View Full Version : Do you really trust anyone?
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 02:37 AM
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
hamsapkwai
01-07-2014, 07:12 AM
My Maxim in life " If i tell you , then i will have to kill you" :p
Triple70
01-07-2014, 08:07 AM
Firstly, common beliefs and value system.
Secondly.. mutual trust relationship in place, like "Joint and Several Guarantee". Either one can bring down the other equally.
onlyhuman
01-07-2014, 09:06 AM
Yes of cos!!
I have frds I know will nv take a cent from what I entrusted them with.
Sometimes it's very tiring to keep doubting and guessing.
If the person is not trustworthy, the person is not worthy to be a frd
PPGirl
01-07-2014, 09:14 AM
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Ans : not i give but he give me keys to his wealth. We both know each other atm passwords :D
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
Ans: Yes he is the only 1 i trust. Becos i kenna betrayed by my frds b4.
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
Ans: becos he is my other half. He proved it himself n thus earned d trust from me.
E.g. when he go drinking with his frds, he sure let me know his whereabouts.
BiRd13
01-07-2014, 09:39 AM
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
My best buddy. One of the reason is we both share through up and down together. We hold each other secrets, and till this date. Our friendship is stronger than even my family member.
Up to the extend that I can pass her my atm card (with $ inside of course) and ask her draw cash for me etc.
WhiteRock123
01-07-2014, 09:43 AM
Life would be very sad if you did not trust anyone.
I trust my best bud. We taught eachother everything we know about life.
bigbrudder
01-07-2014, 09:49 AM
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
I thought the natural answer will be your spouse, esp if you have children. Eventually, parents would (in most cases) give to their children.
Accela
01-07-2014, 04:39 PM
My policy would be ''Trust but Verify'', even with my closer friends.
It's better to have some degree of skepticism, in my humble opinion.
Gotta balance things out, right?
If the above doesn't strike your fancy, you could go with the principle of equal exchange and see how things go from there (verify the exchange first, of course).
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:33 PM
So you don't trust anyone? Nominate anyone to take care of your money when you are incapacitate or your family if they are financial savvy with financial management? =)
My Maxim in life " If i tell you , then i will have to kill you" :p
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:36 PM
1) I don't get what you mean by common beliefs and value system?
2) How do you know if what the person is the truth....maybe it was a well placed lie acting as truth so you might not be able to bring the person down as you thought but the other is able too....
Firstly, common beliefs and value system.
Secondly.. mutual trust relationship in place, like "Joint and Several Guarantee". Either one can bring down the other equally.
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:37 PM
How do you know they will never take a cent if entrusted with them? Experienced it before? Tried and tested?
People change when it involves large sums of money..... when we least expect it.
Yes of cos!!
I have frds I know will nv take a cent from what I entrusted them with.
Sometimes it's very tiring to keep doubting and guessing.
If the person is not trustworthy, the person is not worthy to be a frd
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:40 PM
Great that he trusts you.
What if your ATM has 500,000 dollars and his has only 5,000 ? So does knowing each others passwords make you comfortable ?
Whats makes you so sure he won't betray your trust? tried and tested before? or just pure blind fate?
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Ans : not i give but he give me keys to his wealth. We both know each other atm passwords :D
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
Ans: Yes he is the only 1 i trust. Becos i kenna betrayed by my frds b4.
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
Ans: becos he is my other half. He proved it himself n thus earned d trust from me.
E.g. when he go drinking with his frds, he sure let me know his whereabouts.
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:43 PM
The reason why had two different questions on trust is that money & emotional secrets are two different types of secrets.
People change when it involves large sums of money, it has been proven over and over again through human history...so what you so sure the person won't change? Has the person over number of times proven his/her reliability and trust?
My best buddy. One of the reason is we both share through up and down together. We hold each other secrets, and till this date. Our friendship is stronger than even my family member.
Up to the extend that I can pass her my atm card (with $ inside of course) and ask her draw cash for me etc.
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:45 PM
It is go great to have such a best buddy. Its a rare thing to have.
I am guessing both of you have gone through life struggles and also financially and each has helped the other through bad times and has show his/her trust with money and life.
True?
For me, I have yet to meet a person that I totally trust, I trust some people to an extend and others not at all. Every person I have met over period of time has shown they want to take advantage of you one way or another at opportunistic times. They never do it directly, everything is indirectly and as discreet as possible.
These experiences have taught me to be cautious of people and their varied interests. These people in general are very nice people , will help you if needed, but while helping they will also see if they can benefit from it etc....
Life would be very sad if you did not trust anyone.
I trust my best bud. We taught eachother everything we know about life.
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:55 PM
Interestingly, that is what most people will expect, but the world has shown that is the not the case.
From the grandson who hurts his grandmother to steal her money.
Parents stealing kids trust fund for their own addictions.
Sibling fighting each other for control over money
etc...etc....etc...
So many cases, so even though it seems like the natural answer, it might not be the natural answer.
I thought the natural answer will be your spouse, esp if you have children. Eventually, parents would (in most cases) give to their children.
Flinger2
01-07-2014, 09:56 PM
How do you do that?
Trust them with my wealth and see if they abuse it and then try to get back the money? :)
My policy would be ''Trust but Verify'', even with my closer friends.
It's better to have some degree of skepticism, in my humble opinion.
Gotta balance things out, right?
If the above doesn't strike your fancy, you could go with the principle of equal exchange and see how things go from there (verify the exchange first, of course).
PPGirl
01-07-2014, 11:01 PM
Great that he trusts you.
Ans: we both trust each other & not only 1 sided.
What if your ATM has 500,000 dollars and his has only 5,000 ? So does knowing each others passwords make you comfortable ?
Ans: Well if this apply to my case, its d other way round lolz
Whats makes you so sure he won't betray your trust? tried and tested before? or just pure blind fate?
Ans: yes proven. He is a very careful person so can see things further than i do. If there is no trust between couple, no point being together right. I dun really trust any of my close frds anymore except my other half.
After so many incidents happened to me with my frds, secrets are not meant to be shared even to your very close frds becos u never know who is ur frd or foe.
jnudes
02-07-2014, 04:26 PM
After so many incidents happened to me with my frds, secrets are not meant to be shared even to your very close frds becos u never know who is ur frd or foe.
I used to have best friends b4. Not anymore now. Just normal friend. Just live the way that I like even though I have to do it alone. For example, single traveler.
I prefer to keep my mouth shut about my personal problem in front of friends. What I do realize now is once they are married and starting a family they are going to abandon and ignore you.
PPGirl
02-07-2014, 09:32 PM
I used to have best friends b4. Not anymore now. Just normal friend. Just live the way that I like even though I have to do it alone. For example, single traveler.
I prefer to keep my mouth shut about my personal problem in front of friends. What I do realize now is once they are married and starting a family they are going to abandon and ignore you.
u dont have any frds to go travel with u?
Not all pple will abandon frds once married. More likely come out lesser cos they have their own families life after all.
Smallandstrong
05-07-2014, 11:31 AM
Perhaps some food for thought;
Liars think everyone's a liar.
Cheaters tend to think everyone else cheats too.
You reckon? :)
Flinger2
05-07-2014, 07:09 PM
I disagree.
Liars think they can lie to anyone and not get caught . The reason they can lie everyone is because most people in general don't lie unless in certain circumstances.
Cheaters cheat because they know most people are trusting of people that's why they can get away with it. If everyone cheats, it won't be so easy for them to cheat in the 1st place. =)
Your premise is wrong you reckon? heh.
Perhaps some food for thought;
Liars think everyone's a liar.
Cheaters tend to think everyone else cheats too.
You reckon? :)
georgemagnum
05-07-2014, 07:54 PM
Trust no one, period. :)
Flinger2
06-07-2014, 01:51 AM
Is it possible to live without trusting anyone?
Trust no one, period. :)
PPGirl
06-07-2014, 01:21 PM
Is it possible to live without trusting anyone?
How abt family members?
Johnbass
06-07-2014, 02:51 PM
"No Man Is an Island" - John Donne
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Not limpeh say one hor...
:D
Flinger2
06-07-2014, 04:24 PM
Have you ever been cheated by family members?
I got my experience and know of many cases. Strangely, money seems to change people.....
How abt family members?
PPGirl
06-07-2014, 05:59 PM
Have you ever been cheated by family members?
I got my experience and know of many cases. Strangely, money seems to change people.....
Nope...so far my family members are quite supportive
xuanz
06-07-2014, 06:27 PM
Money, the mother of all evil.
TimesLikeThese
06-07-2014, 11:12 PM
Nope...so far my family members are quite supportive
You are a extremely lucky man, treasure them
firejalan
07-07-2014, 07:47 AM
Trust... One..
My Ex...
Can trust w my life ..
Coz she nvr lie to me ..
But she is only willing to trust me up to $500...
Haha..
Zzz....
georgemagnum
07-07-2014, 12:51 PM
Is it possible to live without trusting anyone?
Perhaps I add a word to it, snr bro ....
Trust no one completely :D
EatPrayLove
07-07-2014, 01:29 PM
Trust no one, period. :)
Sad to say, i do have to agree with you on this.
It's known to many I have a big heart, that I trust ppl too easily and that's the reason I was betray over and over again, till the point I no longer have any friends....
If having a big heart is wrong, I think it's time I should start being a bitch instead.
Money, the mother of all evil.
Money is not the mother of all evil.
Money is good, it's the human's greed that makes it evil.
Read: human's greed.
maxsee
07-07-2014, 02:03 PM
I trust myself and my parents.......:D:D:D
EatPrayLove
07-07-2014, 02:33 PM
I trust myself and my parents.......:D:D:D
There will come a day you wouldn't trust yourself anymore nor your parents....
Not being pessimistic here. Just something I went through personally once awhile. :)
Flinger2
07-07-2014, 02:41 PM
You don't trust yourself?
What do you mean by that? I understand that you don't trust yourself to manage your money or have the willpower to control certain habits etc....
Is that what you mean?
There will come a day you wouldn't trust yourself anymore nor your parents....
Not being pessimistic here. Just something I went through personally once awhile. :)
Flinger2
07-07-2014, 02:42 PM
I concur with your view.
Sad to say, i do have to agree with you
Money is not the mother of all evil.
Money is good, it's the human's greed that makes it evil.
Read: human's greed.
Flinger2
07-07-2014, 02:44 PM
There are % of trust?
How many % do you need in order to ask the person to be your guardian of your finance when you are down and out and need help with it?
Perhaps I add a word to it, snr bro ....
Trust no one completely :D
maxsee
07-07-2014, 03:11 PM
How could you not trust your ownself??? There is no way you can betray your ownself unless you do it on purpose....:confused::confused::confused:
Kuan Aik Hong
07-07-2014, 03:16 PM
Guess who is the greatest enemy???
Smallandstrong
07-07-2014, 03:47 PM
I disagree.
Liars think they can lie to anyone and not get caught . The reason they can lie everyone is because most people in general don't lie unless in certain circumstances.
Cheaters cheat because they know most people are trusting of people that's why they can get away with it. If everyone cheats, it won't be so easy for them to cheat in the 1st place. =)
Your premise is wrong you reckon? heh.
In that premise, the taste is right. I don't doubt it. ;)
Smallandstrong
07-07-2014, 03:50 PM
There will come a day you wouldn't trust yourself anymore nor your parents....
Not being pessimistic here. Just something I went through personally once awhile. :)
This I agree.
Parenting gone wrong on my end.
Fighting for favoritism and attention.
Then it sparked "politics" between the spouses. Which inadvertently affected the mental state of mind between siblings and increased sibling rivalry. :(
Smallandstrong
07-07-2014, 03:51 PM
How could you not trust your ownself??? There is no way you can betray your ownself unless you do it on purpose....:confused::confused::confused:
I trust my heart, but my dick and mind tells me otherwise. How? :confused:
maxsee
07-07-2014, 04:24 PM
End of the day...it is still your own choice...so I don't see how it would mean that you would betray your ownself...:confused::confused::confused:
Wintermelontea
08-07-2014, 03:27 PM
Is there anyone in your life that you trust totally without a doubt that you will give them the keys to your wealth ?
Also, do you trust anyone truly that you feel you can tell them your secrets and you know they will keep it for life?
If you do? appreciate if you can tell me why you trust them so much ? What did they do to gain that trust from you?
No. Not totally. I don't even trust myself so much :D
I tried. Still trying. I hope to those people that known my secrets will keep it forever. If not, refer to point 1 above.
Refer to point 1.
EatPrayLove
08-07-2014, 09:43 PM
You don't trust yourself?
What do you mean by that? I understand that you don't trust yourself to manage your money or have the willpower to control certain habits etc....
Is that what you mean?
Nope. That's not what I mean.
You have got it all wrong.
End of the day...it is still your own choice...so I don't see how it would mean that you would betray your ownself...:confused::confused::confused:
Trust doesn't means getting betray.
What I am driving at is, I don't trust myself in making certain decision which regardless which decision I made, I will end up hurting myself and/or my closed ones.
The best decision I think I have made is to totally ignore everything and start being a bitch. That way, will I am able to protect myself from being hurt over and over again with ppl twisting my words and use it against me...
imdestinyz
09-07-2014, 11:43 PM
Why not?
THe greatest perks of being trusting, is a clear conscience, because the safest way to do it is to have nothing to hide.
Flinger2
09-07-2014, 11:53 PM
I think you misunderstand the question.
The question is do you trust anyone? not if you are a trustable person. =)
If you do trust someone who? and why? Whats makes you trust the person without any question? Just pure blind faith ? or something else?
Why not?
THe greatest perks of being trusting, is a clear conscience, because the safest way to do it is to have nothing to hide.
imdestinyz
10-07-2014, 01:49 PM
I think you misunderstand the question.
The question is do you trust anyone? not if you are a trustable person. =)
If you do trust someone who? and why? Whats makes you trust the person without any question? Just pure blind faith ? or something else?
I think u misunderstood my reply.
Flinger2
11-07-2014, 01:12 AM
If I understood your question, I won't be saying that right?
So maybe you can clarify what you saying as I don't understand.
I think u misunderstood my reply.
Flinger2
11-07-2014, 01:15 AM
I am of doing the same, be a bitch to people . I trust people and I try to be responsible, trustworthy and caring person. But in return all I get is the opposite.
Gotta change I guess.
Nope. That's not what I mean.
You have got it all wrong.
Trust doesn't means getting betray.
What I am driving at is, I don't trust myself in making certain decision which regardless which decision I made, I will end up hurting myself and/or my closed ones.
The best decision I think I have made is to totally ignore everything and start being a bitch. That way, will I am able to protect myself from being hurt over and over again with ppl twisting my words and use it against me...
fouredz
11-07-2014, 03:10 AM
maybe you can try it out trusting someone you think you cannot trust..
oppose your feel, you mind hit the right "trustable" person.
something like drifting...
my real life example.. i thought this is quite actual..
Ayakata
11-07-2014, 11:43 AM
honestly, i never trust anyone fully before. sometime i don even trust myself, so how could i trust others? and then again, i trust myself more than others haha contradicting. i trust myself to get the task done than others. talking about friends or bf trust. they have to earn it. once lied to me, i find it difficult to trust them again.
EatPrayLove
11-07-2014, 05:15 PM
I am of doing the same, be a bitch to people . I trust people and I try to be responsible, trustworthy and caring person. But in return all I get is the opposite.
Gotta change I guess.
Ya man!
I realized it's always the bitches that wins in the end.
Especially the drama bitches.
Everyone will think that just because they cry and/or react emotionally to the situations, they are the real victim.....
Keeping quiet doesn't helps.
So might as well be the bitch.
HCKing
11-07-2014, 08:15 PM
Ya man!
I realized it's always the bitches that wins in the end.
Especially the drama bitches.
Everyone will think that just because they cry and/or react emotionally to the situations, they are the real victim.....
Keeping quiet doesn't helps.
So might as well be the bitch.
got time go read this book called the prince by machiavelli. it tells u hw to be a winner when interacting and socialising with ppl. :D
imdestinyz
11-07-2014, 09:22 PM
Ya man!
I realized it's always the bitches that wins in the end.
Especially the drama bitches.
Everyone will think that just because they cry and/or react emotionally to the situations, they are the real victim.....
Keeping quiet doesn't helps.
So might as well be the bitch.
Those who always believes in tears/drama bitches... are usually the really dumb ones.
EatPrayLove
11-07-2014, 10:10 PM
got time go read this book called the prince by machiavelli. it tells u hw to be a winner when interacting and socialising with ppl. :D
Serious bo?
I only read once.
Maybe should re-read that again.
EatPrayLove
11-07-2014, 10:10 PM
Those who always believes in tears/drama bitches... are usually the really dumb ones.
Sadly to say, 80% of humans will still fall for it. :)
imdestinyz
11-07-2014, 10:38 PM
Sadly to say, 80% of humans will still fall for it. :)
yea true... because alot of humans are really non thinkers... especially guys... some cant think properly.
megachiongster
14-07-2014, 04:53 PM
yea true... because alot of humans are really non thinkers... especially guys... some cant think properly.
agreed.
most people are so lazy to think....
EatPrayLove
15-07-2014, 12:13 AM
yea true... because alot of humans are really non thinkers... especially guys... some cant think properly.
its not just guys......
female to female or male to female..... tears always works.
1st who cries always win regardless who's fault it is.
that is why i don't trust anyone any more.
not even myself or my family members.
PPGirl
15-07-2014, 12:51 AM
Those who always believes in tears/drama bitches... are usually the really dumb ones.
Luckily im not as i found out a few frds really dramatic.
If 1 time a person betray me, i still can forgive but if 2nd time happen.. sorry this person dun deserved any more chance no matter how much he/her do. Nothing can bring back the frdship anymore.
Some frds u might thought he/she is ur gd frd but end up he/she is doing small actions behind ur back. But when u found out, u wouldnt believe ur eyes that the frd u always trust is doing some hurtful things to u. So hurt that u cant even tell whether are they really ur frds or not.
Some even dun even bother to say sorry after do wrong things to u. Do u think u still can trust those ppl? Are their prides so big that its so hard to say sorry?
maybe you can try it out trusting someone you think you cannot trust..
oppose your feel, you mind hit the right "trustable" person.
something like drifting...
my real life example.. i thought this is quite actual..
Dun understand what are u trying to say but if d person u cannot trust. How is it possible to tell things to that person?
<<totally>>
15-07-2014, 02:34 AM
Qn: Do you really trust anyone?
That answer is deep inside your heart and subjected to change over time. Trust is something that will be abuse over time in one way or another. It covers too big an area. Too many factors to consider. Never take other's trust for granted and trust is a two way traffic.
If you decided to trust someone, anything goes wrong then you got noone but to blame yourself for giving away that trust easily. Learn from the mistake and avoid making the same mistake. Once bitten twice shy.
So if you are giving out your trust, prepared to get hurt. If you are not ready for the pain, I suggest do not give it out. Getting trust required sacrifice without wanting anything back in return. Can most people do it? Remember do not compare what you did and what other do for you in return. By doing so, you are not truly sincere, as trust has no conditions.
Trust is build over time and has to be reviewed as maintaining a life long bond is a difficult task to do. Some people can be trust with anything but money. While some people can never be trusted because they are near you for a motive or reason. Or some people can be trustworthy with your life but not with any secrets of oneself.
Sometimes you cannot even trust yourself if you have to make a decision over something you desired for. If you can betray yourself so what is there to complain. One will be not worthy to comment on trust.
No such thing as one trust fit all sizes. Open your eyes and use your brain to decide what can be trusted and what cannot be trusted for individuals. :D
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