Tips on picking up gals online thru Chat Apps...

[SammyNewbie]

I SammyNewbie, have been on chat apps for a few days, besides doing my homework and preparing for interviews and honestly, I've gotten quite fed up by some of the comments I read on the profiles of some ladies.

Lady one : I do not want to 81/Fragrance or Orgasmic Squirting with you!

Lady two : Why does Skout allow pictures that are obscene to be sent through?

Lady three : I'm not interested in sex! Go away!

What the hell are some of you people thinking when you go there?

Please use your logical mind and think it through.

Has flashing your penis pic in a forum or chatroom ever got you laid even on a sex forum? Would you unzip your pants in front of a female colleague to show her you are interested in her sexually?

When you see an attractive lady on the street when you walk up to her, do you tell her that sex is the first thing on your mind?(unless she's a prostitute)

Yet logically, though you know the answer to both the questions, Why are you still doing it online? IT DOES NOT WORK!

I feel part of the reason why it's hard to pick up ladies now is not only my social ineptness, but is also the result of some of the men behaving badly online thinking they can get away with it. You are screwing up not only your own chances of scoring, but other people's chances as well.

Well if you've gotten pissed because you are one of the seniors who does this, please go ahead and zap me and leave this thread, but if you decide that what I say makes some sense and decided that you want to figure out what you should do then read on.

First off, you need a mindset change. These ladies are not prostitutes/freelancers. You can't just go up to them and go 'How much? or wanna go hotel with me?'. Let's look at this from a ladies perspective a little. The first thing that goes through her mind is that she doesn't know you. If she brings you home, what happens if you're a stalker and after you have sex and now that you got the sex you just want it and keep pestering her. What happens if you are a serial killer and chops her into nine parts after u did the deed and dispose of her? What happens when she gives you her number and you decide to be a twerp and exchange it here on SBF for useless points and other girls? And the list goes on...

My point is, that if you want to bed a woman, you must get her to at least feel comfortable around you enough to trust you and not run away the moment you meet her. That's going to take some time, and you're going to have to be PATIENT. You'll need to talk to her at least for a little while before she even gets comfortable enough to actually tell you more stuff about her life, and finally even to meet you face to face. Depending on the woman and your skill level, the time this takes might vary.

Ok, I'm just going to go through and share a little bit about how I go about this... so read on.

[SammyNewbie]

Your Profile

The first thing you do is of course set up your profile.

Put a good pic of yourself there(The pic tends to be a verification that you're not lying about your appearance, and gives them a face to put to your name that you aren't captain cook or some other ugly hideous thing) (This only applies if you are single, married bros, it's against my value set to cheat, so you'll need advice elsewhere). You can actually put several here. Put some of your face, some of your body(no nudes please guys), some that show what you like to do, eg. Playing with your guitar, hanging out at a cafe and drinking coffee. You can even funny pics or memorable quotes here that tell them about yourself. Be honest about your age, and height, weight and size. They are going to meet you eventually, so if you lied about this, it will be obvious.

Next up, the about yourself section. Gonna have to keep this short since we are on a mobile app, and most people won't read a paragraph of text like what I wrote earlier. Put in something that defines you here. No “I have a horses' dick... I can last 3 hours in bed... wanna fuck” or such rubbish. Something maybe like 'music.taichi.movies.' or 'I'm here to get in your pants... I mean be your friend ahh! Dun hit me >.<” ', something that shows you're harmless and that they can come closer to you. Or meaningful life quotes. Things that grab their attention and leave a general good impression.

Use the status panel too. Put something there about what's on your mind besides the sex. Like 'Can't wait for Iron Man 3 to come out!'. A topic that can help them open a conversation with you if you share a common interest.

[SammyNewbie]

The Opening

After this profile is set up, Time to look for the ladies. When you look at a lady that is attractive, DO NOT WINK AT HER OR JUST SAY HI. Look through the Lady's live feed and her profile.That will tell you her interests and how she's feeling. Let's say if you notice for example that she likes to eat ice-cream in the lastest feed, you could

1) tell her your favourite ice-cream flavours and brands and ask what hers are
2) tell her about a good ice-cream cafe and ask if she's tried it
3) ask her where she likes to go eat her ice-cream.

This technique is called 'opening' in seduction. You start a convo topic that make them curious or feel comfortable around you so you can size them up. The thing about this is that in face to face meet ups, personalized openers are hard to do, but in online media chats like this, it is EXTREMELY EASY because a page and all the feeds can tell you so much about the individual. If she likes a certain song by a certain band, and you know something about that song, tell her over chat and asks if she knows.

I'm telling you that this works because at first, I mostly just said hi to the girls and nothing happened, but when I started doing this, I noticed almost all the girls checked out my profile within the first 30 seconds when I did it. If they do that, you are off to a good start. It means you're actually getting their attention rather than being someone they'll ignore or block immediately.

Do not use cheesy pick up lines or canned material. Pretty girls will have LOADS of guys hitting on them, so if you use canned material, they'd probably have ALREADY HEARD IT BEFORE. Since we have an advantage of having more info, put in abit more effort so you'd get noticed.

If she goes 'Ask me', 'Ask me', 'Ask me', on her profile, that's when the problem starts. That's akin to kind of picking up a girl at the bar where you know nothing about her interests, and that's challenging cause in this case, there will be more guys saying hi than you.

Look for interesting things in her profile pics before resorting to pick-up lines. Maybe she's carrying a guitar, or a dog, or whatever. Ask her about them. If she has a funny nick that is probably not her real name, see if you can come up with something witty to pry her name out of her. If her name is 'R' for example, talk about 'Warm Bodies' ;)

Ok, if they just check out your profile and don't reply, don't despair. Most gals won't if you aren't their type and share a common interest. Just look at your profile again and see what might have put them off. If you find something, change it (I really got to change my about me section after what some of you did), if you do not, just keep looking. Even if you already talked to all the girls you like DO NOT SPAM THEM AGAIN. Relax, go on other chat programs, do your math homework, carry on with your job/search. You have a life outside this thing. Eventually you'll find one that likes you and will reply. I know cause one did.

Once in awhile, check back in again and take a look and see if there are new gals or status updates. When there are, craft another opener and try again.

[SammyNewbie]

The art of conversation

I happen to be not so good at this, but I'll share what I can

Ok, so a woman replies to your message and continues to talk to you.

I know some of you are getting very excited, after all, it's been a very very long time and a lot of spamming and talking to dead walls, but relax. Reply slowly. As usual do not spam or rush. If a convo reply comes up, wait about a minute or two and think about what to say before you reply.

Talk about superficial stuff first, maybe if it was music that she liked, talk about your own preferences or compare the music with other types. If it was about a movie, just talk about scenes you thought were good or why u liked or did not like it. Slowly move it around different things like maybe current affairs, food and occasionally ask personal questions in between once in awhile like what she works as, what she likes to do before moving back

Don't rush this. If she's closed and wants to go off cause she's busy, just say goodbye and give her space. Then when it's morning, say good morning, when it's time to knock off, drop a small message and talk to see if she's interested to chat, just ask her how her day was... etc.

It's important that you don't over message and intrude too much into her life at this point. After all, you are new, and she still doesn't trust you and you are in the process of knowing each other. Rushing this could make you come across as needy and aggressive. When gals see this, they tend to run. The same way we would run if someone we didn't know started running towards us.

After awhile when you all finally chat like friends and there's a major event like a movie or musical coming to town, that's when you pop the question and ask her out. Or maybe she asks you out cause she wants to meet you :)

And while you're chatting with her, keep talking to other women and looking for them. This might sound like two-timing, but it helps you relax. Cause you know you won't only have one woman, and it isn't over cause she doesn't like you.

This is SammyNewbie signing off, sharing his limited experiences with online chatting. I hope this will help make some of you better people, and also, if any senior forum members have other tips to contribute, do make a post and reply in this thread.

[JVKN80]

interesting thread..pls continue

[Skyboy1988]

Wow! Pro giving "speech" seminer..:D

[SammyNewbie]

I where got pro? I just giving some tips so the bros here will get better. Chatting gals online now is hard. They damn defensive. Anyway if I really that pro, I got girlfriend liao lor XD.

[gotnotime]

Ahh I've got quite a fair bit of such experiences, maybe I should add on/ continue for you? Don't wanna steal your thunder though :P

[SammyNewbie]

Hey gotnotime,

You know I'm not that type of a person. ;)

If you want to share anything at all, you're very much welcome to do so. This thread is kind of an open thread for discussing techniques or sharing pointers. I myself, am also learning being new to this.

Also, I'd like to thank the two anonymous bros that up'ed me and recognized my contribution. It makes me feel some of the stuff I do here is worth it :)

Also, the bro that went with me to GL tonight, please call me and PM me ASAP when you see this. I didn't get your call cause my phone died on me. I've been trying to call you to ensure your safety as soon as I got home, but there's been no response. I'm worried about you ,man.

[gotnotime]

Alright, here are some ice-breakers for bros who really have no idea how to break ice and start talking.

One can start by asking about their profile picture, eg, hey where did you take this photo? It looks great.

Or the very classic hokkien line, jiak ba buey? (Of course, in english, have you had breakfast/lunch/dinner?)

The art of conversation is an intricate albeit easy one for those who are outgoing, although I'd admit I'm very bad at dialects.

On the other hand, most ladies like compliments. It's can get pretty addictive with all that sperm in your head, but remember to doll it out in moderation. :D

[Sunkirby]

Thanks for the tips

[behtahanalready]

All these are something to think and learn. I'm staying to learn more..

[Hungry4Pussy]

Awesome thread brother! Keep it going.

[SammyNewbie]

Thanks bros. Actually some of the stuff you can read online or through books. The only reason why I don't teach the rest is because I have not tried it. I don't believe in teaching things that I cannot guarantee work. =)

But some of the stuff you read online, do take with a pinch of salt and think about why they work before trying.

[gotnotime]

Thanks bros. Actually some of the stuff you can read online or through books. The only reason why I don't teach the rest is because I have not tried it. I don't believe in teaching things that I cannot guarantee work. =)

But some of the stuff you read online, do take with a pinch of salt and think about why they work before trying.

Gotta agree with that, it takes confidence and guts to do it man. But the main idea, imo, is to be outstanding and different from the rest :cool:

[darkdark]

Thanks for the share :cool:

[SammyNewbie]

Inner Game Part 1: (Self-confidence and Respect)

This is a sensitive topic and I will try to be as gentle as I can.

Have you ever been failing to hit on girls or hitting on them to hear bros tell you that 'You just need to
be more confident of yourself?'. How many of you think it's bullshit? Well it is.

Not completely. But the bros that told you this simply weren't specific to what you need to do.

What the hell is self-confidence or respect? I've thought about this for a very long time. The answer to this is actually simple. It's self acceptance.

That is quite simply, accepting yourself. Flaws, good points, physical appearance whatever.

The interesting thing about this I want to say is that it actually comes in a circle. You must accept yourself enough to approach people so they can accept you. People accepting you gives you courage to further approach other people knowing that you won't be rejected. Arguing about which should come first is kind of pointless, and being more of a pragmatic person, and I'm more about fixing the problem.

Regarding the first one, I can understand why bros will feel emo when I say self-confidence comes from within. I've had my fair share of such talks with many of my guy friends. I'm just going to give a little example of this.

We all know that 1+1= 2 for example. If anyone were to come to us and say 1+1=3 or even if a large number of people say it to us. We will not accept it because we know 1+1 is 2. Sometimes self-acceptance is like that. We know for a fact that we are good at what we do, and we don't need external validation.

The reasons why a lot of bros cannot understand this is because certain things are often subjected to opinion. For example, I'm more of a tea person rather than a coffee person. I like the smell of the leaves and lemon grass and flavours it actually gives. I on the other hand hate Coffee. I don't like the taste or the smell of it after trying. I avoid ordering it even when I am at Starbucks writing. Does that mean just because I don't order coffee, it means that it is a bad drink?

OF COURSE NOT!

Plenty of people drink coffee even when I don't. It's the same with people, sometimes people like you, and sometimes people don't. It's important to learn to say 'Hey, if they don't like the way I am, that's just too bad. It's their loss for not wanting to know me'. I myself am guilty of not practicing this often enough. I guess we all want to be liked by people for our qualities but all I can say about this is people have lots of reasons for not liking you. Personality clashes, jealousy that you got the balls to confess your feelings to a girl in a lecture theatre, whatever. So the first rule of self-confidence/acceptance is:

WALK AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO TREAT YOU BAD

I see most of you aren't convinced. Ok, let's say people don't like you and you know the reason why they don't. Just ask yourself this question : Does that flaw about me hurt other people or myself? Or is it just because they don't understand me, the same way we like to make fun of Indian accents?

Think about the time where you walked away from someone who treated you bad. How'd it feel? Sure you were sad. But honestly didn't that feel kinda good that you didn't have to live up to some of that rubbish they were putting on you?Didn't you say you should do it more often?

That's different from being delusional/blind to your flaws. Those are the people that sing on american idol and think they are great but they are not even in tune. Self-acceptance is knowing and accepting who you are good and bad. Gonna have to practice what I preach more often now after saying this XD

[SammyNewbie]

Inner Game (Part 2) : Remind yourselves of the things you are good at

Ok.Some of you might be in more toxic environments, and you might not be able to find the people that can accept you as you are or be able to move from these environments for various reasons. Another way to find self-confidence is to do things you like or are good at doing.

As much as we don't like to admit it because it sounds arrogant, but hey, doing something that we like that not everyone can do make us feel special? ;)

I know there were times when I was feeling emo, and I just went to my room, closed the door and just played the guitar and sang. I mean, I wasn't a rock star or an extremely great musician, but the fact that the playing was in the correct rhythm and I sang in tune made me feel a sense of accomplishment.

All of us have things we are good at. Even listening to someone or being helpful to people is a strength. Ok, I'm just going to make you do a little exercise for a self-confidence boost. List out ten good things about yourself. Doesn't have to well awesome stuff. Maybe you could just be good at Math or playing a game. Do you feel better after doing this?

Ok, now tape this on your wall or somewhere discreet if you have toxic family members. I'm not going to ask you to recite this and look at it everyday. It gets stale if you do. Just read it whenever you feel down and you need to remind yourself of who you are, especially when people take the things you can do for granted.

The final things I wish to say about doing the things you like or starting things that you like.

Firstly,perservere. No one starts off great at something. When I started the guitar and youtube playing, for the first week, I couldn't even switch chords properly or play them in proper sound. For the second week, I was playing mostly correctly and but the moment I opened my mouth to sing I lost the next chord and the strumming rhythm. It was only by the third week that I managed to actually play and sing 70% of the song right. And it was only one song actually. I had prior practice of playing a guitar many many years back that I failed too. I don't suggest that you keep ploughing it when you are sick of it. When you're tired, just take a short break from it of maybe two to three days or as long as you want until you feel like resuming it. But in the intial stage when you are learning the thing, avoid overly long breaks because you tend to forget everything.

Secondly, keep it secret. Some people like myself tend to have a problem with this because we are so attention seeking at times and also like to share new things we learnt with everyone being extroverts. But the world is a cruel place. People tend to laugh at new people even when they are practicing. There was a point of time where I just went to a park to play my guitar at night because it was late. Unfortunately there were people there. The irony of it is, those people talk so much about how you ain't good at something when they can't even do or dare try it themselves. If you really must share, do it selectively with people you know will be supportive.

[SammyNewbie]

Part 3 : Look for people that affirm you and like you the way you are.

I cannot stress this enough. We all need friends and good people around us to support us.

What to do to find and meet like minded people. There are many ways to do this. Hobby groups are one of them. Maybe you play cards for example. Or guitar, or programming. Whatever. You could just pick up a new hobby you're interested in and get to know people from there.

As with this group, rule 1 still applies. There are some not so desirable people in these groups, even when most of them are mostly nice. Well this is a little bit I learned about people. If they mostly give you the vibe that they want you to go away and appear stand-offish, just leave them alone, but if they mostly don't mind you sitting around and just stay quiet, they could just take awhile to warm up to you.

Also if u meet people as noisy as me, they're probably the friendliest bunch. But well, you gotta be able to take them. Hahaha... I sometimes everything about sex one. My friends also roll their eyes abit lah. Sometimes really can go on non stop one. >.<”.

Since there's not really much to say about this (or maybe I ain't good at this friendship thing beyond being helpful and chatty), I actually am gonna talk about the dark side of self-acceptance abit. This involves putting others down to make you feel confident about yourself, hurting people, and kinda playing a certain political game through a certain number of emotional manipulation techniques. Let's say I've had a lot to think about lately, and searching for a job and having time to reflect has opened up some of my old wounds.

I'm actually thinking about taking this path, just for the sake of certain amount of revenge I'd like to have.This is mentioned simply for 'academic purposes' to warn you and in case you are driven to desperation and would like to actually take it whether for self defence or vengeance. At this point I will not teach these techniques at all because as of now, they are against my value set.

I've been trying to do it, but mostly when I'm driven to the threshold, I dun do very much bad stuff beyond ask a girl out on the mrt, take it out on trash bins, or even eat two tubs of Ben and Jerry's. Lately, all I did after being pushed was go on Skout more proactively. I just am not aligned to the dark side of the Force. :o

Anyway, that's all I have to say on this topic of self-confidence and Inner Game.

[xdra]

This is quite enlightening. Please do share more...

[quadH]

this is a good thread here. keep it up TS! How do I up your points btw? :o

[quadH]

this is a good thread here. keep it up TS! How do I up your points btw? :o

[SammyNewbie]

Inner Game Continued : Affirmations

When I wrote the Inner Game section, I felt that while that they were purely generic guidelines on how to remove some of the bros problems that were toxic to self-acceptance and add some that would slowly cultivate that 'self-confidence' , but at the same time I felt it wasn't complete and applicable to the whole topic of picking up chicks online or in real life. Furthermore, I felt more could have been done to address self-acceptance issues beyond what I suggested.

So when a bro came to my thread and told me 'Please continue', I thought a little bit about the things I've read about Inner Game. I remember reading the story of 'The Game'. The main protagonist known as Style was doing all the techniques he was taught right, the girls were warming up to him and he was getting numbers and they liked him. But for some reason, he didn't dare follow up with them and go for a second date even though he knew he stood a good chance. There were moments where the girls were giving out cues that they were ready to be kissed, but he just didn't dare follow through.

He was wondering why, and he was taken to another Pick Up Artist. He was told that while he executed all the moves correctly to act like an 'Alpha' male, he was still afraid inside due to a belief system that was ingrained in him that he would 'never get loved' due to his past experiences.

He needed to rewrite that belief system in his mind and replace it with a new set of 'affirmations' that would overwrite those wrong beliefs. In the story, he listened to motivational tapes containing positive messages for three weeks and even while he was sleeping and had hypnosis performed on him while the Guru whispered these affirmations in his ears.

I'm not going to be so dramatic or extreme but this process might hurt abit, so you have been warned.

Instead, I'm going to have you take a sheet of paper and draw a line across it.

On the left side, write down all the things and experiences that make you feel that you are not worthy to be loved or cause your low self-esteem.

I'll give some concrete examples:

I was bullied by some bigger kids when I was young. I tried fighting back but it was useless.

I had a girl I liked a lot. I wrote a note to confess to her, she passed it to all her friends. They laughed at me.

Just go through your life memories slowly, and when you see something particularly painful that might have caused it. Write it down.

Ok now that you are done with this list. Now go through each memory and on the right side, write a positive affirmation as a counter to the incident. In the bully case, you could write something like 'I was a brave person to stand up to those bullies'. In the rejection case, write something like 'I am a person worthy of being loved'. Once you are done with that list, Cut that piece in half, just throw away and tear up the left side or burn it (preferably shredded or destroyed so no one can reconstruct it) and as for the right side, tape it somewhere discreet. Whenever you are going to a hostile place or you need to do your Game, read it slowly to yourself(even just reading the words aloud in your head works) and then proceed on to your game. When you come out rejected or from a bad day, go back and read the list again.

[SammyNewbie]

Inner Game Continued : Goals and Aspirations

Now that I've settled the mindset problem, let's move on to the practical side of things. Like I said before, this Inner Game thing is a circle. Believing in yourself causes you to do things and when you succeed, it strengthens that belief.

Right now, I'm going to ask you to set a goal for yourself. It could be something like : I want to sleep with a woman without having to pay her money for sex or I want to ask to ask an online girl out on a date and have her say yes.Or Even, I want a damn hot girl to be talking to me only although everyone is fighting for her attention.

I'd actually suggest giving yourself a reasonable time frame for this. Eg. I want to do it in a month. The reason for this time frame is that it actually puts some pressure on you to actually do something because you have an objective and a time to measure that objective on. Depends on the individual. If you feel the time frame clamps you up and paralyzes you instead, fuck this. But I know it worked for me.

Next, if the objective is too big(we know we cannot immediately sleep with a woman), break it down into small steps

1) I need to get 3-5 girls to talk to me
2) I need to ask 2 of them out on a few dates
3) I need to 'go further' eg. Kissing,light petting on these dates
4) I need to bring a woman on a seduction date and then sleep with her when the timing is right

These can of course be broken down further into more micro-steps if more planning is needed. And then at the time frame, do an evaluation. Did you meet your objective? Even if you didn't was there an improvement?

As usual, I, SammyNewbie do not teach stuff I myself do not practice, so this is my own field report.

I was chatting up girls while doing my own revision for my studies on Skout for the past few weeks. I had a few girls reply my chats, but mostly reception was lukewarm. When I kept probing them to ask them out, they seemed to just tactically decline. I was getting discouraged.

Some of them even blocked me because I was getting a little persistent and losing patience. I was feeling low. It was then when I checked up the forums to find a bro had asked me to write more. I asked myself.

What The Fuck was I doing giving advice to bros about Inner Game if it didn't work? I decided that there must be something I missed out. That was when I actually remembered the affirmations part of the Inner Game. I didn't even make a list. I just told myself 'I'm worthy to be loved' because I knew I had rejection issues and let that fact sink in for awhile.

I then realised it was Labour day, and hey, if women were doing nothing today, they might be feeling lonely. I told myself I wanted to try to sleep with one tonight. I began being very strategic, targetting ladies near my area, and of a certain age demographic that I knew would be interested. I didn't just message every woman I saw. She still had to meet my minimal standards.

Soon I got two women that were chatting with me. I'm gonna be honest that they were not smoking hot Singaporeans. They were maids. Both of them had previously ignored me before or ran away, but perhaps it was today and they wanted to meet someone. One of them was direct and asked me if my purpose was to go hotel with her.

I was taken aback, but I confessed that yes, it was my intention. I asked her if she wanted to meet up since we were nearby. She said no. Normally I would have been crushed, but that Inner Game affirmation stayed in my head :'I'm worthy to be loved'. I didn't give up and I played it cool when I heard that statement sound out.

I just teased abit that we would be meeting in a crowded place and it would be safe and all. At first she didn't really reply, so I did my own thing and I chatted up another one. To my surprise, she began to talk to me and we made some further small talk and she agreed to go out with me when I asked her out to just eat and possibly see a movie.

Again she asks “go hotel?”

I tell her now with confidence “No need, let's just meet each other. If the feeling's right, we'll go”

We talk abit further on about other small topics and suddenly the meet and what we want to do or where we want to go pops up once more.

Again she asks “go hotel?”

I say “You ask so many times! Ok! I get the hint! You just don't back out last minute!”

She doesn't reject me or say no. I even dirty talked her when she was about to go sleep. There's the story of the other maid that has agreed to meet me as well, but I think it's getting really lengthy at this point. Also, if you didn't notice, I didn't complete my objective of getting a woman to sleep with me by the deadline. But it certainly was an improvement. I now have two dates, no doubt with maids. And I have tried to chat up maids to meet me but been rejected before! XD

Some of you might still be skeptical and ask me, SammyNewbie, you teaching us Inner Game to psyche us up. Aren't you teaching us to be delusional like power_tan? Just talk big that girls are looking at him and hope some stupid girl will fall into the trap? Just act like all the gals will love you and then they will just flock to you like this?

No! That's not it!

I'll give you another illustration to show you what I mean.

I play the guitar and sing a certain song 100% perfectly when I'm doing it in the comfort of my own room. The moment I come in front of an audience I get nervous and then I stumble over the lyrics, stiffen up and play the wrong chords. I now only do it 60% correctly. All Inner Game is doing if I apply it is removing the anxiety caused by the wrong belief system that everyone will laugh at me.

You are still yourself. By using Inner Game all you are doing is being your best self, and showcasing the best parts of you so the girl can make a decision based on that. It doesn't mean that every girl will fall head over heels with you just because you apply Inner Game, but it does improve your chances, because your best self is certainly more attractive.

[BMW69]

Hehe I managed to get the contacts of about 3 girls from these apps. The furthest I've gone is asking the girl out. she agreed on sex but I pulled out at the last minute because she's only 13. I would have gone ahead if I wasn't using my real number and name.

[SammyNewbie]

I'm glad to hear your success story. Hehe if you got any tips to share please do in this thread. ;). I have to start studying. OMG! One day before the exam XD.

Also, it would be nice to actually share the gal's side of the game. I do find that some of them are kinda playing with me in the online chat. So besides that, it would actually be nice to know when they are playing this. Unfortunately, my experience with this is rather limited, but I think it is actually good to see some of this so newer and greener bros can be aware and also learn.

Once more, I'm considering the dark side to deal with certain types of women. The best option as I said before with Inner Game was probably to walk away. The question is whether you want to try out knowing her and bonking her for revenge. Some evil devil bros understand what I mean when they know such women have to be dealt with in a certain way. :p

[gotnotime]

Hehe I managed to get the contacts of about 3 girls from these apps. The furthest I've gone is asking the girl out. she agreed on sex but I pulled out at the last minute because she's only 13. I would have gone ahead if I wasn't using my real number and name.

It'd seem like I've got more success story to share, inclusive of getting contact, asking the girl out, but I didn't wanna proceed further haha

[Skyboy1988]

It'd seem like I've got more success story to share, inclusive of getting contact, asking the girl out, but I didn't wanna proceed further haha

Lol.. Individual preference maybe.. As i'm not into chatting with girls i don't know online.. Chatting up in person is easier for me.. :D

[SammyNewbie]

Alpha tricks : Negs and Cocky Funny

How many of you have been following the latest Skout feeds and happenings?

I noticed quite a few trolls around on it recently. All they've been actually doing is going to profiles of women and being insulting when a woman says something for attention or has a motive for saying it. Skout women are also starting to follow in the ways of our Samstresses when it comes to men harassing them for sex: public shaming and sexposure.

This prompted me to write a little bit on the topic of some 'dark arts' because I think the whole concept of Negging or Cocky Funny is misunderstood or poorly executed .

'Negatives' or Negs for short, are simply subtle negative comments you make about a pretty lady, whether about her appearance or character, to knock her self-esteem or social status down a notch, so you can be on the same level as her and then carry out a conversation. For Hokkien Pai people that don't jiat kantang, it's the same as Suan Seow.

Sometimes, this is necessary because pretty women are used to the attention and think they are lesser gods and can do no wrong. A Neg reminds them they are still human and gives that small message that says 'Don't be a bitch ;)'.

There are some important things about Negs and Cocky Funny that bros must understand

1) They should not be excessively used or repeated. In other words, you do not keep saying bad stuff about a girl to put her down. The idea is to make her realise she's human and step off her high horse, not make her so pissed at you that she wants to punch your face for insulting her.

2) Negs should be subtle rather than completely direct. This gives a girl enough space to step down gracefully while giving her the message. A good example of this is actually in flirting and Double Entrandes . Rather than being directly naughty, you say stuff like 'I think you're a really open person... really open' or 'Mmm..I think you're a really sweet person inside'

3) Depending on the girl you're talking to, they have different thresholds of what they may find funny. In general, it's always better to start with the subtle side of Negging before slowly going on to more direct stuff.

This technique is known as 'micro-escalation'. Like before you go for a kiss, you do slow steps and continue to bigger steps before you move in.

You first touch a girl's hand. No resistance, get a little feely and stroke her hand abit. Still Ok? Put your arm around her shoulder. She seems alright with it. Now look into her eyes and lean abit closer. Ok, she doesn't move away. Now you can go for it.

This is a useful principle that applies throughout all the things that you will do. Whether it's negging, chatting whatever. It's something that needs practise. Sometimes it's just good to write down the concrete steps of how to slowly do this until you get used to it.

I'll give you a couple of examples on how to be cocky funny and to Neg a lady. Recently when I was checking out a couple of profiles and I noticed a rather attractive girl. She was taking these photos in a house or Bungalow in the bathroom, living room balcony and posing like she was a model. After abit of evaluation, I decided that she was a slightly haughty maid that was living in a high class place that thought she was a princess from all the attention she was getting. Deciding that this was a woman that needed a little reminder that she was still a human and ought to be nice to people I started off with a little naughty neg to her.

“Are you the mistress or the maid of this place?”

I get a reply back to say that it was a nice introduction. Unfortunately on the way, sadly I was abit nervous and did not talk to her like a normal person. Hence that superiority shield went up again and this was the end of it. If I had just continued to carry on the conversation as with a friend, I think my chances of scoring are pretty high I'd say.

This is an example of how a proper Neg should look like. First off, it doesn't directly attack a person. All it did was ask a question to suggest what the truth was and have her examine herself on this matter. I also gave her a way to step down from this by lying that she was the mistress of the house if she wanted to.

Some guys flare up and insult a woman when they are treated badly and lash out saying that they are worthless and proceed to boast about their own social status and think that is Negging. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. That's just being rude and insulting mostly. Even most Gurus acknowledge that Cocky Funny and Negs are a tricky topic to get right.

While I did laugh at some of it because it was the truth. Remember the rule: different women have different thresholds, start subtle and use micro-escalation. Also, if you can't execute the Neg right (I say this from experience because it takes a certain personality), walk away. Remember the first rule of Inner Game. Don't let them mess you up or show you to be a lesser man.

Let me give you another example. A girl posted on her status : 'I can't get a cab for the past 1 hour'

I reply 'I know! She's trying to get a free ride home from the Skouters! Skouters! Charge!'

I get a little check on my profile for doing this. This is how you execute cocky funny. You talk about her true motive in a light hearted manner, and then you shift the joke in this case, to the horny Skouter men that know the truth and can take it rather than focusing all the attention on her.

These are just two simple examples from my own chats to show how Negs and Cocky Funny, can be extremely useful in flirtation. But the important thing to remember, is that one must exercise subtlety and caution when executing them both, as well as social grace to 'give people some face.'

[Camel]

Good thread :)

[SammyNewbie]

Good thread :)

Thank you =). Also since this reply somehow created a new page, I've written a small article on 'Negs and Cocky funny' on the previous page for bros who have not read it.

[PikachuDoraemon]

in your life you only spent time cheating girls?

[behtahanalready]

Awesome thread! This is something that I've been looking for since I downloaded WeChat..
One question tho, what if I put a pic of my gf and I, will that affect anything?

[SammyNewbie]

This is quite a sensitive topic. I personally think that putting a picture of you with your girlfriend is actually better provided that you can carry a conversation with the ladies and put them at ease without being overtly flirtatious.

If they should choose to have a relationship with you, they are also clear and aware of the consequences.

Having said that, it's gonna be harder for you to actually attack the ladies directly because if a single guy like me were to be abit naughty, they might just take it as a compliment and then turn me down nicely before continuing to talk to me. If you are attached however, unless you are really sure they like you, they are likely to immediately label you as a cheat and block you.

So u gain the advantage of having a higher chance of a reply, but u also stand a higher chance of a friendzone risk and have to tread carefully. Being single lowers your chance of a reply probably by alot, but at the same time, you're a little freer to do naughty stuff easier to progress to a romance or bedding. So take your pick to which set of difficulties you'd prefer to deal with.

This is my personal opinion.

Besides that, if you are attached, several attached bros here have actually advised in other threads against using your actual picture/name on chat apps in case your girlfriend actually finds you there. Things could get rather nasty if she gets suspicious after she sees your photo and checks your phone, for example.

[SammyNewbie]

in your life you only spent time cheating girls?

I can't believe this slipped past me and I only noticed it during one of my routine narcissist checks on my own threads to make grammatical edits :D. You must be recently out of moderation.

This thread doesn't teach you how to cheat gals. It teaches you techniques on how to improve your social skills with them or even your self-confidence.

Ultimately the motive may be to bed them, ask them out, or befriend them. That is up to the reader to make his choice.

You clearly did not read this thread properly before making this thoughtless reply beyond the motive of appearing cool and being a white knight. :p

Anyhow, a post search shows you are pretty parley with the CSI team, so just go out with them on drinking sessions already, you don't need to be here.

[qazxswedc312]

in your life you only spent time cheating girls?

morally it is wrong of cos.but we are only young once.once we old we cant.or married.why not now :D

[justwanadoit]

Bro，u so sexpert. I ask u. I got to know this wechat gal then chat . I actually married liao but I told her I single no one wan me. Knn she jio me out. realise she Taiwanese , study USA . Bonkable like 6.5-7/10, bit baba but good complexion .

During 1st date allow me hold hand. Then get kiss get gd nite on cheeks.

Tink got gd chance ups her.

Lidat hw? I feel like telling her I dun wan relationship but jus wan ups. Been very gentleman in my 1st date though.should I just tell her I wan ONS?

[SammyNewbie]

Considering how she studied in the US, she could be quite open about sex. I'm not really able to gauge this because I've never interacted with her.

The safest way to do it is to go out with her on a few normal dates, and then finally do a seduction date. This date has to be different from a normal date. You have to bring her to special exotic places, like maybe a concert or play and to a nice dinner with fine dining before getting her in the mood and then thank her for the great evening, start making out, and I think she's yours.

If you don't really have that sort of budget to do an expensive seduction date, you can still consider cheaper alternatives like art museums, or interesting places as long as it's exotic and different the mundane everyday life. The whole point of this is that the seduction date has to be different from the normal date and planned out to set sex on the charts right at the end.

Whether or not you go for a romantic night festival or go to an art museum and a quiet quaint cafe people don't visit and then chat/flirt thru the night about your life and dreams, it just has to be different from a normal one so she's subconsciously aware of what it will lead to.

Does she club? If she does, things get alot simpler. Just go out clubbing with her and to dance and drink, then after that when you guys get high, I think you don't need me to teach you what to do after that ;)

Please be a gentlemen all the way to the end. Don't leave her in the hotel after you bonk her and run off by yourself. See her home after the deed is done. If you want to establish a FB relationship, the idea is to be nice but to keep your distance at the same time. Take awhile to reply to her messages and pretend to be busy, but when you reply, make sure you show you care and are listening.

[PPGirl]

Anyhow, a post search shows you are pretty parley with the CSI team, so just go out with them on drinking sessions already, you don't need to be here.

I cant believe u link almost anyone to csi team.
So do we have to say thank you to u for promoting csi team in your every other thread
Beside drinking, we have other activities too. And dont act like u machiam know csi team very well :rolleyes:

[SammyNewbie]

Well, what surprise. I never knew that my thread was subscribed by so many silent people.

I'm afraid do not teach female seduction, so you've come to the wrong place.

Furthermore the techniques that are taught here frankly are virtually undetectable from a normal guy talking to you or even dating you. Well, you can continue subscribing and reading, but to be honest, this thread won't benefit you very much.

It's like a book on dating written for men by a woman. I've read those and I find they are biased towards the female and hardly containing useful advice. ;)

Perhaps I should pick a female seduction book up just to read about the games they play, but I think no female would listen to a man teach them about seduction or life coaching.

[PPGirl]

Perhaps u think too highly of yourself that how would some subscribe to your thread.
Anyway i din read any of your postings in here just happen to read your post that u link another person to csi. I rather read stories from coffeecans or gecko

Seriously i dun need any male seduction as im attached not like someone whom have to resort to go church or somewhere else to find other half lol

[SammyNewbie]

To each their own frankly.

Regarding church, I do not understand why females think it's a good place to find a man. But now that you mention it, I'd just ask some of the males that think that's a good place to hunt to be cautious when looking for a girlfriend or life partner there. Especially Mega Churches. I repeat that it's not a good place.

I've abit of time before my interview, so I'll give a couple of reasons why I say so

-Some of my army friends tell me their female friends go to church to attempt to find a boyfriend

-Demographics of this tends to be clubbing, smoking, party gals.

- This probably means they are looking for stupid naive carrot head to settle down with that only look at their looks because smart guys don't want them and just f*ck and leave because they tend to behave badly.

- Church is an environment where everyone acts Holy. It's quite impossible to see how a girl really is in such an environment.

-Pursuing such a relationship when you are interested in sex is not good. They'll cite religion as an excuse not to do it with you, whether or not they sleep around outside is another topic.

-Church states in Mega Churches in particular are pretty much like SBF. It's surprising, but I've seen it when people have internal political strifes because of a sweet young thing in the cell group. Many Many fake people there. You should not kill your own friends for a one night stand or only a potential chance for getting into a girl's pussy ;)

[justwanadoit]

To each their own frankly.

Regarding church, I do not understand why females think it's a good place to find a man. But now that you mention it, I'd just ask some of the males that think that's a good place to hunt to be cautious when looking for a girlfriend or life partner there. Especially Mega Churches. I repeat that it's not a good place.



I disagree. It's a good place if u dun mind being converted.

Many guys I know dey in go in for gals thinking dey mentally strong to withstand watever e church throw at them and still be samie guy. I can assure u 99% all converted and even try to preach to me. So neber unerestimate the power of influence of these churches. Go in at ur own risk

[SammyNewbie]

Aiyo! Liddat ar I no business liao! Cannot even consider the partnership a bro offered me via PM to do online seduction coaching. Back to programming :(

Anyway, that's why it kinda sucks to be Christian. You become good, then u got Carrot head by a slut:p

Also, not everyone will get converted lah. Alot of people from these churches and honestly win the Star Awards for their acting.;)

[KhunnTey]

guys... tried OKC before? Bonk 2 char bo before.

1- desperate gal, for getting a BF. She drives so just 1 session of bonking and oral sex, inside her car. Wanted me to marry her... :eek: she got new bf I heard.

2- another OL. late 20s. Spent around $500 shopping on her. nabey! :cool:
ONLY 1 session in hotel. Keep mentioning about marriage. :(
(I miss her solid C boobs... :(..........................) and her moans... !!!!!!

[SammyNewbie]

Alpha tricks Part 2 -Neutralisation and AMOGing

Recently I've been here for away for a number of job interviews and been rather busy whether with applications or on Skout. I've noticed that my article on Negging and Cocky Funny has had some effect. Trolls have indeed vanished pretty much, and I start to see these subtle negs happening on Skout.

But I've also noticed that some bros have indeed started to pick up the Seduction Books I've recommended and started to read them and practice some things even beyond what I have taught here. Some of these techniques actually focus on attacking bros and bringing down their personal styles in order to raise their own social status or chances with the gals.

It is with great reluctance that I actually write this article, because some of the things here can potentially destroy people and sour friendships, but I see a need for this for the simple reason that bros need to be aware when these techniques are used as well as know how to counter them.

I emphasize this again : Do not kill your friends/bros over a piece of ass/pussy. True friends have more economic value in the long term than a piece of pussy. They can

1) Be of help to cover your ass in a work place when needed
2) Be there for you to just listen or when you are in trouble
3) Give support to you in practical ways eg. Helping you in an area where you are weak in that they are good at

Even if you don't subscribe to my values and may be a complete psychopath or slightly psychotic, Please remember these long term benefits you get before you decide to kill your friend for a short term sex gain. Again, I cannot stress point this enough:

DO NOT KILL YOUR FRIEND FOR A WOMAN.

If you choose not to follow this piece of advice, you'll regret it, so don't say I didn't warn you.

Now that I've got the disclaimer out of the way let me just go into the field trip. What is neutralisation? Neutralisation is exposing another bro's seduction technique or style of seduction unique to himself. In the example again of 'The Game' the main protagonist's coach Mystery, was actually a magician by trade. Thus when he did his Pick Ups, he usually incorporated some magic tricks into them as a part of his style.

Now one of the other bros when he decided to Pick Up chicks near the area, decided that he wasn't as good as Mystery with what he did. So what he did was tell the gals 'See that guy over there? He's gonna come up to you and humour you with some magic tricks so oblige him a little'.

Notice how this technique messed with Mystery's routine, because the girls already knew what he was going to do. This took the novelty out of the seduction.

Now back to a Skout field trip. There was actually a bro that was doing something very interesting and unique on Skout. He was actually asking questions to probe girls on opinions and to get them to open up sort of like 'Would you rather go without the internet or sex if given a choice?' and these sort of questions as conversation starters to attract gals and guys to his feed to talk, and it was working.

I think it would have been great if he could actually inject some of this into his private talk and daily conversation. That bro would definitely get laid if it was done right and mind end up with a friend with benefit, fuck buddy or even girlfriend if he wanted. Being a benign rather than malignant person, I had already noticed this seduction technique much earlier, but I simply went on to do my own thing and not interrupt this bro at his work, after all, he had done nothing to me.

I think honestly, it was a beneficial ground for people to exchange ideas as well as interact to actually see the true side of opinions so whoever could hook up with whoever. And if you were a white knight that just followed what the gals said, it was obvious you had no personality or were trying to get in a gals pants and crapping your way through.

I never thought people would actually be jealous and resort to this. One day while that bro was just doing this, a bro fired a poisonous dart at him in the form of an innocent question “Wow, you keep asking questions everyday? Are you doing market research for something?”

Neutralised. All replies to such questions and people practicing this technique immediately dropped. This bro was smart enough to detect the Neutralisation and actually step down gracefully and stop using the technique.

Now that I've talked about Neutralisation, I'm going to talk about some of the counters and reactions to this. One of the ways to do it is actually to exposing the Neutralisation. In this case I felt rather than stepping down gracefully and going ”Ah Yeah... something like that”, my response would have been something more offensive and assertive like “Is there a problem with me asking these questions? I find that they provide rather interesting discussions” or if you want to be even more offensive you could include a little neg to go “Are my difficult questions causing you headaches?” as a replacement to the second part. This provides room for people to realise what's going on and to back you up.

A second way to actually counter this is to do your own Neutralisation on his technique. You could also go “Then you leh? You also go gal's pic and say those naughty puns to them leh!”

Both neutralisations should be done in as friendly a manner as possible, but show that you have a knife in your hand should things get ugly. They must look like they are done in good fun, but be enough to deliver a message across, kinda like the negs I demonstrated. Think of it like our National Day Parade. We always fly our latest aircraft and show our tanks and our navy in the show doing fancy non battle stuff, but why do we do it? It's to show our neighbouring countries that hidden message that 'If you want to attack us, please think twice', all thinly guised under a performance and celebration.

A fair warning about neutralisation, when you attempt these techniques in real life, things could get physically ugly, so make sure you have enough firepower and people to support you to back you up. Whether it's your bros, or the gals that can soothe the savage beast, you better be prepared, cause being neutralised and having to hit back is not a good feeling for both sides. That's why I told you not to kill your friends over a pussy earlier ;)

The second technique is what I call AMOGing, short of 'Alpha Male of Group', this itself is the process of jockeying for establishing yourself as the Alpha Male of the group or one of the dominant males. One of the ways of doing this is being parley with the males and talking about topics they like and engaging them. eg. Making an interesting opinionated post which expresses an opinion different from the norm that may be your own, or substantiating an existing opinion with new perspectives which are personal and original. Again alliances count in this. When you have friends helping you to fend off people that are trying to neutralize you, it gets easier. DON'T KILL YOUR FRIENDS FOR GALS.

The second way to do this is actually to 'neg' some of the males in your group.

Give you another example that I was observing. What happened was that a girl came into the thread, and then one of the guys went 'don't go near X... he's very horny already, about to roam your body with his hands. See all moving'. The other guy goes “Look at him, he's staring down your chest” and then they start proceeding to jokingly defend themselves and laugh.

From a gal's perspective, it's all done in fun. For us too, we should do it light-heartedly while jockeying for the Alpha position without getting into a fight.

Once more, I stress again that this article was written for awareness and self-defence rather than offensive use. I also ask bros to read up on some of the seduction material because I am merely a mentor here to guide you the right way. I cannot teach you all there is about life and seduction, neither will I be here forever to write articles depending on where my own life may take me. You'll have to learn some of this yourself, and I do hope that some of you will have that same spirit to come forward to share as well, as I have.

[julianvirtue]

Alpha tricks Part 2 -Neutralisation and AMOGing

Recently I've been here for away for a number of job interviews and been rather busy whether with applications or on Skout. I've noticed that my article on Negging and Cocky Funny has had some effect. Trolls have indeed vanished pretty much, and I start to see these subtle negs happening on Skout.

But I've also noticed that some bros have indeed started to pick up the Seduction Books I've recommended and started to read them and practice some things even beyond what I have taught here. Some of these techniques actually focus on attacking bros and bringing down their personal styles in order to raise their own social status or chances with the gals.

It is with great reluctance that I actually write this article, because some of the things here can potentially destroy people and sour friendships, but I see a need for this for the simple reason that bros need to be aware when these techniques are used as well as know how to counter them.

I emphasize this again : Do not kill your friends/bros over a piece of ass/pussy. True friends have more economic value in the long term than a piece of pussy. They can

1) Be of help to cover your ass in a work place when needed
2) Be there for you to just listen or when you are in trouble
3) Give support to you in practical ways eg. Helping you in an area where you are weak in that they are good at

Even if you don't subscribe to my values and may be a complete psychopath or slightly psychotic, Please remember these long term benefits you get before you decide to kill your friend for a short term sex gain. Again, I cannot stress point this enough:

DO NOT KILL YOUR FRIEND FOR A WOMAN.

If you choose not to follow this piece of advice, you'll regret it, so don't say I didn't warn you.

Now that I've got the disclaimer out of the way let me just go into the field trip. What is neutralisation? Neutralisation is exposing another bro's seduction technique or style of seduction unique to himself. In the example again of 'The Game' the main protagonist's coach Mystery, was actually a magician by trade. Thus when he did his Pick Ups, he usually incorporated some magic tricks into them as a part of his style.

Now one of the other bros when he decided to Pick Up chicks near the area, decided that he wasn't as good as Mystery with what he did. So what he did was tell the gals 'See that guy over there? He's gonna come up to you and humour you with some magic tricks so oblige him a little'.

Notice how this technique messed with Mystery's routine, because the girls already knew what he was going to do. This took the novelty out of the seduction.

Now back to a Skout field trip. There was actually a bro that was doing something very interesting and unique on Skout. He was actually asking questions to probe girls on opinions and to get them to open up sort of like 'Would you rather go without the internet or sex if given a choice?' and these sort of questions as conversation starters to attract gals and guys to his feed to talk, and it was working.

I think it would have been great if he could actually inject some of this into his private talk and daily conversation. That bro would definitely get laid if it was done right and mind end up with a friend with benefit, fuck buddy or even girlfriend if he wanted. Being a benign rather than malignant person, I had already noticed this seduction technique much earlier, but I simply went on to do my own thing and not interrupt this bro at his work, after all, he had done nothing to me.

I think honestly, it was a beneficial ground for people to exchange ideas as well as interact to actually see the true side of opinions so whoever could hook up with whoever. And if you were a white knight that just followed what the gals said, it was obvious you had no personality or were trying to get in a gals pants and crapping your way through.

I never thought people would actually be jealous and resort to this. One day while that bro was just doing this, a bro fired a poisonous dart at him in the form of an innocent question “Wow, you keep asking questions everyday? Are you doing market research for something?”

Neutralised. All replies to such questions and people practicing this technique immediately dropped. This bro was smart enough to detect the Neutralisation and actually step down gracefully and stop using the technique.

Now that I've talked about Neutralisation, I'm going to talk about some of the counters and reactions to this. One of the ways to do it is actually to exposing the Neutralisation. In this case I felt rather than stepping down gracefully and going ”Ah Yeah... something like that”, my response would have been something more offensive and assertive like “Is there a problem with me asking these questions? I find that they provide rather interesting discussions” or if you want to be even more offensive you could include a little neg to go “Are my difficult questions causing you headaches?” as a replacement to the second part. This provides room for people to realise what's going on and to back you up.

A second way to actually counter this is to do your own Neutralisation on his technique. You could also go “Then you leh? You also go gal's pic and say those naughty puns to them leh!”

Both neutralisations should be done in as friendly a manner as possible, but show that you have a knife in your hand should things get ugly. They must look like they are done in good fun, but be enough to deliver a message across, kinda like the negs I demonstrated. Think of it like our National Day Parade. We always fly our latest aircraft and show our tanks and our navy in the show doing fancy non battle stuff, but why do we do it? It's to show our neighbouring countries that hidden message that 'If you want to attack us, please think twice', all thinly guised under a performance and celebration.

A fair warning about neutralisation, when you attempt these techniques in real life, things could get physically ugly, so make sure you have enough firepower and people to support you to back you up. Whether it's your bros, or the gals that can soothe the savage beast, you better be prepared, cause being neutralised and having to hit back is not a good feeling for both sides. That's why I told you not to kill your friends over a pussy earlier ;)

The second technique is what I call AMOGing, short of 'Alpha Male of Group', this itself is the process of jockeying for establishing yourself as the Alpha Male of the group or one of the dominant males. One of the ways of doing this is being parley with the males and talking about topics they like and engaging them. eg. Making an interesting opinionated post which expresses an opinion different from the norm that may be your own, or substantiating an existing opinion with new perspectives which are personal and original. Again alliances count in this. When you have friends helping you to fend off people that are trying to neutralize you, it gets easier. DON'T KILL YOUR FRIENDS FOR GALS.

The second way to do this is actually to 'neg' some of the males in your group.

Give you another example that I was observing. What happened was that a girl came into the thread, and then one of the guys went 'don't go near X... he's very horny already, about to roam your body with his hands. See all moving'. The other guy goes “Look at him, he's staring down your chest” and then they start proceeding to jokingly defend themselves and laugh.

From a gal's perspective, it's all done in fun. For us too, we should do it light-heartedly while jockeying for the Alpha position without getting into a fight.

Once more, I stress again that this article was written for awareness and self-defence rather than offensive use. I also ask bros to read up on some of the seduction material because I am merely a mentor here to guide you the right way. I cannot teach you all there is about life and seduction, neither will I be here forever to write articles depending on where my own life may take me. You'll have to learn some of this yourself, and I do hope that some of you will have that same spirit to come forward to share as well, as I have.

AKA Cockblocking. :D

[SammyNewbie]

Did you really need to quote my entire post just to make that comment?:rolleyes:

[julianvirtue]

Long-time lurker and just started posting, so am pretty new at this. Apologies!

But anyway, great tips so far and more bros need to read this to keep WeChat as good ground for hunting :D

Can definitely attest that it works, have spent about 3 days on it so far and have some solid leads so far (others still in progress):

1) One early 20s PRC teacher asking me for my ctc and inviting me for supper several times.
2) Local teacher, mid-20s, inviting me for drinks this weekend, asking me for ctc as well
3) Local nurse, early 20s, inviting me to cheong this weekend
4) Pinoy maid, mid 30s, saying she finds me a "very nice Singaporean" cos others are snobbish -- ask me whether I can bring her go eat pizza (I also LOL when I read that)

Like what bro SammyNewbie said, advance slowly, be interested (so you 'listen' for signs to advance more). Getting a reply to a greeting is just the beginning (so it's good to have a display pic, update moments, craft a witty opening line) -- the real game begins when she adds you to her friends list :cool:

Also, my Chinese is half past six so my luck's mostly with locals... :confused:

[kabuki]

Thanks bros. Actually some of the stuff you can read online or through books. The only reason why I don't teach the rest is because I have not tried it. I don't believe in teaching things that I cannot guarantee work. =)

But some of the stuff you read online, do take with a pinch of salt and think about why they work before trying.

TS, Loved your post and insight into chatting with girls on chat apps. You're right, it is tough, but at the end of the day, treat them with respect and see what happens.

[eeemen]

Learning in whatever form is a life long process, and for this I thank you bro TS for taking the time and effort to share your thoughts and views. Whether it works or not it ultimately depends pretty much on the individual . Kudos to you n cheers, ........................

[niccck]

good content. a very basic method to follow so you to make yourself click with a female.
the usual neg,escalate,seduction keyword.
the main thing is practice! the more u do the more inbuilt it is into you and u will be able to execute seemlessly.

bros here can try reading or watching "the mystery method", which basically is the same thing which TS wrote.

[Valuable]

Good contents , thanks TS :D

[BetweenTheLegs]

thank you for the tips bro

[Summerhillt]

Bookmark first. Later come back read. But I think being able to hold a very intelligent conversation is the most important.

[german]

in this app skout there is 1 milf name sally. Innocent face but Super slutty type.Chat a few round and if you are lucky might get her

[notanexpert]

i ask you guys ah. which apps you all use?

[Cloud92]

To bros here, that means must hv money then can fuck girls?

Still need to treat ice cream?

[superhornynsf]

I need to read this thread fully. hahah my lame ass ideal is to lose my virginity to a milf :'D hahaha....

[fictionman]

Appreaciate TS tips...

But ultimately the success rate defers from each individual...If happen to chat up a FL, they will do the talking haha...If chat up a normal girl, it all boils down to how comfortable she is wz us...

[BabyEito]

TS very kind

Share how to start conversation for noob men


Keep it up

[LuckyKnight]

This is indeed a very good informative thread. Learn quite a lot.

[ahbengseng]

For bro who understand mandarin,

I like to share this (you need to have a wechat account)

Subscribe to wechat ID: bethePUA ( 把妹达人 ）

Up my points if you find it helpful ! All the best.

[ahbengseng]

My female friends have their fair share of complains about how guys try to pick them up online and offline.... it's helpful to be part of it when I get to sit ard be part of their conversation and know how different women feels and thinks....

anyway,
Found the english version

https://www.youtube.com/user/PUATrainingmedia/videos

hope you bros here pick up some helpful tips and good luck !

[adoe1]

Great tips from TS!
Very sound advice on no infighting with friends over gals.

Most people are not sure of what they want (myself included).
Gals on wechat are the same way. If I understand wechat correctly, if a gal does not use 'people nearby', u can't see her on the list. This means she is also looking around too!

Gals want sex too.. they r also human. But the traditional gender role in society is for guys to pick up girls. That's y gals also use people nearyby.. to be picked-up. So why aren't u scoring? Why kenna block? Why? Think from the gal perspective. If u r waiting to be picked-up.. who would u prefer to be upped by? Some horny siao-kia who keeps messaging "you need?" or a gentlemen.

Please do not merely ACT gentlemen. BE a gentlemen.
Treat gals with respect, have good sex together. If u find out she's not your type, let her down gently. How would u feel if u were a gal, if u let this charming guy up u.. only to be ignored after that. By letting her down gently, u can even remain friends.. she could still be that rainy day booty call.

Sex is a mutual thing. Help her to want it.

[Sirrus]

i sian my curren gf using wechat