Inexperienced looking for guidance on winning girlfriend

[dancerteo]

Hi, as most of you would think I am not serious in any kind of relationship due to my last post but yesterday, by selling an item , I met a pretty girl two years younger than me. I have her phone number and I am dying for her to be my girlfriend so any tips to whatsapp her and not make her freak out? Thanks.

[Johnston]

Hi, as most of you would think I am not serious in any kind of relationship due to my last post but yesterday, by selling an item , I met a pretty girl two years younger than me. I have her phone number and it.

Yes
I think u are not serious in relationship because at 2.23pm u post u have gf and at 2.26 pm u post u need help to find a gf.....

Even the most hardcore playa i know also not so hardcore until like that:rolleyes:

It is also my duty to inform u it is illegal under any circumstance for either of your mouth, hands, or genitals to have any contact with each other or for any images of her private parts to be sent to u

However the law is quite ambigous on her putting on shows for u and all the other stuff u can do sexily without having any mouth, genitals or hand contact

If u do sian her - i will be happy to pour a decades worth of sexy knowledge into your brain :D

[dancerteo]

Hi, I wrote Ive found a suitable girl to be my girlfriend means that I found her suitable to be my girlfriend which means she does not know I like her and she is not my girlfriend

[wolflust]

There are no methods, formulas or laws, this is not Maths or Science. Try it out, if fail take it as a lesson. Don't say just because you came from a boys school, you have no experience dealing with girls. A lot of us came from boys schools and knowledge of such things are gained by trial and error.

Now you taking it as though you are trying to solve a Maths or Science problem. Why don't you just relax and try it out on how to form a relationship? Furthermore you'll be entering poly or jc soon and there are lots of opportunities there for you to meet girls of your age.

[dancerteo]

Thanks a lot @wolflust. That gave me a lot more confidence and inspiration. but im not quite sure how to start, and im scared that if i message her, it will freak her out and i get rejected

[bigbrudder]

Pardon me for being blunt ... they way you talk ah, what if this ... what if that ... IF I am the ger, I also dunno what you want.

Just prepare for the worse, take a deep breathe ... and talk to her. What's the worst case? She is gay.

Lim bei ga ler kong ... if you like her so much ... you can stalk her, follow her everywhere ... take a gunny sack and put her inside. After that, charter a plane ... drop off at a deserted island. You be Tarzan and her Jane. Simper?

[FatSpider]

two words = be yourself

but if how you present yourself in your post = your real self...better change yourself

[Sirrus]

u dont win a woman. you get to know a person....your mentality is already wrong.....

talk to her like you want to be friends, a person who can share anything together.

she not just a slab of meat put down on earth for your pleasure. respect that. there is no tip that we can offer on how to talk to her. i can only offer a tip on how you should look at her

[hardpoke]

Thanks a lot @wolflust. That gave me a lot more confidence and inspiration. but im not quite sure how to start, and im scared that if i message her, it will freak her out and i get rejected
just text her this - 我喜欢你，你要不要我的D?

short, swift, sharp and sweet :cool:

[dancerteo]

Thanks guys. I find some of you guys really helpful and I really dont want thia golden chance to be missed...

[FatSpider]

Thanks guys. I find some of you guys really helpful and I really dont want thia golden chance to be missed...

a girl is not a "golden chance"

[starbucks]

just text her this - 我喜欢你，你要不要我的D?

short, swift, sharp and sweet :cool:

What the 'D' thingy? Dick?

[hardpoke]

What the 'D' thingy? Dick?
haha ya.. :p it's a term used in 9gag.. :D

[hardpoke]

Thanks guys. I find some of you guys really helpful and I really dont want thia golden chance to be missed...
TS, ok lar i be serious with you.. you are overly and unnecessarily excited.. it's cruel to crush a young man's dream, but when you grow up in another 10 - 20 years time, you will realise the world is bigger than you thought.. use your time and drive to achieve something more important.. not that love is not important, but ultimately you are now at a stage where you naively think love is all you need.. now I tell you, no it is not.. you need much more than that in the coming years.. and chances are that your relationships will go through many changes until you settle down on one for life.. and believe it or not, she might not even be amongst the top 20 prettiest you've seen.. experience the phase, but do not get to obsessed with it.. making money more important.. i mean unless you are a heir to a certain big fortune lar.. then i lan lan siao siao.. :rolleyes:

[lotsfits80]

What girls like:
1.you making decisions, but still will happily change your decision to suit her.
2.talk what you feel without being needy or weak
3.tease her in words, but treat her in actions (tease, don't insult!)
4.ask if she wants to join u for anything, but not asking her permission to date her. They like the feeling of being invited instead of pressured into decisions.
5.confident but not arrogant


If you're afraid of running out of topics when being with her, make your dates short! Send short messages but long answers.

[BMW69]

1. Thanks for the deal (yesterday or whatever relevant date). Is the item ok?
2. Wait for reply

Easier than 1, 2, 3. 2 steps only

[bigbrudder]

Thanks guys. I find some of you guys really helpful and I really dont want thia golden chance to be missed...

Honestly, you should make an attempt to understand what she is like. If she is the sort that rattle non stop ... then you be a good listener lor. If she is the sort that expects you to create conversation, then you try to talk and find out what is close to her heart.

If all else fail, you tell her you got 13 inch dick, then pull down your pants ....

[hardpoke]

1. Thanks for the deal (yesterday or whatever relevant date). Is the item ok?
2. Wait for reply

Easier than 1, 2, 3. 2 steps only
let me have a go too :D

1. hi babe, sorry but I realised I have overcharged you for that item.. ): it was an overlook on my part.. are you free tomorrow to meet up so I can pass you back the difference? and if you are kind enough to let me feel less guilty about this, i would sincerely love to make it up to you with a dinner.. may I? (:

if she is interested in you, she would ask you where to have dinner.. please bring her to some place with nice ambience.. first impression involves not only physical appearance.. :cool:

if she is not interested in you, she will ask you how much is the difference, just pay her the difference will do.. then tell her it is a difference of $0.10.. :rolleyes:

if u kena other scenario, solve it yourself or shout for help here.. :D

[hardpoke]

Honestly, you should make an attempt to understated what she is like. If she is the sort that rattle non stop ... then you be a good listener lor. If she is the sort that expects you to create conversation, then you try to talk and find out what is close to her heart.

If all else fail, you tell her you got 13 inch dick, then pull down your pants ....
13 inch dick?! :eek: asians a bit hard lar..

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/555/541/940/l_strap-ons-dildo-vibrator-realistic-penis-sex-toys-gay-2b0c.jpg

he might need this.. :D

[bigbrudder]

13 inch dick?! :eek: asians a bit hard lar..

http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/555/541/940/l_strap-ons-dildo-vibrator-realistic-penis-sex-toys-gay-2b0c.jpg

he might need this.. :D

Ha ha ... wah ... he then belly powerful leh. The strap-on for the front and the real dick for the ass.

[Taisho75]

Just curious...

How did you get her number? If you ask her yourself and she gave u, chances are she ok with u. Why you afraid she will be frighten off if you whatsapp or sms her, unless you secretly got her number from someone/ some other means?

Call her to chat is better than sms or whatsapp. Most impt thing is to be her friend first, get to know here, be yourself and most importantly dun "fake". Ask her out if the chatting is getting somewhere, else dun even try if the conversation gets boring with a single reply from her as it shows she is not interested.

[dancerteo]

Haha thanks bro, I was about to ask her for a date and now Ill have to work it out slowly. But I dont know why I still dont have the courage to even message her. Help me

[dancerteo]

@Taisho75 I got her number when she wants to meetup to buy sonething fron me. Now she wants to buy another thing so I think ill try out bmw69 and hardpoke methods. Thanks all for the help currently.

[dancerteo]

Oh ya! I actually believe in love spells so does anyone have such things.

[Lindblum]

@Taisho75 I got her number when she wants to meetup to buy sonething fron me. Now she wants to buy another thing so I think ill try out bmw69 and hardpoke methods. Thanks all for the help currently.

sorry to burst your bubble, but she has no interest in you. Its not about how to nail her, but more like how you can avoid looking like the rest of the guys

[Lindblum]

To add on, every guy in your same situation will try to ask her and get to know her. She's no stranger to it. I dont suggest anything other than making small talk, and say goodbye. Keep her on the back burner until she willingly takes a step forward to befriend you. Otherwise you're just like the rest of them, and she will make friends with you to get discounts thats it.

[dancerteo]

But I really want her to be my gf that much.

[Lindblum]

let me have a go too :D

1. hi babe, sorry but I realised I have overcharged you for that item.. ): it was an overlook on my part.. are you free tomorrow to meet up so I can pass you back the difference? and if you are kind enough to let me feel less guilty about this, i would sincerely love to make it up to you with a dinner.. may I? (:

if she is interested in you, she would ask you where to have dinner.. please bring her to some place with nice ambience.. first impression involves not only physical appearance.. :cool:

if she is not interested in you, she will ask you how much is the difference, just pay her the difference will do.. then tell her it is a difference of $0.10.. :rolleyes:

if u kena other scenario, solve it yourself or shout for help here.. :D

Bro, this is the sneak attack situation in my Guide that I strongly tell people to avoid doing. Its really creepy to a girl because your intentions are so obvious, and the dinner thing? This is not the way to chase girls man.

[Lindblum]

But I really want her to be my gf that much.

Girls are all over the place. Get used to it. She's not the first girl, and won't be the last around.

[hermit1313]

first ask her out, once she gets comfortable with you and hope you knows it... well for me, direct approach works best... take and hold her hand...

[dancerteo]

Oh no, things took a real drastic turn. I whatsapped her and there are two ticks ( meant she saw ut) but she did not reply... :(

[dancerteo]

She finally replied ' any trades' as I whatsapped her if she is still interested in the item I sold. What should I type next?

[Johnston]

*raises eyebrow

you need some help
like
now.

PM me with your wechat or line

hurry.:eek:

[dancerteo]

Hi johnson i really need help, I havnt open her message yet. Whatsapp me at 0 to guide me please. Thanks

[Johnston]

did u just do the epic failz of posting your number out in the open in a sex forum>?????
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[dancerteo]

Hi everyone, thanks for your help and still at last I failed to ask her out... And ill get over it quickly. Thanks all.

[Lindblum]

you gotta be joking man . I already told you not to do it . Now you've just become like one of those boys . I saw your PM but I already said from Day 1 , I don't take in students who cannot follow instructions . You hardly know her and you say you're in love ? So is every other boy then . Think really hard why you failed . It wasn't the technique , it wasn't your face . It was all about the set up and timing . your relationship with her only existed as a seller and buyer .

I hope you did not do the 10cent refund thing because I don't even want to claim to be your teacher or know you if you did that .

Stay positive and learn to listen to instructions next time. Read my Guide thread in this same forum . I have countless of people PMing me the same stuff every now and then about really liking one girl , and die die have to get that one . it does not exist . You either learn or continue to fail and wonder why is it every pretty girl is rejecting you . I also warned agajnst the Sneak Attack method .

This Sneak Attack is like asking an innocent question "what is your number, i would like to thank you and know more about your church/organization" Do you realize how super creepy this is ? yet why do you idiots keep doing it. Chasing girls isn't about Tricks . She is not a dog .

[dancerteo]

Im sorry @lindblum I should have heed your advice but failed to do so. Ill remember this and will try it out next time.

[hardpoke]

Bro, this is the sneak attack situation in my Guide that I strongly tell people to avoid doing. Its really creepy to a girl because your intentions are so obvious, and the dinner thing? This is not the way to chase girls man.
i believe there are more than 101 ways to do different things, including chasing girls.. what makes yours right and mine wrong, or even vice versa? methods are subjective, dependent on the different characteristics and situations..

my point to him right from the beginning was to go for the broke, if the sign is right then continue, if the sign is no where near right then dun waste his time.. if he is agreeable, he can take reference from my "msg".. if he disagrees, it remains my opinion and his choice..

[hardpoke]

you gotta be joking man . I already told you not to do it . Now you've just become like one of those boys . I saw your PM but I already said from Day 1 , I don't take in students who cannot follow instructions . You hardly know her and you say you're in love ? So is every other boy then . Think really hard why you failed . It wasn't the technique , it wasn't your face . It was all about the set up and timing . your relationship with her only existed as a seller and buyer .

I hope you did not do the 10cent refund thing because I don't even want to claim to be your teacher or know you if you did that .

Stay positive and learn to listen to instructions next time. Read my Guide thread in this same forum . I have countless of people PMing me the same stuff every now and then about really liking one girl , and die die have to get that one . it does not exist . You either learn or continue to fail and wonder why is it every pretty girl is rejecting you . I also warned agajnst the Sneak Attack method .

This Sneak Attack is like asking an innocent question "what is your number, i would like to thank you and know more about your church/organization" Do you realize how super creepy this is ? yet why do you idiots keep doing it. Chasing girls isn't about Tricks . She is not a dog .

firstly, you readily assumed he used my method? are you going on a personal attack here?

secondly, my reply of 10cents is only if that girl shows no interest and he deems it as a waste of time to even continue going after her..

thirdly, even if he did, it is a personal choice of his.. why are you going so harsh on him? so what if it failed? you are talking as though you are his father and he shamed your reputation by doing something that hurt you.. why? this is his own life, no need for you to dictate.. just leave your opinions here, he makes his own choice..

your intention of sharing methods to chase girls is commendable, but your "only my methods are right" thinking irks me at least.. not everyone hits the jackpot immediately, if he failed once, he should find another way to get it back right if he thinks she is worth it.. it applies to this girl, it applies to his life.. what's the big deal with failing? it just means method A failed, try method B C D E F G until you get it right.. if he finds her worth it, make the damn efforts to get her back on track.. simple as that.. and if you think you can help and want to help, help.. running him and people's opinions down doesn't make you God..

[hardpoke]

Im sorry @lindblum I should have heed your advice but failed to do so. Ill remember this and will try it out next time.
young boy, like what I mentioned above, failure is nothing until you accept it.. if you think you really like her, and she is worth your effort, go try and get her back.. it applies to this girl and it applies to what you do in life later on.. dun stop at failure.. not many people hits the jackpot at the first go..

and as to how to get her back, i think you can consult Mr Know-It-All if he is still willing to teach you.. just remember, not everyone's methods work on every girls.. when somebody's methods failed, he will tell you the same thing.. try another method.. the difference is, will he trash you first before saying that or encourages you first before helping you again.. :rolleyes:

[dancerteo]

Hi hardpoke, Thanks for the encouragement and ill get over it quickly, i agree that i should try other methods thanks again

[bigbrudder]

you gotta be joking man . I already told you not to do it . Now you've just become like one of those boys . I saw your PM but I already said from Day 1 , I don't take in students who cannot follow instructions . You hardly know her and you say you're in love ? So is every other boy then . Think really hard why you failed . It wasn't the technique , it wasn't your face . It was all about the set up and timing . your relationship with her only existed as a seller and buyer .

I hope you did not do the 10cent refund thing because I don't even want to claim to be your teacher or know you if you did that .

Stay positive and learn to listen to instructions next time. Read my Guide thread in this same forum . I have countless of people PMing me the same stuff every now and then about really liking one girl , and die die have to get that one . it does not exist . You either learn or continue to fail and wonder why is it every pretty girl is rejecting you . I also warned agajnst the Sneak Attack method .

This Sneak Attack is like asking an innocent question "what is your number, i would like to thank you and know more about your church/organization" Do you realize how super creepy this is ? yet why do you idiots keep doing it. Chasing girls isn't about Tricks . She is not a dog .

Wah ... you sound very pro. How do you know whether it works or not until you test water. I don't think creating an opportunity to talk is a bad strategy. The worse strategy is to not try and to wonder what 'may have been'.

Whatever that don't kill you will make you stronger?

[Meow^^]

This thread really amuse me early in the morning...lol. Srsly, why TS dont ask from a girls point of view? I guess it would be more easy to realise your mistakes :D

[Lindblum]

firstly, you readily assumed he used my method? are you going on a personal attack here?

secondly, my reply of 10cents is only if that girl shows no interest and he deems it as a waste of time to even continue going after her..

thirdly, even if he did, it is a personal choice of his.. why are you going so harsh on him? so what if it failed? you are talking as though you are his father and he shamed your reputation by doing something that hurt you.. why? this is his own life, no need for you to dictate.. just leave your opinions here, he makes his own choice..

your intention of sharing methods to chase girls is commendable, but your "only my methods are right" thinking irks me at least.. not everyone hits the jackpot immediately, if he failed once, he should find another way to get it back right if he thinks she is worth it.. it applies to this girl, it applies to his life.. what's the big deal with failing? it just means method A failed, try method B C D E F G until you get it right.. if he finds her worth it, make the damn efforts to get her back on track.. simple as that.. and if you think you can help and want to help, help.. running him and people's opinions down doesn't make you God..

Bro, first let me apologize. I am not attacking you in any way. I am glad he did not use the 10cent method.

Most guys here don't like the things I am saying because it seems like "I know it all". I do not know it all, but I won't play the humble pie either. I have dedicated years and efforts to read, change, and literally transform myself into someone else so that I may chase girls better. I don't treat chasing girls as a side hobby, see a pretty girl, try my luck. I treat it like a job. Its the one thing that gives me pleasure in life. Although I may have a real job, skirt chasing feels like my number one priority. Why I am saying this, is because I want you to know Ive tried all those methods before and fell hard on my face. I frequently read books on human psychology and marketing to know how girls and guys think. You may choose to dismiss it as being "bo liao, have nothing better to do" but I don't care. And I'm going to explain in my next post why TS failed to nail her, and his possible options.

[bigbrudder]

Bro, first let me apologize. I am not attacking you in any way. I am glad he did not use the 10cent method.

Most guys here don't like the things I am saying because it seems like "I know it all". I do not know it all, but I won't play the humble pie either. I have dedicated years and efforts to read, change, and literally transform myself into someone else so that I may chase girls better. I don't treat chasing girls as a side hobby, see a pretty girl, try my luck. I treat it like a job. Its the one thing that gives me pleasure in life. Although I may have a real job, skirt chasing feels like my number one priority. Why I am saying this, is because I want you to know Ive tried all those methods before and fell hard on my face. I frequently read books on human psychology and marketing to know how girls and guys think. You may choose to dismiss it as being "bo liao, have nothing better to do" but I don't care. And I'm going to explain in my next post why TS failed to nail her, and his possible options.

Humans are very dynamic creature, and this trait separates us from the animals. Chemistry between people, I hazard to say ... is an art form. If you approach it from a scientific, logical angle, doesn't sound right.

Most of the time, the Don Juan de Marco or Casanova characters are fictional.

[dancerteo]

Hi, actually I dont blame anyone for that but thank all of you. It is my first time and although the feeling of rejection is hard to ease off, ill try to continue to ask her again for the next few days

[dancerteo]

And what is TS?

[BMW69]

And what is TS?

Thread starter.

So curiously, what did you ask her then

[Lindblum]

Why TS failed:

1) His relationship existed as a buyer/seller. It started from there. This is a purely business relationship. Which means, whenever that girl thinks of TS, she is instantly reminded that he is her seller.

2) He was too quick to show interest in the girl. Girls pick up on that very easily. Believe it or not, every time a new guy talks to a girl, the first thing she thinks is whether the guy is interested in her. It could come from the way he talks to her, or the way he texts her. If he is texting "Haha" or "lol " or emoticons, she is instantly alerted to his interest. Unless you are amazingly rich, or amazingly good looking, or you have a very unique product like cocaine or heroin that she cannot get else where, being quick to show interest would only make her distant herself from you.

Possible Solutions:

1) Stop being the nice guy. Since your relationship exists as a buyer/seller, make it such that she will never forget. Let me guess, when she asks you for a product, you probably reply lots of "Hahas" or "lolx" and tease her a little bit. This is very standard of ah beng sellers in Lucky Plaza or Sim Lim. They see a pretty girl buying a product, they get her number, and try the "you naughty ah" on her. This is really stupid. Become the asshole who tells her "you took too long to reply. Now its gone" . SHe has to remember you this way, otherwise you will be like all the other guys around her. Be a jerk. When she asks you, be aggressive and say something like "it'll be here when it gets here" Keep it simple, keep it plain, no Hahas, no Lol, no emoticons. She will be curious why you are being a jerk to her. Being a jerk to her as a seller does have its benefits. She knows she cannot get anything from you, and will try to get in your favor. This is a complete contrast if you had gone all nice in updating her on your products, being nice to her every request to meet here or there. If you have to sell her something, make her go the extra mile to meet you somewhere inconvenient for her instead of her convenience. Don't be afraid she might choose another seller. She is just one girl in an ocean.

2) She has to be kept on the back burner. This means, she must never be the main girl you are going after. Timing is everything here. There will be a day she will talk a little more than usual or ask you "why are you like that". That is the time to strike. Think of her as a sleeper agent. They are not activated until the time arrives. Its the same thing. This means stop texting her, stop calling her, stop trying to be her friend. When she asks for something, send a reply like "NO !!" and dont explain or reply until a few hours later to keep her wondering why you would say that. Then after that, act like nothing happened and "Whats up"

We PUA manipulate emotions, dont forget that. Picking Up girls is an art, no doubt. But to the people who do this, a small mistake can easily get on our nerves, because it is not done to perfection. Ask my students who I take in. I have really high standards of behavior, especially the way they talk, text, and behave. Bigbrudder, I dont need to prove to you I exist. You can either choose to believe it, or keep wondering why is it some guys nail more girls than others. It is never a "natural instinct"

[Meow^^]

Why TS failed:

1) His relationship existed as a buyer/seller. It started from there. This is a purely business relationship. Which means, whenever that girl thinks of TS, she is instantly reminded that he is her seller.

2) He was too quick to show interest in the girl. Girls pick up on that very easily. Believe it or not, every time a new guy talks to a girl, the first thing she thinks is whether the guy is interested in her. It could come from the way he talks to her, or the way he texts her. If he is texting "Haha" or "lol " or emoticons, she is instantly alerted to his interest. Unless you are amazingly rich, or amazingly good looking, or you have a very unique product like cocaine or heroin that she cannot get else where, being quick to show interest would only make her distant herself from you.

Possible Solutions:

1) Stop being the nice guy. Since your relationship exists as a buyer/seller, make it such that she will never forget. Let me guess, when she asks you for a product, you probably reply lots of "Hahas" or "lolx" and tease her a little bit. This is very standard of ah beng sellers in Lucky Plaza or Sim Lim. They see a pretty girl buying a product, they get her number, and try the "you naughty ah" on her. This is really stupid. Become the asshole who tells her "you took too long to reply. Now its gone" . SHe has to remember you this way, otherwise you will be like all the other guys around her. Be a jerk. When she asks you, be aggressive and say something like "it'll be here when it gets here" Keep it simple, keep it plain, no Hahas, no Lol, no emoticons. She will be curious why you are being a jerk to her. Being a jerk to her as a seller does have its benefits. She knows she cannot get anything from you, and will try to get in your favor. This is a complete contrast if you had gone all nice in updating her on your products, being nice to her every request to meet here or there. If you have to sell her something, make her go the extra mile to meet you somewhere inconvenient for her instead of her convenience. Don't be afraid she might choose another seller. She is just one girl in an ocean.

2) She has to be kept on the back burner. This means, she must never be the main girl you are going after. Timing is everything here. There will be a day she will talk a little more than usual or ask you "why are you like that". That is the time to strike. Think of her as a sleeper agent. They are not activated until the time arrives. Its the same thing. This means stop texting her, stop calling her, stop trying to be her friend. When she asks for something, send a reply like "NO !!" and dont explain or reply until a few hours later to keep her wondering why you would say that. Then after that, act like nothing happened and "Whats up"

We PUA manipulate emotions, dont forget that. Picking Up girls is an art, no doubt. But to the people who do this, a small mistake can easily get on our nerves, because it is not done to perfection. Ask my students who I take in. I have really high standards of behavior, especially the way they talk, text, and behave. Bigbrudder, I dont need to prove to you I exist. You can either choose to believe it, or keep wondering why is it some guys nail more girls than others. It is never a "natural instinct"

Can Take me as your student? :o

[Lindblum]

Hi, actually I dont blame anyone for that but thank all of you. It is my first time and although the feeling of rejection is hard to ease off, ill try to continue to ask her again for the next few days

do not do it

[hardpoke]

Bro, first let me apologize. I am not attacking you in any way. I am glad he did not use the 10cent method.

Most guys here don't like the things I am saying because it seems like "I know it all". I do not know it all, but I won't play the humble pie either. I have dedicated years and efforts to read, change, and literally transform myself into someone else so that I may chase girls better. I don't treat chasing girls as a side hobby, see a pretty girl, try my luck. I treat it like a job. Its the one thing that gives me pleasure in life. Although I may have a real job, skirt chasing feels like my number one priority. Why I am saying this, is because I want you to know Ive tried all those methods before and fell hard on my face. I frequently read books on human psychology and marketing to know how girls and guys think. You may choose to dismiss it as being "bo liao, have nothing better to do" but I don't care. And I'm going to explain in my next post why TS failed to nail her, and his possible options.

no problem about the apology.. but just to clarify myself again, the 10cents thingie is not a method.. my statement was more of a tongue in cheek sentence.. in the case where TS feels this girl is trying to hang him in the air and thinks she is not worth further efforts, just piss her off by saying 10cents difference.. it was never meant to be a method..

again, i mentioned your effort in sharing is commendable and i still think it is.. but what bro bigbrudder said is right too.. your equations might be applicable in most scenarios but never all scenarios.. mainly because we are humans and everyone reacts differently.. even asking a fellow sis (sorry ah sis meow :p), who is supposedly the best person to ask since she is a lady, may not apply if that target has different personality and characteristic to that sis..

so yes, basically what i am trying to say is, you would be much more appreciated if you could add humility to your tone instead of giving people the "cock sure" feel.. not trying to teach you how to live your life, just my 2cents worth, up to you to heed or ignore.. peace..

[hardpoke]

This thread really amuse me early in the morning...lol. Srsly, why TS dont ask from a girls point of view? I guess it would be more easy to realise your mistakes :D
tmd.. i tot u're a sis.. LOL :D

[dancerteo]

Hi @lindblum. , then what should I do now to chase her back as it seems a little awkward now to talk to her. @BMW69 I wrote : Hi, im not interested in any of your items but I can give it to you for free.
I really like u, would you like to catch a movie with me? Direct copy paste. And she replied Nah, its ok. Then I wrote : Yeah Sure, no pressure. So it is a lil awkward now to talk to her so can someone please advise me what I should do next to win her heart back. Im really confused now and I think Im a real failure. :( U really cant bear to just lose this chance of being her boyfriend. Maybe it might be karma, s I I rejected someone before a few years ago and now this girl that is the first girl I actually have a crush on rejected me.

[hardpoke]

Why TS failed:

1) His relationship existed as a buyer/seller. It started from there. This is a purely business relationship. Which means, whenever that girl thinks of TS, she is instantly reminded that he is her seller.

2) He was too quick to show interest in the girl. Girls pick up on that very easily. Believe it or not, every time a new guy talks to a girl, the first thing she thinks is whether the guy is interested in her. It could come from the way he talks to her, or the way he texts her. If he is texting "Haha" or "lol " or emoticons, she is instantly alerted to his interest. Unless you are amazingly rich, or amazingly good looking, or you have a very unique product like cocaine or heroin that she cannot get else where, being quick to show interest would only make her distant herself from you.

Possible Solutions:

1) Stop being the nice guy. Since your relationship exists as a buyer/seller, make it such that she will never forget. Let me guess, when she asks you for a product, you probably reply lots of "Hahas" or "lolx" and tease her a little bit. This is very standard of ah beng sellers in Lucky Plaza or Sim Lim. They see a pretty girl buying a product, they get her number, and try the "you naughty ah" on her. This is really stupid. Become the asshole who tells her "you took too long to reply. Now its gone" . SHe has to remember you this way, otherwise you will be like all the other guys around her. Be a jerk. When she asks you, be aggressive and say something like "it'll be here when it gets here" Keep it simple, keep it plain, no Hahas, no Lol, no emoticons. She will be curious why you are being a jerk to her. Being a jerk to her as a seller does have its benefits. She knows she cannot get anything from you, and will try to get in your favor. This is a complete contrast if you had gone all nice in updating her on your products, being nice to her every request to meet here or there. If you have to sell her something, make her go the extra mile to meet you somewhere inconvenient for her instead of her convenience. Don't be afraid she might choose another seller. She is just one girl in an ocean.

2) She has to be kept on the back burner. This means, she must never be the main girl you are going after. Timing is everything here. There will be a day she will talk a little more than usual or ask you "why are you like that". That is the time to strike. Think of her as a sleeper agent. They are not activated until the time arrives. Its the same thing. This means stop texting her, stop calling her, stop trying to be her friend. When she asks for something, send a reply like "NO !!" and dont explain or reply until a few hours later to keep her wondering why you would say that. Then after that, act like nothing happened and "Whats up"

We PUA manipulate emotions, dont forget that. Picking Up girls is an art, no doubt. But to the people who do this, a small mistake can easily get on our nerves, because it is not done to perfection. Ask my students who I take in. I have really high standards of behavior, especially the way they talk, text, and behave. Bigbrudder, I dont need to prove to you I exist. You can either choose to believe it, or keep wondering why is it some guys nail more girls than others. It is never a "natural instinct"

not going to comment on your solutions because i always believe solutions are subjective..

as for your existence as a PUA, you definitely have no need to prove to bigbrudder or anyone.. and definitely we are well aware that there are reasons why 'some guys nail more girls than others'.. not being able to "accomplish" as just as much, it either means we are not putting in the same efforts or we have different preferences on how to go about doing such things.. so yup, keep to your game, we keep to ours..

[hardpoke]

Hi @lindblum. , then what should I do now to chase her back as it seems a little awkward now to talk to her. @BMW69 I wrote : Hi, im not interested in any of your items but I can give it to you for free.
I really like u, would you like to catch a movie with me? Direct copy paste. And she replied Nah, its ok. Then I wrote : Yeah Sure, no pressure. So it is a lil awkward now to talk to her so can someone please advise me what I should do next to win her heart back. Im really confused now and I think Im a real failure. :( U really cant bear to just lose this chance of being her boyfriend. Maybe it might be karma, s I I rejected someone before a few years ago and now this girl that is the first girl I actually have a crush on rejected me.
hello friend, so are you the buyer or the seller? you are confusing us with your inputs.. :confused:

and by the way, you got balls.. really.. damn straightforward.. :D

[Meow^^]

tmd.. i tot u're a sis.. LOL :D

Hmmmm.....maybe, you are right...or maybe you got it wrong? but that is never an issue.:D

[hardpoke]

Hmmmm.....maybe, you are right...or maybe you got it wrong? but that is never an issue.:D

no leh.. i remember reading in dunno which thread, your replies seem to suggest you are a charbor leh.. hmmmmm.. i go CSI you see see.. :p

[Meow^^]

no leh.. i remember reading in dunno which thread, your replies seem to suggest you are a charbor leh.. hmmmmm.. i go CSI you see see.. :p

=.=

Thank You hor....

[bigbrudder]

Why TS failed:

1) His relationship existed as a buyer/seller. It started from there. This is a purely business relationship. Which means, whenever that girl thinks of TS, she is instantly reminded that he is her seller.

2) He was too quick to show interest in the girl. Girls pick up on that very easily. Believe it or not, every time a new guy talks to a girl, the first thing she thinks is whether the guy is interested in her. It could come from the way he talks to her, or the way he texts her. If he is texting "Haha" or "lol " or emoticons, she is instantly alerted to his interest. Unless you are amazingly rich, or amazingly good looking, or you have a very unique product like cocaine or heroin that she cannot get else where, being quick to show interest would only make her distant herself from you.

Possible Solutions:

1) Stop being the nice guy. Since your relationship exists as a buyer/seller, make it such that she will never forget. Let me guess, when she asks you for a product, you probably reply lots of "Hahas" or "lolx" and tease her a little bit. This is very standard of ah beng sellers in Lucky Plaza or Sim Lim. They see a pretty girl buying a product, they get her number, and try the "you naughty ah" on her. This is really stupid. Become the asshole who tells her "you took too long to reply. Now its gone" . SHe has to remember you this way, otherwise you will be like all the other guys around her. Be a jerk. When she asks you, be aggressive and say something like "it'll be here when it gets here" Keep it simple, keep it plain, no Hahas, no Lol, no emoticons. She will be curious why you are being a jerk to her. Being a jerk to her as a seller does have its benefits. She knows she cannot get anything from you, and will try to get in your favor. This is a complete contrast if you had gone all nice in updating her on your products, being nice to her every request to meet here or there. If you have to sell her something, make her go the extra mile to meet you somewhere inconvenient for her instead of her convenience. Don't be afraid she might choose another seller. She is just one girl in an ocean.

2) She has to be kept on the back burner. This means, she must never be the main girl you are going after. Timing is everything here. There will be a day she will talk a little more than usual or ask you "why are you like that". That is the time to strike. Think of her as a sleeper agent. They are not activated until the time arrives. Its the same thing. This means stop texting her, stop calling her, stop trying to be her friend. When she asks for something, send a reply like "NO !!" and dont explain or reply until a few hours later to keep her wondering why you would say that. Then after that, act like nothing happened and "Whats up"

We PUA manipulate emotions, dont forget that. Picking Up girls is an art, no doubt. But to the people who do this, a small mistake can easily get on our nerves, because it is not done to perfection. Ask my students who I take in. I have really high standards of behavior, especially the way they talk, text, and behave. Bigbrudder, I dont need to prove to you I exist. You can either choose to believe it, or keep wondering why is it some guys nail more girls than others. It is never a "natural instinct"

Self professed Casanova?! We each believe what we like. I have doubts that such a strong believe will yield much success. If you are indeed scoring, then good luck to you.

On the strategy of treating them like dirt ie. 男人不坏，女人不爱 may not work all the time. I think it only works when a connection has been established. Also, what if she is the princess type. You bor hew, I lagi bor hew, then it wouldn't serve any purpose.

[Tai_zi21]

Seriously how old are you TS?

My suggestion would be why not u try to get to know her better first? u dun even know her or her character also! u like her simply is be cos of her looks tat all

she might be very pretty but maybe she has a lousy character? or a bitchy attitude?

[Meow^^]

Seriously how old are you TS?

My suggestion would be why not u try to get to know her better first? u dun even know her or her character also! u like her simply is be cos of her looks tat all

she might be very pretty but maybe she has a lousy character? or a bitchy attitude?

And that's what the girl is thinking also...:D

[hardpoke]

Seriously how old are you TS?

My suggestion would be why not u try to get to know her better first? u dun even know her or her character also! u like her simply is be cos of her looks tat all

she might be very pretty but maybe she has a lousy character? or a bitchy attitude?
if i nv remember wrongly, he is 16 or 17 only.. in another thread, he was looking for sex with 16 years old girls.. then he suddenly saw this girl, 2 years younger than him, and he fell in love.. decided not to look for sex, but choose to go after her instead.. thus his new thread asking for help.. -.-

[Tai_zi21]

if i nv remember wrongly, he is 16 or 17 only.. in another thread, he was looking for sex with 16 years old girls.. then he suddenly saw this girl, 2 years younger than him, and he fell in love.. decided not to look for sex, but choose to go after her instead.. thus his new thread asking for help.. -.-

Sorry my fault i forget something

SCHOOL HOLIDAYS NOW :D

Xdd just forget all abt wat i say to u on my last reply to u

[Meow^^]

if i nv remember wrongly, he is 16 or 17 only.. in another thread, he was looking for sex with 16 years old girls.. then he suddenly saw this girl, 2 years younger than him, and he fell in love.. decided not to look for sex, but choose to go after her instead.. thus his new thread asking for help.. -.-

Wait a minute....meaning you peeps had been trying to help this "under age" DiDi? :eek:

[Unforgiv3n]

Wait a minute....meaning you peeps had been trying to help this "under age" DiDi? :eek:

Fresh out from a boy school

[hardpoke]

Sorry my fault i forget something

SCHOOL HOLIDAYS NOW :D

Xdd just forget all abt wat i say to u on my last reply to u
ya.. hor-li-deh.. -_-"

[hardpoke]

Wait a minute....meaning you peeps had been trying to help this "under age" DiDi? :eek:
initially i was poking fun at this thread.. then i got serious and told him to wake up his idea.. but later see BMW69 bro posted a SMS suggestion, so i play play and follow suit lor.. and the rest is history..... :p

[Taisho75]

Hi @lindblum. , then what should I do now to chase her back as it seems a little awkward now to talk to her. @BMW69 I wrote : Hi, im not interested in any of your items but I can give it to you for free.
I really like u, would you like to catch a movie with me? Direct copy paste. And she replied Nah, its ok. Then I wrote : Yeah Sure, no pressure. So it is a lil awkward now to talk to her so can someone please advise me what I should do next to win her heart back. Im really confused now and I think Im a real failure. :( U really cant bear to just lose this chance of being her boyfriend. Maybe it might be karma, s I I rejected someone before a few years ago and now this girl that is the first girl I actually have a crush on rejected me.

Bro forget it. Dun bother to sms her again till every thing cool off for sometime. U are too straightforward and this will immediately build a wall for u to bang. U still want to bang it? If fail again, then u will have concret wall to bang. :D I believe u are not the first to do it and she has experience it before based on her reply.

Wait for the next oppertunity to come again or u look for the next time to try something else. Just dun scare her off is the main thing u need to do now if u wanna try again. Remember dun sound too desperate in ur next try. U can live without her as there will be better one that will come by.

[dancerteo]

Thank you and why you guys keep mentioning holiday???

[hardpoke]

Thank you and why you guys keep mentioning holiday???
are you on holidays now?

[CumExplorer]

Seriously how old are you TS?

My suggestion would be why not u try to get to know her better first? u dun even know her or her character also! u like her simply is be cos of her looks tat all

she might be very pretty but maybe she has a lousy character? or a bitchy attitude?

bro thanks for upping, return favor and up you 13 pts to you, cheers

like to exchange pts with bros above 5 power, have a nice weekend to all bros :D

[CumExplorer]

Sorry my fault i forget something

SCHOOL HOLIDAYS NOW :D

Xdd just forget all abt wat i say to u on my last reply to u

bro enjoy reading and enjoy holiday fun :D:D

[BMW69]

Hi @lindblum. , then what should I do now to chase her back as it seems a little awkward now to talk to her. @BMW69 I wrote : Hi, im not interested in any of your items but I can give it to you for free.
I really like u, would you like to catch a movie with me? Direct copy paste. And she replied Nah, its ok. Then I wrote : Yeah Sure, no pressure. So it is a lil awkward now to talk to her so can someone please advise me what I should do next to win her heart back. Im really confused now and I think Im a real failure. :( U really cant bear to just lose this chance of being her boyfriend. Maybe it might be karma, s I I rejected someone before a few years ago and now this girl that is the first girl I actually have a crush on rejected me.

Gosh no tact man. No tact. Talk to her first, make sure she knows you better then ask her out. Obviously you don't ask someone out on the second or third message and expect them to agree? If they do then you better be careful. It's going to be that easy for someone else to snatch her from you. And please don't be so cheap. Unless you're selling iPhones, I doubt what you're giving her for free would be of enough value for you to lure her out like that.

[hardpoke]

Gosh no tact man. No tact. Talk to her first, make sure she knows you better then ask her out. Obviously you don't ask someone out on the second or third message and expect them to agree? If they do then you better be careful. It's going to be that easy for someone else to snatch her from you. And please don't be so cheap. Unless you're selling iPhones, I doubt what you're giving her for free would be of enough value for you to lure her out like that.
like the Scary Movie, Michael Jackson used a doll to tempt a kid to follow him.. lol :D

[Lindblum]

I for one do not believe in love at first sight. I believe in sexual attraction first and everything else comes later . Her heart was never yours to begin with, so it's impossible to "win her back". The die was already cast when you were so direct . There's no play here to salvage a sunken ship . The only way here for her to fall madly in love with you is for you to save her life and do a Spider-Man to impress her . Sorry , this case is closed. Let's not continue any further discussing this girl . No buts, no ifs, no sorry because you don't owe anybody anything . I don't intend to read about how much you dream of her etc. I had that feeling once upon a time too, that warm feeling that makes your heart skip a beat when you see her and talk to her . They never ended up as my girlfriend , always someone else's . That feeling is infatuation, and it gets you no where and clouds your judgement

[pleasurehobby]

Be at all and all success shall come to you. Desperation is the seed for mistakes and possbile failures.