In Love with a Chinese CAT150 Girl. Is it Possible to bring her to Singapore & Marry?

[kurenaine]

Just a little background. She has previously worked in Geylang last year. She was one of the more angpai wl with a fabulous figure. She and I were just friends and remained so when she returned to China last year.

However, I started to talk to her more and more on QQ, and soon over the phone. I was seconded to china for a long business trip last year, and things started to develop and we are truely in love. We really want to get married and have kids.

Now that I have to return to Singapore, is there any way that she is able to come back to Singapore with me? Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever. Hope any kind samsters will be able to advise.

Heartfelt thanks in advance.

[sammyboyfor]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek: Are you nuts?

Your children will curse you forever!:rolleyes:

[F-boy]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek: Are you nuts?

Your children will curse you forever!:rolleyes:

Boss, technically she is an ex whore :D

[joew2005]

hello kurenaine, care 2 explain wat makes u think tat u guys r "truely in love" ?
so fast 1 2 talk abt marriage & children.
can u realli take it tat she's an ex wl ?

[F-boy]

hello kurenaine, care 2 explain wat makes u think tat u guys r "truely in love" ?
so fast 1 2 talk abt marriage & children.
can u realli take it tat she's an ex wl ?

Kindly address your questions to the small head...obviously the small head is in control.

[sammyboyfor]

Boss, technically she is an ex whore :D

Once a whore, always a whore. :rolleyes: All she's doing is changing the contract from an hourly rental agreement to a long term lease. :p

During the period of the lease, if she decides she's not getting a sufficient return on investment, she'll start doing hourly rentals on the quiet to supplement her income.

Once a female has sold her cunt once, she'll have no qualms about doing again and again as long as there's still a demand. To them, it's nothing more than a business transaction... a means of paying for that new LV bag or Cartier watch. A marriage certificate doesn't change a thing.

[wantanabee]

you need blood to run your brain, not your sperm.

[jasdude]

Hard to swallow facts from bros above , the truth hurts . Think once , think twice ; think lots and lots whether you can swallow the facts and live with her and her past .


Good Luck .

[smartke]

Once a whore, always a whore. :rolleyes: All she's doing is changing the contract from an hourly rental agreement to a long term lease.

Bitch is a bitch, slut is a slut, whore is always a whore... :D
The similarity? Fxxked by [m]any guys... :eek:
The difference? Character, probably? :p

[roadster33]

Just a little background. She has previously worked in Geylang last year. She was one of the more angpai wl with a fabulous figure. She and I were just friends and remained so when she returned to China last year.

However, I started to talk to her more and more on QQ, and soon over the phone. I was seconded to china for a long business trip last year, and things started to develop and we are truely in love. We really want to get married and have kids.

Now that I have to return to Singapore, is there any way that she is able to come back to Singapore with me? Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever. Hope any kind samsters will be able to advise.

Heartfelt thanks in advance.

no money no love,some more so far away,culture n upbringing so different,u will suffer n regret in future!wake up bro,there are so much better gals in sg,dont make life difficult for urself!

[F-boy]

Bitch is a bitch, slut is a slut, whore is always a whore... :D
The similarity? Fxxked by [m]any guys... :eek:
The difference? Character, probably? :p

bitch does not fit into this context (loose woman).
bitch refers to an difficult female, not necessary the wanton kind...

slut and whore similarity is fucked by many but usually the meaning of whore means you got to pay to fuck her.

[smartke]

bitch does not fit into this context (loose woman).
bitch refers to an difficult female, not necessary the wanton kind...

slut and whore similarity is fucked by many but usually the meaning of whore means you got to pay to fuck her.

it's jus a small similarity... ;)

Quoted from WIKIPEDIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch_(insult))

"Its original use as a vulgarism, documented to the fourteenth century, suggested high sexual desire in a woman, comparable to a dog in heat."

[RealEstateGuy]

Just a little background. She has previously worked in Geylang last year. She was one of the more angpai wl with a fabulous figure. She and I were just friends and remained so when she returned to China last year.

However, I started to talk to her more and more on QQ, and soon over the phone. I was seconded to china for a long business trip last year, and things started to develop and we are truely in love. We really want to get married and have kids.

Now that I have to return to Singapore, is there any way that she is able to come back to Singapore with me? Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever. Hope any kind samsters will be able to advise.

Heartfelt thanks in advance.

Braddah, suppose its real love. Braddah, then why the rush to get married?

[nbaccb]

Dude.... Defintely not a good idea. In case, you are not aware marriage and the Women's Charter in Singapore in not in the favour of males. Coupled with the fact that she comes from a totally different background and culture.

This is a nuclear bomb waiting to blow up. For your sake, please do a sanity check and reconsider.

If it is really true love, there is no hurry.

[sgjoey]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek: Are you nuts?

Your children will curse you forever!:rolleyes:

At the other extreme, marrying a Madonna may be just as bad.

Problem is, all husbands want their wives to be Madonnas to other men but behave like whores to their spouses. This, unfortunately, is quite unrealistic, and many women in fact turn out to be Madonnas even to their husbands after a few years of marriage.

Which is why this website is flourishing. :D

[arsenal_84]

time can only tell if she is of marriage material...so take your time then.

[meteora]

time can only tell if she is of marriage material...so take your time then.

Thanks to all bros for their valuable inputs. I really do know my heart. and I will be back in Singapore soon, and cant bear to leave her. That is why im asking if theres any way she can come back with me.

[owl888]

TS may b u like the fxxking as she's very experienced. I'm sure u can find another comparable or better quality in GL easily. Very soon, u'll forget her!

[sammyboyfor]

and cant bear to leave her. That is why im asking if theres any way she can come back with me.

Take my very sound advice... leave her BEFORE SHE LEAVES YOU!:eek:

No whore is going to hang around with you forever. They're always eyeing a bigger catch.

[joew2005]

Kindly address your questions to the small head...obviously the small head is in control.

quite immpossible 2 address questions 2 the small head ...
becos IT never listens 2 the big head & always overrule the big head.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

good luck to u bro. What needs to be said has been said. Just don't regret the decision u are going to make in the future. :cool:

[sun814]

all bros here talk about the negative aspects, which i would agree to a certain extent (i am marry with an ex-fl for 2.5 years now after knowing her for 3 years), but no one seems to address his question of whether is it possible to bring her back to singapore, which i think is a "NO, NO", right?

[Iemanishere]

Bro, u must have a nut loose somewhere..... Play all u want with marriage is just going to tie u down with her with lots of problems to come.. I know they are more pretty than our local girls, but play smart with ur big head not small one bro.. If you can't.. I pray for you... Amen

[Schenker]

all bros here talk about the negative aspects, which i would agree to a certain extent (i am marry with an ex-fl for 2.5 years now after knowing her for 3 years), but no one seems to address his question of whether is it possible to bring her back to singapore, which i think is a "NO, NO", right?

I always address this vital issue, minus the advice of relationship blah blah.

But the person involved could be not in his right mind, or that his thoughts are being heavily clouded. He would be probably laying his last bargaining chip, if any, to cross the first hurdle, not knowing there are many hurdles in front of him.

Btw sun814, how's yr marriage life huh? :D

[goodpartner]

Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever.

Smart to register a new nick to ask such questions ;)

I guess there'll never be a definitely yes/no answer for such question since depends on how hard you try. Those who managed a "yes" must have gone through a lot, so the question remains why go through it and be ridicule if you've a choice?

So the answer to your main question is YES, maybe.
Given this answer, what's your next question? ;)

[Gl_lover07]

Hi bro meteora.

I understand from an ex cat 150 gal that her ex colleague got a singaporean man wants to marry her. They apply from ICA for permission to get married and got rejected. Hope it might help you.

[V|ernar]

If given another chance , I will never marry a prc WL . First five years is ok , great sex , great cooking , great wife . The citizenship in hand , everything change , go think about it . It not worth the risk and splitting half of your wealth to her . Your doubt will rise when she happen to be busy to pick up the phone , what will you think ?

It take years to know a person , how well you know her ?

Who you want to marry , the govt can't stop you , it your choice who you want to marry . There are mean and way to bring her back to our land .

I suggest if you really want to marry her , get married in china and born a few kids then bring her back with the kids . Can't enter our soil ? You do biz , don't need I teach you ba ? There is a loophole and apply visa in china is much easy then in Singapore .

[jackygogogo]

Bro Kurenaine,

If she was working officially as a prostitute in Singapore, then there's no way she can re-enter our land, let alone marrying her here. The fact that you are looking for an answer here shows how lost/naive you are. I have seen too many friends' lives wrecked by whores, ex-whores and whores-to-be. She makes you feel good cos her ex-job scope was to make a man feel good. 婊子无情 戏子无义. It is never too late to walk away.

No offense. Just my two cents worth.

[sammyboyfor]

I have seen too many friends' lives wrecked by whores, ex-whores and whores-to-be.


Here's another sucker. The mainstream press is finally playing its part in exposing these bitches for what they are. I no longer have to fight the battle alone.... :p

A 45-year-old security guard, Mr Lin, thought he had married the woman of his dreams, only to find out later that she was a prostitute.

The couple got to know each other through a marriage and dating agency.

After meeting his wife, a divorcee from China for three times, they decided to register their marriage.

However, before they had a chance to consummate their marriage, Mr Lin was shocked to be informed that his wife was arrested for prostituting in Geylang.

"I was looking for companionship and she looked very demure. We had a lot to talk about and got along well", said Mr Lin.

Although they only met thrice consecutively over 3 days, he was swept off his feet by her sweet talk and they decided to get married.

Mr Lin said that although they registered their marriage on 5 July 2010, they did not live together.

After his bride got approval to extend her stay in Singapore, she became cold towards Mr Lin and they only met four times thereafter.

It was only in 7 January this year that he received a call from the police where he learnt that his wife was arrested for illegal prostitution and deported back to China.

"Police said that she was caught in Geylang, and a "client" testified that she was prostituting. I never expected that I would marry a prostitute." said Mr Lin.

Shin Min Daily News, 4.11.2011.

[joew2005]

marriage is not a game ..... don't jump the gun.
it ain't over till it's over ... & it will be over 1s she gets wat she 1s.

[sun814]

I always address this vital issue, minus the advice of relationship blah blah.

But the person involved could be not in his right mind, or that his thoughts are being heavily clouded. He would be probably laying his last bargaining chip, if any, to cross the first hurdle, not knowing there are many hurdles in front of him.

Btw sun814, how's yr marriage life huh? :D

haha, there are ups and downs with my marriage life, but overall everything is going on fine. she is the average housewife that you can find in any neighbourhood, except for the occasional lustful stares from men (as she keeps her figure and shape well). she is very spend-thrift and really puts the family's interest in the first place at all times. i believe i am really fortunate to have marry her.

[Istrike4D]

You want to marry a WHORE????:eek: Are you nuts?

Your children will curse you forever!

Once a whore, always a whore. :rolleyes: All she's doing is changing the contract from an hourly rental agreement to a long term lease. :p

During the period of the lease, if she decides she's not getting a sufficient return on investment, she'll start doing hourly rentals on the quiet to supplement her income.

Once a female has sold her cunt once, she'll have no qualms about doing again and again as long as there's still a demand. To them, it's nothing more than a business transaction... a means of paying for that new LV bag or Cartier watch. A marriage certificate doesn't change a thing.

Take my very sound advice... leave her BEFORE SHE LEAVES YOU!

No whore is going to hang around with you forever. They're always eyeing a bigger catch.

Here's another sucker. The mainstream press is finally playing its part in exposing these bitches for what they are. I no longer have to fight the battle alone

Sammyboy (I don't understand why some people must be so unnecessarily subservient as to call you boss here)

You are very opinionated against prostitutes. Are you the son of one or you married one and got played out? Please man, give people a chance to survive lah!

[sammyboyfor]

You are very opinionated against prostitutes. Are you the son of one or you married one and got played out? Please man, give people a chance to survive lah!

I'll answer this question with a question....why are you offended by my views regarding whores? Have I touched a nerve somewhere?:rolleyes:

I'm far more concerned about the survival of my fellow Singaporeans than I am about the welfare of some foreign trash whores. I have no wish to see my countrymen being swindled and emotionally devastated by these filthy, selfish low life who have no morals, no self respect and absolutely no consideration for those whose lives they destroy in their pursuit of $$$$.

[sun814]

I'll answer this question with a question....why are you offended by my views regarding whores? Have I touched a nerve somewhere?:rolleyes:

I'm far more concerned about the survival of my fellow Singaporeans than I am about the welfare of some foreign trash whores. I have no wish to see my countrymen being swindled and emotionally devastated by these filthy, selfish low life who have no morals, no self respect and absolutely no consideration for those whose lives they destroy in their pursuit of $$$$.

haha, even though i marry one ex-fl, i am not really affected or offended by your opinion though, as believe i have married the 0.01% who is not out to swindle my $$$ or have no qualms about sleeping with another men. so

[joker88]

Just a little background. She has previously worked in Geylang .......................... We really want to get married and have kids.

Now that I have to return to Singapore, is there any way that she is able to come back to Singapore with me? Do any brothers have known any circumstances under which a ex-WL is able to come back to Singapore despite have worked in Geylang. Or are they banned from Singapore forever. Hope any kind samsters will be able to advise.

Heartfelt thanks in advance.

Bro kurenaine or meteora, the answer you want is in my previous post below.
My advice is: Think carefully about the consequences.

If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.

The reason for this rule is quite obvious.
The Singapore authorities do no want Singaporean men to marry them without thinking seriously and then regret later.
This will cause alot of social problems for the Singapore govt.
Govt also do not want Singaporean men to be conned by these WLs.

You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.

Cheers and go luck! :)

Bro, you are right. If sinkie men can bao WL in Singapore, then AWARE will pressure the govt to stop all these PRC WLs from coming here liao.

No customer is allowed to have special arrangement with the OKT to keep the WL for his own private use.
Any such agreement with the OKT is illegal and the OKT is in breach of contract in his licence agreement with AV.
The OKT is to ensure that all his WLs do not go out with customers, do not go to hotels, motels or any other public accomodations, do not solicit for biz near or inside places of entertainment, eg. KTV, pubs, bars, casinos, etc.

When a WL cancel her yellow card (only on Wed) she has to leave Singapore within 3 days, ie. by Sat in the same week. ;)

That is why no customer is able to ask the WL to leave her OKT and stay in Singapore as his mistress no matter how rich and famous he is.

The onus is on the OKT to inform AV if such things occur failing which the OKT will be in breach of contract and be prepared for punitive action against him.

The only way is to give her money to return to China and be your mistress.
Keeping her in the house as a WL but not serving customers is illegal and the OKT will get his lic suspended for first offender and repeated offender will get his lic cancelled. :eek:

BTW, if a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.
After the two years, she has to apply to come to Singapore and this is subjected to approval by the Singapore courts.
Usually not approved except for very special case, quite obvious lah.

Their fingerprints were recorded by immigration when they come and they cannot come back again using fake passports.

So the verdict is: No PRC WL as wife or mistress here. Only in China. :(

[goodpartner]

'If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.
:
:
You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.


Now, if this is true, I guess this rule applies to all those CATXX WL as well. :rolleyes:

If this is a FACT for working as a "Legal" WL in Sg, then this information should be part of the sticky thread or under Sammyboyfor's siggy too. Personally, I think it's a big deterrent factor to any bro thinking they can overcome the oughts to marry an ex-WL and have long-term plans despite the naysayings on other areas.

Also, if this is true, I presume that those "success stories" of bros who married an ex-WL did so with one that's NOT from the "legal house" right? Those who work here illegally were not subjected to this terms & condition like them :rolleyes:

Furthermore, those bros who had divorced one (who was a "legal" ex-WL) should not be subjected to the Sg Women Charter, since the marriage is not recognized in Sg court.

Bro Joker88, how certain are you with your "facts"?

[joker88]

Now, if this is true, I guess this rule applies to all those CATXX WL as well. :rolleyes:

If this is a FACT for working as a "Legal" WL in Sg, then ..............

Also, if this is true, I presume that those "success stories" of bros who married an ex-WL did so with one that's NOT from the "legal house" right? Those who work here illegally were not subjected to this terms & condition like them :rolleyes:

Furthermore, those bros who had divorced one (who was a "legal" ex-WL) should not be subjected to the Sg Women Charter, since the marriage is not recognized in Sg court.

Bro Joker88, how certain are you with your "facts"?

This applies to all yellow-card workers in SIN not only in GL.
Recently one ex-GL WL working at Petain Rd was caught with a cust during a hotel raid and she was deported immediately.

Please be mindful that we are toking abt SIN citizens only. You can marry them if you are a PR and not a SIN citizen.

Actually this info is widely known to all the WLs and OKTs in GL.
They have to sign undertaking papers at AV and ICA before they start.
The stamp in the WL's passport will hinder her future VISA application to come here.

You can ask any WL or OKT and they can tell you.
Of course, sometimes they may not want to tell you everything or even mislead you becos they dun know who you are.

By the way, when ppl tell you "married" or "divorced" an ex-WL, there are many doubts.
They maybe staying together but not legally married as in having a legal married cert endorsed by ROM.
As such, if they are not legally married, then they cannot be legally divorced also.
Also, the men involved in these cases may be PR and not SIN citizens.

By the way, if an ex-WL applies to marry a SIN citizen in China, the Chinese authorities will check with the SIN embassy if this guy is married in SIN to prevent bigamy.
In the process, the SIN embassy will notify them that the SIN govt will not recognised this marriage.
It is then up to the Chinses authorities whether they will approve this application of the union of two lovebirds. :D

Cheers and happy bonking! :)

[goodpartner]

This applies to all yellow-card workers in SIN not only in GL.

Please be mindful that we are toking abt SIN citizens only. You can marry them if you are a PR and not a SIN citizen.

Actually this info is widely known to all the WLs and OKTs in GL.
They have to sign undertaking papers at AV and ICA before they start.
The stamp in the WL's passport will hinder her future VISA application to come here.

You can ask any WL or OKT and they can tell you.


Ok then, this should be the final answer to TS's question : "In Love with a Chinese CAT150 Girl. Is it Possible to bring her to Singapore & Marry?"

If TS is a SG Society Citizen, then CANNOT marry her. :rolleyes:

[joew2005]

God help those that help themselve ...
if 1 doesn't even 1 2 help himself, then no 1(including god) can help him.

[joker88]

If given another chance , I will never marry a prc WL . First five years is ok , great sex , great cooking , great wife . The citizenship in hand , everything change , go think about it . It not worth the risk and splitting half of your wealth to her . Your doubt will rise when she happen to be busy to pick up the phone , what will you think ?

It take years to know a person , how well you know her ?

Who you want to marry , the govt can't stop you , it your choice who you want to marry. There are mean and way to bring her back to our land.

I suggest if you really want to marry her , get married in china and born a few kids then bring her back with the kids . Can't enter our soil ? You do biz , don't need I teach you ba ? There is a loophole and apply visa in china is much easy then in Singapore .

Bro, I agree with you abt splitting your assets with her. It is not worth taking the risk. It take yrs to know each other.

You say means and ways to bring her back. I presume you are referring to non-legal ways.
Unless you smuggled her as illegal immigrant, her fingerprints were recorded by ICA and there is no way she can get thru immigration even with fake passport.
Without proper identity card, are you sure you want your lover to live in fear everyday?

When a PRC apply VISA in China to enter SIN, the VISA is approved by the SIN embassy in China and it is not approved by the Chinese authorities.
The Chinese authorities has no say as to who is allowed to enter SIN.
That is why SIN govt wants all PRC to apply for VISA from ICA becos our govt wants to control who can come and who cannot come becos China is so............. big.
All PRCs also have to apply for VISA from Malaysian embassy in China if they want to go to Malaysia even as tourists.

If you fake the VISA, ICA will deport you when you try to enter SIN.
It does not matter which country this PRC apply his or her VISA to enter SIN.
The VISA application will only be approved by the SIN embassy there.

Her VISA application will be rejected if she was an ex-WL in SIN unless you have very very good reasons.
Coming here as student, or worker, or leisure, etc are not valid reasons for her anymore.

Singaporeans can enter and stay in China without VISA only for not more than 14 days.
However, you need to apply VISA to enter China if you want to stay for more than 14 days.
Your VISA will be processed and approved by the Chinese embassy here and not by ICA.
VISA applications are approved by the destination country and not by the country that you are residing.

[joker88]

all bros here talk about the negative aspects, which i would agree to a certain extent (i am marry with an [B]ex-FL /B] for 2.5 years now after knowing her for 3 years), but no one seems to address his question of whether is it possible to bring her back to singapore, which i think is a "NO, NO", right?

Bro, I am curious? Are you a Singaporean?

Is your "wife" an ex-FL or ex-WL? Ex-WL I mean yellow-card workers.
There is no ICA records for ex-FL.

I guess both of you are in China now, right?
Actually for ex-WL, they will have to explain to their PRC husbands next time why their VISA to enter SIN is rejected. :rolleyes:

Cheers! :D

[Schenker]

Singaporeans can enter and stay in China without VISA only for not more than 14 days.
However, you need to apply VISA to enter China if you want to stay for more than 14 days.
Your VISA will be processed and approved by the Chinese embassy here and not by ICA.
VISA applications are approved by the destination country and not by the country that you are residing.

Abit of correction, bro.

Citizens of Singapore may enter China without a visa for no more than 15 days.

I have stayed exactly 15 days in china w/o applying a visa. ;)

[joker88]

Abit of correction, bro.

Citizens of Singapore may enter China without a visa for no more than 15 days.

I have stayed exactly 15 days in china w/o applying a visa. ;)

Thanks for the correction. Type too fast. :)

Cheers! :D

[kurenaine]

Bro kurenaine or meteora, the answer you want is in my previous post below.
My advice is: Think carefully about the consequences.

If a PRC WL come to singapore as a yellow card worker, her contract is for two years.

She cannot marry any Singaporean for the rest of her life. No exceptions will be made by the Singapore courts.
If she leaves Singapore before the two years is up, she cannot come to Singapore again during this two years' period, not even as tourist.

This is the condition that she accepted when she apply to come here.

The reason for this rule is quite obvious.
The Singapore authorities do no want Singaporean men to marry them without thinking seriously and then regret later.
This will cause alot of social problems for the Singapore govt.
Govt also do not want Singaporean men to be conned by these WLs.

You can try to marry her outside Singapore but your marriage will not be recognised by the S'pore courts.

Cheers and go luck! :)

Hi bro

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply the email. Let's say if we do not get married, can she then come to Singapore after 2 year period is up?

[sun814]

Bro, I am curious? Are you a Singaporean?

Is your "wife" an ex-FL or ex-WL? Ex-WL I mean yellow-card workers.
There is no ICA records for ex-FL.

I guess both of you are in China now, right?
Actually for ex-WL, they will have to explain to their PRC husbands next time why their VISA to enter SIN is rejected. :rolleyes:

Cheers! :D

i am 100% singaporean, my wife without "" is an ex-fl, so ICA has no records of her, so we are staying happily in singapore now, and she's got her PR status.

[joker88]

haha, there are ups and downs ................ she is very spend-thrift and really puts the family's interest in the first place at all times. i believe i am really fortunate to have marry her.

i am 100% singaporean, my wife without "" is an ex-fl, so ICA has no records of her, so we are staying happily in singapore now, and she's got her PR status.

Dear bro sun814

Sorry for the "" for your wife. I type too fast. My apologies. :o

Since your wife is an ex-FL, then your case is not in the context of this discussion.
This is just her part-ime job and there are no records.
So for her case, ICA will not treat it as a special case. ;)

I wish you both a blissful marriage and be blessed with many kids. :D

You mentioned that she is "very spendthrift"? I think you are trying to say she is "very thrifty", is it?
I dun think you are trying to say she spend money extravagantly or improvidently, right?

BTW, why you did not apply for SIN citizenship for her since you are legally married?

Since you did not mention, I presume she did not come to SIN to work before that.
If she does, then the nature of her work permit is important though.

[joker88]

Hi bro
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply the email. Let's say if we do not get married, can she then come to Singapore after 2 year period is up?

Bro, getting married is the biz of two persons in love.

The marriage cert is although important in certain aspects, I think it is a piece of paper which does not change the facts.

Like what boss Sammy mentioned, the marriage is a change from hourly rental to long term lease.
I advise you to think carefully.

As I mentioned previously, after the 2 yr period is up, she can apply for re-entry to SIN at any SIN ambassy in China for VISA processing.
However, given her previous ICA records, the chances are very slim unless she has very very good reasons.
Even so, she can only stay here for not more than 14 days and someone has to be her guarantor and ensure that she dun engage in unlawful activities.
Who in his right mind would want to do that?

Actually I am curious as to why you would want her to come here.
There are hundreds of men here who know her for reasons obvious to you.
Are you sure you can take the mental stress and overcome your suspicion and jealousy.
It is almost certain that she will get in touch with some of them and you will be suspicious, jealous and mentally stress out.

Think carefully, bro. :D

I wish my own countrymen will not to be conned by them out of love.

[sun814]

Dear bro sun814

Sorry for the "" for your wife. I type too fast. My apologies. :o

Since your wife is an ex-FL, then your case is not in the context of this discussion.
This is just her part-ime job and there are no records.
So for her case, ICA will not treat it as a special case. ;)

I wish you both a blissful marriage and be blessed with many kids. :D

You mentioned that she is "very spendthrift"? I think you are trying to say she is "very thrifty", is it?
I dun think you are trying to say she spend money extravagantly or improvidently, right?

BTW, why you did not apply for SIN citizenship for her since you are legally married?

Since you did not mention, I presume she did not come to SIN to work before that.
If she does, then the nature of her work permit is important though.

haha sorry for the typo error, i m trying to say that she is very thrifty.

applying for citizenship is also not that easy, must get PR for at least 2 years (that's what the ICA letter states), but i don't think she wants singapore citizenship.

she was a pdmm on LTVP when i know her, so i have a step-daughter as well.

i know that wl and fl is different, so there is no ICA issues as long as she was not being caught before.

[sun814]

Actually I am curious as to why you would want her to come here.
There are hundreds of men here who know her for reasons obvious to you.
Are you sure you can take the mental stress and overcome your suspicion and jealousy.
It is almost certain that she will get in touch with some of them and you will be suspicious, jealous and mentally stress out.

Think carefully, bro. :D

I wish my own countrymen will not to be conned by them out of love.

haha, for me, i don't really care whether some men had known her before (so what??) she is now my wife legally, and in marriage or a "normal" relationship, mutual trust is of utmost importance, and is between 2 parties. won't give a damn if she met one men she knew. in fact i never mentioned her previous trade as a fl after i know her for some time till only a few months ago, where she casually mentioned it, actually i felt a sense of relief that we are able to talk about it. so ts, even if she is able to come back to singapore, if you don't have a heart and mental capacity as strong as mine, just give it up and move on ... even if both of you are truely in love with each other.

[joew2005]

whoa ... hope tat not all marriage r a change fr hourly rental 2 long term lease ...

[flcult]

TS, think I hv farked yr prospective bride on several occasions, she can really blow! Did my opening statement piss u off? Trust me, there'll be more to come from other brudders who actually bonked her. If u feel hurt, u r farked. If u r nt affected, then u prob dun luv her that much to give a damn.
U r In love so must get married? TS, u r one screwed up dude. Just enjoy the companionship first. See how yr "love" depreciates over time then decide if she is worth the effort. Marriage is all abt giving, not taking. Being with ex-WL is never a bed of roses, in yr case, it's all abt LOSING n not a chance of winning. Those who dun agree, who gives a tits-fark. Two words:grow up.

[sun814]

TS, think I hv farked yr prospective bride on several occasions, she can really blow! Did my opening statement piss u off? Trust me, there'll be more to come from other brudders who actually bonked her. If u feel hurt, u r farked. If u r nt affected, then u prob dun luv her that much to give a damn.
U r In love so must get married? TS, u r one screwed up dude. Just enjoy the companionship first. See how yr "love" depreciates over time then decide if she is worth the effort. Marriage is all abt giving, not taking. Being with ex-WL is never a bed of roses, in yr case, it's all abt LOSING n not a chance of winning. Those who dun agree, who gives a tits-fark. Two words:grow up.

you should grow up instead as u write like a ten year old, u talk about love but don't know how to accept a gal for who she is, including her past. u can only probably marry a virgin, but are u one in the first place?

[mrsg]

you should grow up instead as u write like a ten year old, u talk about love but don't know how to accept a gal for who she is, including her past. u can only probably marry a virgin, but are u one in the first place?

A person who truly loves another will give up everything for him/her w/o expecting anything in return except faithfulness. Accept a person for what he/she is and has done in the past first

[alan0338]

marrying a pro is not such a big deal if she is a better person than a cheating wife who will fuck behind the husbands back :p

all marriages have its own danger, just need to open up ur eyes and make proper judgement ( and not getting blinded by the pussy juice) before jumping into the pit ... :D

[flcult]

you should grow up instead as u write like a ten year old, u talk about love but don't know how to accept a gal for who she is, including her past. u can only probably marry a virgin, but are u one in the first place?

Ya, I have much to learn about love that's why I married the one whom I trust the most. I cannot change the past but obviously u nvr gave a thot about the future. I am concerned abt the TS so he has to wake up to the tune of harsh facts before he spends a huge part of his life in remorse & regret.

Who the tit-fark are u to comment on what I think? U r not at my level to talk about such stuff. Fark off lah, ignorant prick.

[sammyboyfor]

A person who truly loves another will give up everything for him/her w/o expecting anything in return except faithfulness. Accept a person for what he/she is and has done in the past first

Let's put this to bed once and for all. There is NO SUCH THING as "true love". It's the stuff of fairy tales.

What happens is that the act of sexual union triggers a host of chemical reactions in the brain so after fucking a WHORE, many inexperienced whoremongers think they're "truly in love".

Regardless of what caused the act of "falling in love", the fact remains that the effect wears off after a few years and reality sets in.

Those who have ended up marrying WHORES will then wake up every morning wondering why on earth did such a stupid thing.

There's an excellent article on the chemistry of love at http://www.romancestuck.com/articles/chemistryoflove.htm

[Bebertov]

True love is like ghosts, which everyone talks about and few have seen. Quote by La Rochefoucauld, Francois De....

[Peacock29]

haha, even though i marry one ex-fl, i am not really affected or offended by your opinion though, as believe i have married the 0.01% who is not out to swindle my $$$ or have no qualms about sleeping with another men. so

I am also the 0.01% perhaps. I am close to bankrupt and she stood by me. And help me using her limited means too. Mine is not WL but FL too.


To add,
But i have to agree, marrying a FL/WL really need to have tons of considerations, have a lot of understanding and courage. And you must really open your eyes before committing. Best way to see is when you are down and nearly out or totally out, she still stand by you.

Lastly, marriage is a lifetime issue. No matter WL/FL or any other ordinary woman, please take careful considerations and know the other party well before committing.
I am a divorcee, i splited half of asset to my ex-wife (SG citizen) even though i am not at fault. (maybe partially :confused:)

[CeiResident]

Quoted From Reaper

-Marriage is only about 2 things;

1. To ensure the continued existence of the Human Species.
2. Compromise.....

You could have married

- a one night stand
- a fling
- a wife or girlfriend of a buddy / best friend
- childhood sweetheart
- your boss / colleague
- a cousin
- matchmaked
- etc, etc

.....but is that person the one you loved most?

[goodpartner]

Let's put this to bed once and for all. There is NO SUCH THING as "true love". It's the stuff of fairy tales.


Woah! This is a pretty serious statement, before further comments, can you qualify the scope where it applies? i.e. does the preamble of this sub-forum limits it to only whores or you meant it across the entire human race? (God's love aside, becoz let's not get into religious issues)

With this. I'm changing the quote in my sig henceforth :D
Notice there's some relation to "chemical effects" in it.

[sammyboyfor]

Woah! This is a pretty serious statement, before further comments, can you qualify the scope where it applies? i.e. does the preamble of this sub-forum limits it to only whores or you meant it across the entire human race?

The so called "true love that will last forever" that many experience at during the first couple of years of a relationship that makes the love struck individual do the most irrational things isn't real.

However, after this initial period, it is replaced by a feeling of genuine affection and mutual respect PROVIDED:

1. There is reason for both parties to respect each other.
2. A genuine friendship has developed and the couple share common interests and enjoy each others company.
3. The affection goes beyond sexual attraction.

If a couple come from different cultures, don't share common values, don't have compatible intelligence levels and don't enjoy common interests, chances of an enduring relationship are remote.

How do I know this? The answer is simple. I speak from personal experience. I was once "truly in love" with a cosmetic sales girl. She was very pretty and was fantastic in bed. However, she was also a real bimbo. She used to go on and on endlessly about the most inane issues on earth. Lipstick colours and eye liners were far more important to her than the latest Steven Hawkins theory or the findings of the Mars explorer.

I did the required soul searching and decided that there was no way I wanted to breed with this woman or have to listen to her rambling on and on about fashion accessories, shoes and cantonese drama videos for the rest of my life. I therefore called it quits before it was too late.

I have never regretted my decision. I saw her a couple of years ago. She's now fat and ugly and she's STILL a bimbo with the same IQ. Being married to her would be my worst nightmare.

[puyinthinai]

I am seriously surprise that the Richard Gere story still exists in members mind..

Bro,

Read my post:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=88454&page=54

U can RTF as long as u want..but know when to apply the 4 F's

No offense indeed bro, I am happy for u if it comes true..but it is not easy...what are the odds that u will live happily ever after....

Memories are good but they are worth nothing on eBAY when u blow all your money bringing her in...n supporting her....

[goodpartner]

I speak from personal experience. I was once "truly in love" ...

A rarity for u (as forum owner) to share personal experiences... Always a good thing for us members to know you better through these, especially with your strong stand on certain issues.

I never like girls to put on heavy make-ups which usually hide lots of flaws. Great that you cut-lost, at least time-wise, and had great sex still.

Only thing is that to base the "no true love" idea on one example seems a little weak. BUT I get your point on the crucial need for sustainability in any r/s ;)

[ilovesingapore]

PRC whores, once they get their citizenship, they bangseh you liao. You think they want to have kids with a LOSER like you? I hope Singapore government are not so stupid to let you bring CHICKENS in our country. I rather they bring in foreign talent, foreign workers and not foreign CHICKENS!!

[mrsg]

PRC whores, once they get their citizenship, they bangseh you liao. You think they want to have kids with a LOSER like you? I hope Singapore government are not so stupid to let you bring CHICKENS in our country. I rather they bring in foreign talent, foreign workers and not foreign CHICKENS!!


Who are consider loser? I think even local gals do that :confused:

[roadster33]

I am seriously surprise that the Richard Gere story still exists in members mind..

Bro,

Read my post:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=88454&page=54

U can RTF as long as u want..but know when to apply the 4 F's

No offense indeed bro, I am happy for u if it comes true..but it is not easy...what are the odds that u will live happily ever after....

Memories are good but they are worth nothing on eBAY when u blow all your money bringing her in...n supporting her....

very well said.if a woman can sell her body for money,u think she will talk love with u?dont give them money got only 1 outcome,turn face!

[arsenal_84]

However, after this initial period, it is replaced by a feeling of genuine affection and mutual respect PROVIDED:

1. There is reason for both parties to respect each other.
2. A genuine friendship has developed and the couple share common interests and enjoy each others company.
3. The affection goes beyond sexual attraction.


great reasoning.
once the honeymoon period wears off, the real test for the rs will begin.