4 a few months or even a few years.

she sees some usefulness in u 2 her.

[MarkNgSiongBoon]

I think she really like you ,dont need confused ...few occasions she lie cause she come here earn money ,rich ppl book her for sex ,anyway ,you do enjoy the free sex and how the acting like ,bbbj ,69 ,kiss ,AR,full of licking I sure you enjoying just like her clients cheer! :)

But how come your mind thinking of marry her ,how you wants to make family without a stable income ?

1 way can do , but not too selfish ,not narrow minded ,get marry to her make her stay and she can have her own clients Base here ,just let or help her do whatever ,so she could help you income .hotel is danger ,you can use rent a place for her jobs,recommend ,planning ,arrange and she might be 1 of super star in FL 2 ,3 and make opp for you ,buy HDB or car and enjoy 3 some .

income ,Love come together -1 shoot 2 birds

and after she can bring in more friends more FL update ..you might be one of best OKT for us
4 way happy -the webholder / sammyboss ,samsters ,your lover ,you .

Hope my 2 cents worth ;)

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

Not yandao, no car no money are okay one cos you are Singaporean. Most important asset to her. PRC ghosts loves us and our red passport. Never mind she lied to you before and I am very positive all our "seemly" negative advice will not do you good cos you love her. Please marry her and all your doubts wil be verified! ;)

[see see only]

Not yandao, no car no money are okay one cos you are Singaporean. Most important asset to her. PRC ghosts loves us and our red passport. Never mind she lied to you before and I am very positive all our "seemly" negative advice will not do you good cos you love her. Please marry her and all your doubts wil be verified!

Bro IK,

Your suggestion is not bad lei .... but soon the local lawyers will have another divorce case to settle liao :D

Not after this PRC singer got a local job and then her PR status of cos .... ;)

BUT TS, its your life and you do sound young enough to make some mistakes in life so enjoy as you can .... since she is the one feeding you presently somemore :D

[Reoxy]

Not yandao, no car no money are okay one cos you are Singaporean. Most important asset to her. PRC ghosts loves us and our red passport. Never mind she lied to you before and I am very positive all our "seemly" negative advice will not do you good cos you love her. Please marry her and all your doubts wil be verified! ;)

Yes, agree with Bro IK.

The girls loves you.

She lied to you because she is afraid to lose you.

You not yandao, no car, no house, no money. Now she is willing to pay for your expenses. Where to find this kind of lobang?

Pls marry her.:D

[drunken]

Bro, fabregas1981
We can't answer you yes/no just base on those words that you have pen down.

my only advice to you is to drop everything and start afresh with another gals.
that make cheonging more interesting, right?

trust me or us. there's no love in KTV or cheonging scene. If yes, then maybe in 1 out of 100.
and there are 100 brothers out there think he is the '1' fortunate guy.


lastly, i agree that they see our greatest asset is the red passport. if you really wana sian, go and sian those hairddresser loh.

[alan0338]

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

of cos her feelings are real la, if not y she so stupid to get u presents when other guys are buying her presents too ... :rolleyes: :D

and regarding the passport part, also not relevant la. true love dun matter simi color the passport one la :D

if i am u, i will marry her, then stay at home and do housechores and wait for her to bring food back :D

[yahooboy]

I met this gal at a ktv(not sleazy type where the gals only acc u drink,sing,chat n play games).She was here on singer pass where she can stay for 6 mths.After 2 mths of pursue,she agreed to be my gf.

I must admit intially i only tot of bedding her,therefore i bought gifts to please her,all of which only during courtship but human are not without feelings.I find myself falling in love with her,which was the happiest days of my life.

However,sweet times were never lasting.I later realised tat she had lied to me on few occasions n i was darn angry n sad.Even thou i forgive her,i told to get out of this relationship "emotionally",meaning i withdraw my feeling for her but i still get to satisfy my sexual needs.

After some time,i realise this is quite impossible.I cant control my feelings for her,which grew stronger n stronger.Thus,i try to make her break off with me.I told her i'm actually a very poor man,with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses so i cant give her tips when i visit her.She actually didnt mind!She even bought me an expensive gift for my birthday!

That was not all.She even ask me whether i have enff $ for daily expenses.I tot she jus say so i told her to borrow me $ which she really did n told me no need to return.Even when we go out,she would pay for meals n even hotel expenses..She says she loves me n my financial status is not impt..

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

Bro,

will need to depend on how you see this relation. she maybe lie to you and will need to see what is her lie. If she sleep with her client to gets the money than forget of her. Cause at that point of time she agreed to go out with her client do she thinks about your feeling if you found out?
although she's here to earn money and i believe she had pay alot to come to singapore. but by sleeping with other man will reduce the amount big gap?

also you mention that whenever you visit her at KTV you still need to give her tips? then what for you two stay together? do you go out shopping with her need to book her hours? 买钟？

You may want to test her out by asking your friend to book her out and see whether she agreed on that. by spending a bit of money rather then no turning back in future.

You will need to see what lie she told you. if you have doubt on her explaination then give her up and move on to other lady.

[decibel8808]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek:

Are you nuts? Just fuck her and move on to the next one.

Gee boss.. Kinda harsh statement innit?

I met this gal at a ktv(not sleazy type where the gals only acc u drink,sing,chat n play games).She was here on singer pass where she can stay for 6 mths.After 2 mths of pursue,she agreed to be my gf.

I must admit intially i only tot of bedding her,therefore i bought gifts to please her,all of which only during courtship but human are not without feelings.I find myself falling in love with her,which was the happiest days of my life.

However,sweet times were never lasting.I later realised tat she had lied to me on few occasions n i was darn angry n sad.Even thou i forgive her,i told to get out of this relationship "emotionally",meaning i withdraw my feeling for her but i still get to satisfy my sexual needs.

After some time,i realise this is quite impossible.I cant control my feelings for her,which grew stronger n stronger.Thus,i try to make her break off with me.I told her i'm actually a very poor man,with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses so i cant give her tips when i visit her.She actually didnt mind!She even bought me an expensive gift for my birthday!

That was not all.She even ask me whether i have enff $ for daily expenses.I tot she jus say so i told her to borrow me $ which she really did n told me no need to return.Even when we go out,she would pay for meals n even hotel expenses..She says she loves me n my financial status is not impt..

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

Well.. its up to you to decide what you want to do. In the end its your decision after you read all the advices in here. I think that you already have an answer and you just need some inputs here to affirm your decisions. Anyway, just don't forget that you made the decision to be with her if something happens. You can't blame the whole thing on her because it takes two to tango.

[blohsg]

ouch my ears ... Boss ... dun have to shout ... we can all hear you hehehe

It's just a harsh reality check based on the general rule of thumb.

Alan : hahah you can take it as a 小白脸 and what if her job's whoring ? :p

IK + Reoxy : The guy is standing at the window wondering whether to jump a not ... you 2 just come along and give him a good shove hahaha accessory to murder la !

[NewMike1304k]

Dear TS,

The chance of a lady of the night, be it just a singer or a hostess falling in love is very slim. It is not impossible, but it is very slim.

Guys who are lonely will fall in love with almost everyone who shows them a bit of "love" and "care" Some even think that because they can have sex with someone, it means that there is love. But usually, these ladies are just playing all the angles so that they will have more choices and chances. Be smart and just drop and walk away lah. Find a normal girl and live a normal life bro.... I wish you luck.

[Sex4ever]

Hi bro fabregas1981,

Can tell which ktv is it? I wish to try my luck there as well :D

I think KTV gals are make of fresh & blood too, they should have their soft spot also.

[Ken79]

Either she wants money or marriage for a PR/citizenship, most probably both.
Dont forget a divorce can end with monthly maintenance or split of flat sales proceeds.

Dont get yourself involved with 欢场女子,they are just for fun.
If you like china gals so much there are a lot actually that are decent and works hard, i met a lot in my work there but they are mostly in china haha.

Even if you really get to find a decent one there the problems of long distance r/s also takes its toll and china ppl have culture of marrying young by mid 20s in most cases so you have to be prepared for the constant badgering and pressure from her/her family to get married, which is not a cheap affair too.

[knnb40]

1981 - what you got to lose?

Or even if you might lose, what is there to worry, loving any national girl (including the SG female) you are still at risk of losing if divoiced.

Be cool, as long as you don't borrow Ahlong, don't rob, don't get yourself into crime offences because of this girl - just love and enjoy being in-love.

After my divoice I have no trust with female, therefore I actually miss-out three PRC whom really treat me well (I know them from KTV)

Just remeber one thing - do not remind her she is from KTV if ever you have a war.

Enjoy lah.....thing so much for what, if tomorrow any one of you don't wake up to see the sun than it is the end liao.

[joew2005]

hi hi fabregas1981,bros here hv already said their pcs ... which should not be pleasant 2 yr ears.
It's yr choice,u will be the 1 2 face the consequences ..... soon.

bro see see only,some lawyers should be veri happi 2 handle such cases ...
when need not go court,also ask client 2 go 2 court.
simple cases make it veri complex .... so as 2 earn $.

[see see only]

bro see see only,some lawyers should be veri happi 2 handle such cases ...
when need not go court,also ask client 2 go 2 court.
simple cases make it veri complex .... so as 2 earn $.


Ya lor .... ANGRY ANGRY ... me just settled my children maintenance case for an variation issue .... settle out of court also cost me almost 4k .... :mad:

The final court appearance, he got the cheek to ask from me - $500 bill ... i ask the lawyer to go "marina south" to take :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

All these PRC ghosts/trash perfected their "surface job" (表面工夫). No need to buy a parking lot (marrying them), just treat them as season parking coupons - pay and tear their pussies within the stipulated time :D

[daymiddle]

stop going KTV stop answering her calls and stop calling her

[MarkNgSiongBoon]

wat if the PRC gal didnt take $,n instead buy u gifts,treat u meals?will it be they fang chang xian,diao da yu?meaning they eyeing for us to marry them so they can get PR status?

Bro fabregas1981 ,dont need keep asking why why why ,Just marry her and clear your mind ,u keep asking mean you dont want to walk the path I told u ,so dont marry her .


she love you now that's for sure ,accepts and walk this path
Never see your reply also :confused:

[Chanelfingers]

She loans u money, she buys u gifts...
Not her money wat... Those are from tips that rich clients give her when they teh her neh neh...
Ultimately she just want a PR status... She wants u to sign on the ROM cert with her.
Once she stop calling her, she is frustrated, u will see her true colors.

I have heard cases whereby, Angmoh fly to sg to meet up PRC "email penpal"
And she wants to follow him back to US n marry him, hoping she can get a green card...
She was paying for his tickets n her own tickets back to states... If he agreed to marry her...

[joew2005]

Ya lor .... ANGRY ANGRY ... me just settled my children maintenance case for an variation issue .... settle out of court also cost me almost 4k .... :mad:

The final court appearance, he got the cheek to ask from me - $500 bill ... i ask the lawyer to go "marina south" to take :D

they r suppose 2 be professionals .....
but instead of giving professional advice,some of them would ask their clients 2 go the long route or unnecessary route so that they k milk $ out of some unnecessary cases.

if they tell the client the shorter route,they k only milk small $.
if they tell the client the correct route,they might not even milk a single cent.

talking abt professionalism ..... :o

[xxx86]

hey to Threadstart ! i see so many negative comments. I shall give u positive comments go with your heart since u love her.... she ask u to buy this and that u buy for her..she ask u for money u give her all your money..... she ask u to marry her.. u marry her.....she wants to have a third party relationship u give in to her she wants to play hide and seek with you... she will make sure u cannot find her... kakakakakakaka

[see see only]

The final bill of $500, you can always ask him to waive it off for you. most lawyers, as a sign of goodwill, will be happy to do it, as the case is settled. (unless you want to use the lawyer again, you don't really need to pay). Never tell me, I would have told you, you pass me $200, I help you settle the $500 your lawyer is asking for and make a phonecall to your lawyer. :D

Hahaha ... i told him to go "marina south" to fly kite actually :D

But thks bros for the concern, he did waive this $500 bill ...... without much argument. But when you dare ask for discount, you got 50% 50% chance. if no ask = no chance :)

[Linnie]

with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses

Bro, I don't want to repeat all the examples of PRC women's cunning strategies which many helpful samsters have already mentioned.

Seriously, even if your current gf is decent and honest, you do not have what it takes to marry in sg. Marriage in singapore is not about lovey dovey. It is about loans, children, flat, utitlity bills and family future. It requires a big deal of financial stability.

I think you should just continue your bfgf relationship with her till she find a new rich guy to cling to. It will not be long before this happens. Meanwhile, enjoy the gfe, gifts, sex and loans from her.

This is most pragmatic solution I think.

[K9696]

Well done F..gas... I thought you going Barcelona .. still got time to go KTV and with Singer some more...

Your name will be changed soon.. LLH..... LI LI HUA

all the best to your venture.. if you need further advise from us, please
feel free to ask..:rolleyes:

[fabregas1981]

Well done F..gas... I thought you going Barcelona .. still got time to go KTV and with Singer some more...

Your name will be changed soon.. LLH..... LI LI HUA

all the best to your venture.. if you need further advise from us, please
feel free to ask..:rolleyes:

thx to all bro's advices,be it neg n positive.i have thought hard aft reading all your comments.anyway,she's aldy went back to china so we wont meet for quite sometime.during this time,i shall see how things go.all the better if she mia.if she still contact with me,i shall see how things go.seriously speaking,i have not been in many relationships,but she is the gal who really treats me the best n the only gal to make mehave intention of marriage(which i nv tot b4).even if really marry,she aldy mention give ourselves ard 2 yrs time..2 yrs is quite a long time down.if she's really done all things n only motive is for PR status,which i find it hard to believe,i got nth to say n shall resign to my fate..

[K9696]

thx to all bro's advices,be it neg n positive.i have thought hard aft reading all your comments.anyway,she's aldy went back to china so we wont meet for quite sometime.during this time,i shall see how things go.all the better if she mia.if she still contact with me,i shall see how things go.seriously speaking,i have not been in many relationships,but she is the gal who really treats me the best n the only gal to make mehave intention of marriage(which i nv tot b4).even if really marry,she aldy mention give ourselves ard 2 yrs time..2 yrs is quite a long time down.if she's really done all things n only motive is for PR status,which i find it hard to believe,i got nth to say n shall resign to my fate..

You already RESIGN your FATE to her!!! holy cow.... sigh....

She go back CHINA to feed her boyfriend at home... not feeding you now.. trust me... she will never MIA.. she will come back to hounding you...........

Another one bites to dust.......:rolleyes:

[dragos]

bro, they dun exist.....

[sun814]

You already RESIGN your FATE to her!!! holy cow.... sigh....

She go back CHINA to feed her boyfriend at home... not feeding you now.. trust me... she will never MIA.. she will come back to hounding you...........

Another one bites to dust.......:rolleyes:

how do u know??? :eek: u are her boyfriend at home? :confused:

[K9696]

how do u know??? :eek: u are her boyfriend at home? :confused:

Dun be confused.. I know the true but the truth..:rolleyes:

[Fishcer]

Yes, agree with Bro IK.

The girls loves you.

She lied to you because she is afraid to lose you.

You not yandao, no car, no house, no money. Now she is willing to pay for your expenses. Where to find this kind of lobang?

Pls marry her.:D

Lol...u talking to me?? :p

[HCKing]

thx to all bro's advices,be it neg n positive.i have thought hard aft reading all your comments.anyway,she's aldy went back to china so we wont meet for quite sometime.during this time,i shall see how things go.all the better if she mia.if she still contact with me,i shall see how things go.seriously speaking,i have not been in many relationships,but she is the gal who really treats me the best n the only gal to make mehave intention of marriage(which i nv tot b4).even if really marry,she aldy mention give ourselves ard 2 yrs time..2 yrs is quite a long time down.if she's really done all things n only motive is for PR status,which i find it hard to believe,i got nth to say n shall resign to my fate..

she is the gal who really treats u the best? since u oredi said in yr earlier post u hv caught her lying to u many times wat makes u thinks her treatment isnt just another lie? be careful bro, cos once the hot treatment is over and the cold treatment sets in u will be totally at her mercy. get really for emotional turmoils coming yr way real soon.:p

[eRicKz]

thx to all bro's advices,be it neg n positive.i have thought hard aft reading all your comments.anyway,she's aldy went back to china so we wont meet for quite sometime.during this time,i shall see how things go.all the better if she mia.if she still contact with me,i shall see how things go.seriously speaking,i have not been in many relationships,but she is the gal who really treats me the best n the only gal to make mehave intention of marriage(which i nv tot b4).even if really marry,she aldy mention give ourselves ard 2 yrs time..2 yrs is quite a long time down.if she's really done all things n only motive is for PR status,which i find it hard to believe,i got nth to say n shall resign to my fate..

aiyo bro, just follow ur heart lah.. as someone aldy mentioned, nowadays even wif sg gal, especially the younger ones (80s/ 90s), there is also the possibility of divorce wat.. and u also say u no house no money, so you won't lose much also, maybe just a PR cert for the PRC gal only (but that is at the expense of the PAP govt wat).. since they now encouraging FTs, so we give them FTs lor.. end of the day, you only got 1 life to live, just follow your heart and do what you feel you want to do. if it turns out to be a mistake, then just learn from it and move on.. life's all about mistakes mah.. important thing is MUST be able to move on with life.. OK bor... think hard and take care..

[basic]

go prc pay her a surprise visit see she got bf a not. visit her parents as well. alternatively hire a pi to check on her if u rich

[eRicKz]

go prc pay her a surprise visit see she got bf a not. visit her parents as well. alternatively hire a pi to check on her if u rich

Siao.. not worth it lah bro.. Pay visit to have fun with her is okay, but no need to check or investigate or do anything else plsss ... Just remember, KC a bit is okay but pls don't fall so deep into this. We all just want to have fun while we can, but pls bear in mind not to turn the fun into a consideration of marriage.

To me, marriage is not just simply about love. Marriage is about starting a family, having kids, grooming your kids into adults and watching your kids excel in life. So the partner you chose to accomplish this enormous task is very important. Just remember, marriage is not just about 2 persons, it will decide the future of your kids too. Pls bear this in mind.

[owl888]

TS. Tis may sound offending but it's actual fact. Imagine after u marry her, then u got no $$$ to support her then she had to continue working in KTV. Every nite u have to sleep alone and she only came back home till the wee hours. Everytime u ask for sexx, she'll give u all sorts of excuses like tired, no mood, etc.....And she stops giving u pocket money. Worse u always find semen stains on her undies everytime u washes her clothes....(most likely u'll wash her bra and undies:D )!

[basic]

if poor u no money to support her
if rich scared she cheat your money
left cannot right cannot how?
middle income

[lovetogive]

thx to all bro's advices,be it neg n positive.i have thought hard aft reading all your comments.anyway,she's aldy went back to china so we wont meet for quite sometime.during this time,i shall see how things go.all the better if she mia.if she still contact with me,i shall see how things go.seriously speaking,i have not been in many relationships,but she is the gal who really treats me the best n the only gal to make mehave intention of marriage(which i nv tot b4).even if really marry,she aldy mention give ourselves ard 2 yrs time..2 yrs is quite a long time down.if she's really done all things n only motive is for PR status,which i find it hard to believe,i got nth to say n shall resign to my fate..

Bro,

Go China look for her. See her family and you will know why she's in Singapore working in KTV. Once in KTV, these PRC can easily made between 8-12k a month, going to bed with a few selected carrot heads. You think they will settle for anything less in future? If you start making easy money in the early stage of your life, you will not settled for anything lesser.

That is why Singapore has a lot of PRC working as volunteered whores. Unlike the early years here you have to keep mistress, there are so many cheap and good fxxk in Singapore and The Greater China now.

You can only be with her if you can fully understand the situation that she needs to made the money you can't give her. Stay with her to enjoy all the love but don't talk about getting married and never obstruct her from making her money. goodluck

[bonkster]

Imagine after u marry her, then u got no $$$ to support her then she had to continue working in KTV. Every nite u have to sleep alone and she only came back home till the wee hours. Everytime u ask for sexx, she'll give u all sorts of excuses like tired, no mood, etc.....And she stops giving u pocket money. Worse u always find semen stains on her undies everytime u washes her clothes....(most likely u'll wash her bra and undies:D )!

With the picture u paint, i can't help but shed a few tears for bros who want to marry a working girl :(

To be honest, I only know 3 bros who married KTV gals. 2 'chop chop' married, 'chop chop' divorced. 1 still happily married, but in his case, the gal used her savings to pay for his loan shark debts, so i guess he is her bitch for a long time to come. :D Hope TS is blessed with good luck...because u really need a lot of luck when u marry a KTV gal :p

[newbieboy]

you already bought the gifts then 180 degrees turnaround say you poor... did you manage to pull that off convincingly or not... by missing out details such as prices and loan amounts a bit hard to analyse for you... :p

[joew2005]

It ain't over till it's over .....
If ts had wanted 2 end it,he would hv ended it earlier.
he is trying 2 get some "positive" support here .....
I suggest ts 2 go with his heart.
if he don't get hurt,he nvr learn ... the hard & painful way.

[cavalry]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek:

Are you nuts? Just fuck her and move on to the next one.

QFT! The best and most honest reply so far.

[shctaw]

Fuck her and see whether she want money....

If she want money; she is a GREEDY BITCH. Move on.

If she do not want money; she is a DUMB BITCH. Move on.

This apply to worldwide bitch.:cool:

[SpIkEY]

Fuck her and see whether she want money....

If she want money; she is a GREEDY BITCH. Move on.

If she do not want money; she is a DUMB BITCH. Move on.

This apply to worldwide bitch.:cool:

Fully Agree with ya bro ..Well said ..;)

[V|ernar]

Fully Agree with ya bro ..Well said ..;)

ok , this is good ~! lol

[newhunter]

i think sg guys pair with malaysian girls the success rate is higher than PRC

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

i think sg guys pair with malaysian girls the success rate is higher than PRC

I agreed. Malaysian girls slightly 有情有义 than PRC meimeis ;)

[sun814]

I agreed. Malaysian girls slightly 有情有义 than PRC meimeis ;)

but i think malaysian girls, their 气质 is way below the PRCs, an less cultured.

[newhunter]

yeah i think PRC 气质 is better

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

but i think malaysian girls, their 气质 is way below the PRCs, an less cultured.

I agreed on this 气质 quality ;)
As for being cultured, it kinda of subjective though.
Again: We are referring to the KTV/HFJ girls only as per thread title.
Btw, how often do we hear PRC meimeis saying: 谢谢 as compared with Viets and Thais WL/FL/KTV/HFJ?

[joew2005]

气质 is something tat the tkm knows hw 2 fake it out,whereas not much my gals knws it.
not 4getting alot of tkm r veri veri good actresses. :rolleyes:

[newhunter]

what is TKM?

[sun814]

气质 is something tat the tkm knows hw 2 fake it out,whereas not much my gals knws it.
not 4getting alot of tkm r veri veri good actresses. :rolleyes:

just like the singapore, malaysian, thais, vietnamnese ... the list goes on n on, and u u think which country's girls don't 'act' to get the man they want, just like we man will 'sian' our way to get the woman we want. 气质 is not something u can easily fake lah, i think it is something inborn.

[sun814]

what is TKM?

tiong kok mei, china girls.

[alan0338]

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[joew2005]

just like the singapore, malaysian, thais, vietnamnese ... the list goes on n on, and u u think which country's girls don't 'act' to get the man they want, just like we man will 'sian' our way to get the woman we want. 气质 is not something u can easily fake lah, i think it is something inborn.

why do tkm has inborn 气质 in them, when some of them weren't even born in the big cities.
they learn hw 2 give out 气质 when they were working in the urban cities in prc.
2 act 2 get the man they 1 is 1 thing, but it has go nothing 2 do with inborn 气质.
气质 is something u need 2 cultivate or learn ... as 1 grows up.

[boreland]

气质 is class? elegant? is there a specific word or two to describe it?

[loveWNBA]

I met this gal at a ktv(not sleazy type where the gals only acc u drink,sing,chat n play games).She was here on singer pass where she can stay for 6 mths.After 2 mths of pursue,she agreed to be my gf.

I must admit intially i only tot of bedding her,therefore i bought gifts to please her,all of which only during courtship but human are not without feelings.I find myself falling in love with her,which was the happiest days of my life.

However,sweet times were never lasting.I later realised tat she had lied to me on few occasions n i was darn angry n sad.Even thou i forgive her,i told to get out of this relationship "emotionally",meaning i withdraw my feeling for her but i still get to satisfy my sexual needs.

After some time,i realise this is quite impossible.I cant control my feelings for her,which grew stronger n stronger.Thus,i try to make her break off with me.I told her i'm actually a very poor man,with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses so i cant give her tips when i visit her.She actually didnt mind!She even bought me an expensive gift for my birthday!

That was not all.She even ask me whether i have enff $ for daily expenses.I tot she jus say so i told her to borrow me $ which she really did n told me no need to return.Even when we go out,she would pay for meals n even hotel expenses..She says she loves me n my financial status is not impt..

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

Bro, I am in no position to judge but please beware, if you do not have all the Cs that a basic gal wants, that means there is only 2 possibility, one she really loves you or just wants companion, two is she wants to marry and get PR here and all that shit. Let me tell you my experience and you judge for yourself why I made that particular choice, about me, I am single, mid 30s , drive and live alone in a 2 bedroom condo in th east.

I am now retired from local KTV scene as posted out of SG but back in my days still in SG, I can tell you my very interesting encounters which might make the envy of many others...

In my line of work, my company had corp accounts with all the major KTVs(the 5 floors,LIDO,etc). Basically I had entertainment every night on week days, my colleagues and were regular faces at these joints, every mamasan and papasan welcome us with open arms cos they know I don't give a damn about bills when all is charged to company.

Now I always had a few regular girls who will sit with me, and as time goes by, we had a sick habit on friday nights, after KTV session, we 100% must go out cheong...and it is not just with 1 girl, with a whole bunch of them btw.

Now there was this particular gal A(FUJIAN), she always follow me home on Friday nights and even have clothes at my place...we would bonk and go on dates just like normal couples and I NEVER had to pay a single cent.

Then came gal B(SHENYANG), who said she always had a crsuh on me, but we never did FJ before just the usual BJ stuff...then one day she goes back China and returns 3 months later, upon touch down she immediately come my place and we bonked all night(pretty amazing after BBJ for 3 months). Again this gal never once talked about money.

Then came gal C(HUNAN mei)....she was the best F-buddy I ever had....had the sickest momenst of my life with this little PRC bitch...I could sense she wanted more than sex but I always kept a good distance, acting cold when it came to anything regarding committment. She tells me every girl in the KTVs from 1st to 5th floor are eyeing me cos of my financial status and the fact that I am SINGLE...I appreciated this and we actually got very close as time went by...to the point like we are like a couple. I brought her on business trips and did the CRAZIEST stuff ever...I let her stay my place even and she stopped working(I will leave $50 everyday at home), i completely cut off the ONS with A and B(and actually a handful more but not worth my time mentioning). We were bonking RAW, loading in her womanhood and freaking mouth....of cos eventually she must get pregnant. So the day came and she tells me she is pregnant, I was stunned, from one thing escalate to another..she asked me why all these while I never ever intro her to any of my friends. Then it struck me, there is no way we can ever be together, the gap in culture and social standings(which I hate to admit is ugly but true...how to intro to my friends and colleagues when immediately they will know itz KTV gal)...I couldn't sleep for days and I had to ask her, what does she want? She says she hopes but won't force me...that I can marry her and give her a shot at a new life. I will not deny that I have feelings for her as well but too many facts crossed my mind for the next 1 week or so....is this a plot?is she after my money?ok,we get married and then what...do I give everything up and help her send money home(or why she work in SG)...I weighed the pros and cons and eventually made a decision which I still am not sure til today is right or wrong.

I asked her go for abortion and 1 week later(I made sure she was doing ok physically) I immediately broke off with her, telling her this "We never should have got serious"....and immediately to act like bastard I started going back to the same KTVs to bonk more girls as I knew her friends still work there and will tell her, I just want her forget me.

Bro, sum it up....I was in love as well...but reality bites, for myself I am financially sound and still I think marrying a KTV girl is impossible cos of all the reasons I mentioned. As for yourself you mentioned yo are "poor"...do you really think this will work out then? It migt be sweet initially but when $ problems arises...how?!?!Or what if one of your relatives or friends recognise her as a KTV gal from her past? All these..did u consider?

[yahooboy]

tiong kok mei, china girls.

should be TKB = tiong kok bu

[Schenker]

hi fabregas1981,as u had mentioned ... u r not handsome,don't own a flat,don't own a car or earn much $. so what do u think makes her fall 4 u .... with real feelings?

she sees some usefulness in u 2 her.

Definitely!!!

A easy passage to obtain SPR. :D

[alan0338]

I am now retired from local KTV scene as posted out of SG but back in my days still in SG, I can tell you my very interesting encounters which might make the envy of many others...


kamsia for sharing ur story .... u really tough nut to crack, can survive so many onslaught from the gals hehe :D :D

[loveWNBA]

kamsia for sharing ur story .... u really tough nut to crack, can survive so many onslaught from the gals hehe :D :D

bro, after a marriage which last under 12 months(not to mention 3 years of dating her).....I become kind of seasoned liao. Plus most Asian cities I get posted too all have KTV.....I think if I am a good crossdresser I sure become a damn successful KTV gal 1....every of their silly sales pitch i also know..before they finish the 3rd sentence I already summarised for them in my head liao!haha!

My only damn weakness is when the gal gives good BBBJ and CIM....I sure end up contacting her for at least 1 month! I must conquer this weakness!!hahaha

[aakumu]

I met this gal at a ktv(not sleazy type where the gals only acc u drink,sing,chat n play games).She was here on singer pass where she can stay for 6 mths.After 2 mths of pursue,she agreed to be my gf.

I must admit intially i only tot of bedding her,therefore i bought gifts to please her,all of which only during courtship but human are not without feelings.I find myself falling in love with her,which was the happiest days of my life.

However,sweet times were never lasting.I later realised tat she had lied to me on few occasions n i was darn angry n sad.Even thou i forgive her,i told to get out of this relationship "emotionally",meaning i withdraw my feeling for her but i still get to satisfy my sexual needs.

After some time,i realise this is quite impossible.I cant control my feelings for her,which grew stronger n stronger.Thus,i try to make her break off with me.I told her i'm actually a very poor man,with no savings n now even have prob with my daily expenses so i cant give her tips when i visit her.She actually didnt mind!She even bought me an expensive gift for my birthday!

That was not all.She even ask me whether i have enff $ for daily expenses.I tot she jus say so i told her to borrow me $ which she really did n told me no need to return.Even when we go out,she would pay for meals n even hotel expenses..She says she loves me n my financial status is not impt..

I'm very confused now.I really love her a lot n actually tot of marrying her but she had ever lied to me for many times,resulting me always having doubts on her words credibility.

I'm not yandao,dun own flat n car,dun earn much so i dunno whether her feelings for me are real..Pls advice..

Hi bro,
I think you are very insecure, if you truly have nothing that she could get from you, then what is the problem?
You will in trouble if you think she is after something that you have.
Put the shoe on the other foot, what if she goes out to work; makes a lot of money and is just happy to have you along as a "male mistress", pardon the language.
Is it possible that you are her release from the everyday grinds.............?
If men with money could have mistress, why can't women?
Mistress are not only great in bed but also a good listener.
If she feels you fit requirements, she have every right to support you.
There is no right or wrong, is only your ego can or not take the fact that she is earning other man's money to support you.

My humble two cents.

[xxking]

TS they either love your $$ or your status, or both; Maybe she really loves you but possibility <0.1%, if you hit the 0.1% you are lucky like hitting the jackpot.

Before making any decision, maybe you can go back to her hometown with her and see how you will be treat there if you want on, otherwise off :p

[rawcommando]

jus my 2cts,

ive had friends, typical average singaporean man, jus a small car, about 50k income, who happily married ktv girls. but 1 thing in common, i observed. these woman all are willing to stop working and give birth, start a proper familyand that is never easy to do.

myself, in midst of divorcing my PRC wife of 3yrs. we actually broke up 8mths into the marriage. when we had a child after 6mths of marriage, she din wan it. she wanted to continue working.

think about it, an average ktv gal (including dinosaurs) can make 5k (15000rmb) a month easily. in 2yrs time, they would have purchased a house in PRC and fully paidup. the average singaporean guy can never give them that.
the average income working in PRC for a white collar is only 2500rmb. they need to work 10yrs or more to achieve wat they can in SG in 2yrs.

the gal may stick with you now coz for companionship, or perhaps shes got genuine feelings for you. but reality will bite 1 day.

i strongly suggest you try to get back on ur life 1st, at least not debt ridden, or disillusioned. you cant even start a proper family with her now. at least if she REALLY DO LOVE you, you wont need her to suffer together with you. this applies not to PRC woman, it applies to all woman.

cheers

[DarthVader63]

The chance of a lady of the night, be it just a singer or a hostess falling in love is very slim. It is not impossible, but it is very slim.

The chances are higher than striking 4D

[joew2005]

the true will hurt ..... but we hv 2 live with the true facts of life.

[fabregas1981]

thanks to all the advices to all the bros here...she's gone back to china n we still contact daily through whatsapp n phone call every 2 days...perhaps some of u r right,tat i shouldnt carry on since i dun have the ability to support her...i will still keep in contact with her n c how things go..in my heart,i oso hope she will break off with me 1 day so tat i can stop this..but feelings r really hard to control..i will see wat holds for me in time down the road...


appreciate ur advices...

[basic]

If u r serious with her discuss e $ ¥ issue with her

[Ken79]

In China if you want to marry pls get 3 things ready first

House - 200-300k sgd for a 100-120sqm 3 bedroom condo
Car - 20k sgd for normal sedan
Dowry - Depends on how greedy her parents are, no such thing as they wont be greedy as they'd tell you that they raised up their daughter for so long and cannot let you 'take her away from them' cheaply.

[fabregas1981]

actually,we have never discussed anything abt $ till now.initially she did ask for gifts but aft she know my financial status,it was her instead who bought me gifts.she also pays most of the time when we go out...

[Stud00]

Dear TS,

i couldn't be bothered to read your entire post, and thread.
But just from your title..

PLEASE.. get a life.. you are not that dumb to marry her?