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leonloh1971
29-11-2004, 03:10 AM
GL AV RAIDS
Friends in GL say, AV raids hot tonight, saw some PRC gals pull by hair by plain clothes to go up police van...some kanna use force on them...if true ...tough life for the wls

hornie
29-11-2004, 02:13 PM
pull hair ah... wa so violent ah

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 02:16 PM
actually.. i oso saw 'pulling hair' of streetwalkers by AV... they cannot pull any other parts of the body, in case they r being wronly accused of 'molest'....

mamamia
29-11-2004, 02:24 PM
Hair from which part of the body?? Armpit??? :D actually.. i oso saw 'pulling hair' of streetwalkers by AV... they cannot pull any other parts of the body, in case they r being wronly accused of 'molest'....

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 02:33 PM
Hair from which part of the body?? Armpit??? :D


common sense tell u.. it is head lah... :(

mamamia
29-11-2004, 02:39 PM
Which head??? :D Why so moody??? So long no drink coffee with you.... when you free during office hour to snake out here??? :p common sense tell u.. it is head lah...

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 02:48 PM
Which head??? Why so moody??? So long no drink coffee with you.... when you free during office hour to snake out here???


hardly got time to sneaked out... y dun mit after office hr??? :D

mamamia
29-11-2004, 02:58 PM
rather tight after office hr....I got my schedule full.... :D hardly got time to sneaked out... y dun mit after office hr??? :D

Klein76
29-11-2004, 03:07 PM
actually.. i oso saw 'pulling hair' of streetwalkers by AV... they cannot pull any other parts of the body, in case they r being wronly accused of 'molest'....

Yup,true saw this av raid a few time liao,always happen at lorong 8 or nearby,can somehow recognised the team too,if i am not wrong,they got 2 lady offical in the team too......one thing i dont like is they pulled their hair hard & scold them something like cheap..... & slap them if they struggles hard.....i think is a bit cruel to them lah,after all they are human & are here to made a living.......

Just my 2cents worth :)

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 03:13 PM
Yup,true saw this av raid a few time liao,always happen at lorong 8 or nearby,can somehow recognised the team too,if i am not wrong,they got 2 lady offical in the team too......one thing i dont like is they pulled their hair hard & scold them something like cheap..... & slap them if they struggles hard.....i think is a bit cruel to them lah,after all they are human & are here to made a living.......

Just my 2cents worth :)


if they cath them.. i hold no qualms but getting violence by slapping them is a disgrace to human rights... is jus tat our authority jus turn a blind eye towards this... a very saddening fact... if our local people faced wif such humilation.. i sure our government sure make noise... :(

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 03:14 PM
rather tight after office hr....I got my schedule full.... :D


then too bad liao loh... wan to drink kopi wif u oso cannot... so sad... :(

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 03:18 PM
actually.. i oso saw 'pulling hair' of streetwalkers by AV... they cannot pull any other parts of the body, in case they r being wronly accused of 'molest'....

Ya i also saw it for myself before. Those AV are very rough when dealing with with all these streetwalkers. They will just grasp their hair if they make any attempt to struggle free and run away. See liao also dun feel very comfortable....they are human too mah why must treat them like that....

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 03:21 PM
Ya i also saw it for myself before. Those AV are very rough when dealing with with all these streetwalkers. They will just grasp their hair if they make any attempt to struggle free and run away. See liao also dun feel very comfortable....they are human too mah why must treat them like that....


well as i predict, either:

1) dun wan to b wrongly accused of 'molesting' the gal

2) abuse their pwr on these gals, as they hv no place to vent their frustration on....


it's a saddening truth.. u can imagine sometimes i go visit these FL, i advise them to b careful and work at KTV is safer than stand on streets.... :(

Klein76
29-11-2004, 03:23 PM
if they cath them.. i hold no qualms but getting violence by slapping them is a disgrace to human rights... is jus tat our authority jus turn a blind eye towards this... a very saddening fact... if our local people faced wif such humilation.. i sure our government sure make noise... :(

Yup bro mahalosux,wat i see is the guy official will never slap them,only the 2 female official,For example,like is there is a av raid tonite,she will drive her car around lorong 8 area(guess the most popular spot for chio prc babes)then looking around & wait for the time to strives,once they start their operation,the team will raid fast & pulled all the girls into the hotel opposite lorong8,& if the girls escape & refuse to be arrest,the lady official will pulled their hair,slap them and drag them into the hotel.....(it pains me to see them cry also........then see them sadly kena sent by the police qx van...what a sad thing to see.....Agree?

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 03:29 PM
Yup bro mahalosux,wat i see is the guy official will never slap them,only the 2 female official,For example,like is there is a av raid tonite,she will drive her car around lorong 8 area(guess the most popular spot for chio prc babes)then looking around & wait for the time to strives,once they start their operation,the team will raid fast & pulled all the girls into the hotel opposite lorong8,& if the girls escape & refuse to be arrest,the lady official will pulled their hair,slap them and drag them into the hotel.....(it pains me to see them cry also........then see them sadly kena sent by the police qx van...what a sad thing to see.....Agree?

I think those lady official are just venting their anger on those poor streetwalker. What right do they have to slap someone? Everything is so wrong here. How come i dun see them pulling hair and slapping those hardcore criminal out there......

Klein76
29-11-2004, 03:34 PM
I think those lady official are just venting their anger on those poor streetwalker. What right do they have to slap someone? Everything is so wrong here. How come i dun see them pulling hair and slapping those hardcore criminal out there......


Bro lawerence,i think maybe it the mindset of the lady official,jelous that the prc babes are damm beatiful or despices them for being a whore...i think is something like that.....wat u think?

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 03:43 PM
Yup bro mahalosux,wat i see is the guy official will never slap them,only the 2 female official,For example,like is there is a av raid tonite,she will drive her car around lorong 8 area(guess the most popular spot for chio prc babes)then looking around & wait for the time to strives,once they start their operation,the team will raid fast & pulled all the girls into the hotel opposite lorong8,& if the girls escape & refuse to be arrest,the lady official will pulled their hair,slap them and drag them into the hotel.....(it pains me to see them cry also........then see them sadly kena sent by the police qx van...what a sad thing to see.....Agree?


i agree on this.. though they r in the 'wrong', but tat does not warrant them to abuse their authority by doin so... even snatch thief when kena caught or muderer kena caught oso neber kena slapped or pulled hair by police...


wat if one day singapore is very dependable on china in terms of economy, etc.. u tink our governement will allow such thing to happen, they will suck up the toes of the Chinese government and make sure no such thing happen... this is being the realistic nature of singapore government... :(

Klein76
29-11-2004, 03:53 PM
Had to agree with you bro,the goverment also one kind one :(

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 03:55 PM
Had to agree with you bro,the goverment also one kind one :(

cos small country need to suck up to bigger country.. jus feel tat we should not 'bully' PRC people... imagine so many of our people heading there for biz.. if we makan them here... they makn us back in their homeground... as they say guang xi and rapport building is important....

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 03:56 PM
Bro lawerence,i think maybe it the mindset of the lady official,jelous that the prc babes are damm beatiful or despices them for being a whore...i think is something like that.....wat u think?

Yup agreed with you. I think those lady official are just making use of their authority to vent their frustration.....maybe they felt those streetwalkers are bringing bad names to the female race by being a whore.....but have they ever wonder, if given a choice, would anyone wants to work in this line.....they thought everyone are as lucky as them can go around catching people to vent their anger......

matsuda
29-11-2004, 04:18 PM
Yup agreed with you. I think those lady official are just making use of their authority to vent their frustration??.....

With the latest press reports on street walkers outside Geylang and now including Geyalng, the AV is hard pressed to "clean up" the scene. he current findings regarding more mothers getting HIV to their babies is a GRAVE concern for the authorities now. Expect more raids until this situation fades away slowly.... however these Meimei will return in no time under different pretexts. Student Pass, PeiDu MaMa, etc etc.... :(

My 2 cents worth.

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 04:38 PM
With the latest press reports on street walkers outside Geylang and now including Geyalng, the AV is hard pressed to "clean up" the scene.

yesterday Sunday Times even tok abt streetwalkers at Orchard... it seems like the matter have been blow up liao....

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 04:39 PM
Actually if the government really wants to cramp down on all these PRC streetwalkers, they could actually do it at the custom by conducting more stringent check on their travelling documents as lot of those streetwalker are using fake passports and etc......but on the other hands, the governemt also scare by doing so, it will also discourage china tourists from visiting singapore and hence affecting our tourism development and as a result affecting our economy..... so ultimately the government also have to take part of the blame for all these streetwalker problems.......

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 04:45 PM
Actually if the government really wants to cramp down on all these PRC streetwalkers, they could actually do it at the custom by conducting more stringent check on their travelling documents as lot of those streetwalker are using fake passports and etc......but on the other hands, the governemt also scare by doing so, it will also discourage china tourists from visiting singapore and hence affecting our tourism development and as a result affecting our economy..... so ultimately the government also have to take part of the blame for all these streetwalker problems.......

sometimes not fair lah the system... they wan to earn their money, by encouraging them to come singapore, so they willingly issue them visa, even though they know the fact tat a handful of them r here to 'work'. they earn their money, at the same time catch them and deport them back to china and come back wif new paasport and new visa, actually our government is generating revenue out of this....

sadfa
29-11-2004, 05:10 PM
Actually if the government really wants to cramp down on all these PRC streetwalkers, they could actually do it at the custom by conducting more stringent check on their travelling documents as lot of those streetwalker are using fake passports and etc......but on the other hands, the governemt also scare by doing so, it will also discourage china tourists from visiting singapore and hence affecting our tourism development and as a result affecting our economy..... so ultimately the government also have to take part of the blame for all these streetwalker problems.......

if they really want to clap down, do that also no use.

but if they convict the charbor of vice activities, whether fl, ktv or tn, must go jail and cheong gong all the money, no more prc dare to come anymore, except for those legitimate 1.

matsuda
29-11-2004, 05:25 PM
if they really want to clap down, do that also no use.

but if they convict the charbor of vice activities, whether fl, ktv or tn, must go jail and cheong gong all the money, no more prc dare to come anymore, except for those legitimate 1.

Perhaps its time now to legalise these PRC MeiMei just like the Cat40 Thais and Cat80 and Cat150 Malaysian Gals. Cat100 would be a great start.... anyone agrees??

At least this approach makes sure that they go for periodic checkups and stop to spread STD and HIV related problems and also to keep them off the street and into proper houses.

As for Orchard Towers, I think AV will just have to raid and keep that place clean.

My 2 cents worth.

japboy
29-11-2004, 05:48 PM
sorry to pour cold water on dis issue and although i'm not affiliated to any parties involved but police are able to use force when any suspect resist arrest and refuse to co-operate, i.e. trying to escape and such.

The lady officers are taught to arrest and to tackle those who resist arrest and perhaps this is one of the ways taught to them because if they pull by arm and dislocate the arrestee's arm, d organisation will have to pay for compensation, etc.

i guess they target hair as it is one of the easiest place to get hold without significantly injuring the suspect....

n i'm also not pro-govt by saying dis but s'pore encourage easier application to visas because of the potential that tourism frm china tourist can bring in ... we encourage them to come over to spend money n generating revenue, rather than earn money and spend it back to china ...

dun flame me but jz offering the other side of d coin!

my 0.0000000002 cents worth....

cuteboy12345208
29-11-2004, 06:02 PM
I agree with majority of the bros here. The girls should not be treated badly. They never kill or rob anybody. They should not be treated like criminals. Also expect AV raids on HCs as well as newspapers reports states that more that 30% of massage parlours do vice activiites. Pity those girls.


My 0.0001 cents worth of opinion

sadfa
29-11-2004, 06:10 PM
sorry to pour cold water on dis issue and although i'm not affiliated to any parties involved but police are able to use force when any suspect resist arrest and refuse to co-operate, i.e. trying to escape and such.

The lady officers are taught to arrest and to tackle those who resist arrest and perhaps this is one of the ways taught to them because if they pull by arm and dislocate the arrestee's arm, d organisation will have to pay for compensation, etc.

i guess they target hair as it is one of the easiest place to get hold without significantly injuring the suspect....

n i'm also not pro-govt by saying dis but s'pore encourage easier application to visas because of the potential that tourism frm china tourist can bring in ... we encourage them to come over to spend money n generating revenue, rather than earn money and spend it back to china ...

dun flame me but jz offering the other side of d coin!

my 0.0000000002 cents worth....

use reasonable n proportionate force only.

bhoven
29-11-2004, 06:14 PM
Perhaps its time now to legalise these PRC MeiMei just like the Cat40 Thais and Cat80 and Cat150 Malaysian Gals. Cat100 would be a great start.... anyone agrees??

At least this approach makes sure that they go for periodic checkups and stop to spread STD and HIV related problems and also to keep them off the street and into proper houses.

As for Orchard Towers, I think AV will just have to raid and keep that place clean.

My 2 cents worth.

Yes this seems the most practical and best solution. Having stricter visa rules may discourage genuine tourists though if u ask me, if ICA is real about managing the influx of SWs, all it has to do is to grant quick repeat ( those re-entering within 1 month of previous visit) visitors, shorter stays say < 1 week. This will make it not worthwhile for SWs to return too quickly.

We cheongsters will as bonus get fresh stocks . ICA should apply this to all female nationals ( including Thai and Indonesian ) i/o of to PRCs only.

ang076
29-11-2004, 07:19 PM
Bro Matsuda,

Regarding granting of licence to PRC gals by AV, many PAP MPs had suggested this during Parliamentary debate. Some of these MPs had suggested that Red Light District be set up in Toa Payoh where PRC WL will continued their trade.

Alternatively, PRC WL can also operate in KS legalised brothels.

Rof|maoxz
29-11-2004, 07:48 PM
I pity those PRCs kana caught. Curse those tomboy officers who mistreat them! WLs & FLs also humans. I wonder it's time to change the national anthem man. Democratic society?.....hmm :rolleyes:

Klein76
29-11-2004, 08:15 PM
I agree with majority of the bros here. The girls should not be treated badly. They never kill or rob anybody. They should not be treated like criminals. Also expect AV raids on HCs as well as newspapers reports states that more that 30% of massage parlours do vice activiites. Pity those girls.

My 0.0001 cents worth of opinion

Had to agree on you with this,At least they made a honest living,not rob or steal,Fl,wl still have their pride rite?

Klein76
29-11-2004, 08:21 PM
I pity those PRCs kana caught. Curse those tomboy officers who mistreat them! WLs & FLs also humans. I wonder it's time to change the national anthem man. Democratic society?.....hmm :rolleyes:

Yup lor,i always frequently lorong 8 to see chios prc babes,see so many times of the av operation,feel uncomfortable when seeing them raid lorong 8,like a bunch of hooligan bully the poor prc girls, their operation & the way they raid the places are almost the same,can just hope that they will legalised the prc girls.....sign....

Ah Wang
29-11-2004, 08:44 PM
if they cath them.. i hold no qualms but getting violence by slapping them is a disgrace to human rights... is jus tat our authority jus turn a blind eye towards this... a very saddening fact... if our local people faced wif such humilation.. i sure our government sure make noise... :(

Hee.. bro.. local people must see which type, if u belong to the rich and famous maybe the govt will make noise, if u belong to the good old local like everyone here then good luck to u.. Of course unless u r an FT or Ang Moh.. haa... then different liao, who knows the police may even ask u to take the front seat and they squeeze at the back of the van...

:)

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 08:46 PM
Yup lor,i always frequently lorong 8 to see chios prc babes,see so many times of the av operation,feel uncomfortable when seeing them raid lorong 8,like a bunch of hooligan bully the poor prc girls, their operation & the way they raid the places are almost the same,can just hope that they will legalised the prc girls.....sign....

If they wan to legalise the prc gals they longer ago will do it liao and dun need to wait till now ......i just dun see it happening here loh. Unless some MP willing to go all out and fight for it....which i dun think any MP will do so.....

But come to think of it, if they could really legalise it, they dun need to spend so much effort conducting raid every now and then... and also by legalising it, they could enforce health check for those PRC gal and as a result, help to control the spread of aids and other sexual diseases......

ang076
29-11-2004, 08:54 PM
What happens if FLs come from USA ? :D

Then our govt will treat those FLs humanely by treating them politely, otherwise US will intervene militarily. :D

Klein76
29-11-2004, 08:57 PM
[QUOTE=ang076]What happens if FLs come from USA ?


I think the goverment will suck up to them lor :) Promote the spirit of Foreign Talent,wat u think?

Lawrence1713
29-11-2004, 09:07 PM
[QUOTE=ang076]What happens if FLs come from USA ?


I think the goverment will suck up to them lor :) Promote the spirit of Foreign Talent,wat u think?

Haha....that's a good one...wondering if those AV still dare to pull hair and slap here and there if those streetwalker were from USA.........

mahalosux
29-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Hee.. bro.. local people must see which type, if u belong to the rich and famous maybe the govt will make noise, if u belong to the good old local like everyone here then good luck to u.. Of course unless u r an FT or Ang Moh.. haa... then different liao, who knows the police may even ask u to take the front seat and they squeeze at the back of the van...

:)


our society is full of people (esp from govt sector) tat adopt the 狗眼看人底 (dog eye see people low) policy.... :(

sometimes it really depends on social class or if from superior race... i must say we come from a 'boot-licking' society...

jonah11
30-11-2004, 12:45 AM
Must do some work mah so that they will be worth their salary come the 12th day of next month with 2 more months bonus.

USA? Foreign Talent? Maybe it was stated in the FTA between Singapore and U.S. Who knows!

tionggoklan
30-11-2004, 01:38 AM
Bro, u know lah, gals r like that, esp. sg gals. They tulan, esp those married, as they think this gals seduce their men mah. Somemore, many sg men married PRC ladies rather than sg ladies, so they buey song mah.

some may choose not to agree, but hey, gals r petty creatures. Even if it dun happen onto them but to some1 they know, they also tulan the PRC WLs. This is what i think. I also feel that some ppl (some hor, not all) juz really belief too much or should i say over-generalize what they read on the newspaper.

Juz like last time when i was posted to china, b4 i left, my aunt told me: "beware of china gals hor, dun get con by them", b'cos that time there was this famous case on the paper regarding "xiao long nu".

I'm not saying PRC gals dun con foreigners, juz that i believe in every country, society, race, there r bound to be gd 1 n bad 1, can't say all r bad.

Juz my opinion. :)


Bro lawerence,i think maybe it the mindset of the lady official,jelous that the prc babes are damm beatiful or despices them for being a whore...i think is something like that.....wat u think?

Klein76
30-11-2004, 07:12 AM
True brother,

U got a point there too :)

cheers

dirty69warrior
30-11-2004, 11:06 AM
[QUOTE=mahalosux]our society is full of people (esp from govt sector) tat adopt the 狗眼看人底 (dog eye see people low) policy.... :(

i agree that there is indeed alot of singapore who thinks too highly of themselves! they really over-estimate themselves!!! local gals act-class and thinks that they are better and cleaner than the PRCs, and they look down on them!!! sigh! i have not touched local gals for about 5 years liao! all these while, only bonk PRCs although there is a price to pay. i would rather pay more at clubs with PRCs than at pubs with local gals, whenver i can afford.

japboy
30-11-2004, 11:07 AM
Bro, u know lah, gals r like that, esp. sg gals. They tulan, esp those married, as they think this gals seduce their men mah. Somemore, many sg men married PRC ladies rather than sg ladies, so they buey song mah.

some may choose not to agree, but hey, gals r petty creatures. Even if it dun happen onto them but to some1 they know, they also tulan the PRC WLs. This is what i think. I also feel that some ppl (some hor, not all) juz really belief too much or should i say over-generalize what they read on the newspaper.

Juz like last time when i was posted to china, b4 i left, my aunt told me: "beware of china gals hor, dun get con by them", b'cos that time there was this famous case on the paper regarding "xiao long nu".

I'm not saying PRC gals dun con foreigners, juz that i believe in every country, society, race, there r bound to be gd 1 n bad 1, can't say all r bad.

Juz my opinion. :)

agreed wif bro here.... i think it's the perspective of how d media has publishised the news that shaped pple's minds .... furthermore, we are very closely related to prc n hence no news in sillypore n we got 2 get news elsewhere near loh.

dun heard the media played down the news abt certain countries whereby dis fella killed d whole singaporean family (wife plus his children plus his wife's mum) but not follow up on the trials after dat .... hmmmm..... :eek:

o izit dat I've missed d conclusion...

Frankiestine
30-11-2004, 11:42 AM
Hair from which part of the body?? Armpit??? :D

Mamamia they must have very long armpits hair.... :D

MoonBlaze
30-11-2004, 11:45 AM
Mamamia they must have very long armpits hair.... :D

Nope...i think nostril hair...

Frankiestine
30-11-2004, 11:47 AM
Yup lor,i always frequently lorong 8 to see chios prc babes,see so many times of the av operation,feel uncomfortable when seeing them raid lorong 8,like a bunch of hooligan bully the poor prc girls, their operation & the way they raid the places are almost the same,can just hope that they will legalised the prc girls.....sign....

Maybe bros here who so happen to stumble upon any such raids should if their handphone has recording features, record it down and post it out for the world to see...it would be a major embarassment to those useless dogs that are only good at catching pros but not major crime doers....

Frankiestine
30-11-2004, 11:48 AM
Nope...i think nostril hair...

Errr...dun remind me of that...i once had a female colleague and nvr trimmed nostril hair...sticking out from nose and once could spot a nose shit there....errr....

CheongKingKong
01-12-2004, 02:30 PM
Errr...dun remind me of that...i once had a female colleague and nvr trimmed nostril hair...sticking out from nose and once could spot a nose shit there....errr....


One Word....GROSS....pui...pui...pui...
:o

smartalex
01-12-2004, 05:21 PM
Bro, u know lah, gals r like that, esp. sg gals. They tulan, esp those married, as they think this gals seduce their men mah. Somemore, many sg men married PRC ladies rather than sg ladies, so they buey song mah.

I have to agree on this point. These women AV probably have Singaporean husbands or BFs. Perhaps they got cheated by their loved ones, and so use this exercise to vent their anger and call them cheap.

I'm not saying PRC gals dun con foreigners, juz that i believe in every country, society, race, there r bound to be gd 1 n bad 1, can't say all r bad.

I agreed too. There are good and bad people in every race and country. It is not fair to curse an entire nation after meeting a few bad examples.

mamamia
01-12-2004, 05:28 PM
No need to be too long just bushy will do!!!!!! Next time I show you on your armpit expenses... ;) Mamamia they must have very long armpits hair.... :D

mamamia
01-12-2004, 05:29 PM
You watched too many films by stephen chow..... :p Errr...dun remind me of that...i once had a female colleague and nvr trimmed nostril hair...sticking out from nose and once could spot a nose shit there....errr....

Klein76
01-12-2004, 05:29 PM
I agreed too. There are good and bad people in every race and country. It is not fair to curse an entire nation after meeting a few bad examples.[/QUOTE]

Had to agree with you but this is the facts that is happening now

Frankiestine
02-12-2004, 12:13 PM
You watched too many films by stephen chow..... :p

Maybe stephen chow have included her in his movies.....

Frankiestine
02-12-2004, 12:14 PM
No need to be too long just bushy will do!!!!!! Next time I show you on your armpit expenses... ;)

Wah lau u seen some of these PRC meis armpits hair....i malu to stand beside them more bushy then mine.....

mamamia
02-12-2004, 02:13 PM
Qi Mong???Stephen Chow always need to stare at her armpit??? :D Maybe stephen chow have included her in his movies.....

mamamia
02-12-2004, 02:15 PM
That is the reason why I ask them the hair from which part of the body did the Anti Vice officer pulled.... they thought I joking.... :rolleyes: Wah lau u seen some of these PRC meis armpits hair....i malu to stand beside them more bushy then mine.....

Frankiestine
02-12-2004, 03:10 PM
That is the reason why I ask them the hair from which part of the body did the Anti Vice officer pulled.... they thought I joking.... :rolleyes:

Imagine if armpit hair already so long and bush cannot imagine the pussy...maybe they tie it up into turban.... :D

mamamia
02-12-2004, 03:13 PM
now the fashion is pony tail....so you see them not in turban(hot and MOE dun allow student to wear tudung... :D )....also because later there perspire very smelly then no business...Imagine if armpit hair already so long and bush cannot imagine the pussy...maybe they tie it up into turban.... :D