WL As Girlfriend....awkward if she work ?

[Horsepower]

Hi All, I am new here. This is my first new thread so if I for some reasons flout the regulations here "qing duo duo bao han, duo duo zhi jiao".

I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

[simnon]

2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

Well, I am in a similar situation now, having known this gal last year Jun 04 till now, close to a year from MG to BS.
She told me that she already had about 100 men who screwed her since her first day of work in June 04 which I did not mind, being a cheongster myself too.
I have even visited her a couple of times when she was back in china waiting for the visa approval.
Although the money spent was within my means, however, I am now pondering if this is love or lust or obsession or to fill a vacuum due to stress from work. She is going back this June 05.
End of the day, their dream is to make enough money for their future, but it may not include you in the picture.

Just my experience and opinions

[airbrush]

...it is very difficult to resovle heart to heart issue....do what you think is right and never regret...but one thing, I must caution you is "Never loose you sense of reasoning."

[walkingdick]

I'd rather leave all options open to both of us, I cal this "companionship" because there's no true commitment.

I'm sure every bros her want a GF to have for his very own, the principle of BF/GF ownership values does not apply here.

[Konkek Johnson]

I struggle with the above feelings. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

bro.... the human heart is a bastard... :D . first just ask yourself how long can u put up with that option above. eventually u wil still get sianz one. unless u gotta heart of stone. trust me bro...how much we try to deny it....if somebody else is using our "car" , let alone many people, sure fed up one. So count how long can u put up with it first...then u would have answered ur own question.

[Deltaboy55]

For this sort of things, there's no right or wrong. Important thing here is whether 'Do You Mind'? Nobody can answer this question for you. If you don't, well and good. But if you do, then do you have the $$$$ to support her as your ONLY companion? That's the basic criteria. As a man, you will have to support the woman in your life. If you only treat her as a casual gf, then maybe it's best not to have too high expectations so that you will not be hurt too deeply when you found out the truth about the things done behind your back.

[Horsepower]

...it is very difficult to resovle heart to heart issue....do what you think is right and never regret...but one thing, I must caution you is "Never loose you sense of reasoning."
I don't claim to be a lau chiao in cheong scene, but has been cheonging for the past 13 years which is a long time. I've always tell myself pay-and-go, never involve in any WL of FL emotionally. But like you said, it's difficult to resolve heart issues, you get involved without knowing it.

[Hasa Sas]

Hi All, I am new here. This is my first new thread so if I for some reasons flout the regulations here "qing duo duo bao han, duo duo zhi jiao".

I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

learn to accept and get use to all these and you will be fine.

By being a cheongsters for years, sometimes we have to learn
to close one eye and open one eye...have to live with it

Sometimes the WLs whom you book can happened to be gf of
some other people . Hope you can understand ;)

[Horsepower]

Well, I am in a similar situation now, having known this gal last year Jun 04 till now, close to a year from MG to BS.
She told me that she already had about 100 men who screwed her since her first day of work in June 04 which I did not mind, being a cheongster myself too.
I have even visited her a couple of times when she was back in china waiting for the visa approval.
Although the money spent was within my means, however, I am now pondering if this is love or lust or obsession or to fill a vacuum due to stress from work. She is going back this June 05.
End of the day, their dream is to make enough money for their future, but it may not include you in the picture.

Just my experience and opinions
Bro, the WL may not be your wife but I just wonder how you can take it knowing someone is bonking her ? If somebody use my rented car I also "buay song" one.

[Optimus_Prime]

Hi All, I am new here. This is my first new thread so if I for some reasons flout the regulations here "qing duo duo bao han, duo duo zhi jiao".

I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

Just my 2 cents worth here...

Straight from the Horses(or WL) mouth:

If you are really worth the effort. They will quit the WL scene for you.

If you are not worth it, they will still continue while having you as companionship. But they will be on lookout for the next bigger fish (either $$rich enuff to bao them or who is so good to them that they feel it's wrong to be a WL if they are with you)

[Horsepower]

Just my 2 cents worth here...

Straight from the Horses(or WL) mouth:

If you are really worth the effort. They will quit the WL scene for you.

If you are not worth it, they will still continue while having you as companionship. But they will be on lookout for the next bigger fish (either $$rich enuff to bao them or who is so good to them that they feel it's wrong to be a WL if they are with you)
Agree to a certain extent. But bottom line still money. If the sponsorship $$$ > their earning potential, they'll quit for sure.

[sadfa]

I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

bro, if u know u cant afford to keep her n u gotta let her work, u know she may do all those things u worry about. if u still worry, then u shouldnt have a wl as your gf. u should look for a normal ger.

anyway dont trust them when they say they dont wai mai hor.

[Castrol]

If you are really worth the effort. They will quit the WL scene for you.

)

when this happen, kudos to both parties, but always think twice before getting serious, like bro airbrush said - "Never loose your sense of reasoning."

i have 2 friends who got serious with ktv girls.
1st friend married a ktv local girl. she is a looker with superb headlights. before marriage, this friend drink with us at least twice a week. he is working for his family business, bets on soccer 500 no problem. after marriage since 1 year ago, knn we saw him twice only. he didnt tell anybody what changed him.
my guess is, he may not feel comfortable seeing us becos most of us know she used to be a ktv girl.

2nd friend asked a malaysian ktv girl to live with him and quit the ktv, which she did. lived together for about 3 years now, unable or dont want to get married. she is a bloody drinker, and my friend saw guys sending her home and know guys are calling her on the phone. so many times, he had to fuck the guys or tell them to meet up with time and place blah blah blah... the last time i spoke to him, he said he is trying to get her to move out and FO. he is financially drained due to supporting her.

[Optimus_Prime]

Agree to a certain extent. But bottom line still money. If the sponsorship $$$ > their earning potential, they'll quit for sure.

U miss the point.... they will quit regardless if you can match their earning potential.

If they quit becus u match their earning potential, then u are just their "leaning moutain" or sugar-daddy. I dun think that is what u r looking for...

[bhoven]

bro, if u know u cant afford to keep her n u gotta let her work, u know she may do all those things u worry about. if u still worry, then u shouldnt have a wl as your gf. u should look for a normal ger.

anyway dont trust them when they say they dont wai mai hor.

I guess u have to ask yourself what is your LT objective. If u want to marry her, then u should ask her if she is prepared to accept your financial means and quit to do more conventional work. If she is not, then you should just enjoy her company and stop stressing yourself over her current line of work. One way to feel less involved is to have other "companions" and not just stick to her....

[Happosai]

After my fair share of painful experience, I've learnt never ever to mix cheonging and emotion. For eg, if I go KTV, it's just for drinks, sing song, catching up with old friends, eat/squeeze melons, and other sleezy activities. If I find her interesting, I'll just ask her to go hotel bonk her brains out then pay her. After my fair share of fun I'll just go home. If she's that good then I might go back for 2nd helping. I dont give out my contact at KTV to the gals or mamasan as I dont wish and/or want any relationship out of cheonging. We have to be objective, cheonging is cheonging, have fun, pay up and leave it as sweet memories, full stop.

So my stand is I wont have a WL as a gf/mistress. I dont know bout the rest of the guys here, but when matter of the heart are involved, I'm very selfish. My wife/gf/mistress is mine and mine only.

[sadfa]

If she is not, then you should just enjoy her company and stop stressing yourself over her current line of work. One way to feel less involved is to have other "companions" and not just stick to her....

bro, u should tell bro horsepower. he asked the question, not me.

anyway what u say is true. can be bf gf with these gers n enjoy one anothers' company. i suppose many people stick to one ger to get the special special feeling she wont give to other men.

plus who got so much time n money to get tangled with so many other 'companions'.

but if a person can say he wants to marry a hc or ktv ger after being with them for a short time only, somethin is wrong somewhere.

[Bomb]

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

If only a fling n no intention of long term, ask her feed u 1st la........
they comfirm richer then us, juz my tots...
no offence

[Optimus_Prime]

If only a fling n no intention of long term, ask her feed u 1st la........
they comfirm richer then us, juz my tots...
no offence

Hmmm... u seem like u have "Little White Face" training b4 ?? Do share leh.. :D

[nakamara]

If only a fling n no intention of long term, ask her feed u 1st la........
they comfirm richer then us, juz my tots...
no offence

yeah...with a few ex i also try that at the start of the relationship before...just to test test them issit the bloodsucker type. Those that willingly pay for my expenses when i'm 'down' (which i'm acting only) are those i treat better when i start to show my $$. :)

[Bomb]

Hmmm... u seem like u have "Little White Face" training b4 ?? Do share leh.. :D

I will refer u to , read below....


yeah...with a few ex i also try that at the start of the relationship before...just to test test them issit the bloodsucker type. Those that willingly pay for my expenses when i'm 'down' (which i'm acting only) are those i treat better when i start to show my $$.

I totally agree, learn from Cao Cao, Rather fail the world then let the world fail u.........Gf wl, dun need so serious, juz my tots too...

Bro Optimus_Prime,
i wanna be little white face but no one wanna feed me lay,lol

[solidwoody]

Not all working ladies are bad just like not all office lady are gd. Some of this working ladies are doing this type of job due to family circumstances. Ask yourself which women would want to be groped and squeezed every day and night by strange men. I feel that some of these women actually are more understanding than your regular office lady. They may be rough in their language and behaviour, however those that I know are actually quite traditional. I know WLs who dun go out with clients for dinnner or outings. So lets not be hasty in our generalisation of these poor women.

[chikok]

IMHO, i don't think all KTV gals are out for your money, there are those who really long for companionship. But before you commit to anything seriously, please take a good look at yourself first. ( I don't meant to insult anyone here,but if so unfortunately any bro take offence . Please forgive me, or you can zap me if it really have broken your heart) . If you are young , hunky and handsome. I think she might really fall for you. But if you are not, i think she's more after whats in your wallet.

[ken_v2]

We have to be objective, cheonging is cheonging, have fun, pay up and leave it as sweet memories, full stop.


totally agreed with brother Happosai... just Fuck and Forget. Ultimately our family must be our first priority.

[tanterry]

IMHO, i don't think all KTV gals are out for your money, there are those who really long for companionship. But before you commit to anything seriously, please take a good look at yourself first. ( I don't meant to insult anyone here,but if so unfortunately any bro take offence . Please forgive me, or you can zap me if it really have broken your heart) . If you are young , hunky and handsome. I think she might really fall for you. But if you are not, i think she's more after whats in your wallet.

Of course, both you and KTV gals could really fall for each other at the start. But as relationships go deeper... Due to matters of the hearts, everyone gonna get hurt. No doubt some are less greedy than others. But don't forget why she come here. It is all about money money. So the happy relationship may carry on if you got money! Once you broke, ciao to the honeymoon! ;)

[durex]

Follow your heart :)

[GarlicBread]

Sometimes the WLs whom you book can happened to be gf of
some other people . Hope you can understand ;)


tis is really experience words :)

[Harrier24B]

Bros,

So many China WL's going back on June 5th? one of the chicks i know from Vegas also going back that date, let me share an interesting experience with you guys....

It seems a very popular flight back for the China girls are the MU 0055hrs flight to Shanghai.

Anyway, I was at the airport doing check in when i see a very clingy china girl with a local guy....both were very dramatic and when going to go in both were tearing and the guy take some money pass to her somemore..........BUT the moment the girl went in, she straight away look like a totally changed person....so happy...go buy liquor and call her frens chit chat happily......BTW, i've witnessed this many times already...so....guys beware and dun get cheated by their 'emotions'....

Just what I've witnessed....

[chikok]

Anyway, I was at the airport doing check in when i see a very clingy china girl with a local guy....both were very dramatic and when going to go in both were tearing and the guy take some money pass to her somemore..........BUT the moment the girl went in, she straight away look like a totally changed person....so happy...go buy liquor and call her frens chit chat happily......BTW, i've witnessed this many times already...so....guys beware and dun get cheated by their 'emotions'....



Another poor robert.

When my fav ktv girl went back to china. My heart went with her. But luckily, its my brain who control the wallet.

[Horsepower]

Bros,

So many China WL's going back ...........
Yozz bro, waiting for your posting continuation at your thread leh. Simi conclusion ...? :)

[Horsepower]

Not all working ladies are bad just like not all office lady are gd. Some of this working ladies are doing this type of job due to family circumstances. Ask yourself which women would want to be groped and squeezed every day and night by strange men. I feel that some of these women actually are more understanding than your regular office lady. They may be rough in their language and behaviour, however those that I know are actually quite traditional. I know WLs who dun go out with clients for dinnner or outings. So lets not be hasty in our generalisation of these poor women.
Let me say this. I went low on vitamin M for a certain period and my gf offered to pay her own school fees. I declined and managed to settle it. Not all are mercenary.
But I have ever fetch another to school, she was late and wanna tabao chicken rice to school. She asked me for $10 as by I stopped by a coffee shop to tabao... tabao for classmates also... :eek:

[mark21]

BRO, HORSEPOWER EVEN YOU KNOW IT BUT ALREADY "MA MU" LIAO.SO, LIFE IS SHORT, ENJOY & DON'T REGRET IT FOR A SWEET WL RELATIONSHIP.

[Horsepower]

Anybody got (or ever had) wife/gf/mistress working as WL ? Would like to hear the views. Thanks.

[sadfa]

I know WLs who dun go out with clients for dinnner or outings. So lets not be hasty in our generalisation of these poor women.

u sure? going to try 2 sian a wl. if she dont go out, will be very difficult.
anyway some of these charbor say they wont wai mai etc etc, so it will be interesting to see if they can be sian slowly or not.

ps: i asked already. she say no bf or hubby. of course she could be lying like what many of these wl do.

[Horsepower]

u sure? going to try 2 sian a wl. if she dont go out, will be very difficult.
anyway some of these charbor say they wont wai mai etc etc, so it will be interesting to see if they can be sian slowly or not.

ps: i asked already. she say no bf or hubby. of course she could be lying like what many of these wl do.
Those who don't go out normally got bf here or kenna bao (partial or full package). Or married to local, eg Jennifer/Jasmine from MG.

Some don't go out makan because they cannot tahan Singapore food. So I go NTUC buy groceries bring to their house let them cook and eat there lor. :D

[sadfa]

Those who don't go out normally got bf here or kenna bao (partial or full package). Or married to local, eg Jennifer/Jasmine from MG.


actually this one is a local. some locals dont wai mai, some do. those who dont, say pai seh etc etc.

just want to try to sian a local wl for a change.

[noname123]

Have the time and $$$ can liao lor....

Awaiting for your outcome..... ;)

[sadfa]

Anybody got (or ever had) wife/gf/mistress working as WL ? Would like to hear the views. Thanks.

4got to mention from the start, this all depends on your deal w her, which is very impt to establish from the start.

some people bao them. some people partially bao them, like u said. n they have their own deals ie cannot wai mai but can sit tables. but u can never know what they secretly do behind your back.

but can still be very siong. some people fetch their chabor to n from work. some even go to the ktv to get table to jagar them (but cannot play cos scared the charbor will know). end of the day, she want to tou jiak, she still can fuck in the toilet or nearby hotel.

if u dont even partially pao her, 2 paraphrase what bro naemlo said, u have no right to stop her. u have to live with it lor.

[Malaysian Datuk]

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

1)I presume you know her while chionging the ktv, if she becomes your gf....why would you still want to frequent that ktv? Unless to 'keep her company' during her working hours?
2) Sitting with friends is a big no no.....lots of conflicts (between u & her and u & ur friends)but then again if they are really your friends then they would hands off her (unless they are in the dark) and for her part she should stay away from your friends too
3) This would take many years of 'kungfu' to be able to take it.....some kungfu masters cannot even attain this level of tolerance
4) If you can stomach question 3....this is small beer
5) Since she is in the market, might as well go all the way.....free advertising. Question again...can you bear to read the FRs on her?
Sorry bro I dun think any of the bros here can give you 'correct' answers to your questions......if you are an optimist maybe you can believe that LOVE CONQUERS ALL

[mirage]

Recently went to one TN shop and did a HJ there. This girl, I think about 30yo, asked me if I had a gf. Told her I am unattached and she asked if I am interested to befriend her. And she went on to ask if we guys mind to have gf like her doing such a job. I was dumbfounded and did not reply directly. :eek: At the end of thesession, she gave me her hp number and asked me to call her.

Later, had a session with another PRC. There she told me she had a sister here and told me that her sister used to work in this line but now is a PR in Singapore married to a Singaporean. I commented how lucky she is to have some one who dont mind about her past since he knows about her history. She replied that the man is only after her money.

I guess this type of relationship mainly hooked on money and sex. True love is hard to find here.

Just my opinion. :o Hopefully this comment will not attract zapping of my rep....

[Optimus_Prime]

1)I presume you know her while chionging the ktv, if she becomes your gf....why would you still want to frequent that ktv? Unless to 'keep her company' during her working hours?
2) Sitting with friends is a big no no.....lots of conflicts (between u & her and u & ur friends)but then again if they are really your friends then they would hands off her (unless they are in the dark) and for her part she should stay away from your friends too
3) This would take many years of 'kungfu' to be able to take it.....some kungfu masters cannot even attain this level of tolerance
4) If you can stomach question 3....this is small beer
5) Since she is in the market, might as well go all the way.....free advertising. Question again...can you bear to read the FRs on her?
Sorry bro I dun think any of the bros here can give you 'correct' answers to your questions......if you are an optimist maybe you can believe that LOVE CONQUERS ALL

Ur answers really show u have experience here. Good job man.

But seriously... we Singapore Men just brought up differently... can neber stomach No. 3...heck..No. 4 will prob kill us already...

Know of one WL whose brother even let his gf come to singapore and be streetwalker.... sighh...*shake head*... how can like that...

no backbone man...

[sadfa]

I guess this type of relationship mainly hooked on money and sex. True love is hard to find here.

Just my opinion. :o Hopefully this comment will not attract zapping of my rep....

nothing to zap u over. just like some wl want a bf cos of their money, im sure vice versa by some men also.

[Horsepower]

1)I presume you know her while chionging the ktv, if she becomes your gf....why would you still want to frequent that ktv? Unless to 'keep her company' during her working hours?
2) Sitting with friends is a big no no.....lots of conflicts (between u & her and u & ur friends)but then again if they are really your friends then they would hands off her (unless they are in the dark) and for her part she should stay away from your friends too
3) This would take many years of 'kungfu' to be able to take it.....some kungfu masters cannot even attain this level of tolerance
4) If you can stomach question 3....this is small beer
5) Since she is in the market, might as well go all the way.....free advertising. Question again...can you bear to read the FRs on her?
Sorry bro I dun think any of the bros here can give you 'correct' answers to your questions......if you are an optimist maybe you can believe that LOVE CONQUERS ALL
Yoz, Datuk you are answering my questions directly. Thanks. Just to clarify that my gf had gone back, but my good fren is now facing the same problem I had so that's why I started to thread to seek some answers.

My replies :
1. Yes knew her there. The policy was the place she work I dun go there play.
2. Agree. Sometime never know becos this circle so small. She understand a bit of English and sat with Boss Sam I think... :eek:
3. Not easy.
4. Not easy
5. Ever saw some samsters post her name. But the report is cannot jio out type, give excuses type.

Anyway appreciate your views bro.

[sadfa]

[QUOTE=Horsepower]2. Agree. Sometime never know becos this circle so small. She understand a bit of English and sat with Boss Sam I think... :eek:
QUOTE]


sat with boss sam? r u sure? i thought no one seen him before.

[Horsepower]

[QUOTE=Horsepower]2. Agree. Sometime never know becos this circle so small. She understand a bit of English and sat with Boss Sam I think... :eek:
QUOTE]


sat with boss sam? r u sure? i thought no one seen him before.
She said 1 group of customers in IT. She sit with a guy called Sam and he migrate to Oz and own a business there. Anyway some ktv WLs (inclusive my ger) surf the web, and one of them check SBF hor. :eek:

[sadfa]

She said 1 group of customers in IT. She sit with a guy called Sam and he migrate to Oz and own a business there. Anyway some ktv WLs (inclusive my ger) surf the web, and one of them check SBF hor. :eek:


hmm based on what many people observe, sam is not one person, but several persons. he is more commonly known to be of arabic descent, not chinese.
he also dislike commercial sex.

his real name is also not sam leong. sam leong is the name of a road in spore.

btw the wl i thought prc? can understand english well?

[Horsepower]

hmm based on what many people observe, sam is not one person, but several persons. he is more commonly known to be of arabic descent, not chinese.
he also dislike commercial sex.

his real name is also not sam leong. sam leong is the name of a road in spore.

btw the wl i thought prc? can understand english well?
PRC take advance English.
I think he also operate as user here. Some people join 5 months got 900+ point. :eek:

[sadfa]

I think he also operate as user here. Some people join 5 months got 900+ point. :eek:

maybe they paid for it?

i remember someone trying to auction their nick with many pts. when sam heard of it, being the business man he is, he was more than willing to sell the pts or even zap the guy with high rep pts.

anyway if u want the pts, u can pay him for it. im sure he will consider.

[noname123]

hmm based on what many people observe, sam is not one person, but several persons. he is more commonly known to be of arabic descent, not chinese.
he also dislike commercial sex.

his real name is also not sam leong. sam leong is the name of a road in spore.

btw the wl i thought prc? can understand english well?

BOSS BOSS....someone say you cheong KTV....PLS VERIFY to clear mis-understanding leh....IF YEs..where is yr FR ..... :D

[Horsepower]

maybe they paid for it?

i remember someone trying to auction their nick with many pts. when sam heard of it, being the business man he is, he was more than willing to sell the pts or even zap the guy with high rep pts.

anyway if u want the pts, u can pay him for it. im sure he will consider.
Got money go cheong better lah.....

[DeVegas]

his real name is also not sam leong. sam leong is the name of a road in spore.


It seems like you know the BOSS here very well leh.......can provide more information of the BOSS and enlighten curious people like us or not har? As we are his secret admirer leh.......... :D

[sadfa]

BOSS BOSS....someone say you cheong KTV....PLS VERIFY to clear mis-understanding leh....IF YEs..where is yr FR ..... :D

i didnt say sam leong cheong ktv. horsepower did.
u should quote his post, not mine.

[sadfa]

Got money go cheong better lah.....

true got money, can do many things, including cheonging.
but maybe some people got so much money, they dunno what to spend it on?

anyway sam leong can set up a thread on selling pts by him. he may be able to make money out of it. $10 for 1 pt?

[DeVegas]

maybe they paid for it?

i remember someone trying to auction their nick with many pts. when sam heard of it, being the business man he is, he was more than willing to sell the pts or even zap the guy with high rep pts.

anyway if u want the pts, u can pay him for it. im sure he will consider.

So are you implying there BOSS here trade rep points for money? :eek:

BOSS BOSS, so you are selling rep. points for money arh??? Can tell me what are the price structure like har? As I might want to top up my rep points till 500 and keep my mountain for good.... :D

[Horsepower]

i didnt say sam leong cheong ktv. horsepower did.
u should quote his post, not mine.
Suspect lah because the customers also talk about some web hosting business and the guy whom my gf sit with his name is Sam and owns the business and he migrated to Oz.

I would like to know whether Boss Sam got cheong ktv. :D

[noname123]

i didnt say sam leong cheong ktv. horsepower did.
u should quote his post, not mine.

Aiya...is there any different i quote you or i quote him ....

You like that "push" the blame to horsepower good meh... :D

[silk_magic]

Having a WL is like taking a public transport. If you don't want to share with other then you need to fork out the money to buy the bus or MRT train for your own personal use. If you don't mind sharing, continue to do so, but you will never call it your own.

It also true that if the girl love you enough, she will quit the scene even though you might not meet her earning potential.

[noname123]

Suspect lah because the customers also talk about some web hosting business and the guy whom my gf sit with his name is Sam and owns the business and he migrated to Oz.

I would like to know whether Boss Sam got cheong ktv. :D

SUSPECT SAM LEONG....can tell us you CHEONG KTV BO....horsepower and sadfa and myself VERY VERY EAGER to know leh.... :D

[DeVegas]

anyway sam leong can set up a thread on selling pts by him. he may be able to make money out of it. $10 for 1 pt?

So you are the adviser to the BOSS now har???

But hor $10 for 1 pt seems to look a little ex to me as even if I purchase frequent flyer points from airlines, I will still be able to get some decent points for $10 leh............

BOSS BOSS, can you verify that you have an adviser now for this rep. points selling thingy??? I am dying to know leh......... :rolleyes:

[mark21]

Anybody got (or ever had) wife/gf/mistress working as WL ? Would like to hear the views. Thanks.

HAVING A MISTRESS WORKING AS WL MAKE YOU FEELS:

NEGATIVE ISSUE :
1) WORRIED AND UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING
2) WEAK HEART
3) RESTLESS /MOODY/LOST OF SOUL

POSITIVE ISSUE:
1) GREAT EXCITEMENT
2) ONLY WL CAN ACCEPT AS A MISTRESS (PROVIDED YOU MAINTAIN A SUBSTAIN FEE)
3) SPECIAL TREATMENT & UNDERSTAND YOUR NEED ( OF COURSE SEXUAL NEED)
4) ONCE VERY GOODS ISSUE I OBSERVED THAT WL CAN SENSE YOUR FEELING & BODY LANGUAGES VERY WELL ( MAYBE WL ARE TRAIN IN THAT WAYS TO SATISFIED MEN DESIRES)

BRO HP, UP ME IF MY POINT MAKE SENSE & DO ADD-IN MORE WL ISSUE.

[Horsepower]

Anybody got (or ever had) wife/gf/mistress working as WL ? Would like to hear the views. Thanks.

[Optimus_Prime]

Bro,

Maybe u can tell us what u r feeling rite now.. seeing as u r in the situation urself. Give us a day -to -day account of u and ur gf lah... ur feelings...what u guys did...etc..

I am sure a lot of bros here will be keen to know more...

And very soon...ppl with similar situations will oso share one.

Personally I have tried b4 but in the end...pt3 & pt4 in ur first post DID me in... sighhh... my heart just not BIG enuff to let my gf be shared by others...whether it's work or wat else... :(

BTW... are u in singapore at all ?? Or overseas ??

[Horsepower]

Bro,

Maybe u can tell us what u r feeling rite now.. seeing as u r in the situation urself. Give us a day -to -day account of u and ur gf lah... ur feelings...what u guys did...etc..

I am sure a lot of bros here will be keen to know more...

And very soon...ppl with similar situations will oso share one.

Personally I have tried b4 but in the end...pt3 & pt4 in ur first post DID me in... sighhh... my heart just not BIG enuff to let my gf be shared by others...whether it's work or wat else... :(

BTW... are u in singapore at all ?? Or overseas ??
My terok feelings are over because my gf has gone back. But I do know many cheongsters have similar situation and feelings, especially my buddy who has been encouraged and enlightened by some brudders who have posted their views here. Agree, nobody like their gf (even if part-time) to be touched by others because basically human beings are selfish.

I am in Singapore. Is it because of the time I posted this ? I went to a new joint Sakara KTV at Furama and kanna "electrocuted" by a SYT singer Grace. Immediately came back and posted a FR. Can check under the KTV section.

[groo]

... But I do know many cheongsters have similar situation and feelings, especially my buddy who has been encouraged and enlightened by some brudders who have posted their views here. Agree, nobody like their gf (even if part-time) to be touched by others because basically human beings are selfish....My reservice OC once had a PRC singer and part-time WL as a live-in gf... When they were living together, he restricted her to singing only... But everytime he's on overseas assignments, he suspected her going back to her part-time ECAs... He had a friend to watch over her and confirmed she's still doing part-time...

I remembered during our reservice in Brunei, he couldn't reach her and when he finally did, they had a WW3 squabble right in the centre of the long-house camp... In the end, he had a heated debate with her... It seemed she had used him only for free lodging and food... She still went about her part-time ECAs to earn enough money so she can scoot out of Singapore and have a better life back in China...

Anyways, I've seen enough of all these PRC gals to avoid them like the plague... To those bros who are involved with PRC gals and they turn out good, all the best to you ppl.... :p

[scuk3046]

Bro PH, my experience doesn't exactly fit the bill... but sorta similar...
was in GL one nite n noticed this PRC at the junction between fragrance n H81, seemed platable so went up to ask for the price, she replied saying $80.
well... although reasonable, but i wasn't so much of a fragrance person as i had a impression that girls along that stretch were of a lower calibre (looks n body wise) i declined n went on to my usual spot near H81 orchid hoping for a better catch. but didn't know wtf was wrong that day... apparently the PRC shares in the MMCI were doing badly.... the available stock were of really bad standard... so i decided to head back to fragrance for the $80 bonk.

she was pretty shy, went on to tcss a little, found out that she was here for the first time... went on to business after that halfway thru realised tat she was damn tensed n her pussy damn tight.. muscles contract too much... so i stopped the bonking n started talking to her, she told me that she came here because her dad ran into some sorta financial crisis n stuff like that... yada yada, she said she was from a relatively well to do family n it was really hard on her to work in this line, being the nice guy :D i was, i extended another hr, consoled her n sweet talk her abit before continuing wif the bonk, she told me she only bonked six times in her entire life n i was her seventh. That day, went hm quite happy... first time being in the top ten list, n in addition she finished the bonk even though her auntie came.. after the bonk i realised got blood..

Didn't know for whichever reason, i started getting addicted to her, patronized her whenever i had the chance to, spent many sessions just talking n often extending the hrs draining my vitamin M drastically. i even bought food for her n booked her for 2 hrs juz for pure makaning purposes. probably because kungfu not enuff n plus her sweet talk n compassion for the plight.

But as time went by, i realised that her stories had little flaws here n dere, n as we got familiar with each other things started to leak, found out that she used to gamble n ran into debts so her visit here was partly to clear debts n also for the fast buck.
Apparently she got 3 other guys really into her, offering her money, booking her for whole nights n stuff like that. she told me that one guy offered her $20k n the exchange condition was that she stopped working. But i would prefer to think that the conditions were not so simple. In short, she could really sweet talk people n play ppl's emotions.

My advice would be to stay away, i'm considered lucky cos i have this thing against gambling, so her gambling addiction was a huge turnoff for me, but i really worry for the 3 other guys, one of them even proposed to her, imagine having an avid gambler as a wife, my mom has a gambling addiction, n trust me, having a gambler in the family isn't at all heart warming.

Juz my 2 cents, try not to get too involved unless you r absolutely sure that you will NEVER regret your choice, but den again, if you're juz in for a short sweet honeymoon relationship, wad's a little cash for loads of sweet talk, cuddling n sex :D

[Horsepower]

My reservice OC once had a PRC singer and part-time WL as a live-in gf...

... It seemed she had used him only for free lodging and food... She still went about her part-time ECAs to earn enough money so she can scoot out of Singapore and have a better life back in China...

Anyways, I've seen enough of all these PRC gals to avoid them like the plague... To those bros who are involved with PRC gals and they turn out good, all the best to you ppl.... :p
Yeah. Generally most of them will not commit fully to 1 person, tho' there are exceptions. And they will "steal makan" to earn more cash to buy houses back home. I know a WL who owns a block of 20+ apartments to collect rent, and still doing WL work.

[hoodlum]

Well, I am in a similar situation now...

End of the day, their dream is to make enough money for their future, but it may not include you in the picture.

Just my experience and opinions

Bru, you already have the answer. Let go of her and move on.

hoodlum

[Malaysian Datuk]

Having a WL is like taking a public transport. If you don't want to share with other then you need to fork out the money to buy the bus or MRT train for your own personal use. If you don't mind sharing, continue to do so, but you will never call it your own.I agree bro....WL is like public transport but more liken to a taxi though, you can flag it on the street, you can call for advance booking, you can even book whole day. But at the end of the day the taxi will go back to 'plying' the road once you dun want/cannot afford/not free to sit. You can do the next best thing and go thru the hassle to become a 'taxi driver'....this way you can have the taxi to yourself but you will have to 'take on' passengers to help you subsidise 'running/maintainance' costs. Finally for those who can afford it, you can 'buy' the taxi, take it off the roads and you can keep it at home for you own exclusive personal use....but then again who in the right mind will buy a taxi for personal use? You be far better off with a car.......even COE one also better.

[BigHEAD]

tis is really experience words :)

maybe he know that it is very pity to fall in love with WL ;)

[Hasa Sas]

I agree bro....WL is like public transport but more liken to a taxi though, you can flag it on the street, you can call for advance booking, you can even book whole day. But at the end of the day the taxi will go back to 'plying' the road once you dun want/cannot afford/not free to sit. You can do the next best thing and go thru the hassle to become a 'taxi driver'....this way you can have the taxi to yourself but you will have to 'take on' passengers to help you subsidise 'running/maintainance' costs. Finally for those who can afford it, you can 'buy' the taxi, take it off the roads and you can keep it at home for you own exclusive personal use....but then again who in the right mind will buy a taxi for personal use? You be far better off with a car.......even COE one also better.

Hi bro Datuk....thks u give me another insight on issue regard WLs

good :) cheers

[Richard L]

Juz my 2 cents, try not to get too involved unless you r absolutely sure that you will NEVER regret your choice, but den again, if you're juz in for a short sweet honeymoon relationship, wad's a little cash for loads of sweet talk, cuddling n sex :D

Brother, never ever get involve with PRC WL. No chance at all. They are too good in acting. Don't be a fool. I had experienced it before. May I remind fellow brothers in Chinese as follows: (Pardon me to write in Chinese, as I find it more appropriate when dealing with PRC womon....)

兄 弟 们 要 记 住 ：在 外 玩 女 人，再 有 經 驗、也 要 時 時 提 醒 自 己 要 小 心 謹 慎，不 要 踩 進 中 国 龙 女 的 溫 柔 陷 阱. -- 踩 進 去 就 很 難 拔 出 來 ..........就 好 相 吸 毒 者一 樣，絕 對 不 會 承 認 自 己 吸 毒，什 麼 東 西 都 敢 做，六 親 不 認，连 拋 妻 棄 子 也 在 所 不 惜，因 為 靈 魂 早 已 經 送 給 中 国 龙 女，任 她 主 宰……

講 難 聽 些 的 話，中 国 龙 女 不 是 你 專 用 的〝愛 人〞，是 兄 弟 们 共 用 的〝妓 女〞,”婊 子” 而 已。

中 国 女 人 长 的 再 漂 亮、再 性 感， 床 上 功 夫 再 好.......只 代 表 龙 女 專 業 程 度 很 夠 ，很 敬 業 罷 了！要 记 住 ：小 龙 女 睡 了 你 之 后 会 睡 伯 伯 ，睡 過 伯 伯 会 睡 老 外。 她 投 資 不 大 收 入 快 ，兩 腿 一 夾 幾 百 塊 。賣 過 以 後 還 可 以 賣，用 水 一 洗 接 著 賣， 反 復 使 用 無 大 礙 。 請 問 什 麼 東 西 不 用 本 钱 可 以 不 断 的 使 用，不 断 的 賣？

小 龙 女 如 果 床 上 功 夫 不 好， 如 何 能 让 兄 弟 们 覺 得 特 別 爽？為 何 特 別 爽，原 因 很 多，大 家 知 到 就 好. 兄 弟 们 要 记 住 ：小 龙 女 床 上 功 夫 越 好，越 投 入 在 床 上，嬌 聲 嬌 氣， 大 展 媚 功，收 入 就 越 高。 她 演 一 場 戲，你 己 经 入 迷 ，不 能 清 醒。 兄 弟 们 如 果 越 投 入，就 没 心 工 作，開 始 心 神 不 寧，天 天 想 她, 沈 淪 到 荒 淫 無 度, 什 麼 錢 都 敢 亂 花 。

你 每 月 做 愛 的 次 數，可 能 不 到 她 的 1/5。中 国 女 人 一 天 做 愛5 －6次， 一 个 月 跟 几 百 个 男 人 做 愛， 一 年 被 几 千 个 男 人 “干” 过， 是 很 正 常 的。 請 問 ：值 得 对 她 好，与 她 结 分 生 子， 对 她 真 心 吗?.............

[sg_boytoy]

Working Lady cannot be made girlfriend lah, fuck and forget. Thsi is not Hong Kong gangster movie where you can hero hero and have such girlfriends in real life. Get real! :D

[thaivisitor]

Anybody got (or ever had) wife/gf/mistress working as WL ? Would like to hear the views. Thanks.
In my humble opinion, I think it is ridiculous to have a GF (meaning serious one) or wife working as a WL. OK for mistress, as mistress are for the purpose of sex only.

It's understandable if one falls in love with a WL as afterall, she is only human, and so are we.

But once both of you have become BF/GF or husband and wives, I cannot see any reason whatsoever that the guy can allow the girl to work as a WL.

If that being the case, it means that the guy is OK and can accept if his Singaporean GF/wife who was not a WL, decides to become one for whatever reasons. It means that the guy is OK and can accept if his sister who have a husband, decides to become a WL for whatever reasons or for that matter his mum?

We condemn others whom we don't know, like Thai men, living off the imorral earnings of their wives, and yet we allow the girl whom we profess to love to work as a WL? What kind of a man is that?

My 2 cents worth.
thaivisitor

[simnon]

Brother, never ever get involve with PRC WL. No chance at all. They are too good in acting. Don't be a fool. I had experienced it before. May I remind fellow brothers in Chinese as follows: (Pardon me to write in Chinese, as I find it more appropriate when dealing with PRC womon....)

兄 弟 们 如 果 越 投 入，就 没 心 工 作，開 始 心 神 不 寧，天 天 想 她, 沈 淪 到 荒 淫 無 度, 什 麼 錢 都 敢 亂 花 。

你 每 月 做 愛 的 次 數，可 能 不 到 她 的 1/5。中 国 女 人 一 天 做 愛5 －6次， 一 个 月 跟 几 百 个 男 人 做 愛， 一 年 被 几 千 个 男 人 “干” 过， 是 很 正 常 的。 請 問 ：值 得 对 她 好，与 她 结 分 生 子， 对 她 真 心 吗?.............

This chinese one is written by a taiwanese in one of the forum.
Well said, I am currently 心 神 不 寧 天 天 想 她 and 錢 亂 花.
Now she is asking me to marry her so that she can continue to stay here.
Confused but hopefully this will come to the end when she leave this month.
It is difficult to have a happy ending after all with a WL and I am coming to grip with the reality of life.
Bring her out for lunch, met a few of her KTV clients, go shopping at malls also meet her clients, etc etc.

[Richard L]

Bro., Do U know how many PRC in China? 1.3 billion. To be exact in figure 1,300,000,000. Assume half of them are PRC women, u have 650,000,000 PRC women in China. Now due to different in per capital income between PRC and Singapore, I believe majority of the PRC would like to be Fl in Singapore. Once they become Fl for life they will become Fl. Let us assume that ONLY 10% of the PRC women become FL ( 1 out of 10 PRC women). U would have a figure of 65,000,000. My god ! 65 million of conservative PRC Fl in China !....This figure is very very conservative. What if there are more than 30% become Fl?? The figure is even shocking U know. Now let compare Singapore and Malaysia. We have 4 million population in Singapore and 23 million population in Malaysia. Out of 4 million, assume 1 million are strong eligible men in Singapore and Malaysia 23 million, 24% are chinese: 5.52 million, say 2 million are eligible men. In total we could have 3 million of eligible men (3,000,000) in both Singapore and Malaysia. Woo.. 65 million vs 3 million, U would have at least 1 local man vs 21 prc fl.....In nut shell, fuck until your next life, there are still plenty of PRC Fl supply in the market. Just how many can u take as 'wife' ??? :)....worth it or not???

[Horsepower]

In my humble opinion, I think it is ridiculous to have a GF (meaning serious one) or wife working as a WL. OK for mistress, as mistress are for the purpose of sex only.............
Very good point bro. I guess we all know how to avoid these pitfalls when we go out to play. But when that tugging feeling strike us (whether WL or not), it's really hard to avoid.

[sg_boytoy]

Bro Horsepower, i agree, cannot get emotional with WL, consequences are beyond our imagination!

To all bros out there, when you start to invest with your heart, be prepared for more than just a broken heart! I am a fucking poet today sia!

Up my points man! ke ke ke :D

[Richard L]

Now she is asking me to marry her so that she can continue to stay here. Confused but hopefully this will come to the end when she leave this month

Bro. when she ask U to marry her, U should ask her:
我 们 “跑 吧 孩 子”有 一 双 烂 靴 子，
被 全 天 下 男 人 “穿” 过 后，
很 脏 ！ 可 能 有 病 毒 ！
你 要 不 要 “穿” 呀 ？

[simnon]

Hi ! Bro

Thanks for the advice.
I will put an end to this "relationship" when she leave this evening for china.

Cheers

Bro. when she ask U to marry her, U should ask her:
我 们 “跑 吧 孩 子”有 一 双 烂 靴 子，
被 全 天 下 男 人 “穿” 过 后，
很 脏 ！ 可 能 有 病 毒 ！
你 要 不 要 “穿” 呀 ？

[chikok]

Hi ! Bro

Thanks for the advice.
I will put an end to this "relationship" when she leave this evening for china.

Cheers

Try not to send her off at the airport leh.
Wait she cry, you cry , money fly :D

[Hasa Sas]

Try not to send her off at the airport leh.
Wait she cry, you cry , money fly :D

understandable....men also tends to go soft hearted when
this happened.... :o

[simnon]

Hi !

Pick her up for lunch, help her to pack, went to east coast mcdonald for sundaes and then send her to airport.
On the way to airport, told her that I would either be in touch with her or end this "relationship". She kept quiet for a while and when she took her luggage from my car, she show me hand signal to call her.
I guess she understand my intention.
As for $$$, so far spent close to $15k for a period of 6 months and I did not pass her any money although she hinted that she need some small change (couple of hundreds )..


Try not to send her off at the airport leh.
Wait she cry, you cry , money fly :D

[Horsepower]

Hi !

Pick her up for lunch, help her to pack, went to east coast mcdonald for sundaes and then send her to airport.
On the way to airport, told her that I would either be in touch with her or end this "relationship". She kept quiet for a while and when she took her luggage from my car, she show me hand signal to call her.
I guess she understand my intention.
As for $$$, so far spent close to $15k for a period of 6 months and I did not pass her any money although she hinted that she need some small change (couple of hundreds )..
A familiar experience I think many cheongsters can identify.

[chikok]

Hi !

On the way to airport, told her that I would either be in touch with her or end this "relationship". She kept quiet for a while and when she took her luggage from my car, she show me hand signal to call her.
I guess she understand my intention.


Will you call her???
Just out of curiosity.

[simnon]

Hi ! Bro

I will not call her as I need to put her out of my life.
I still have the videos of her and our love making for memories.

Cheers

Will you call her???
Just out of curiosity.

[Richard L]

Hi !
Pick her up for lunch, help her to pack, went to east coast mcdonald for sundaes and then send her to airport.
On the way to airport, told her that I would either be in touch with her or end this "relationship". She kept quiet for a while and when she took her luggage from my car, she show me hand signal to call her.
I guess she understand my intention.
As for $$$, so far spent close to $15k for a period of 6 months and I did not pass her any money although she hinted that she need some small change (couple of hundreds )..

Wah Bro. steady leh :) Look like our old movie "script" of 演 一 場 精 采 的
“熱 淚” 戲 do not happen leh. I think other brothers quite disappointed because she didn't act according to the "script". Anyway,
你 （包 括 我）犯 了
全 天 下 男 人
都 会 犯 的 错 ！
成 龙 大 哥 说 的 。。。。Cheers !

[Horsepower]

Hi ! Bro

I will not call her as I need to put her out of my life.
I still have the videos of her and our love making for memories.

Cheers
The videos will definitely make you think of her and call her.

[Richard L]

told her that I would either be in touch with her or end this "relationship".

On second look, the message not very clear leh...."either or" type.
唉，I think U are a bit “soft-heart”。 心 太 软 ！That is our major weakness. We must overcome this.
狠 下 心 来， 一 刀 俩 断 ！！
要 记 住 ：
中 国 来 的 女 人 可 不 是 什 么 良 家 婦 女。。。。
什 么 儒 家 的 三 从 四 德，
四 书 五 经 ( 礼 、 义 、 廉 、 耻 )
对 中 国 女 人 来 說， 都 是 放 屁 ！！
要 明 白 ：
中 国 女 人
一 日 為 “雞” ，終 生 是 “雞” 的 道 理 ！

[chikok]

要 明 白 ：
中 国 女 人
一 日 為 “雞” ，終 生 是 “雞” 的 道 理 ！[/SIZE]


I very much agree on this sentence. After they earn the easy money, they will find it very hard to work normal jobs. So they will try to find a rich man to support them, if cannot find, then continue working lor.

[evo3]

In my persoanl opinon I feel that some bros mentioned here are true and some are not really. In usual cases, PRC are here to make fast money and go home to do what they like. But very rare we can see PRC who really put their true feeling on a guy. Those who really have feeling for the guy she love will eventually indirectly force the guy to married her (if the guy is not married than is ok, but what if the guy is married than he will be in a very difficult position to decide what to do).
I have a very close friend who is married and at the same time he also have a very close girl friend (works in KTV) who is from Msia. Both of them have a very close feel to each other. The girl know the guy is married and she also knows the guy love his family well and at the same time this guy is really serious about his girl friend. The guy cannot tell his wife that he love another girl outside. This guy want to have both of them, as he cant let go either party. His wife does not knows anything about this. As for this girl friend, she dont seem to be interested whether the guy wife know or dont know. His girl friend is a very simple girl, all she need is some one to be considerate, caring and love her because she does not have all these in the past. So the question is how should this guy going to handle this 2 ladies. Just carry on as per normal like before. Or take only one :confused:

[Horsepower]

So the question is how should this guy going to handle this 2 ladies. Just carry on as per normal like before. Or take only one :confused:
The basic fundamental question is does your friend willing to divorce the wife and able to accept a WL as wife ?
Maybe he convert to Muslim so can take up to 4 wives .... :D

[evo3]

The question is this guy wife dont ask him where he go and he had been going out almost every nite. Their relationship is still very good term, the wife had suspected but never ask him, according to what i heard as long as the guy take care of the family well, she will not bother what he do outside, but also the guy must not go around fooling with so many woman, but only take one. Dont know his wife is joking or serious. For the g/f she is not interested in any status, but just want to get a caring and considerate guy to accompany her.

[Richard L]

Read this headline....
Hot News | Weekend, June 18, 2005
Victim's supervisor nabbed in Kallang body parts case

With Singaporeans reeling at the gory details of the discovery of body parts along the banks of the Kallang River on Thursday, police moved in on the murder suspect and made an arrest less than 24 hours later.

Even without the complete body — the search is still on for the head, calves and feet — the police managed to identify the victim as Miss Liu Hong Mei, a 22-year-old Chinese National who has been working here as a production operator since 2003.

At 8.30pm on Thursday night, the police traced the suspect, Miss Liu's supervisor, to the Serangoon North factory where they both worked.

The 50-year-old Chinese Singaporean was brought in for questioning and arrested at 6am the following morning.

Green translucent plastic bags, similar to those used to wrap the body parts found in two boxes at Kallang Riverside Park, were seized from his Geylang flat.

The suspect will be charged in court on Saturday for murder, an offence which carries the death penalty.

Police also confirmed that the victim, who was from Changchun City in China's Jilin province, was murdered on Wednesday.

Miss Liu had a valid work permit and had lived in a rented flat here. No missing persons' report was filed on her before her dismembered body was found. Her family in China has been informed of her death.

Said Deputy Superintendent Adrian Quek of the CID: "The suspect has briefly indicated to us where he disposed of the rest of the body, but it's not near the area where the first batch he disposed of the first batch." DSP Quek added that he believed the suspect did not have an accomplice.

Investigators are still verifying where and how the murder took place. A post-mortem is being conducted.

The gruesome murder was uncovered on Thursday morning when a cleaner stumbled upon the lower half of Ms Liu's body, severed at the knee and pelvic joints, in a brown cardboard box along the banks of Kallang River.

Police later found the upper torso of the body in another box on the opposite bank. — Lee U-Wen
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Bro.simnon. U don’t want to end up like the “50-year-old Chinese Singaporean” uncle right? Cut it off now!! Look at what happen to the uncle… Apparently he has “踩 進 中 国 龙 女 的 溫 柔 陷 阱. “ “很 難 拔 出 來 ..........” “什 麼 東 西 都 敢 做…。”包 括 把 她 分 尸。。。。What has that 22-year-old PRC done to deserve that? U know I know lah…Cheat on the “50-year-old Uncle”….”Fuck around with other men loh…” he got angry…lost control…Don’t have proper anger management loh…PRC woman only mah…why take it so serious?? Fuck and Forget lah! Pity that he cann’t control himself…I guess the uncle must have sinked too deeply into it…..at his age the CPF saving is enough for his living…Money is not an issue….it is the PRC girl lah….Told U people already (Remember by hard):
唉，
中 国 女 人 长 的 再 年 轻，再 漂 亮、再 性 感， 床 上 功 夫 再 好.......只 代 表 龙 女 專 業 程 度 很 夠 ，很 敬 業 罷 了！中 国 女 人 不 是 你 專 用 的〝愛 人〞，是 兄 弟 们 共 用 的〝妓 女〞,”婊 子” 而 已。何 必 太 认 真 ？“干” 过 后 把 她 给 忘 了 ！ 千 万 不 要 踩 進 去。。。玩 玩 就 好 ！
Somehow I don’t understand, SM Lee kena coned by the Chinese in SUZHOU already…why still open up for these PRC to enter? This is a very very heavy social cost to pay leh…seeing silly Singaporean man collapsed one after another……sad.... :(

[simnon]

Kind of miss her oredi, but will definitely not called her up.
The videos is more for memories.

The videos will definitely make you think of her and call her.

[simnon]

[QUOTE=Richard L]================================================== ===
Bro.simnon. U don’t want to end up like the “50-year-old Chinese Singaporean” uncle right? Cut it off now!! Look at what happen to the uncle… Apparently he has [SIZE=5QUOTE]

Hi ! Bro Richard

Thanks for the advice.
Too bad, I do not have the CPF monies toblow as I am at least 20 years from the CPF withdrawal age.
Cutting off needs time and hopefully time will wash away the link plus self control on myself.

I hope you have not be smitten by this PRC fever.
Not only sillyporeans, but old malaysian men were conned too in the small towns like sitiawan, one of my best friend uncle in his 50s was conned of his life savings and lost his family in the process.

Cheers

[sri lanang]

Richard, well say! Take up must be able to put down.if not you will not have any hand to take other important things.

Simnon, you must face it and not to avoid her. That will make you to miss her more. What is working is actually from your brain. If you try to forget her, you think of her more. It is only to accept it and take it as a fact then you can get through. Why I know, b'cos I was so once. I had a HC girl b4 many years back. She even say that she can support me when I told her that I no money. After think it through, I decide not to b'cos I know I cannot share my girl with others. What if she got baby, whose baby does it belong then???
When you no more the guy she like then what are you then. So fuck it, if you need her, go see her and fuck her, after that remember to pay her the money, that is to show her that she do not belong to you any more. If you continue to get free, then you will feel that you owe her. therefore please clear your debt.
:D

P.S.: In this world there is no free sex, if there is, I am still finding! ;)

[simnon]

Hi ! Bro

Thanks for the advice.
Well, I have been paying for every fuck that I had with her, although she always said pay next time lah even when I visited her three times in china.
No free meal taken so far and when I had some small bonuses, paid her a bit more too.
Which is why she always tell me that I am a smart man, do not know the game ???

So fuck it, if you need her, go see her and fuck her, after that remember to pay her the money, that is to show her that she do not belong to you any more. If you continue to get free, then you will feel that you owe her. therefore please clear your debt.
:D

P.S.: In this world there is no free sex, if there is, I am still finding! ;)

[Hasa Sas]

P.S.: In this world there is no free sex, if there is, I am still finding! ;)

Yes ,you are absolutely correct. If one expect to get free sex from a WL,he will end up paying more at the end of the day because you would have difficulties to reject her request in term of financial or emotional when the days come...pay for what is due.
serious consequences can be undesirable :cool:

[Richard L]

I have been paying for every fuck that I had with her, although she always said pay next time lah even when I visited her three times in china.

hmm..., that remind me the bitch that I had parted with. I paid her every single fuck that I had with her....In fact she got more than what is required.....some $20k and many more...Hope that she appreciate it. I know it is difficult to part with someone that U care once....that U once feel sorry for. But let's get real, my life have to go on...She know it is impossible for me to marry a fl. She know she is not right for me eventhough I may be good on bed with her. Anyway, I do not own her anything now....I don't even feel guilty when I parted with her....Hope all the best to her as fl....and take care!

I even told my wife about us and she was shocked at first. I apologised to her for overlooked small little details of life in our relationship, not because I didn't love her any more. I said I had commited a mistake that every man on earth would commit. That night she held me tight...for fear that she would lose me again. sign !...I held her in my arms. I promised to her that "till dead it does us apart"....she looked at me, with real tear in her eye. I observed the hurt in her eye. I could never forget that look in her face. Till now..... I woke up...as happy man as before sending children to school....and I think She has forgiven me :) For the woman who has married and trusted me for the past 15 years of marriage...though "thick and thin" ...I only have this to say: I will change from now on...trust me. I know what is right for me :)

[CharlieBrown]

For the woman who has married and trusted me for the past 15 years of marriage...though "thick and thin" ...I only have this to say: I will change from now on...trust me. I know what is right for me :)
Wow bro............ good for you then!

Just remember it's fate that brought the 2 of you together, the rest is up to the both of you liao.

As for your encounter, it's fate that both of you met, but splitted due to the choices (& incidents) made.

Cheers!

[simnon]

Hi ! Bro Richard

It takes time and effort to change.

As for me, still a bachelor and looking for the balance of my life.
This is the first time I fell so deep into this relationship and lost almost myself.




...I only have this to say: I will change from now on...trust me. I know what is right for me :)

[thaivisitor]

Kind of miss her oredi, but will definitely not called her up.
The videos is more for memories.
Bro, follow your heart, not the advises here.

Basically, we bros advise based on what we perceived the relationship to be , or what generally happens in most such relationship.

But, only you know best. Whether your relationship with her is actually superficial or deeper than that, so what if it's going to cost you some money to find out?

I remembered a friend who has this relationship with a Thai WL. All actions, hints, etc points that the guy should forget about the girl and carry on with his life when the girl goes back. She has MANY tiraks and has been digging a lot of money from him.

Well, after having his heart yearns for the girl for quite sometime, the guy finally call the girl, take a trip up, and continued with the relationship. He doesn't mind if he's being cheated by the girl as it's only money and that, you can always earn back. Today, the guy is happily married with the girl with a kid too.

Of course, I also have friends who took the same step and eventually got ripped off. At least they know they were ripped off.

In your case, how sure are you that you will be ripped off? Also girls will ripped off even BFs, but they will know how to look after and protect the family finances when they are married.

My 2 cents worth
thaivisitor

[Richard L]

It takes time and effort to change.

唉，
吸 毒 的 人， 往 往 都 不 会 對 外 承 認 自 己 吸 毒。很 容 易 就 滿 口 謊 言，口 口 声 声 给 自 己 一 大 堆 的 借 口。。。什 么 慢 慢 来。。我 会 慢 慢 的 把 “毒 瘾” 给 戒 了。。。给 我 一 点 时 间。。。我 脑 子 可 以 控 制 的 ！。。。放 心 好 了。。。於 是 过 了 不 久，“毒 瘾” 又 来 了。。。又 发 作 了。。。。身 体 緩 緩 下 沈。 心、靈 都 很 爽，呈 現 極 樂 狀 態。。。 然 后 就 無 法 控 制， “很 難 拔 出 來 ..........什 麼 東 西 都 敢 做…“
講 難 聽 些 的 話，我 还 没 见 过 那 个 吸 毒 的 人 可 以 慢 慢 的 把 “毒 瘾” 给 戒 了。。。。“吸 毒“ 是 可 以 控 制 的 吗 ？“毒 瘾” 是 可 以 慢 慢 戒 的 吗 ？

[yanki]

I even told my wife about us and she was shocked at first. I apologised to her for overlooked small little details of life in our relationship, not because I didn't love her any more. I said I had commited a mistake that every man on earth would commit. That night she held me tight...for fear that she would lose me again. sign !...I held her in my arms. I promised to her that "till dead it does us apart"....she looked at me, with real tear in her eye. I observed the hurt in her eye. I could never forget that look in her face. Till now..... I woke up...as happy man as before sending children to school....and I think She has forgiven me :) For the woman who has married and trusted me for the past 15 years of marriage...though "thick and thin" ...I only have this to say: I will change from now on...trust me. I know what is right for me :)[/QUOTE]


an important lesson for us here. great that u still have your wife and children.

cheers

[Ah Dez]

Hi All, I am new here. This is my first new thread so if I for some reasons flout the regulations here "qing duo duo bao han, duo duo zhi jiao".

I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?


seriously, would a proper GF, that u plan to marry...... you still ask her to be in this line?

[Horsepower]

seriously, would a proper GF, that u plan to marry...... you still ask her to be in this line?
No. She gone back liao. But some of my frens and many here struggling....

[Ah Dez]

No. She gone back liao. But some of my frens and many here struggling....

as i said..... noone in a proper mind, would as his WIFE to be a pro......... maybe KTV girl, ok... but pro is a totoal different ball game

[elmoboy]

hmm..., that remind me the bitch that I had parted with. I paid her every single fuck that I had with her....In fact she got more than what is required.....some $20k and many more...Hope that she appreciate it. I know it is difficult to part with someone that U care once....that U once feel sorry for. But let's get real, my life have to go on...She know it is impossible for me to marry a fl. She know she is not right for me eventhough I may be good on bed with her. Anyway, I do not own her anything now....I don't even feel guilty when I parted with her....Hope all the best to her as fl....and take care!

I even told my wife about us and she was shocked at first. I apologised to her for overlooked small little details of life in our relationship, not because I didn't love her any more. I said I had commited a mistake that every man on earth would commit. That night she held me tight...for fear that she would lose me again. sign !...I held her in my arms. I promised to her that "till dead it does us apart"....she looked at me, with real tear in her eye. I observed the hurt in her eye. I could never forget that look in her face. Till now..... I woke up...as happy man as before sending children to school....and I think She has forgiven me :) For the woman who has married and trusted me for the past 15 years of marriage...though "thick and thin" ...I only have this to say: I will change from now on...trust me. I know what is right for me :)


bro i salute u..that u tell yr wife.. this show u loves yr wife too.. i also envy that u have such a understanding wife who loves u so much...That parcels of life, who nv make mistakes... To all those senior bro chiongster who is "deep" with PRC WL.. better becareful, their acting skill is even better then MEDIACOCK actresses.. Do not play with yr heart but yr dicky and dun break up yr family. Not worth..

[Richard L]

Pardon me, manage to crack down the PRC bitch whereabout in China with the help of my Gong An's friends and political contact in China. She has to pay the money loaned or else face consequences...no way out. This is to serve a good lesson to those PRC bitch with intention to cheat on local man...

[NY Supporter]

Hi All, I am new here. This is my first new thread so if I for some reasons flout the regulations here "qing duo duo bao han, duo duo zhi jiao".

I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?

I used to have a gf but have gone back. She's quite loyal and always contactable and so far never agree to go out makan with any customer (well, cannot be 100% sure and mark all the time. Even Peter Cech also concede goals :D ) I struggle with the above feelings. I am only a salary man so I can never sponsor more than her potential income. So gotta let her work. Afterall, they are here to make money right ?

Enjoy while you can, don't think too much u will see light after a while

[thaivisitor]

Pardon me, manage to crack down the PRC bitch whereabout in China with the help of my Gong An's friends and political contact in China. She has to pay the money loaned or else face consequences...no way out. This is to serve a good lesson to those PRC bitch with intention to cheat on local man...
And if she can't pay the loan and the consequences involved her getting beaten, disfigured, raped by the lender's people or forced into prostitution in China, would such consequences commensurate the amount she has so-called cheated out of a local man?

Just wondering how far your pleasure or happiness go or how much your hatred go for this "PRC bitch" to be "punished"?

thaivisitor

[HuiGe3387]

Just wondering how far your pleasure or happiness go or how much your hatred go for this "PRC bitch" to be "punished"?

thaivisitor
Agree. It only serves as a outlet to vent out your anger for being stupid (no offence intended). I know 1 TAM ger con a guy, very nice to him, gf feeling and made him give her $30K for some bullshit business. Then told him the business fail.

Question : Will we pay someone $30K to someone in the logical sense without the due diligence ? I will ask for business plan, revenue forecast, etc etc.

[Castrol]

This is to serve a good lesson to those PRC bitch with intention to cheat on local man...

she cheated you? :confused:

[thaivisitor]

Agree. It only serves as a outlet to vent out your anger for being stupid (no offence intended). I know 1 TAM ger con a guy, very nice to him, gf feeling and made him give her $30K for some bullshit business. Then told him the business fail.

Question : Will we pay someone $30K to someone in the logical sense without the due diligence ? I will ask for business plan, revenue forecast, etc etc.
I asked because I've seen a similar situation whereby a friend got involved with a filippine FL. Spend quite a lot of money on her and gave her something like S$10K for the girl to pay her loan and be free. The money is no problem to him as he's quite well off. Problem is the girl didn't pay her loan and instead suddenly went back and accordingly tried to do some biz with her brother.

My friend was mad and felt cheated. He also brought the matter up to his wife, having realised this and that. Wife was pregnant at that time, forgave him and life went on. Wherever he talks about the girl, he would used words like "slut", "bitch", etc, etc.

Few months went by, the filippine girl's brother contacted my friend, telling him the girl is in big trouble from the loansharks and requested for him to help. Of course my friend "no hue" and even scolded the brother, thinking they trying to con him again. Moreover, he felt the girl deserved what's coming for her and cursed her for cheating him.

Life than went on for my friend. One day, while he was at his usual drinking joint (where he met the girl), and was chatting with other girls, when he discovered that his ex-girl has acid splashed over her face and body and nearly lost her life. Now disfigured and blind, and still needed treatment for the burns on her body too.

My friend was "silenced", filled with deep remorse and felt that eventhough she has cheated him, he could have prevented her situation. Spoke to his wife and with another friend, flew to the Philippines to see how he could helped, maybe pay hospital bill or whatever and you know what?

The girl and her family extended their hospitality to him but rejected and would not even accept a single cent from him. Accordingly, the girl told him that she's no beggar and since he was not willing to help in the first place, why even bother to come down.

I think this unfortunate incident or event left a very deep impression in my friend.

So the question I asked is, deep in our hearts, how much do we hate the girls that cheated us and would like them to face whatever consequences or downfalls for cheating us?

thaivisitor

[wirelessdick]

Guys,
Would you do your WL gf RAW? How about risk of getting STD/HIV from her?
Let alone the emotional risk, there are health risks.

A lot of old uncles, farmers are being cheated in small towns across msia! They have not cheong before in their lives. So get cheated easily.

It is not so easy for experienced cheongsters to be cheated, imo. To us, they are just another pussy. And to them, we are just another dick.

[HuiGe3387]

Some rich buayas tactics to go after the ktv WLs is buying gifts for them like watches, handhphones, etc. Some even use it as a bait to get close to the hard-to-get ones (probably got bf liao) to bed them.

My friend's WL gf did get handphones, electronic dictionary, cough mixture from the so called customers. Not that he cannot afford, but the gf feels that since it's free gifts from the suckers, why not take it as long as she remain loyal. But it always give that sour feeling.....

Anybody got this experience ?

[Horsepower]

Some rich buayas tactics to go after the ktv WLs is buying gifts for them like watches, handhphones, etc. Some even use it as a bait to get close to the hard-to-get ones (probably got bf liao) to bed them.

My friend's WL gf did get handphones, electronic dictionary, cough mixture from the so called customers. Not that he cannot afford, but the gf feels that since it's free gifts from the suckers, why not take it as long as she remain loyal. But it always give that sour feeling.....

Anybody got this experience ?
In that kind of environment it's a fact of life you gotta accept.

[thaivisitor]

My friend's WL gf did get handphones, electronic dictionary, cough mixture from the so called customers. Not that he cannot afford, but the gf feels that since it's free gifts from the suckers, why not take it as long as she remain loyal. But it always give that sour feeling.....

And who knows your friend's WL gf also have another guy thinking the same as your friend?

Just like every guy thinking the thai WL takes only him as the "real" tirak and everyone else as "false" tirak where actually the WL is playing the same game with everyone.

[Richard L]

Just wondering how far your pleasure or happiness go or how much your hatred go for this "PRC bitch" to be "punished"?

She got tons of money to buy apartments and houses no money to pay debt? 欠 債 還 錢 是 天 經 地 義 的 事...We don't get happiness by punishing these bitch by violet way but has to be forced tp pay up or else they try all sort of excuses to run... Anyway case is closed and matter is put in proper hand to handle!

[LengKia]

And who knows your friend's WL gf also have another guy thinking the same as your friend?

Just like every guy thinking the thai WL takes only him as the "real" tirak and everyone else as "false" tirak where actually the WL is playing the same game with everyone.

well ,sometime it can be a diliemma if the WL never accept your $$$ for bonking. perhaps she is trying to play mind games.... :(
think this is even worst off ..rather to pay for her service

[Horsepower]

well ,sometime it can be a diliemma if the WL never accept your $$$ for bonking. perhaps she is trying to play mind games.... :(
think this is even worst off ..rather to pay for her service
There is always hidden agenda if they don't accept $$$. After all WL is here to earn money.

[simnon]

She is back for 30 days again, although I tried very hard to forget her.
Her call last week Monday from China set me into the sweet memories mode.
Pick her at the airport on Wednesday and had a good chat and off she went to make her bucks..after all they are here for the $$$$

Today had lunch with her and she ask me if I love her, I was dumb at the moment and I said I do not know if it is love or infactuation.

Maybe she do have feelings after all..

I guess I may want to try thaivisitor 's advice and see how things go..

Cheers


Well, after having his heart yearns for the girl for quite sometime, the guy finally call the girl, take a trip up, and continued with the relationship. He doesn't mind if he's being cheated by the girl as it's only money and that, you can always earn back. Today, the guy is happily married with the girl with a kid too.

thaivisitor

[Horsepower]

She is back for 30 days again, although I tried very hard to forget her.
Her call last week Monday from China set me into the sweet memories mode.
Pick her at the airport on Wednesday and had a good chat and off she went to make her bucks..after all they are here for the $$$$

Today had lunch with her and she ask me if I love her, I was dumb at the moment and I said I do not know if it is love or infactuation.

Maybe she do have feelings after all..

I guess I may want to try thaivisitor 's advice and see how things go..

Cheers
What about yourselves bro ? Do you love her ? Not all PRCs all mercenary. Even those here to make money, they are human beings after all. They can love someone. Only thing is whether you can accept a WL as gf or wife ?

[bakah]

My 2 cents...I'd like to do this in a chinese phrases strung together thingy but dunnow how lah so "han yu ping ying" montage hehe.Computer I only now how to play game :p

"ZI GU DUO QING KONG YU HEN,CI HENG MIAN MIAN WU JUE QI" - From time immemorial hate stems from love,there is no end in sight for such hate.
piggy journey to the west

"ZI GU YING XIONG NAN GUO MEI REN GUAN, CHENG QIANG BU DI MEI REN XIAO" - From time immemorial a beauty has always been the bane of heros, castles and walls are no match for a beauty's smile.
the lament of many advisors from the time of kings and emperors

"NIN WO JIE FAN REN NAN MIAN YOU ZHA NIAN" - We are all but mere mortals, such thoughts are inevitable.
lyrics from a song

"WUN SHI JIAN QIN WEI HE WU,ZHI JIAO REN SHENG SI XIANG XU" - Ask the world what is this thing call love that mortals cling to in life and death.
some kongfu novel and movie

"YI QE JIE HONG CHENG,YOU HE XUI QIANG QIU" - All is but dust in the wind, why do you cling on so?
1001 monks be it fiction or real life have said this verse

"MING MING ZHONG BI YOU AN PAI, YI QE SUI YUAN BA" - All is already
planned, let fate run its course
another 1001 monks verse

A thousand years of wisdom are but the wind past your ears.Who can fault you?Who can fault any of us?Your mind is already made up,your heart is long gone.You seek an answer here in SBF.You seek directions.Many have been given here but you see none and you will see none.Only thing you can find and see here is but comfort.The answer is in your heart.All is destined, all is planned let fate run its course.

[simnon]

Guess I need time to sort out my feelings and see how it works to have a WL as a wife in SG as some of my kakis have upped her before.

Thanks

What about yourselves bro ? Do you love her ? Not all PRCs all mercenary. Even those here to make money, they are human beings after all. They can love someone. Only thing is whether you can accept a WL as gf or wife ?

[aaaaaa]

Brother, i also had this type of suituation in shanghai, can advised me?

[dickrick]

Hello Bro, just my two cents worth. If I put myself in your situation, even tho she may say she will be faithful etc. at the back of my mind there will always be a thought that she will be contacted by her ex-customer and one thing leads to another. She may not start anything but innocently she may come across an old favourite and conversation start. This could happen and you have to bear this in mind. Also, since she has "been around" she may make comparisions later on in marriage.
I presume the money issue of you making up for her loss of income has been settled? But anyway, hope I'm wrong if you decide to continue. All the best.

[HuiGe3387]

Guess I need time to sort out my feelings and see how it works to have a WL as a wife in SG as some of my kakis have upped her before.

Thanks
Yeah it's quite awakward when your WL gf has sit with your kakis at ktv, or even got bonked by them. Also quite awkward if your kaki call her to ask her out when she's with you.

[Klown]

It's not awkward... It's downright PAINFUL! But you can see what you are getting into, that's how you met her after all. Unless you can pull her out of this line and be with her all the time, you should be prepared for the worst! If "YOUR" friends call her for her "work"... They're NOT your friends at all!!! Unless of course you didn't tell them you're with her. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, you should know best yourself...

[DNAT]

There is always hidden agenda if they don't accept $$$. After all WL is here to earn money.

I always ask my self: "What is the next best use of the WL's time, if she not here to make money?"

This reality check would prevent us from falling into their traps as well as our own fantasy. Hope it helps.

:D

[sbfpolis]

Just gotta know this WL who is going back soon. Had good bonk and time together, but she start asking me bring her to shopping and so far chalked up quite a lot of bills because she need to buy things back for sister, brother, etc..... I try to steer clear and start asking myself what have I gotten into....

Anybody got this experience ?

[DNAT]

so far chalked up quite a lot of bills because she need to buy things back for sister, brother, etc..... I try to steer clear and start asking myself what have I gotten into....

Anybody got this experience ?

Walking ATM? .. Its common .. :D

[ah bill]

Just gotta know this WL who is going back soon. Had good bonk and time together, but she start asking me bring her to shopping and so far chalked up quite a lot of bills because she need to buy things back for sister, brother, etc..... I try to steer clear and start asking myself what have I gotten into....

Anybody got this experience ?

better dun play play with WLs . Stick to the 3F to be safe

[Horsepower]

Just gotta know this WL who is going back soon. Had good bonk and time together, but she start asking me bring her to shopping and so far chalked up quite a lot of bills because she need to buy things back for sister, brother, etc..... I try to steer clear and start asking myself what have I gotten into....

Anybody got this experience ?
Press F10 and escape ......... :D

[axcel]

Hi ALL

just to share my story, not sure will it be a happy ending, but so far so good.

My current GF is a Hunan PRC and is 31 already, she got into the KTV scene at the age of 28, after being hurt by ex-BF who ran away with a richer girl + family went into financials. before 28 she was just a normal factory QA girl. anyway, she was in the KTV scene for 3 yrs and i met her on her first trip to Singapore in a KTV in 2004 Dec. only knew her for 1 wk and she left, but we made a pact to spend Xmas in SHA as i had business trip there and decided to take leave there. Once there, she took good care of me, and even bought me a Montblanc pen and wallet from the Montblanc shop (i was there to verify), as i used a ballpoint and a wornout wallet. anyway, we did bonk thru out. was feeling that i was falling for her but still told myself to control. anyway, after i left, she would call me in the evenings and after her KTV work at about 2-3am. always from her home. felt very uncomfortable but no choice, as i am in debt and still undecided on the relationship. but this was her way in telling me that she is safe at home and is still truthful. always contactable whenever i call her.

since Lunar new year till now, has been to her family twice and found that after 3 yrs of "work" she contributed 50% to the families 5 rm flat (fully paid). and the parents did not know her past and parents are decent people and not those that sell the daughter kind. both are retired teachers and recieves a pension enough for their livelihood. anyway, after knowing me since dec last year, she quit in May tis year and started to look for normal 9-5 jobs and take up english courses. we spend time with each other every mth in china as my work takes me there regularly. till now, the only $ that i remit to her is for the english course and some spending $$, not more than S$400 a month.

she has come and stayed with me and my parents (I am not married). sometimes she worries that i will remember her past and that she would be a burden due to her education level and that she cannot compare to english speaking singapore girls. i always comfort her as i have seen, experience and tested that she really loves me and willing to leave her "old" job and work normal jobs. even now, we chat during lunchtime and we would chat from 8 - 9 pm on the long distance phone everynite and some times i would even call her at 11pm. as again, always contactable and at home.

we are talking about marraige next yr as she told me that she is no longer young and wants to settle down. she knows i have no assets nor rich and that i have debts to clear, but she just want to marry for love and not $$ and that although $$ is important for marriage but a simple life will do. she is even willing to stay with my parents just to let me have time to save up.

i am comfortable taking the next step as she is not those SYT that might marry and divorce to get PR (she is coming 32 next yr) and that i have no assets or $$ for her to cheat. she could have married people who are rich in china (yah, she's pretty) but she never did as she found it to be wrong. i maybe lucky to have turn her from the dark side and so far, she always puts me first and that if we dont have $$ we would eat simple, but if i have a bit extra, i would still pamper her with clothes although she has cut her spending habits. she has adjusted to life after the dark 3 yrs and i have also accepted her past.

so brothers, any comments to my story and i welcome questions.

just sharing that i might be the lucky one out of a thousand to have found someone in the MOST UNEXPECTED PLACE.

[BlackKnight]

so brothers, any comments to my story and i welcome questions.

er.....not much experience in this area, but i think it looks good. from the way she treats you and also to see her family back home. at least you get to see how the money is being use....

only you will know the answer for it's already there. Just go with the flow but do keep a look for any warning signs bro...

Cheers!

[fun4evergood]

Hi ALL
........................
just sharing that i might be the lucky one out of a thousand to have found someone in the MOST UNEXPECTED PLACE.

I understand your feeling.....I am going thru it also.....Just follow your heart, if u turn your back against her, next time she won't be there again. Anyway, u only live once, no point regretting later.

:)

[HuiGe3387]

Hi ALL

just to share my story, not sure will it be a happy ending, but so far so good.

My current GF is a Hunan PRC ........
just sharing that i might be the lucky one out of a thousand to have found someone in the MOST UNEXPECTED PLACE.
Bro, I think you have made precautions to check that she is genuinely out of the ktv scene and wants to "come up the shore". You must be able to overcome your own obstacles - accept her as what she is and forget the past. Follow your heart if you think she's the one for you.

[axcel]

Hi guys

thanks for the feedback, i do know that we live once, although we would want someone from singapore but fate just dont put it that way.

i only truly believe that if the girl is true to you, she will quit and always ensure thru her actions, subconsiously, that she is trying to improve.

although such girls might always worry that you dont see them up, but i believe the guy must play a part too, provided the guy is true too.

my girl is now working back as a QA and is more stingy than i am now. trying to save every penny just so that i do not need to remit much. she knows that for every dollar i remit would cause stress for me too. she does admit that initially it was hard for her as spending power is no longer there, but she told me that as long as i am true to her and that i dont look down on her on both the past and education, she dont mind to have a simple life.

anyway, it is still works in progress and that it would only be middle of next year before i take the plunge. even then, me intend to have the flat only my name and that certain assets be kept secret until i am super sure.

in the meantime, we are just saving $$ and would still meet up every month for 1-2 weeks since my work takes me to SHA.

[Hasa Sas]

, the only $ that i remit to her is for the english course and some spending $$, not more than S$400 a month.

the long distance phone everynite and some times i would even call her at 11pm. as again, always contactable and at home.

i am comfortable taking the next step as she is not those SYT that might marry and divorce to get PR (she is coming 32 next yr)just sharing that i might be the lucky one out of a thousand to have found someone in the MOST UNEXPECTED PLACE.

bro give it a try although i'm not pessimistic in long distance relationship
esp with a ex-WLs. No offend just sharing my thought.
I agree once a lady reached 30s, she is always eager to get settle down.
More mature in their thinking....got to know a FL age 26) who mentioned to me about getting married...i told her that i will only consider if she is above 30..haha...put a complete stop for her to query further.

Yours relationship looks good from my point of view...wish u good luck

cheers :)

[dickrick]

Hello Bro Axcel, going by what you say, sounds like you have a genuine thing going down here.
As other bros have pointed out, once they reach the "magic" age of 30 they tend to see reality. Money is still important but it becomes secondary.
Personally, I'll go for it. Best of luck

[taurus75]

bro give it a try although i'm not pessimistic in long distance relationship
esp with a ex-WLs. No offend just sharing my thought.
I agree once a lady reached 30s, she is always eager to get settle down.
More mature in their thinking....got to know a FL age 26) who mentioned to me about getting married...i told her that i will only consider if she is above 30..haha...put a complete stop for her to query further.

Yours relationship looks good from my point of view...wish u good luck

cheers :)

u are right on brudder..i am too entered Zone 30 liao... thinking really changes...

[sponge05]

my girl is now working back as a QA and is more stingy than i am now. trying to save every penny just so that i do not need to remit much. she knows that for every dollar i remit would cause stress for me too. she does admit that initially it was hard for her as spending power is no longer there, but she told me that as long as i am true to her and that i dont look down on her on both the past and education, she dont mind to have a simple life.

anyway, it is still works in progress and that it would only be middle of next year before i take the plunge. even then, me intend to have the flat only my name and that certain assets be kept secret until i am super sure.


bro axcel,

it looks good and ur gal seems to be true. ur situation is just like a close friend of mine who got together with a WL, in fact they are going to get married later this year. although there have been quite a number of unhappy cases happening but i still believe some are true so maybe something might work out from this, wish u all the best.

cheers,
sponge

[Horsepower]

bro axcel,

it looks good and ur gal seems to be true. ur situation is just like a close friend of mine who got together with a WL, in fact they are going to get married later this year. although there have been quite a number of unhappy cases happening but i still believe some are true so maybe something might work out from this, wish u all the best.

cheers,
sponge
In fact it seems that the number of Sillypore men marrying WL is on the rise. Some of the gers at the ktvs disappear after a while or stopped totally becos they found love here.

[Torch_Man]

would like to share 1 of my short term relationship with PRC WL to all.

first meeting was wen she was picked 2 accompany me 2 hv a drink with our group. dat nite we got along quite well (she is pretty, 4 me) n xchange contact no. from dat day onwards we met each other very often, but d outin was usually dutch most of d time. she was studyin in d morning while workin at d KTV at nite. i had bin workin 4 sum time liao. i did not feel much thing 4 her (onli know she is a very very nice gal, till then no bonkin watsoever) but we talked on alot of issues, ie standard of living, technologies, transportation, n many more things. somehow foreign gals r slightly better than locals. (i tink) she's got alot of structure ambitions goin on in her head, outspoken, self control (namely afew, in short, she got character [principle]) we grew closer 2 each other unknowingly. then suddenly the feeling of attachment (like wantin 2 know each others' whereabt, etc) grew abit out of hand (treatment like BF-GF) still blur blur that time (though i was late 20s wif experiences oredi, but it is wif a foreign gal, mah)

i was hit hardest wen she told mi, she was being offered 2 b bao n leave mi. (sometimes ignorance is really a bliss, wat u dunno wont kill u)

i admit i belong 2 open-minded type but got limit lah, all along she was truthful 2 mi lah (although we no bonk) i get 2 know/understand alot alot of things from her, such as, that actually China is a very very not-so-updated Country, later which i go China n c 4 myself.

not being able 2 c her pains my heart, she ask 4 my views at being "bao". she needs $$ but not much, otherwise she wont go dutch wif me lah. it was xactly moment i felt uneasy bein wif a WL, all sorts of negative thoughts will automatically rush up in2 our heads n confuse my logic thinking. that time really heart pain, man.
I would like to start a discussion thread on this topic : Any brudders have (or had) WL as girlfriend ? Do you feel awkward if she .... ?

1. Work in the ktv you frequent.
2. Sit with your friends.
3. Saw her sit with a customer on his lap, hug by customer, massaging a customer ? In some cases, HJ for customer, go 81 earn extra etc ...
4. Customers call her when she's with you ?
5. SBF got forum mention her ?
i dunno if i m lucky or not lucky that we did not bonk, mayb if we really bonk, our ending mite be different or the bondage mite be greater

[Hasa Sas]

u are right on brudder..i am too entered Zone 30 liao... thinking really changes...

yeah half leg already in the coffin.

Seem to take things easy than before. Chin chai abit :)

[王小虎龍虎鬥]

In fact it seems that the number of Sillypore men marrying WL is on the rise. Some of the gers at the ktvs disappear after a while or stopped totally becos they found love here.
The PRCs are flooding the Sillypore market.

[axcel]

Hi brothers

Thanks for all your replies and advise and most importantly your support.

Well, i think maybe it was i was sincere to her in my approach. actually me always kept all my promises to her (not about$$) but things like visiting her family, and like her coming her to singapore or certain milestones in the past months that made her quit and to be back to the normal hard life.

i believe i was lucky that she had a good family and background and being old at 31 would think better. and that she has discharge her responsibilities to her parents and that its time she settle down, and funny to have met me.

i will update brothers, when there are new developments. Tommorrow going to ICA to apply for visa for her to come for a visit in September. so as to familiarise living in singapore to prepare for subsequent move to here.

Ciao

[HuiGe3387]

Hi brothers

Thanks for all your replies and advise and most importantly your support.

Well, i think maybe it was i was sincere to her in my approach. actually me always kept all my promises to her (not about$$) but things like visiting her family, and like her coming her to singapore or certain milestones in the past months that made her quit and to be back to the normal hard life.

i believe i was lucky that she had a good family and background and being old at 31 would think better. and that she has discharge her responsibilities to her parents and that its time she settle down, and funny to have met me.

i will update brothers, when there are new developments. Tommorrow going to ICA to apply for visa for her to come for a visit in September. so as to familiarise living in singapore to prepare for subsequent move to here.

Ciao
Good Luck Bro. Make the Big decision of your life with your eyes open.

[sbfpolis]

Hi brothers

Thanks for all your replies and advise and most importantly your support.

Well, i think maybe it was i was sincere to her in my approach. actually me always kept all my promises to her (not about$$) but things like visiting her family, and like her coming her to singapore or certain milestones in the past months that made her quit and to be back to the normal hard life.

i believe i was lucky that she had a good family and background and being old at 31 would think better. and that she has discharge her responsibilities to her parents and that its time she settle down, and funny to have met me.

i will update brothers, when there are new developments. Tommorrow going to ICA to apply for visa for her to come for a visit in September. so as to familiarise living in singapore to prepare for subsequent move to here.

Ciao
You've decided to marry her ?

[axcel]

actually i have decided to marry her....... its a BIG move but has been very comfortable with what we have between us.

anyway, the big day is only middle next year and hope things would turn out well

[sbfpolis]

actually i have decided to marry her....... its a BIG move but has been very comfortable with what we have between us.

anyway, the big day is only middle next year and hope things would turn out well
Normally men who marry WLs are themselves divorcees from broken or failed marriages. Single men would normally have better eligibility to marry locals or better candidates, they seldom choose WLs.

Bro Axcel, I don't mean any ill intentions. Just gathered some comments from my bachelor male friends that marrying WLs is not in their preference.

I know that there are brudders marrying WLs in this thread. It's really a BIG move ! JUst wonder they are divorcees or singles.

[ypres]

Bros,

I read an old thread on Galaxy. A girl there know as Geraldine has a bf who used to be her customer. I guess the guy must luv her alot.

[Horsepower]

Normally men who marry WLs are themselves divorcees from broken or failed marriages. Single men would normally have better eligibility to marry locals or better candidates, they seldom choose WLs.

Bro Axcel, I don't mean any ill intentions. Just gathered some comments from my bachelor male friends that marrying WLs is not in their preference.

I know that there are brudders marrying WLs in this thread. It's really a BIG move ! JUst wonder they are divorcees or singles.
That's what this thread is about. There are many brudders marrying WL they know while cheonging....

[sponge05]

I know that there are brudders marrying WLs in this thread. It's really a BIG move ! JUst wonder they are divorcees or singles.

my friend who is getting married to a WL is single. actually he can easily get a local judging by his earning power & looks.. well guess stuff like this is hard to predict.

cheers,
sponge

[sbfpolis]

my friend who is getting married to a WL is single. actually he can easily get a local judging by his earning power & looks.. well guess stuff like this is hard to predict.

cheers,
sponge
I know a SIA pilot married a 1.72m tall chio PRC who worked as a ktv hostess. The pilot's first marriage. He was a very eligible bachelor.

[FOCH]

I know a SIA pilot married a 1.72m tall chio PRC who worked as a ktv hostess. The pilot's first marriage. He was a very eligible bachelor.

Perhaps his wife was only sitting table and nothing else?

[easyeasy]

Bros,

I read an old thread on Galaxy. A girl there know as Geraldine has a bf who used to be her customer. I guess the guy must luv her alot.

love is blind, the same logic would apply to a ger, dun you find that a lot of useless guys (lazy not working, openly unfaithful type, hooligan) had very good, pretty and hardworking no complain wife or gerfriend. how you explain that?

[sbfpolis]

Perhaps his wife was only sitting table and nothing else?
Anybody here sit table and never try to grab the ktv girl's boobs, feel the G-string line, try to french ?

[sponge05]

I know a SIA pilot married a 1.72m tall chio PRC who worked as a ktv hostess. The pilot's first marriage. He was a very eligible bachelor.

well this just goes to show matters pertaining to love is hard to predict, anyone might fall & marry a WL just that it'll be a lot more complicating than a normal gal.

cheers,
sponge

[Hasa Sas]

well this just goes to show matters pertaining to love is hard to predict, anyone might fall & marry a WL just that it'll be a lot more complicating than a normal gal.

cheers,
sponge

Well,this falling in love with WLs has been dragging on and on.

Everyday,there will be someone falling love with them(newbie or old bird).

The power of love which is simply too strong to resist

Just let nature take it course

It is test of mentality and will power for those who have unfortunately

happen to go through this path. Believe many didn't wanted to but....

Ask Heaven!

[王小虎龍虎鬥]

well this just goes to show matters pertaining to love is hard to predict, anyone might fall & marry a WL just that it'll be a lot more complicating than a normal gal.

cheers,
sponge
Agree !!! Absolutely.

[Horsepower]

well this just goes to show matters pertaining to love is hard to predict, anyone might fall & marry a WL just that it'll be a lot more complicating than a normal gal.

cheers,
sponge
It just strikes you unaware, especially those WL who may be emotionally down and starts to open herself to a customer....

[Horsepower]

I remember being very active in sammyboy forum before and started this thread a few years ago to discuss struggles if getting involved with WLs. Sadly, today I am divorced from my beloved wife and lost my family too (through the annulment of marriage). The many years of indulgences in this ktv and cheonging scene has caused hurts and pains to my wife, who had all these years been faithful. She is intelligent, and looking more and more beautiful each day. On the streets and in office, she is still attracting men who turn their heads to look at her. She is understanding and would always be willing to give (inclusive of finances) to the family, while I could be visiting the ktvs to waste my money there.

I did not understand my behavior all these years, and can even describe the WL as "undertanding" because she did not demand money from me. But now I could be sure she has motive of sticking with me, perhaps hoping to get PR status after marrying me in the event I get divorced from my wife. The WL's looks is far from the beauty of my wife, but it seems that there were charms put on me that caused the behaviours to want to run out see her, get aggressive with my wife when she found out.

I deeply regret what I did. Now divorced, I have all the freedom to start fucking around again. But when I look at these WLs. the feeling is 心如刀割when I realised all thses WLs caused me to be divorced. I am retired from these scenes already, trying to put my life back again. My wife is living in hurts and pains, and my child willl be growing up w/o the father close by his side everyday.