Liking a girl whose working in pub?

[Advanced]

Hi brothers and sisters here,

This first time sharing a problem of mine, so pardon my english :p
I do not have much experience onto chasing girls, failed afew attempts within my 25years. And still no girlfriend before. (Maybe due to my looks? or i'm too woodblock that i don't know how to communicate with girls)

How i know her:
A friend of mine works at the pub(full time) and asked me to go down and support him. I met this girl like 3-4 months ago working in the pub as bartender/cashier.

Fast forward the story a little, my friends and his GF knows that i like the girl (She knew as well).
I took up the courage and asked for her number, and we only chat through messages/text.

Once i had a oversea trip with family, and brought her a necklace from my holiday.
She accepted the gift and wears it saying she likes it. In the next few attempt in going down the pub, i noticed that she still wears it.


Recently:
But recently weeks, after i told her that i liked her, she started to distance away. ( maybe its due to afraid of me getting the wrong idea so avoiding is the best option? )
Seems like not wanting me to go down find her when shes alone working, when my friend is off. ( told my friend not to tell me that his not working etc.)

It seems now that only when we are drinking, then we are possible to be friends or even close friends that shares even secrets.

Any advice on this kind of 1 side situation? lol :(

[jnudes]

She's avoiding you that means you should find a new girl. Do not waste time on her again. When you have heartache its going to take long time to recover. Quit now before it's too late.

I am inexperienced and not good looking as you too. I am in my mid thirties and I also failed to court gal before so I understand your feeling.

For me being single currently give me 100% freedom. There is nothing more I could ask for. For me if I want chase a gal I always 'go with the flow'.

[HappyOwl]

Hi brothers and sisters here,

This first time sharing a problem of mine, so pardon my english :p
I do not have much experience onto chasing girls, failed afew attempts within my 25years. And still no girlfriend before. (Maybe due to my looks? or i'm too woodblock that i don't know how to communicate with girls)



Bro. Advanced, since you already failed a few attempts when you advanced to win a girl's heart, why don't you continue to fail again & again & again & again & again & again & again with different girls until you found the right girl who feels you too and not just one-sided?

The answers to your uncertainties may unfold towards the path of enlightenment. :)

[SammyNewbie]

You should write a story about this and at least get some points from it. ;)

Oh well.

The only reason why she's talking to you when you're drinking is because it's a bartenders job for the money.

I'm sorry I had to be this brutal. As for the necklace, it was probably a nice accessory and all so she wore it.

If you write a story on it, I will up you my two points as an apology. How does that sound?

[Advanced]

@ Bro HappyOwl, Heart pain ah.. fail and fail :(

@Bro SammyNewbie , you might be true, its her job as bartender. but well i was thinking this way all along instead .. ( Since there's waitress, there is no need for her to leave the counter and drink with me. )

And while drinking, she would share her personal (secrets ) with me. But likewise, when we're not drinking, it seems like total stranger.

which like i said, it seems only when we are drinking; only then we are friends? :(

[sammyboyfor]

Any advice on this kind of 1 side situation? lol :(

Forget about girls for the moment. At your age you should concentrate on your career and your finances.

Once you have lots of $$$$$$, the girls will be falling head of heals in love with you on a regular basis.

[sexynoob]

Have some confidence when u talk seems like downer. Confidence is the way to go ask her out walk walk. See how you click be funny and confident you will het there

[Mr_don_juan]

Did you manage to get the first date with her after getting her number ?

Some conversations are best to be spoken during outings/dates, text messages are only used to fix a particular venue, date and time with her. You need to call her, i seldom reply to smses and there is no obligation for you to do so. Keep it light hearted and don't ask her out through through a faceless, emotionless medium like smses, wechat, fb. Call her and ask her out.

Go somewhere together, go sentosa, ice-skating, cycling do some activities that both of you can have fun with. No movies, no romantic dinner but something that can build up some form of thrill and excitment. The key is fun, casual, light-hearted that you can enjoy.

No gifts too, i don't understand why is it necessary to get her a necklace, even though you think it may impress her. Only birthday are an exception. She should be wanting to know more about you via dates and not over long talk in text messages. Fascincate her and let her know more bit by bit. So is very important that you keep yourself busy while arranging dates with her. :D

[lagonda]

Bro they could be playing you to visit the pub and spend.these scenarios are almost the same throughout a young man's early experiences.Friends involved in the night life will draw you in to patronize their pubs,bars etc.at least you did one thing right which is to share with the forum and seek counsel.you are still young bro,don't be disappointed.as for your effort,she will know where to find you if she is interested.you can easily gauge her level of interest if she is willing to meet outside the bar.whatever the outcome never forget the lessons learned from each experiences

[lagonda]

Bro epic schoolboy error.go back to the drawing board.but not to worry we have all been there.man up and look ahead.

[Tai_zi21]

Being mr nice guy dun really work out on younger gals i think!

Why not just give her the i dun care attitude? And she will be thinking are u still intetested in her？ why not make her think instead of u thinking?

[Advanced]

@ sammyboyfor - $ can't earn finish de leh.. Lol somemore keep earning money but don't have love one around.. sibei lonely =x

@ Mr_don_juan - Hmm, after hearing what you say, i notice i never actually met her out alone before ..:eek: its usually like double date where my friend and his girl would tag along for dinner / supper.

I understand that conversations are more important then text but that's usually my weak point too. My mind starts to turn blank and got no idea what to talk about. (or i might start to think too much of the re-actions to even dare to ask/talk about it.)

p.s you like very lao jiao liao in this :D:p

@ Tai_zi21 - Well that is what my friend also tell me, ask me ignore her for few days.. then try say drop by the place and bring her some snacks etc etc..

[lagonda]

Important question bro...what type of necklace did you get her? Diamond,gold or chanel?

[Tai_zi21]

@ Tai_zi21 - Well that is what my friend also tell me, ask me ignore her for few days.. then try say drop by the place and bring her some snacks etc etc..

All in my pov only

Bring her some snack after a few days? Isn't tat going back to square one and mr nice guy again! But well as long as u r happy cheers

[lagonda]

Aiyah bro i can't help but respond to your recent post immediately.you sound like you are shy around women.is it just women in general or just this particular girl that you have a crush on?i think you need to address that issue first.whatever you intend to do,from now on ensure that it is done outside the bar.and if you are not ready,stay away until you man up.and bro pls do not buy snacks and visit her as you have already sent a strong enough message that you feel very passionate about her.

[lagonda]

@ sammyboyfor - $ can't earn finish de leh.. Lol somemore keep earning money but don't have love one around.. sibei lonely =x

@ Mr_don_juan - Hmm, after hearing what you say, i notice i never actually met her out alone before ..:eek: its usually like double date where my friend and his girl would tag along for dinner / supper.

I understand that conversations are more important then text but that's usually my weak point too. My mind starts to turn blank and got no idea what to talk about. (or i might start to think too much of the re-actions to even dare to ask/talk about it.)

p.s you like very lao jiao liao in this :D:p

@ Tai_zi21 - Well that is what my friend also tell me, ask me ignore her for few days.. then try say drop by the place and bring her some snacks etc etc..

Bro don't mind me asking,how old are you and what is your job?does your job require you to meet people on a regular basis? Can't finish spending your money..then perhaps you might want to consider buying a ferrari to see how things change :p

[sammyboyfor]

@ sammyboyfor - $ can't earn finish de leh.. Lol somemore keep earning money but don't have love one around.. sibei lonely =x.

Why do you need a loved one around? All they'll do is restrict your lifestyle and make you miserable.

You should treasure your independence.

[lagonda]

Why do you need a loved one around? All they'll do is restrict your lifestyle and make you miserable.

You should treasure your independence.


To procreate and sustain humanity :o

[Advanced]

@ lagonda - I'm mostly shy towards girls, not just this particular girl.
I never say can't spend finish money lol!.. is can't earn finish :(

@ Sammyboyfor - independence for the past 25 years liao ma.. see my fellow friends either getting married or in r/s.. don't know why suddenly feel sian also left me alone :p:p
Jio them out, either they bring gf or say cannot

[lagonda]

@ lagonda - I'm mostly shy towards girls, not just this particular girl.
I never say can't spend finish money lol!.. is can't earn finish :(

@ Sammyboyfor - independence for the past 25 years liao ma.. see my fellow friends either getting married or in r/s.. don't know why suddenly feel sian also left me alone :p:p
Jio them out, either they bring gf or say cannot

Bro 25 yrs only,still young don't worry.don't compare with friends as there are others who are much older and still not married.have you been in a r/s before?

[jnudes]

@ lagonda - I'm mostly shy towards girls, not just this particular girl.
I never say can't spend finish money lol!.. is can't earn finish :(

@ Sammyboyfor - independence for the past 25 years liao ma.. see my fellow friends either getting married or in r/s.. don't know why suddenly feel sian also left me alone :p:p
Jio them out, either they bring gf or say cannot

I used to be shy @ 25 years old. Now in my mid thirties still feel shy a bit but I can see myself improving and becoming more mature. It all started with one's early experience and making mistakes in the beginning. I mean who doesn't?

After that ensure do not repeat same mistake, you will be more mature and most girls will like mature man.

Don't worry bro, you got plenty of time to overcome your shyness. It all takes some practice, communication, level of confidence when approaching girls and you'll be there one day.

You are only 25 years old now. I'd been what you gone thru. Got abandoned by married friends. Wait till they have family, they gonna abandon you completely.

Even best friends do that to me. I normally don't jio my married friends as I am sick of their rejection. So I normally go out eat alone and come back alone. At my age better learn to live independently and be strong.

For your extra info I've been staying in bed for nearly 20 days since April 1st. Age is catching up with me and I just recovered from heavy flu. Did not do any exercise during that time and need to keep fit once again.

[Advanced]

@ lagonda - No i have never been in r/s before :D

@ jnudes - Yep, even non-married friends don't come out any longer, abit like no life now days other then work > home > work > home..
alots of "girl" friends also advice i'm lack of communication and confidence, saying i'm easy going, but boring.:eek:

[lagonda]

@ lagonda - No i have never been in r/s before :D

@ jnudes - Yep, even non-married friends don't come out any longer, abit like no life now days other then work > home > work > home..
alots of "girl" friends also advice i'm lack of communication and confidence, saying i'm easy going, but boring.:eek:

Never been in r/s...then all the best in your journey.i sincerely hope for your sake that you meet the "right one" in your first encounter and save yourself many nights of mental torture.

[Advanced]

Never been in r/s...then all the best in your journey.i sincerely hope for your sake that you meet the "right one" in your first encounter and save yourself many nights of mental torture.

really is mental torture sia.. want give up, but cling on like that.. :p:p

[lagonda]

Then why cling on and prolong the torture?

[lagonda]

Shout, shout, let it all out These are the things I can do without Come on, I'm talking to you, come on :D

[Advanced]

Then why cling on and prolong the torture?

Shout, shout, let it all out These are the things I can do without Come on, I'm talking to you, come on :D

Ownself soft heart-ed ma, today say want give up.. don't want think anymore le.. after awhile suddenly go text her again :p:D

[Johnbass]

8 yrs in sbf... no gf... no sian charbor... something is wrong here.
Don't have miracle solution for you... but you need to do something different from what you're doing now.
Good luck!
:cool:

[Advanced]

8 yrs in sbf... no gf... no sian charbor... something is wrong here.
Don't have miracle solution for you... but you need to do something different from what you're doing now.
Good luck!
:cool:

Bro Johnbass, what it gotta do with 8years in SBF? lol, last time i hardly on SBF de leh.. only till recent of my problem , and know bros/sis here could advice me a little thats why i post and ask.

I got sian charbor la.. where don't have, just that the attempt of fail throughout the years is still 100% :D

Either i kana friendzone or kana sis/bro-zoned.:(:(

[lagonda]

Bro Johnbass, what it gotta do with 8years in SBF? lol, last time i hardly on SBF de leh.. only till recent of my problem , and know bros/sis here could advice me a little thats why i post and ask.

I got sian charbor la.. where don't have, just that the attempt of fail throughout the years is still 100% :D

Either i kana friendzone or kana sis/bro-zoned.:(:(

Bro maybe it is because you are aiming too high.are you constantly going after model calibre?

[Advanced]

@ lagonda - Never even thought of going for model type leh lol.. i know myself better.. most of those girls will just think lai ha ma xiang chi tian e rou:p:p:D

[Tai_zi21]

I got sian charbor la.. where don't have, just that the attempt of fail throughout the years is still 100% :D

Either i kana friendzone or kana sis/bro-zoned.:(:(

Have u ever thought abt why after all this years ur attempt to sian char bor all fail?

[lanus]

Agree Agree...

one time is maybe still ok. but many times means hor problem lies on you brother.

[Mr_don_juan]

@ Mr_don_juan - Hmm, after hearing what you say, i notice i never actually met her out alone before ..:eek: its usually like double date where my friend and his girl would tag along for dinner / supper.

I understand that conversations are more important then text but that's usually my weak point too. My mind starts to turn blank and got no idea what to talk about. (or i might start to think too much of the re-actions to even dare to ask/talk about it.)

p.s you like very lao jiao liao in this :D:p



Talk about feelings as girls like to feel, How was your weekend?, what did you do last night? i like the way you look?" You can try talking to her the same way you talk to your male buddy with ease and comfort. Talk to her about herself. It's actually quite easy, because most of the time, she can't shut up about herself.

Make her feel good about herself and flatter her with charming words. Don't brag about yourself, talk less and listen. If you don't know what to talk, then talk about her and let her talk about herself, the less you talk, the less chance you have of saying something stupid. You give her more chance to express about herself and talk about her day. At the same time you can find more about her while you become more mysterious, so keep the converstation on her.

However then, you need to date her means one on one date, if she brings her friend along, you bring her into your reality, "tag along' make you seem like her servant or puppy dog, so don't do it.

[Johnbass]

Bro Johnbass, what it gotta do with 8years in SBF? lol, last time i hardly on SBF de leh.. only till recent of my problem , and know bros/sis here could advice me a little thats why i post and ask.

I got sian charbor la.. where don't have, just that the attempt of fail throughout the years is still 100% :D

Either i kana friendzone or kana sis/bro-zoned.:(:(

Just kidding.
Your record proved the myth that there's no chiobu to sian in sbf. Lol
Change as in change place to sian lah...
Those chiobus in pubs... Either you very yandao or very rich then can sian one lah.
:D

[tryherout]

Ts, keep visiting her but avoid difficult awkward situation. Praise her that she look great in the necklace. Keep asking her out unless she tells you she is not interested with you.

[Advanced]

@ Tai_zi21 - Got.. actually i even tried asking friends, and even their girlfriends.
kana say: quiet and not interesting a.k.a boring,

@ tryherout - The necklace ar? lol she stop wearing them since recently when she started to distance away. I tried asking her out alone, she either tell me can't wake up as excuse lol.
She did mention to my friend whose working together with her that she just treat me as friend *bang bang bang* :(

@ Johnbass - There's chiobu in SBF la.. hahaha.. is you never look around nia

@ Mr_don_juan - Understood.. hearing what you say really make me realize there is alot of tactics and learning for me to do..

usually even among my "sisters"(friend) i hardly talk unless questions are asked.. since i don't know what to say

Got anymore stuff like i need to do ma? or can teach de ma?:confused:

[StoolPigeon]

Once you have lots of $$$$$$, the girls will be falling head of heals in love with you on a regular basis.

I will keep this piece of advice in mind for a long time to come.

[StoolPigeon]

It seems now that only when we are drinking, then we are possible to be friends or even close friends that shares even secrets.

Any advice on this kind of 1 side situation? lol :(

This sounds pretty much like my own experience when i liked this pub waitress working in boat quay, some 7-8 years ago ;)

[lanus]

@ Tai_zi21 - Got.. actually i even tried asking friends, and even their girlfriends.
kana say: quiet and not interesting a.k.a boring,

@ tryherout - The necklace ar? lol she stop wearing them since recently when she started to distance away. I tried asking her out alone, she either tell me can't wake up as excuse lol.
She did mention to my friend whose working together with her that she just treat me as friend *bang bang bang* :(

@ Johnbass - There's chiobu in SBF la.. hahaha.. is you never look around nia

@ Mr_don_juan - Understood.. hearing what you say really make me realize there is alot of tactics and learning for me to do..

usually even among my "sisters"(friend) i hardly talk unless questions are asked.. since i don't know what to say

Got anymore stuff like i need to do ma? or can teach de ma?:confused:

Dont want to talk is also a tactic but i think your application is wrong.
The best way is to know what sort of girl she is and approach her with the correct methodology.

Different people requires different approach.

Hope this helps.

[Advanced]

@ lanus - Any few examples ma? lol :p

[lagonda]

@ lanus - Any few examples ma? lol :p

Bro what have you done after reviewing all the advice that you have received?
What is the status of you pursuit?

[Advanced]

i haven't done anything.. lol didn't message her since sunday night, was busy with work.

[lucian90]

I will keep this piece of advice in mind for a long time to come.

damn right

timeless advice haha

[Mr_don_juan]

@ Mr_don_juan - Understood.. hearing what you say really make me realize there is alot of tactics and learning for me to do..

usually even among my "sisters"(friend) i hardly talk unless questions are asked.. since i don't know what to say

Got anymore stuff like i need to do ma? or can teach de ma?:confused:

There are some unwritten rules but one of the most important thing to do is not to worry about anything and take things too seriously. Sometimes i hardly talk too but i not insecure about anything in fact i'm comfortable and confident when i stop talking to her while making eye contact listening to her.

But i don't mean you keep quiet and don't make your first move like calling her up and arranging dates. SmSes are get her on the phone or in person. you can't touch her see her so getting her in person is the objective. if you hardly talk, you cannot be shy, there is a difference shy means you are uncomfortable talking to her, quiet means you are comfortable talking to her at certain point of time.

If that the issue of being shy and afraid of getting a rejection, then accept it with good laughter and cheer. Bounce back from whatever and try again with another girl. As you continue to experience, it will desensitize you from having fear of approaching ladies. Everything in life is an experience just learn enjoy and stay carefree and not forgetting to laugh at every setback you may encounter. :D

[kenneth38]

Bro Advanced, in any r/s or even potential r/s, you should try and hold on to the power. i.e. she needs you more than you need her. Otherwise, it's really mental torture. In another perspective, it's all about whether you want to take her down, or you walk away.

Be confident in yourself, @ 25, you have all the capital in the world, youth, energy, time and some money too. Miss Bartender, is no match to your charms, if you so decide to turn it on. Confidence does not equal needy. You don't need her. She needs you. :)

Keep positive thoughts in your head, stop contacting her, but initiate once in a while just to test water. Definitely not every day. Once a week, yes maybe. Busy yourselves with other targets/other pubs. If you find your thoughts returning to her, remind yourself again that you are in control of your thoughts. We cannot control other people, but we certainly can try and control ourselves, and our response. It's key to stay positive, as these internal thoughts will manifest in your decisions, thought processes, behaviors. Over time, the positive thoughts, translate into an aura of presence and confidence, that not only ladies are attracted to, but guys as well. Self-deprecating humor (i.e. laughing it yourself) is a simple beginning to your own self-confidence.

Hanging yourself on a tree, when there's a forest, seems a waste. :) Cultivate the bountiful mentality. Your life is ahead of you, she may not be the right lady anyway. Anyone can share secrets, and some secrets are not even real. It's OK to take it easy, and definitely good not to take it too seriously, at least in this beginning phase.

Word of caution though, when you come out and am prepared to put your heart into a r/s, you knowingly enter a risky area, where your heart may not come out unscathed. Put it another way, if your intention is to chew, and spit out the bones, and you do it, you are protected. But when you pour your heart/soul into the r/s/lady, be prepared to come out battle-scarred, but stronger, and even gaining a new understanding about yourself, how much pain you can endure and survive. When you go up the mountain forest often enough, sooner or later, you will meet your tigress. :) Rise to the occasion, either you ride her, you get mauled, or you are equals and really get married. In all cases, this is LIVING. It's life, with it's unbelievable highs and f*cking unbearable pain.

Yep, I used to have a g/f who worked in a pub, lasted about a year. It was a hell of a ride, and I'm still picking up the pieces. That's how I started reading your thread. Be careful of what you wish for !

Good luck my friend.

[lagonda]

Bro Advanced, in any r/s or even potential r/s, you should try and hold on to the power. i.e. she needs you more than you need her. Otherwise, it's really mental torture. In another perspective, it's all about whether you want to take her down, or you walk away.

Be confident in yourself, @ 25, you have all the capital in the world, youth, energy, time and some money too. Miss Bartender, is no match to your charms, if you so decide to turn it on. Confidence does not equal needy. You don't need her. She needs you. :)

Keep positive thoughts in your head, stop contacting her, but initiate once in a while just to test water. Definitely not every day. Once a week, yes maybe. Busy yourselves with other targets/other pubs. If you find your thoughts returning to her, remind yourself again that you are in control of your thoughts. We cannot control other people, but we certainly can try and control ourselves, and our response. It's key to stay positive, as these internal thoughts will manifest in your decisions, thought processes, behaviors. Over time, the positive thoughts, translate into an aura of presence and confidence, that not only ladies are attracted to, but guys as well. Self-deprecating humor (i.e. laughing it yourself) is a simple beginning to your own self-confidence.

Hanging yourself on a tree, when there's a forest, seems a waste. :) Cultivate the bountiful mentality. Your life is ahead of you, she may not be the right lady anyway. Anyone can share secrets, and some secrets are not even real. It's OK to take it easy, and definitely good not to take it too seriously, at least in this beginning phase.

Word of caution though, when you come out and am prepared to put your heart into a r/s, you knowingly enter a risky area, where your heart may not come out unscathed. Put it another way, if your intention is to chew, and spit out the bones, and you do it, you are protected. But when you pour your heart/soul into the r/s/lady, be prepared to come out battle-scarred, but stronger, and even gaining a new understanding about yourself, how much pain you can endure and survive. When you go up the mountain forest often enough, sooner or later, you will meet your tigress. :) Rise to the occasion, either you ride her, you get mauled, or you are equals and really get married. In all cases, this is LIVING. It's life, with it's unbelievable highs and f*cking unbearable pain.

Yep, I used to have a g/f who worked in a pub, lasted about a year. It was a hell of a ride, and I'm still picking up the pieces. That's how I started reading your thread. Be careful of what you wish for !

Good luck my friend.

There you have it bro,words from the grand master himself.i suppose the key is not to give in too much.

[Advanced]

@ Mr_don_juan & kenneth38 - Well noted, i will try and understand.. also maybe my Shy and don't know how communicate with girls might be due to me being all boys school last time eh? so never really mix around until older.. and also No confidence cause my looks and i fat =(

i haven't been talking/texting to her loh.. work everyday killing me liao, on the other end, she herself also didn't text or call =/

[greatdane88]

@ Mr_don_juan & kenneth38 - Well noted, i will try and understand.. also maybe my Shy and don't know how communicate with girls might be due to me being all boys school last time eh? so never really mix around until older.. and also No confidence cause my looks and i fat =(

i haven't been talking/texting to her loh.. work everyday killing me liao, on the other end, she herself also didn't text or call =/

no need to bother. fat or not fat is nothing. I have friends who are from a single sex school but all damn good with girls.

You should just let it go.

[milfmilf]

Forget about girls for the moment. At your age you should concentrate on your career and your finances.

Once you have lots of $$$$$$, the girls will be falling head of heals in love with you on a regular basis.

lots of $$$ is like what kind of salary or savings/assets?

[Advanced]

Didn't msg her for sometime, and outta sudden she text me back telling me she moved hse etc.. But while texting, she suddenly changed topic and asked me if i know of this "health product" and then asked if i wanna "support" and buy some :(:(

[Jamesleejamesle]

Bro Advanced,
Aiyah, if I were interested in u, I will be very paiseh to ask u to support what I am selling on a part time basis. I will wait for YOU to say that u want to support me.
However, if I treat u like any of the customers in the pub, I will ask you to support me. I believe she's treating u like other customers.
If u are a nice guy, support her lah. But seriously, bro, there's many fishes in the sea. There will be many more girls in future for u.
As for being fat, I have seen many good looking girls with fat guys. If u are conscious of it, make some effort to choose what u eat n exercise regularly. Your self confidence will shoot up once u lose a few kg.
Being successful in what u do is also an attraction to girls, so do work well with your colleagues n get a couple of promotion.
U will be surprised. Once one girl start being interested in u, suddenly there are many more attracted to u. So, be prepared.
In the meanwhile, good luck, bro.

[milfmilf]

TS likes the girl doesn't mean the girl must also like back
she also has her friends, her priorities and her targets
don't mistaken acceptance of gift as love ...
all along is only a one sided info ... no need to get story from girl??
cannot? so must give benefit of doubts lah
I always like to give all the respect ... and after showing my interest, should up to her to respond .. 勉强没幸福

[Advanced]

haha..i also wanna exercise and always tell myself too =x, but when wanna start the lazy come liao kns.. :p some more alone run hor.. like paiseh sia.. ppl look :D

then now ankle there fracture plus bone crack, sian liao loh.. :(

@Jamesleejamesle - True la.. if really treat as someone you like, won't bother to ask you support. but maybe.. just maybe i'm not that close to her yet ba? lol

[henabi]

Didn't msg her for sometime, and outta sudden she text me back telling me she moved hse etc.. But while texting, she suddenly changed topic and asked me if i know of this "health product" and then asked if i wanna "support" and buy some :(:(

treat her just as normal friend...

as for "health product"... no need to support. probably some MLM companies targeting young and naive youngsters to make fast $$$ out of them.

for guys, its always better to focus on our career first. its rather normal for a guy to marry late into our 30s or 40s.
-spend the next 5 yrs to build your career.
-look after yourself. take care of your looks, your hair, your dressing.
-get into shape. i have past injuries to my wrist, my lower back, my hip and my kneecap too. I even had a motorbike accident a few yrs ago but that didn't stop me from working out.
injury is not an excuse to avoid exercise. There are other ways to work out without causing old injuries to open up again.
if you need motivation. join a gym club. working out with others beats running alone.
-enrich yourself. go for financial courses, dining etiquette courses, wine tasting courses etc. attend networking sessions and widen your circle of friends.

once you are successful, you will start to meet girls from different leagues.

[emogirl]

I was a bartender back at a bar in San Diego and we definitely flirt with our customers so that they keep coming back and they tip us other. We enjoy the attention and company but it's mostly a business relationship. It's better to chat with this girl outside of the bar situation. And see how she really feels.