The truth about bao-ing

[BronzeGod]

Hi guys,

I don't know about you but everytime I hear about some girl getting bao-d or going back suddenly, I always wonder why.

Often, I find it hard to believe that some of these girls actually get "bao-d" as there seem to be many other hotties out there that did not find a "bao-er".

But seriously, I do wonder why anyone would want to pay $50k or $100k or I even heard of SGD$1 million to bao a whore from Geylang.

First of all, lookswise, only maybe 1 out of 300 girls in Geylang can even make me consider chucking $50 k away to bao her, and that's considering if $50k is something I earn in 3 months of less.

Second of all, why would anyone bao a whore that got screwed by so many fellas - Singaporeans, Malaysians, China men, some Indians and Filipino, and the odd Ang Mo here and there, I mean those really chio ones get screwed about 7 to 11 times a day. In a month, taking away period leave, she got screwed more than 200 times and could be more than 100 different guys.

And it seems some houses, the girls keep getting bao-d, so are there that many guys in Singapore who go down Geylang and keep wanting to bao these girls?

I feel something does not add up to some of these stories, but i could be wrong.

So guys what do you think of this bao-ing thing? Anyone with the inside story on bao-ing:
- how often does it happen (eg how many percent of girls get bao-d)
- what is the price range for different types of girls
- how does the process work or start in the first place
- who are these bao-ers, what's their profile
- what happens to girls after they are bao-d
- does the fee have a time limit, eg. bao for a certain number of years?
- what does the bao-er benefit if the girl is back in China and not here, since the bao-er is a geylang chiongster and probably in sg most of the time?
- any famous confirm cases of bao-ing, what were the details?

I am of the opinion that some of these stories may be fabricated to hide something more sinister that may have happened to the girl and caused her tour of duty to be cut short.

What do you guys think? Is "bao-ing" used as a "cover story" for girls who have to go back suddenly for reasons that may affect the house's business, if disclosed? If so, what exactly is "bao-ing" used to cover?

Share your thoughts and insights please.

[KCisBad]

Hi Bronze bro..
we meet again!

Hmmm 1st of all i dont think its common.

Its just a convenient answer, either we think it ourselves or their frens say it or the OKT say it. As the truth may hurt their business or its just too troublesome to explain the whole story.

This are just my opinions, but if statistics from some board of government or something like that shows that it is really real that singaporeans are bao-ing them, i also can belief, because singapore statistics also show a sharp rise in millionaires.

Last time it used to be a rare sight to see lamborghini and ferrari and maserati but now almost 1 in 3 times i hit the road i see 1 of them. Or soemtimes a string of them parading down some road.


And think about it, if u are rich, and u get KCed, u sure bao them.
Think back of a time where u got KCed or almost.
Everyone or i should say most of us at one time or another feel like "saving" them.

So if u had the money, in those times u would have done so too..

So in this context as well, its a good example of have money have problems.
Easier to get KCed.

No money dont need to think, wont get and cannot get KCed until go and Bao them.

But without statistics, my opinion is that there are many other reasons behind a girl leaving and OKT or their frens may not tell you for whatever reason.
1. They may have earned enough and want to go back, each girl have their own goals and plans in life. Not all want to max their time while their young as WL in GL.
2. Some may have sudden family matters and need to go back, cannot work here. So maybe go back and work in their own land but same industry.
3. Husband strike lottery, can go back enjoy life.
4. Husband found a good enough job to support her.
5. Got disease from some Idiot inconsiderate bros here. lol. :D
6. Tired of this job. 1 girl actually told me back in 2010 that she tired of doing the same thing over and over again, so want to go back already.
7. Politics amoung other hse girls. 1 girl also told me that this happens between old and new girls.
8. Some of their rich relative found out back in their home land and wanted to help so bao her, may not be someone here that bao her. If you are rich and you found out your niece is a pros overseas, you will also help right..
9. ....



And on and on, some of the above are what i really hear from them, then again it could be lies as well. And some of the above are just my imagination. But anything is possible.

[sonksonk]

i dun believe those bao-ing stories. i tend to agree with waht kcisbad said, dat they earn enouf $$$ liao, or some of them cannot take it anymore and want out. i personally had f one fl2 like these b4. she told me she hated it, the job, and the next ting i know, she no more liao, the following week, after working a few months in sg.

and ya, why would anyone bao wl instead of other gers?
i duno, but could be ...super kc skills...and fate!

[unregistered_10]

This is going to be an interesting thread .
If a customer is close to the house mate of the so called WL who kena Baoed ,
Can ask the hse mate , she really kena Bao or just cock n bull story make up!
Her closes frend or house mates will know what happen?
They are the one's who really know , normally gals confide their secrets among themselves! My opinion only!!!!

[songsonglah]

Reading this topic, one girl come to my mind. Malaysian BMW.

I don't know if she's still operating in gl. But during those early days, it's almost impossible to get her from houses other than her base. And from fr posted, it's not hard to see that she always has multiple sessions from regulars. I never have the "good" fortune to try her. Always have to wait wait wait with no firm timing.

Ok, granted this is not the same as bao-ing. But it does show that with the right level of KC kungfu, it's not impossible that men will go for these girls whom the TS said have been fucked by X numbers of men.

[KCisBad]

This is going to be an interesting thread .
If a customer is close to the house mate of the so called WL who kena Baoed ,
Can ask the hse mate , she really kena Bao or just cock n bull story make up!
Her closes frend or house mates will know what happen?
They are the one's who really know , normally gals confide their secrets among themselves! My opinion only!!!!

Yup but the problem is whether the hse mate will leak it out to you.. :confused:

[Stressedboi]

Hi guys,

I don't know about you but everytime I hear about some girl getting bao-d or going back suddenly, I always wonder why.

Often, I find it hard to believe that some of these girls actually get "bao-d" as there seem to be many other hotties out there that did not find a "bao-er".

But seriously, I do wonder why anyone would want to pay $50k or $100k or I even heard of SGD$1 million to bao a whore from Geylang.

First of all, lookswise, only maybe 1 out of 300 girls in Geylang can even make me consider chucking $50 k away to bao her, and that's considering if $50k is something I earn in 3 months of less.

Second of all, why would anyone bao a whore that got screwed by so many fellas - Singaporeans, Malaysians, China men, some Indians and Filipino, and the odd Ang Mo here and there, I mean those really chio ones get screwed about 7 to 11 times a day. In a month, taking away period leave, she got screwed more than 200 times and could be more than 100 different guys.

And it seems some houses, the girls keep getting bao-d, so are there that many guys in Singapore who go down Geylang and keep wanting to bao these girls?

I feel something does not add up to some of these stories, but i could be wrong.

So guys what do you think of this bao-ing thing? Anyone with the inside story on bao-ing:
- how often does it happen (eg how many percent of girls get bao-d)
- what is the price range for different types of girls
- how does the process work or start in the first place
- who are these bao-ers, what's their profile
- what happens to girls after they are bao-d
- does the fee have a time limit, eg. bao for a certain number of years?
- what does the bao-er benefit if the girl is back in China and not here, since the bao-er is a geylang chiongster and probably in sg most of the time?
- any famous confirm cases of bao-ing, what were the details?

I am of the opinion that some of these stories may be fabricated to hide something more sinister that may have happened to the girl and caused her tour of duty to be cut short.

What do you guys think? Is "bao-ing" used as a "cover story" for girls who have to go back suddenly for reasons that may affect the house's business, if disclosed? If so, what exactly is "bao-ing" used to cover?

Share your thoughts and insights please.

Very interesting topic BG! I am glad you brought it up. I also feel KCisbad has quite a few good points about the validity of the news of girls being bao-ed. Sometimes the girls may have discipline problems as well and bao is just a convenient cover up story for the okt instead of having to explain to her regulars etc.

[pga69]

Baoing is true and happend with my own eye.

Recent case

2062 yoyo , she is a smart girl, she wanted to work for her rmb 1 million first before getting baoed( because According to her getting baoed has no guarantee as the guy might fall out). she succeded in her 16 months tour in getting the 1 million rmb and then there is this guy who drive a Maserati falling for her, bring her out for shopping with branded bag and the next thing he baoed her back to Shenzhen.

Then come 2062 again yuan yuan merely 2 months she found a generous guy. This guy has been her supporter every other day since her inaugaration in geylang. booked her for 6 hours whenever he called for her. next thing she say she is going back to china (but insider stories she Kenna baoed for 100k).

I also question myself why there are so stupid guys out there willing to spent the price of a golden toilet bowl and get a public toilet bowl. But maybe the public toilet certify cleaned and willing to do raw.

Or to the super Rich, 100k is just. Figure in the bank.

[KCisBad]

Baoing is true and happend with my own eye.

Recent case

2062 yoyo , she is a smart girl, she wanted to work for her rmb 1 million first before getting baoed( because According to her getting baoed has no guarantee as the guy might fall out). she succeded in her 16 months tour in getting the 1 million rmb and then there is this guy who drive a Maserati falling for her, bring her out for shopping with branded bag and the next thing he baoed her back to Shenzhen.

Then come 2062 again yuan yuan merely 2 months she found a generous guy. This guy has been her supporter every other day since her inaugaration in geylang. booked her for 6 hours whenever he called for her. next thing she say she is going back to china (but insider stories she Kenna baoed for 100k).

I also question myself why there are so stupid guys out there willing to spent the price of a golden toilet bowl and get a public toilet bowl. But maybe the public toilet certify cleaned and willing to do raw.

Or to the super Rich, 100k is just. Figure in the bank.


Hi bro, we are not saying that it doesnt happen, just that its not that rampant as it seems. =)

But nice toilet bowl illustrations. haha

[Mr_Oreh]

IMHO these bao-ed money maybe nothing to the riches & wl maybe ideal as mistress whereby they are trap back home after canceling permit so that they can't return sg to harass the riches family if fate turn bad for them.

[panad0l]

Baoing is true and happend with my own eye.

Recent case

2062 yoyo , she is a smart girl, she wanted to work for her rmb 1 million first before getting baoed( because According to her getting baoed has no guarantee as the guy might fall out). she succeded in her 16 months tour in getting the 1 million rmb and then there is this guy who drive a Maserati falling for her, bring her out for shopping with branded bag and the next thing he baoed her back to Shenzhen.
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Bro, just curious, did Yoyo get her rmb 1 million AND also got bao-ed on top of that? I agree, she is a very smart girl, and a very hard worker. Wish her all the best in Shenzhen.

[Nato17]

Then come 2062 again yuan yuan merely 2 months she found a generous guy. This guy has been her supporter every other day since her inaugaration in geylang. booked her for 6 hours whenever he called for her. next thing she say she is going back to china (but insider stories she Kenna baoed for 100k).

I also question myself why there are so stupid guys out there willing to spent the price of a golden toilet bowl and get a public toilet bowl. But maybe the public toilet certify cleaned and willing to do raw.

Or to the super Rich, 100k is just. Figure in the bank.


1 Million RMB is just another figure in the bank. Seriously, 200k used to be able to get a lot of things done earlier, but right now, 200k is just 1/3 of a peanut. 200K can be used up fast if you are young and do not know how to manage the money.

Here is some interesting facts.

1. The Malaysian WLs that were here upteen years ago, a few can be still found in Pertain Road.

2. These Malaysian WLs have had time to make that 1 Million SGD with less work simply because they have a longer time than the PRC WLs to make their 1 Million RMB.

3. However, a lot of the Malaysian WLs used up their cash simply because they thought that they could earn it back. However, they never got around to saving for the future.

4. By praising that the WLs are smart cookies, I beg to differ. In fact, I think they are dumb. But then you are looking at your dick's stand point, so I guess I can understand. :rolleyes:

5. Some guys can provide more than 200k a year to their WLs. Yes, it is a pricely sum, but still a lot of people are earning that right now. Money is worthless right now imho.

[pga69]

Bro, just curious, did Yoyo get her rmb 1 million AND also got bao-ed on top of that? I agree, she is a very smart girl, and a very hard worker. Wish her all the best in Shenzhen.

Yes she earned her rmb 1 million in 16 months (perhaps more). And on top of that she got baoed to go back on the 17 months, a early 30s rich guy (not old man).

Miss the day of yoyo

[Stimsia]

good luck to yoyo
hardworking lass
wish her all the best
yet to find one gal to match her stamina even late into the night
imagine the baoer whole day doing it with her with no drop in standard...estacy whole day long, all year long.. :D

yuan yuan
darn, the baoer leave alot bros out in ther cold...yet to try ...sob no kiss goodbye...it will alawya remain a msytery to me cos i saw one not bad looking girl in 1651...wonder if it was yuan yuan:confused:

[BronzeGod]

good luck to yoyo
hardworking lass
wish her all the best
yet to find one gal to match her stamina even late into the night
imagine the baoer whole day doing it with her with no drop in standard...estacy whole day long, all year long.. :D

yuan yuan
darn, the baoer leave alot bros out in ther cold...yet to try ...sob no kiss goodbye...it will alawya remain a msytery to me cos i saw one not bad looking girl in 1651...wonder if it was yuan yuan:confused:

You didn't miss much with yuan yuan bro. IMHO plain looks though she looks young but not as young looking or as pretty as say cong cong 2038.

Service wise is no better than cong cong 2038.

If I gave cong cong 2038, 7.5 for looks and 5.5 for service, yuan yuan would be 6.5 for looks and 5 for service.

Yuan yuan looks and service also lose to many syt angpais in geylang.

[panad0l]

good luck to yoyo
hardworking lass
wish her all the best
yet to find one gal to match her stamina even late into the night
imagine the baoer whole day doing it with her with no drop in standard...estacy whole day long, all year long.. :D

Wah, so many bros missing yoyo :)
Anybody keep in touch with her? Before leaving, she said she would stay with her best friend Jia Yi (ex 1637).

[pga69]

Wah, so many bros missing yoyo :)
Anybody keep in touch with her? Before leaving, she said she would stay with her best friend Jia Yi (ex 1637).

Of course missing her as she has the tightest hole. And her BJ is one of the best. Some brother call it the best vacuum machine of geylang. Now she is being baoed , don't think she want to keep in touch with anyone.

[rugalsc]

Hi guys,

I don't know about you but everytime I hear about some girl getting bao-d or going back suddenly, I always wonder why.

Often, I find it hard to believe that some of these girls actually get "bao-d" as there seem to be many other hotties out there that did not find a "bao-er".

I am of the opinion that some of these stories may be fabricated to hide something more sinister that may have happened to the girl and caused her tour of duty to be cut short.

What do you guys think? Is "bao-ing" used as a "cover story" for girls who have to go back suddenly for reasons that may affect the house's business, if disclosed? If so, what exactly is "bao-ing" used to cover?

Share your thoughts and insights please.

I only believe a girl got bao-ed from herself announcing to her customers during her final couple of months (or from her farewell SMS, gossips from other girls in the same house), or from other chiongsters.

If a girl suddenly disappeared and the OKT assured you that she got bao-ed. I am more inclined to guess that she got HIV and got sent back home by the AV police. The OKT don't want to cause panic to customers. This will drive uncomfortable nerves into some brothers here and I think I will get zapped in no time.

[Nato17]

I only believe a girl got bao-ed from herself announcing to her customers during her final couple of months (or from her farewell SMS, gossips from other girls in the same house), or from other chiongsters.

If a girl suddenly disappeared and the OKT assured you that she got bao-ed. I am more inclined to guess that she got HIV and got sent back home by the AV police. The OKT don't want to cause panic to customers. This will drive uncomfortable nerves into some brothers here and I think I will get zapped in no time.

I totally disagree with your analysis. I know of a few girls who disappeared suddenly and who were baoed. Let me put it to you this way. If I am a baoer, would I want my baoee to continue socializing with us scum of the earth still? Guess not correct. Hence, their sudden departure. Those that send out farewell SMSes tend to have problems instead of being departing on good terms. Rationale is that you would keep in contact with them in PRC.

[KCisBad]

I only believe a girl got bao-ed from herself announcing to her customers during her final couple of months (or from her farewell SMS, gossips from other girls in the same house), or from other chiongsters.

If a girl suddenly disappeared and the OKT assured you that she got bao-ed. I am more inclined to guess that she got HIV and got sent back home by the AV police. The OKT don't want to cause panic to customers. This will drive uncomfortable nerves into some brothers here and I think I will get zapped in no time.

Quite true. There's logic.
Why scared zapped? No offence in ur comments what..

[tikogeek]

I am newbie in the forum but I can shed some light on the topic... if you like what you read up my points....

the girl fresh off the boat normally, day 1 arrive/working in legal houses normally has about RMB 15,000/SGD 3000 in debt (they borrow money to pay the middleman RMB 10,000 in China to get a WL job in Geylang, RMB 5000 for the airfare to singapore, and the first month rental owed to the OKT of their respective houses)

[tikogeek]

SGD 3000 is not a lot of money to the cheongsters regular, but it's princely sum for those fresh off the boat girls, so they basically start work heavily indebted in their context... for those who have previously worked in China as WLs, they can basically can start work immediately, for the girls who have never done this before (yes there are those who were previously not in the trade coming over), they need a "break in" period about 2 weeks to a month, for the reality to sink in the interest is compounding on the debt they come over to singapore, they lan lan suck thumb have to start work...

[tikogeek]

the recent batches who arrived, quite a few dropped price from cat150 to cat80, the girs kpkb, they were expecting to do cat150 work but from I gathered from the OKTs the past 2 months, business is slow, they bleed money just sitting there not getting booked (economic contraction of the Singapore economy?)

so if you want to bao someone, get a girl fresh off the boat, a few weeks old in the country, reluctant to work, clear the what ever debt the girl owes back home, negotiate a settlement sum for the monthly maintenance back home

no hard and fast rule and fixed amount really depends on the girl you fancy

[trash55]

interesting thread.

i think there are basically two kinds of baoer that will makes the girl gives up her job and leaves this country.

one type of baoer who wants to own the girl to himself, is probably very rich, but may or may not want to marry the girl. not much love, just transaction.

another type of baoer is the type that fells in love with the girl. may or may not be rich, but the girl is willing to leave the country for him because scared hurt him.

[BronzeGod]

I only believe a girl got bao-ed from herself announcing to her customers during her final couple of months (or from her farewell SMS, gossips from other girls in the same house), or from other chiongsters.

If a girl suddenly disappeared and the OKT assured you that she got bao-ed. I am more inclined to guess that she got HIV and got sent back home by the AV police. The OKT don't want to cause panic to customers. This will drive uncomfortable nerves into some brothers here and I think I will get zapped in no time.

I was thinking the same with regard to girls who suddenly disappear. Any one can shed more light? Girls who suddenly have to leave, is it kena something?

[Garfoo]

I was thinking the same with regard to girls who suddenly disappear. Any one can shed more light? Girls who suddenly have to leave, is it kena something?

In another thread, there was this PRC WL from L1649 who was caught with sugar daddy and was sent back. In such a situation, just wondering if the Baoer just disappear and look for another Baoee or will continue their rendevour in China. Btw, anybody know who is that PRC WL? If not wrong, I think it is Lily because she suddenly disappeared. Used to $150 but downgrade to $80.

[Nato17]

I was thinking the same with regard to girls who suddenly disappear. Any one can shed more light? Girls who suddenly have to leave, is it kena something?

They kenna one thing. Kenna jia lat jia lat from BronzeGod for not telling him that she is leaving so suddenly. :rolleyes:

[BronzeGod]

They kenna one thing. Kenna jia lat jia lat from BronzeGod for not telling him that she is leaving so suddenly. :rolleyes:

Ay? Nah, none of my favorites ever went back suddenly without me knowing beforehand. Certainly no sudden cancelling of card.. I'd know at least a week beforehand at the latest so I can visit them a last time for a goodbye fuck.

[mav6299]

In another thread, there was this PRC WL from L1649 who was caught with sugar daddy and was sent back. In such a situation, just wondering if the Baoer just disappear and look for another Baoee or will continue their rendevour in China. Btw, anybody know who is that PRC WL? If not wrong, I think it is Lily because she suddenly disappeared. Used to $150 but downgrade to $80.

Lili should be still around,saw her around 2 weeks ago

[acid_rxz]

Baoing is true and happend with my own eye.

Recent case

2062 yoyo , she is a smart girl, she wanted to work for her rmb 1 million first before getting baoed( because According to her getting baoed has no guarantee as the guy might fall out). she succeded in her 16 months tour in getting the 1 million rmb and then there is this guy who drive a Maserati falling for her, bring her out for shopping with branded bag and the next thing he baoed her back to Shenzhen.

Then come 2062 again yuan yuan merely 2 months she found a generous guy. This guy has been her supporter every other day since her inaugaration in geylang. booked her for 6 hours whenever he called for her. next thing she say she is going back to china (but insider stories she Kenna baoed for 100k).

I also question myself why there are so stupid guys out there willing to spent the price of a golden toilet bowl and get a public toilet bowl. But maybe the public toilet certify cleaned and willing to do raw.

Or to the super Rich, 100k is just. Figure in the bank.

We can't say much about this as we are not the type of person earning that much to bao a gal haha, but some ppl also bao the gal & did not went to look for the gal in the end, Happy 2060 is one of them, guy gave 50K to bao her but did not went to xiamen to look for her don't know why is that so, maybe feels if he goes he might have to pay even more haha but happy instead of thanking the guy that gave her 50k to let her finish her tour of gl earlier blamed the bao king for deprieving her chances of earning money in gl whereas she is the one that spend the 50K plus her own hard earned money on doing plastic surgery jobs.

End of day i do feel we will only get sore if the gal that got baoed is out KC but to tink back if she can get baoed so easily then no point in Kcing rite.

[songsonglah]

These bao'ees, once they cancel their work cards here and return to hometown, can they come here again? Or, that's it?

[trash55]

I heard they can come back provided they get married to a local. The local have to go to ica to apply and must acknowledge that he knew she was a WL before agreeing to marry her.

Also heard those who wants to marry the ex wl, income tax must be gao gao then garmen won't disturb you.

[Allanooi]

I heard they can come back provided they get married to a local. The local have to go to ica to apply and must acknowledge that he knew she was a WL before agreeing to marry her.

Also heard those who wants to marry the ex wl, income tax must be gao gao then garmen won't disturb you.

This one so far not sure is true .... Ica won't guarantee that application will be successful ... Marry a foreigner wife yes ica require the sponsor income of certain amount and of higher income bracket you can sponsor wife PR if not like my friend married 8 years 2 boys wife still long term pass his income only $2.5k...

[tikogeek]

These bao'ees, once they cancel their work cards here and return to hometown, can they come here again? Or, that's it?

after 3 years, can come as tourist

[tikogeek]

Lili should be still around,saw her around 2 weeks ago

L16H15 also got a gal by name of Lili... downgrade from cat150 to cat 80
dunno if talking abt the same person, had supper with her before

[songsonglah]

after 3 years, can come as tourist

I see. That means their WL card for working here is a 1 time thingy only? Once these bao'ees give up their card, means they cannot apply to come here work as WL again?

[trash55]

I see. That means their WL card for working here is a 1 time thingy only? Once these bao'ees give up their card, means they cannot apply to come here work as WL again?

Yes one time only. That's why before they choose to give up their card, they have to consider all consequences. Also the reason why only $$$$ cam entice them to give up their card.

[tikogeek]

Yes one time only. That's why before they choose to give up their card, they have to consider all consequences. Also the reason why only $$$$ cam entice them to give up their card.

1 gal from L16H15, and another gal from L16H17 cancel card on Wed and left this morning, cos cannot make enough...

not kidding you

[rugalsc]

Baoing is true and happend with my own eye.

Recent case

Then come 2062 again yuan yuan merely 2 months she found a generous guy. This guy has been her supporter every other day since her inaugaration in geylang. booked her for 6 hours whenever he called for her. next thing she say she is going back to china (but insider stories she Kenna baoed for 100k).


As mentioned in my previous post @ http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=8010587&postcount=18, girls who are fishing for bao-ers or about on the verge to be bao-ed by a regular customer, will let other WLs and other customers know for better competition or simply boasting. Another symptom of a WL on the verge of being bao-ed is taking regular long leave (WHILE still working as a WL in Singapore, not deported out of Singapore YET!) to go shopping or having private time with the potential bao-er.

A WL doesn't just "suddenly disappear like magic", stopped working + left Singapore, and the OKT has to explain to you she got "bao-ed" while some WLs look nervous at you.

[nookzaa]

Bao in my experience means you pay for a new girl with credits yet to clear. The may have minimum "tai" to pay back. One the "tai" cleared then fee to earn. You bao means you clear the minimum, but minimum is after that they start make money. So if they let you bao means that "stop" work let you take care. Some let you take care until they go home. But they home may still work similar trade. Best you bao until she taken care of for life.
But will you care for a prostitute for life? Think then do.

[songsonglah]

Yes one time only. That's why before they choose to give up their card, they have to consider all consequences. Also the reason why only $$$$ cam entice them to give up their card.

Thanks for the explanation. Don't think I will ever reach that level of wealth or insanity to bao a gl girl though.

[tikogeek]

flying off this morning to see some girl that I send off last sunday to shanghai... wish me luck guys...

[Honestkeith]

I heard they can come back provided they get married to a local. The local have to go to ica to apply and must acknowledge that he knew she was a WL before agreeing to marry her.

Also heard those who wants to marry the ex wl, income tax must be gao gao then garmen won't disturb you.

Dear Bro

What I know is that if the WL cancelled her yellow card and return home, They would not be allowed to come back and work in Singapore again. They could come back on a tourist visa as a tourist. Some WLs are smart , they have double personality, meaning they buy another identity and make a passport with it and come work in GL. Once her tour of duty is completed or she got baoed she relinquished her WL identity and start afresh with her real identity without others knowing that she had done this trade before. I do hope this little information is helpful and Bros who have power could help to up me if you concur with my views here. I shall return favor when I have the power.
Cheers! Happy Bonking.
Warmest Regards
Honestkeith

[Stressedboi]

Dear Bro

What I know is that if the WL cancelled her yellow card and return home, They would not be allowed to come back and work in Singapore again. They could come back on a tourist visa as a tourist. Some WLs are smart , they have double personality, meaning they buy another identity and make a passport with it and come work in GL. Once her tour of duty is completed or she got baoed she relinquished her WL identity and start afresh with her real identity without others knowing that she had done this trade before. I do hope this little information is helpful and Bros who have power could help to up me if you concur with my views here. I shall return favor when I have the power.
Cheers! Happy Bonking.
Warmest Regards
Honestkeith

Thanks for the info bro. Also there is a age limit/range for WLs in Singapore right?

[Nato17]

Dear Bro

What I know is that if the WL cancelled her yellow card and return home, They would not be allowed to come back and work in Singapore again. They could come back on a tourist visa as a tourist. Some WLs are smart , they have double personality, meaning they buy another identity and make a passport with it and come work in GL. Once her tour of duty is completed or she got baoed she relinquished her WL identity and start afresh with her real identity without others knowing that she had done this trade before. I do hope this little information is helpful and Bros who have power could help to up me if you concur with my views here. I shall return favor when I have the power.
Cheers! Happy Bonking.
Warmest Regards
Honestkeith


Change identity like changing panties. :)

[BronzeGod]

Change identity like changing panties. :)

reminds me of some bros who like using clones to flame others but now in hiding. LOL :rolleyes:

[tca27]

last time i knew they could change their Ids once they change their passport and re-enter SG with a new ID but with the ICA upping their screening, I think for them to come in under a diff name ...... near impossible.

[Honestkeith]

Thanks for the info bro. Also there is a age limit/range for WLs in Singapore right?

Bro Stressedboi

You are absolutely right here, the max age the WLs can come to Singapore to work is pegged at 26, thus anyone thats above that age cannot be passed and be given a Yellow Card to work as a WL in Singapore. Btw the minimum age is set at age 21 thus we enjoy the WLs at about the prime age whereby most girls are ripe for the picking. Cheers!

Warmest Regards
Honestkeith

[KCisBad]

Bro Stressedboi

You are absolutely right here, the max age the WLs can come to Singapore to work is pegged at 26, thus anyone thats above that age cannot be passed and be given a Yellow Card to work as a WL in Singapore. Btw the minimum age is set at age 21 thus we enjoy the WLs at about the prime age whereby most girls are ripe for the picking. Cheers!

Warmest Regards
Honestkeith

Should be 18 hor.. hai..

Singapore everything also 21. That means we mature slower.

They think we asians cannot take responsibilities at 18.

Driving :
Singapore - 18
US - 16

Investing/trading :
Singapore - 21
Europe/US - 18

why we always must older than them..

[Stressedboi]

Bro Stressedboi

You are absolutely right here, the max age the WLs can come to Singapore to work is pegged at 26, thus anyone thats above that age cannot be passed and be given a Yellow Card to work as a WL in Singapore. Btw the minimum age is set at age 21 thus we enjoy the WLs at about the prime age whereby most girls are ripe for the picking. Cheers!

Warmest Regards
Honestkeith

Thanks for the clarification Honestkeith.

Strangely enough got zapped for the following comment in my earlier post "Thanks for the info bro. Also there is a age limit/range for WLs in Singapore right?" Not bothered, just thought it was strange :confused:

[KCisBad]

Thanks for the clarification Honestkeith.

Strangely enough got zapped for the following comment in my earlier post "Thanks for the info bro. Also there is a age limit/range for WLs in Singapore right?" Not bothered, just thought it was strange :confused:

welcome to the forum. :D
there are many wierd people here.. :eek:

[tikogeek]

flying off this morning to see some girl that I send off last sunday to shanghai... wish me luck guys...

back from the trip...

day1

didn't go shanghai but ended up in to Hong Kong...
she took 2hr 45 mins flight to Shenzhen and a bus to Luohu Hongkong customs (cos she got no HongKong/Macau entry permit)

I landed in HK at 5pm, take tour bus to hotel in kowloon, waited at the hotel lobby for 10 mins, she arrived after taking a cab from Wong Kok station

[tikogeek]

went to the char chan ting across the street for dinner, food was fantastic... free desert some more...

proceed off to "nu ren jie" to walk walk ... spotted cos play school girl uniform and french maid uniform at one of the stalls... at my suggestion, she bought 1 of each for use later... :D
after walking to end of street, took a cab back to the hotel... we showered and she put on the school girl uniform...

[KCisBad]

back from the trip...

day1

didn't go shanghai but ended up in to Hong Kong...
she took 2hr 45 mins flight to Shenzhen and a bus to Luohu Hongkong customs (cos she got no HongKong/Macau entry permit)

I landed in HK at 5pm, take tour bus to hotel in kowloon, waited at the hotel lobby for 10 mins, she arrived after taking a cab from Wong Kok station

how much u pay for her?

[tikogeek]

how much u pay for her?

not much so far...
she wanted $6k SGD to settle her RMB 20k debt and RMB 10k to take a short break...

working out a monthly allowance, yet to discuss

[Nato17]

not much so far...
she wanted $6k SGD to settle her RMB 20k debt and RMB 10k to take a short break...

working out a monthly allowance, yet to discuss

You got a bargain! 6K.
There are two possibilities.

If this girl is for real, then you got a steal.

Otherwise, the other possibility is that she has a number of carrot heads and hence able to go back on such a small sum.

Either way, wish you all the best.

[tikogeek]

You got a bargain! 6K.
There are two possibilities.

If this girl is for real, then you got a steal.

Otherwise, the other possibility is that she has a number of carrot heads and hence able to go back on such a small sum.

Either way, wish you all the best.

thanks Nato17
will enjoy it while it last... :D

another girl who left in late Sept, her asking price was $20k SGD, I didn't agree, guessed she found a higher bidder....

[KCisBad]

thanks Nato17
will enjoy it while it last... :D

another girl who left in late Sept, her asking price was $20k SGD, I didn't agree, guessed she found a higher bidder....

yup, good for you tiko.. :D

But it makes sense to go for many small fish than 1 big fish, becos big fish may never come.

So u never know if there are many others she consider Dariling as well. :confused:

But anyways, if u have the money, u are in the game! :D

[tikogeek]

yup, good for you tiko.. :D

But it makes sense to go for many small fish than 1 big fish, becos big fish may never come.

So u never know if there are many others she consider Dariling as well. :confused:

But anyways, if u have the money, u are in the game! :D

thanks for highlighting how the game is played...

[tikogeek]

many thanks to Nato17, sharing his personal experience with me... will take note of the tell tale signs

[Nato17]

yup, good for you tiko.. :D

But it makes sense to go for many small fish than 1 big fish, becos big fish may never come.

So u never know if there are many others she consider Dariling as well. :confused:

But anyways, if u have the money, u are in the game! :D

Kekeke. Big Fish! Reminds me of texas poker. Fish = sucker. Guess you are donking chips at their laps right?

Anyway, guess I need to learn to read the "board".

[KCisBad]

Kekeke. Big Fish! Reminds me of texas poker. Fish = sucker. Guess you are donking chips at their laps right?

Anyway, guess I need to learn to read the "board".

hahaha i love the thrill of poker, but i can play well, am a bad lier! haha

I try telling this to my boss he dont belief. lol. :D

[tikogeek]

hahaha i love the thrill of poker, but i can play well, am a bad lier! haha

I try telling this to my boss he dont belief. lol. :D

you bao char boh before?

[Nato17]

hahaha i love the thrill of poker, but i can play well, am a bad lier! haha

I try telling this to my boss he dont belief. lol. :D

Sure or not! Poker does not require too much lying, the variance will catch up with u. Hence, don't let me catch you on a naked bluff. You would lose your trousers. :o

[KCisBad]

Sure or not! Poker does not require too much lying, the variance will catch up with u. Hence, don't let me catch you on a naked bluff. You would lose your trousers. :o

ya thats why.

But poker is about lier isnt it.
And about psychology.
Reading other players behaviour.

Because its very rare for u to get the best cards.
U have to base on how u play ur cards which is the psychology part already.

So how u bluff is important isnt it?

[Nato17]

ya thats why.

But poker is about lier isnt it.
And about psychology.
Reading other players behaviour.

Because its very rare for u to get the best cards.
U have to base on how u play ur cards which is the psychology part already.

So how u bluff is important isnt it?

Nope. Poker is NOT about bluffing at all. I don't know about how other people play. But I rather go in with AA or KK than bluff on a pot. You can bluff so many times before someone calls you on the pot and then people will see your hole cards. If your cards are crap and have no reason to go into a pot, then you have been exposed. You have made your image suffer. Poker is like life.

[Honestkeith]

Change identity like changing panties. :)

Bros

Seems that some of this WLs already engaged by buying 2 identities, so that they won't be stopped from working in Spore next time maybe as a part time 6 mont professional pass or other such as social visit passes etc. They are thought this ruse from experienced WLs who have done likewise before they came by and return to China. I know at least a few WLs who plying their trade here with this arrangements. Hope it s good reading for everyone here.
Warm Regards.
Honestkeith
Anyone can up me to reached the magical 100 mark. Thanks!

[KCisBad]

Nope. Poker is NOT about bluffing at all. I don't know about how other people play. But I rather go in with AA or KK than bluff on a pot. You can bluff so many times before someone calls you on the pot and then people will see your hole cards. If your cards are crap and have no reason to go into a pot, then you have been exposed. You have made your image suffer. Poker is like life.

hmmm okay make sense..

ok we shall keep back to the topic b4 we get zap. haha

[Nato17]

Bros

Seems that some of this WLs already engaged by buying 2 identities, so that they won't be stopped from working in Spore next time maybe as a part time 6 mont professional pass or other such as social visit passes etc. They are thought this ruse from experienced WLs who have done likewise before they came by and return to China. I know at least a few WLs who plying their trade here with this arrangements. Hope it s good reading for everyone here.
Warm Regards.
Honestkeith
Anyone can up me to reached the magical 100 mark. Thanks!

I am not really sure I agree with this. WLs have been finger print when they arrive. They can work here legally for 2 years, ok, 23 months, so why risk jail when they have 2 years almost to make their cash, versus going back and then coming here to risk getting jail.

I only know of one case which happen. I haven't seen others, as the same batch of people who visit GL visit KTVs also. Don't you agree? We are just all subsets of cheongsters.

[rugalsc]

This thread has some enlighting posts

[lamdeng]

I am newbie in the forum but I can shed some light on the topic... if you like what you read up my points....

the girl fresh off the boat normally, day 1 arrive/working in legal houses normally has about RMB 15,000/SGD 3000 in debt (they borrow money to pay the middleman RMB 10,000 in China to get a WL job in Geylang, RMB 5000 for the airfare to singapore, and the first month rental owed to the OKT of their respective houses)

Every agent sell 100 gals a year can bao a gal a year. If there are 10,000 of them there will be 100 millionares WL agent driving porche in GL.

If business bad and only 10% make it and there will be still 10 Ferreari every year.

My point is if gal come here for money the same reason they dun come here. There is 2side of story, they can achieve the million dollar dream or the dream is false a.k.a kena conn by middlemen and no business better dun waste time and go to other place to try like NY, HK, SZ, Tokyo or even Seoul.

[timmyh]

TS, there are rich guys out there who are good with money and bad with women. How many guys do you need to screw in GL to make 1mil RMB?

[Nato17]

TS, there are rich guys out there who are good with money and bad with women. How many guys do you need to screw in GL to make 1mil RMB?

Tell me about it. But it worse to not be able to make money and still be bad with women. :)

They would need 200k SGD. @ $72 bucks per pop. I would say 2778. Let's say commando, then @ 200 per pop, still need 1k clients. Women have it easier than guys. Open leg can make money. Guys damn hard.

[lamdeng]

Guys still can, be a gigolo but one has to be good looker lah! Non good looker, just open your ass-hole for bi-sexual, gay or tranny to ass-jam you lor! Tio boh?? :p

true that day i got to know those WL in DG,SZ also want to fetish with gigolo at 10x rate to gals and WL pay .... 1 day pay to 1 day pay.

1 gal serve 10 guys get $5000 RMB and she later pay 1 gigolo $5000 RMB a day