Am I In Trouble??

[leekwantew]

Just want to share my story with everyone; personally I'm very inexperienced compared to most of the senior bros here. So maybe they can help me with perspective.

Part 1
I like to prowl Geylang, and most of the time its just window shopping and me getting accosted. I recce/prowl until I know roughly where all the different types of FL congregate and even who the FL OKT and Kua Zui people are.

One day I was prowling as usual; usually when prowling I'll check out the girls and act like I'm a customer, thinking things in my head like "too fat", "too ugly", "pretty but too ex", "Beethoven(see EDMW)" but I never actually order any of them. Very rarely do I actually order any, and usually it's my small head thinking and I regret a lot afterward.

Lets call her 'R'. She was one of these.

One day I was prowling as usual, then I saw R for the first time. Now any GL regular know that the quality of GL FL vary like siao, some can be very hot and some totally cannot make it in any form or way. When i first saw R, I was like "Wah not bad, this one quite good, and also looks quite friendly!"

Small head thinking took over, then I went over and ask her price, which I sometimes do for fun and walk away afterward. She smile and quite me the usual GL price. Something possess me to ask her if everything open and she smile and nod without hesitation.

By that time small head already slap big head down, so I said "Fuck it and go"

In the room, she took everything off as agreed (+1), allowed me to suck her nipples (+1 again), finger a bit and rub her pussy (+1 again), even managed to paint a few times (+1). Unfortunately because I never "prepare" (my anti PE tech is to PCC, a lot), I misfire a few seconds after penetrating.

She laugh and look apologetic (+1, most FL are like "THANK GOD ITS OVER), but we dressed and left the room.

It would be another day of regret for me, but this time I did something different instead of leaving immediately.

I chatted with the OKT, ask him the girl name, when she leaving (in 2 weeks) and whether can get outcall. Left with her name and the OKT number. Just as I was leaving, she came in with another customer (thats how we got the chance to ask her name), I really swear just as she enter the room with a bangala she look in my direction......

Part 2
I spent the next week thinking how great that was, my PE aside. A bit can't forget her. After exactly 1 week I really can't take it anymore. I call the OKT, ask if she still available (she is). Then agree to come down on Sat.

Sat almost 6.30pm I came down and GL was quiet, as if got police raid. The stupid thing was, I cannot remember exactly where I saw her, only roughly roughly in this area. Another more stupid thing, I have a bad memory for faces, so I cannot remember exactly how she look like. I prowl the area like a frustrated tiger, hoping to catch a glimpse of her.

at 7.45pm I almost give up, ready to leave and fuck this, then I got lucky and run into the OKT (I can't recall his face, but recognized him on the spot). I ask him if he still remember me (which he did), i asked about R, and he say "ok you wait here, we opening at around 8".

I sat opposite the house and waited, as time went on, girls started streaming in in cabs and seemingly appearing out of no where. The house I was watching slowly had more and more girls, but I somehow knew none of them was R.

Finally got a bit fed up, walked into the house, made it to the gate when someone tap me on the shoulder. It was her, smiling.

I gesture towards the house and she follow me.

I went in, discuss outcall with the OKT, paid and brought her out.

Went to hotel and bonked her (long story short: she's the FL described in here (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=10351394&postcount=34)

During session, a few things stood out:
During chit chat after 1st shot she showed me pics from her HP, even managed to get a few nice ones of her at MBS (the tourist, non sexual kind) as keepsakes.
She was squirming and moaning (not sure if fake but w/e) as I painted and fingered her
She would be quite aggressive, pulling me closer to her as I missionary pumped her.
When cuddling she would leap on me, hugging me and putting my arm around her
She asked me if I was single, after me saying yes she said that she was too, she cheekily suggested that she should be my GF. After that point, she would sometimes say "My Boyfriend" in a somewhat affectionate way

After times up, we showered together and I brought her back. Offered to treat her drink but she don't want.

[leekwantew]

Part 3
I was expecting her to be gone (she was supposed to go home a few days after Part 2) so I put her at the back of my mind. Alas, fate intervened. I received a call from the OKT saying that she didn't go home after all. I told him I'll think about coming back.

My small head's resistance lasted a few days after the call, and that Saturday I message the OKT and came down for round 3.

I can't really remember a lot about the bonking from round 3. But this is what I remember about the whole event.


Brought her to a different hotel from round 2; and the route we took meant that we have to pass a lot of FLs to get there. While walking she grab my arm and brush her hand against mine. I reciprocated and held her hand all the way to the hotel while walking in front of her. This is the first time I held a girl's hand ever, and the first time I walk around in GL without being accosted, feel damn invincible.

She told me a bit about her family while in between shots. Apparently her parents and only sibling (sister) are both dead.
She never made any mention to calling me her BF, but she did say "GF" then point at herself and smile.
She asked for tips at the end of the session, which I gently refused.
She intro me to her "friend" in Singapore (over phone), someone who can help translate for me (her English very poor and she don't understand the translators I using).

I started to entertain ideas of chu stunt, if I can get her away from her OKT, maybe can get budget bonk :). Sadly her HP didn't work (I got her number at the end of Part 1)

Part 4
Took 2 weeks away from cheonging and I was prowling around as usual when I saw her at her usual spot on Friday night, walk up to her and told her I wanted to see her again but "don't tell Uncle (OKT)", apparently she change phone, so got her new number. Told her I'll call her around Sat 2pm

The hours pass really slowly, like when you're 10 and counting down the hours till CNY/Christmas that kind of thing.

Sat 1.30 I called her, told her I was coming down, she don't really get the message but she got someone to message me that she will be waiting.

Reach GL at 2.30 and the place was in lockdown, I thought to myself "Ho Seah Liao, can sneak out". Finally make contact with her and my heart sink, she's "On duty"

Nego with OKT for 2 hour shot, book hotel and go

At the room, her friend call. He say "why you tell uncle alamak, if never say can pay less money." I say "what to do, I also dunwan tell, but got caught"

Shot 1 was the best sex I ever had, period. My 2IC put up a solid performance for once and she was squirming when I pump her, grabbing my arm, breathing heavily and throwing her head from side to side. Maybe it's real or maybe her acting improve, but it's much better than part 2.

Room was a bit hot as the AC never on before hand, she use her towel carefully wipe my sweat.

OKT call at 1 hour mark, say got Police prowling area, so must be careful. She was quite worried for the remainder of our session.

At the 90 min mark, OKT call say "Exercise cut" so ended up waste my money. Sianz (Did this happen to other bros before?). And she still ask for tips again...

On the way back, I call her 'friend'. Apparently he's working in Singapore (don't know as what), told him that in the future anything I call him better and he ok. Ended with asking him to let me know her status (she's supposed to go back in 2 days if her visa cannot extend)

Epilogue
Its been 4 days since Part 4, never heard from her friend, never call him and never go back to GL to check. Been busy

At this point in time, I'm still interested in bonking her, been trying to KC her so maybe can get cheaper fucks or maybe a bit of pak tor, but as seen in part 4, no luck so far.

Maybe there will be a part 5, maybe no, still dunno.

If she was my FB or my FwB I'll be damn happy.

I don't know if there will be a Part 5. A part of me say "Good thing must enjoy when possible" and another part of me say "You siao ah, 1 month (part 1-4 take place within a 30 day period) already spend $450 on her. Just for reference, I usually go to $30 Petain for bonking and have only gone for online $110/2/90 twice in these 3 years I cheonging. So she break all my records already.

A few thing I want to point out:

She never ask me for money, except the time she ask for tips.
No sob story, so no "My daddy sick, my sister need to pay sch fees" story. Unless you say that she told me her family dead is to make me pity her.
She tried the "I be your GF" thing only twice (part 2 and part 3)
I never buy anything for her nor give her money, all money is paid to OKT for services rendered.


Now for the golden question
AM I BEING LED TO KC TRAP???? IF YES, HOW BAD IS IT?

[justl00king]

Bro, thanks for sharing.

Having read your encounter, sounds like a case of self KC to me.

As long as you are aware of the risk, should be fine for now. Enjoy! ;)

[demonhunter]

She can make you write such a long story , you say leh ?

1000% chop plus stamp plus 30 days money back guarantee you are in the KC pits .

[sammyboyfor]

Read the link in my signature. :rolleyes:

[esssinine]

yes u are in trouble but its ok cos u went looking for it . :p

[maxsee]

As long as u seal up ur wallet tight tight...u wun fall into their trap la...no matter what sob stories they tell u....just treat it as garbage can liao la....:D:D:D

[Stewardess]

You are in trouble. Now, start to think. :rolleyes:

[Nonteerak2553]

100% KC trap.

First of all you keep going to her, shows that your heart got hooked.

Second, her pattern won't out yet, as she still in Sg, wait till back to her own country.

Lastly I read your story, you never mentioned once what's her nationality. I assumed either she's not a PRC or you not a Chinese, thus there's communication break down.

[fishing around]

Agree. 100% KC trap. Do not fall in it.

[pushup]

Better don't fall in love with her or else next time she will suck your $$

Don't zhi zhuo duo qing..:D

[Intltuk]

Bro, from ur story. She is doing wat she do best in the service industry, getting customers to return for `seconds'.

Looks like u're falling for her...but not the other way around.

Only one advice.....Wake up before it's too late.

[toyomi100]

Bro TS

You are not in trouble. Just don't think of her and don't visit her.

[leekwantew]

100% KC trap.

First of all you keep going to her, shows that your heart got hooked.

Second, her pattern won't out yet, as she still in Sg, wait till back to her own country.

Lastly I read your story, you never mentioned once what's her nationality. I assumed either she's not a PRC or you not a Chinese, thus there's communication break down.

I purposely dunwan say her nationality because i dunwan people to focus on it. But she's not PRC

She went back already. Her friend say end of the month come back.

Only fate knows what will happen or what i will do when the time comes

[Nonteerak2553]

But she's not PRC

She went back already. Her friend say end of the month come back.

Only fate knows what will happen or what i will do when the time comes

If you tell what kind of nationality, experts here can tell you what are those standard she will ask from you, those mom sick, brother accident, is outdated. I believe now they capable to create real stories to make you weak.

Since she's not PRC, then I assumed she's a Thai? Correct me if I'm wrong.

You control your own fate, unless you want she to control your fate! I don't know how you feel, but if you want to walk into a pit hole, do stay contact with her.

Well there's always islocated cases where samster have a successful relationship with WL.

Otherwise I wish you good luck! If she's a thai, remember to learn some thai language. :D if she's a Cambodian then learn some Khmer. :p

[singmarine]

Hi Bro,

I am trying to read between your lines. U mean u all the way internal cumshot?

[Ken79]

Hi bro, before she goes back she intros u her fren to let her earn (if any) and also hold a rein on u, since she has kc u already she will start to milk u soon, asking for gifts (that she says she could never afford) and with sob stories.
(father in debt n problems with loan sharks, mother sick, brother need some money to start small business, sister need to go uni, say she has your kid n wants money for abortion n if u say u will marry her she will ask u to buy her house n land in her hometown, etc etc)

before u know it u are in a daze n presenting money to her altar so often but the music n champagne stops once u are dry or u come to your senses, then she will simply move on, u get nothing at the end of the day ofcourse.

[Summerhillt]

Seriously, please wake up your idea. Nb , need boss tell you how many times. Whores are meant for fucking not loving. Even if you are serious , do you have the financial ability to tahan anot. Next time your kids how? Not saying that i look down on whores. I do respect them equally as a normal human being. But please.. be clear about your path.

Let me tell you a story to make you happy.
There is this girl working in a legal fishtank. There is this guy who is a officer in the making , going through ocs and all these shit. Guy went for commercial sex , met the girl. Guy liked the girl , girl liked the guy. Eventually after all the frequent visits and exchange of facebook and whatsapp and texts messages.. they got together. Yes , they even declared in a relationship openly on facebook.
The girl had pictures of her scantily clothed in the fishtank in her facebook display. But the guy don’t care.. just let all his officers friends see. Or maybe those other JC officers do not even know what is a fishtank. But alas , he commissioned.. the girl was even there at his commissioning parade with his parents.
Fast forward , while he was serving and she was serving others as well. Her contract ended. He ord’ed . Both went to Thailand had a thai marriage and lived happily ever after. (or not )
So yes , if you can tahan what people think of you .. than so be it. Its not a fake story.. their facebook are still on.. but I am protecting their privacy. Really respect them.. for making it through.
SO TS BRO. IF YOU CAN TAHAN.. so be it.. what matters is u happy can liao.

[fishing around]

Seriously, please wake up your idea. Nb , need boss tell you how many times. Whores are meant for fucking not loving. Even if you are serious , do you have the financial ability to tahan anot. Next time your kids how? Not saying that i look down on whores. I do respect them equally as a normal human being. But please.. be clear about your path.

Let me tell you a story to make you happy.
There is this girl working in a legal fishtank. There is this guy who is a officer in the making , going through ocs and all these shit. Guy went for commercial sex , met the girl. Guy liked the girl , girl liked the guy. Eventually after all the frequent visits and exchange of facebook and whatsapp and texts messages.. they got together. Yes , they even declared in a relationship openly on facebook.
The girl had pictures of her scantily clothed in the fishtank in her facebook display. But the guy don’t care.. just let all his officers friends see. Or maybe those other JC officers do not even know what is a fishtank. But alas , he commissioned.. the girl was even there at his commissioning parade with his parents.
Fast forward , while he was serving and she was serving others as well. Her contract ended. He ord’ed . Both went to Thailand had a thai marriage and lived happily ever after. (or not )
So yes , if you can tahan what people think of you .. than so be it. Its not a fake story.. their facebook are still on.. but I am protecting their privacy. Really respect them.. for making it through.
SO TS BRO. IF YOU CAN TAHAN.. so be it.. what matters is u happy can liao.

well said bro. up you points for your story and respect for your friend.

[Summerhillt]

yea.. true love do exist.

[Nato17]

Seriously, please wake up your idea. Nb , need boss tell you how many times. Whores are meant for fucking not loving. Even if you are serious , do you have the financial ability to tahan anot. Next time your kids how? Not saying that i look down on whores. I do respect them equally as a normal human being. But please.. be clear about your path.

Let me tell you a story to make you happy.
There is this girl working in a legal fishtank. There is this guy who is a officer in the making , going through ocs and all these shit. Guy went for commercial sex , met the girl. Guy liked the girl , girl liked the guy. Eventually after all the frequent visits and exchange of facebook and whatsapp and texts messages.. they got together. Yes , they even declared in a relationship openly on facebook.
The girl had pictures of her scantily clothed in the fishtank in her facebook display. But the guy don’t care.. just let all his officers friends see. Or maybe those other JC officers do not even know what is a fishtank. But alas , he commissioned.. the girl was even there at his commissioning parade with his parents.
Fast forward , while he was serving and she was serving others as well. Her contract ended. He ord’ed . Both went to Thailand had a thai marriage and lived happily ever after. (or not )
So yes , if you can tahan what people think of you .. than so be it. Its not a fake story.. their facebook are still on.. but I am protecting their privacy. Really respect them.. for making it through.
SO TS BRO. IF YOU CAN TAHAN.. so be it.. what matters is u happy can liao.

Wah now our officer calibre is marrying WLs. What is happening to our cuntry/

[Gaofar]

Hi bro TS,

At first thought this is gonna be a long story since I saw Part 1, Part 2, and was preparing to camp when you story ends abruptly at Part 5..

Anyway, I see that you have at least been wary of KC ever since you cheong in GL and know the rules to keep mind/head clear.. However, every now and then there will always be that "special" someone who will touched your life so deeply that it makes you stray badly from your usual principles (Been there, done that..)..

Base on your story, I sensed that the girl is a "有情人" meaning a girl with a consciousness, and that you are very lucky if this is so.. This is the type of girl that knows her fate and life is as such, but will not just relent to her fate and idlly spend her time just working but will also sees if she can find her "other half" here while she is here. She is the type who will be truthful and will bare all herself to show her honesty, and adopt the attitude of "if can be together then good, if cannot be together at least we have known each other" mentality, thus as I mention: a girl with a conscious..

I didn't really have to describe what a "无情人" aka a girl without a conscious stands for.. Pretty much KC skills are learnt to block these type of women..

As what other bros here have stated, are you married or single? If married, then obviously keep your mentality state of mind in check. You can still play and have fun but must be wary of your actions not being overboard. If single.. Well.. Think one bro gave a short story of how true love can be blossomed.. In the end, it's really about you how far do you want to go into this relationship.. One thing's for sure: you being here to ask for advice is the beginning of the start of a very difficult decision that you have to face right now. Any move you make will adversely affects you in the future definitely, be it regret or joy or bitterness..

Cheers and regards.

[leekwantew]

First off I want to say that before I wrote the OP I already read the entire KC Thread (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=116417), from start to finish, in 2 sittings.

A bit of confusion over her "friend". So far he only function as transalator/pass message for me and her, and after part 4 is I ownself get his number. Since obviously my attempt at coordinate with her fail miseerably, maybe with his help will be better.

lastly I want to repeat that all ctc so far is started by me, she or her friend never give me unsolicited calls/sms.

@Summerhillt
Wah bro I only fuck her 4 times and express interest in RTFing and already u believe I going to ask her to apply for flat with me. A bit fast leh :P

anyway with regard to your friend. Did he sign on or was he just a NS officer?
whatever it is, I believe in them :). If she's a lady off the night and can wake up early to go to his commissioning parade, that's serious business already

@Nonteerak2553
Trying to learn a bit, so far hard to communicate because all the transalator I use don't work so far she no understanding.

@Gaofar
So far I think my problem stems from the following:

I'm single, 27 this year (no GF.....ever :()
She's early 20s, friendly with good attitude

The thing that made her special was that to me she was not those kind of black+money face FL who take your money then fuck it. Moreso she has no reason to care about quality service since my first time with her was those ST $28 type fuck.

We got good chemistry since Part 1
Not sure if she's playing smart or 有情人, because she so far never try to leech me. And my alarm never go off.


My dream scenerio with her is she get a honest job in Sillypore then can be my FB/ Part time GF.

So far havent cheong at all since Part 4, no mood and need to recover some Vitamin M. Never know what will happen in Part 5 if there is one.

[Boost]

TS, like another bro pointed out. This seems more like self KC than she trying to KC you.
Telling you she is your GF and all that during the session is normal, think of it like Disneyland. When you are there, Mickey Mouse IS Mickey Mouse. When you leave it is a man in a suit. She does it because its part of the job to provide GFE.
You didnt seem to mention her texting you and chit chat outside of the room, so unless I missed all that it is just your imagination at work.

BUT to answer your question, you are in trouble actually. Because self KC is the hardest to get out of, imagine if she really try to KC you? You will be KO-ed my friend.

[banana]

Enjoy the good feeling you have for her while it last. When you start bonking other more pussies, you will forget about her and start another cycle with another pussy.

[sheelayueng]

Hello!

Im new here, and had finished reading your first post. I felt that the heightened chemistry you have experienced brought out your personal instinct. You are attracted to her.

I am not sure what will it entails, but I would suggest you to be mindful of what could happen.

[kanChioBu]

Bro TS

Don't think so much. There shouldn't be any trouble. Don't worry

[Intltuk]

@Gaofar
So far I think my problem stems from the following:

I'm single, 27 this year (no GF.....ever :()U're either despo or naive
She's early 20s, friendly with good attitude

The thing that made her special was that to me she was not those kind of black+money face FL who take your money then fuck it. Moreso she has no reason to care about quality service since my first time with her was those ST $28 type fuck.ur experience with FLs skewed

We got good chemistry since Part 1good FLs provide good service
Not sure if she's playing smart or 有情人, because she so far never try to leech me. And my alarm never go off.


My dream scenerio with her is she get a honest job in Sillypore then can be my FB/ Part time GF.

So far havent cheong at all since Part 4, no mood and need to recover some Vitamin M. Never know what will happen in Part 5 if there is one.
TS, if u visit a restaurant and get good service from the wait staff or visit stay at a hotel where the service was great...would u think of dream of permanent relationship with the staff??
U've been serviced by FLs with no/little service, thus, ur expectations are low...and when meet one tat gives good service..u fall head over heels over her. I'm sure veteran bros here can point u to FLs who gave good service as part of standard package and the bros goes back just for tat...good service. Most FLs and clients understand their relationship are just tat.
Anyway, it's ur life...do wat u think is right.....just don't come back here ranting u've been cheated.....remember, it takes two hands to clap...it's takes two to tango :D. Right now, u're dancing alone.

[amostio]

Part 3

At this point in time, I'm still interested in bonking her, been trying to KC her so maybe can get cheaper fucks or maybe a bit of pak tor, but as seen in part 4, no luck so far.



So TS, let me get this straight. You want to KC her for cheap fucks but refuse to give tips and think it'll work?

Now you think you kanna KCed?

It's all in the head bro.

[leekwantew]

So TS, let me get this straight. You want to KC her for cheap fucks but refuse to give tips and think it'll work?

Now you think you kanna KCed?

It's all in the head bro.

actually cheaper fucks is attainable

All I need to do is to get her trust enough for her to think it's worthwhile to come meet me and don't let OKT know and risk getting into trouble with him. Then since OKT got no cut I can overall pay less money and maybe no need to be so clock watching. So far from what I know she got no off day, so the only time she can sneak out is when they have lockdown

As for tips, i think she's trying her luck. She knows I like her and she don't dare to push her luck because she know if she piss me off I gone already :)

[Summerhillt]

Threadstarter bro,

You go to a restaurant and eat , you find the food fucking delicious never before eaten such a delicacy in your life. You give a big fat tip on your way out. Thank the waiter.
You don't go into the kitchen and try to hook up the chef right trying to fall in love with the chef hoping you get more free nice food right.

P.S. He is a NSF

[Ahxi]

My dream scenerio with her is she get a honest job in Sillypore then can be my FB/ Part time GF.

That is so selfish...

Does that means she doesn't deserve a proper life with real love?

She exist only to provide sex?

If you really really like her and can deal with the stigma, she can become your life partner.

Else as other brothers said, f and move on.
Don't lead her on or don't get conned.

By the sound of the above statement, I don't think you see women as human beings but more as just sex objects. Pardon me if I'm wrong.

[IAmAwesome]

yes u are in trouble but its ok cos u went looking for it . :p

Hahaha, :D

[TheTerminator]

Don't lead her on or don't get conned.


Agreed a 100%

[leekwantew]

Threadstarter bro,
You go to a restaurant and eat , you find the food fucking delicious never before eaten such a delicacy in your life. You give a big fat tip on your way out. Thank the waiter.
You don't go into the kitchen and try to hook up the chef right trying to fall in love with the chef hoping you get more free nice food right.


you analogy is wrong

The proper analogy is: You find a new chicken rice stall open near your house, food is the best you've ever tasted. Soon you become regular customer till the uncle recognize you. Eventually you get perks like no need queue, he remember your order without you saying (白鸡腿，加饭, 不要皮) and he make chit chat with you when no customer around, simple things like "how are you, you working/studying etc). You and the seller already have some KC going on

Anyway update is nothing happen so far; her friend say she cannot get visa. Future uncertain. Dunno whether to be happy or sad :/

[otamay]

Anyway update is nothing happen so far; her friend say she cannot get visa. Future uncertain. Dunno whether to be happy or sad :/

Be happy, closed case and move on. :D

[MichaelWinn]

Be happy, closed case and move on. :D

yes , can finally find a new girl and fuck a new pussy
''winds of change''
new girl , another new beginning;):D

[otamay]

yes , can finally find a new girl and fuck a new pussy
''winds of change''
new girl , another new beginning;):D

Right strategy. :) fresh beginning again so nice. :D

[MissTan]

Bro
No trouble. No need to worry.

[leekwantew]

yes , can finally find a new girl and fuck a new pussy
''winds of change''
new girl , another new beginning;):D

looks like my chicken rice seller went back to hometown, never to return to Singapore.

Will I ever find chicken rice as tasty as this?

Will I ever stop comparing all the chicken rice I eat to this?

How many lousy chicken rice do I have to endure till I can find one that is even 75% as tasty as that one.

:(

On the bright side, I haven't had the mood (http://yourbrainonporn.com/porn-recovery-and-mysterious-flatline) to eat chicken rice for weeks, now I have all this money idk what to do with :D

ps I really had this problem with REAL chicken rice. Uncle retired when the rent went up, last time used to eat his one 3x a week at minimum, now at most I eat once a week and don't enjoy it at all. The only one I consider to be a 'worthy successor' is 1 hour away from my house and only 75% as good. That was almost 10 years ago