How much do you understand from the statements below?

[Luna]

Eligibility
The following categories of person are eligible to apply for Singapore Citizenship:

Person who is at least 21 years of age and has been a Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR) for at least 2 to 6 years prior to the date of application. Applicant who wishes to apply under his/her own merits may come for a preliminary assessment interview after 1 year of permanent residence.
SPR who has satisfactorily completed full-time National Service (NS).
Spouse of Singapore Citizen with a minimum of 2-year SPR and married for at least 2 years preceding the date of application.
Minor born outside Singapore but is residing permanently in Singapore, and whose parents are Singapore Citizens.
Child born outside Singapore whose parent is a Singapore citizen.

An overseas-born minor (child) may be eligible for Singapore Citizenship by Descent under Article 122(1) of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore, if any of the following conditions can be met:

a) Male Singapore citizen by Birth who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's birth;

b) Male Singapore citizen by Registration who has a lawful marriage at time of minor's' birth and minor shall not acquire citizenship of the country he was born by reason of his birth in that country;

Does that mean if i had a baby in overseas but does not register the baby in that foreign country. The kid is qualify to be Singaporean? Thanks. :confused:

[Cheri_Popper]

It is stated that as long as you are legally married at that time to the woman and as a result of the marriage, give birth, the child is able to register for a SG Citizenship. It also mean that the child cannot take up dual citizenships and the child must denounce his/her present citizenship of the country that he/she was borned in. You must of cos be a Singaporean in the first place.

[Luna]

It is stated that as long as you are legally married at that time to the woman and as a result of the marriage, give birth, the child is able to register for a SG Citizenship. It also mean that the child cannot take up dual citizenships and the child must denounce his/her present citizenship of the country that he/she was borned in. You must of cos be a Singaporean in the first place.

So you mean i had registered with her in that foreign country and given birth to that kid kind of scenario? Like that only the kid can be S'porean but what about the mother?

[Cheri_Popper]

So you mean i had registered with her in that foreign country and given birth to that kid kind of scenario? Like that only the kid can be S'porean but what about the mother?

You must also inform Singapore ROM of your marriage to a foreigner. If she was a former Work Permit Holder, you need to apply for permission at Minitry of Manpower first before going to ROM.

She will probably be granted a long term dependant pass of 1 year. During that time, you can apply for PR status for her. She would not be granted citizenship immediately.

[Luna]

Thanks C.P. So is it better to ROM in S'pore rather than the foreign country?

[Cheri_Popper]

Thanks C.P. So is it better to ROM in S'pore rather than the foreign country?

Yes it is to be on the safer side! If your future wife just to work in SG and hold a Work Permit, you have to go to Ministry of Labour to apply for permission first before going to ROM.

On applying for PR Status, it will depend on a few factor, your income, any criminal records on both parties, whether you have been paying your taxes, both your edcuational levels....etc.

I went thru the same thing as my CO is also a foreigner!

[WHAM]

May I know what this topic has to do with "Adult Discussion about Sex" ?

[Luna]

Yes it is to be on the safer side! If your future wife just to work in SG and hold a Work Permit, you have to go to Ministry of Labour to apply for permission first before going to ROM.



Hmmm...That will be very tricky. Imagine your new born baby is required to register in S'pore within the first year he was bored + she is not yet offically registered with you. Sure hell lot of processing to do.

[Cheri_Popper]

Hmmm...That will be very tricky. Imagine your new born baby is required to register in S'pore within the first year he was bored + she is not yet offically registered with you. Sure hell lot of processing to do.

All you have to do is to inform SG Embassy there if the child is not born in SG.

My first child was born in HK and she is a SG Citizen now!

[Luna]

All you have to do is to inform SG Embassy there if the child is not born in SG.

My first child was born in HK and she is a SG Citizen now!


Thanks for the info. I will know what to do when the time comes. ;)

[Cheri_Popper]

May I know what this topic has to do with "Adult Discussion about Sex" ?

Well! It got everything to do with it. When you get married, you have sex, when you have sex, you have a baby! :D

Btw...what has it got to do with you in the first place? If you don't like to read this thread, you can always don't click on this thread. :rolleyes:

[alsahaf]

May I know what this topic has to do with "Adult Discussion about Sex" ?


Babies are the result of?

[hotbird]

Eligibility
Does that mean if i had a baby in overseas but does not register the baby in that foreign country. The kid is qualify to be Singaporean? Thanks. :confused:

I'm not suer how u gonna bring the child out of that country and into S'pore without proper paper!!

[Cheri_Popper]

I'm not suer how u gonna bring the child out of that country and into S'pore without proper paper!!

Once you have informed our SG Embassy there, and once it is approved, the child would be granted a SG Passport from the Embassy itself!

[hotbird]

Once you have informed our SG Embassy there, and once it is approved, the child would be granted a SG Passport from the Embassy itself!

exactly!! a stateless child cannot travel... so the babby still have to register in the foreign country!!

[Cheri_Popper]

exactly!! a stateless child cannot travel... so the babby still have to register in the foreign country!!
You register in the SG Embassy not the Registry of Death or Birth of that country you are in! The difference is there!

[hotbird]

You register in the SG Embassy not the Registry of Death or Birth of that country you are in! The difference is there!

for the sake of argument, I din't say have to register_with_that_country. :p

BTW, what if there's no Sg embassy?

[Cheri_Popper]

for the sake of argument, I din't say have to register_with_that_country. :p

BTW, what if there's no Sg embassy?

There should be an Embassy as long as the country has diplomatic ties with SG.

You said " Register in that Country" therefore I presumed that you meant that country.

[sexlover]

There should be an Embassy as long as the country has diplomatic ties with SG.

You said " Register in that Country" therefore I presumed that you meant that country.

Wahhhh Cheri,,,, u are like walking 'dicksenary' kekeke, too bad no longer in the Force.....

[thaivisitor]

Eligibility

Does that mean if i had a baby in overseas but does not register the baby in that foreign country. The kid is qualify to be Singaporean? Thanks. :confused:
Why don't you get the real expert advice on this matter?

Pay a visit to immigration and NRO and they'll give you the 100% correct information.

BTW, once you get it, you can then post here for all of us to know. :D

[Cheri_Popper]

Wahhhh Cheri,,,, u are like walking 'dicksenary' kekeke, too bad no longer in the Force.....
Not really lah, Immigration Act has nothing much to do with the Force lah. I know bcos my wife is a foreigner and that my first kid is also born aboard. I went through the procedure a couple of years ago.

[sexlover]

Not really lah, Immigration Act has nothing much to do with the Force lah. I know bcos my wife is a foreigner and that my first kid is also born aboard. I went through the procedure a couple of years ago.

Force is like rojak, everything also must know..'Jack of All Trade'.....

”读万卷书，不如行万里路“ kekeke.....

Your wife from HK ahhhhh?

[thaivisitor]

You register in the SG Embassy not the Registry of Death or Birth of that country you are in! The difference is there!
As far as I know, the SG embassy does not issue you birth certficates, only the Registry of birth of deaths of the country does that. This information was provided by the SG embassy in Thailand when I approached them when my son was born.

the SG embassy CANNOT issue a passport if the child does not have a name and the child cannot have a name if his birth is not registered. You cannot go to the SG embassy with a new born baby and says this baby is yours.

Registering the birth of a child in a foreign country only means that the child was born. It does not necessarily mean that the child is a citizen of that particular country. Although some countries will grant the child (normally male) automatic citizenship.

Just like many foreigners who want to have their children born in a SG hospital because of the confidence in our medical facilities. Being born here does not automatically make them SG citizens.

For a Singaporean Father, once the child is born and has the birth certificate, he can go to the SG embassy to informed them and have the citizenship procedures done. It doesn't matter if it states on the birth certificate that the child is granted the foreign citizenship as once the child reaches legal age, he/she can decide which country of citizenship he/she wants.

Then again, I believe different SG embassies, because of different people running them, probably will give you different variations. the best is still to go to immigration to get the correct answers.

My 2 cents worth.

[Cheri_Popper]

Then again, I believe different SG embassies, because of different people running them, probably will give you different variations. the best is still to go to immigration to get the correct answers.

My 2 cents worth.

When my first child was born, I registered her with our embassy in HK. They did some interview and my child was issued a SG Passport within 1 week from them.

Maybe me & my CO had registered our marriage in SG's ROM much earlier and that at that time, I was still a civil servant had help.

[Cheri_Popper]

Force is like rojak, everything also must know..'Jack of All Trade'.....

”读万卷书，不如行万里路“ kekeke.....

Your wife from HK ahhhhh?

Sorry ThreadStarter for something that is off topic to your thread.

Now I heard that it is getting worse! I heard that nowadays there are no permanent service and all are only offered contract service. And if you are not in the upper percentage of performing officers, you will be asked to resign! First they take away the pension scheme, then the direct entry to NCO scheme, etc. and now this!! It damn FT now. They always take care of those new birds and all those Old Birds like us, they can't be bothered!

Yes! my CO is from HK. She is from Tsuen Wan. Met her when I was stationed at Airport when attached there via our other "HQ"! ;)

[Rof|maoxz]

So you mean i had registered with her in that foreign country and given birth to that kid kind of scenario? Like that only the kid can be S'porean but what about the mother?

Bro, as far as I know, if your kid is born outside of SGP, in scenario like overseas attachement, those personnel bringing their foreign spouse there. Iif their child is born, the parents can return back to SPG to endorse using their child's birth cert. This will grant the baby citizenship.

[Rof|maoxz]

Thanks C.P. So is it better to ROM in S'pore rather than the foreign country?

In my opinion better get it done in SPG although there's no restriction in this.

[Rof|maoxz]

Yes it is to be on the safer side! If your future wife just to work in SG and hold a Work Permit, you have to go to Ministry of Labour to apply for permission first before going to ROM.....

Sorie arh CP, just to highlight abit, when my wife has given the LTSVP (Long term social visit pass), by the ICA, she was given a letter from MOM saying she is allowed to work if her employer helped her to apply for the WP and the levy etc. Need no go to MOM for permission.

[Rof|maoxz]

Sorry ThreadStarter for something that is off topic to your thread.

Now I heard that it is getting worse! I heard that nowadays there are no permanent service and all are only offered contract service. And if you are not in the upper percentage of performing officers, you will be asked to resign! First they take away the pension scheme, then the direct entry to NCO scheme, etc. and now this!! It damn FT now...)

Ya, heard only top 10% of the selected ones.

[Cheri_Popper]

Sorie arh CP, just to highlight abit, when my wife has given the LTSVP (Long term social visit pass), by the ICA, she was given a letter from MOM saying she is allowed to work if her employer helped her to apply for the WP and the levy etc. Need no go to MOM for permission.

I didn't know about that! All ICA told me was that she can't work while holding a LTSVP.

Anyway, she is already a PR liao so can work now! :D

[Rof|maoxz]

I didn't know about that! All ICA told me was that she can't work while holding a LTSVP.

Anyway, she is already a PR liao so can work now! :D

Ya. But it's still unadvisable to let her work while having LTSVP.