i feel guilty...

[Wolfiexx1]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i've been with 2 china girls...two of them also like me very much. one is a student the other i got to know in a nightclub....as i have always heard stories of guys being cheated by them...i always play my cards right,determined not to get 'eaten' so i get my fair share of foc fucks, and in return...i pay for some of thier expenditure...in my mind, i will be telling myself its like paying for the fuck but cheaper...this cycle goes on well for me until somethings start happening...i realise the two girls really care alot for me...i dismiss them off as another tactic of theirs....well,i earn 4.5k a mth..but i only tell them i'm a despatch rider earning 1.2k and not rich...sometimes when they call me out,i dont feel like going out....i gave excuse like no money....they say they will pay..sometimes they push $50 to me...other times...they pay for the hotel....of cuz i rejected thier money as i know they do not earn money easily...but twice i let the lady pay for the hotel... and one more thing i feel most guilty is this coming valentines...one of them is flying over to spend the day with me...knowing she do not have much money left....i asked her how she got the money to fly here....she told me it was from the savings....but i later found out she went to borrow from loan shark in china and didn't tell me....when i confronted her, she still insist it was her savings....now i also dun know what to do....should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

[DNAT]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

....any advices,bros?

You did not force the gal to do those mentioned above rite?
If no, just take whatever is being offered to you .. :)

[mansee77]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i'm confused....any advices,bros?

It's true that there are some that'll take as much as they can from u.
You should know them better n if theirs is genuine, then just pay for it, not much right, bro? :)

[tokkon1]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

....any advices,bros?


This is a perpetual dilemma that is goin to remain as long as human beings are beset with concience. Guilt is the result of getting something from another thru deception. When you realised that the other 'sacrifices' becos of true feelings and nothin else, well guess that's the problem you are having now.

Sorri bro, no answer from me, just sharing my thoughts. I always prefer FPF. Fcuk, Pay, Forget). May not enjoy the GFE or shiokness of $$$ free relationship but the final price you pay may be much higher.

Hope evrthing works out for you...

[lawry]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

So it seems that not all prc is the one who is so called "cheating".. this is one typical man who "cheat" the prc feelings too.. So in life... even relationship is gambling... the two prc gamble on u.. and some sg man gamble on other prc..

before we advise u... ask urself.. wat do u wan?

be clear abt it urself before u seek advise.

[HuiGe3387]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i've been with 2 china girls...two of them also like me very much.
...should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

I would say that they are truthful to you and like you a lot.

S'pore men are considered better than the PRC men because we are considerate, caring and show the PRC female due respect. We are also well trained by the S'pore chabors to be damn obedient and care for the family.

The girls may have their way to earn their bucks thru whatever means, but they are human and need love and respect, maybe something you have given them. So they dun your money ...

I can share this because I have similar experience....

[justme]

Bro Wolfiexx1, you are really power..got gals willing to do such things for you.

yeah as a Bro says...be clear of what you want.

[Wannabeone]

Oooo u must be pretty handsome....or your skills (whether verbal or oral or physical) must be damn good....... well enjoy while u can....for all you know its their test on you.....so still play smart....and never get your emotional head in...or you will be in trouble more often than not :cool:

[Ice2005]

So the cheaper F@*K is repaid with guilt. I will think that if it is true that she borrow $ fr loan shark, than it is right full that you should pay her back to settle the debts to lower your guilt. Or she might be push to the worehouse to services the wolf... :p .

[rabitsu]

[QUOTE=Wolfiexx1]i do feel very guilty after reading the post...



Don't mess around with decent girls!.
Pay for service next time.......

[darke]

Don't mess around with decent girls!.
Pay for service next time.......[/QUOTE]

agree :(

[GLHunter]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i've been with 2 china girls...two of them also like me very much. one is a student the other i got to know in a nightclub....as i have always heard stories of guys being cheated by them...i always play my cards right,determined not to get 'eaten' so i get my fair share of foc fucks, and in return...i pay for some of thier expenditure...in my mind, i will be telling myself its like paying for the fuck but cheaper...this cycle goes on well for me until somethings start happening...i realise the two girls really care alot for me...i dismiss them off as another tactic of theirs....well,i earn 4.5k a mth..but i only tell them i'm a despatch rider earning 1.2k and not rich...sometimes when they call me out,i dont feel like going out....i gave excuse like no money....they say they will pay..sometimes they push $50 to me...other times...they pay for the hotel....of cuz i rejected thier money as i know they do not earn money easily...but twice i let the lady pay for the hotel... and one more thing i feel most guilty is this coming valentines...one of them is flying over to spend the day with me...knowing she do not have much money left....i asked her how she got the money to fly here....she told me it was from the savings....but i later found out she went to borrow from loan shark in china and didn't tell me....when i confronted her, she still insist it was her savings....now i also dun know what to do....should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

bro.. if she is flyin over for u especially, there is no gain on her part but $$$ n
precious time spent. if u feel bad abt it maybe u can give her a bit of $ to at
least cover some of the airfare. but if she intend to fl as well as meeting u then forget it. coz she juz want to make it sound nice that its for you especially when its not. then she is a fxxkin bitch!!!

juz my humble opinion.
Cheers for more sextisfyin bonks for the year of chicken!!!

[yongzhen]

Just wondering, how do u know that she really borrowed the money from loan sharks in China?

[er0s47]

Theres no right or wrong. It maybe a scram or its genuinue. It really depends on yur judgement of the person. NOt all china girls are wolves in sheeps clothing some are genuinue but of course those are the fewer ones.

If its real, then u could be viewed as a cheater
IF its a scram, then u played your cards right.

At the end of the day bros here can only advise coz they can't judge the person u dealing with

[Tiong]

or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

She might be genuine but only u can tell b'cos u r the one facing it. But when u become genuine to her, move by her sincerity, that is the time u gets into big headache. Are U prepared to be with her 4 a lifetime? Think carefully, the moment u get emotionally involved and u didn't realise it, it is going to cost u more than $.

[BobParis]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i've been with 2 china girls...two of them also like me very much. one is a student the other i got to know in a nightclub....as i have always heard stories of guys being cheated by them...i always play my cards right,determined not to get 'eaten' so i get my fair share of foc fucks, and in return...i pay for some of thier expenditure...in my mind, i will be telling myself its like paying for the fuck but cheaper...this cycle goes on well for me until somethings start happening...i realise the two girls really care alot for me...i dismiss them off as another tactic of theirs....well,i earn 4.5k a mth..but i only tell them i'm a despatch rider earning 1.2k and not rich...sometimes when they call me out,i dont feel like going out....i gave excuse like no money....they say they will pay..sometimes they push $50 to me...other times...they pay for the hotel....of cuz i rejected thier money as i know they do not earn money easily...but twice i let the lady pay for the hotel... and one more thing i feel most guilty is this coming valentines...one of them is flying over to spend the day with me...knowing she do not have much money left....i asked her how she got the money to fly here....she told me it was from the savings....but i later found out she went to borrow from loan shark in china and didn't tell me....when i confronted her, she still insist it was her savings....now i also dun know what to do....should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?



dude, the story u said , i got heard b4 lor, its similar, haha, i got a frd told me her frd got cheated like this, they said chinese gals they can go for free fuck wif ya for months, they dun mind, cuz they want to cheat ya a bigger amount, i tell ya this, u can wait and see, after she spent V day here wif ya, when she went back, she will call ya and cry and said she gonna chased by the loan shark , and want a large sum, then if everything is like what i predicted, u can know its true, if after 6 months or so, she still did not ask money from ya, then u can repay her this small amount wah, what s the hurry??? think abt it again, are u really that charming to her? is she very pretty, is so , y she wanna date ya?? my 2 cents worth

cheers

[AhYoung]

she juz want to make it sound nice that its for you especially when its not. then she is a fxxkin bitch!!!

the above statement may be truth... from i am gather PRC is good in acting and reallly to invest their body and $$$ on u.. when u married them, they got their pr status, gone... this is their investment which worth $XXx,XXX now.
:D

Ask yourself, do u love them. or just want to get some cheap sex. if love them, choose one of them and invest all of u... if 2nd option then it meet your target and you do not need to pay them any cents.

[BobParis]

i miss out this point, so aft say, 6 months, u pay her back , which will make ya feel better, u can be wif her, as real valentine, just dun give too much money at once and dun ever ever ever marry her!!!! they may just out there for PR

she juz want to make it sound nice that its for you especially when its not. then she is a fxxkin bitch!!!

the above statement may be truth... from i am gather PRC is good in acting and reallly to invest their body and $$$ on u.. when u married them, they got their pr status, gone... this is their investment which worth $XXx,XXX now.
:D

Ask yourself, do u love them. or just want to get some cheap sex. if love them, choose one of them and invest all of u... if 2nd option then it meet your target and you do not need to pay them any cents.

[tokugawa]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

i've been with 2 china girls...two of them also like me very much. one is a student the other i got to know in a nightclub....as i have always heard stories of guys being cheated by them...i always play my cards right,determined not to get 'eaten' so i get my fair share of foc fucks, and in return...i pay for some of thier expenditure...in my mind, i will be telling myself its like paying for the fuck but cheaper...this cycle goes on well for me until somethings start happening...i realise the two girls really care alot for me...i dismiss them off as another tactic of theirs....well,i earn 4.5k a mth..but i only tell them i'm a despatch rider earning 1.2k and not rich...sometimes when they call me out,i dont feel like going out....i gave excuse like no money....they say they will pay..sometimes they push $50 to me...other times...they pay for the hotel....of cuz i rejected thier money as i know they do not earn money easily...but twice i let the lady pay for the hotel... and one more thing i feel most guilty is this coming valentines...one of them is flying over to spend the day with me...knowing she do not have much money left....i asked her how she got the money to fly here....she told me it was from the savings....but i later found out she went to borrow from loan shark in china and didn't tell me....when i confronted her, she still insist it was her savings....now i also dun know what to do....should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

Hey bro, you must be very the yandao. Have you ask yourself why you deserve the treatment while other bros are not ? If you are not yandao or smooth talker then you must becareful about the intention of the prc girl. Do you know what is the meaning of let go long fishing thread and fishing for big fish? No doubt there are also good prc girl lah.Inside a basket also have good and bad apple lah. It all boil down to your own judgement since we don't know about the girl. Why not you intro to us and let us test water for you ? :D (just joking man)

[Prince Spa]

You are one damn lucky jackass! Got 2 girls who love you so much. Me one also cannot find. :(

Now is your time to tell them the truth. See whether they still love you or not.

[simimabochap]

brother brother what can I say
fuck the girls and let them pay
this matter whether test or real
depend largely on your attitude skill
since u say u are lowly paid
they will flock to u like a smitten bait
U should feel quilty to play this game
playing with their feelings without any shame
there can be only two options to settle this matter
pay them their dues now and not dread any further
if u are reciprocating their feeling with false pretense
u can be sure of the repercussions ,sure headache then
U can only put your foot in ONE boat
unless u are fucking the girls just for shiok
I suggest u disappear from their lifes to go on
this time use your head to think what went wrong....

[hock19]

comes back to the statement that nothing is free in this world. You tried playing with them and now, it comes back to you. I think if you are a decent man, you will try to see what can be done to help your girl, that is, if you feel that you are up to it.

[LOTR3]

if u really love her? if yes, trust your own judgement and go for her.
if u're afraid that she'll divorce u after getting PR and demanding $$$, then sign a pre-nuptial agreement.
else, she just get a PR (which govt will not approve in every cases) which dun cost u anything.
i do know some China gals who r sincerely married to their s'porean husbands.

hope to hear good news from u next time.
:)

[sadfa]

i do feel very guilty after reading the post...

well,i earn 4.5k a mth..but i only tell them i'm a despatch rider earning 1.2k and not rich...sometimes when they call me out,i dont feel like going out....i gave excuse like no money....they say they will pay..sometimes they push $50 to me...other times...they pay for the hotel....of cuz i rejected thier money as i know they do not earn money easily...but twice i let the lady pay for the hotel... and one more thing i feel most guilty is this coming valentines...one of them is flying over to spend the day with me...knowing she do not have much money left....i asked her how she got the money to fly here....she told me it was from the savings....but i later found out she went to borrow from loan shark in china and didn't tell me....when i confronted her, she still insist it was her savings....now i also dun know what to do....should i pay her back? or is it one of her tricks?if so,why didn't she ask me money to fly over...perharps becuz i keep telling her i don't earn much...so she didn;t ask for it? i'm confused....any advices,bros?

bro,

your story too good to be true. u member so short time n post so little can tell such stories?

they believe u despatch rider? despatch rider can cheong nightclub? u think they never hear all the cock n bull stories in nightclub?

they pay so u can fuck them?

now they flying to see u? visa like candy so easy get 1 meh? anyway they earn alot, dun need to borro from ah long to fly down or buy visa.

not say i want to say, but reading these stories ... ... haiiizzzzz.

anyway i havent zap u hor. dont blame me yet.

[Knife]

Hi Bro,

I do experince wif a taiwanese singer a few years back and their tactic is very very simple. Below are the following procedures:

1. Buy branded clothing for you
2. Buy you makan at rest
3. Give you good free sex
4. Tell you that she love you plenty plenty but later......

1. Tell you to marry her and help her to apply for PR
2. This time you buy her more branded clothing which in term cost more $
3. She gets tired easily cos she feels bore over here so less sex
4. She still tell you she loves you plenty plenty but for more money money.

A word of cautious from me to you is play wif your eye open and pocket shut.
Time will tell if she is truthful to you and all the best to you.

[Randi_Candi]

bro,

your story too good to be true. u member so short time n post so little can tell such stories?

they believe u despatch rider? despatch rider can cheong nightclub? u think they never hear all the cock n bull stories in nightclub?

There are lurkas in this forum who seldom post and there r reborns who do not want to be id for their own reasons........
He was giving a story to let the gals know that he is not a high salary guy tats why he claims to be a despatch rider
Y can't despatch rider cheong? My storeman earns less than 1.5k/mth, yet he cheongs Orchard ktvs and HCs more than me......simple reason he has other incomes to support

now they flying to see u? visa like candy so easy get 1 meh? anyway they earn alot, dun need to borro from ah long to fly down or buy visa.

not say i want to say, but reading these stories ... ...
There are arseholes among cheongsters, yet there are also not too bad gals who are not out to fleece man
Alot of time to them they are also just here to make money with out any emotions.....but if along the way they meet some1 nice to them and able to support them, they do not mind

I do not doubt his 'so-called' story, there is a possibility that its true

To the thread starter, I agreed with brudda simimabochap.
Pay the dues, u feel gulity? at least its betta than u had been scammed by them. There are others in who r screaming kena conned
If its a transaction, its a transaction.....u have done ur part, no qualms about it

[UnderGround]

If you treat the student one better not much risk will involve......like one of the bro mention......let's say after six months pay dues to lessen ur guilt. And for the ktv one....think you better be extra careful.....all the way so far from china to Singapore.......sure got motives on their minds.....either $$$$$ or PR status.....and of course time will certainly Tell the Truth. Careful not to get burn later plus....another thing....time involved too much heart will also get burn (emotionally). Nobody's heart is made of Steel.

[Wolfiexx1]

some brothers have doubts over what i say....i have no reason to lie and waste my time typing down so many words...what do i gain? i only hope to seek some advice since the guys here are so much more experience...just hoping to draw some advice and have a clearer mind...

u can see..i seldom post messages...i am a quiet person by nature and i do not like to seek any type of attention....i only think it would be good to to talk things out rather than keep to myself....

i'm just an average looking guy( some girls say i cute,some shun me..i don't know).... quiet...and maybe i connect to people better when communicating about matters of the heart....

about the girl borrowing from loan shark...i had verified with my cousin working in guanzhou...and i had personally called the loan shark...althougt it might be a scam, but this is what happened appraently.. she borrowed just enough for the air ticket....what arouses my suspicion is becuz when she told me she was coming over...i asked her wherei the money coming from...she said was from a friend....two days later.she said was from her savings....i asked my cousin to check it out with her cousin....and she told him about loan thingy....asked for the contact and called the loan shark....told me she borrowed about 2500rmb....as her the point on how come she can come over so easily....without visa problems....she is a student here and still have a valid visa till fed23...only her course ended two weeks ago and she rejected the extension course....

when i'm with her...i was very happy...we did alot of romantic things together like what they do in the movies....talk the night away in marina south facing the sea....fell alseep together inside the car....ta bao food from kfc and pinic behind the indoor stadium....the thrill of sneaking into my house when my mum and dad is asleep in the other room....playing basketball and table tennis together....driving along ecp and stopping at a good spot for smoke...going up to genting highland for the amusement park and the great and passionate sex we had....

i know i'm really bad for cheating her....what i'm going to tell might lead me in being flame...but i don't care....

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....the truth infront of me is...i cannot be with them indefinately....if they really love me and willing to do so much for me....they are doing all for nothing....i know i am very bad...but i don;t know why to tell her....she just seems very nice and fragile....i don;t want her to fly here happily and go back broken hearted....and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....

[doxyca]

Agreed with bro Knife and Valkyan, DONT get emotionally involved!!! My experience with a PRC singer was real fucked up and to think back now, I should be lot wiser to fuck her and pay her off!

Hope you can heed the advices of some of the BROS here!

[tokkon1]

some brothers have doubts over what i say....i have no reason to lie and waste my time typing down so many words...

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....the truth infront of me is...i cannot be with them indefinately....if they really love me and willing to do so much for me....they are doing all for nothing....i know i am very bad...but i don;t know why to tell her....she just seems very nice and fragile....i don;t want her to fly here happily and go back broken hearted....and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....

My dear friend, you better wake up now before too late. Getting married at end of the year and still unsure what to do with this PRC GF. You are going to ruin 3 lives, yours and your future wife's and this PRC GF.

Tell her the truth that there is no good ending for either one of you. Tell her you are goin to get married soon and this relationship cannot go on. Give her enuf money to pay off the loan shark and say sayonara to her. Put her out of your mind.

Avert this impending tragedy while you still can.

[thaivisitor]

just hoping to draw some advice and have a clearer mind...

about the girl borrowing from loan shark...i had verified with my cousin working in guanzhou...and i had personally called the loan shark...althougt it might be a scam, but this is what happened appraently.. she borrowed just enough for the air ticket....what arouses my suspicion is becuz when she told me she was coming over...i asked her wherei the money coming from...she said was from a friend....two days later.she said was from her savings....i asked my cousin to check it out with her cousin....and she told him about loan thingy....asked for the contact and called the loan shark....told me she borrowed about 2500rmb....as her the point on how come she can come over so easily....without visa problems....she is a student here and still have a valid visa till fed23...only her course ended two weeks ago and she rejected the extension course....

i know i'm really bad for cheating her....what i'm going to tell might lead me in being flame...but i don't care....

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....the truth infront of me is...i cannot be with them indefinately....if they really love me and willing to do so much for me....they are doing all for nothing....i know i am very bad...but i don;t know why to tell her....she just seems very nice and fragile....i don;t want her to fly here happily and go back broken hearted....and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....
Bro forget about the flaming part, they can't really "hurt" you.

But what exactly is your problem? You already "know" what you want, so what is stopping you from doing it.

Whether she's true to you or not doesn't matter. You said it yourself, that YOU are the one cheating her, etc, etc ...and you don't want her to fly over happily and go back broken hearted.

So why don't you just call her and tell her you're going to get married at the end of the year, estimated how much you "owe" her, send her the money, game over and get on with your life.

I do not understand what kind of advice you hope to seek here, especially if you're mature enough to be getting married at year's end.

[ianchew]

ya man bro .... "Chang Tong Bu Ru Duan Tong" ..... let her go .... to be fair to her & to your future wife ...

[forex]

honestly your story a bit hard to believe but hey, some things hard to believe but true.

guilty? marry her/them lah or provide for them for the rest of their lives.

[GLHunter]

some brothers have doubts over what i say....i have no reason to lie and waste my time typing down so many words...what do i gain? i only hope to seek some advice since the guys here are so much more experience...just hoping to draw some advice and have a clearer mind...

u can see..i seldom post messages...i am a quiet person by nature and i do not like to seek any type of attention....i only think it would be good to to talk things out rather than keep to myself....

i'm just an average looking guy( some girls say i cute,some shun me..i don't know).... quiet...and maybe i connect to people better when communicating about matters of the heart....

about the girl borrowing from loan shark...i had verified with my cousin working in guanzhou...and i had personally called the loan shark...althougt it might be a scam, but this is what happened appraently.. she borrowed just enough for the air ticket....what arouses my suspicion is becuz when she told me she was coming over...i asked her wherei the money coming from...she said was from a friend....two days later.she said was from her savings....i asked my cousin to check it out with her cousin....and she told him about loan thingy....asked for the contact and called the loan shark....told me she borrowed about 2500rmb....as her the point on how come she can come over so easily....without visa problems....she is a student here and still have a valid visa till fed23...only her course ended two weeks ago and she rejected the extension course....

when i'm with her...i was very happy...we did alot of romantic things together like what they do in the movies....talk the night away in marina south facing the sea....fell alseep together inside the car....ta bao food from kfc and pinic behind the indoor stadium....the thrill of sneaking into my house when my mum and dad is asleep in the other room....playing basketball and table tennis together....driving along ecp and stopping at a good spot for smoke...going up to genting highland for the amusement park and the great and passionate sex we had....

i know i'm really bad for cheating her....what i'm going to tell might lead me in being flame...but i don't care....

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....the truth infront of me is...i cannot be with them indefinately....if they really love me and willing to do so much for me....they are doing all for nothing....i know i am very bad...but i don;t know why to tell her....she just seems very nice and fragile....i don;t want her to fly here happily and go back broken hearted....and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....

bRO.. I think u r a veri lucky man.. but u know she is juz a passby in ur life
so u gotta to move on. u r goin to marry ur gf n u r not prepare to give her up for the china gf. u r already considerin pay her veri cents that u feel that u owe her. tats shows it. so u gotta make the painful decision to end tis relationship as u shld have more or less expect tis sort of thing when u started. any indecisiveness will coz more pain & ur potential wife might find
out eventually.
i think u can tell her u r goin to middle east(or somewhere far far away) to
set up biz wif ur frd. i m sure she is not tat head over heels for u to follow u
there. so i foresee a sad breakup (bros.. give her benefit of doubt lah) then
u help her settle the loan, give a token of ur appreciation for the happiness she had given to u all tis while(if u ve e mean or lobang then help her get PR as well lor, Well.. if there is ani means other than marryin her)
I think that will conpensate her more or less in a way. juz my humble opinion.

[thaivisitor]

bRO.. I think u r a veri lucky man.. but u know she is juz a passby in ur life
so u gotta to move on. u r goin to marry ur gf n u r not prepare to give her up for the china gf. u r already considerin pay her veri cents that u feel that u owe her. tats shows it. so u gotta make the painful decision to end tis relationship as u shld have more or less expect tis sort of thing when u started. any indecisiveness will coz more pain & ur potential wife might find
out eventually.
i think u can tell her u r goin to middle east(or somewhere far far away) to
set up biz wif ur frd. i m sure she is not tat head over heels for u to follow u
there. so i foresee a sad breakup (bros.. give her benefit of doubt lah) then
u help her settle the loan, give a token of ur appreciation for the happiness she had given to u all tis while(if u ve e mean or lobang then help her get PR as well lor, Well.. if there is ani means other than marryin her)
I think that will conpensate her more or less in a way. juz my humble opinion.
all your adivses are sound except those in bold. no point bluffing. just tell the truth. Truth hurts, but what to do? It is meant for the better.

[forex]

some brothers have doubts over what i say.......we did alot of romantic things together like what they do in the movies...i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....

i say, you are really a lucky guy, 2 prc girls dying to see, be with you, you had 20 over fucks with cat40 girls..i thot you wrote that in GL forum, and you are getting married to a girl who you have bee with 8 years..WOW!

[Wolfiexx1]

i say, you are really a lucky guy, 2 prc girls dying to see, be with you, you had 20 over fucks with cat40 girls..i thot you wrote that in GL forum, and you are getting married to a girl who you have bee with 8 years..WOW!


i said i beem to house40 to have a look at ayumi in excess of 20over times...but never manage to see how she look like....i stop fucking around in geyland after i ord from the army two yrs ago

[xianxee]

All I can say is I pity your future wife.....

[banana]

bro Wolfiexx1,

glad u share ur story. lot of advices for u already.

here's another suggestion, how about let me take over? :)

do keep us update.

take care!

[jeronimo]

NG Wofiexx1,

In the paradoxical world of cheonging, you will never know the truth and lies in all your encounters.
If you are plagued by guilt, just do everything the commercial sex way.
All of the encounters are just a pay, played and forgotten unless there are plus factors for RTFs

Now you are feeling guilty because the fly is caught in your web
Once you are the fly entangled in the web of deceit spun by other spiders, how would you be feeling?

Do not do unto others, what you dread to befall you
Cheers

[tittyhawk]

NG Wofiexx1,

In the paradoxical world of cheonging, you will never know the truth and lies in all your encounters.
If you are plagued by guilt, just do everything the commercial sex way.
All of the encounters are just a pay, played and forgotten unless there are plus factors for RTFs

Now you are feeling guilty because the fly is caught in your web
Once you are the fly entangled in the web of deceit spun by other spiders, how would you be feeling?

Do not do unto others, what you dread to befall you
Cheers

Bro, u r really one of a kind...a few bros can as cheem as u...my hat off liao n salute..

[banana]

Bro, u r really one of a kind...a few bros can as cheem as u...my hat off liao n salute..

i salute bro jeronimo too.

[nonsense]

pay back what u've owned them...then u won't feel guilty...simple as that...settle everything in a short n neat manner...

[SilviaS13]

i m the kind that wont cheat on gf when i m attached. but you seem to seek thrill in this kind of thing. gf of 8 yrs and you still go fuck around. like xian said earlier, i pity your gf but thats just me. i know a few people that have wife and still go around fucking. maybe next time i will too since i step into the commercial world of sex liao.

as for her stories of loanshark and all, and your mentioning of all the gf things you do with her, it is all said and done. i believe totally in what you said,but having said that, i must tell you to let it go all behind you and tell the prc one to fuck off,pay her debt for her so she can carry on with her life and not waste her time investing in you. i once talked to this ktv girl who is a student here and through the talks, i find that she really not interested in money for now but looking for emotional bonding. it may be her way of "put long line,hook big fish" but in the end it is inevitable this will come up. prc also human,also have needs,also crave for normal life.if having a bf going kfc go pinic go sports go do all the gf things is what they looking for,give it to them only if you can. but you have a gf you getting married to and you feeling guilty now, so ask yourself, do you want to marry your present gf or break up with her and risk being with this prc who might divorce you once she gets her pr status? i will personally stop all this cheating and come upfront with the prc and pay her her just dues.

[nob_odee]

some brothers have doubts over what i say....i have no reason to lie and waste my time typing down so many words...what do i gain? i only hope to seek some advice since the guys here are so much more experience...just hoping to draw some advice and have a clearer mind...

u can see..i seldom post messages...i am a quiet person by nature and i do not like to seek any type of attention....i only think it would be good to to talk things out rather than keep to myself....

i'm just an average looking guy( some girls say i cute,some shun me..i don't know).... quiet...and maybe i connect to people better when communicating about matters of the heart....

about the girl borrowing from loan shark...i had verified with my cousin working in guanzhou...and i had personally called the loan shark...althougt it might be a scam, but this is what happened appraently.. she borrowed just enough for the air ticket....what arouses my suspicion is becuz when she told me she was coming over...i asked her wherei the money coming from...she said was from a friend....two days later.she said was from her savings....i asked my cousin to check it out with her cousin....and she told him about loan thingy....asked for the contact and called the loan shark....told me she borrowed about 2500rmb....as her the point on how come she can come over so easily....without visa problems....she is a student here and still have a valid visa till fed23...only her course ended two weeks ago and she rejected the extension course....

when i'm with her...i was very happy...we did alot of romantic things together like what they do in the movies....talk the night away in marina south facing the sea....fell alseep together inside the car....ta bao food from kfc and pinic behind the indoor stadium....the thrill of sneaking into my house when my mum and dad is asleep in the other room....playing basketball and table tennis together....driving along ecp and stopping at a good spot for smoke...going up to genting highland for the amusement park and the great and passionate sex we had....

i know i'm really bad for cheating her....what i'm going to tell might lead me in being flame...but i don't care....

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....the truth infront of me is...i cannot be with them indefinately....if they really love me and willing to do so much for me....they are doing all for nothing....i know i am very bad...but i don;t know why to tell her....she just seems very nice and fragile....i don;t want her to fly here happily and go back broken hearted....and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....


Though I do not often write, I am compelled in this case, because it seems crystal clear.

Treat others the way you would want others to treat you.

I am not sure if you are feeling guilty to 1) your girlfriend for cheating, or 2) to the two girls you have led on, or 3) both, but one thing is clear:

You ought to pay them what you owe. Here is how I look at it:

1. Few thousand dollars mean a lot more to them than to you.
2. If she is conning you, you've lost few thousand dollars, but hopefully, learned something from the experience. Besides, while you can't put price on love, you would have had to pay this amount and more, anyways, for the companionships that she provided you.
3. If she is telling the truth... you are about to ruin another person's life. You can't put price tag on someone's life or emotion. For your conscience's sake, clear her of her debts and give her a headstart in her life! Just paying her debt will not be enough in this case.

My final two questions - you request truth and honesty from these girls (whether they are PRC, WL, or whatever) - have you provided them with the same level of honesty that you would expect from them?

Also, what if the roles were reversed? i.e., If you were the girl, how would you want the guy (you) to handle the situation?

Good luck...

[sadfa]

There are lurkas in this forum who seldom post and there r reborns who do not want to be id for their own reasons........
He was giving a story to let the gals know that he is not a high salary guy tats why he claims to be a despatch rider
Y can't despatch rider cheong? My storeman earns less than 1.5k/mth, yet he cheongs Orchard ktvs and HCs more than me......simple reason he has other incomes to support

I do not doubt his 'so-called' story, there is a possibility that its true



bro,

not jealous or what, but when things r too good to be true, its prob not true.

not 1 but 2 charbor fall under his influence. if he go any further, he might as well say they pay him to suck his 12 inch lanjiao n call him everyday so he can fuck them n they will pay him.

[KingEros]

i tell ya this, u can wait and see, after she spent V day here wif ya, when she went back, she will call ya and cry and said she gonna chased by the loan shark , and want a large sum, then if everything is like what i predicted, u can know its true, if after 6 months or so, she still did not ask money from ya, then u can repay her this small amount wah, what s the hurry???
my 2 cents worth
Most valuable 2 cents' worth ... :D

[sadfa]

honestly your story a bit hard to believe but hey, some things hard to believe but true.

guilty? marry her/them lah or provide for them for the rest of their lives.

yah boy.

somemore loan shark in china so helpful. call them n they will answer u. maybe loan shark got website, i can borro money on line.

[felinelust]

the exact same thing happened to me once bro wolfie.

from your last post, it seems to me that you are confused who you want to be with. if this is the case, decide properly who and what you want in your life and whether it's worth it.

if it's the prc gal you do not want, just tell her the truth. it will hurt but it's only for the short term. pay her back the money if you can afford it but she might not accept it if she is really in love with you.

if that's the case, if you trust your cousin's connections and really worry about the gal suffering under the loanshark, pay the loanshark 2500rmb directly thru your cousin. 2500rmb is about S$500.

[KingEros]

i am getting married at the end of this yr to my gf of 8yrs....and that is why i feel so very guilty about the whole thing....
Yeah, better sort out the PRC gals before they jeopardise your true love.

and if she is true to me....i don;t mind the finiancial penalty of it....i'll be willing to pay back every cent...from the fucks i've recieve to the air ticket....
Think it's really way too late for finding out whether she's actually true to you throughout ... my contantion is that you've already allowed her "covert" access into your place, so what price is it to you IF she starts visiting your parents & create havoc?? Whether your parents believe you or her is not even important ... of more concern is that this piece of unwanted linen may be washed right in front of your wife-to-be.

My 2 cents' worth is to pay her off & tell her to stop dreaming about a future with you ... your nightmare will be IF she was fishing for a bigger fish in the first place, which means you've just given her the golden opportunity to "blackmail" you for the rest of your married life.
Think about it ... ;)

[Randi_Candi]

bro,

not jealous or what, but when things r too good to be true, its prob not true.

not 1 but 2 charbor fall under his influence. if he go any further, he might as well say they pay him to suck his 12 inch lanjiao n call him everyday so he can fuck them n they will pay him.
Haha.....I know wat u mean
If its too goot 2 b true, its most probably not true
Anyway, I hv seen some bruddas here who claims more than 2 in the palm
How they do it? I m baffled too

But I will not 1 2 end up in a I Feel guilty mode :D

[sadfa]

Haha.....I know wat u mean
If its too goot 2 b true, its most probably not true
Anyway, I hv seen some bruddas here who claims more than 2 in the palm
How they do it? I m baffled too

But I will not 1 2 end up in a I Feel guilty mode :D

bro, 2 or 3 in the hand is not difficult or hard to believe.
but the way his story goes is a bit hard for me to believe.

[K9696]

i said i beem to house40 to have a look at ayumi in excess of 20over times...but never manage to see how she look like....i stop fucking around in geyland after i ord from the army two yrs ago

Bro..

Well written FRs.. what I like to said.. like god said.. who dun commit Sins?? stand out please... "if you dun commit sins then you can stone me" in the bible of John.... so brother u got to move on and confess your sin to Jesus.. you need to repent and Jesus will forgive u and accept u and love u again...

Moreover you will be getting married soon.. so control yourself.. dun toy around your feeling with her...

Cheers.. God Bless u.. :)

[Randi_Candi]

bro, 2 or 3 in the hand is not difficult or hard to believe.
but the way his story goes is a bit hard for me to believe.
Haha.... tat stories can be quite hard to believe and all hv the rite 2 choose 2 believe or disbelieve
But I hv heard of such incidents from some close cheong kakis and tats y I do not doubt tat there r gals who would do tat
S 4 the details, I dun care lar :D

[Wolfiexx1]

thanks bros for the advice...i think i have a clear mind of what i am going to do...all of you seem to point at paying her off and confessing to her...i think that is what i am going to do...all you you can't be wrong together....

i met up with her on sunday at the airport...she seem so cheery and happy to meet me...seeing her once again, i feel somewhat elated....went to watch constantine at beach rd in the evening...and then had dinner....when she is talking to me while eating...ever so adorably...i can really feel my heart drowning and feel like slapping myself...i wasn't paying attention to what she says...thoughts like ' how am i going to tell her' keep popping in my head....i don't know....she seems so fragile....

anyway...since she already took all the trouble flying over here...i think i'll make the stay a happy one for her....no point making her all heart broken here in a foreign land...i mean,who can she turn to right? at least back home she has her cousins and friends.....

i think i probably pay her about 2k...one k for the air ticket...one k for her...this has been a very emotional and costly lesson for me......i really don't know what to do at times.....

i hope other bros doing the same thing or anout to do the same thing can learn a lesson or two here....don't think getting free fuck is a good deal...sometimes,when your heartstrings are tug....u end up paying more..we,humans are in need of love....play the game too much,surely will get burnt like me....maybe some of u reading might not understand....thinking i'm a lucky guy or liar talking some cock and bull stories.... i can tell you, it doesn't feel good at all...breaking people's heart with betrayal...esp the ones you love...

once again...thanks for the advice...

[kazuru]

True that most PRC goes for your money, but there are some will pay small money to gain the bigger price that is "YOU".

[Ice2005]

i think i probably pay her about 2k...one k for the air ticket...one k for her...this has been a very emotional and costly lesson for me......i really don't know what to do at times.....


Well done bros. You are indeed a grown up man. At least if she is real to fall for you, she will love you more. If you are out for only local girls, then watch out.

Good luck.......... :)

[tokkon1]

thanks bros for the advice...i think i have a clear mind of what i am going to do...all of you seem to point at paying her off and confessing to her...i think that is what i am going to do...all you you can't be wrong together....

once again...thanks for the advice...

I am happy to hear that you are going to give her the money (2k) and then tell her the truth. Suggest you go one step further and cut all ties with her. Change your HP number as well. From your prev posts, you come across as a rather sentimental person and that may be your eventual downfall provided you hardened your will and commitment.

What if your PRC gf calls you again in the near future and tells you she can't forget you, can't sleep, can't think, can't eat.... and she may as well die without you.... WUd you go back to her.?

Only you yourself knows the answer but I suspect that if she got a way to contact you...this will NOT be the end.

So bro Wolfiexx1.... Be a bastard today and a happier man tomorrow. :)

[SilviaS13]

Err Bros Silvia.......do I know you or otherwise???? Welcome to the world of FL. :confused:

no i do not think you know me. haha, you have a wife and you doing what i said huh heh. anyway, thanks for the welcome.

good to see wolfie has set his mind on what to do. good luck with everything,keep us posted on how it goes.

[K9696]

[QUOTE=Wolfiexx1]thanks bros for the advice...i think i have a clear mind of what i am going to do...all of you seem to point at paying her off and confessing to her...i think that is what i am going to do...all you you can't be wrong together....


Bro...

God Bless U... indeed u have made the right decision... Good luck to you..
God loves u............

[banana]

Bro..

Well written FRs.. what I like to said.. like god said.. who dun commit Sins?? stand out please... "if you dun commit sins then you can stone me" in the bible of John.... so brother u got to move on and confess your sin to Jesus.. you need to repent and Jesus will forgive u and accept u and love u again...

Moreover you will be getting married soon.. so control yourself.. dun toy around your feeling with her...

Cheers.. God Bless u.. :)

...and everybody say... AMEN!

[banana]

thanks bros for the advice...i think i have a clear mind of what i am going to do...all of you seem to point at paying her off and confessing to her...i think that is what i am going to do...all you you can't be wrong together....

once again...thanks for the advice...

keep us update bro. learn a lot from ur case study. lot of lessons here to be learned.

[shiokmc]

wa.. u are oNe lucKy guy ..............



i suggest u juz take initiatiVe to pay occassionally :) hope it will alleviate ur guiLt

cheers

[banana]

wa.. u are oNe lucKy guy ..............

i suggest u juz take initiatiVe to pay occassionally :) hope it will alleviate ur guiLt

cheers

i think one time payment and put a fullstop to it is better.

[K9696]

i think one time payment and put a fullstop to it is better.

Yes... agreed..... God bless.......AMEN...