RAW and surivive ?

[starwind]

just curious, did any brothers here did it raw with WL / FL and nvr kena any thing ?

thebody.com says that even we whack raw with a infected pers the chances are also 0.1.-0.3 per episode .. this is true or what ?

[bongster]

U wanna take the risk bo?? One samster, went to batam, run out of condom but since booked e gal for e whole nite tot dun fuck waste money, in e end fuck RAW, end of the day kanna HIV, this is a true story, wanna believe or not up to u.

[STK01]

One samster, went to batam, run out of condom but since booked e gal for e whole nite tot dun fuck waste money, in e end fuck RAW, end of the day kanna HIV, this is a true story, .

This can be a classic example for the importance of using CDs.. :)

[idunnoe]

Bro, y take the risk?

Prevention is always better than Cure, Furthermore, there is no cure yet.

Be safe than Sorry. haha

[iwata]

My bro.
U r Playing with fire. U nv know if they have any diseases.

[daneman]

This ratio and precentage thing is very dangerous. This ratio and percentage does not take into account the presence of sores, wounds and other factors. Anyway, playing this game is like playing russian roulette. How do you know that the first chamber in your gun is not loaded. Do not take chances. Like what other bros say RAW is WAR. Cap on for all times!

[like2bonk]

just curious, did any brothers here did it raw with WL / FL and nvr kena any thing ?

thebody.com says that even we whack raw with a infected pers the chances are also 0.1.-0.3 per episode .. this is true or what ?

Do u mean by 0.1 to 0.3 as in 10 to 30% chance of infection? Then that is very high. Statistically need to fuck raw 3 times. But if you are saying it is only 0.1 to 0.3%, which I think it is, then the chance is very low. But one must be very careful when using statistics like this. Some STDs are quite contagious whilst others are not so. It is BEST to be SAFE.

[like2bonk]

Do u mean by 0.1 to 0.3 as in 10 to 30% chance of infection? Then that is very high. Statistically need to fuck raw 3 times. But if you are saying it is only 0.1 to 0.3%, which I think it is, then the chance is very low. But one must be very careful when using statistics like this. Some STDs are quite contagious whilst others are not so. It is BEST to be SAFE.

I found out that the statistics referred to above pertains to HIV infection. I think we are too concern with HIV when other forms of STDs are ignored. I've posted an article from body.com in another thread that uncircumcised males are 9 times more likely to get infected with HIV. Again, it is BEST to be SAFE.

[iloveoversea]

I found out that the statistics referred to above pertains to HIV infection. I think we are too concern with HIV when other forms of STDs are ignored. I've posted an article from body.com in another thread that uncircumcised males are 9 times more likely to get infected with HIV. Again, it is BEST to be SAFE.

uncircumcised males are more risky? i tot circumcised and head protrudting have more area exposed?

[MugenEG9]

U wanna take the risk bo?? One samster, went to batam, run out of condom but since booked e gal for e whole nite tot dun fuck waste money, in e end fuck RAW, end of the day kanna HIV, this is a true story, wanna believe or not up to u.

Agreed, paper statistics is one thing, reality is another. As bro bongster & others have said...be responsible & cap up! "dont be silly, get that cap on ur willy!" :))

[BigBoy123]

from what i know anal sex and raw fucking is the most risky of getting HIV
follow by bbbj , licking pussy ,hj and lastly frenching .. Correct?

[daneman]

...hj and lastly frenching .. Correct?

I do not know. In my opinion, i think frenching is more dangerous than HJ. Thr reason is that for frenching, you are exposed to the saliva, and possible blood from any sores, ulcers. And if you have open wounds in your mouth, there is a risk. But for HJ, you are only at risk, if there are cuts or open wounds on the gal's hands. And looking at the amount of people infected in the US, from what i know, there has been so far 1 incident of HIV contraction from french kissing but nil from HJ, does that mean HJ is safer than frenching? In addition, the HIV virus cannot survive well outside the body, and therefore blood on the surface of the hand, may be denatured by air. Just my 1.5 cents worth. Hope to hear from other bros.

[daneman]

Bros,
A cool risk assessment chart to check out:
http://www.babeland.com/sexinfo/features/risk-assessment-table

[lightweaver]

aiyah, whether the risk is 0.0001% to 10%, it doesnt mean anything if u kena after RAW rite?

Dun care if gahmen say more jobs is created if i cant find job. Stupid statistics

[BigBoy123]

for those pple who got gum dieases that means they cannot french kiss?

[daneman]

for those pple who got gum dieases that means they cannot french kiss?
Advisable not to. If both parties have gum diseases, it presents a avenue for the virus to enter the body. In addition, let's say you swallow the 'blood' of the infected individual and it travels along the throat and stomach. Along these places, there are bound to be cracks and tears. As DSC puts it, whether a person gets infected depends on:
1) How infectious is the HIV+ individual. Those whom are in the ARS and AIDS stage are the most infectious
2) The amount of bodily fluid exchanged
3) Amount of times of the act.

[rabitsu]

Tried before for a while with G150 girls, don't specify who...more than one.
However... nowaday decided that I want to live longer so stop doing so

[like2bonk]

uncircumcised males are more risky? i tot circumcised and head protrudting have more area exposed?


I'm not a scientist, doctor or statistician but this is something I found from body.com and wish to share ...


Circumcised Men Have Lower Rate of HIV Infection Than Uncircumcised Men, Studies Say

November 16, 2004

Circumcised men have a significantly lower rate of HIV infection than uncircumcised men, according to recent studies conducted in Africa and India that have "given new impetus" to some HIV/AIDS experts who consider the procedure a possible prevention method, the Boston Globe reports (Donnelly, Boston Globe, 11/16). The association between circumcision and a decreased risk of contracting HIV previously has been suggested, as many scientists say that circumcision can provide protection from HIV for heterosexual men because the inner surface of the foreskin -- which is removed during circumcision -- has a large concentration of a type of white blood cell that HIV might use to enter the body (Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS Report, 9/7). New data from USAID also suggests that the inner surface of the foreskin absorbs HIV nine times as effectively as cervical tissue.

[wolverman]

Tried before for a while with G150 girls, don't specify who...more than one.
However... nowaday decided that I want to live longer so stop doing so

Yes bro. Not worth throwing your life just for a few minutes enjoyment. RAW IS WAR! :(

[wolverman]

uncircumcised males are more risky? i tot circumcised and head protrudting have more area exposed?

Uncircumcised dick are more risk cos of the skin. The latter could collect some residue e.g. the girls discharge. So one must wash thoroughly. Whereas for a circumcised dick, its easier. Theres no skin and for residue to remain on the dick is minimised. Just my opinion hoh. :)

[wolverman]

No AIDS doesn't means no STDs

Agree bro. Present vd like HERPES or STDs may be mutable in future. Just hope present Herpes remain as Herpes or Std. Hope there would be a cure for the former.

[starwind]

Tried before for a while with G150 girls, don't specify who...more than one.
However... nowaday decided that I want to live longer so stop doing so

u are daring ...

[rabitsu]

u are daring ...

Not advisable to do so. Before I'm just stupid and get off lucky.....

[PASSIONAETE04]

I do not know. In my opinion, i think frenching is more dangerous than HJ. Thr reason is that for frenching, you are exposed to the saliva, and possible blood from any sores, ulcers. And if you have open wounds in your mouth, there is a risk. But for HJ, you are only at risk, if there are cuts or open wounds on the gal's hands. And looking at the amount of people infected in the US, from what i know, there has been so far 1 incident of HIV contraction from french kissing but nil from HJ, does that mean HJ is safer than frenching? In addition, the HIV virus cannot survive well outside the body, and therefore blood on the surface of the hand, may be denatured by air. Just my 1.5 cents worth. Hope to hear from other bros.



FULLY AGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSING, ASK YOURSELF, very often you yourself tends to get fish bone or crab shell cuts inside your mouth while enjoying these food, so it applies to those FL or WL as well.see what I mean !

[BigBoy123]

What if at that time i got abit of gum bleeding and i french kiss or lick her pussy? and she got no HIV ? will it i kena HIV?

[starwind]

What if at that time i got abit of gum bleeding and i french kiss or lick her pussy? and she got no HIV ? will it i kena HIV?

if she got no HIV even u drink her blood also wont have. :D

[teraterm55]

i count 9 times.

problem is after each time i would call myself stoopid, wait 3 months no sex, go for checkup and then feel better. so thats 30 mins of joy and 3 months of pain.. and i STILL REPEAT.

If you do RAW, dont go on infecting others, either stick to the partner or abstain for at least 3 months. some STD or AIDS take about 3-6 months to incubate and then they would infect others. Wait for the test results before you go cheong. and when you are doing it RAW make sure you have no injury or cuts in your body. plus make sure the gal takes a shower and is clean. if you smell something fishy or horrible smell from the pussy dont do it RAW.

also if you plan to do it RAW, make sure your health is OK and you are not sick.

just my 2 cents...

[Sorin^^]

Yah Bro, i think there is a cycle that keeps on going n going. Go to Gl once, then wait for 3 months for AFA, and then go GL again n then go AFA after 3 month. Hope there is a stop to this cycle.(in my case)

Yah, raw is a no no. So do bbbj. So b4 the WL wana pop my didi into her mouth, i will ask her to put the raincoat for my didi. Or even b4 shower, tell her and then ask her not to ar my pipi also.

Best Rgds

[makop]

Bro, believe me raw is totally stupid since you are risking your life and because of this, now i need to wait for 3 months to go for test since after my session with one of the HC gals, the cap break which i only realise after the session and this totaly freak me out and believe me, with and without the cap that's not much different in the so call more shiok like some of those who likes to go raw in the forum since i dun even realise it. But again, that cap is gonna cover your ass. :( now i basically like waiting for death sentence like that... haizzz

I think after the test i probably gonna stop all this already, too risky and hope it's not too late.

[dt3305]

Let me relate my own incident many years back. I was like 22 then. Always go to a GL house and get one of Thai gal. She is so fair and pretty. She was gal no.8 and the most ang pai there. Countless customers queing for her. One time I book her overnight. We had 1 session at midnight after I check in and another 1 shortly after. In the morning, when I got up, we started again and this time, she just put it in without any cap. I got carried away and shot my load into her...didn't cross my mind then I would get anything...

now I think of it, I still can't believe I did such a stupid thing...luckily I did not get anything at all from her...I also bonked a few gals from short term relationship raw without thinking of the consequences...last time gals never ask to put condom or do we bother...knowledge of STD was almost zero...although you see all the GL house screaming with poster of put on condom...I guess when you are young, you just throw caution to the wind...

I count myself a very lucky bastard...now that I am older, become wiser and also no balls..for commerical sex, only BJ with cap...and no ONS, even though there are ample opportunity...simply can't trust those chicks from disco...

[makisa]

nabeh, next time go cheong not only have to prepare condom, must also bring along the latex glove to HC/TN centre if only request for HJ. Jialat, sibei mahuan one leh.

[teraterm55]

Bro, believe me raw is totally stupid ...
I think after the test i probably gonna stop all this already, too risky and hope it's not too late.

hmm.. i said the same after each test.. then after a while.. cannot stand it.. but nowadays i do with cap.. but then the temptation of doing Raw is there.. think i better get a wife or GF... then can do raw all i like hahahha
and safe money dont go commercial sex

[Sorin^^]

hmm.. i said the same after each test.. then after a while.. cannot stand it.. but nowadays i do with cap.. but then the temptation of doing Raw is there.. think i better get a wife or GF... then can do raw all i like hahahha
and safe money dont go commercial sex

Yah man, after each AFA Test,i tot dun wana go GL any more, but after a short while, got the urge to go down to GL liaoz.. But no raw manz...too hazardous liao.

Rgds

[redlord]

Yah man, after each AFA Test,i tot dun wana go GL any more, but after a short while, got the urge to go down to GL liaoz.. But no raw manz...too hazardous liao.

Rgds



ayoi ,simple lah ,go only WL ,dont go visit FR,dont do raw but bbbj ....sure no problem ....trust me :D

[Sorin^^]

ayoi ,simple lah ,go only WL ,dont go visit FR,dont do raw but bbbj ....sure no problem ....trust me :D

Yah man Bro,

Last time used to patronise HC...Now go for legal WLs...their going for check-ups is a plus point.. bbbj got risk oso, so i now ask the WL to cap me b4 bj, safe for her n me though she may feel awkard. :)

[George28_1976]

firstly i would like to relate this true incident that happen to all bros out here, a friend of mine just died from AIDS and the scenario on his deathbed was devastating, it keeps on repeating in my head and to think he got it for eleven years already.......
Please do think of your wife or gf whenever you are thinking of raw, its not worth it to put them at risk too... Spare a thought for them, since you became an item with her, you love her so won't you want the best for her, to stay in the pink of health?
I decided to quit the scene as i do not wish to see people who are dearest to me heartbroken...to date, i had 10 raw partners who are my exs, with one a virgin so that leaves 9 that leaves me thinking if they are clean....Am i safe? i do not have the courage to go for test and what if i am not? how can i face the road ahead? i guess only time will tell.............
God Bless those who still venture in this 'heaven' and guide those who are repentent after they read this.
I hope this experience can pull some bros here back on the right track.
I end my case...

[dt3305]

That's why we say, want to cheong, cheong safely...nowadays I only restrict myself to protected BJ and no frenching and licking of pussy...actually i prefer to admire the gals body, especially those wearing g-string on, than actually doing the act...

[DipItLow]

well,its all about willpower versus lust.
im so kiasu that i always bring a condom in my wallet.
surely,cannot forget one. :p

[dt3305]

Bro, be careful, condom kept inside wallet can last only 2 weeks, after that quality weaken liao...I kept once for almost 3 weeks, take out and feel the exterior dry dry...like the lubricant inside all dry up liao...also don't keep in car...the heat will damage the condom...

[HOWITZER 155MM]

It is true. Please store your CD properly. Constant exposure to heat will reduce the consistency of CD. Please visit the thread on CDs. Keeping CD in wallet is convenient, but check whether the packet is in good condition due to constant stretching of one's butt. :cool:

[starwind]

Bro, believe me raw is totally stupid since you are risking your life and because of this, now i need to wait for 3 months to go for test since after my session with one of the HC gals, the cap break which i only realise after the session and this totaly freak me out and believe me, with and without the cap that's not much different in the so call more shiok like some of those who likes to go raw in the forum since i dun even realise it. But again, that cap is gonna cover your ass. :( now i basically like waiting for death sentence like that... haizzz

I think after the test i probably gonna stop all this already, too risky and hope it's not too late.

1 mth is enough for the window but 3-6 mths is the best

[makisa]

Attention to Brother WhoZappedMe:

Dun try to act innocent and tell me that I can't say any vulgar words here. Nabeh is just a passing casual remarks, and I am not aiming it at any samster here.

You are not innocent at all, you are naive