Blowing hot & cold china gf is driving me crazy...Need advice

[Saddness]

Dear Bro & Sis,

I am new here, I am very devastated & can't really zzz well for 1 week already, I hope someone can advise me on this very strange situation, any comments would be deeply appreciated, Thank you.

(I will summaries the whole problem)

I met this china girl from webchat 8 months ago. She has been staying here in Singapore for 6 years already for studying & working. I woo her at the beginning, she rejected cos she say she did not like my type...we met again 2.5 months ago... she decided to give it a try to be my gf.

She has 4 ex bf, 2 from China & 2 from Singapore...her 3rd ex is a married OLD man, yes this is the one she love the most cos she has the most chemistry, I am the fifth one.

When we are together, we are very close, she would hold my hand & kiss me....I will spent lavish dinner on her but never really buy things. I care for her very much, cos I really love her.

We once went to a couple spa & in the pool...we get very intimate & did most of the couple things except making love cos she has period(yes I saw the blood & pad) & she suggested next time.

I thought I found my true love & was a happy man. Recently I am going for a business trip & at the same time she is going back China...so we suggested to visit Hong Kong together for 1-2 days...after there, I will continue my business trip & she will fly back to China from there.

[Saddness]

I book the most luxury hotel in HK..& I paid for her 1 way trip to HK..the home trip, she foot herself. Few days before leaving, I noticed she seemed a little weird....e.g she decided to meet me...but give excuses LAST MIN to do this & that, & can't meet me & her story does not tally, when I ask more, she gets angry.

Then I get suspicious, thinking back, there were once or twice ...a few weeks earlier, I could not reach her at all...& her birthday will be together with some 'mystery' friends from China. RED light is ON....I suspect she is still seeing the married old man.

Instead of cancelling the HK trip, I carry on anyway...from the Singapore airport to on plane to HK..we are behaving like very close couple. BUT the moment we reach the hotel in the morning, she immediately went to zzz (maybe she is exhausted) but in the evening, when I try to get close to her, she refuse saying she is very exhausted & just recovered from a sickness (dengue) which is true.

To be continued

[Saddness]

This is the first time we have a small tiff, cos I am very sad for not able to get close with her(THIS IS A NORMAL FOR COUPLE, PLEASE DO NOT FLAME ME on this)...she told me she only do with a man she love...& she only like me & she needs time to love me. That I ask her why she gets intimate with me in the spa when she only likes me & NOT love, she answer strangle, keeping saying she is now exhausted & do not wish to do....We have a bad quarrel & decided to end this BGR...& afterward.she can still joke & watch TV & zzz throughout the night.

Next morning I told her to leave herself, & leave the things I bought for her mother (I am wrong on this but I have no choice) she say I am cruel & also say she don't know how to explain to her friend that she & me is over (this is a green light that she takes me seriously)

After she left, I am devasted & cried cos this is my virgin trip bring a girl I loved outside the country in a 6 star pose hotel..I was alone in the room ..IN a foreign country & very very heartbroken & no one to talk too..

When I continue my business trip, I feel very guilty & whatsappt her that what I did is wrong & hope she can patch back with me & she consider for 2 days & AGREEED to give our relationship another chance! She is coming back to Singapore next week.

Instead of being happy for patching back, I feel confused I am confused...all my friends say she is using me for $ & asked me to leave her...but I cannot forget her...cos in my mind, I can sense she really show her true love by what she did when we are intimate in the spa..e.g allow me to give her love bites...e.g a girld who love your $ or maybe with a sugar daddy will not allow u to do this.

Furthermore, during this few days, when we talked, she did show interest in defending what she did this & there in the whatsappt, very long wording, IF a girl after being chased out at the pose hotel, will not do this. I am NOT rich & only drive a van, live in a 3 room flat... she cannot be after my $...the only thing is I always spent good food on her.

I hope some bro & sis here can advise me what I should do in this situation, cos I am very very confused now as I am afraid she is still seeing the old man occasionally. Is there any chance she might be true to me....cos I believe a couple should have sex life to be healthy, but the constant thought of what happen in the spa when we gets very very intimate to the next moment in the hotel, she is another person, this thoughts is driving me crazy

Please do not flame me, I sincerely need some help.

Thank you for reading & have a great weekend.

[Saddness]

I am very confused by her actions :(

[Saddness]

Hoping for any advice..thank you.....bro & sis

[Saddness]

Is there any lady member here can help since lady knows lady better

[Lindblum]

I can't help if you haven't gotten to the point ..

[Metalboy]

I can't help if you haven't gotten to the point ..

Lol... thats what i thought too. TS whats your problem or regarding what advice do you need?...

[Metalboy]

If shes behaving suspiciously, maybe she have another "bf" behind your back or shes seeing back her ex?.. If she really loves you, she would have want to spend her birthday with you...

[jomround]

She's using you the same way the old man is using her. My guess.

[Saddness]

I just don't know why & how did the old man manage to hook her with so much chemistry :(

[ah rat]

Ts,did u bonk her :D

[Saddness]

I have to split into 2 posts cos is too long

Again I can't zzz well & wake at on a Sat at 7am to type this

My point is why is she so intimate with me in the spa allowing me to bite all her body & others & when I thought she madly in love with me from her action, the next round the trip to HK, in the pose hotel room, she behave a different person ..all alone she is intimate with me from the airport like very close gf ...till in the hotel room....

& when we quarrel, I angrily say I should bring other gf, she seem angry I have other girls (which is false)...also she told me don't know how to tell her friends about the break up, which is green light

on the other hand...she say she only like me first & can't be love in 2 months cos she is very honestly & direct but she can't explain well why she get so intimate with me in the spa when she only like me & not love me...

Help!! :((

[Saddness]

hoping for more advices :(

[Saddness]

thanks for any feedback :(

[Saddness]

sorry bro & sis, my post is way too ,long & I need to split into 3 sections, as usual I can't zzz well of this...I sincerely help someone can help me....I have NOT seen such situation in my 30 overs years...this is a real challenge & puzzle...I just wish to solve the mystery

[Saddness]

very sad now :(

[kawa333]

Man normally got lousier intuition compared to women. By the time you can sense something not right, something wrong must be happening liao. From your story, seems that she's not willing to tell, then dont force her. Pull your strings back a little and if she really care about u she will come back automatically. Sometimes give away too much not a very wise move.

[Lindblum]

I'm very good at chasing women . I wrote a guide on how to bed women and chase them . I can assure you, you are being played a cuckold . women are not difficult to understand . Drop me a PM and I'll explain

[Saddness]

Hi bro lindblum,

Is there any chance I can talk to u via phone, I can pay u a small token cos I think I really can't take it anymore, she is coming bk next sat

My point is, how can a gf is so so intimate with u in the spa , letting u bite her body...etc n after the spa she keeps holding my hands n kept asking for kisses when she reach home

When I decided to go oversea, everything is perfect till in the room when she giving excuses not to get intimate n she only to with the guts she love n she only knows me for 2 months,

Then why she allow me this n there in the spa, giving me the wrong idea n when ask when she did that in spa n the rest of the time in sin when she only lines n not love?? I am confused??

I also suspect she is seeing other ppl, might be the old man, but IF the old man is her sugar daddy, she will not allow me to leaves mark on her body...hmm she is really a smart gal till I am suffering at her hand, please please help me cos I really Like her now, no joke, is not sex anymore, I really fallen for her 😔

[sammyboyfor]

I also suspect she is seeing other ppl, might be the old man, but IF the old man is her sugar daddy, she will not allow me to leaves mark on her body...hmm she is really a smart gal till I am suffering at her hand, please please help me cos I really Like her now, no joke, is not sex anymore, I really fallen for her

Offer her some money for a fuck. If you offer enough, she'll definitely say yes. Once you've finished fucking her, move on to the next whore.

[blacknight6]

Offer her some money for a fuck. If you offer enough, she'll definitely say yes. Once you've finished fucking her, move on to the next whore.

The most sensible advice so far.

[Saddness]

Dear sammyboy,

Thanks for the reply, when we quarrel in the HK hotel room, I did mention I really need it n if she needs $, I can give, but she reply she only do with the man he love

This shows she don't love me but why she is very very intimate with me at the couple spa when she only likes n don't love me, the action is so real, I am totally confused why she did that

[fabiann]

i dont know should i say this, but i dont know how to type in chinese.

guys must be able to take up and let go<<< in chinese. be a man. no girl no die. no money u die. i saw that u went on a business trip. so i am assuming u are a businessman. so........ being a businessman, u will have chicks offering themselves to u.

why will i make such a statement? cuz i am in the exact same situation as u. but only that girl is a local one. and i am not a businessman. HAHA:rolleyes:

[sammyboyfor]

Dear sammyboy,

Thanks for the reply, when we quarrel in the HK hotel room, I did mention I really need it n if she needs $, I can give, but she reply she only do with the man he love

If you offer girls enough money, the "love" will suddenly develop. :D

[saabking]

sorry bro & sis, my post is way too ,long & I need to split into 3 sections, as usual I can't zzz well of this...I sincerely help someone can help me....I have NOT seen such situation in my 30 overs years...this is a real challenge & puzzle...I just wish to solve the mystery

Hey bro - I am that OLD man..LOL..

Well, joke aside, just to double check - you have not have sex with her right? And she most likely have sex with all her 4 other bfs. Having kiss and love bites are no big deal lar - so don't over estimate them. If you have not have sex with her..then you really have not reach the intimate sexual relationship stage yet.

Anyway..both of you are grown up - just go and have a heart to heart talk..well for u..listen rather than talk. Understand how is she feeling..may be she really need time to sort herself out - between you and me (the OLD man):p. You would rather she go figure it out once and for all, rather than you push and rush her till she can't bear it and rush into the wrong decision..

That's my 2 cents take on the situation.

[saabking]

Dear sammyboy,

Thanks for the reply, when we quarrel in the HK hotel room, I did mention I really need it n if she needs $, I can give, but she reply she only do with the man he love

This shows she don't love me but why she is very very intimate with me at the couple spa when she only likes n don't love me, the action is so real, I am totally confused why she did that

I know..she mistook you to be me (the OLD man) LOL:p
You know women are strange animals..they often do things emotionally and not rationally..may be it was the after-shave on you that reminded her about me (the OLD man) and she temporarily suspend her rational sense of judgement and let you love bites her - thinking you were me (the OLD man)..

[subidowa]

Dear TS why are u so serious in someone u know from wechat...


Crazy... do u know that those apps also which include yu jian and momo is for finding pao you.... That means fuck buddy.... So if someone is there.... must be finding for a fuck. Provided u are good enough to get into her pants...

I have met a few girls from wechat and spent some money on them but i did have my funs...... However, i tell u CHINA girls are the most cunning...


THey will make sure they know about my finance status... and how many properties i have.... then tell me they dun wanna make love to me.... cause they dun wanna fling they wanna a bf and get married. Promise to treat me well blah blah blah.... I also entertain them la but in my heart i never really believe any words they said. They play me i also play them see who gives in first. I also realise she knows im kinda not serious so immediately i know she will go out with other guys from wechat but still keeping me in contact. Just to compare who is better. I know she met other guys go club and dinner. I dun even care if she fuck with the other guys or not. Cause my intention is very clear i just wanna fuck only haha....

So at first she say so many sweet stuffs to me... i entertain her... After she met so many other guys outside and find that im the best. SHe will come back and try to coax me into believeing her that she loves me. I also tell her i will make her my gf. THen i get to f her... then i confirm dump her... THis kind of girls cannot keep one. Who can tahan the game longer will win....

Sorry for my bad english cause i dunno how to phase everything out nicely. This is the most straight forward explaination i can give.

[Saddness]

Thanks for all the advice, other than love bites, she also did all the extreme things , even sallow the cum.

But what I hurt most, if she still love this 50 years old man, why did she accept me as her bf, giving me all the wrong idea....I am v v v sad now, everyone asked me leave this china gal, but she seem to cast a love charm on me....I am really in love with her now, easier than say, I am very heartbroken

[Saddness]

I also believe this 50 years old man might be in here.

If u r, I would deeply appreciated if u can PM for a friendly discussion so I know who the real she n puts a stop on this

Cos now the mental torture is killing me as I can't zzz at all today

Sorry to bother all if u reading, I am very very sad so vent my sorrow here, tks all bro n sis for reading.....

[henabi]

whenever I meet a new girl, I will slowly ask questions which will dig up her past... her likings, her dislikes, what she do, what she eat, how many bf she has...
a bit of history about her bfs and what happened.

as a chinese saying goes: "知己知彼，百战百胜“

I have several FBs, but that was only achievable after many trials and errors. 2 in Vietnam, 3 in Indonesia, 2 in Taiwan, 1 in KL.

i will highly suggest you to change your target and spend time on other girls who will give you much higher returns... This girl is obviously onto some things...

And "Welcome to the Game, Dude. Sit back, relax, and learn."

There are a few rules to follow whenever you meet a new girl:

RULE NO.1: NEVER "flash" your money
Unless you want every girl to treat you as a "Roberto"

RULE NO.2: Be Calculative
Money is our "bait", so use it wisely. If done correctly, we control the game.
But of course not to the extend of a scrooge.

RULE NO.3: Be observant and sensitive
Be observant to her body language and sensitive to her feelings

RULE NO.4: Understand cultural backgrounds of girls from different countries
This is ULTRA important, because it will save ourselves from alot of unnecessary troubles and at the same time help us to score with the right girls.

Wizrd did an article write up on how to pick up indonesia girls
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=314024

lindblum did a great write-up about how to pick up girls generally
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=396559

LASTLY, the most important rule, RULE NO.5: Know when to retreat
if you don't know when to retreat? In future, you will be in the same situation as you are right now

I also believe this 50 years old man might be in here.

If u r, I would deeply appreciated if u can PM for a friendly discussion so I know who the real she n puts a stop on this

Cos now the mental torture is killing me as I can't zzz at all today

Sorry to bother all if u reading, I am very very sad so vent my sorrow here, tks all bro n sis for reading.....

Dude... you gotta be kidding... *shake head*
anyway, whatever needs to be said, has been said. The rest is up to you...

[Lindblum]

Swallowing cum is not a sign of love .. you have to get out of that mentality "because she did this physical act to me, it must be love" . Sex in this time and age is no longer an indication of love . This girl knows how to use sex to control you and your feelings . It may not be because of your money since you are poor . Sometimes girls just like the feeling knowing there are bees still flying around the flower ; reaffirms their attractiveness and gives them a backup .

[seedling]

Bro, its a push pull technique that is commonly applied by women. These mind games are typical and will always exists.

Why? Becuz that's the way women use to filter out the guys that are worth their time and those that don't. Similarly, when a girl stops playing such mind games that means that she have accepted you.

But, from what you have said. I'm sorry to say, you are definitely not being considered a bf or at least not on her terms.

My humble advice is to take a step back which means stop contacting her. Let her contact you instead and use this time to cooldown. I also suggest you to go pay and bang someone before she returns. Ur frustrastion that wasn't release during your trip needs to be unleashed, it affects judgement.

[H2001]

Ts i think you should move on for another gal . If 2 months she can treat you like this then what will happen in a long run
. 短痛 is alright

[subidowa]

Ts, u should share her contact with us. We will try to test her for u... If we succeed in getting her at least it tells u.... she is not that innocent and definitely not for u.

I can't bare to see u suffering so much.... WE will help u end it...

[ahyi_ahyi]

I think we should let saddness continue the journey with the girl. Who among us who has given suggestions didn't learnt it the hard way?

Just like we used to ignore other advice and provide self justifications to what we think right, saddness will be no different.

My only advice is the continue the journey without the lavish things, replace them with normal dinner, normal spa and normal gifts. You have tried all these lavish stunts and it proved not working, why continued the same tricks.

Whatever the outcome, saddness won't die because of this episode in his life. Whatever don't kill you makes you stronger you know.

[coolguy71]

guess you are the spare tyre...

cheer bros.

[stillgottheblue]

Money cannot buy love. Money can buy good fuck.

[Saddness]

Thanks for everyone suggestion n input. I am deeply touched n appreciated... Really really appreciated....

[Saddness]

I will learnt from this incident.... :(

[Saddness]

Hope to have 1 more advice , she come back next Sat n meet me for dinner, what should I say or do to test if she is still making use of me or she really change her mind, tks..

[Lindblum]

Is she making you doubt yourself ? If so don't bother .

[Lindblum]

your biggest problem is , you believe you are sub standard , and she is the best match you can ever find , or someone who suits your level . Quit that attitude , you are a winner so start thinking like one

[Saddness]

Bro Lindblum, do u mean do not meet her?
Thanks

[darthadrvis]

Sounds more like you are having low self esteem in yourself.

It would seem that she still has many more secret out there. I would suggest you talk things out with her.

In a relationship, conversation is key. That one time in the spa can't be avoided. Everyone will have their horny moments.

But IMO, I rather you find someone else. Don't get me wrong...but I don't like to leave a life where my partner is keeping lots of secret from me. Especially one with many past relationship.

Take care bro. Its the weekend. Enjoy yourself.

[Lindblum]

It means just fuck it and cut her loose from your life . Having a winning mentality is the first step to become awesome with women

[Lindblum]

Whatever man dude , from my past experience with people PMing me for advice and advice is given , they usually take 1 out of 10 given , and that 1 advice is just something trivial that they like to hear . I already know right from the start you weren't expecting our advice , but rather someone to sympathize with you and tell you what to do to be loved . I know at the end of the day , you will still meet her and get even more confused and we can have another 10page discussion here about what she meant and said and all that Mumbo jumbo about your feelings . Think of it from her perspective . She's not losing out in anyway .
She goes overseas, you wait for her . When she comes back, you are there for her . You're not being a man here dude . She has nothing to wait for and nothing to lose at all . One call from her and you'll be scuttling to carry her shoes . Think about this

[Saddness]

Thanks bro, is very hard BUT I will try of very very best not to meet her, I will try....:-(

[jj583]

TS,
U have been warned ! She is, in no way simple. Many bros have offered u advise .. Looks like u r lacking in experience. Btw, how old r u? Have u not been through something similar?
Go for a quick release ! It will eased u.
There is so much fun out there ... :cool:

[littlepok]

eh Ts, seriously when i read first few post, i quite sympathise with u. but nb why keep spamming the story over and over again.. u want people to see u just bump the thread la. siao is it? maybe this is 1 of the reason she dump u?

anyway, the woman dont bother u rich or not, as long as u willing to spend. when u dry and out, see how much she love u lor.

she can tell u not rich la but compare the 2. if 1 rich guy and unwilling to spend 1k on a girl vs a poor guy but willing to spend 10k on the girl (his total bank savings) which one u think the girl prefer?

u are a case of "no fish, prawns also ok". if get some benefits from long whatsapp messages, why not? u apologise means u are still ok to be creamed, u are just a business potential.

wanna see whether i am wrong? from now on, no lavish dinner no gifts. just kopi tiam and movies + popcorn paid by u. then have a coffee and heart-to-heart chat.

1-2 weeks later come and post again tell us how much she love u.

[Saddness]

Sincerely apologies, I did not meant to spam the story over n over again . but when I just joined, I post the thread, it didn't appears, so I repost n repost n resulting in so many post n I not sure how to delete them, hope this helps

I will consider all the advices...I sincerely thanks everyone single feedback, thank u

[saabking]

It means just fuck it and cut her loose from your life . Having a winning mentality is the first step to become awesome with women

yup..you need to have that winning confidence and self mastery..
read Warbird's thread to hear about bros' experiences and you would know what it means to have this winning mentality.
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=133505&page=241

[saabking]

your biggest problem is , you believe you are sub standard , and she is the best match you can ever find , or someone who suits your level . Quit that attitude , you are a winner so start thinking like one

yup..can't agree more..you need to have self-mastery and self-confidence ..then better gals can come along..

[littlepok]

Sincerely apologies, I did not meant to spam the story over n over again . but when I just joined, I post the thread, it didn't appears, so I repost n repost n resulting in so many post n I not sure how to delete them, hope this helps

I will consider all the advices...I sincerely thanks everyone single feedback, thank u

ya right u copy and pasted it again this morning lor... duh.

anyway good luck. have a good weekend

[Saddness]

I posted in matter of the hearts this morning but it brought over to the same topic on discussion about sex

I am in pain now but hope to heal slowly

[jialatjinjin]

Whatever man dude , from my past experience with people PMing me for advice and advice is given , they usually take 1 out of 10 given , and that 1 advice is just something trivial that they like to hear . I already know right from the start you weren't expecting our advice , but rather someone to sympathize with you and tell you what to do to be loved . I know at the end of the day , you will still meet her and get even more confused and we can have another 10page discussion here about what she meant and said and all that Mumbo jumbo about your feelings . Think of it from her perspective . She's not losing out in anyway .
She goes overseas, you wait for her . When she comes back, you are there for her . You're not being a man here dude . She has nothing to wait for and nothing to lose at all . One call from her and you'll be scuttling to carry her shoes . Think about this

i agree

be a bastard and walk out.
say you found one young gf who willing to bbbj and swallow for you.
EVERYDAY.

tell her you have no choice but to leave her. before hanging up the phone. say that your gf want to bbbj you again.

hang up the phone.

BE A MAN!!!

[Saddness]

Thank u.....

[KingCrabs]

If ur in HK now, go find some other call girls n have fun. Better than staying in your room n keep saying u heart pain.

[subidowa]

Think lets organise an outing with lindblum and the rest..... Let the bros show u how guys should play with girls and hooking them up.

[jameschong1]

i agree

be a bastard and walk out.
say you found one young gf who willing to bbbj and swallow for you.
EVERYDAY.

tell her you have no choice but to leave her. before hanging up the phone. say that your gf want to bbbj you again.

hang up the phone.

BE A MAN!!!
======better still tell her that her cb smelly, cb big hole already,nipple dark & ugly, breasts drop as many man suck, her mouth and body bad smell.
just tell her to go back china & fuck any man she want
be a man, be a Singaporean, tell her u not stupid

[coffeevan]

I am sorry if this words offend anyone. Be carefully when u go in a relationship with china gals, I don't say all, most of them are very good in minds game. If really u find out she got other boys outside, it best u forget her. If drag longer, more pain as times goes by. Thank you.

[subidowa]

My china wechat girl just block me in wechat.... And i actually plea with her to unblock me... I asked her why she del me... she said jsut suddenly dun wanan chat with me anymore.... I act as if i am hurt on the surface..

Actually i know why la... Thursday she msged me to go out but i dated another girl instead and told her is that girl date me one. Suddenly she msged me a lot asking if i only wanna fuck that girl or not. I told her i cannot click with her... THen firday i dated another girl out but i still send her msg like do u miss me. Suddenly she blocked me on friday night.

Today then reply me dun feel like talking to me. SHe must know that i got many choices one la so she is playing mind game with me now. Trying to make me beg her back. Ok i will do as she pleases but only acting only. Just make her happy till she give everything to me hahaha....

Actually this world is who got more bargaining power who will win... Play with ur chips.... TS.... dun give everything in... Most importantly let her know no one is irreplaceable.

[Saddness]

Point taken, thank u.

[sadfa]

Knn! Why muz post again and again and somemore DIFFERENT versions of the same story!

Anyway, your initial suspicions is correct, she muz be meeting another guy. Maybe old man. Maybe not. But why you care? Cos its certainly not u!

And if u do a lot for her n she still don't appreciate it, time to move on la!
Do so much n yet cannot fuck her, well, you know she is not a very high moral person cos she loves n probably fucks a married old man right? So you are worse than the guy? Why she don't want you?

As for why she got intimate in spa wif u, WHY YOU CARE????
If you like mysteries so much, go n solve some more meaningful mystery la.
Maybe can get a Nobel Prize!

She either hoping to hook you or in the moment, some gals don't think so clearly or at that time, she got no one else la! Its called riding a donkey, while lookin for a horse. YOU ARE THE DONKEY! Ask her what that means in Chinese la!

[edraven]

seems to me she is using you, not for the money, but using you as an accompany when old man is not free, since he is married anyway.

time to move on...

[Gentle Beast]

What happened at the Spa was a mind blowing experience for you; what happened at the Spa to her was a common encounter, aka "No Big Deal".

Sadness for the moment, that's a fact. At this point, you still have time to CUT YOUR LOSSES and walk away.

Any better advice bros?

[alan0338]

other than love bites, she also did all the extreme things , even sallow the cum.


Hope to have 1 more advice , she come back next Sat n meet me for dinner, what should I say or do to test if she is still making use of me

wah lao eh so simple also need to teach meh, just meet her and let ur lanjiao do the talking la... :D

u dun have to do the thinking of topic, ur lanjiao will think for u as always... :D

[icefreezed]

continued -Instead of being happy for patching back, I feel confused I am confused...all my friends say she is using me for $ & asked me to leave her...but I cannot forget her...cos in my mind, I can sense she really show her true love by what she did when we are intimate in the spa..e.g allow me to give her love bites...e.g a girld who love your $ or maybe with a sugar daddy will not allow u to do this.

Furthermore, during this few days, when we talked, she did show interest in defending what she did this & there in the whatsappt, very long wording, IF a girl after being chased out at the pose hotel, will not do this. I am NOT rich & only drive a van, live in a 3 room flat... she cannot be after my $...the only thing is I always spent good food on her.

I hope some bro & sis here can advise me what I should do in this situation, cos I am very very confused now as I am afraid she is still seeing the old man occasionally. Is there any chance she might be true to me....cos I believe a couple should have sex life to be healthy, but the constant thought of what happen in the spa when we gets very very intimate to the next moment in the hotel, she is another person, this thoughts is driving me crazy

Please do not flame me, I sincerely need some help.

Thank you for reading & have a great weekend.

My view is..her feelings for u is very very uncertain. Maybe she feels theres a guy that is very willing to treat her well, so she tries to reciprocate too. During the process, her feelings are actually not very definite... So i dont think shes really into u. Anw, thats just my view based on what u have told us here....:cool:

[Saddness]

Thanks for all the pointers, thank you very much..

After deep thinking, maybe why I feel so sad cos is my VIRGIN trip to OVERSEA with a girl...IF is a local 81 hotel, I will not feel so bad...maybe she crush my ego for my virgin memorable oversea trip so I feel very hurt & can't let go of this anger...

Also I have another q. I 'chased' her away the next morning at the HK hotel...even though I later feel very remorseful & asked for a patch back.....normally a girl in this situation will not turn back cos her ego is broken & once vase broken, cannot paste back again

If she can be 'touched' & willing to patch back...forgetting that I once chased her away....hoping to to suck more meals & goodie from me...after thinking she is really very dangerous

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her unless she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say. Thanks again for all the help bro, have a great weekend

[sammyboy99999]

Bro
Feel sad for you but like many of the bros here said...you have to face reality. They are telling you for your own good. After some years you will be chiding yourself for being foolish at this moment. This girl is a player..sorry means she likes to have sex with those who turn her on. In your case, truth is she dont. She has no feelings for you. Many foreigners just want to make sg their home.

Their life style and mentality is different. Whether it is a filipo, kilang or prc. They just want to get a better life . If I may say so she will only call you when in need of something from you.so please avoid this person totally. Move on. Find some way to relieve your needs but thru not this person. She will definitely harm you.

Although you lost money, take it that you lost in betting toto. I wish you all the best. I am another person who went through the same stinking shit a long time ago so wanted you to wake up.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her unless she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say
Lum Pah Pah Lan Jit Deh Bah
I cfm stamp chop she dun hv to call n call u, u will also sediyah go meet her once she activates u.
Read this old thread.
The TS cannot let go, looking for reasons & reasons when all the reason he needs was already displayed to him clear as ice, but like u, still looking for tat 1 thing tat will cfm his tot of her FEELINGS is real.
Like u, mind all screwed, got sacked for it.
Oh FYI, tis TS has disappeared liao & a few bros n me hv met him too to try to help him, but he already KCed himself....n i mean really SELF KC DEEP DEEP! Just like u

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=85097&highlight=

[sassysunshine]

Thanks for all the pointers, thank you very much..

After deep thinking, maybe why I feel so sad cos is my VIRGIN trip to OVERSEA with a girl...IF is a local 81 hotel, I will not feel so bad...maybe she crush my ego for my virgin memorable oversea trip so I feel very hurt & can't let go of this anger...

Also I have another q. I 'chased' her away the next morning at the HK hotel...even though I later feel very remorseful & asked for a patch back.....normally a girl in this situation will not turn back cos her ego is broken & once vase broken, cannot paste back again

If she can be 'touched' & willing to patch back...forgetting that I once chased her away....hoping to to suck more meals & goodie from me...after thinking she is really very dangerous

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her unless she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say. Thanks again for all the help bro, have a great weekend

Are you upset cause you've wasted a lot of CASH and paid for her trip, etc? Ego bruised? Trying to find tons of reasoning to see that the cash was worth it?
Like hello dafuq dude? The problem isn't her you know, it's you.

I'd say get over yourself. The universe doesn't revolve around you!

Women aren't stupid. We have brains too.

What the girl did was wrong no doubt, but your mentality is even more salah to begin with.

[sadfa]

Thanks for all the pointers, thank you very much..

After deep thinking, maybe why I feel so sad cos is my VIRGIN trip to OVERSEA with a girl...IF is a local 81 hotel, I will not feel so bad...maybe she crush my ego for my virgin memorable oversea trip so I feel very hurt & can't let go of this anger...

Also I have another q. I 'chased' her away the next morning at the HK hotel...even though I later feel very remorseful & asked for a patch back.....normally a girl in this situation will not turn back cos her ego is broken & once vase broken, cannot paste back again

If she can be 'touched' & willing to patch back...forgetting that I once chased her away....hoping to to suck more meals & goodie from me...after thinking she is really very dangerous

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her unless she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say. Thanks again for all the help bro, have a great weekend

No one said you spend a lot on her, you can fuck her.
ALTHOUGH, normally, you pay for overseas trip for the gal, MEANS CAN fuck wan. ESPECIALLY when 1 room and 1 double bed.

So she like pretend dunno dunno here.
Which means she is fucked up wan and not your gf.

Anyway, don't know what your another question is, since you never say also.

[benxiong]

TS . My advised is leave her and dont look back . She is very obvious that she wanted to choose and compared . Why do you want to let her choose ? Even she choose you . Down the road when you guys set up a family , children and parents . When problems arise , what do you think she would do ? She has a few bf before.This makes her a wiser woman in choosing . Is not easy to be with this kind of woman . 'Think far and not only now . She has nothing to lose as for now she may be pretty and got bargain value . Please think for yourself.



As for those nice things you mentioned she did to you and ssuddenly she change . What if she is a pycho ? Middle of the night take knife or something to hurt you . You not scare ? As for those sweet things she did in the spa , any woman can also do when they are horny and already with the person in that kind of enviroment . No big deal . Look at those FL . They are asking for only $60 to max and they can lick your assholes . So what she swallow ? If she give you to lick her and you swallow , does it mean anything ? If you have no money and she work and give you spend , then you can considered . All the bros have given you their point of view and hints . You need to wake up and move on .

[bunnyrabbit]

Bro Sadness

You 50 years old still dun know how these china women think? Just have your fun, f**k and change another wechat china gal..

Why so serious? You think the china gal will really love a 50 year old man?

[pussylicious12345]

Sorry for sounding crude. Many of these girls are looking for rich boyfriends who can marry them or provide their material needs. You obviously did not quite fit the bill, which is why she is blowing hot and cold with you. Your once-off five star hotel stay wont do it, she may be looking for someone with condo or bungolow or big car, doesnt matter if he is married or not. She may be just holding onto you until she can hook up her ideal partner, ie who can give her financial comfort. She will then say bye bye to you.....

You decide for yourself if this relationship is worth it.... No offense, I'm stating my personal opinion.

[fulham]

why do you need to stay in 6 star hotel, wonder how much does it cost. does she advise you to save money? wonder if you have any savings??

this lady seems to me more like a mistress category, as she has so many choices and seems unsure of the relationship with you....she definitely will leave you when you are broke. time to think hard and plan for yourself.

[sunnysunnysunny]

ts, be a man la.....

[hungryghost4]

Bro TS, your nick already gave your game away. Why is there a need to be sad?

You go on wechat to look for a gf and potential wife (maybe?). Pardon my frankness but how dumb can u get? If you are really looking for a potential life partner, go join a dating and marriage agency. Wechat is like 4D or TOTO....based on luck.

So like many bros have advised, cut your losses and run. Don't meet the girl again and block her out from your Wechat and phone etc. Yes, you may feel some pain now, but long term you will heal and be stronger.

You are a businessman and surprisingly you are ruled by emotions. Be clear headed and rational. Even if it is matters of the heart, know when to walk away and start anew.

[sexonstreet]

Thanks for all the pointers, thank you very much..

After deep thinking, maybe why I feel so sad cos is my VIRGIN trip to OVERSEA with a girl...IF is a local 81 hotel, I will not feel so bad...maybe she crush my ego for my virgin memorable oversea trip so I feel very hurt & can't let go of this anger...

Also I have another q. I 'chased' her away the next morning at the HK hotel...even though I later feel very remorseful & asked for a patch back.....normally a girl in this situation will not turn back cos her ego is broken & once vase broken, cannot paste back again

If she can be 'touched' & willing to patch back...forgetting that I once chased her away....hoping to to suck more meals & goodie from me...after thinking she is really very dangerous

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her unless she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say. Thanks again for all the help bro, have a great weekend
Bro Sadness, in actual fact you already have all the answer within yourself. You knew it all along. You are just trying to seek other possible answers so that you can carry on this relationship. With this 自欺欺人 mentality. I doubt you will like the ending in any case. If you wake up faster, you are lucky. You wake up later, you also lucky because you also learn a lesson but the the hard way. Best of luck in either path you choose. Its your life, your call.

[Villian]

Seriously you have to wake up from this dream or rather, NIGHTMARE

Stop convincing yourself that she's into you, when she knows exactly what you are after.
Afterall you met her on wechat didn't you? What are the chances she's hooking up with other guys like she did with you ?

What's CIM, if she's willingly to give FJ for money ?
She's just playing reverse games with you..
You claimed that you don't have much money, and it's very unlikely that she's after your money..

Then again, compare one LOADED with cash but armed with STRONG emotions and WISE, to a guy ( whom has enough to take her to lavish dinners & 6 stars hotel in HK) who is easier manipulated by her.. She's definitely gonna pray on the easier manipulated one.

Be the player, or be played.

Just my 2 cents.

[bombshell]

Just move on lah..there are still plenty of better ones around who might be worthy of your love.. if she really is into you, she will be wanting to spend every minute with you.just like what you are doing for her..:rolleyes:

[tuakeeteo]

If she can be 'touched' & willing to patch back...forgetting that I once chased her away....hoping to to suck more meals & goodie from me...after thinking she is really very dangerous

But after al the advises from all bro, I will not meet her UNLESS she call & call & I will give in to see what she have to say. Thanks again for all the help bro, have a great weekend[/QUOTE]

Dear TS,
Can sense you are an extreme emo person, not a player. Uncle tuakee many years ago kana same same situation.
1. She take CIM ... So what ! That pussy shd have been fuck many times by others... I ll bet my last tuakee wif u.
2. From watt u said, u are already tuning yr mind to forgive her & get back wif her...U LOSE liao
3. U will never be able to let her go
Prediction: TS 0 Prc 10... If u still dun wakeup!

[sleepy80]

Hope to have 1 more advice , she come back next Sat n meet me for dinner, what should I say or do to test if she is still making use of me or she really change her mind, tks..

Simple... When you meet her, bring her for dinner in a restaurant again, dun need to be posh to save your money first. Then tell her this is the last time you can afford to eat with her in restaurants. Tell her you lost alot of money in casino and is in big debt bcos you are so devastated in this relationship. Try to ask her for a loan of a few hundreds bucks first. If she start to avoid you or show signs then you know the answer that she is after your money.. Confirm plus chop she wants ur money unless you Andy Lau lar!!

[hkcg]

WOW. First thing that really struck me after seeing this thread is how - despite the unintentional or maybe even inevitable angst expressed by some - when another male user of this forum who's currently love-struck and engaged in all the emotional tussles asked for help, so many other bros initiated and provided sincere - though blunt for some - suggestions as to what TS can do. *Salute to the camaraderie.

TS, hope you feel perfectly fine soon. I guess for me it has always been quite simple. I am not a sexist but I think guys, especially guys, must not allow themselves to feel like they are taken for granted. I mean, that principle applies to our female counterparts also lah but seriously, TS, I think we have lived long enough, seen, heard, observed enough to realize the importance of sincerity in human-to-human interaction. Especially so with those whom we deem close, or wish to be close. Because they are the ones who can hurt us the most. Ok, family...quite different...you didn't choose which family you would be born in but I am talking about friends..people you allow yourself to be close to..I believe you are good enough to know in your heart whether she is sincere or not - seriously, I do - and right now, I guess you're just learning to let go. And trust me, protect and guard that male pride of yours real well by letting go...coz there definitely are other ppl out there who are sincere and deserve your time and effort (you're sleeping well so how are you going to serve your clients and meet their needs?).

You hang in there and I guess I can say this on our behalf that we hope you'd be back to your normal self real soon.

Cheers.

[iFuck]

"She has 4 ex bf, 2 from China & 2 from Singapore...her 3rd ex is a married OLD man, yes this is the one she love the most cos she has the most chemistry, I am the fifth one."

Hi TS,
Ur first post already ring lot the bells and whistles.
You want to have a "friendly discussion" with that 50 yrs old man.
What you intend to tell him ?
Sorry you are no match.

You sure you know her well enough ? So sure she love u !
How did both of you spent birthdays,valentine , weekends, public holiday...??
From there you will know her priority.
You know where she work, her friends /colleagues ...

Is she ur first "GF" ?
Surprise that u are over 30. You need to reflect on what had happened. Many members have contributed. Think hard n learn fast.

Be a happy man again.

[Papadude]

TS,
I would say... it's ur choice..
YOU Are in a better position to gauge for urself..
True or False?!
Human being are funny creature, they love to live in their own fantasy and lies...
Good Luck!

[Tazzymercs]

Bro, its just another china girl...shenzhen, zhuhai, guangzhou plenty..only one in a million...why so fixated on her..you live in a 3 room flat driving a van..knn still wan spend money on a posh hotel wat the fuck wrong with you on a china girl that has chemistry with a old man.. obviously its after his money..as his cpf can draw out...KNN

ok scolding one side liao.. bro..china girl or not...the way you say..is that she hang herself up to sell. the higher she hang, maybe the more choices she has. why must stick to you, when you can barely afford her lavish lifestyle. its just a game for her. let you have lovebite why not...she can go claim to other ppl who are interested in the game say you can afford her...up her ante you know.

you duno what they will do. bro stop being a carrot head liao. i know some vietnams girls they do it for less lo.. >.<" beside...china girls the way they teh..its almost or close to or even first class liao...thur many experiences they shared..seriously..you impress her with money...if you no money how?

if a girl really loves you, they wun behave like this de. so what couple spa..ruba here ruba there..nothing to lose what make, bait your appetite, make you wan more. when you wan more, more money is spend. you think about it lo. its just another potential business for them.

[Traid14k]

sorry bro & sis, my post is way too ,long & I need to split into 3 sections, as usual I can't zzz well of this...I sincerely help someone can help me....I have NOT seen such situation in my 30 overs years...this is a real challenge & puzzle...I just wish to solve the mystery

Buy some sleeping pills if you cant sleep.

She just cock tease you in the spa and you are already so desperate for her? If she fucks you than you will sell your house and give her everything?

Go GL and pay for a fuck and you will feel much better, trust me.

[romidogdog]

I just don't know why & how did the old man manage to hook her with so much chemistry :( bro TS. Very simple between old man and her MONEY is the chemistry. If you are as rich as the old man than you got chances, but than imho you better leave her now or else more problem will come.

[Saddness]

Sometimes I don't know whether she is telling true or false

She told me she can't zzz for 6 months when she 'broke up' with the old man when his family found out. She told me there was real instant chemistry in them....

This make me confused cos if she really want to con my $. I met her 6 months ago, even thought I spent a lot, she tr us we can't be together

Also I forget to add, during this 2 months together, she would talk about marriage with me...etc n angry if I say we might not be suitable...blah...that's is the reason why I say she is very strange

Yes, I deeply appreciate everyone gave me pointers here, I think everyone is right, cos everyone give the same views, but I just think time slowly withdrawn this nightmare
e, thanks again !

[C.I.M]

Aiyo bro TS, in the game of LOVE. If u cannot be the player,then u will be play.

Most PRC woman are the same, u need to play cool. Do not lose ur control bro, if game of LOVE have 10 stages u r in stages 2 or the most 3 only.

LOVE is not something that u can ask for,is something that the other party r willing to give it to u.Once u become a beggar in this game, u r bound to lose.

[alexharnozd]

i like this !!!

its true... :p game of love , you must become a player in this game , do not lose your control !! or get out from the game would be better !! :)

[henabi]

Sometimes I don't know whether she is telling true or false

She told me she can't zzz for 6 months when she 'broke up' with the old man when his family found out. She told me there was real instant chemistry in them....

This make me confused cos if she really want to con my $. I met her 6 months ago, even thought I spent a lot, she tr us we can't be together

Also I forget to add, during this 2 months together, she would talk about marriage with me...etc n angry if I say we might not be suitable...blah...that's is the reason why I say she is very strange

Yes, I deeply appreciate everyone gave me pointers here, I think everyone is right, cos everyone give the same views, but I just think time slowly withdrawn this nightmare
e, thanks again !

During this time, pick up a new sports or hobby, like inline skatin, snorkelling or scuba diving.
These are sports which have plenty of girls and decent ones too.

But of cuz the main motive is to widen your circle of friends and JUST make more friends and meaningful ones... enrich your life with meaningful things is more important and being sad over a fucked up atb.

By having meaningful events, you are indirectly telling her that "就算没有你, 我照旧过得很好"

[BMW520_M]

she sld b a ktv hostess by night n a student by day. Unless you have tons on $$$ to lavish on her. If not move on.........dun waste time on her.

[hungryghost4]

2 x 2 words advice for you:

Wake up!
Move on!

[motormaster]

Ha ha
China gf! I have experience in this before few years ago.
Yes, they are hot, beautiful face, graceful, have sexy body.

But, I don't think you will be able to understand them mentally.

My ex was like that to me also, in the first 1-2 month of the relationship. SOmetimes she will be very intimate, loving, giving kisses, hold your arms, and very endearing, and then if you tell her "I want to see you everyday" she will suddenly turn cold and look away. Then after a few minutes, she will be back being loving etc again.

This is a sign that she only sees you as a date. No emotional attachment yet. She is thinking, "you are only my new boyfriend, we could break up any minute. I have had many bf before too and got dumped or dumped them. You are probably like any other men who fools around. NO need to get too emotional". You must remember, they come from a country where it's a dog eat dog world. If you don't fool people, people will fool you first. So they always feel the need to pretend to be someone nicer than they really are, just to get what they want from others via manipulation and sweet words. They probably never experienced real love before.

This type of girl, the only strategy is to treat them 100x very good, tell them you really care and love them. If they don't respond in kind, then tell them you're upset and DUMP them right there. Yes, just leave the room and tell them you will never meet ever again!

This is what I did. Then it became her turn to cry, beg me to stay, say she just wasn't ready to expose her heart for fear of being crushed, but now she knows i really care for her and she really loves me. Then from then on, for the next 1 year she became like a puppy. She will do anything I want her to do, including asking her to take off her clothes and I video her, for my enjoyment. She will be ready for sex just to please you, whenever you want.
But be warned, she will want to marry you very fast! LOL

[motormaster]

And she probably has some secret that she doesn't want you to know, if she gets angry when you ask her details.

[tcrecruit]

They all travel far n wide for one single purpose only.. Better life.. So, that means only one thing I can think of.. Money. The old man is probably filthy rich.

And how much u know about her life in china? China ktv gals start working as young as 16/17... By the time she is 20, they are already experts in toying with a guy...

Think over! Don't waste your money.. If she really love u, she will not mind if I don't spend money on her... That's true love!

[Saddness]

To all bro n sis,

I am very sad as I type this, I have decided to move on after I make a shock discovery today

I just hope before this matter ends, someone can input me an answer for the final ending situation

She is coming back this Sat....but I know where she lives...on 6 floor in a unit near queens town ...she always allow me to send to the lift only...she told me she stay with another lady

But today I went to the door, an uncle open the door , from the infos of the neighbour, he is a taxi driver....the uncle us a polite old man, he told me NO one stay there nor she seen this lady before...just tell me do not trust why china gal say

BUT I seen her entering the flat all the time before I take the lift down...so she must live there...there why did the uncle hide from me?

Also, when sometimes I buy food for her...she will anyhow wear & wait for me at the lift....yes I need to move on. .I am mentally torture...but I just hope an answer.

I was Rooted on the spot, I 100% sure she stay there, Now I know

She lied to me! But I really wish to talk more to the uncle. But he politely close the door

Yes, I will move on, but I just don't know why the uncle hide from me...he seem so nice....I am mentally hurt badly....from this situation , hope u guys can advise before we close here, thank u all.....

[flowbow]

How you know which unit she stay :confused:

[prettymannequin]

To all bro n sis,

I am very sad as I type this, I have decided to move on after I make a shock discovery today

I just hope before this matter ends, someone can input me an answer for the final ending situation

She is coming back this Sat....but I know where she lives...on 6 floor in a unit near queens town ...she always allow me to send to the lift only...she told me she stay with another lady

But today I went to the door, an uncle open the door , from the infos of the neighbour, he is a taxi driver....the uncle us a polite old man, he told me NO one stay there nor she seen this lady before...just tell me do not trust why china gal say

I was Rooted on the spot, I 100% sure she stay there, Now I know
She lied to me! But I really wish to talk more to the uncle. But he politely close the door

Yes, I will move on, but I just don't know why the uncle hide from me...he seem so nice....I am mentally hurt badly....from this situation , hope u guys can advise before we close here, thank u all.....

How were you 100% sure she stayed there?

And why do you think the uncle was hiding from you? Maybe he really didn't know the girl at all... so what for talk to you so much. Give you one line "don't trust China girl's words" very good already.

[Tai_zi21]

Do u know how many PRC gals are there in singapore? 30000 or more i guess!

u know her from wechat? and without even having sex u are crazy over her? Have you ever chiong before? Go to places like peace centre! there are tons of prc gals for u to choose from! and not to mention more pretty than her i guess... since she has choose to lied to you already

May i know wat is holding u back? have u visit her in her hometown? have u see her parents? u didn't even manage to fuck her for christ seek!

Pls wake up! i believe there are still many nice prc gals around but too bad she just isn't the one for you!

[crood]

But today I went to the door, an uncle open the door , from the infos of the neighbour, he is a taxi driver....the uncle us a polite old man, he told me NO one stay there nor she seen this lady before...just tell me do not trust why china gal say

I was Rooted on the spot, I 100% sure she stay there, Now I know
She lied to me! But I really wish to talk more to the uncle. But he politely close the door


Are u sure it's a human u seen :confused: i m really getting goosebumps.

[subidowa]

Bro.... Pls upgrade.... Nowadays its not longer in to play or have china gf....
Upgrade pls.... last time the ultmate gf or fb is to get a jap lady. I done that... Now i go for korean...... Dun accept lower standard... then u will find themselves all throwing themselves at u.....

What u are facing i can say is ur own fault.... Why u fall so deep into this shit..... Save ur money aim for koreans..... japs..... pls.... if not i teach u....

[crood]

Bro.... Pls upgrade.... Nowadays its not longer in to play or have china gf....
Upgrade pls.... last time the ultmate gf or fb is to get a jap lady. I done that... Now i go for korean...... Dun accept lower standard... then u will find themselves all throwing themselves at u.....

What u are facing i can say is ur own fault.... Why u fall so deep into this shit..... Save ur money aim for koreans..... japs..... pls.... if not i teach u....

y not teach us then :confused:

[crood]

Pls wake up! i believe there are still many nice prc gals around but too bad she just isn't the one for you!

Bro, in that case u think prc gf is a good choice? Ur signature doesn't imply prc gals? I m considering to change my target from local to prc.

[Tai_zi21]

Bro, in that case u think prc gf is a good choice? Ur signature doesn't imply prc gals? I m considering to change my target from local to prc.

My signature imply on local gal bro! haha

In fact i have a few gf from PRC before... And to be honest i think they always give men a very good gfe feeling! sex was great as well so no complaints abt them for me

[Devil4U]

my advice is this. IF you are in a relationship, just enjoy it and let nature take it course and no need to keep thinking about having sex if you love her. When two couples are happy, sex will come naturally. U can trust me on this...

BUT if you need to try very hard to be happy and to enjoy this relationship or you feel stress and upset all the time in this relationship, my advise is to leave her. What is the whole point of hanging on when you/her don enjoy the time together when now should be the golden time? Even if together, it also wont last.

[subidowa]

Local girls are too golden CB liao.... They still think they are so up there and look down on singapore guys (after we serve the nation so much.... this is what we should get from them???) THey always think ang mo or anyone else also better than us. Of course minus those bangala etc.

The truth is nowadays the world is getting smaller. A lot of talented and pretty babes are coming into sg everyday.... Last time the girls used to look down on china girls..... Nowadays they MUST HAVE wake up and realise that in terms of brain, looks, skin and height.... they are no where near even china girls standard.... Yet they are acting still so stuck up. THey never wake up.

So for me, i always go for korean and jap first. THen follow by HK and taiwan, then malaysian and china. I just find that SG girls are not worth that much effort since i feel the same way they feel about general singaporean guys which is too similar in terms of education and thinking. However, i do enjoy playing with sg girls too... Some pple said sg girls very difficult to please. However, i find they are rather easy lol.... if u can give the minimum things they want...

[crood]

So many bros have bad experience with local gals. I should really change my target.

My signature imply on local gal bro! haha

In fact i have a few gf from PRC before... And to be honest i think they always give men a very good gfe feeling! sex was great as well so no complaints abt them for me

I feel for u bro, what a slut to hurt u badly. Anyway some local gals are known to be materialistic and unfaithful.

Let's look for greener pasture!

Local girls are too golden CB liao.... They still think they are so up there and look down on singapore guys (after we serve the nation so much.... this is what we should get from them???) THey always think ang mo or anyone else also better than us. Of course minus those bangala etc.

So for me, i always go for korean and jap first. THen follow by HK and taiwan, then malaysian and china. I just find that SG girls are not worth that much effort since i feel the same way they feel about general singaporean guys which is too similar in terms of education and thinking. However, i do enjoy playing with sg girls too... Some pple said sg girls very difficult to please. However, i find they are rather easy lol.... if u can give the minimum things they want...

I have no luck with local, time to change my target. I am not rich to aim Korean/Jap to buy branded for them.

Which countries gals is less materialistic? simple and down to earth? I am not rich and cant afford to spend on them.

[iFuck]

Hi TS,
I believe is not easy for u to cut her off right away. You had fallen too deep.
U r blinded by this so called "love". If I know u personally ,I will kick u in you ass to wake u up.

Since she is coming back this sat. (u will meet her for dinner only). Do u know her flight no. ?
Check her out at the airport w/o her knowing. You might get a shock on what u see. She coming back alone ? From now on observe her, her friends, where she work.... just go with the flow and open ur eye wide.

I believe the more you know ..it will be easily for you back off.

It seem that u don't know her well enough.
As for the taxi uncle, Is normal to act in this way.
Why would he tell u so much. Telling you not to trust her is good enough.
You want him to bad mouth her. How long you know this uncle ?

The sooner you cut her off the better for u. Don't waste time n money on this girl.

[Saddness]

Thanks....yes, I believe this 50 years old uncle that stays with her should be her 2nd BF....her hubby or even her sugar daddy...but how much can a taxi uncle earn??

BUT if he can give me the advice...do NOT trust China gal words, Why did she still keep her in her house?

He don't seem jealous when he sees me , decline to talk to me & ask me beware of China gal...before closing the door

For this final breakup that makes me better, all my friends advise me.....have a simple dinner with her...then I walk her to the 6 floor lift...the moment she walk into the same flat, I will confront her & tell her I already know who stay here....etc & she lied me here & there....after scolding....I will leave with my head high.

P/S: Cos I am a man where I need to see with my own eyes to truly forget a thing. though now I mam 200% is the same house, the moment she entered in, give me 500% confirmed ....then the final ending that can close this chapter. strangly if I have not know the truth , I still fall high & heel with her...the truth of me seeing the guy at the door really shook me & awakes me...

[subidowa]

Can u share her pic and the place she stays???? I think we are keen to try our luck with her too.... We will help u take revenge on her and the uncle.

[starbuck]

Bro saddness.

Let me introduce you one of my best friend call Time.

He can heal any wound, dissolve any memories and can bring your back to the right track.

I too had my fair share of infatuation when I was young. Now looking back I laughed at myself for being too silly.

This hot and cold game she played with her brain, you played with your heart. You are bound to lose.

Let Mr Time give you a few week of cold turkey treatment and you will be less addictive when you see her again.


问世间， 情为何物？ 直叫人生死相许..........

[henabi]

let bygones be bygones dude, since you already wanna move on...

there are good girls and there are those with "公主病" or princess sickness.
if you know those with such illness then move away.

there are plenty of pretty local girls who are faithful. and I know a few who met bad guys in the past.
clubs, pubs n bars are difficult to know good girls.

healthy activities have higher chances like gym, aerobic lessons, scuba diving, skating, etc

[PeteTsang69]

bro saddness ....that guy could simply be the landlord ...thats why he so indifferent to you ...just telling u beware of them ...maybe seen other guys like you before ....

why hv dinner, n execute your plan to throw a surprise confrontation? ...

don't throw away good money after bad ...forget about that dinner ... save that $ for the next one on someone you like ...

let her come back to you ... but i doubt this too...

wechat for serious GF, wrong start ...
like going to fastfood joint expecting gourmet meal :rolleyes: :D . . .can meh? ! ? !

[Taisho75]

Thanks....yes, I believe this 50 years old uncle that stays with her should be her 2nd BF....her hubby or even her sugar daddy...but how much can a taxi uncle earn??

BUT if he can give me the advice...do NOT trust China gal words, Why did she still keep her in her house?

He don't seem jealous when he sees me , decline to talk to me & ask me beware of China gal...before closing the door

For this final breakup that makes me better, all my friends advise me.....have a simple dinner with her...then I walk her to the 6 floor lift...the moment she walk into the same flat, I will confront her & tell her I already know who stay here....etc & she lied me here & there....after scolding....I will leave with my head high.

P/S: Cos I am a man where I need to see with my own eyes to truly forget a thing. though now I mam 200% is the same house, the moment she entered in, give me 500% confirmed ....then the final ending that can close this chapter. strangly if I have not know the truth , I still fall high & heel with her...the truth of me seeing the guy at the door really shook me & awakes me...

Lovl...... bro u r still young. This old man may not even be her bf or whatever u think. Dun analyse too much or else u may snapped. Whatever the need to exposed her? Walk her to the door, see her open the door with the keys. If she cant, just tell her u help her call old man to open. She will sense something not right, then u tell her u r leaving for good. Walk away and dun look back ever. Dun need waste ur energy to scold or shout at her.

Hope that this open ur eyes and play carefully next time.

[driver94]

I also believe this 50 years old man might be in here.

If u r, I would deeply appreciated if u can PM for a friendly discussion so I know who the real she n puts a stop on this

Cos now the mental torture is killing me as I can't zzz at all today

Sorry to bother all if u reading, I am very very sad so vent my sorrow here, tks all bro n sis for reading.....

Bro
All china girls are the same to them if you love
Them you should take care of your love and for
Some cases even their family

[tcrecruit]

Not sure about SG but in HK many prc get married to locals for citizenship or pR status. So it could b a case both are married for whatever reasons... Maybe uncle really got hooked by her sweet talk previously n married her and then she changed 180 degrees after marriage(and getting pR).... These stories are plentiful...... So, wisen up n go GL n screw as many prc as u can.. Then forget about her....

[iloveu1987]

why waste time over one small patch of grass, when u have the whole forest out there. girls are very simple animal de. they are only after money and looks only. so bro TS i suggest u give her money, bonk and leave la. kiss and hug so common. i go club also kiss and hug. but that does not mean u develop feeling for them.
for the old uncle maybe the old man give her lump som of CPF money lei. or his saving.

[pleasurehobby]

My opinion is:

A person past actions tells a lot abot her habits and behaviour, which are not easily changed by others, even though often we think we could.

Many people choose to blinded by evidences which are in their face.. and choose to only see a small view point of 'good'.

[ahyi_ahyi]

Hello all

Let's close this episode. It is like Taiwanese drama now..

[sadfa]

Thanks....yes, I believe this 50 years old uncle that stays with her should be her 2nd BF....her hubby or even her sugar daddy...but how much can a taxi uncle earn??

BUT if he can give me the advice...do NOT trust China gal words, Why did she still keep her in her house?

He don't seem jealous when he sees me , decline to talk to me & ask me beware of China gal...before closing the door

For this final breakup that makes me better, all my friends advise me.....have a simple dinner with her...then I walk her to the 6 floor lift...the moment she walk into the same flat, I will confront her & tell her I already know who stay here....etc & she lied me here & there....after scolding....I will leave with my head high.

P/S: Cos I am a man where I need to see with my own eyes to truly forget a thing. though now I mam 200% is the same house, the moment she entered in, give me 500% confirmed ....then the final ending that can close this chapter. strangly if I have not know the truth , I still fall high & heel with her...the truth of me seeing the guy at the door really shook me & awakes me...

Haha.

See the same guy in the house she stays, you still cant see the light?
You still waiting for her excuse to you? He is the tenant or guard of the house? Or You need to see them fuck then you can accept?

You already know she lies, why you need to confront her?
So u can feel good? What do you think will happen? She will cry n beg for your forgiveness? These china women will give more excuses n if you press, they will say they don't want to quarrel n walk away. N when you want to know more, they will say who are you to me? and insult you. And who are you? Are you really her bf? You think spend that kind of money on her, means she owes you?

And why you care why she keep him in the house? Maybe its HIS house.
Maybe they fuck once in a while and he give her free rides? WHO CARES!

And why cant he give you advice? Maybe he also know what this gal is up to. And giving you some tips.

You remind me of some fucking idiot I know who ask why why why all the time. And he muz know! Of cos he cant accept the fact he is an idiot and asshole. He is even older than you and an even bigger loser and idiot than you. Don't end up like him la!

[lrjk1985]

Bro,

I think she's just using you lah. For money or for pleasure only. Don't every believe China girls.

[motormaster]

Hi Sadness,

one piece of advise for you. Don't waste another cent to buy this bitch dinner. Haven't you spent enough?

Watsapp her, tell her to meet you at xxx location at a certain time, tell her you wanna take her to a very nice expensive place for dinner. Make sure it's some place she has to stand, like a MRT station or Orchard Road under the hot sun. Then don't ever show up. Time to revenge and play with her mind now.

Make her keep thinking and wondering why why why why why didn't you show up???
Did you get in an accident?
Did you find out her secrets?
Did you dump her?
Did you find another girl?
Did you play with her?
Did you change your mind?
Did you do this on purpose?

Make her go crazy like this. (Make sure the date is for dinner, and not lunch. If lunch, she could just go get a snack and shopping and forget about those questions. Make her wait for you for dinner, then she will be alone, it's getting late, she is hungry, and after that it's time to go home it will really make her wonder what the fuck happened to you and those questions above will play in her head non stop). Don't answer the phone when she calls, don't cancel either. Just don't pick up.

And don't answer her phone for 1 month. This will help you get over her as well. Maybe 6 months down the line when she is alone and think about you and still wonder why you disappeared, and if she sms you, you can ask "Who is this?"

LOL
Best revenge ever on this bitch.:D

[motormaster]

Bro
All china girls are the same to them if you love
Them you should take care of your love and for
Some cases even their family

No kidding my friend. Yeah, I went to visit a China gf of mine a few years ago. Do you know what her mum says to me?

She said, "In China, it is the girl's husband that takes care of the girl's parents in their old age." (hint hint).
My gf has a older brother who makes good money, but the parents are smart, don't wanna waste the son's money, ask me to take care of them.

Don't play play in China, lol

[saabking]

Thanks....yes, I believe this 50 years old uncle that stays with her should be her 2nd BF....her hubby or even her sugar daddy...but how much can a taxi uncle earn??

BUT if he can give me the advice...do NOT trust China gal words, Why did she still keep her in her house?

He don't seem jealous when he sees me , decline to talk to me & ask me beware of China gal...before closing the door

For this final breakup that makes me better, all my friends advise me.....have a simple dinner with her...then I walk her to the 6 floor lift...the moment she walk into the same flat, I will confront her & tell her I already know who stay here....etc & she lied me here & there....after scolding....I will leave with my head high.

P/S: Cos I am a man where I need to see with my own eyes to truly forget a thing. though now I mam 200% is the same house, the moment she entered in, give me 500% confirmed ....then the final ending that can close this chapter. strangly if I have not know the truth , I still fall high & heel with her...the truth of me seeing the guy at the door really shook me & awakes me...

hey bro - how was the Saturday showdown - you got your desired outcome?:confused:

[Camel]

hey bro - how was the Saturday showdown - you got your desired outcome?:confused:

Any updates?

[Saddness]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the help, moral support, I deeply appreciated!

I have not zzz well since we parted 18 days ago...the stress & the missing her makes me lost some weight.

Many people in here & friends ask me NOT to meet her again..BUT I could not forget her.

She came back last Sat, but we arrange to meet today 5/11/2013 (Tuesday)

I am GLAD that I met her. WHY? Cos now I finally...yes at this point of typing, I will can finally close this chapter WIOTHOUT a tear. WHY?

Please read below:

__________________________________________________ ________

We met today evening at Esplanade. There is some small rain. When she appears, we went to a restaurant to eat, is my treat to her for saying sorry for quarrelling with her in HK.

She instead ordered the very expensive steak....the moment I see this..I know everyone is correct. She is ONLY making use of me..is very obvious. But I still love her, so I don't mind. Yes, I am a carrot, but love is blind.

We chit chat & talked...the spark is NO longer there...after the quarrel in the HK hotel (there is a saying, when a vase is shattered, no matter how u paste back, the crack is STILL there.)

The final straw came when I asked her IF she is staying with a old man in the house.....she deny & swear to god...the moment I see this...my heart turned cold...she is a very good & professional liar....after much persistence...she admitted...but kept twisting here & there...I throw her all the evidence... from her unit when I talk to her neighbours.as well as the old man wisdom to me.....she was dumb folded...

from what I concluded...she already lived there for 2 years plus....I then tell her....this old man is very cunning, he knew I am with her, yet when she back to Singapore, he never utter a word, IF this old man really love her, this shouldn't be the way..as well as saying, the old man warn to me about her. Doubt she will receive any CPF $.etc

She is very agitated & scolded me to leave her alone, give her space & some time...she also shouted," Don't track or monitor me, I hate it!

She asked me why I did this to her....I reply cos I love her....do not want her to get cheated..etc. The final straw came when she at lost of words ...then tell me... no more next time meet up again, we are both finished.

Frankly, I was not sad at all, seriously, no kidding...I instead look down on this china gal...think my eyes is blind...she is NOT wife material...when she did is very evil...I hate this type of people....don't know why I did not zzz well cos of her..

NOW NOW I have the truth COLD FACT...she is in fact with this old man ....no dignity for her...she is willing to offer herself... just to ex for a place to stay & maybe other benefits.

I walked away with my head high & will never look back...I am VERY GLAD..I found out the truth!......if not I will be still madly in love with her.

Whatever I read in the papers about China gal....with old man...cos of CPF $...I NEVER expect 1 day..I will meet a gal I like & she is one of them.

Lesson learnt, NO more china gf for me.

Thanks for everyone again, I will move on as a man! :-)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I cfm stamp chop she dun hv to call n call u, u will also sediyah go meet her once she activates u.
As predicted. Always the same story different actors only.
Do not be too arrogant. Now the detox & healing begins.
U tink it's all over???
Now its anger, next is loneliness n u will yearn for her.
That's when the final test for u will come.
Contact her again like I say, a heroin addict will only kick the drug when he breaks the most period of strongest urge.
99% will fail. Only the 1% who can totally hv self & mind control & determination will make it.
Dun mean to splash cold water at u but from the way u hv been handling it, u very potential belong to the 99% camp.
Gd luck man, cos the next time u meet her, u will be doomed a million times over.
Last but not least, dun blame her for anything. U made ur own choice & did everything on ur own free will. No one forced u.
Just like this whole thread, everyone tell u run far far but u cannot cos u bung buay loh.
AMEN :D

[sadfa]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the help, moral support, I deeply appreciated!


I read your post, I feel like banging my head on my table a few times.

You mean you actually go and ask her neighbours about her?
Wahlao! So humiliating! Do you even think what her neighbours will think of her? No wonder she is furious! Anyone will be furious if this dumb insensitive guy ask ppl who don't even know her about her. The neighbours think she is a hooker how? Or she is a con woman?

And whats all this about her staying wif old man for his CPF money? That's juz your assumption! And whats this about him really loving her? What makes you think they love each other? Juz becos they stay together n fuck?

And you say you love her when you meet her and end up like this?
Do you even have any PLAN or PURPOSE for meeting her in the first place?
So you can get some nice tidy explanations for all your questions?
Maybe old man is secretly her father and they are persecuted falungong members and she loves you actually and she is still a virgin?

And she breaks up wif you! Not you break up wif her!
You really deserve it. Hope she slaps you for what you did.

[Tai_zi21]

As predicted. Always the same story different actors only.
Do not be too arrogant. Now the detox & healing begins.
U tink it's all over???
Now its anger, next is loneliness n u will yearn for her.
That's when the final test for u will come.
Contact her again like I say, a heroin addict will only kick the drug when he breaks the most period of strongest urge.
99% will fail. Only the 1% who can totally hv self & mind control & determination will make it.
Dun mean to splash cold water at u but from the way u hv been handling it, u very potential belong to the 99% camp.
Gd luck man, cos the next time u meet her, u will be doomed a million times over.
Last but not least, dun blame her for anything. U made ur own choice & did everything on ur own free will. No one forced u.
Just like this whole thread, everyone tell u run far far but u cannot cos u bung buay loh.
AMEN :D

Wait till she come crawling back to you, seeking for ur forgiveness! U sure u will ask her to fuck off?

Agree with da ge, it only the beginning

[nigelT]

China girls 100% street smart,
cunning, practical
but damn powerful GFF and great Fuck most of the time

China guys control them better than Sporean guys whom we are often seen as softies
That is a fact, its not a sweeping statement

Conclusion ? Chin Na girls good for small 3 or part time companion only
Glad TS wake up already
Imagine you have done so many things for her, let alone your emotional stress
and you couldnt even got her into bed
where as the old man dunno used her how many times already?

[tshirt]

I think you are a bit out of touch with reality bro.

This girl has never been nice to you. Never treated you like a real bf that she loves or even like.

And you already found out some of her dirty secrets in HK, and yet you keep defending her and hoping she is a nice girl?
Even after you talked to the old man, you still want to see her, treat her to an expensive steak (the money which you could have spent on yourself or your mum or a nice girl in the future).

And when you expose her secrets, she lies again, and she is the one who breaks up with you????? You don't have much dignity do you?

You should have followed what the member above said, ask to meet her, then don't show up, play with her mind for months. Let her keep questioning herself why in the world did you dump her and didn't show up.

Right from HK, when you know her dirty secret and that she is untrustworthy, you should only stay if she is giving you sex for free. That is the only reason to keep this type of girl.

[Saddness]

I agreed with u t-shirt

Thinking back, I am not a man of dignity after when she have done.

I treat this as a heavy lesson learnt n the 1.2k I spent on her, treat it as a lesson for me, anyway I slim down a lot the to her issue, treat this $ as 'slimming treatment'

It makes me better in person on term of looks n wisdom after this nightmare...I will be a better person in future n will always take the tips from the kind ppl here....a man must have the winning mentality to win over woman , I woke up a little later but I still survive...thanks to her, I am wiser a little now

P/S: I do not like to play ppl out , eg do not turn up, anyway the $80 I spent last night, is worth it...at least makes me knew her character, confirm she is a smooth talker n professional liar, seen with my own eyes...a small price to pay rather than I keep going crazy over her ...before the Truth is out last night

I also learnt, never judge a book by its cover, a pretty, well dressed n smart lady with an old taxi driver, enough oy be her dad, really astound me...then I know why people always talk about china gal

Thanks thanks all, I woke up n now moving in the right direction

Wishing all a great Wednesday!

[HCKing]

China girls 100% street smart,
cunning, practical
but damn powerful GFF and great Fuck most of the time

China guys control them better than Sporean guys whom we are often seen as softies
That is a fact, its not a sweeping statement

Conclusion ? Chin Na girls good for small 3 or part time companion only
Glad TS wake up already
Imagine you have done so many things for her, let alone your emotional stress
and you couldnt even got her into bed
where as the old man dunno used her how many times already?

actually china girls are capable of giving their all - provided they truly love their other half. which obviously isnt applicable to TS in this case. since he oredi stated that he is not the type of guy the girl wants in his opening post.

[hhlover]

After reading all of TS post, I jus wondering TS shld do some soul searching..
1st of all, allow u to love bite her or even touch all over her doesn't mean anything.. getting intimate is jus a sort of human need which does not required love at all..
2ndly, bring her to hk or even eating good food is TS own way of showing yr love to her but not her requesting u to do it... and from 1st post to ending never have the girl asked u for money or ex gift..
3rdly, staying wit a 50 yrs old man tat drive taxi as sugar daddy jus for his money.. cpf $??? doesn't make sense at all.. how much can a taxi driver earn in the 1st place after deduct rental, parking n petrol, give him the best la.. 12 hour driving $2500 per month.. TS can afford 6 star hotel n good food on her, even couple spa.. Cannot be TS earning less than $2500 rite.. N talking abt cpf $.. taxi driver dun contribute cpf n now there is rule one person cannot take out all his cpf at one shot.. only monthly gov give less than $400..
lastly how much does an 50 yrs old taxi driver have in his cpf worth this girl to wait n be with him...
Jus an advice to TS.. wat u see n wat u think does not always is the truth.. u think u tot but who confirm???? have u even try to understand her or her situation.. all the way only TS guessing n thinking, not wanting sex with u maybe is more than jus love but other reason which cannot be say or hard to say.. TS so call love her ixxit really love or TS jus lust over her..

[Saddness]

Thanks, she did mention before she stay with the old man cos there is instant chemistry in them, I did post that, but most bro think is cos of $

The taxi driver might be a businessman or working with cpf
Before he is a can driver,this we don't know n no point to guess now

But I forget to add, she did ask me about whether I have cpf, what my parents working while we having dinner after the spa, I honestly say, no cpf, my patents are poor, I suspect she did consider me before seriously cos I really dote her a lot, but hearing about the negative things about me no cpf, my is parents poor, I work myself up, perhaps that's is part if the blowing hit n cold

If she was right about the instant chemistry , but she lied almost everything, reflect badly on her, just I do lust her, but I also love her a lot, now is over, I will learnt from here.

[htcsony]

I just broke up with my gf also, who is from china, but its entirely because of my fault, as i dunno how to hold on to her. she is a fl before also, but good girl and is coming back to sg soon i think. I broke her heart, i am sorry to her.
she used to be kiki under watermelon bro de website de

[Lindblum]

let's close this

[Villian]

China has 1.3Billion population, there are as many bad ladies as good ladies..

Many of them are here to make a living, and they can resort to all sorts of methods.

Their thinking, - Make money & Men only wanna fuck.
Our thinking, Fuck ladies & Spend money.

So if you choose to go into a love game with them, which is usually cynical.. then YOU only have yourself to blame.

[Arucard]

one thing for sure she had something to hide. And thats a major red light. i think you should cool down a bit. stop seeing her and clearing your mind for sometime. i think you should be able to know the answer when your mind are clear from all sort of wild thought u are having now.

and dont be afraid you will lose her during this time if she really love u, she will not give up on u.

[SocialCircle]

I feel tat for a guy to know got at least some chance
1)the basic stuff a gal will ask, is for guy's personal info like birthday la, like wat food.
2)communication is not one way.

If it's always the guy making the first move, then just change target.
Best way to prevent heartbreak is have a few choices.

For your case on givin lovebite, maybe she foreseen she not seeing any of her boyfriends n allows u to do Tat.
So when in hongkong, she knows the stakes r high n cannot get intimate Wif u. Probably she meeting someone back home n cannot have lovebites.

It's good u seen her true colors. Probably one day she need help will come n find u.