Paranoid: sbf male fb?

[westendgirl]

i cant stand it anymore & wld like to seek brothers/sisters advice here. i am a newbie here n recently get to know a guy here. he is nice and attentive. only drawback is he is paranoid of meetg other samsters.

he is a businessman & say he treasured his privacy very much and paranoid about being identified as a samster. wtf right? u know a girl from SBF and you are scare stiff of the rest of the community? i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

[Phuket]

i cant stand it anymore & wld like to seek brothers/sisters advice here. i am a newbie here n recently get to know a guy here. he is nice and attentive. only drawback is he is paranoid of meetg other samsters.

he is a businessman & say he treasured his privacy very much and paranoid about being identified as a samster. wtf right? u know a girl from SBF and you are scare stiff of the rest of the community? i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

Frankly speaking, what's wrong being a samster? We are here to share our "sexperience" and maybe seek fun.

[sean69]

i cant stand it anymore & wld like to seek brothers/sisters advice here. i am a newbie here n recently get to know a guy here. he is nice and attentive. only drawback is he is paranoid of meetg other samsters.

he is a businessman & say he treasured his privacy very much and paranoid about being identified as a samster. wtf right? u know a girl from SBF and you are scare stiff of the rest of the community? i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

so.. in a nutshell, he just want to meet you .... (and to bonk u) .. :D

[wtfuad]

Prob cos he is a businessman n might think that he might bump into someone he know within the business circle n become awkward? Did he say y?

[watssupp]

Westendgirl i dun mind meeting other samster with u....When can i date u out??? :D

[littlepok]

aren't u considered a samster as well? then why he meet u?

in other words, because u met other samster before, therefore he is afraid when he go out with u, other samster will identify u and hence refer him as another samster which he do not want to.

conclusion: very shameful to be seen with u? for example, there are bros who got together with masseur, ktv gals and even prostitutes (not referring u as one of these) and the bros accepted them for who they are, what they did IN THE PAST and lived happily (some of them...). if he likes u, he will have to accept for who u are and who u met or bonked with in the past. if not, this will forever be a prick in his heart. will u be truly happy? your own call

[westendgirl]

aren't u considered a samster as well? then why he meet u?

in other words, because u met other samster before, therefore he is afraid when he go out with u, other samster will identify u and hence refer him as another samster which he do not want to.

conclusion: very shameful to be seen with u? for example, there are bros who got together with masseur, ktv gals and even prostitutes (not referring u as one of these) and the bros accepted them for who they are, what they did IN THE PAST and lived happily (some of them...). if he likes u, he will have to accept for who u are and who u met or bonked with in the past. if not, this will forever be a prick in his heart. will u be truly happy? your own call

omg this is totally unfair and sexist. wtf! female samster is slut; male samster is he-man? bro littlepok, thanks for pointing this out.

[hickeybites]

Perhaps it would help if you explain what is it exactly that you "can't stand anymore" about his paranoia. Is it cos:

a) As your fb & due to his own paranoia, he's forbidding you to meet other samsters ever again; or

b) You want him to go with you to meet other samsters for gatherings & he refuses so; or

c) You suspect that he's actually a "lao-jiao" with a longer history - & his reluctance to meet others & thereby possibly blowing his cover - is making you nervy :eek:


Ok ok... option c is a bit far-fetched & I'm just kidding here :D

Paranoia is perhaps too strong a word to describe your fb's reluctuance to meet other samsters.
If he's like most people who know how to act blur when the phrase "sbf" comes up in conversations with friends/colleagues (see below somewhat similar thread), what more his wish to maintain anonymity & only meet people on his own terms?
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=302316

[westendgirl]

Perhaps it would help if you explain what is it exactly that you "can't stand anymore" about his paranoia. Is it cos:

a) As your fb & due to his own paranoia, he's forbidding you to meet other samsters ever again; or

b) You want him to go with you to meet other samsters for gatherings & he refuses so; or

c) You suspect that he's actually a "lao-jiao" with a longer history - & his reluctance to meet others & thereby possibly blowing his cover - is making you nervy :eek:


Ok ok... option c is a bit far-fetched :D
Paranoia is perhaps too strong a word to describe your fb's reluctuance to meet other samsters.
If he's like most people who know how to act blur when the phrase "sbf" comes up in conversations with friends/colleagues (see below somewhat similar thread), what more his wish to maintain anonymity & only meet people on his own terms?
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=302316

thanks bro. your option "c" is unnerving me, really! now i am curious... :rolleyes:

thanks for the link also. i had read this thread before & appreciate u for connecting the dots.

[littlepok]

omg this is totally unfair and sexist. wtf! female samster is slut; male samster is he-man? bro littlepok, thanks for pointing this out.

i like your he-man description. ya, master of the universe.

to me, female samster is just fine, good to balance the super skewed ratio here abit. everyone has needs, just whether they admit it or not. the most innocent looking honest man will still pcc in the bath, believe it or not haha.

[acidicavex]

I think coz he is a businessman that why he have his concern worry he is expose. Weird why in the 1st place he land himself here. Even if he seek FL,WL etc still will be identify lo.

To ts sis are u asking him to meet u alone or to meet up in a gathering??

[<<totally>>]

i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

From what i understand, corrected me if I'm wrong, am I getting an impression that once you and him maybe together, you will not be allowed to contact those friends known over here issit?

You are not very willing to give up those friends because of his fears.

By the way did you tell anyone of the friends made here you met another guy here and things are going well? If you did not say anything about your present, I think the worries are uncalled for.

Or is he jealous or worried that with you having to keep them as friend relationship, who knows what will happened. Or did you told him before that you and some had went out try some things, so a man's pride we are talking now. Not every guy is able to take it with grace, standing next to another guy who used to up your wife now.

If anyone asked how you met him (both agreed on an answer beforehand), just anything except here. Nobody will know except the two of you unless you tell a close friend, close friend tell another friend......

But if he really ask you to choose as a prove of love. It is for you to decide which one matter more to you. For affairs of the heart, outsiders cannot tell you want to do but to advised and pointed out areas in which you did not see. :cool:

Hope everything ends well!:D

[westendgirl]

I think coz he is a businessman that why he have his concern worry he is expose. Weird why in the 1st place he land himself here. Even if he seek FL,WL etc still will be identify lo.

To ts sis are u asking him to meet u alone or to meet up in a gathering??

just to clarify. he is not willing to meet in group or go for gathering. in a way, he is limiting my social circle as i have fren who r non-closet SBF members. in fact, i was introduced by a samster to this website. :D

[bigangry]

can understand why he behave like this.
so far i only met up with 1 female samster although, personally i dont like to meet up with samsters too, females and males alike.
you never know who you will meet over the internet.

[veri_lonely]

[QUOTE=westendgirl;7652191]just to clarify. he is not willing to meet in group or go for gathering. in a way, he is limiting my social circle as i have fren who r non-closet SBF members. in fact, i was introduced by a samster to this website. :D[/QUOT

So i think u should know wad goin on already once u 2 meet wad next .. decision is urs make a choice .. Cheer

[westendgirl]

can understand why he behave like this.
so far i only met up with 1 female samster although, personally i dont like to meet up with samsters too, females and males alike.
you never know who you will meet over the internet.

he gave this excuse before but i told him they ARE my friends, for goodness sake! I can share his worry if he did not hook me up and stayed an island. but after we started and try to cut me off... *sigh* :mad:

[<<totally>>]

TS, you and him already met up right or not yet. But I felt you 2 met up already.

so.. in a nutshell, he just want to meet you .... (and to bonk u) .. :D

I think coz he is a businessman that why he have his concern worry he is expose. Weird why in the 1st place he land himself here. Even if he seek FL,WL etc still will be identify lo.

To ts sis are u asking him to meet u alone or to meet up in a gathering??

[QUOTE=westendgirl;7652191]just to clarify. he is not willing to meet in group or go for gathering. in a way, he is limiting my social circle as i have fren who r non-closet SBF members. in fact, i was introduced by a samster to this website. :D[/QUOT

So i think u should know wad goin on already once u 2 meet wad next .. decision is urs make a choice .. Cheer


But when I saw the above bros postings, it is as if you and the businessman had yet to meet. Maybe can clear things up a bit?

[westendgirl]

Bro totally, we had met up and upz, if u get my drift. i have no issue if he just want to chat and not meet up.

[<<totally>>]

he gave this excuse before but i told him they ARE my friends, for goodness sake! I can share his worry if he did not hook me up and stayed an island. but after we started and try to cut me off... *sigh* :mad:

So met up already and ..... understand liao.

[onlyhuman]

i cant stand it anymore & wld like to seek brothers/sisters advice here. i am a newbie here n recently get to know a guy here. he is nice and attentive. only drawback is he is paranoid of meetg other samsters.

he is a businessman & say he treasured his privacy very much and paranoid about being identified as a samster. wtf right? u know a girl from SBF and you are scare stiff of the rest of the community? i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

he just want you "exclusively" his..:D

[Deesiaokia]

aren't u considered a samster as well? then why he meet u?

in other words, because u met other samster before, therefore he is afraid when he go out with u, other samster will identify u and hence refer him as another samster which he do not want to.

conclusion: very shameful to be seen with u? for example, there are bros who got together with masseur, ktv gals and even prostitutes (not referring u as one of these) and the bros accepted them for who they are, what they did IN THE PAST and lived happily (some of them...). if he likes u, he will have to accept for who u are and who u met or bonked with in the past. if not, this will forever be a prick in his heart. will u be truly happy? your own call
Agree with u bro.. To love a person is to accept whatever his/her past histories, strength n weakness.

TS sister.. IMHO, a bussinness man came here to look for a female samster to be his gf/fb ,then don't like this don't like that, What kind of man he is?? Maybe u would like to ask him go find a maid instead.. Beri obidient wan..:D

[westendgirl]

he just want you "exclusively" his..:D

i think he is naive if looking for exclusivity here and trying to protect his territory. he is reading this and i hope he see his folly if that's his intention.


p/s
bro onlyhuman,
can i get into your little list below? :D

[<<totally>>]

Thks for clearing up sis. So everything is just up and running, now he intro add-on(cut off sbf links) and ur system unable to accept.

U tell him to stop contacting and surrender other sis/ fl /fb he known thru the yrs here as an exchange loh.:D

[onlyhuman]

[QUOTE=

p/s
bro onlyhuman,
can i get into your little list below? :D[/QUOTE]

Sure! my list is not exclusively for the few selected...its for everyone :D

[aceaceguy]

IMO, he want to be ur ONLY FB :rolleyes:

ask him when he wanna propose to u ;)

[westendgirl]

thanks all samsters for the advice and pm. appreciate all from bottom of my heart. going for lunch now...

[aceaceguy]

p/s
bro onlyhuman,
can i get into your little list below? :D

i also want to be in the list can? :D

[veri_lonely]

sis just follow ur heart .. can advise u but decision is still ur ..

[<<totally>>]

IMO, he want to be ur ONLY FB :rolleyes:

ask him when he wanna propose to u ;)

If talking about marriage then, the cut-off do seems a little understanding.

[onlyhuman]

i also want to be in the list can? :D

Sure! but i only can up one at a time:D

[MoLiHuaCha]

Best to make things clear, if not, later, confirm daiji liao liao wan

[itiswhatitis]

i can oni say: tat bizman FB of yrs s very selfish. unless he s talking to u abt marriage or committment, otherwise i think u (westendgirl) ve yr own right of yr life.

u r fully authorised to go anywhere u wan, meet whoever u wan. only when u feel comfortable of his comments, then won't matter shd u heed his words SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES only. other than tat, both of u r jus sexual partners w no strings attached.

dun worry abt anyone esp HIM! u got e right to enjoy yourselves. remember, dun let him spoil yr day.

haiz........ dun get paranoid la, spoil yr day only. dun forget our lives r short. jus be happy!;)

[BoinKING]

if the sex was a killer then okay la..
if not then so many fish in the sea.. let one lose to have many..

worthy trade off lol

[ahchooxx]

i think he just don't want himself sexposed as a businessman. i think that's what those high ranking people scared of being exposed. but if he is really rich, he should go get a mistress to be his only fb right:confused:

[littlepok]

maybe TS should state her requirement, alot will be queueing up to know her, me inclusive haha. use some filtering requirement so u do not get spammed (got a hunch your PM is bursting liao with messages like)

F the bizman. i let u meet anyone u want, including my little bro

[xxFTOxx]

i cant stand it anymore & wld like to seek brothers/sisters advice here. i am a newbie here n recently get to know a guy here. he is nice and attentive. only drawback is he is paranoid of meetg other samsters.

he is a businessman & say he treasured his privacy very much and paranoid about being identified as a samster. wtf right? u know a girl from SBF and you are scare stiff of the rest of the community? i told him i knew a few samsters here before him and i cant be cutting them off cos of his paranoia, rite? well, with his reluctance permission, i put this in writing in the forum and see the response.

Jealousy perhaps? Maybe he likes u? Well u gotta set the rules straight first. But I may be wrong :rolleyes:

[itiswhatitis]

maybe TS should state her requirement, alot will be queueing up to know her, me inclusive haha. use some filtering requirement so u do not get spammed (got a hunch your PM is bursting liao with messages like)

F the bizman. i let u meet anyone u want, including my little bro

ha ha, i didnt do tat lor...............

muhahahahaa.............. didnt tot of it aso.......:rolleyes:

but i think by tomolo aftern, tis ll be a 10pages thread.........

[HungHubby]

I read 2 pages and no "relationship/martial status" stated?

1. If ya both are single and available, whats the big hooha about bumping into other people or letting them know how/where u meet each other? SBF (though sexually) is just another online networking platform. If ya aint comfortable, then say HWZ?

2. Even if ya both fbs/fwbs, u both outta give each other alittle freedom and space. Dun really see why ya cant have friends of the opposite gender as long as nothing sexually is being involved.

2. If he's already taken, he's obviously afraid to let his other half find out? Then again, among his own group of friends/associates etc, most businessmen that I know of are pretty open about having another mistress/fwb/fb and not be afraid to be seen with them, its like having the luxury of an extra "toy" and a sign that they are already "up there".

[<<totally>>]

This thread now a bit 1-side. Maybe bizman go get a clone , find a friend to help you and clear the air before you lose that someone special if she really is to you.

But I will not use a clone and a friend to say on behalf. A nick is nothing as to compared with a person that really mean something. Be a man and if you did say things wrongly, just apologies.

I'm neutral but want to see things coming from 2 sides to be fair for both parties.:)

[westendgirl]

IMO, he want to be ur ONLY FB :rolleyes:

ask him when he wanna propose to u ;)

FB dont end up as hub and wife la... :D

[westendgirl]

if the sex was a killer then okay la..
if not then so many fish in the sea.. let one lose to have many..

worthy trade off lol

i am learning bro boinking. will let u know when i can kill with my sex skill!! :D

currently it seems like a one tree forest to me lor...

[BoinKING]

then stick to one how to level up right?
haha must have a few to improve skill ma..

Everyone got their trade mark move.. which makes it fun.. hence FBs..

[SexyStan]

aren't u considered a samster as well? then why he meet u?

in other words, because u met other samster before, therefore he is afraid when he go out with u, other samster will identify u and hence refer him as another samster which he do not want to.

conclusion: very shameful to be seen with u? for example, there are bros who got together with masseur, ktv gals and even prostitutes (not referring u as one of these) and the bros accepted them for who they are, what they did IN THE PAST and lived happily (some of them...). if he likes u, he will have to accept for who u are and who u met or bonked with in the past. if not, this will forever be a prick in his heart. will u be truly happy? your own call

omg this is totally unfair and sexist. wtf! female samster is slut; male samster is he-man? bro littlepok, thanks for pointing this out.

Chill gal... as someone neutral, I believe u've misunderstood Bro Littlepok's intended message. He's criticizing ur Man, not u. Hope that clarifies. As for ur Man's fears, becoz of some lack of info we have here from u (u may also b lacking some info on ur part as well for that matter, we really don't knw...), there can b multiple perspectives & his paranoia or indignance may be due to one or a few of the below listed reasons: -

(i) In Biz, Speak Biz (在商言商)

U've mentioned he is a bizman. In biz, reputation does matter. He cld b fearing tt a Samster outing wld unnecessarily blow his identity, &/or even cause him to bump into fellow Samsters w/ he has biz dealings w/. It may seem a small matter to u, or us even; But it may generate unnecessary awkwardness in future when he's talking biz in a professional capacity, jeopardize biz r/s, or even generate unnecessary rumors about him in his inner circle.

(ii) His marital status or other circumstances

Particularly for bizmen &/or some1 w/ reasonable public exposure, & in furtherance of e above (i), e anonymity that e virtual world offers to all of us protects them slightly more. Using marriage as an example, he might have fears that he loses his bargaining power becoz he's identity might be blown to a samster who is also a biz associate, simply becoz now e same associate, having known who he is, & perhaps what he does becoz of FRs or stories he's published, blackmails him. It may seem a remote fear, but remote as it is, it can happen bcoz e world of biz is a cut throat one. I do not knw e size of e biz he has, or e industry he's in, but I believe tt fear wld b there, e difference being only in e propensity he feels it.

(iii) R/s between e 2 of u

U mentioned him as a FB. Perhaps he does not see u in tt light. It cld b his possessiveness, not wanting to share u w/ fellow samsters, regardless of his seniority in this forum, or he knws what goes on in these forums & he cannot bear e thought of that happening to u &/or him. Perhaps, he hates how some shallow guys (most in fact but certainly not all), is likely to see u in a light whereby u "can b upped" (blunt, but some cruel truths, no harm intended) if people knew he had his chance w/ u. Perhaps, such a thought is simply too much for him to bear; and/or

(iv) Simply doesn't care

Not that he doesn't care about u. But he simply doesn't care about a Samster meeting. Some of us keep to ourselves pretty much (me included and I haven't met that many samsters before really in the past). Particularly for males, especially those w/ a profile in biz, we tend to be very objective-driven. A mere outing like food and drinks, could be mistakebly perceived as a waste of time w/o much specific outcomes, by some men.

Just some thoughts I have. I hope my perspective helps, but I do understand its not meant to be exhaustive towards other possibilities. If u r truly feeling curious & perturbed, I believe u shld speak to him. After all, if u guys are intimate, what's there that cannot b spoken aboveboard? U've credited him for being attentive, I'm sure he'd b more than willing to offer u answers like how a gentleman wld instead of have u (or us) speculate.

[aceaceguy]

then stick to one how to level up right?
haha must have a few to improve skill ma..

Everyone got their trade mark move.. which makes it fun.. hence FBs..

Haha, good one bro.

Is ur trade mark 'bishan'?;)

[westendgirl]

maybe TS should state her requirement, alot will be queueing up to know her, me inclusive haha. use some filtering requirement so u do not get spammed (got a hunch your PM is bursting liao with messages like)

F the bizman. i let u meet anyone u want, including my little bro

littlepok hahaha some pm la. not considered a deluge of spam. still like to maintain the r/s. he is nice and considerate.

ha ha, i didnt do tat lor...............

muhahahahaa.............. didnt tot of it aso.......:rolleyes:

but i think by tomolo aftern, tis ll be a 10pages thread.........

that wont happen la. this thread probably had run its course with all the points raised here. i am really grateful for all the postings and pms.

I read 2 pages and no "relationship/martial status" stated?

1. If ya both are single and available, whats the big hooha about bumping into other people or letting them know how/where u meet each other? SBF (though sexually) is just another online networking platform. If ya aint comfortable, then say HWZ?

2. Even if ya both fbs/fwbs, u both outta give each other alittle freedom and space. Dun really see why ya cant have friends of the opposite gender as long as nothing sexually is being involved.

2. If he's already taken, he's obviously afraid to let his other half find out? Then again, among his own group of friends/associates etc, most businessmen that I know of are pretty open about having another mistress/fwb/fb and not be afraid to be seen with them, its like having the luxury of an extra "toy" and a sign that they are already "up there".

just say our r/s is complicated. whatever it is, it will not lead to marriage. it is just a temporary arrangement that both of us are comfortable with. only this little issue...

This thread now a bit 1-side. Maybe bizman go get a clone , find a friend to help you and clear the air before you lose that someone special if she really is to you.

But I will not use a clone and a friend to say on behalf. A nick is nothing as to compared with a person that really mean something. Be a man and if you did say things wrongly, just apologies.

I'm neutral but want to see things coming from 2 sides to be fair for both parties.:)

bro, i asked him not to. i dont want to polarise the forum with my little problem. he can read and talk to me. anyway, raising firework here is the last thing he has on his mind... :D

[I.m.Jim]

Bro totally, we had met up and upz, if u get my drift. i have no issue if he just want to chat and not meet up.

TS, please note the below and it only applies to FB relationships.

In SBF, majority of the guys are married or attached. Many fear being recognized and exposure.

He is insecure about you meeting more samsters. FBs are hard to find, and he is afraid you will find someone more to your own liking and dump him.

Third, which was mentioned and I agree that theres a possibility. He might be a lao jiao under false pretense.

Did you do RAW with him, if so once a man tasted the golden fruit. He wants it all for himself, he will become very obsessed.

FBs should not control each other unless the relationship is ready for another step forward. If he don't want to meet others fine, but he has no right to forbid you to. UNLESS you are his rightful GF!

Correct his mindset of what FBs are all about please.

[BLseven]

actually to me as a fair minded libra, relationship with female other then your official wife is simple : only ask and demand in equal amount what you are prepared and able to give to others!

eg: if you can only meet certain amount of time in a week, then cannot ask that others days your girl cannot go out on her own with her friends. if you are not financially able to totally provide for the girl's monthly luxury expenses, then you have no right to even stop her from earning thru whatever means possible for her like ktv or fl.
and if i can't promise to marry the girl, i must be ready for the day when she will leave when she found somebody who's good to her and can marry her.

that's how i had conducted my fb/lover affairs for the past 10years with all happy endings, lucky me :)

in relation to you case sis, it's his right not to want to join in gatherings of yours with others but its also your right to want to have outings with them. every relationship have ironing to be done for a deeper understanding one la, even in fb and lovers and whatever, unless its very commercial base like sugar daddy arrangement.

wish you have happiness with whomever u meet and chose :)

[westendgirl]

Chill gal... as someone neutral, I believe u've misunderstood Bro Littlepok's intended message. He's criticizing ur Man, not u. Hope that clarifies. As for ur Man's fears, becoz of some lack of info we have here from u (u may also b lacking some info on ur part as well for that matter, we really don't knw...), there can b multiple perspectives & his paranoia or indignance may be due to one or a few of the below listed reasons: -

(i) In Biz, Speak Biz (在商言商)

U've mentioned he is a bizman. In biz, reputation does matter. He cld b fearing tt a Samster outing wld unnecessarily blow his identity, &/or even cause him to bump into fellow Samsters w/ he has biz dealings w/. It may seem a small matter to u, or us even; But it may generate unnecessary awkwardness in future when he's talking biz in a professional capacity, jeopardize biz r/s, or even generate unnecessary rumors about him in his inner circle.

(ii) His marital status or other circumstances

Particularly for bizmen &/or some1 w/ reasonable public exposure, & in furtherance of e above (i), e anonymity that e virtual world offers to all of us protects them slightly more. Using marriage as an example, he might have fears that he loses his bargaining power becoz he's identity might be blown to a samster who is also a biz associate, simply becoz now e same associate, having known who he is, & perhaps what he does becoz of FRs or stories he's published, blackmails him. It may seem a remote fear, but remote as it is, it can happen bcoz e world of biz is a cut throat one. I do not knw e size of e biz he has, or e industry he's in, but I believe tt fear wld b there, e difference being only in e propensity he feels it.

(iii) R/s between e 2 of u

U mentioned him as a FB. Perhaps he does not see u in tt light. It cld b his possessiveness, not wanting to share u w/ fellow samsters, regardless of his seniority in this forum, or he knws what goes on in these forums & he cannot bear e thought of that happening to u &/or him. Perhaps, he hates how some shallow guys (most in fact but certainly not all), is likely to see u in a light whereby u "can b upped" (blunt, but some cruel truths, no harm intended) if people knew he had his chance w/ u. Perhaps, such a thought is simply too much for him to bear; and/or

(iv) Simply doesn't care

Not that he doesn't care about u. But he simply doesn't care about a Samster meeting. Some of us keep to ourselves pretty much (me included and I haven't met that many samsters before really in the past). Particularly for males, especially those w/ a profile in biz, we tend to be very objective-driven. A mere outing like food and drinks, could be mistakebly perceived as a waste of time w/o much specific outcomes, by some men.

Just some thoughts I have. I hope my perspective helps, but I do understand its not meant to be exhaustive towards other possibilities. If u r truly feeling curious & perturbed, I believe u shld speak to him. After all, if u guys are intimate, what's there that cannot b spoken aboveboard? U've credited him for being attentive, I'm sure he'd b more than willing to offer u answers like how a gentleman wld instead of have u (or us) speculate.

bro ur post is so inclusive and profound, it clicks with me. so much so, i actually shed a tear for the predicament that he maybe in but would not let me in lest it hurts me. Some of your points were mentioned before by him.

u r right, he is very objective and cool. sometimes cold even. He wont go out for a casual drink, even his own kakis as frequently as they wanted him to. His limited social circle is not limited to samsters alone.

He also warned of the stigma of association with SBF and i think he wanted to protect me. He may have a history. Probably need to clarify with him further on this point.

He is a nice guy but sometimes just too bloody calm. I am actually pleasantly surprise when he agreed to allow me to put up this thread and throw our "problem" into the open. Hopefully after this, some spark will fly...

Bro Stan, u r wise and appreciate your efforts to share.

[BoinKING]

Haha, good one bro.

Is ur trade mark 'bishan'?;)

Haha.. "they" call me magic fingers..:D
And also natural sleeping pills.. after one therapy session they will have a good night sleep.

[westendgirl]

then stick to one how to level up right?
haha must have a few to improve skill ma..

Everyone got their trade mark move.. which makes it fun.. hence FBs..

Haha, good one bro.

Is ur trade mark 'bishan'?;)

you guys are funny la. bro ace2guy, what is a "bishan"?

[mi.chi.eru]

Another scenario:

He could be having multiple nicks and afraid that he would be discovered.

Let's just say that there are the good the bad and the ugly when you meet up with people.

[westendgirl]

TS, please note the below and it only applies to FB relationships.

In SBF, majority of the guys are married or attached. Many fear being recognized and exposure.

He is insecure about you meeting more samsters. FBs are hard to find, and he is afraid you will find someone more to your own liking and dump him.

Third, which was mentioned and I agree that theres a possibility. He might be a lao jiao under false pretense.

Did you do RAW with him, if so once a man tasted the golden fruit. He wants it all for himself, he will become very obsessed.

FBs should not control each other unless the relationship is ready for another step forward. If he don't want to meet others fine, but he has no right to forbid you to. UNLESS you are his rightful GF!

Correct his mindset of what FBs are all about please.

no raw la. we r grown up and responsible ppl. :D

actually to me as a fair minded libra, relationship with female other then your official wife is simple : only ask and demand in equal amount what you are prepared and able to give to others!

eg: if you can only meet certain amount of time in a week, then cannot ask that others days your girl cannot go out on her own with her friends. if you are not financially able to totally provide for the girl's monthly luxury expenses, then you have no right to even stop her from earning thru whatever means possible for her like ktv or fl.
and if i can't promise to marry the girl, i must be ready for the day when she will leave when she found somebody who's good to her and can marry her.

that's how i had conducted my fb/lover affairs for the past 10years with all happy endings, lucky me :)

in relation to you case sis, it's his right not to want to join in gatherings of yours with others but its also your right to want to have outings with them. every relationship have ironing to be done for a deeper understanding one la, even in fb and lovers and whatever, unless its very commercial base like sugar daddy arrangement.

wish you have happiness with whomever u meet and chose :)

thanks for the sincere wishes. u r rite, guess gathering and clubbing is not everyone's cup of tea. will remember that.

Another scenario:

He could be having multiple nicks and afraid that he would be discovered.

Let's just say that there are the good the bad and the ugly when you meet up with people.

this point is new. but dont think he will reveal his other identities or nicks. i can respect that, no issue...

[mi.chi.eru]

Just to side track a little.. This chap who used to go out with a group of us ended up borrowing money from each of us. Long story short, we found out after a while he had multiple nicks and was doing the same to others.

In all fairness he could be scared shit of being discovered, meeting familiar people or there could be 101 theories, conspiracies or what have you.

As long as everyone is getting what they want, why bother?

[IwasApo]

Actually there is nothing wrong not to meet up with people.
You r here to hunt, get a fb / fl /whatever, y complicate matters with non essential meetups that benefit nobody.

Of cos it gets a little sticky when he restricts your movement.

Some people are just plain rubbish and you dun want your girl to be associated with rubbish.

Of cos this presents a problem. The girl can accept it or the girl can tell you to fuck off. That is entirely the girl's choice. There will be girls who disassociate themself successful, and you scold the guy when he talk about sbf and there are girls who don't. It all depend on the guy and you. I'll keep the one that listens to me. :rolleyes:

One way to go around it, is to introduce a few of these people into his circle of trust, and this are the allowed people to mingle with. He doesn't need to know them well or be buddy with them, just so the communication and space still exists.

[acidicavex]

i think he is naive if looking for exclusivity here and trying to protect his territory. he is reading this and i hope he see his folly if that's his intention.


p/s
bro onlyhuman,
can i get into your little list below? :D

Well sis I won't say he is naive :p someone I know did try to change the whole meaning of FB by try to be exclusive.

There are bound to have ppl who try to redefine the term of FB.

To me is you want to be exclusive mean

For both female n male mean cut screwing or dating others strictly reserve your time for that exclusive someone.


But if you still want to lead a normal life and dates and see others than best don't go commit yourself to be exclusive it will very well end up in some shitty situation.

[DYBJ]

I was invited to this thread via PM by a good bro of mine to share my tots n view on this.
WEG short for westendgirl k :p, there are no restrictions on u making friends in this forum going for meetups orgies drinking sessions bbqs getting pissed drunked getting willing groped etc etc etc but but but..............this is only applicable if u 2 r purely on a pure FB relationship!

If situation is tat he is not just plainly a FB, then the boundaries hv changed.
Ur responsibilities twds him hv also changed.

Meeting people here from this forum is not a bad thing, wats wrong wif increasing ur social network ya?
But, if one is in this forum long enuff, he/she will know, some r just wolves in sheeps clothing.
In this lite, unless u r not wise or street smart enuff, n give everyone a benefit of a doubt until u r bitten by them, be it in reality, or spammed in this forum which happens ever so often, wif lies converted to truth, then it is a warranted case to worry.

One who values his privacy does not equate to him being anti-social, it's just that they do not want to pollute their space with unnecessary n unwanted pollution.
Some people r very picky to making friends some are anything goes, where the 1st one has less friends but also, less probs n the latter has more friends but has more headaches n more chances of being involved in gossips n slander.

So, being a businessman, yes, i can see where he is coming from, of cos, he is worried about his privacy, but if u r in his inner circle, then of cos he is worried abt urs too for losing urs will inadvertently lead to him losing his.
See the connection now?

So, my conclusion is, as per my thread:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=305967
Is to know where the boundaries lie n where the lines of responsibility lie n whether his intentions r warranted or whether ur thread is warranted in the 1st place.

[pussyslime8]

There's no innocent girls here , you know :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[aceaceguy]

Haha.. "they" call me magic fingers..:D
And also natural sleeping pills.. after one therapy session they will have a good night sleep.

Is it?

If I were u, I would prefer to be called 'wonder dick'!:p

[aceaceguy]

you guys are funny la. bro ace2guy, what is a "bishan"?

The bishan taxi stand he conquered in the fucking in public thread.

Maybe sis can try bishan bus stop next?:D

[BoinKING]

Is it?

If I were u, I would prefer to be called 'wonder dick'!:p

He he fingers more versatile la..
Can use in places where the 2ic cannot come out and still gets the job done...

Of course knowing how to combo and stack the different orgasm together can be a killer combo

[unsung80]

just to clarify. he is not willing to meet in group or go for gathering. in a way, he is limiting my social circle as i have fren who r non-closet SBF members. in fact, i was introduced by a samster to this website. :D

Whether he is your FB or potential BF. You have rights to have your own circle of friends, if he's not uncomfortable then invite him. Invite him for a threesome he might be more interesting perhaps?

What's wrong with socializing? Will he get super paranoid after reading this post and zap us who comment? I also met many nice bros and ladies(for mutual fucking/FB). All are cool!

End of the day, is just pussy and dick waiting to get fuck and fuck.

[Rickey]

Ok ok... option c is a bit far-fetched & I'm just kidding here
Paranoia is perhaps too strong a word to describe your fb's reluctuance to meet other samsters.
If he's like most people who know how to act blur when the phrase "sbf" comes up in conversations with friends/colleagues (see below somewhat similar thread), what more his wish to maintain anonymity & only meet people on his own terms?
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=302316

thanks bro. your option "c" is unnerving me, really! now i am curious... :rolleyes:

thanks for the link also. i had read this thread before & appreciate u for connecting the dots.
Dear gal, do take note, sis hickeybites is a female n lady samstress jus like u...she is definitely not a bro..;)

For samsters/samstress intending to meet-up, pls refer to the Tips n advice given by BOSS in his signature regarding the DOs n DON'Ts when meeting up wif one another..but imho tink it is not possible, to not give away either ur name or nick when actually seeing each other in person. It wld be best if we can keep our identity secret as recommended by BOSS at 1st meeting, but believe tis is difficult to do.. we will either hv to reveal our names or nicks at the very least. So do take care when meeting-up guys n yes, Happy Meeting ! :)

[Reoxy]

I also met many nice bros and ladies(for mutual fucking/FB). All are cool!

End of the day, is just pussy and dick waiting to get fuck and fuck.

Lucky lucky.

I met many nice bros and ladies as well.

But no mutual fucking for me.:(

Can some nice soul post a good FR for me so that I have more customers?:D

[blade]

guess your man want you for himself only. But exclusivity should be sorted out at the start~ try talking some sense into him.
Anyway nothing wrong being shy/not wanting to meet others. Maybe he is too well known that if exposed, many consequence follows.

[deludedgal]

he gave this excuse before but i told him they ARE my friends, for goodness sake! I can share his worry if he did not hook me up and stayed an island. but after we started and try to cut me off... *sigh* :mad:

cos most of the people who came here are seeking something unless they prefer not meeting and by meeting others u r exposing yr online hidden identity to others in the real world and not everyone can accept that person's way of which is still socially non acceptable regardless guy or ger

i think he wants to protect u and himself.

[westendgirl]

The bishan taxi stand he conquered in the fucking in public thread.

Maybe sis can try bishan bus stop next?:D

I read that one post but think the area near toast box at J8 will be full of samsters looking för a secret public bonk by now :D

He he fingers more versatile la..
Can use in places where the 2ic cannot come out and still gets the job done...

Of course knowing how to combo and stack the different orgasm together can be a killer combo

How true. It is good to have a wider repertoire than just plain Dickie song to put your lady to sleep.

Haha.. "they" call me magic fingers..:D
And also natural sleeping pills.. after one therapy session they will have a good night sleep.

Really? Can cut small nail for me to boil soup since your finger can combat insomnia? Hahaha...

Ace2guy & BK, thanks for providing the humour to this thread of mind. In my sincere opinion both of you can start a thread sharing your skill. I will be the first one to support. Appreciate!

[GorDJilla]

Sis, jus do wat u want to do.. He ain't ur bf or hubby. Wat rights does he have to stop u frm meeting ur frens? Furthermore, will he do the same if u were to make the same request? Dun b silly, u are grown up & hav ur own life to lead. Gd luck! :D

[aceaceguy]

Ace2guy & BK, thanks for providing the humour to this thread of mind. In my sincere opinion both of you can start a thread sharing your skill. I will be the first one to support. Appreciate!

Sis, thanks for your suggestion. I'm not good enough lah, I'm just an apprentice only.

Maybe bro boinking can do that;)

[YagamiX]

lol..well nothing to be ashamed of being a samster and a few guys are rather possessive and want the girl for themselves..but I believe there's nothing wrong meeting and knowing more people as long as you doesn't flirt and go bonking around when you are in a relationship with him unless you guys are adventurous enough :D

But yea..shouldn't cut your friends away..I think it's fun knowing more people ^^

And I aren't lucky enough to meet any girls in here yet =(

[westendgirl]

Actually there is nothing wrong not to meet up with people.
You r here to hunt, get a fb / fl /whatever, y complicate matters with non essential meetups that benefit nobody.

Of cos it gets a little sticky when he restricts your movement.

Some people are just plain rubbish and you dun want your girl to be associated with rubbish.

Of cos this presents a problem. The girl can accept it or the girl can tell you to fuck off. That is entirely the girl's choice. There will be girls who disassociate themself successful, and you scold the guy when he talk about sbf and there are girls who don't. It all depend on the guy and you. I'll keep the one that listens to me.

One way to go around it, is to introduce a few of these people into his circle of trust, and this are the allowed people to mingle with. He doesn't need to know them well or be buddy with them, just so the communication and space still exists.

Like your ideas of induction of a few samsters into his circle of trust. He didnt say no circle, just not too many.

Well sis I won't say he is naive :p someone I know did try to change the whole meaning of FB by try to be exclusive.

There are bound to have ppl who try to redefine the term of FB.

To me is you want to be exclusive mean

For both female n male mean cut screwing or dating others strictly reserve your time for that exclusive someone.


But if you still want to lead a normal life and dates and see others than best don't go commit yourself to be exclusive it will very well end up in some shitty situation.

FB is still an evolving term and it connotes different meaning to different people. i am still living and learning the meaning of FB...

I was invited to this thread via PM by a good bro of mine to share my tots n view on this.
WEG short for westendgirl k :p, there are no restrictions on u making friends in this forum going for meetups orgies drinking sessions bbqs getting pissed drunked getting willing groped etc etc etc but but but..............this is only applicable if u 2 r purely on a pure FB relationship!

If situation is tat he is not just plainly a FB, then the boundaries hv changed.
Ur responsibilities twds him hv also changed.

Meeting people here from this forum is not a bad thing, wats wrong wif increasing ur social network ya?
But, if one is in this forum long enuff, he/she will know, some r just wolves in sheeps clothing.
In this lite, unless u r not wise or street smart enuff, n give everyone a benefit of a doubt until u r bitten by them, be it in reality, or spammed in this forum which happens ever so often, wif lies converted to truth, then it is a warranted case to worry.

One who values his privacy does not equate to him being anti-social, it's just that they do not want to pollute their space with unnecessary n unwanted pollution.
Some people r very picky to making friends some are anything goes, where the 1st one has less friends but also, less probs n the latter has more friends but has more headaches n more chances of being involved in gossips n slander.

So, being a businessman, yes, i can see where he is coming from, of cos, he is worried about his privacy, but if u r in his inner circle, then of cos he is worried abt urs too for losing urs will inadvertently lead to him losing his.
See the connection now?

So, my conclusion is, as per my thread:
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=305967
Is to know where the boundaries lie n where the lines of responsibility lie n whether his intentions r warranted or whether ur thread is warranted in the 1st place.

very wise words. and thanks to that fren of yours for bring your here. pm me his nick so i can thank him personally. :D

reading your post, i started to see the light at the end of the tunnel. maybe i got the FB r/s wrong. bf and hub go ard in social circle, SBF or not. FB is always a shadowy figure satisfying a latent need. maybe i yearn his company and assuming meeting fellow samsters TOGETHER is par for course. Bro DYBJ, your post has stated very clearly the boundary of a FB r/s, i need to do some reflection myself :confused:

GENERAL NOTES
So far fb has kept his silence, as he normally do unless he want to meet.

[westendgirl]

Whether he is your FB or potential BF. You have rights to have your own circle of friends, if he's not uncomfortable then invite him. Invite him for a threesome he might be more interesting perhaps?

What's wrong with socializing? Will he get super paranoid after reading this post and zap us who comment? I also met many nice bros and ladies(for mutual fucking/FB). All are cool!

End of the day, is just pussy and dick waiting to get fuck and fuck.

bro u r funny. mutual fucking? oxymoron since u cant fuck alone right?! he has the power but wont zap or up cos i think he is beyond that. he speaks of SBF in a past tense.

Dear gal, do take note, sis hickeybites is a female n lady samstress jus like u...she is definitely not a bro..;)

For samsters/samstress intending to meet-up, pls refer to the Tips n advice given by BOSS in his signature regarding the DOs n DON'Ts when meeting up wif one another..but imho tink it is not possible, to not give away either ur name or nick when actually seeing each other in person. It wld be best if we can keep our identity secret as recommended by BOSS at 1st meeting, but believe tis is difficult to do.. we will either hv to reveal our names or nicks at the very least. So do take care when meeting-up guys n yes, Happy Meeting ! :)

1000 apology to sister hickeybites. the three reasons you put up are very logical and can only come from one with depth and insight.

bro Rickey thanks for your support. BOSS standard is very high. 1st meeting maybe ok to insist on anonymity but difficult for subsequent contact.

[Innoncent$]

It seem like subject and content discussion is a bit off track....

FB status is generally known as non-disclosure relationship and mutual agreement with both parties only--a "game" that is played with both parties, of course with un-spell "rules".

For examples: some people like and accept to have orgy (maybe in any forms) but some people only like to 1-to-1 activities. Someone may like to watch but not to get involved. Someone may like to "show-off"...

Conclusion is why want to force someone into something that he or she who unwilling to do? A single word in whatever "rules" of the game is RESPECT. ;) Ended with everyone happy.... Why not?

[CBxian]

bro u r funny. mutual fucking?

Ger, you should change your siggy. "a FB is what is left of a lover, after the love had been extracted" since you don't understand it well.


It should say. "a FB is what is left of a FLING, after the committments and the "Can I fcuk you" are fling out of it.

[DYBJ]

very wise words. and thanks to that fren of yours for bring your here. pm me his nick so i can thank him personally. :D
No need, u already thanked him in the open already :D

reading your post, i started to see the light at the end of the tunnel. maybe i got the FB r/s wrong. bf and hub go ard in social circle, SBF or not. FB is always a shadowy figure satisfying a latent need. maybe i yearn his company and assuming meeting fellow samsters TOGETHER is par for course. Bro DYBJ, your post has stated very clearly the boundary of a FB r/s, i need to do some reflection myself :confused:
Dear WEG, trust me, u r not the 1st n wun b the last one wif this same dilemma wif rgds to tat so called boundary, thus the reason for me creating tat thread.
Hope I was able to help, n if i had, glad to hv helped :D

[senja88]

weg
u dont parade ur fb ard like bf by bringg him to social functions,weter samsters organised or not. you should limit your outings to sop like this...

pick-up point .... hotel/bed/room ... pick-up point

end of story.

pardon my language but u really eat, shit, fuck, bath, lick, suck, tcss in the hotel/bed/room. bringg these activities beyond the designatd location will cast unnecessary risk of expose into the r/s.

[curiouslala]

in my opinion, if the rs is just FB or FwB or NSA, both partner have no rights to limit both social circle. And you also can have more than one FB or FwB or NSA at once.
And alternate them when one is busy.
But if the rs is developing to the next level, as bgf kinda thing, both of you kinda have a rights to limit social circle.

So, i think both of you have to do abit reflection on what kinda rs that you're on right now. Is it a FB kinda thing or more BGF feeling?

Luckily, my FB okay with me to meet few bros from here.
Even i haven't go to an outing or drinking session with many samster or samstress joining in.

[Bodyache]

aren't u considered a samster as well? then why he meet u?

in other words, because u met other samster before, therefore he is afraid when he go out with u, other samster will identify u and hence refer him as another samster which he do not want to.

conclusion: very shameful to be seen with u? for example, there are bros who got together with masseur, ktv gals and even prostitutes (not referring u as one of these) and the bros accepted them for who they are, what they did IN THE PAST and lived happily (some of them...). if he likes u, he will have to accept for who u are and who u met or bonked with in the past. if not, this will forever be a prick in his heart. will u be truly happy? your own call

Haha bro no offence...reading your reply immediately the image of a man standing in front of a big pot with a huge stick in his hand...he....stir and stir and stir .......add salt pepper for seasoning too hehe!

Well said! Samster wan shui!

[masterq85]

Ts, advise frm newbie, follow ur heart, to give up and end all contact wif other samster or end wif the guy and continue contact wif other samster....

[frayern]

I think its because you are not pretty enough and he feel shy to let others know that he fuck you :eek: :eek:

If you are pretty even a married man will give up everything to be seen standing with you together . :D

Me stand by get zapped for above statement by your supporters , but truth always hurts . :D

[westendgirl]

I think its because you are not pretty enough and he feel shy to let others know that he fuck you.

If you are pretty even a married man will give up everything to be seen standing with you together .

Me stand by get zapped for above statement by your supporters , but truth always hurts . :D

admire your guts to say it but you are wrong boy. :D

i am not ugly and samsters have bigger hearts than to take offense at your comment. u have underestimated the intelligence and tolerance of brothers & sisters here.

[DYBJ]

I think its because you are not pretty enough and he feel shy to let others know that he fuck you :eek: :eek:

If you are pretty even a married man will give up everything to be seen standing with you together .

Me stand by get zapped for above statement by your supporters , but truth always hurts .

Wat is a rose to some is a piece of shit to others n vice versa, thus, one man's meat is another man's poison.
Also, external beauty is always plagued wif internal ugliness, n external ugliness more often than not, is filled wif inner beauty.
Thus the saying, some women were born to be used n thrown n some, we born to be loved, cared for & bear ur children ;)
A married man giving up everything to be seen wif a pretty girl is doin his family a favour, cos he just saved them from eternal damnation:rolleyes:

[frayern]

admire your guts to say it but you are wrong boy. :D

i am not ugly and samsters have bigger hearts than to take offense at your comment. u have underestimated the intelligence and tolerance of brothers & sisters here.

I am not saying you are ugly , just pointing out that some guys want to have a chio babe beside them so that can show off to others especially when the guy himself have some standard ( i can guarantee he have unless you are blind) :D

If i am in his shoes , i would not want to have an average girl with me outside too when people who knows me saw that my wife is a chio bu . :).

Maciam buay balance leh . :D

[frayern]

A married man giving up everything to be seen wif a pretty girl is doin his family a favour, cos he just saved them from eternal damnation:rolleyes:

And also the point to note is that the girl is so good till he is willing to get condemn . :p

Side note : To thread starter , i am not a boy , 100% older than you . :D

[DYBJ]

And also the point to note is that the girl is so good till he is willing to get condemn . :p
Self willingness to be condemned is a sign of self mental weakness, just like jealousy, envy n tale bearing.
See many players outside, hv super chio bu's wif them, still practice discretion.
Cos they know, it's just a pretty face n still nothing but a piece of meat bro ;)

[dodoboy]

well, this is actually a simple case of personal preference.

if you already know his character, and how he maintains his social circle. you should by now understand his requests.

no strings attached = no one owes anyone any reasoning for their actions. its basically fuck and go home.

unless either parties have lead on with emotional advances, then we'll have a total different situation.

keep it simple, make things clear. this thread will not be able to prove a point, because none of us are either of you.

our opinions may only serve as a discussion. the solution is yours to make, keeping things simple is always the way to go.

[westendgirl]

Bro fraven
Your point is noted. It is your opinion; i understand and respect your pov.

Bro DYBJ
Thanks for sparing me the trouble to explain. Totally concur with your view.


Thanks for all the views expressed. Once I talked to my FB and clarify, I will close this thread.

[westendgirl]

well, this is actually a simple case of personal preference.

if you already know his character, and how he maintains his social circle. you should by now understand his requests.

no strings attached = no one owes anyone any reasoning for their actions. its basically fuck and go home.

unless either parties have lead on with emotional advances, then we'll have a total different situation.

keep it simple, make things clear. this thread will not be able to prove a point, because none of us are either of you.

our opinions may only serve as a discussion. the solution is yours to make, keeping things simple is always the way to go.

Well the best way to a man's heart is through a woman mouth, and I have been there done that, it is easier said than done to keep things simple. Nevertheless, appreciate your advice. Thanks.

[BoinKING]

tbh you are old enough to decide.
it seems you care about this person enough to give a fuck.

so now its weird, you have feelings for him or something?

[Rickey]

1000 apology to sister hickeybites. the three reasons you put up are very logical and can only come from one with depth and insight.

bro Rickey thanks for your support. BOSS standard is very high. 1st meeting maybe ok to insist on anonymity but difficult for subsequent contact.

Bro fraven
Your point is noted. It is your opinion; i understand and respect your pov.
Bro DYBJ
Thanks for sparing me the trouble to explain. Totally concur with your view.

Thanks for all the views expressed. Once I talked to my FB and clarify, I will close this thread.

You're welcome, sis WEG ! :)...hv always been my pleasure to giv my support to bros/sis here like u who hv good n appreciative hearts, r kind, courteous n respectful of others. IMHO, believe the sis here is generally a good gal, brave, pretty good in her English, can argue n reason well, witty, articulate n courteous as can be seen frm the way she replies to bros/sis in tis thread of hers ..

Hope u hv, sis, by now got all the advice, comments n views tat u hv been looking for frm bros/sis here...my best wishes to you n ur FB as u prepare to close tis thread of urs :)...Take care !

[OceanLi]

Well the best way to a man's heart is through a woman mouth, and I have been there done that, it is easier said than done to keep things simple. Nevertheless, appreciate your advice. Thanks.

Sistas, you r creative. ;) An old saying ; An way to Man heart's is being able to cook in the kitchen, work like a Snr CFO, and rock like a rabbits. :D

[bigangry]

he gave this excuse before but i told him they ARE my friends, for goodness sake! I can share his worry if he did not hook me up and stayed an island. but after we started and try to cut me off... *sigh* :mad:

then in this case, to be brutally honest either he feel your friends are dodgy or he only want to fuck u then fuck off.

[carpark67]

Hi support you sister.

[PuErCha]

Dear WestEndGirl, i feel you should have a good talk with your FB, from the way things are being said by you, it doesn't sound like a FB at all

[back_it_in]

weg
u dont parade ur fb ard like bf by bringg him to social functions,weter samsters organised or not. you should limit your outings to sop like this...

pick-up point .... hotel/bed/room ... pick-up point

end of story.

pardon my language but u really eat, shit, fuck, bath, lick, suck, tcss in the hotel/bed/room. bringg these activities beyond the designatd location will cast unnecessary risk of expose into the r/s.

actually, i beg to differ on this. it all depends on the boundaries set by both parties. having a FB sometimes can also be like being a willing spare tyre. meaning if my air stewardess gf goes on a long haul flight, my FB can also be the person to go out with me. it all depends on how you all go out with ur FB. Clearly, you shouldn't get mushy and clingy in public! do that only in the room. somehow, I feel most guys think FB are just for fucks! FB means FUCK BUDDIES! it's like having a cool friend who can give you free fucks. I think it's alright if you want to go with your FB or anything else but you just have to carefully set the god damn BOUNDARIES in the first place!

[Omegan]

tbh you are old enough to decide.
it seems you care about this person enough to give a fuck.

so now its weird, you have feelings for him or something?

Yes somehow I have the same hunch as bro BoinKING.

It's like you care and bother a tad bit too much, to want to gather opinions on this particular issue, which is nothing wrong of course. However it does seems that you are inclined to maintaining the relationship, whether or not he has a change of heart about his 'meet samsters' stand. So the opinions and advices you received may give you a rough idea, but unlikely to spur you on to take any drastic actions right?

On the other hand, he does not seem to care as much. He has simply told you about his stand and preference, and I believe, provided you with reasons that I do not find ridiculous. It might be a cover up, it might be genuine. I would not know.

So, my pov is: you do what you want to do, whatever makes u happy and happier, but do not force or insist or try to convince him to do what he does not want to, or not comfortable with. Vice versa, you would expect the same from him, not to induce you to do things you do not like, or not do things that you like. Both parties have to be happy in a relationship for it to flourish, whether it is fb, marriage, bf gf, or even just simple friends. If it does not work out, it simply does not. It will end one day then.

You seem mature and do not appear childish or brainless so I guess you would actually know what to do logically already. The question is whether the heart can follow through and actually do the right things, as always...

[BoinKING]

actually it sounds to me like a bf/gf arguement then want to ask opinion to prove the guy wrong..

haha sorry but it really does sound that way.. if its like then have a happy relationship!

[sammyboyfor]

YSo the opinions and advices you received may give you a rough idea,

"Advice" is a non countable noun; you do not add an "s" to make it plural.

"Advice" is like "Rice". You say... "Please pass me the Rice." You don't say "Please pass me the rices" because "Rice", like "Advice", is a non countable noun.

There are many other examples. To test your knowledge of non countable nouns, go to English Language Quiz - Countable or Non-countable Nouns (I-TESL-J) (http://a4esl.org/q/j/ck/ch-countnouns.html) and take the test.

[westendgirl]

in my opinion, if the rs is just FB or FwB or NSA, both partner have no rights to limit both social circle. And you also can have more than one FB or FwB or NSA at once.
And alternate them when one is busy.
But if the rs is developing to the next level, as bgf kinda thing, both of you kinda have a rights to limit social circle.

So, i think both of you have to do abit reflection on what kinda rs that you're on right now. Is it a FB kinda thing or more BGF feeling?

Luckily, my FB okay with me to meet few bros from here.
Even i haven't go to an outing or drinking session with many samster or samstress joining in.

thanks for sharing. your FB is more open and can see u r good with him. congrat!

Haha bro no offence...reading your reply immediately the image of a man standing in front of a big pot with a huge stick in his hand...he....stir and stir and stir .......add salt pepper for seasoning too hehe!

Well said! Samster wan shui!

bodyache: dont really understand your post. sorry!

Ts, advise frm newbie, follow ur heart, to give up and end all contact wif other samster or end wif the guy and continue contact wif other samster....

u r a fan of master Q lol. me too. it is advice not advise hor. thanks and appreciate.

[westendgirl]

You're welcome, sis WEG ! ..hv always been my pleasure to giv my support to bros/sis here like u who hv good n appreciative hearts, r kind, courteous n respectful of others. IMHO, believe the sis here is generally a good gal, brave, pretty good in her English, can argue n reason well, witty, articulate n courteous as can be seen frm the way she replies to bros/sis in tis thread of hers ..

Hope u hv, sis, by now got all the advice, comments n views tat u hv been looking for frm bros/sis here...my best wishes to you n ur FB as u prepare to close tis thread of urs...Take care !

i am clear now and looking forward to a closure and move on. Rickey thanks for being here and support all along.

Sistas, you r creative. ;) An old saying ; An way to Man heart's is being able to cook in the kitchen, work like a Snr CFO, and rock like a rabbits. :D

OceanLi; that's a tall order and better leave it to the wife. i m just as happy to fill in the rocking part only. :D

then in this case, to be brutally honest either he feel your friends are dodgy or he only want to fuck u then fuck off.

he has his reasons and i am going to find out soon. thanks for dropping by.

Dear WestEndGirl, i feel you should have a good talk with your FB, from the way things are being said by you, it doesn't sound like a FB at all

i am beginning to feel i am in the wrong. keeping my mind open till i talk to him.

[Loner08]

Most of the time during the initial stage of FBs, both parties are very clear of the rules and intention of the relationships. However as time pass, when both are getting more comfortable and closer, expectations will somehow change without knowing (excluding pro-FBs).

Don't see any problem with TS trying to intro her SBF friends to her FB (in fact to me its a form of assurance to him). However if he is reluctant, he must have his reason. Maybe tell him its a business conference that he must be present the next time :D


Conclusion is why want to force someone into something that he or she who unwilling to do? A single word in whatever "rules" of the game is RESPECT. ;) Ended with everyone happy.... Why not?

Totally agree :cool:

[westendgirl]

actually, i beg to differ on this. it all depends on the boundaries set by both parties. having a FB sometimes can also be like being a willing spare tyre. meaning if my air stewardess gf goes on a long haul flight, my FB can also be the person to go out with me. it all depends on how you all go out with ur FB. Clearly, you shouldn't get mushy and clingy in public! do that only in the room. somehow, I feel most guys think FB are just for fucks! FB means FUCK BUDDIES! it's like having a cool friend who can give you free fucks. I think it's alright if you want to go with your FB or anything else but you just have to carefully set the god damn BOUNDARIES in the first place!

bro back_it_in,
thanks for your lengthy pm. find it very insightful and contain lessons that i can draw from.

senja88 bro post is a bit too simplistic to my liking too. appreciate his input though. thanks for the explanation, bro but can dont use "spare tyre" analogy on us ladies or not? cut too close to the bone :D

Yes somehow I have the same hunch as bro BoinKING.

It's like you care and bother a tad bit too much, to want to gather opinions on this particular issue, which is nothing wrong of course. However it does seems that you are inclined to maintaining the relationship, whether or not he has a change of heart about his 'meet samsters' stand. So the opinions and advices you received may give you a rough idea, but unlikely to spur you on to take any drastic actions right? you are quite right on this, bro

On the other hand, he does not seem to care as much. He has simply told you about his stand and preference, and I believe, provided you with reasons that I do not find ridiculous. It might be a cover up, it might be genuine. I would not know.

So, my pov is: you do what you want to do, whatever makes u happy and happier, but do not force or insist or try to convince him to do what he does not want to, or not comfortable with. Vice versa, you would expect the same from him, not to induce you to do things you do not like, or not do things that you like. Both parties have to be happy in a relationship for it to flourish, whether it is fb, marriage, bf gf, or even just simple friends. If it does not work out, it simply does not. It will end one day then.

You seem mature and do not appear childish or brainless so I guess you would actually know what to do logically already. The question is whether the heart can follow through and actually do the right things, as always...

bro Omegan
you words speak very closely to what i feel by now. i know what i need to do from this point onward. thanks!

actually it sounds to me like a bf/gf arguement then want to ask opinion to prove the guy wrong..

haha sorry but it really does sound that way.. if its like then have a happy relationship!

mr fingers, like your humour better but there is truth in what you say...

"Advice" is a non countable noun; you do not add an "s" to make it plural.

"Advice" is like "Rice". You say... "Please pass me the Rice." You don't say "Please pass me the rices" because "Rice", like "Advice", is a non countable noun.

There are many other examples. To test your knowledge of non countable nouns, go to English Language Quiz - Countable or Non-countable Nouns (I-TESL-J) (http://a4esl.org/q/j/ck/ch-countnouns.html) and take the test.

BOSS, thanks for holding court on the usage of English here. *salute*

[westendgirl]

Most of the time during the initial stage of FBs, both parties are very clear of the rules and intention of the relationships. However as time pass, when both are getting more comfortable and closer, expectations will somehow change without knowing (excluding pro-FBs). very true

Don't see any problem with TS trying to intro her SBF friends to her FB (in fact to me its a form of assurance to him). However if he is reluctant, he must have his reason. Maybe tell him its a business conference that he must be present the next time cant sabo him like that.



hahaha ya must be the-past-initial stage itchyness to want to show him ard :D

[westendgirl]

"let's go for a weekend getaway. will call u in the evening"

just received the above text from him. i dont know how he feel at the moment but i am glad he make contact. look forward to the trip and move on with our r/s.

thank you brothers/sisters for all the advice and guidance. i am clearer on our r/s now than from where i started a few days ago. with this post, i declare this thread closed.

One last bit of message, for those who pm me

1. asking to be my friends, you are welcome and i had replied to all of you.
2. asking to meet up, sorry i cant. hope you understand.
3. asking me to dump my fb and give them a chance. thanks but no thanks.
4. asking me to intro FB, u r asking the wrong question. all samsters are potential FB. you just have to find the key to unlock them. there are a lot of threads written on this topic.

one final message; those who like me to up their point, please pm me. and those who up me, please leave your nick so i can return the favour.

Good bye and thank you all!!

[DYBJ]

"a FB is what is left of a lover, after the love had been extracted"

Hur hur WEG wif 1 thread u started,
你张大了，恭喜你.
Hv a wonderful wild unforgettable trip my dear ;)

[westendgirl]

Hur hur WEG wif 1 thread u started,
你张大了，恭喜你.
Hv a wonderful wild unforgettable trip my dear ;)

yup, i forgot my own signature wisdom. thanks for the support. see you around.

[pussyslime8]

yup, i forgot my own signature wisdom. thanks for the support. see you around.

Gathering and meeting people is good. Just look at here.
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=307228
No love, no lovers only back stabbing and internal conflicts.
Sex is never important, only friendship is?

[asdfghjkl]

so he may have a reason? :o

[Erasure]

yup, i forgot my own signature wisdom. thanks for the support. see you around.

Just curious...are you 16 years and above? ;)

[<<totally>>]

Just curious...are you 16 years and above? ;)

I have reasons to believe TS is around 30 while her counterpart is around 40+ range. Ha ha..just a feeling. But over 16 is for sure as the way she presented herself is someone mentally matured.;)

[BoinKING]

Every girl likes to be 16 and falling crazy in love, being adult sucks even for the guys who just wanna have fun.
However when lines blur and feeling develop it becomes an estrange relationship, which is neither healthy or good when its complicated.

However life is short, and this may be one of the little pleasure any human would yearn.. companionship..

However humans are selfish and greedy, and there's always a sense of possesiveness ESP if its a good thing.

All I can say is enjoy the moment, enjoy your time but know when to stop before the shit hits the fan and damage control has to be done.

Be as it may, make love not war.. there's enough crap in life to make it miserable, why complicate stuff when its really a simple thing

[Heng09777]

hi westendgirl if you would like to broaden your social circles u could join my groups of frenz. just pm me!

[Rickey]

Gathering and meeting people is good. Just look at here. No love, no lovers only back stabbing and internal conflicts.
Sex is never important, only friendship is?
Our daily lives begin wif n revolves around pple ard us both at home n at work in our various offices n the relationships tat we hv formed, i.e. our frens etc..They can either make us :) or break us :( if we r not strong enough. So its very impt to maintain n keep those r/s as healthy n strong as possible..But we hv to ensure tat we DO NOT make any silly mistakes, else those r/s will snap easily n won't be restorable or recoverable..

But its always good n beneficial for us to make frens rather than enemies, build bridges rather than erect walls around us.. Everything else comes after we hv made frens. Though it not really the end of the world, we lose our meaning n purpose in life n find it hard to go on if we do not hv any frens to interact wif, unless we r the very independent, disciplined n focussed type who know wat we want to do wif our lives n capable enough to achieve them ourselves which i believe few of us can.. thus, tat is why since the beginning of time, we were made male n female, n Eve was made as a helpmate to Adam..to help him live on his life..w/o frens one can hardly move on in life, though not impossible...my 3 cents view

[IwasApo]

thus, tat is why since the beginning of time, we were made male n female, n Eve was made as a helpmate to Adam..to help him live on his life..w/o frens one can hardly move on in life, though not impossible...my 3 cents view

Adam and Eve is fine. But Eve wasn't Adam's FB
The next story after Adam and Eve was cast out of the garden is
Abel being killed by Cain. Cain was jealeous of Abel's blessing and killed him.
Until today, there are many insecure empty shells like the sons of Cain left on this planet.

Its not about not having friends, but you there is this thing call the law of diminishing returns as well. This law works v well in TS' problem.

[Secret7]

Where got Cain and Abel in China? Maybe they come from Australia? Or India, or America?

Wha seh, sex forum also got Christian teaching....... old timers in the bible also got many mistresses and look for sex. Same like people in this forum.

[Frankiestine]

I been in this forum since day one and have never ever met a single SBF kaki before. I don't see anything wrong with that, just want to protect my own privacy. Well correction to that part of not having met anyone, short for two sbf gals. One was a short lived FB, think we met up for about 6 occasion before work got committments got into our work. The other, only once, imagine monster been vetted to be a potential FB. Unfortunately, didn't make it pass the first round. Gals also got criterias for FB ok...

I can understand why TS FB would rather she not meet up with any other SBF guys. Hullo we talking about SBF, where 9 out of 10 guys, just can't wait to get his dick into a gal pussy. There will be the occasional goody two shoes who uses this forum for sex education...theory. But other then that, its like throwing a piece of blood filled meat into shark infested waters.

[LadyH]

I been in this forum since day one and have never ever met a single SBF kaki before. I don't see anything wrong with that, just want to protect my own privacy. Well correction to that part of not having met anyone, short for two sbf gals. One was a short lived FB, think we met up for about 6 occasion before work got committments got into our work. The other, only once, imagine monster been vetted to be a potential FB. Unfortunately, didn't make it pass the first round. Gals also got criterias for FB ok...

I can understand why TS FB would rather she not meet up with any other SBF guys. Hullo we talking about SBF, where 9 out of 10 guys, just can't wait to get his dick into a gal pussy. There will be the occasional goody two shoes who uses this forum for sex education...theory. But other then that, its like throwing a piece of blood filled meat into shark infested waters.

Why monster don't believe sex is not important only friendship is. We are here to make valuable friends.

[Frankiestine]

Why monster don't believe sex is not important only friendship is. We are here to make valuable friends.

Don't get me wrong, there are actually some great guys and gals here. But perhaps due to my nature of work in the past, it is always best to be low key and discreet.

[<<totally>>]

Don't get me wrong, there are actually some great guys and gals here. But perhaps due to my nature of work in the past, it is always best to be low key and discreet.

Bro Frankiestine人怕红，猪怕肥！ si bo?

Suddenly I got a feeling but hope you are not a CHAO LANG. :D

[Innoncent$]

Good you had found your light, which I hope that led you to good will not harmful to anyone. Always remember, it is good to meet and treasure the opportunity rather than force and insist.

Good time and good day.

"let's go for a weekend getaway. will call u in the evening"

just received the above text from him. i dont know how he feel at the moment but i am glad he make contact. look forward to the trip and move on with our r/s.

thank you brothers/sisters for all the advice and guidance. i am clearer on our r/s now than from where i started a few days ago. with this post, i declare this thread closed.

One last bit of message, for those who pm me

1. asking to be my friends, you are welcome and i had replied to all of you.
2. asking to meet up, sorry i cant. hope you understand.
3. asking me to dump my fb and give them a chance. thanks but no thanks.
4. asking me to intro FB, u r asking the wrong question. all samsters are potential FB. you just have to find the key to unlock them. there are a lot of threads written on this topic.

one final message; those who like me to up their point, please pm me. and those who up me, please leave your nick so i can return the favour.

Good bye and thank you all!!

[justdifferent]

omg this is totally unfair and sexist. wtf! female samster is slut; male samster is he-man? bro littlepok, thanks for pointing this out.

"Slut - a woman with the morals of a man."

Life isn't fair. That's how society views people. A guy who engages in casual sex with many women? He's a stud. The very scenario with a woman instead? She's just a slut.

Not everyone judges the way most people do though, so don't worry. It is sexist and unfair, but that's just the way life is.

[Frankiestine]

Bro Frankiestine人怕红，猪怕肥！ si bo?

Suddenly I got a feeling but hope you are not a CHAO LANG. :D

wah piang you got me there, limpeh jiak ang mo kantang....please translate...hmm why you say i chao lang leh?

[Mindy]

wah piang you got me there, limpeh jiak ang mo kantang....please translate...hmm why you say i chao lang leh?

politic of envy, Frank! swine fear fat and mortal fear fame for both bring death and suffering. :D

where is TS, no sound no picture? good if she can come back to close the loop. very curious how her fb view all the feedback and comment. His woman is steady and cool. Hope he is worth her time and effort.

[Frankiestine]

politic of envy, Frank! swine fear fat and mortal fear fame for both bring death and suffering. :D

.

Wah piang you really got me more cuntfused there...limpeh come here for sex kangtao leh not philosophy...:confused::confused:

[Mindy]

Wah piang you really got me more cuntfused there...limpeh come here for sex kangtao leh not philosophy...:confused::confused:

sorry Frank. it is just a translation of bro <<totally>> Chinese words. a direct translation of 'men fear of red and pig fear of fat' just wont cut it. you deserve better... :D

[geckoSG]

Very simple, if your FB does not like to anyhow socialized n blow his cover, then respect his or her wish, they have their reason.

However, he or her cannot restrict you from meeting other people. That's about it.

Know the limitation and both can get well very easily.

[<<totally>>]

wah piang you got me there, limpeh jiak ang mo kantang....please translate...hmm why you say i chao lang leh?

Hmmm.... okie I will just do a quick one. Basically fame portends trouble for men just as fattening does for pigs. Both of the cases do have a common ending which is death.:p

You already answered my doubts by asking me with that question of yours.:(

[newyorker88]

Prob cos he is a businessman n might think that he might bump into someone he know within the business circle n become awkward? Did he say y?


Very good answer. That is why I cheong alone too. In business, others may get to you or blackmail you, knowing what other "businesses" you have. In this forum, you write your SEXperience and other stuff, and end of the day, it can be turned against you by others for their end means. Imagine you as a businessman, and they use it to threaten you, expose you to your family, or other stuff. Business world is a very small circle, and there are always gossips among the circle. What you do, good or bad, shrew decisions, tactics, and etc, are always spoken about by others among themselves. certainly, your personal life, especially bonking life should not be exposed out too much either. You never know when you can be the next superstar in porn industry, all becos of money, or contracts.

Boss SAM advice is correct. NEVER DIVERGE out your nick to real people. You never know what they can do to you.

[Frankiestine]

Hmmm.... okie I will just do a quick one. Basically fame portends trouble for men just as fattening does for pigs. Both of the cases do have a common ending which is death.:p

You already answered my doubts by asking me with that question of yours.:(
ah but regardless of one status, death is a certainty whether famous or fat..:D

but eh what doubts you have of me...seems like you are disappointed with the answer..:confused:

[westendgirl]

hi i am back! actually it has been a while since i m back from my hols. spent some time to recollect my thought and a gesture to my partner to lie low for a while. the hols was a good break away and soul searching for direction to our r/s. just opening up this thread again to pen my thought and hope it will be useful to future samsters who find themselves in the same situation.

i learned more about him after this episode. and myself. i try to talk a little bit about him without blowing his cover.

He has a big heart. I m not as invisible as i thought i was to his friends. He actually talked about me to his SBF and non-SBF. He got a earful or clickful from his pals here when they see this thread. But i appreciate him for letting me take this path. I made up to him over the holidays with some new skill i picked up here :D

the different thoughts on r/s and their relationship in SBF discussed in this thread has also opened up his heart. Which is not easy for an old dog and i appreciate. He now allows me to mingle with my existing SBF friends. New one, case by case basis. He is still paranoid but i will explain why later.

He is an old timer and know the working of SBF. He was and still trying to protect me from getting hurt here. He actually doesn't mind i go out with another guy but not flings. He know his limitation as he is busy most of the time but i am not complaining. i have my own activities to go to too.

I asked him whether he send his friends to advise me but he said no. He wanted me to hear it from the forum itself. He did not read the thread until the morning he text me. It was a hols he had promised but never delivered until this incident.

So, in conclusion i can say every r/s here in SBF is unique. We have to know our boundary, limitation of our partner, our need & tolerance and last but not least when to cry for help. SBF is not only about sex per se but mostly it is about us and our hidden need. Ironically, since it is hidden r/s, the only way for it to work is to be as "open" as possible for both partners.

Not sure whether it is the effect of the sea breeze or the lifting of a big boulder off my shoulder, the holidays seem to whizz by very fast. Before we know it, we were back in Singapore and back to our daily grind.

[DYBJ]

Not sure whether it is the effect of the sea breeze or the lifting of a big boulder off my shoulder, the holidays seem to whizz by very fast. Before we know it, we were back in Singapore and back to our daily grind.

I respect ur man.
Old dogs in here knows of how many wolves in disguises, knights in shining armours all on the prowl on the pretext of "FRIEND!"
U shud be glad there's someone looking out for ur interest at heart.
Yup, the holiday was a DREAM ya...lolzzzzz.....now wake up, back to reality WEG:D

[Omegan]

I am sure you are a better judge of him than any of us here. You sound chirpy and even sense happiness ooozzzing out from your post. I guess it's all good then ")

[lalakers]

take things one at a time and enjoy each and every moment of it.

i cant say the same for myself now, but see the people you want to see, talk to people you want to talk to, and if you really want or need to, sleep with whoever you want to sleep with. no regrets.

[IwasApo]

Not sure whether it is the effect of the sea breeze or the lifting of a big boulder off my shoulder, the holidays seem to whizz by very fast. Before we know it, we were back in Singapore and back to our daily grind.

Congrats. I see you have received some form of enlightnment and you have level up. :D

[westendgirl]

I respect ur man.
Old dogs in here knows of how many wolves in disguises, knights in shining armours all on the prowl on the pretext of "FRIEND!"
U shud be glad there's someone looking out for ur interest at heart.
Yup, the holiday was a DREAM ya...lolzzzzz.....now wake up, back to reality WEG

Thanks for your kind words and support. Yup, reality sucks but at least i have him ard. :D

I am sure you are a better judge of him than any of us here. You sound chirpy and even sense happiness ooozzzing out from your post. I guess it's all good then ")

Well, things are good now but we never gg to let our guard down due to the nature of our r/s.

take things one at a time and enjoy each and every moment of it.

i cant say the same for myself now, but see the people you want to see, talk to people you want to talk to, and if you really want or need to, sleep with whoever you want to sleep with. no regrets.

care to share? i cant really catch what you are trying to express.

Congrats. I see you have received some form of enlightnment and you have level up.

yup had levelled up but wont say i m enlightened. me not that old ... :D

[<<totally>>]

but eh what doubts you have of me...seems like you are disappointed with the answer..:confused:

Yes, you are right lor. Cannot blame, this forum what type of people also have. See the underage girl case, you know roughly the range. As for me, my location say all. Lolz..!:o

[<<totally>>]

Not sure whether it is the effect of the sea breeze or the lifting of a big boulder off my shoulder, the holidays seem to whizz by very fast. Before we know it, we were back in Singapore and back to our daily grind.

Good to see things going well for you. All happy moments goes in a fast forward motion for all I guess.

I got a classic example will be a friend outside waiting and a friend inside fucking. Both spend an equal amount of time but the one outside waiting feels like the wait is damn long and wonders when it will be done.

The one inside fucking, when he finished he will think to himself why so fast time up. He will think the buzzer was pressed before time is over.:D

This is a part of life, treasures all the one around you and live life to the maximum. You just finished a chapter of your life journey and a new one awaits you ahead.

[Frankiestine]

Yes, you are right lor. Cannot blame, this forum what type of people also have. See the underage girl case, you know roughly the range. As for me, my location say all. Lolz..!:o

Hmmm perhaps you could ask straight to the point and clear all ambiguity rather then seeking an answer subtlely....my brain transplanted leh not original so cannot process question especially those that has sublimal meanings behind it....:)

[<<totally>>]

Hmmm perhaps you could ask straight to the point and clear all ambiguity rather then seeking an answer subtlely....my brain transplanted leh not original so cannot process question especially those that has sublimal meanings behind it....:)

Bro Fran, nvm la some things i think dun know better. Keke. We exchanged thoughts like now, isn't it better. =) 有什么得罪的地方， 多多见谅。:p

[lalakers]

what I was saying is to take things one at a time, and as it comes enjoy it thoroughly, do what you want to do because life doesnt give a second chance. So fret not and do the things you want to do, get to know people you want to know and heck sleep with anyone you wish to sleep with.

just be free!