Top of the line SPAS - Myth & Reality

[nortap]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:

1st Spa - Opted for Relaxation Massage at 126net for 60 minutes.Was led into a tastefully furnished, elegant and cozy room with light music wafting around, sweet aroma incense was burning and there was a glass walled shower.With in seconds a therapist appeared, offered a cup of tea and requested that all clothing be removed and lie face down on the massage table.Did so after a quick shower.The massage was relaxing; as good as Phuket Banyan Tree/ Langkawi Datai.
Several times the therapist touched the sensitive areas.After turning over, this touchy-touchy business increased but nothing was said.
Soon massage over; thanked therapist, showered, got dressed and left.
At this stage not sure whether the touching part was inevitable as it was part of massage hand movements or it was a hint to explore further.

2nd Spa - As grand as the previous Spa.Chose Indon Massage at 95net for 45 minutes.Room well appointed with shower.Excllent massage.This time, after turning over, the therapist started talking of her many customers who ask for 'charlie massage ' and how she has to do it on the quiet as she did not want to lose customers and besides it was added income.Ofcourse hand only and of course free roaming allowed; cost 70, therapist mature nice looking lady.

3rd Spa - Excellent set up, lots of comfort; spacious room with shower.Opted for salt brushing/ scrub followed by massage at 155net.
Heavenly scrub and superb massage.After turning over, therapist started talking generalities; so asked point blank - reply no surprise but was advised better to make appointment off peak period and anycase only hand and free roaming; cost is upto client.

4th Spa - This exclusive and restrictive; not easy to get in.Attractive and luxurious setup.Selected Basic Beginner Massage for destressing and improving circulation at 105net for 60 minutes.The treatment was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable.The therapist attractive and shapely.Casually using carefully selected language sought information on possibilities.Was advised only hand possible at the Spa but can make outside appointment and ofcourse cost is left to client.

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

[icekewl]

[QUOTE=nortap]It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Bro,

Care to PM the in\dentities of these Spas.................

[Happosai]

Nortap: You spend S$481 on 4 sessions of massage just to find out if these expensive joints provide such service? For such amt, I could have a Big Mac session dude!

Anyway great but expensive research report, you got my approval :D

Cheers!

[Wins88]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:


Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

Bro, thanks for the extensive and expensive research! What an eye opener! 4 spas - mostly cater to HJ's and some will offer FL services outside. Hmm ... which of the 4 will you return to further your exploration? Great FR!

[OceanEleven]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.
Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )
Got FRs, gave an inside look of the classy spas, up you. :D

[rhys]

Brother Nortap,

I am impressed by your report! You actually put your money where your mouth is to do a small sample and report on actual real world results.

Kudos to your research and subsequent report.

I have ever wondered if we could have a SIAS style of association (Health Club Association?) where members paid a small nominal fee of say, $100 a year, and these funds are used to defray costs of members who do field investigative reporting by visiting HCs and reporting in a relatively unbias manner the results of their investigations. :)

Just to share, I ever visited Safra Yishun's Rainforest spa, pretty good value for money but no hanky-panky. Though the auntie who gave me the body massage said she massage "everywhere except there" (with a knowing look)... ;) Possibly she is a veteran of the HC scene and her 2nd career is in the clean and reputable joints i.e. Rainforest spa.

Cheers.

[born_mean]

Nortap: You spend S$481 on 4 sessions of massage just to find out if these expensive joints provide such service? For such amt, I could have a Big Mac session dude!

Anyway great but expensive research report, you got my approval :D

Cheers!
Hahaha this bro nortap is a generous guy with deep pockets :cool: . Kudos to him for "testing" these expensive places and provide good FRs.

Cheers,
BM

[azreal666]

Hahaha this bro nortap is a generous guy with deep pockets :cool: . Kudos to him for "testing" these expensive places and provide good FRs.

Cheers,
BM

bro very interested in your 4th spa...care to pm me where it is and which gal "serviced" u hehe....or maybe we can go visit together?

[nortap]

For Icekewl - there are only a handful of top of the line Spas; you should be able to easily figure out the 1st 2nd and 3rd; the fourth is difficult as it exclusive;all are at popular locations i.e. well known expensive hotels.If you still want the names will pm you, just indicate.

For Wins 88 - sure you guessed it - the fourth spa therapist; we met outside; she was reluctant to go to the usual joints; so went to a hotel on Havelock; spent the whole afternoon and evening with her; struggled for days together to forget her and slowly succeeding.
This business is highly addictive!!!!!!

General - it is not a question of deep pockets but priorities; know atleast two of my friends who have spent tons at Dragon, Executive and Lexon .

Thank you.

[plman2002]

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.[/QUOTE]

For a sam....ster with 6 posts to provide such an intensive n detailed info of our sillypore expensive massage joint is indeed applaudable.
For that I salute you and 5 pts for u.

cheers,

[lawry]

For Icekewl - there are only a handful of top of the line Spas; you should be able to easily figure out the 1st 2nd and 3rd; the fourth is difficult as it exclusive;all are at popular locations i.e. well known expensive hotels.If you still want the names will pm you, just indicate.

For Wins 88 - sure you guessed it - the fourth spa therapist; we met outside; she was reluctant to go to the usual joints; so went to a hotel on Havelock; spent the whole afternoon and evening with her; struggled for days together to forget her and slowly succeeding.
This business is highly addictive!!!!!!

General - it is not a question of deep pockets but priorities; know atleast two of my friends who have spent tons at Dragon, Executive and Lexon .

Thank you.

bro,

wats the damage?

[born_mean]

bro,

wats the damage?
Yah me curious to knoe too! especially damages for ur outside session with the 4th Spa therapist. :o

Cheers,
BM

[nortap]

azreal666

this is difficult for me as the girl has requested anonymity; anyways there is nothing special of her - there are prettier and younger ones at Dragon/ Lexon/ Aven etc; it so happened we vibed;still struggling mentally.

Lawry/ Born Mean

She did not quote a price; insisted it was left to me to give her a present, so placed a sum of money in an envelope and wrote ' Thank You ' and presented it to her with both hands!She accepted it, thanked and held me tight and repeatedly kissed me on the face and ears for may be five minutes and she did not even know how much was in there.No wonder it is difficult to forget her!!!

[icekewl]

[QUOTE=nortap]For Icekewl - there are only a handful of top of the line Spas; you should be able to easily figure out the 1st 2nd and 3rd; the fourth is difficult as it exclusive;all are at popular locations i.e. well known expensive hotels.If you still want the names will pm you, just indicate.

Ya bro......... could you pls PM me the details?

[infinitiumus]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:


Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

Bro, very good and nice report. It would be even better if you can drop some hint. We may be familiar with the likes of dragon, executive etc etc but may not be familiar with the so-called Top of the line SPAs. If discretion is required, maybe PM will be fine. Who knows, I may be the next in line to provide the FR.

I can also understand what you said you "struggled mentally" as I was once in that situation.

[lawry]

Lawry/ Born Mean

She did not quote a price; insisted it was left to me to give her a present, so placed a sum of money in an envelope and wrote ' Thank You ' and presented it to her with both hands!She accepted it, thanked and held me tight and repeatedly kissed me on the face and ears for may be five minutes and she did not even know how much was in there.No wonder it is difficult to forget her!!!
lets be cheong buddies... :)

[newyorker88]

Allow me to rub in abit, from Batam, becos I am on this island smaller than the red dot.

There are a lot of nice spas which are cheaper than sillypore. I recommand the spring spa in Bali Spring, Better know as Putri Garden. The cost is abt 110K for 2 hours. THey have other aroma theraphy and so on. with the most expensive costing abt 160K. If you book a room, the spa and facitilies are free. Hanky Panky depends on your negoiation skills. Usually 200K to 250K for FJ. HJ abt 100k, the gals will try to edge up the cost.

There are abt 7 gals working at nite shift, 5 in the morning. The gals are same from Mandarin, Tai Chi massage. They rotate from these 2 place.

Planet has a Spa also, know as Spring Spa, charges not known yet. I will provide details when I go there.

THere is also another nice spa know as PAS spa, charges abt the same as Bali Spring. Gals are better looking. Havent got any Hanky Panky yet from that place.

Sports Massage Center... Next to Mandarin hotel, Nice place, but no hanky Panky . Got a pool also, and jazzcu...

Sawadeeka, next to the shop houses at TOP 100 Peniun. They have scrub also, but not Hanky panky. So far, these are the tops I know in Batam. Any other brothers are free to add in if they details!

GOod day

[nortap]

For icekewl
For infinitiumus
the matter has been dealt with
Caution : at all locations they provide bath robes and boxer shorts; only the 1st Spa visited asked to remove all clothing; at the others informed them feel uncomfortable with shorts as cannot experience the massage; they were kind to say OK, no need to wear shorts; please use discretion as these Spas for both sexes.

[nortap]

For lawry

Thanks for your kind words.

[nortap]

PM inbox is inundated; have not opened any; will deal with this earliest get a chance.

[nortap]

For icekewl
For infinitiumus
Just to ensure that one is not mislead by reading inbetween:
The purpose of the brief note of visits was to demolish the myth that so called 'high class' Spas do not provide certain private services.
Yes, the body treatments at all the places enjoyable.
The therapists are mostly experienced mature ladies.
This is not for those expecting hard, taut, smooth, youthful bodies.
Sure there are some young therapists and sure there are some good looking ones.Must brief requirements at the time of booking.
Unlike HCs, specials are not offered; not even mentioned directly; it is cloak and dagger stuff; must pick up hints or provide hints in indirect, casual, jocular fashion( quite sure most samsters expert at this!!).
HCs are better for specials especially the selected ones eg Dragon
Lastly, what is good for the goose may not be for the gander.

[alantan27]

[QUOTE=nortap]For icekewl
F
This is not for those expecting hard, taut, smooth, youthful bodies.
Sure there are some young therapists and sure there are some good looking ones.Must brief requirements at the time of booking.
Unlike HCs, specials are not offered; not even mentioned directly; it is cloak and dagger stuff; must pick up hints or provide hints in indirect, casual, jocular fashion( quite sure most samsters expert at this!!).


If i ask them I want a young gal , they will surely give me a fuuny look
how am I going to tell them I want a young gal??

[rahl]

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

I dont agree with those who made remarks abt it being expensive. What you pay for, is what you get. You might get cheap at HC (or cheaper at TN) but how much massage can u get? I think some bros would agree with me that one of the best experience is to have a both great massage and you know what. :p

Bro nortap, good work, hi five to your points.

One question to clarify - you didnt mention how many masseurs in the spas agreed to the specials - or rather, how often were you able to get them?

[nortap]

If i ask them I want a young gal , they will surely give me a fuuny look
how am I going to tell them I want a young gal??


You couldn't possibly be serious; everyone has their style and sure you have yours.
The point beiing made is that here, locally, hand services seem possible, actually happen and can experience the same.
This is so unlike similar Spas in Phuket, Langkawi, Bali etc
Like the word ' Special ' this is so uniquely Singaporean

[nortap]

One question to clarify - you didnt mention how many masseurs in the spas agreed to the specials - or rather, how often were you able to get them?


Collected info as went primarily to test the myth that it is strictly body treatments; any case massages are said to be therapeutic and also enjoy the same.
Based on communication, both ways, hand services are available at definitely 3 of 4; the other one not sure whether hints were made as can interpret either way.
Met outside premises, by private appointment, one of the therapists for relaxation, leisure and related services to enhance such enjoyment!!What can I say!!!

[orangeox]

Like the word ' Special ' this is so uniquely Singaporean

Really agree with you bro on this Line.

Can't ask for the same when you are in CHINA....haha :p

老板,你需要”SPECIAL”吗?

Cheers

[blurrsotong]

Yo Notrap.... great report.
I used to go to one of these spas and it was strictly business, facial, body massage... great to relax but no hint of any extras...

Care to please pm me which are the ones you went to.. if it is the same as the one I frequented.. may be tempted to go for sessions again....
Agree that one must be discreet as they cater to both sexes...

Cheerio

[nortap]

Yo Notrap.... great report.
I used to go to one of these spas and it was strictly business, facial, body massage... great to relax but no hint of any extras...

Care to please pm me which are the ones you went to.. if it is the same as the one I frequented.. may be tempted to go for sessions again....
Agree that one must be discreet as they cater to both sexes...

Cheerio


Matter has been dealt with as mentioned.

[nortap]

Really agree with you bro on this Line.

Can't ask for the same when you are in CHINA....haha :p

老板,你需要”SPECIAL”吗?

Cheers


Agreed but surprise, surpise they do ask in HCM city like ' want special ' ' special?? '
Also at a major city in the West where they do so once they know you are from here but only at the asian places.

[imom]

Actually, I've met some ladies who have worked in these so-called 'clean' spas before - and now they're in the dodgy ones. I'm wondering if they started providing the extras before or after jumping ship... I must remember to ask them the next time I see them!

[cbjuiceyumseng]

Cheers for this brillant and informative post! :D

[PKTM]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:

...

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

ATTENTION! HORMAT SENJATA, HOR.........MAT!

I must really salute you, you the first that doesn't start a new thread that goes something like "Does those so-called CAT 1 high class Spa really no hanky panky?" for answers... you actuallly go spend $$$ and trial first hand. I really respect u many many.

my humble 2 points for u, sir. :)

[mark66]

Well done Brother NORTAP... I like your style.. up your point!! :cool:

[Padawan]

Well done brudder NORTAP. Good initiative on your part to try out and clear the doubts! Had always wondered if the high class spas offers such specials. Now we know they do at least most of them though may cost more $$$ :(

Up you 2 points for your initiative.

[AssLover]

I know SPA at 5 star US hotel in Scotts road if you invite to have a message in room you can deal with the girls. Couple of them are goodlooking.

[Fed_Up]

Great post Bro Nortap,

Like you, I sometimes go to one of those so called High Class Spas to relax and unwind. Its a nice change from SG massage parlours because of the ambience. There are a couple that provide G-strings for male customers, thereby allowing the massuese more access to your bum and groin area. It can be a turn on not knowing what to expect, compared to HCs.

Could you PM me the names of the 4 places mentioned? Would like to experience first hand. If you massueses to recommend, would appreciate if you could provide as well.

Thanks in advance!

[nortap]

I know SPA at 5 star US hotel in Scotts road if you invite to have a message in room you can deal with the girls. Couple of them are goodlooking.

Yes, know which one you are talking of but it is not in my list of 4; got the info from ex-employee who now with a different spa.

[nortap]

Great post Bro No

Could you PM me the names of the 4 places mentioned? Would like to experience first hand. If you massueses to recommend, would appreciate if you could provide as well.

Thanks in advance!

Matter has been dealt with as stated.

[lucifier]

Hi,

Thanks for the wonderful post. Could I know the 4 places and their location. If possible, the gal that I can try and the damage. There are a few place which I find are quite classy and I would like to try out. Had to wait for my pay day first. We can exchange info., so as try to lessen your damage.

Thanks in advance

[nortap]

[QUOTE=lucifier]Hi

Task completed

[nortap]

Have atlast managed to clear all PMs; each one has been replied; only one has kicked back as box full - enzer88.

Hopefully no more PMs.

Congrats to Hooters666!!!

Lawry, you are a great guy!!!Thanks!!!

[nortap]

Cautionary Note:

The general impression from the PMs is that brothers seem to have high expectations.Am getting scared that I will be blamed if their expectations are not met

Please, the Spa scene cannot and should not be compared to the HC scene.

If the interest is only hand services it is better to go to Dragon, Aven, Lexon etc

You have to be into massages to enjoy the experience.

The purpose of my visits was to test out the myth that Spas do not have hand services.Please note have not used the word ' offered '

Please, specials not offered; it is up to us to pick up hints and /or give hint.

Please do not routinely expect young ones; you have to scheme to get one if available as there are only a handful. Most are mature, experienced ladies either school educated as therapist or with hands on training.

[edkoh2000]

Cautionary Note:

The general impression from the PMs is that brothers seem to have high expectations.Am getting scared that I will be blamed if their expectations are not met

Please, the Spa scene cannot and should not be compared to the HC scene.

If the interest is only hand services it is better to go to Dragon, Aven, Lexon etc

You have to be into massages to enjoy the experience.

The purpose of my visits was to test out the myth that Spas do not have hand services.Please note have not used the word ' offered '

Please, specials not offered; it is up to us to pick up hints and /or give hint.

Please do not routinely expect young ones; you have to scheme to get one if available as there are only a handful. Most are mature, experienced ladies either school educated as therapist or with hands on training.

Good post. Just PM you.

[sdms]

Like you, I sometimes go to one of those so called High Class Spas to relax and unwind. Its a nice change from SG massage parlours because of the ambience. There are a couple that provide G-strings for male customers, thereby allowing the massuese more access to your bum and groin area. It can be a turn on not knowing what to expect, compared to HCs.


which SPAs provide G-strings? very interested.
Thanks

[nortap]

G string have not come across; mostly boxer shorts which gives full access.
Infact during ' stress relief massage ' or ' relaxation massage ' when one is face down they pull down the boxer half way down the buttocks and when they do leg upwards they reach till the thigh joints but all this without touching the sensitive areas.

G string have come across in the Sofitel Hotel Spa in Siem Reap

[nortap]

Absolutely baffling.My surprise remains unabated.Truly cannot understand this extraordinary interest in hand services at Spas when every service imaginable is available at other places such as HCs etc and that too by young ones with great bodies.

My purpose was to test the general perception.
This proven wrong to my satisfaction.
End of matter.

Please brothers, the individual Spa regulations do not allow deviations from stated services and thus,the girls can easily get in to trouble and once that happens they will lose their job and also cannot get another job in the same industry.

Thanks a lot.

[jordi]

Absolutely baffling.My surprise remains unabated.Truly cannot understand this extraordinary interest in hand services at Spas when every service imaginable is available at other places such as HCs etc and that too by young ones with great bodies.

My purpose was to test the general perception.
This proven wrong to my satisfaction.
End of matter.

Please brothers, the individual Spa regulations do not allow deviations from stated services and thus,the girls can easily get in to trouble and once that happens they will lose their job and also cannot get another job in the same industry.

Thanks a lot.


I guess it is the "thrill" of getting such hand services from upmarket joints when it is actually not on the menu of services they provide.

I must salute you for taking time and effort to do yr FR. Cld you PM me the locations of the 4 ? Am wondering if i am a member of one of them ... thanks.

[Fed_Up]

which SPAs provide G-strings? very interested.
Thanks

Bro,

PMed you, check your inbox!

[nortap]

[QUOTE=Fed_Up]

Thanks a lot.

See PM to you.

[glenn553]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:

1st Spa - Opted for Relaxation Massage at 126net for 60 minutes.Was led into a tastefully furnished, elegant and cozy room with light music wafting around, sweet aroma incense was burning and there was a glass walled shower.With in seconds a therapist appeared, offered a cup of tea and requested that all clothing be removed and lie face down on the massage table.Did so after a quick shower.The massage was relaxing; as good as Phuket Banyan Tree/ Langkawi Datai.
Several times the therapist touched the sensitive areas.After turning over, this touchy-touchy business increased but nothing was said.
Soon massage over; thanked therapist, showered, got dressed and left.
At this stage not sure whether the touching part was inevitable as it was part of massage hand movements or it was a hint to explore further.

2nd Spa - As grand as the previous Spa.Chose Indon Massage at 95net for 45 minutes.Room well appointed with shower.Excllent massage.This time, after turning over, the therapist started talking of her many customers who ask for 'charlie massage ' and how she has to do it on the quiet as she did not want to lose customers and besides it was added income.Ofcourse hand only and of course free roaming allowed; cost 70, therapist mature nice looking lady.

3rd Spa - Excellent set up, lots of comfort; spacious room with shower.Opted for salt brushing/ scrub followed by massage at 155net.
Heavenly scrub and superb massage.After turning over, therapist started talking generalities; so asked point blank - reply no surprise but was advised better to make appointment off peak period and anycase only hand and free roaming; cost is upto client.

4th Spa - This exclusive and restrictive; not easy to get in.Attractive and luxurious setup.Selected Basic Beginner Massage for destressing and improving circulation at 105net for 60 minutes.The treatment was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable.The therapist attractive and shapely.Casually using carefully selected language sought information on possibilities.Was advised only hand possible at the Spa but can make outside appointment and ofcourse cost is left to client.

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

Thanks bro for your info on the local spas :)

[Reeemer]

Great post, bro.

Up your rep.

Kindly PM me the name of the 4 spas you mentioned.

I go to such places and adore the thrill of expecting the unexpected with matured ladies.

Cheers
:D

[jordi]

dear bros who have been to SPAs which issue you a g string to wear, ... can we expect things to happen differently there ?

[sdms]

Bro, PMed you, check your inbox!

Thanks to Fed_Up. I try "G-string" massage for 2 days.
Damage: 2 x $120.
First time very siok but 2nd time the excitement is much reduced. Most likely because the "unknown" factor is gone.
Was served by the same "mature lady" (aunty) for both session. Used a lot of oils. Need to wash throughly (include hair).

"Special" not offered. I also did not ask.

[ra17mong]

Been to these top-end spas before, was even a member of one before I stopped when I loss my job last year (but dunno whether it's the same as the 4 "surveyed"). Agreed that most of the time is matured auntie that it doing the massage. The yound beautiful staff only do counter servics. :rolleyes:

But the massage in these places is good. Always suspected something "special" could be asked for but never did really have the courage to "hint".

Anyway, great research.

[WHAM]

Great thread here started by Nortap ! Any more experiences to share ? Due to competition, these Spas are getting cheaper and I also heard that the therapists are getting younger and more daring ! The Spas are increasingly targetting men as the women market is almost saturated. Any brothers who have had a wonderful experience care to share it here or can PM me if rather maintain dicreet.

[Bummer73]

Hey Nortap,

Interested in where u are talking abt. Care to share?

Have always wanted to visited places like these eversince I've been to the shanghai ones- great facility, ok looking gals, great massage and service, complimentry HJ, of course the package is not cheap, but it's damn shiok.

[owen10]

wow ... if bros wanna test water @ other upmarket spas, then gotta prepare to fork out steep tuition fees like our bro here. entrance fee is high, at least 2 or 3x yr normal TN. but of cos d svc u get is different n environment much better. perhaps may try to pamper myslf after gettin bonus ... tis type of thing once in a blue moon for poor man like me.

[HC Men]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:

1st Spa - Opted for Relaxation Massage at 126net for 60 minutes.Was led into a tastefully furnished, elegant and cozy room with light music wafting around, sweet aroma incense was burning and there was a glass walled shower.With in seconds a therapist appeared, offered a cup of tea and requested that all clothing be removed and lie face down on the massage table.Did so after a quick shower.The massage was relaxing; as good as Phuket Banyan Tree/ Langkawi Datai.
Several times the therapist touched the sensitive areas.After turning over, this touchy-touchy business increased but nothing was said.
Soon massage over; thanked therapist, showered, got dressed and left.
At this stage not sure whether the touching part was inevitable as it was part of massage hand movements or it was a hint to explore further.

2nd Spa - As grand as the previous Spa.Chose Indon Massage at 95net for 45 minutes.Room well appointed with shower.Excllent massage.This time, after turning over, the therapist started talking of her many customers who ask for 'charlie massage ' and how she has to do it on the quiet as she did not want to lose customers and besides it was added income.Ofcourse hand only and of course free roaming allowed; cost 70, therapist mature nice looking lady.

3rd Spa - Excellent set up, lots of comfort; spacious room with shower.Opted for salt brushing/ scrub followed by massage at 155net.
Heavenly scrub and superb massage.After turning over, therapist started talking generalities; so asked point blank - reply no surprise but was advised better to make appointment off peak period and anycase only hand and free roaming; cost is upto client.

4th Spa - This exclusive and restrictive; not easy to get in.Attractive and luxurious setup.Selected Basic Beginner Massage for destressing and improving circulation at 105net for 60 minutes.The treatment was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable.The therapist attractive and shapely.Casually using carefully selected language sought information on possibilities.Was advised only hand possible at the Spa but can make outside appointment and ofcourse cost is left to client.

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.CAN I HAVE THE NAME AND PLACE OF THE 4TH SPA YOU MENTION PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hag4]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:

1st Spa - Opted for Relaxation Massage at 126net for 60 minutes.Was led into a tastefully furnished, elegant and cozy room with light music wafting around, sweet aroma incense was burning and there was a glass walled shower.With in seconds a therapist appeared, offered a cup of tea and requested that all clothing be removed and lie face down on the massage table.Did so after a quick shower.The massage was relaxing; as good as Phuket Banyan Tree/ Langkawi Datai.
Several times the therapist touched the sensitive areas.After turning over, this touchy-touchy business increased but nothing was said.
Soon massage over; thanked therapist, showered, got dressed and left.
At this stage not sure whether the touching part was inevitable as it was part of massage hand movements or it was a hint to explore further.

2nd Spa - As grand as the previous Spa.Chose Indon Massage at 95net for 45 minutes.Room well appointed with shower.Excllent massage.This time, after turning over, the therapist started talking of her many customers who ask for 'charlie massage ' and how she has to do it on the quiet as she did not want to lose customers and besides it was added income.Ofcourse hand only and of course free roaming allowed; cost 70, therapist mature nice looking lady.

3rd Spa - Excellent set up, lots of comfort; spacious room with shower.Opted for salt brushing/ scrub followed by massage at 155net.
Heavenly scrub and superb massage.After turning over, therapist started talking generalities; so asked point blank - reply no surprise but was advised better to make appointment off peak period and anycase only hand and free roaming; cost is upto client.

4th Spa - This exclusive and restrictive; not easy to get in.Attractive and luxurious setup.Selected Basic Beginner Massage for destressing and improving circulation at 105net for 60 minutes.The treatment was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyable.The therapist attractive and shapely.Casually using carefully selected language sought information on possibilities.Was advised only hand possible at the Spa but can make outside appointment and ofcourse cost is left to client.

Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.

Hi bro, well done on the report. Like what they say, I always wonder if they do, now we know...I have been a regular at this spa Orchard shopping centre and have not been offered..please share your list plus massuer's name, hope to try soon. thank you sir

[rubberking]

Those spa they conducted those services like contour wraps.. What do u wear during these wraps session? naked ?

And how about those aromatic baths... do they come in and pour oil for u?

Can we wear our own briefs during massage in these spa?

[rubberking]

Hi I have seen alot of neighbourhood spas...

Any brudder have tried these neighbourhood spas which provide specials??
care to share their experience?

[cowboywin]

nortap good job in finding out and breaking the myth. ur are the man. i have frequented a top spa, the g -string massage is everytime and shiok recently many young ladies also.

nortap, can u pm that 4 spas name

[gonggong18]

Collected info as went primarily to test the myth .....Met outside premises, by private appointment, one of the therapists for relaxation, leisure and related services to enhance such enjoyment!!What can I say!!!
I am impressed, up yr point liao

[Fook-me]

bro nortap,pls pm me the list. thanks

[Glenn Miller]

Yo guys,

New around here. Could you please tell me which spas provide g-strings for guys instead of boxers for the massage?

Thanks :)

[chobulah]

Really like your post on the upmarket SPAs. Have been cheonging HCs but have switched to such SPAs recently. Can PM me the names of those SPAs ? named? Appreciated it.

[creator]

would love to try out the spas u mentioned bro ..can pm me pls?

why not everyone of us recce a top of the line spa..to add to this thread

[creator]

bro nortap?

[chobulah]

went to aromatic house recently. situated at the 1st level of Orchard Hotel Shopping Arcade. World SPA is at the 3rd level.

Went for the aromatherapy massage. Set me back $120 for 60 mins. The therapist is an old lady. No hanky panky. Was told to wear a G-string. Massage was good and solid.

[ra17mong]

I've tried quite a few up-market spa places. So far these places I've been offered no hanky panky.

Most of these places would asked that you wear boxer shorts. And they tend to avoid the sensitive area during massage... :(

I got the list from bro Nortap previously but haven't had chance to explore the list except the first one. I was asked to ask to wear disposable underwear and lady avioded my sensitive area.. so sad.

Plan to explore the rest of the list soon. I prefer the up market spas cause the massage is much better, very soothing and relaxing. Of cause best is if they give full package so can relax "body and soul" mah. Hope to have good news soon. :)

[nortap]

ra17mong:

- start by not wearing; if reminded then request exemption as do not feel comfortable; cannot relax etc so sorry no wear, it is OK for me, no problem etc
- relax and let the body go soft; do not be tense
- smile and converse gently with therapist

Agree, the first spa requires a bit of effort as therapists are afraid of losing job as they earn a decent living.

Spas 2 & 3 is not difficult but not an easy walkover either but can confirm that there is action at both; therapists are more courageous - confirmed as of Dec, 2007.

[nortap]

ArseneWenger:

My reply to your PM has been kicked back saying that you are either not receiving messages or you cannot.
Whatever...
Just wanted you to know that I did reply and answer your query.

[bennzi]

bro....finally this thread is revived..after soo long...any new places to intro?? i m sure 2007 sure have some gem discovery on ur side.......

btw....can pm spa 2&3......thks!

[nortap]

For ltc1
My reply to you PM has kicked back.

[megatop]

Gd FR, Bro Nortap! Can u PM me details of the spas? Thks.

[jordi]

wow ... this thread is alive again after 3 years !

Bro nortap, can PM me the places. I tried out one in 2005 but there was no action ....

[neveronsunday]

bro nortap, can share the location of the spas ?

[nortap]

Some Samsters seem to have figured out any/some locations and they seem to have actually visited the place/s. This has had unintended unsatisfactory consequences primarily due to their poor reading of the situation and lack of understanding of the protocol at these places.

As a matter of abundant precaution, the following are stated for being forearmed:

1. These are real spas; these are not like upmarket HCs
2. The therapists are not DHC like SYTs; they are more like mature ladies and/or MILFs
3. They do not directly offer 'specials' or 'extra services'; if they did, it would be 'no news'
4. The treatments are above average and in most cases outstanding by Regional Standards including Banyan Tree and Four Seasons.
5. The point is that you can get specials if you so desire-meaning that they are not above par-with necessary and sufficient tact and technique; in fact some of the hjs may be classified as superior just because of style and method.

In sum, this is not everybody's cup of tea; acceptance of this is likely to be a minority; the treatments are significantly more expensive than the most expensive HC. Those that seek guaranteed return and value for money should go to places where they are sure of getting what they seek.

This is for certain types of thrill seekers who, it is believed may not be common.

[nortap]

Recommended reading:
At Sam's Coffee Shop
Thread-'They go for massages, then ask'.

[mercedes500]

been to spas within hotels quite abit in the last year with gf.....
on sentosa,in marina area,fullerton, can attest to the quality of the massage experience.....to the point when after the massage and retiring for the night you don't even feel like you need to have sex.....

well besides the ladies in the spa(i have not tried to hint for obvious reasons since i frequent them with the gf).....the hotel recept...club lounge managers are also quite open to it.....

[nortap]

Quite agree with Mercedes500.
Recent cases:
1. Guy goes to club; so happens runs into club's lady PR/GRO manager; chitchats;asks and gets a date; first date successful.
2. Guy dates a mamasan who he has met a few times before;asks and gets a date; first date successful.
Did an experiment in NOV 07 on getting dates at a club; will write on this, one of these days.
Everything is possible at most places and on most occasions; most being 75%chance. Or, so we think based on our persoanl experiences.

[conjurer]

That is cool bro Nortap. Looking forward to your stories... :)

[nortap]

Taking off from where Mercedes500 left the message in his post, here is an example.
Did a test experiment in Nov 2007; to test the hypothesis that the chances are better than even of dating an unknown girl at first attempt in a conducive environment.
The brief notes are:
-Venue is a popular club off Kim Seng Road
-Visited on Fridays and Saturdays after 2200hrs, during Nov; total ten visits including Dec 1
-Purpose was to meet, greet. chit chat a likable random girl who seems to be without a partner and try and get a date if found suitable for such a date
-In all visits put together, identified over 30 girls who it was felt were in girl groups without a male partner; during observation period, anywhere from 30 minutes to 90 minutes, nearly ten of them seem to have disappeared/ atleast not visible (could have gone to other areas of the club). Another 5 went with other guys who they seemed to know.
-This left 15
-Approached all 15 and invited either for a drink or a dance
-3 declined stating that they were waiting for a friend
-4 said that perhaps the next time they meet at the same venue, may be they may join for a drink/a dance number; this time cannot as they were with office colleagues
-8 agreed!! had a drink/danced/talked-they had their own friends as they came in a group and yet they decided to join an outsider for some time atleast
- 4 did not provide enough interest to continue the chit chat, so had to extricate
-1 liked girls only for dates
- the remaining 3, managed to get dates; one for supper the same night and two for dinner the following week.
Conclusion: yes, can get a date!!

[ra17mong]

Tested a bit further.

When to the second place in bro Nortap's list.

Served by a matured lady. Was also asked to wear disposable underwear. Halfway through, I ask if I can take the underwear off as I feel uncomfortable. The lady agree and pull it off. I asked if it's common for customer to take off underwear. She said it's common, especially big size ang moh in which underwear too small for them.. lol. After a while, ask point blank if they do any "special". She apologise and say no.. so sad.

When back to first place... this time was serbed by a young pretty lady.. this is a first time for me cause never see young pretty lady in these places before. Tried asking if I can take off the underwear cause not comfortable... but she say cannot... :(

Seems like I have no luck for these places. Well.. will still go back to these places cause the massage is good. :o

[nortap]

Bravo!!
Surprised at your perseverance.
Hope you are amply rewarded to justify the time and effort
besides money spent in pursuit of your goals.

Sometimes, it may be wiser to forget this and going to your
favourite HC where you are sure of getting what you desire.

[tubi27]

Nortap,

I applaud your research. Well done!

I too frequent a few of these so called 'up-mkt' spas usually abroad and my experience with them have been NIL on specials so far, unfortunately. Even some mid-tier ones I have tried in BKK also came up empty.

I'm thinking the odds of finding one is like 1/10? I would love to find one in SG where I can have a happy ending but it becomes a very frustrating (and expensive!) exercise in the end...

If you do know of somewhere I can find my odds improving, kindly pm. I promise a FR.

Cheers,
T

[wethon]

Went to this spa inside a country club recently... near history museum... the massage was good, and the therapist was a SYT with CFM looks and great boobs. While doing my foot scrub, can look down her cleavage, wah! nose bleed... massage time also got brush my privates a bit here and there

But did not ask her about the extra services cos was with CO.... in the end cannot tahan got to DIY in the shower... haha

[nortap]

For those that are planning to check out a high end spa, please be informed that some fellow samsters who have recently been to one or more have expressed disappointment as they could not get any specials.
This is just to clarify that I just tested a hypothesis and was satisfied that the reality is that they do cater to local customer needs, though discreetly.
I have had this validated as recently as Dec 2007.
Of course, there is no guarantee that sure get special; much depends on tackling and friendliness; the therapist is not going to openly offer but if she trusts you or there is chemistry then she may indicate indirectly.
If looking for SYT and sure full service and at a lower cost, then select a HC like, say, DHC. This way sure no disappointment.

[ra17mong]

Well, what bro Nortap say is true.

If you enjoy the massage, by all means visit these place, don't go just for the sake of 'special' as you are likely to be disappointed if you have no luck like me.

For me, I keep going back cause I like the massage. The massage is much much better than HC (touch touch only) and TN (which is sometime quite painful, though effective). So I go to these places for relaxing.. just hoping for relaxing of both "body" and "soul" that's all.... :D

Also.. if you want to visit these places, just be prepared to spend.. massage in these places is not exactly cheap.

I will let the Bros here know if my luck ever change.. haha. Until then, wish me good luck.

[tubi27]

Good luck to all bros who are heading down this route. I guess there is no harm in trying one's luck esp if you go in with right frame of mind ie, I just want a good massage in a nice environment...anything else is a bonus!

Now, what is perhaps another interesting market segment is what I call the neighbourhood beauty parlours/spas which are not chains. I'm sure in every location, bros would have come across a few individual beauty shops/spas that presumably cater to their loyal clients. They are usually on the ground floor of shop houses, well decorated, endorsed with their respective beauty products and offer facials for women.

I have enquired once at one particular shop and they do massage men too. If I recall it was $70/hour or something like that but must book in advance. Too bad I had to cancel as something came up at work

Anyone had any luck with these shops? Bro Nortap?

Cheers,
T

[nortap]

You hit the nail on the head!
Yes, this did happen.
Had always speculated that it must be possible but since no opportunity, forgot all about it.

When this did happen, did no posting on it was not possible to disclose name of place, location, name of girl etc
Now, the girl already left, much married and got baby too!


This is a beauty salon, independently owned by a lady who was in a steady relationship at that time when I met her in 2006 and she got married in 2007.

I met her, by accident, at a supermarket, we chatted while waiting to pay.
Once I knew she ran a beauty salon, I went there to get mani/pedi.
First visit I got a lecture how it was exclusive ladies, but I would be exempt because she already met me and understands me etc

After few visits, I switched from my previous place since the service was good and the prices lower.

As we became familiar, the owner suggested facial and I agreed.

It was then that I said I should ask for massage as they do for ladies anyway.

I asked and it was granted; as this was a ladies place, I could have massage only when therapist was available outside the store hours. The owner lady picked the immediate Sunday, selected one of her girls, introduced her and informed me to go down to the store on that Sunday at 8:00am as store opens at 10:00am.


Was there on time, the therapist was already there. As soon as I walked in the doors were closed and outside lights shut off; the therapist explained that it was done since place not yet open for business.

The moment I was told to change for massage, I did so without a boxer as usual. The therapist protested and mumbled but after I explained my position, accepted with some slight dissent but it was clear to me that it was not a problem and quite welcome.

The massage was quite good but typical ladies' style, the way the shoulders and thighs were done; anyways, more than satisfactory. Towards the end twice my privates were touched and I assumed it was not accidental; but had no courage to talk since owner my friend and she knows.

Out of the blue she started talking abour her money problems; sure we all understand!!She said that she would do whatever required to make me happy; asked her how much and she said she left it me.

All in all it was fun; a rookie, no talent as no experience but sometimes this a pleasurable experience.

This happened in November 2006, the girl no longer works there as she is fulltime housewife. The salon still there but as far as I know they do not take guys; anycase I no longer go there as I switched to another place.

[tubi27]

Nortap,

An excellent FR! Thank you.

Looks like you experienced what I was looking for!

Noted that the whole scenario was rather serendipitous but at least there was a possibility. There are several beauty shops I have come across but I have yet to try them as most of them operate on normal business hours. Usually 9am to 6pm which coincide obviously with my own working hours. Weekends not possible for now.

There is one I'm eyeing in the East but usually closes by 730pm. One day if I get off work early, I'll give it a try and post a FR.

Cheers,
T

[rolffy]

Nortap,
Excellent experiment! I'm new in the forum but do visit upmarket spa every now & then but never asked for special and always wear something. Would u care to pm the list for me to try. Will add FR if successful. Thanks in advance.

[Glen2712]

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[orche]

Bro Nortap! Can u PM me details of the spas? Thks.;)

[orche]

Bro Nortap! Can u PM me details of the spas? Thks.:;)

[nortap]

To those that seek to visit these spas, please read post # 78 in this thread before you venture.
This also serves as a reminder for ROCKO2008.
The chance of being allotted a SYT for a massage for a male is LOW; there is no guarantee.

[Rocko2008]

Thks Bro Nortap, noted the advice, as in PM, was pleasantly surprised cos have visited at least one of the lot......will try number 3 cos going there for some business....let's see how the thing work out.

[nortap]

Good Luck to you; can confirm there is action; it is the luck of the draw!!

[orche]

Good Luck to you; can confirm there is action; it is the luck of the draw!!

Hi Bros nortap, just wondering if I'm satisfied with one of the masseur, can the customer request for the same lady for repeat visit when doing advance booking?:p

[nortap]

Yes, you can and should, if you are happy; they will, of course, honour your request as they will get a regular.
Remember, not all of them work all days.

[kosheen]

hi bro, thx for sharing!

[imaginative]

Tried out another top notch spa, Wellness spa at Pan Pacific forth floor.

Can't remember name of therapist but she should be in forties.
Chinese, local.

Massage ok. But no special offer. And nothing sensual happened during massage.

Would like to mention about the "beauty advisor" - one called Vivien, face not bad, but C cup assets. Another called Susan, face 7.5/10, but A cup.
Too bad they don't do massage. :D

[nortap]

imaginative:

Not surprised; everwhere at these places it is mature ladies/MILFs.

The chance of getting to savour expertise in a low possibility but when it happens it is a thrill.

Ofcourse,it is possible, most certainly at a HC and if you are a regular you will get the best in treament and derive the height of pleasure at your favorite HC.

At a top spa it is a different thrill, probably because it is not easy to attain; also, the credentials are higher than a HC; also, the skills are different and drive to ecstasy; also, if lucky can have all of the above plus a good looking, shapely, friendly girl!!!

Yes, it costs more money for wild goose chase but whether it is worth it or not, depends on the individual. At a HC or with a FL, the and result is guaranteed and probably or most likely at a lower cost. Guess,to each his own.

Wish you Good Luck to achieve your goals.

[imaginative]

imaginative:

At a top spa it is a different thrill, probably because it is not easy to attain; also, the credentials are higher than a HC; also, the skills are different and drive to ecstasy; also, if lucky can have all of the above plus a good looking, shapely, friendly girl!!!

Yes, it costs more money for wild goose chase but whether it is worth it or not, depends on the individual. At a HC or with a FL, the and result is guaranteed and probably or most likely at a lower cost. Guess,to each his own.

Wish you Good Luck to achieve your goals.

Bro nortap,
Well said. Yes, in a HC or TN, you get what you expected as long as you pay for it.
But in a properly set up spa, it depends on luck. And once you got it, it's a totally different thrill.

[omnia]

Firstly good write up bro, very interesting take.

I have tried an upmarket spa at the Merchant Court Hotel quite sometime back, with the hot stones treament plus massage, no hanky panky as such but I did enjoy getting the treatment from a SYT local gal looked in her mid 20s, silky soft hands which brushed against my dick and balls afew times, perhaps accidentally as I did not take things further, luckily without the stones:D

I have also tried the Banyan Tree Spa in Bangkok quite afew times. Very posh and nice, most of the gals are SYTs but professional, no hanky panky. One of them even told me that she had massaged Ho Kwon Pin (the S'pore owner) quite afew times but he always wore shorts:D

imaginative:

Not surprised; everwhere at these places it is mature ladies/MILFs.

The chance of getting to savour expertise in a low possibility but when it happens it is a thrill.

Ofcourse,it is possible, most certainly at a HC and if you are a regular you will get the best in treament and derive the height of pleasure at your favorite HC.

At a top spa it is a different thrill, probably because it is not easy to attain; also, the credentials are higher than a HC; also, the skills are different and drive to ecstasy; also, if lucky can have all of the above plus a good looking, shapely, friendly girl!!!

Yes, it costs more money for wild goose chase but whether it is worth it or not, depends on the individual. At a HC or with a FL, the and result is guaranteed and probably or most likely at a lower cost. Guess,to each his own.

Wish you Good Luck to achieve your goals.

[max_priest]

........ at she had massaged Ho Kwon Pin (the S'pore owner) quite afew times but he always wore shorts:D

Ho Kwon Ping's wife is sophisticated and elegant .. Claire Chang ... Hence no need to lah ... :D

[nortap]

Merchant Court, have not tried; Banyan Tree Bangkok, yes have tried--yes, massage only. Also, tried Banyan Tree Phuket--same as Bangkok but much bigger and larger rooms. Most certainly like their massages.
Great experience at Datai Hotel at Langkawi; the spa's supervisor used to work here before. Liked everything there.
Looks as though the local HC and FL business is down, although that is not the impression from the posts and threads here at SBF.

[omnia]

Claire Chiang now looks past it bro, also she has given birth to 4 kids so I suspect her pussy might be quite loose. I would not be surprised if KP Ho fools around discretely considering all the exotic locations of Banyan;)
Ho Kwon Ping's wife is sophisticated and elegant .. Claire Chang ... Hence no need to lah ... :D

[omnia]

Does that mean that you also experienced the 'specials':D

Btw I was at the Shang Rasa Sentosa over the weekend and tried their aroma massage at their Spa, nice and pleasant, done by a cute local SYT in her early 20s but no specials.

.
Great experience at Datai Hotel at Langkawi; the spa's supervisor used to work here before. Liked everything there.
.

[nortap]

OMNIA:
a. Yes

b. Yes, possible as have benefitted before but that one got married and stopped working; last validation was in December, second week 2007. May be you decided to let pass; difficult to accept as your tricky mind working in mysterious ways would have made tacit attempts to obtain benefits.

Anyways, that Datai Spa Supervisor was working as therapist at the same place that you are familiar with and have been to in recent days.

[ra17mong]

During one of the trip, I was chatting up the lady who was massaging me (young, not exactly sweet but pleasant looking). She was telling me that most of the ladies who does massage are working part time. They will hope from spa to spa as and when there is work. Maybe this is the type of ladies that will provide the "specials". Since even if found out, at most warning (since not full time employee) and worst come to worst, just don't work for that spa but still go others mah.

Most full time one will be quite "strict" as in insisting on disposable undies or boxes.

[nortap]

Agree; know of at least three therapists who work at three different spas; they work at each place twice a week; you can get the day they work from the reception or direct from them. Also, when there is a big event in town, they are summoned to work longer hours on their days of duty and extra hours on other days, subject to their avilability.
One thing is for sure, if they get caught they are not going to be able to stay in top spas as some have same corporate owners, the network reference system is strong and rejection is strongly enforced.
Only option then is to work at a downgrade spa or go freelance based on a few regulars.
Overall, do agree with you on your concept.
Strict enforcement examples are Banyan Tree, Amrita, Amanpuri etc

[omnia]

Very interesting and thanks for the heads up bro. I guess I must give Datai a try come my next short break, also may check out Shang Rasa Sentosa again as well may get lucky next time around eh:D

OMNIA:
a. Yes

b. Yes, possible as have benefitted before but that one got married and stopped working; last validation was in December, second week 2007. May be you decided to let pass; difficult to accept as your tricky mind working in mysterious ways would have made tacit attempts to obtain benefits.

Anyways, that Datai Spa Supervisor was working as therapist at the same place that you are familiar with and have been to in recent days.

[homeusb]

Hi Bro Nortap,

After reading so much, I also feel like "upgrading" myself to a more upmarket spa.

Is it possible for u to pm me the locations of the spas?

thanks..:)

[Rocko2008]

Did not try number 3 but tried the "sister" (those who know location of 3 can easily identify the place, managed to get someone not so advanced. FR as follows:

Went there ard 8pm, hey I was there for business so cannot daytime....they open til 10pm, so still got time. Asked for aroma massage.....recep was quite babe, must agree with Bro Nortap, aint cheap, cost me ard $150. Was ask to wait then a young gal came and ask me to follow her....wah sai, thought I struck gold liao....go into room, ask me to take off and change to disposable undies...me already hard liao....gerl went out...as changing was imagining how it is like liao....lie down and wait...then door knock, I say cum in....took a look and aiyah....was not that earlier gal....TCSS a bit then realise the earlier gal only recep....aiyah...

Anyway, massage was good and the lady was not exactly old auntie lah....understand she malaysian and late 30s. A bit fleshy. Best part was when she mounted me, from the back lah and I think rest on my butt....felt no much weight....then rub the back....hmmm....good feeling on back n between legs....after massage, no bath....according to her, shld not bath after massage...bad for health, something to do with pores opening and water getting in....so did not bath....

After massage went back, had a really good sleep.

Conclusion: we can hope but cannot guaranteed.

Btw, Bro Nortap, thks for info....may go n try number 2 today....

[bugmenot]

Any bros ever experienced hard-ons during massage when accidental touching of Mr Willy or his two nuts esp with SYT therapist? Can't imagine if your C.O is just next to you during a couple massage!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[buggler]

I went to a top of line spa in a newly named, but been there for some time, hotel in orchard road area last week. Lady doing massage about 30 and not pretty. When was massaging hand brushed a bit close in but not sure. Then she was mumbling while doing my shoulders. Then I think she just brush her lips against my head. Then when I turn over she went in her close around private parts. Well she is not pretty but I am relaxed and it got a bit hard. When adjusting towel she had a good feel of it. Went to other leg to work on and pulled little brother out of disposable panties and went to work. Not a word spoken. Well she not nice to look at so I am not really interested that much but she would not stop. Had to imagine sexy girl. When finished whole thing she gave me a note. Read it later weird religious/computer/politics stuff. Poor lady not well in head. Strangest experience ever.

Oh and one time was with CO in Bintan wearing sarong nothing else; little brother pop out head. Lady give me a smile and pop him back under sarong. CO did not see. But could noy DIY in shower later.

[HughGrant]

as menioned by many bros, its difficult to get specials esp from these nice looking spas.

i went recently to a well decorated and spunk looking unisex spa but ended no specials. in fact, the lady deliberately avioded the areas near the groin. also, trying to strike up a conversation takes a bit of effort and somehow blunts the massage experience as i usually like to relax and keep quiet during the massage.

bro nortap, any pointers? :D

[nortap]

What to say?
Perhaps, just luck of the draw, in adddition to some effort.
Relax, let go, smile.
The massages are good so must focus on that; use last twenty minutes to
converse; of course, must introduce oneself initially, talk seriously on type of massage. Ultimately, have to flirt and joke; all of them know anyway; it is a question of faith and trust.

[Rocko2008]

Well, well well, today skiving so decided to try for some spa n what an experience, did not regret. Went to this supposed high end spa, ok lah, mid range lah, wait kena flame. Wait n went in room, gal was quite nice, not pretty but sweet looking n prob early 30. Introduce as F, apparently from Vietnam, nowadays, the FTs just get more n more varied. TCTC a bit. Asked to change into briefs, decided to be cheeky n asked can dont wear cos rub against thigh, me a boxer person, she said ok....huat ah

Told me take off clothes liao lie on bed, then the knock on door n she came in. Massage was real good n she has a way of rubbing the buttocks n inner thighs to cause a tingling sensation. lucky was prone or else sure marikita. After a while told to turn over.....lucky hardon soft liao.

But after a while of thigh massage, can see towel moving, said sorry but she just smiled n carry on. Noticed that she put more pressure now on thighs. Nearly came. No hanky panky to end of massage but the sensation was good.

Best part when finished she did not leave room when I changing so managed to flash her a bit. Took my time putting on clothes. Overall, good massage.

Wld go back since got package n ask for her, who knows, few more times, she might let on to something else....if not, that there yet not there feeling also shiok. With a shower attached....hmmmm....things can get interesting.

Dont ask for stats, place dim so did not check out.

[69-king]

Indeed interesting to "flash" especially when nothing happens...:P

I am into this "flashing fetish" too....

Cheers

[AirAsia]

One thing good about spa and HC is can relax for massage and service or not, depend on mood. ;)

[bochapsing]

I am into this "flashing fetish" too....


am into "flashing fetish" too..

a FR of my nice experience on a spa in batam that i have posted sometime ago..

"..had a couple spa package at our resort..
had our scrub side by side in a room by 2 masseuse, follow by steam in a steam room.. then oil massage.. and body mask..
btw, we were only covered by a towel all the time..
of cos, during massage the masseuse hands will be all over your body, backs, legs, backside, but not groin area, thou more or less will brush against my didi..
after apply body mask, i was led to a seperate room with bathtub to wash away the "volcanic mud"..
surprisingly, the masseuse actually came back into the room and help me to bathe..
wow.. it's a wonderful feeling, esp. it's not from a WL which u will expect such service.. while enjoying the "flashing" moment too..
while she patiently wash through my body, she whisper to me, offering hj to me..
i politely turn her down, mainly cos i was with wife..."

:cool::cool::cool:

[buggler]

Two years ago I got a hj from a "not right in the head" girl in a top of line Spa (see above). Maybe not top of line but in a 5 star hotel. Went back there 4 months later but lady was gone. Anyway went back a few times since some ladies working there would take long strokes up the leg and almost touch little head. Then 3 months ago lady says to me no need for the disposable underwear they make you wear and takes it off for me. Good massage but does not touch didi. Then when on back she moves to massage tummy and it stands to attention. She signals me to be quiet and gives me a professional hj rubbing balls and even sucking my nipple to make me come quick. Of course I go back 3 times more for same treatment. Tip her $50 each time. All very nice and happy all round. Then this week went, roll over on back, tummy massage starts, little bro reaches attention, i pull towel down a bit and nothing happens. I ask can and she says can not. I say but you did last time and just get a shrug from her. Man I like a clean massage fine, but I was aching afterwards from the unfulfilled expectation.

[bimmer99]

can pm 2nd and 3rd spa tks

[newyorker88]

It is generally perceived that top of the line local Spas are expensive and provide body treatments only i.e. ' no specials '.

Decided to test this; visited four of them ( there are not many anyway )and the results are:


Reality - Local spas understand local cuatomer needs and cater to the same.


You got to understand that ladies working in spas do not really earn much. Without extras, you think they can survive?
Of cos, they rather do it else where to avoid their boss booting them out.

[newyorker88]

All very nice and happy all round. Then this week went, roll over on back, tummy massage starts, little bro reaches attention, i pull towel down a bit and nothing happens. I ask can and she says can not. I say but you did last time and just get a shrug from her. Man I like a clean massage fine, but I was aching afterwards from the unfulfilled expectation.


Who knows? Maybe she is not in the mood tat day?:D

[newyorker88]

am into "flashing fetish" too..

a FR of my nice experience on a spa in batam that i have posted sometime ago..

wow.. it's a wonderful feeling, esp. it's not from a WL which u will expect such service.. while enjoying the "flashing" moment too..
while she patiently wash through my body, she whisper to me, offering hj to me..
i politely turn her down, mainly cos i was with wife..."

:

Not surprising, I had many baths before, and they HJ me after that. usually, it is how you talk to them. But giving you a HJ while your wife around? That is abit far stretched...

Your dick will appear red and swollen after a HJ or FJ, too risky. Later your wife ask did you PCC? :D

[satay08]

recall sometime ago at adelphi, long before all the TN and massage shops..i was at b1 and came across a advetisement for 'facial for men' at a relatively well known beauty saloon usually cater for women..i went in and was lead to a cubicle by a lady in uniform..she told me the 'beautician' will be in later..when she came in later i was surprised to see a smiling cute little syt prob <20 in a short dress..not sure why she was not in uniform though..she started the facial and i had to lie there for abt 30mins for the mask to dry..

after that she came in to remove the mask..that was when i took a closer look at her..wah lao, steam liao..super cute syt in a loose ,translucent little short dress..she was standing v close to me and her body was pressing against my arm..i tried my luck and touch her ass..no resistance !..ho say liao..hand went in to autoroam from top to bottom..managed to french her as well..but that was the furthest it went..i tip her a bit $$ later..went home cannot tahan had to PCC..ha ha

[ttttaann]

Hi Bros, Interesting thread. any locations to share? Can PM me? Tks

[newyorker88]

Hi Bros, Interesting thread. any locations to share? Can PM me? Tks

Can read up, before someone start zapping you.

[edkoh2000]

Well, well well, today skiving so decided to try for some spa n what an experience, did not regret. Went to this supposed high end spa, ok lah, mid range lah, wait kena flame. Wait n went in room, gal was quite nice, not pretty but sweet looking n prob early 30. Introduce as F, apparently from Vietnam, nowadays, the FTs just get more n more varied. TCTC a bit. Asked to change into briefs, decided to be cheeky n asked can dont wear cos rub against thigh, me a boxer person, she said ok....huat ah

Told me take off clothes liao lie on bed, then the knock on door n she came in. Massage was real good n she has a way of rubbing the buttocks n inner thighs to cause a tingling sensation. lucky was prone or else sure marikita. After a while told to turn over.....lucky hardon soft liao.

But after a while of thigh massage, can see towel moving, said sorry but she just smiled n carry on. Noticed that she put more pressure now on thighs. Nearly came. No hanky panky to end of massage but the sensation was good.

Best part when finished she did not leave room when I changing so managed to flash her a bit. Took my time putting on clothes. Overall, good massage.

Wld go back since got package n ask for her, who knows, few more times, she might let on to something else....if not, that there yet not there feeling also shiok. With a shower attached....hmmmm....things can get interesting.

Dont ask for stats, place dim so did not check out.

bro where is this place?Can PM me? I am into legal flashing also

[edkoh2000]

am into "flashing fetish" too..

a FR of my nice experience on a spa in batam that i have posted sometime ago..

"..had a couple spa package at our resort..
had our scrub side by side in a room by 2 masseuse, follow by steam in a steam room.. then oil massage.. and body mask..
btw, we were only covered by a towel all the time..
of cos, during massage the masseuse hands will be all over your body, backs, legs, backside, but not groin area, thou more or less will brush against my didi..
after apply body mask, i was led to a seperate room with bathtub to wash away the "volcanic mud"..
surprisingly, the masseuse actually came back into the room and help me to bathe..
wow.. it's a wonderful feeling, esp. it's not from a WL which u will expect such service.. while enjoying the "flashing" moment too..
while she patiently wash through my body, she whisper to me, offering hj to me..
i politely turn her down, mainly cos i was with wife..."

:cool::cool::cool:

Hi bro, can let me know where is this place?PM me

[edkoh2000]

Ok let me be fair and share my experience also.

I used to love to go to botanical spa at sentosa. They have this outdoor villa where you can showers outdoors naked. The villa is closed so outsiders cant see but the masseur attending to you can see full view. They will ask you to wear their briefs when you are being massage but after that you can take off everything when you shower.

Another plus point is that they have a larger pool area and usually if you are lucky, there will be japanese or european chicks in bikini.

No hanky panky but shiok. Its ex though.

Some 5 star hotels that I visited do provide HJ but usually are middle aged aunties. Have not managed to find young cute girls.

[bochapsing]

bro where is this place?Can PM me? I am into legal flashing also

"legal flashing"....??!! haha... tat's a nice term...

btw, i'm into tat too...

:D:D:D

[daring70]

just saw this in the papers today, probably a clean joint cos owned by mary chia but the cheongsam uniform sure looks yummy :)

http://www.herworld.com/beauty/reports/get-kneaded-back-shape

[poonani]

It is so clean that you can eat off their floors.

[daring70]

damn .... there's something about cheongsam that i find really alluring ....

[vmtech]

damn .... there's something about cheongsam that i find really alluring ....

Totally agree :)

[drippy]

Totally agree :)

Its the thought of silk rubbing on your skin that makes cheongsum alluring. Not to mention the tight fit that accentuates the curves.

[ttttaann]

Just to share my FR on this topic. Went to a middle to higher end male spa Hxxxxx. Was given a male terapist after changingin the disposable underwear n laying on the bed. Abit sian but asked if got female terapist as not used to having male, he gladly help me request n changed a female terapist. Waited a while n finally she came in 10mins later. Looks is slightly above average and ask me to prone done to massage the back first. When applying oil to my back, she pull down my underwear halfway down and stuff the towel under it. Then I asked if can remove as not so comfortable. She think for a while n say ok. I quickly got up and remove it, flashing her as I turn n walk back to the bed. She looked a little shy but did not say anything. Continue working n when she was massaging the tights, she used long hard strokes. Touching my bro a few times. She apologize at first(I purposely point bro downwards) but I say never mind. When flipping over, I already got a little hard on from the tight massage strokes. When she flapped the towel to adjust it, I heard her go "huh", think she saw it. When she massage my stomach form above my head, her breast was just 1inch from my face(quite big) I can even smell her perfume. Had full hard on now and lifted the towel a little. She notice the bludge m can feel she is staring at it. I pretend to sneeze n moved my head upwards n touched her breast with my face. Very soft and can feel that it's not the padded kind. My turn to apologize n of cos she also say never mind. Then proceed to the legs again with my bro still wide awake. This time will chatting with her I purposely shifted my towel to expose bro. She covered it back n I tried again a little while later. During which I was "telling" her it's my first time getting this kind of hard on during a massage. Could be due to her soft hands n the knocking on her breast earlier. She then tell me this was also the first time She is actually massaging for a guy! Her spa actually got male for male n girl for girl terapist. I tell her I lucky loh and pull the towel a third tine. This time round she did not cover back. I thinking got chance Liao. Continue to sweet-talk her n then suddenly ask her if her breast is real. She say of cos shyly n I say dun believe then quickly went for a squeeze before she realize it. She went ahh n did not push my hands away. TBC

[ttttaann]

Continue to play with her breast outside her cloths and told her confirm it's real wan. Then she say so enough already I quickly of cos NOT. I pull her hands to my bro n she started fondling it though reluctant at first. Then I managed to go under her cloths n had a good feel of her big breast. Shook man. Finally came n shoot a load of armies some getting on her face. Can see that she novice not used to doing it. After everything want to give her tips but she refused to take but asked me to take a package so can see her more. I choose a cheaper package dur to the good massage n her superb services. Since then went back 3 times n thighs just keep getting better. But still it's hj n roaming only. Thinking to try and ask her out to see if got chance to go further.

Will continue this FR if I get to that stage.

[tacobell]

With my experience on getting services at legal clean joints for past few years (other than my Cheonging at the seedy ones ;) ), I would say that you will very unlikely come accross any erotic or extra experience in a well known, publicly advertised clean joint !
Most of the well known Spa's have a very strict policy, and since they have to adhere to quality control from various regulatory bodies, any hint of any 'indecent' acts by any masseur is immediately acted upon by the Mgt since it's just too much of risk and bad publicity for them and just not worth it when comparing against their huge investment and tight revenue. Tipping the gals are strictly not allowed, u hv to wear disposable boxers, gals are usually 'covered' top to bottom etc etc.
Still masseurs are still individuals, human being Like us.. Some might just cross the line to earn some extra, oblivious to the Mgt ... Hence if some of the bro's have been lucky enough to encounter the 'impossible'; may I say that it's still an exception and most likely will need lot of 'experimentation' to get lucky :)

[MatrixOne]

From my experience, if you invest enough time and effort, even clean joint can spring some surprises. I have explored both clean spa and TCM clinic before. I still remember, i use to frequent this chinese TCM clinic to get some hard tuina for my troublesome backache. The lady boss who also happen to be the chinese physician for the shop is very friendly and she employed 2 PRC ladies to do massage inside her clinic. They provide shorts and inside the cubicle,they even got put up notice that it a must to put on shorts and underwear during tuina.

I used to frequent this joint almost every week and everytime, the tuina was all done in a very professional way. But during my 5th visit to the place, i was the last few customer. After the other customer has left the shop, her other colleague also make a move first also. That only left me and the lady massaging for me. Then to my surprise, after she asked me to turn infront to massage my stomach, i realised her massages stroke changed. Knowing this is a decent clinic, i console myself that i think too much liao. But how wrong was I. She start to push her hands from my chest area down to just above my pelvic area in a wave like manner. It like pushing blood down to my groin area and in no time, i mari kita. Think she see my erection but she still continue with that stroke like nothing happen.

Just when i thought she is only disturbing me, she suddenly ask me, 你还有那里觉的紧的？Upon hearing the question, i tell myself hou seh liao. But just when i was about to reply her, the door to the shop open and another customer step in. Trust me, that time, i really feel like rushing out to whack that fellow. The guy ask her still got how long to go, and she reply, 快了。Just when i thought i can slowly enjoy without disturbance, this happen. Duno to laugh and cry.

Anyway, i told her 下面。She automatically pull down my short and underwear and start giving me a sensual HJ and finish me off. After that, i quickly dress up and and went to the washroom to wash up abit. Then i suddenly remember, i make a newbie mistake in letting the small brain took over the big brain and forget to ask how much for the HJ before letting her do it.

Expecting the worst, i walk out and pretend to ask her how much. Den she told me, same price. I was like :eek:......inside my brain, i was telling myself, it's my lucky day. A good 60 min massage plus HJ only costs $40, go where to find. But of course would be alot better if that fellow has not stepped in. But can't complain much.

To date, this has to be one of my cheapest experience. So to those bro who are exploring this area, dun give up and keep trying.You never know what will happen.

I personally think that it alot more fun to explore clean joint and when you get something unexpected in return, it something no words can express :D

[Ma33a63]

Bro, this is a very good report. Nowaday i am looking for massage whereby we are require to wear those disposable underwear, then as the massage goes, and the teasing began. Our mind will keep thinking if there is special or not.
Nowaday, when they tell to strip everything off, it really kill the suspense.

[SEXCRAZY]

"legal flashing"....??!! haha... tat's a nice term...

btw, i'm into tat too...

:D

Same same.. Legal flashing!

Really kill the mood whenever they pop the golden question for me.. :( still finding a good clean massage by chio looking but no special .. Maybe massaging sensitive part and make me arouse but no special.. The feeling of "want but cannot get"?

The closest I got was in batam couple massage .. In the same room with wife but a really syt indo girl was my masseur and thru the massage my bro was standing coz my wifey was naked and the masseur touching near sensitive part all the while.

Any bro can recommend a good clean place massage by nice looking lady? Been trying many place but no luck.. Either face cannot make it or their main intention is to provide special :mad:

[poonani]

Any bro can recommend a good clean place massage by nice looking lady? Been trying many place but no luck.. Either face cannot make it or their main intention is to provide special :mad:

Jenny, Healing Touch, Thomson Road.

Presentable and good hard massage.

[bochapsing]

Same same.. Legal flashing!

The closest I got was in batam couple massage .. In the same room with wife but a really syt indo girl was my masseur and thru the massage my bro was standing coz my wifey was naked and the masseur touching near sensitive part all the while.


had a nice couple massage in batam...
it's a clean joint, not hanky panky at all... and we were asked to wear disposalable underwears..
during the massage when she needed to adjust the underwear to massage my butt, i offered to remove it, but she said no... :(
my bro was standing most of the time during the massage too...
only chance to "legally flash" is after we taken our shower and they were tidying up the room, i just walked out of the attached shower room naked without the towel they provided... :p

[bochapsing]

had another couple massage experience in another spa, also in batam...
everything is normal till, after we'd done our body wrap...
we're brought to seperate bathrooms to wash our body. wat happened next was quite a surprise, the lady actually stayed back to help me to wash myself.. :D she bathed me like a bady, washed every inch of my body, including my bro with her soft hands.. then she popped the golden qn, offerring hj..
i asked for bj, but she politely declined.. :(
as i not too keen in hj, and with my oc around, things might get complicated if she saw me giving tips or if she want a quickie on the spot :p... so i din take up her offer..
my bro ended up hard throughout the shower but without releasing.. :(

[SEXCRAZY]

Jenny, Healing Touch, Thomson Road.

Presentable and good hard massage.

Saw any chio one beside Jenny? :) will try out

[Valiant20]

Any bro can recommend a good clean place massage by nice looking lady? Been trying many place but no luck.. Either face cannot make it or their main intention is to provide special :mad:

Bro, Dragon Gate Spa massages are quite good, if you're in the area. 1hr too rushed. 1.5 hrs better.

Tried Coco & Yoyo so far. Both are presentable :)

[Ma33a63]

Ya. sometime is the massage skill that is important. Last time, when i go for massage, the girls will spend effort and time to tease our butt crack and also pretending to massage very close to your brother, and all this will make you high.
But nowaday, very sad, they don't touch those area anymore but instead pop you the question after you turn over and your brother still in sleep mode..lol..

[freezetheDB]

Ya. sometime is the massage skill that is important. Last time, when i go for massage, the girls will spend effort and time to tease our butt crack and also pretending to massage very close to your brother, and all this will make you high.
But nowaday, very sad, they don't touch those area anymore but instead pop you the question after you turn over and your brother still in sleep mode..lol..

yah bro
totally agree

sometimes agree to the GQ as mind already made up earlier that little bro wants to release.
at times release for the sake of releasing and not being genuinely baited for the happy ending

[mywayamway]

There is another spa www.jj-spa.com . This spa is not the ivy league type but at a more reasonable rate however, the massage is professional and good. value for money...