I was an animal, now I'm paying for it.

[stupiderthanu]

Let me start off by saying that I'm not HIV positive..

Why?

Cause I haven't been tested yet.

Maybe confessing would help when I go for a test, maybe it won't, idk. What did I use to do? A lot.

I used to pick up trans at Changi for BJ and AJ at times. Mostly protected, but there were BBBJ towards the last few exposures.

I used to frequent GL FLs, the ones on the streets, unlicensed, unregulated. These exposures were all protected, BJs and FJs.

I used also used to go to Orchard Towers HC, BJs and FJs protected.

I was stupid.

This happened over a span of 3 years. Never went for testing, the thought never crossing my mind.

Then all of a sudden, somewhere in Nov 2011, after quitting smoking and cheonging, I felt this sudden surge of fatigue and guilt taking over me. My last exposure was near the end of October, protected if recall correctly.

All of a sudden all symptoms appeared, loose stools, sweating more at night, feeling tired more easily, dry mouth. Some of these symptoms are happening up till now. I'm at a loss of what to do.

For the past 3 years, I've been stupid and thoughts of infection has never crossed my mind. I never had any "fire" feeling when I urinate, never had any STD symptoms as I know of. But now, I've read that some STDs, don't even show any symptoms. Die, means I also don't know what.

What I'm most fearful of is the other 3 big letters. H-I-V.

Wow, I'm really at a loss of what to do. In my head, its only, test positive, write all the letters I need to my loved ones, and say bye bye.

I doubt got any sammyboys/cheongsters as hardcore as I was without thinking. I think that only I'm in such a predicament and as such, I square the responsibility on my shoulders alone. I am at such a loss of what to do.

I want to turn my life around, and the past few months, I have indeed been doing that. But I don't know how to and end up, sitting around doing nothing all day. I feel like leaving it all behind.

[sammyboyfor]

Since you've pretty much convinced yourself you're positive, why don't you get tested just to confirm it.

If it turns out you're negative, treat it as a bonus. :D!

[stupiderthanu]

anyone try this before?

http://www.aidstestkit.blogspot.com/?zx=fc94de1de2bb7c56

[JellyDog]

Go for a test of HIV. Maybe result it is negative? why so sad now. Want do don,t fear.........

[JellyDog]

Go for a test of HIV. Maybe result it is negative? why so sad now. Want do don't fear.........

[5ag1_Boar]

Piangz eh! All the symptoms you describe does not point to any specific STD. Maybe it's because you stop smoking? Withdrawal symptoms?

Basically, what I'm saying is, it could be anything (maybe not even smoking withdrawal, I just hamtam only to prove a point) that happened to show up... not necessarily STD or STI.

I did a Google of your symptoms and the result was mixed: stress to medication side effects.

Worried? Go get yourself checkout. Since you want to turn your life around, suggest you go for full body check up. Get those that include HIV test. I believe they will ask for your consent as part of the process...

[vscelwan]

you may get STD but unlikely HIV provided you are dam lucky strike TOTO...

[vscelwan]

Read...

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/oral-sex----DR-expert-reply/show/1360421

[kryptonite123]

Your symptoms point to digestive problems (loose stools, lethargy, etc.). Since you said you always engaged in protected sex, you shouldn't be worrying about HIV at all. To feel more assured, I suggest you look up the studies done and posts made by the experts at Medhelp and The Complete HIV/AIDs Resource: The Body. If you do decide to go for a test, knowing the facts will keep you sane for the period before you get that negative result. I believe you are over-freaking yourself out, and this mental drain is contributing to your symptoms.

[number7]

the symptoms u had described does not related to HIV..but might be other problem... consult your gp and arrange full body check up...not necessary HIV related concern but more to acquire wat happening to our body n health..

[raymondwale]

Bbbj v unlikely to get HIV

[obnoxiously]

Like what the boss said is right! To quell all fears and anxiety, go for a check up!

[coper99]

dude,if u hv been smokin 4 more than 20 years n u jus suddenly quit smokin,most probably is e cigi withdrawal symptoms? not 2 scare u,but i hv a frd who hv been smokin 4 more than 30 years n he jus quit suddenly.. he died.. :confused:
run a health check jus 2 hv a peace of mind dude.. good luck.. ;)

[stupiderthanu]

dude,if u hv been smokin 4 more than 20 years n u jus suddenly quit smokin,most probably is e cigi withdrawal symptoms? not 2 scare u,but i hv a frd who hv been smokin 4 more than 30 years n he jus quit suddenly.. he died.. :confused:
run a health check jus 2 hv a peace of mind dude.. good luck.. ;)

I've thought about this issue too. I've only been smoking for like 7 years only?? like how can all these be due to smoking right???

btw, any samsters tried this CORE HIV 1+2 test kit before? Care to share experience?

Link: http://www.aidstestkit.blogspot.com/?zx=fc94de1de2bb7c56

[ruzhyo]

I been smoking since 12 and quit at 31. How many years is that? My last 3or 4 years before I quit was 40 sticks a day (if I no go chiong) Chiong at least 3 - 4 packs.

After quit for 2 years, I put on 20kg, cough out blood and tar.

Now I am over weight and at risk of heart attack I suspect.

I still have dry mouth and the runs (lao sai) frequently...

I don't even fuck around anymore...

healthy? I think not....

[baotohk]

I've thought about this issue too. I've only been smoking for like 7 years only?? like how can all these be due to smoking right???

btw, any samsters tried this CORE HIV 1+2 test kit before? Care to share experience?

Link: http://www.aidstestkit.blogspot.com/?zx=fc94de1de2bb7c56

just go for the test at proper clinic unless your aim is to promote this website

[stupiderthanu]

just go for the test at proper clinic unless your aim is to promote this website

My aim is not to promote that site at all.. I'm just so scared i'm looking for anyone who tried out the self test kit before..

I don't know if i should try it, even though I've arranged to buy it..

I mean if negative ok. I'll wait another month and test again.. And if negative again, straightaway go to AFA or any anon testing facility to test..

If positive, I really don't know how.. Should I immediately test again with the other kit I bought???

[Tsar]

When I quit and went cold turkey from smoking. I experience the same things as TS. I have being smoking for 20 years. I am clean from smoke and alcohol for 6 months. However SBF is another issue. Hahaha

[Dreamer76]

Dun worry just go for the test, having HIV doesnt mean its end of the world. Ppl with HIV are still living happily for the past 1-20 years.

Was stressed like you b4, but still went for the test. After the test totally quitted from the scene, the most just go for massage and op for HJ. :p

[owl888]

Everyone has their sexual needs, u pay for it anyway so no way u r an animal. I believe base on those symtoms u described dosen't conclude u have HIV, if u worry maybe can test overseas like at JB?

[stupiderthanu]

Wah all this talk of testing myself or going to AFA to test..

I think i'll just cancel testing myself and leave it alone for awhile...

[sexfrenzy]

Wah all this talk of testing myself or going to AFA to test..

I think i'll just cancel testing myself and leave it alone for awhile...

Your symptoms look very generic.. could be withdrawal symdrom from quitting smoking.

Anyway to have a peace of mind, just go for the checkup. Just draw some blood onli mah.

[stupiderthanu]

Your symptoms look very generic.. could be withdrawal symdrom from quitting smoking.

Anyway to have a peace of mind, just go for the checkup. Just draw some blood onli mah.

Haha.. Thanks sexfrenzy.. Your msg brought a smile to my face, and that hasn't happened for quite some time.. :)

The draw blood part of course not scared bro.. I'm not manny 'pacman' pacquio.. The scary part is the results..

I know, most samsters say, scared of consequences, don't cheong.. But what if it was at a time when I was not thinking straight??

At times like this, I also can't see what I'm looking for, through all this postings and stuff.. maybe i'm just here to air my grievances, doubts and confess all past wrongs (albeit anonymously).. Maybe i'm just one of those who doesn't have the balls to face it head-on..

I envy and applaud all the samsters who mustered up the courage and go ahead with the testing, beating all their fears.. I on the other hand seem to cower up in a corner.. I wish I had your strength, your bravery..

[stupiderthanu]

Wah, jialat lah...

How I wish I had found sammyboy earlier.. Read a lot of the older posts..

Guys go GL, wait 3 months, test, then cheong again... Makes me feel damn stupid sia now.. Sometimes not even 1 month I go cheong again.. Never got tested..

I think I die already loh....

[5ag1_Boar]

What does that achieve? It will not protect you. Testing is not prevention.

[stupiderthanu]

When I quit and went cold turkey from smoking. I experience the same things as TS. I have being smoking for 20 years. I am clean from smoke and alcohol for 6 months. However SBF is another issue. Hahaha

Hi tsar.. Really you had nightsweats also from quitting?????

What does that achieve? It will not protect you. Testing is not prevention.

Well, testing gives u peace of mind.. Extremely contradictory, considering my situation..

I never cared for the past 3 years.. Don't care, just went ahead doing all these things.. Totally self destructive attitude..

[sgjoey]

Point of clarification....

HUMANS ARE ONE SPECIES OF ANIMAL.

More specifically, we are one species of great apes. The other great apes are chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans.

See, for instance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape .

[ImmatureBoy]

Hi tsar.. Really you had nightsweats also from quitting?????



Well, testing gives u peace of mind.. Extremely contradictory, considering my situation..

I never cared for the past 3 years.. Don't care, just went ahead doing all these things.. Totally self destructive attitude..

Take it easy and all the best. my fren had the same experience as yrs but after check HIV but he has some kidney problem tats why he had all these issues. he cheong also not much also but yeah. better check n have a peace of mind

[stupiderthanu]

the more i read, the more i believe i'm closer to my wits end..

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=47849

and i haven't even been for the test.. I really feel scared...

[stupiderthanu]

Point of clarification....

HUMANS ARE ONE SPECIES OF ANIMAL.

More specifically, we are one species of great apes. The other great apes are chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans.

See, for instance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape .

Thanks for your kind words..

I'll keep that in mind in case I decide to do anything to myself.. I just pray that I don't, cause its getting hard and its getting to me so much..

[xiaoquan]

I also thought i may have HIV. Out of sudden i have dry mouth. So, i went for a testing at around 2 months after. Results came out negative and doctor ask me few question. Ensure me that i should be fine as the test is very sensitive. Most people can produce antibodies 10 days after exposure. But, to be safe, its better to go 3 months after.

Told the doctor i suddenly have dry mouth and he say it doesn't means its cause by HIV. Anyway, he did say i can come back after 6 months to check if i am still worried. I decided not to go. Other than Dry mouth i do not have any other symptoms.

But, maybe i should go again to double confirm.

[stupiderthanu]

I also thought i may have HIV. Out of sudden i have dry mouth. So, i went for a testing at around 2 months after. Results came out negative and doctor ask me few question. Ensure me that i should be fine as the test is very sensitive. Most people can produce antibodies 10 days after exposure. But, to be safe, its better to go 3 months after.

Told the doctor i suddenly have dry mouth and he say it doesn't means its cause by HIV. Anyway, he did say i can come back after 6 months to check if i am still worried. I decided not to go. Other than Dry mouth i do not have any other symptoms.

But, maybe i should go again to double confirm.
you cheong frequently also???

[lasupkia]

you cheong frequently also???Since it's yr fear that stop u from going to get tested, why don't u ask any other bros who also feel fear and arrange to go together.

Some things that can happen.

1. U are ok.
2. U might have some other sickness which could be treated early but by delaying now, the sickness spread.
3. .....

Dont waste any more time on this unless u want yr dick to drop off.

[arsenal_84]

just go to dr tan and get tested for a peace of mind.
plan to go down for testing this month as a periodic kind of test, once every 6 months.

[fbjeff01]

Bro, as other bros have mentioned, your symptoms are rather generic and could be brought on by many other causes. According to your story, most of your exposures are protected. Therefore, IMHO, your chances of being infected are rather slim. I go for regular testing about once or twice annually and u understand that even if you really were exposed to the virus before, you still may not be infected. Nobody can tell you how or how not to be infected. In my view, I say u relax and go for testing. Do not stress yourself too much as stress alone could bring on these symptoms and more. Get tested, bro..

[yellowscoropion]

Just to set the record straight, there have been NO documented cases of men getting HIV from a BBJ. Given the fact that you also used protection consistently, it is extremely unlikely that you contracted HIV at all. I'm just giving you the sort of opinion that you'd get from a trained healthcare expert.

[sewn910516]

Symptoms are unreliable, bro. As long as you practise safe sex, HIV is not your concern. Juz go for a test to give yourself a peace of mind.

[stupiderthanu]

"Symptoms are unreliable", "You can't diagnose it from symptoms", "IMHO, your symptoms do not sound like they are caused by HIV".

I do not doubt the sincerity of these posts, and I know that the intentions behind these replies are noble, pure and in the purpose of wanting to calm me down, and mentally prepare me for HIV testing.

But, I'm still afraid... I really feel like I'm on the plank, forced off the ship, with a huge needle with the words HIV Testing on it.

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to go for the test, but its still very very hard. As of now, 'symptoms' are only left with night sweats, which I also do not know the definition, to be sure of the symptom. I mean yeah, I've been noticing more sweat in my neck, head and shoulder areas, but not so for the rest of my body. Is it considered night sweats? I don't know. I don't seem to know anything anymore.

Loose stools no more, though now I seem to battle constipation. Everyday something new pops up. Twitching, that's still there. I don't know. I don't know anymore.

[V|ernar]

"Symptoms are unreliable", "You can't diagnose it from symptoms", "IMHO, your symptoms do not sound like they are caused by HIV".

I do not doubt the sincerity of these posts, and I know that the intentions behind these replies are noble, pure and in the purpose of wanting to calm me down, and mentally prepare me for HIV testing.

But, I'm still afraid... I really feel like I'm on the plank, forced off the ship, with a huge needle with the words HIV Testing on it.

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to go for the test, but its still very very hard. As of now, 'symptoms' are only left with night sweats, which I also do not know the definition, to be sure of the symptom. I mean yeah, I've been noticing more sweat in my neck, head and shoulder areas, but not so for the rest of my body. Is it considered night sweats? I don't know. I don't seem to know anything anymore.

Loose stools no more, though now I seem to battle constipation. Everyday something new pops up. Twitching, that's still there. I don't know. I don't know anymore.


I don't care if ppl zap me or not , just 2 words.

Fuck you .

The day you came out to play , the time will come when it about to end .

Those Symptom Are coming from where, do you know ? It Your own fear cause them , constipation ? You so ganchiong now how to shit ? so many bros here give you good advice and advise you to go take a test , do you know if you test out early , you can still stay healthy for another 10-15 years with the right drugs ? Do something for your family and stuffs , I fuck more then you can think of , sometimes under alcohol I go raw , which I think is stupid ( already try not to drink ) But I go for regular checkup and brave myself doing it and thank god I am still healthy .

Two choice I give you , go test .

No HIV , stop Chiong and go do charity , got HIV find a nice building and jump down but don't drown yourself in the water tank cause I don't want to drink HIV water .

Thank you .

[vscelwan]

I don't care if ppl zap me or not , just 2 words.

Fuck you .

The day you came out to play , the time will come when it about to end .

do you know if you test out early , you can still stay healthy for another 10-15 years with the right drugs ? Do something for your family and stuffs , I fuck more then you can think of , sometimes under alcohol I go raw , which I think is stupid ( already try not to drink ) But I go for regular checkup and brave myself doing it and thank god I am still healthy .

Two choice I give you , go test .

No HIV , stop Chiong and go do charity , got HIV find a nice building and jump down but don't drown yourself in the water tank cause I don't want to drink HIV water .

Thank you .

I'm agreed what you said..

Advise TS is absolutely wasting time like Marry go around and round. You have courage to cheong and no courage to face it. You think we have no fear when we go to checkup? FY...

[hoosdathu]

the more i read, the more i believe i'm closer to my wits end..

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=47849

and i haven't even been for the test.. I really feel scared...
take the test asap, bro.
JUST DO IT, with capital letters.
don't bother with ur mental preparation sh|t. test now, worry later, ok!

most important for u now is to get a peace of mind.
be it + or -, u can decide what u wanna do after the test.

no point worrying yourself to death, without even knowing whether u + or -...

[V|ernar]

He is just retarded , trying to install fear into us telling us it wrong . While he just hide under his tiny little blanket , normally I don't post or even bother to reply until he keep reject going for test .

The longer you wait , the worst it became .

[Seletar]

Bbbj v unlikely to get HIV

why very unlikely ?

[sewn910516]

Bbbj v unlikely to get HIV

Went down for my routine test yesterday. Thank god it is a negative. Juz wanna point out that we can never ever assume that bbbj is riskless in the transmission of HIV. The counsellor explained to me that the argument that there is no reported case of transmission through oral sex is wrong. She has seen many cases of HIV cases back in the USA and around 6% of transmissions are through unprotected oral sex. There might be some bleeding ulcers or gums in the mouth of the prostitutes.

As for the case of TS, so many bros have given u advice. It depends on you whether to heed our advice or not. If you dare to have sex with prostitutes, be a man to face the music.

[5ag1_Boar]

Goodness gracious... no need to reply any more. Everything need to be said already said.

Please let this thread die a natural death.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

"Symptoms are unreliable", "You can't diagnose it from symptoms", "IMHO, your symptoms do not sound like they are caused by HIV".

I do not doubt the sincerity of these posts, and I know that the intentions behind these replies are noble, pure and in the purpose of wanting to calm me down, and mentally prepare me for HIV testing.

But, I'm still afraid... I really feel like I'm on the plank, forced off the ship, with a huge needle with the words HIV Testing on it.

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to go for the test, but its still very very hard. As of now, 'symptoms' are only left with night sweats, which I also do not know the definition, to be sure of the symptom. I mean yeah, I've been noticing more sweat in my neck, head and shoulder areas, but not so for the rest of my body. Is it considered night sweats? I don't know. I don't seem to know anything anymore.

Loose stools no more, though now I seem to battle constipation. Everyday something new pops up. Twitching, that's still there. I don't know. I don't know anymore.

I seldom come to this section.

Hey Animal, stop all your merry-go-round diarrhoea fooling around with good advice from bros :mad::(

Everything you don't know but know how to contact test kits manufacturer, everything you are afraid, very afraid but pull brake when bros adviced you to go for checks asap and leading people on with a hidden agenda :rolleyes:


I used to pick up trans at Changi for BJ and AJ at times. Mostly protected, but there were BBBJ towards the last few exposures.

I used to frequent GL FLs, the ones on the streets, unlicensed, unregulated. These exposures were all protected, BJs and FJs.

I used also used to go to Orchard Towers HC, BJs and FJs protected.

This happened over a span of 3 years. Never went for testing, the thought never crossing my mind.

Then all of a sudden, somewhere in Nov 2011, after quitting smoking and cheonging, I felt this sudden surge of fatigue and guilt taking over me. My last exposure was near the end of October, protected if recall correctly.

All of a sudden all symptoms appeared, loose stools, sweating more at night, feeling tired more easily, dry mouth. Some of these symptoms are happening up till now. I'm at a loss of what to do.

For the past 3 years,

I doubt got any sammyboys/cheongsters as hardcore as I was without thinking. I think that only I'm in such a predicament and as such, I square the responsibility on my shoulders alone. I am at such a loss of what to do.

I want to turn my life around, and the past few months, I have indeed been doing that. But I don't know how to and end up, sitting around doing nothing all day. I feel like leaving it all behind.

Many things you know but go for test - Don't know?
Please leave and stop wasting our time advising you

[becky80]

TS may be paranoid or what. But worry also no used face the music if is meant to be. Go checkup and ease ur mind ok. No illness but ur constant fear make u mental breakdown instead.

[5ag1_Boar]

Stop giving him attention.

[meandme]

Stop giving him attention.


eXactly what I think so.
He just needs our attention. attention seeker.

Maybe you should seek it in the new paper. They love to report such news

[newyorker88]

Have guts to play, no guts to face the test?

I suggest you test it out before you suffer from depression or other problems due to stress.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

eXactly what I think so.
He just needs our attention. attention seeker.

Maybe you should seek it in the new paper. They love to report such news

Life is so unpredictable and uncertain that we never know what will happen in the next seconds, minutes, hours, or even days to follow. When it's our time to die, just face death and accept it. Scare this and that but ended up scare for nothing ;) You are just like 1 mouse who sat next to me on a trip back to SG, the plane shook a bit due to turbulence and he kept whispering: We gonna die, gonna die and started praying................Really felt like slapping him.

[jurongguy1981]

TS,

It is common to have the fear of getting tested, as you may not be ready for the truth. But bro, all I can say is thinking too much and not getting tested will actually cause more harm. In fact, you will not be able to live your life fully, as there is something holding you back.

If you are really scare and lost, tell you what, PM me, I don't mind accompanying you to get tested. Nothing beats having a support.

We come to play and there will come a time we must face reality and come to terms with the truth. Anyway, the truth is not know. Maybe it is not so bad after all.

Cheers.

[peanut123]

Jeez dude, you sound so insecure. Get a grip on yourself. Just go for the goddamn test and be done with it. If it's negative, you have a weight off your shoulders and a new lease of life.

If its positive, well, you need treatment asap or you will expire very quickly. Either case, you have to get tested. So just do it.

I was once in your shoes, and I was scared. But I convinced myself that I needed to know, even more so if it might be positive since early detection and treatment can prolong your life. Late detection just means an early death. It's no different from going for tests for cancers, liver problems, and many other chronic-life-threatening diseases.

Once I realized that, I went for the test pronto at AFA. And it turned out negative, so all my anxieties were for nothing. I celebrated by crossing the road to Petain and having a bonk.



"Symptoms are unreliable", "You can't diagnose it from symptoms", "IMHO, your symptoms do not sound like they are caused by HIV".

I do not doubt the sincerity of these posts, and I know that the intentions behind these replies are noble, pure and in the purpose of wanting to calm me down, and mentally prepare me for HIV testing.

But, I'm still afraid... I really feel like I'm on the plank, forced off the ship, with a huge needle with the words HIV Testing on it.

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to go for the test, but its still very very hard. As of now, 'symptoms' are only left with night sweats, which I also do not know the definition, to be sure of the symptom. I mean yeah, I've been noticing more sweat in my neck, head and shoulder areas, but not so for the rest of my body. Is it considered night sweats? I don't know. I don't seem to know anything anymore.

Loose stools no more, though now I seem to battle constipation. Everyday something new pops up. Twitching, that's still there. I don't know. I don't know anymore.

[sammyo]

Let's go by the number. You've been doing this for 3 years. Assuming you do twice every week. That's count to 300 encounters. Assuming 10% of them is HIV positive (that's already very very big number). So, total is 30. The worse thing you did was BBBJ. Thats about 1 in 10000 chance of getting HIV. So, it's 30:10000 or 0.003 or 0.3%

The odds are favourable to you. Just get tested, chances you won't have HIV. If you're scared, just go to the anonymous session first. You may have other STI like herpes though.

[Remorse]

Bro.

U every time also protected so ur chances are extremely low! Recently I went raw and just tested negative! Should go for a test. Trust me! Ur chances of HIV is really really low!

[tungjj]

do not worry, not so easy

[stupiderthanu]

Before I start, I woukd like to thank the Almighty. The All Loving, All Seeing. All Knowing, All Forgiving.

This is post is in no way related to religion or to sway anyone into it.

I know, I'm a coward. Not proud at that fact, but God willing, I will work those issues out with myself.

An evidence as to how I'm so cowardly. Yes, one Sammyboy mentioned that I know how to contact test kit manufacturer everything, but as to how I'm so cowardly, the test kits themselves have been sitting in the corner of my room. Untouched.

JurongGuy1981, grateful to him, told me to take small steps, calming me. Once again, ever grateful.

Today I woke up and used one of the test kit.

Negative.

After CNY, I think I'm going for AFA already. Once and for all. And also regular testing till perhaps next year. Wish me luck, and I'll continue updating.

In no way am I an attention seeker, in fact, I was so afraid to post after all the 'angrier' remarks from other Sammyboys. But I must thank those who did also, cause it ultimately forced me to do this, on this faithful morning.

[5ag1_Boar]

Good for you!!!

[stupiderthanu]

Thanks.

By the way, does anyone know where is good to do a comprehensive STD test? Best price if possible.

Thanks in advanced.

[peanut123]

Thanks.

By the way, does anyone know where is good to do a comprehensive STD test? Best price if possible.

Thanks in advanced.

You can do STD tests at DSC ( which is the same building as the AFA tests but during office hours ), or at any GP clinic. It is pricey, at 100++ and is NOT anonymous.

Secondly, congrats on your negative results. But if you are going to be so scared all the time and whine like a little girl the next time you need a test, I suggest you stop doing commercial sex. Frankly, reading your self-denials was really irritating. Have the guts to bonk WL with unknown sex history, then have the guts to face the consequences and protect your loved ones by knowing your own health status.

Scared, don't bonk. Want to bonk, don't be scared. Simple.

[Guardsmanwarrio]

Bro u r just stress... Chill...

[Guardsmanwarrio]

Life is so unpredictable and uncertain that we never know what will happen in the next seconds, minutes, hours, or even days to follow. When it's our time to die, just face death and accept it. Scare this and that but ended up scare for nothing ;) You are just like 1 mouse who sat next to me on a trip back to SG, the plane shook a bit due to turbulence and he kept whispering: We gonna die, gonna die and started praying................Really felt like slapping him.

Lol this s funny bro

[stupiderthanu]

Trust me, I won't.

As I mentioned, I never think in th past. Mistakes are mistakes, sometimes we're hopeful its nothing more. And I still am.

If I were to mention my age, you'd probably understand why I was so very exasperated.

I sorry if I angered anyone. I had no hidden agenda, no motivations to sway anyone from their choices or anything.

I've learnt quite a lot from this, and I'm grateful to everyone, whatever their comments were.

Peanuts, btw STD comprehensive, not anon, I understand. But shouldn't I be worried about that too, considering in quite a number of them, people can be asymptomatic???

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Trust me, I won't.

As I mentioned, I never think in th past. Mistakes are mistakes, sometimes we're hopeful its nothing more. And I still am.

If I were to mention my age, you'd probably understand why I was so very exasperated.

I sorry if I angered anyone. I had no hidden agenda, no motivations to sway anyone from their choices or anything.

I've learnt quite a lot from this, and I'm grateful to everyone, whatever their comments were.

The $64 million question: Going or Not? :cool:

[shctaw]

You remind me of the character play by Tom Hank in the movie Joe Versus The Volcano.

A corrupt doctor told Tom Hank he got "Brain Cloud".:p

So he decide to jump into the volcano to help a group of cavemans that drink Marinda Orange soda.

Tom Hank need a second opinion.

And you need First opinion.:D

http://youtu.be/A9lceeNQMwk


http://youtu.be/sMrmS2AJ1OQ

[stupiderthanu]

Let's go by the number. You've been doing this for 3 years. Assuming you do twice every week. That's count to 300 encounters. Assuming 10% of them is HIV positive (that's already very very big number). So, total is 30. The worse thing you did was BBBJ. Thats about 1 in 10000 chance of getting HIV. So, it's 30:10000 or 0.003 or 0.3%

The odds are favourable to you. Just get tested, chances you won't have HIV. If you're scared, just go to the anonymous session first. You may have other STI like herpes though.

okay... how now???

why didn't they tell us in school that herpes is so much more rampant than HIV?? so much that I didn't know to worry about...

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

okay... how now???

why didn't they tell us in school that herpes is so much more rampant than HIV?? so much that I didn't know to worry about...

TS, KNS, it really confirmed you are only taking all of us for a self-amused merry-go-round ride !!!!!!! :rolleyes::mad:

All Bros: Stop entertaining this clown

[Golden question]

Life is so unpredictable and uncertain that we never know what will happen in the next seconds, minutes, hours, or even days to follow. When it's our time to die, just face death and accept it. Scare this and that but ended up scare for nothing ;) You are just like 1 mouse who sat next to me on a trip back to SG, the plane shook a bit due to turbulence and he kept whispering: We gonna die, gonna die and started praying................Really felt like slapping him.

haha bro,your posting make me laugh but also agree on what u say

[Golden question]

TS, KNS, it really confirmed you are only taking all of us for a self-amused merry-go-round ride !!!!!!! :rolleyes::mad:

All Bros: Stop entertaining this clown

During reading and after 5 pages,i intend to pen my thought but now i think better save my time:D

[5ag1_Boar]

*face-palm*

..
Peanuts, btw STD comprehensive, not anon, I understand. But shouldn't I be worried about that too, considering in quite a number of them, people can be asymptomatic???

Symptoms are things that you can sense... i.e. see rashes, feel pain, feel stinging session when peeing, see secretions...

STD tests test your blood, urine, stool and/or samples for the indicators that are usually around way before symptoms show up.

okay... how now???

why didn't they tell us in school that herpes is so much more rampant than HIV?? so much that I didn't know to worry about...
Probably because Herpes usually is NOT fatal and does not have the potential kill off entire populations.

What else do you want to know that school did not teach you?

Please, just go see a doctor or whatever STD/STI centre and let them explain everything to you.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

haha bro,your posting make me laugh but also agree on what u say

During reading and after 5 pages,i intend to pen my thought but now i think better save my time:D

Hi Bro Golden question, not say I want to say him. He started this thread Jan 2 and from a Western New Year till now, we are fast approaching our Lunar New Year, he's still merrying around like a New Year lantern. ;) Spring cleaning is an auspicious tradition that allows us to freshen up our homes and self to get a head start in a New Year...Anyway hope he's like "Coke - The Real Thing" and go for a check before the long holidays.

As per tradition during CNY visits or gathering, we talk about where to cheong and where to get herbs to go the extra miles, not where to see doctor cos kenna herpes. ;) .....Choy ! Choy!....Knock wood x 3times...Choy!...Nobody wants to talk such PanTang (taboo) thingy during CNY cos no good for us - The Cheongsters :D

[Golden question]

Hi Bro Golden question, not say I want to say him. He started this thread Jan 2 and from a Western New Year till now, we are fast approaching our Lunar New Year, he's still merrying around like a New Year lantern. ;) Spring cleaning is an auspicious tradition that allows us to freshen up our homes and self to get a head start in a New Year...Anyway hope he's like "Coke - The Real Thing" and go for a check before the long holidays :D Nobody wants to talk such PanTang (taboo) thingy during CNY cos no good for us - The Cheongsters :D

ya loh,i think he only post yesterday that he have try out the test kit.I also dont understand why he dont want to go DSC.Some more there is discreet and they dont require u to feel in any particular.

Should be brave to find out the answer rather then think here and there.I am those type that dont like to tuo ni dai shou ppl.I still remember i went for my first test before i marry 5 years ago.Reason is if touch wood i kana,i dont want to spread to my love one.Be responsible

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Should be brave to find out the answer rather then think here and there.I am those type that dont like to tuo ni dai shou ppl.I still remember i went for my first test before i marry 5 years ago.Reason is if touch wood i kana,i dont want to spread to my love one.Be responsible

Yup. We are responsible to our action and for who we become. The path to our destination, expeically sex path is not always a straight one. We go down the wrong road, we get lost, we turn back. It doesn't matter which road we embark on - Girlfriends, Wives, ONS, FB, FL or WL. What matters is that we embark and experience sex, not die as a virign :D. Everyone die eventually, it's started when we came into this world :p We must known that we will take this road but we will never know whether it would be today or tomorrow or 50years later ;) IMHE, I have dying persons held on to my hand in their dying beds and told me that yesterday they know they will die one day but they didn't know it's TODAY!!!! We need to trust ourselves, then we will know how to live and stop worrying.Be happy! :cool:

[msa_amk]

Could just be the effects of nicotine withdrawl. Get tested anyway.

[peanut123]

Most HIV ppl live for an additional 20-25 years with medication. So if you are like 40+ now... 65yrs old die.. OK WHAT :confused:

That is, of course, until you reach 64. Then you'll wish for another 20 years.

[peanut123]

okay... how now???

why didn't they tell us in school that herpes is so much more rampant than HIV?? so much that I didn't know to worry about...

dude, I don't know if you are naive, stupid, or just yanking our chain.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

The fact is STDs, apart from HIV, are not fatal if treated. Though some are incurable, they are just mere annoyances when they flare up. They don't kill you or inconvenience you other than you should not have sex during those periods. It's no worse than having, say, a flu or a fever now and then.

It's the same : during those times when you have a flu or a fever, you probably don't have sex because you feel unwell, and you will have bouts of these throughout your life. You wait till it blows over and life resumes. And yet nobody frets over flus and fevers. So it's the same for STDs. There is no need to be paranoid over it.

[stupiderthanu]

Okay, let me give you a background of myself.

I am under 30. Haven't even been through life to experience it like you all have. I was young and stupid. I did not think of the consequences of my actions.

How to have a future if I have STDs which would flare up and can effect my potential partner, and have children? I'm sorry, I know all of this is my fault. I have taken small steps thus far, tested (so far) HIV -ve, Syphilis -ve.

Would be doing that again in a month's time.

I think I'm beginning to understand what I need. I need to read experiences of people who underwent these tests, negative or positive. Recommendations. Etc.

Should I go for a complete STD test? The nature of the test being confidential and not anonymous is deterring me from taking it. But, I know that it is for the protection of my family, for my future, for my future family (if I would be blessed to have one), and for the peace of mind.

At first it was HIV. Then -ve. Thank God.

Then syphilis. Then -ve. Thank God.

I thank everyone here for letting me move and take these small steps. But I hope you all can understand where I'm coming from.

If it's any consolation, I'm beginning to feel better after each -ve result.

I deeply apologise to cause any anger, especially during such an auspicious time for most members of these forum.

[simsim87]

btw guys, juz wanna ask. i always had protected sex but the cd doesnt cover my dick entirely. 1/4 of my dick at the bottom is sometimes exposed. may i know if hiv can be transmitted that way?

[stupiderthanu]

Waiting for 3 month mark to a full test.. still very much afraid.. HIV -ve, Syp -ve so far..

Thinking of going AFA test again at 3 month mark..

Anyone has got any experience with Hep B testing or symptoms before?? And also gonorrhea/chlamydiae which shows no symptoms??

I'm sorry.. Just looking for experiences to calm myself down.. sorry in advanced to seem stupid and irritating..

[tartar26]

yes , you are quite stupid. So , how will you solve your stupidity?

[stupiderthanu]

wait for the 3 month mark and test AFA, i suppose..

And then full test at DSC, i guess..

I'm getting so sick and tired of worrying already.. the twitching that I feel a number of times everyday may be due to the stress of not knowing what I have. Then again, it might be the symptom of something worse..

its taking a toll on everything I do, and i really regret not finding this forum sooner, and reading all the articles from Big Sexy and Big Boss Sam.. as i paused typing, i just noticed my thumb wobble, sigh...

preparing all the different scripts in my head to tell all the different people in case I test positive for anything..

i hope everything is ok, and its not any STD.. though in my mind, I feel that i probably caught something somewhere down the line..

I find it tiring how the worry changes time after time, test after test.. a first HIV, then Syphilis, then herpes (which i was told that a person shouldn't worry so much, unless symptoms such as herpes sores pop-up, and they can test this to rule out herpes, cause its not life threatening and doesn't change medical management).... Now its Hepatitis B.. Just a warning to everyone out there, its apparently 50-100 times more infectious than HIV..

Let's go by the number. You've been doing this for 3 years. Assuming you do twice every week. That's count to 300 encounters. Assuming 10% of them is HIV positive (that's already very very big number). So, total is 30. The worse thing you did was BBBJ. Thats about 1 in 10000 chance of getting HIV. So, it's 30:10000 or 0.003 or 0.3%

So that makes Hep B chances, 15% - 30%??? without a test, I also don't know...

I guess that's life, test after test after test.. I'm praying a lot that I don't fail this one..

[5ag1_Boar]

Dude, how many times you want us to tell you? The symptoms you are displaying are NOT related to STDs.

Frankly, it looks more like nicotine withdrawal. Why not you also go check out the "I Quit" campaign and get yourself some help for that. http://www.hpb.gov.sg/iquit.aspx

You should still get yourself tested for STDs, but you need to chillax. You don't know any results yet, so you stress now also no use. You stress now and make plans for STD-positive results, but if the results come back negative, everything you have been stressing and thinking about is for nothing.

Even if something is going to come back positive, you stress now also useless because you can't do anything about it anyway. If you have caught it, you have caught it. You can only be prepared to accept the results, do what you have to do and accept the consequences.

Just get tested and while waiting, live life to the fullest (but don't cheong, else you reset you wait time) and be calm.

All this self-stress is affecting your health. Even if you don't have STD, the stress is likely ruining your health and making you shaky and wobbly and sweaty and what not, because you are probably not eating well and not sleeping well. Not to mention, you are probably suffering depression now. On top of that, cannot work properly, so kenna stress at work too. Stress is known to lower immunity.

You want to worry about STDs, why not worry whether you got cancer and other health problems in your body already from the smoking. Or from handphone radiation. Or from high cholesterol. Or from fatty liver. Or high blood pressure... so many damn things to worry about!!!

Can you see how YOU are making everything feel worse?

People with terminal illness that suffer the most are those who go on a depression tail spin. Those with a positive and happy outlook tend to suffer less and sometimes outlive the doctors estimations by a fair bit.

[stupiderthanu]

I've been beginning to understand you pov SagiBoar.. i know what you mean, but the wait for the testing date.. that's killing me..

[xiaoquan]

Some nothing to do person zapped me this with no nick. No balls to leave down name

"congrats on contracting HIV, due deserving retribution for u".

Anyway, I thought is a better thing to go for a 2nd testing to keep myself clear from all these negative thoughts. I went and did the test and came out negative. 9 months after
the first test. I don't chiong frequent. Only like 2-3 times out of curiosity.

Surprisingly, after this 2nd test. My mind became clearer and my dry mouth is no longer pestering me. Maybe due to fear or anxiety?

[Thamtham]

Si Bei Lo so lor...:mad:
Go check to clear any doubts...worry also no use.

[peanut123]

Holy shit, you are still here whining away ??? Grow the fuck up. How many times do the bros here have to hold your hand and console you like the fucking baby that you are ???

Almost an entire month of non-stop self-pitying groveling is really pathetic, with bros offering you 3 freaking pages of advice and consolation, and all you do is grovel and look for even more imaginary problems ??? WTF ??? All you did is put your dick into a pussy, not into a vat of toxic nuclear waste, so stop with the self-pitying. You are seriously pissing me off.

Jeez, just be a monk if fucking a girl worries you so much. What a pathetic whiny ass.



wait for the 3 month mark and test AFA, i suppose..

And then full test at DSC, i guess..

I'm getting so sick and tired of worrying already.. the twitching that I feel a number of times everyday may be due to the stress of not knowing what I have. Then again, it might be the symptom of something worse..

its taking a toll on everything I do, and i really regret not finding this forum sooner, and reading all the articles from Big Sexy and Big Boss Sam.. as i paused typing, i just noticed my thumb wobble, sigh...

preparing all the different scripts in my head to tell all the different people in case I test positive for anything..

i hope everything is ok, and its not any STD.. though in my mind, I feel that i probably caught something somewhere down the line..

I find it tiring how the worry changes time after time, test after test.. a first HIV, then Syphilis, then herpes (which i was told that a person shouldn't worry so much, unless symptoms such as herpes sores pop-up, and they can test this to rule out herpes, cause its not life threatening and doesn't change medical management).... Now its Hepatitis B.. Just a warning to everyone out there, its apparently 50-100 times more infectious than HIV..



So that makes Hep B chances, 15% - 30%??? without a test, I also don't know...

I guess that's life, test after test after test.. I'm praying a lot that I don't fail this one..

[sammyboyfor]

I guess that's life, test after test after test.. I'm praying a lot that I don't fail this one..

Why don't you just kill yourself to end the misery. :rolleyes:

[vscelwan]

I wish very hard TS have HIV and STD...naibee till here like tcss to waste our time

[CyanogenMod]

TS, at first you worried about HIV, next you worried about STD, next is what again? :rolleyes:
you seems like just want people to encourage you, to pamper you, to care for you. Is that your real motive?
To me you don't sound like a season cheongster. You really cheong so much?
STD sure got symptom relation to your cock. And i'm sure you don"t have as you didn't mentioned before. So WHY and WHAT are you worrying??? :rolleyes:

[stupiderthanu]

To me you don't sound like a season cheongster. You really cheong so much?
STD sure got symptom relation to your cock. And i'm sure you don"t have as you didn't mentioned before. So WHY and WHAT are you worrying??? :rolleyes:

i wish i could turn back time and not do all those things that i did. I'm just very worried about it that's all.

I wish very hard TS have HIV and STD...naibee till here like tcss to waste our time

and please do not curse me like that. i'm sorry to offend, but all these things i did on my own without anyone knowing or suspecting. this forum has been one of the few ways i can let it out without doing anything stupid to myself. i'm sorry to offend those seasoned ones, i'm just afraid that's all.

i'm sorry.. don't think i'll be posting anymore..

[Xdecepticon]

I wish very hard TS have HIV and STD...naibee till here like tcss to waste our time

WahLou! Dont curse till like tat lah. Esp not during this LNY season..

[vscelwan]

i wish i could turn back time and not do all those things that i did. I'm just very worried about it that's all.



and please do not curse me like that. i'm sorry to offend, but all these things i did on my own without anyone knowing or suspecting. this forum has been one of the few ways i can let it out without doing anything stupid to myself. i'm sorry to offend those seasoned ones, i'm just afraid that's all.

i'm sorry.. don't think i'll be posting anymore..

TS, not I want to curse you and it's not my intention...we already said pls go check up that is the best solution...what make you think that we don't scare to go for HIV test? We need to responsible and don't go to spread around especially to our love one...testing just take less then 20 mins but u have spend more then a month here merry go round and round...

[stupiderthanu]

Vscelwan, I've done the HIV test.. Although its the self test, its negative.. Would be going again to AFA.. Went to AFA for the Syphilis test.. Negative..

I'm just voicing out my worries.. That's all.. I'm sorry to offend you in doing so..

[vscelwan]

Vscelwan, I've done the HIV test.. Although its the self test, its negative.. Would be going again to AFA.. Went to AFA for the Syphilis test.. Negative..

I'm just voicing out my worries.. That's all.. I'm sorry to offend you in doing so..

We already told you liao...your symtomps not HIV...provided you dame lucky as good as strike 1st price toto...

all bros...don't forget to buy 10M ToTo for this coming Friday..

[Guardsmanwarrio]

Huat ar!ten million toto ar!! I not greddy ! Gibme one million can liao la!!!

[peanut123]

dude, we are not adverse to giving you advice and guidance, but you are one frigging insecure whiny crybaby. I've never seen anyone bitch so much about imaginary problems as you have.

Get a grip on yourself. If you cannot even survive a few blood tests without breaking down, you don't frigging deserve to have sex, commercial or otherwise. Pray for the best, take the frigging tests and shut the fuck up unless the results are positive. Then you will be entitled to rant and rail all you want and we won't begrudge you for it.



Vscelwan, I've done the HIV test.. Although its the self test, its negative.. Would be going again to AFA.. Went to AFA for the Syphilis test.. Negative..

I'm just voicing out my worries.. That's all.. I'm sorry to offend you in doing so..

[webspin]

Hey dude, we have a way of switching our guilt into medical problem, just forgive yourself for being a normal man and move on

[n30n]

I agree you are an animal, a chicken.

If you're freaking scared, just do a full STD test!
Anymore questions ask the doc!

Even a young girl knows how to protect herself when a stupid guy like you play her.
How come you don't know how to take care of yourself when you dare to play other girls!

BTW, condoms can help prevent STDs to a certain extent only.
Condoms can't fully protect you from Herpes.
http://std.about.com/od/herpes/f/condompreventherpes.htm

And oral sex without protection is not STD free.
Any part of the body with open wound - body fluid / open wound - open wound contact can transmit STDs.

[5ag1_Boar]

... After 1 month, he never whine already, why dig up the thread again??? LOL!

[jolenekoh]

Why don't you just kill yourself to end the misery. :rolleyes:

why dont u suck my dick n stfu??