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squirt
14-12-2005, 09:30 AM
this boon lay sec sch teacher was caught filming a gal's upskirt and kenna jailed. During the trial, defender psychatrist said it is a mental problem saying the condition is "characterised by repeated and intense sexual fantasies or behaviours concerning the act of watching an unsuspecting person who is naked, disrobed or having sex", which has "clinically significant distress or impairment in work, social or personal functioning".
Isn't that the characteristics of my behaviours? Am I also significantly distress or impared in work, social or personal functioning?
Most samsters here would also classify under this group. Really, I just feel these psychiatrist are jiak liao beng(eat waste rice).:rolleyes:
gonggong18
14-12-2005, 11:32 AM
this boon lay sec sch teacher ....the characteristics of my behaviours? Am I also significantly distress or impared in work, social or personal functioning?
Most samsters here would also .....:
Me too I am stressed and a good man..
when I die the one who read my eulogy will attest to it..
this is how it will begin.
"He was a good man..." (I copied this part & he follows or else he won't get to read ..)
Wang Ye
14-12-2005, 11:36 AM
Psychiatrist are know to be nuts. Even if a guy has no problem they will say he got a problem. Most of us here not kuku like the teacher as to go round filming people on purpose. At best if got free show we watch.
Castrol
14-12-2005, 11:47 AM
murder, rape, robbery, obscene acts... all these people go to court face the judge will need psychiatrists' help. its how they get a reduced charge or sentence.
if the psychiatrists always say those people (or anybody who seeks psy help) are normal and without any mental problem, many psychiatrists may be out of job? :D
Dr_Yap
14-12-2005, 11:54 AM
Psychiatrist are know to be nuts. Even if a guy has no problem they will say he got a problem.
Dear Bro,
Please refrain from making understatements until you have solid evidences to conclude the insanity of psychiatrists.
It is deplorable you should degrade someone's work. Psychiatrists are here to help, not to be branded a lunatic.
Please show some respect for the profession.
Dr_Yap
squirt
14-12-2005, 12:20 PM
Dear Bro,
Please refrain from making understatements until you have solid evidences to conclude the insanity of psychiatrists.
It is deplorable you should degrade someone's work. Psychiatrists are here to help, not to be branded a lunatic.
Please show some respect for the profession.
Dr_Yap
do you admire someone who make his living by telling stars? OR look at people's palms?
In a court case, it is common to see psychiatrists on both sides, defendents and prosecutors. Each sides will have their own theory to help their clients. Science is not like this. In science, white is white, black is black. You cannot say until black becomes white. But in psychology, you can do that. Although mmany ppl try to make psychology into a proper science(like BF Skinner), psychology can never become a proper science like physics or chemistry becos results are non-repeatable in the experiments.
I'll make reservations on commenting the profession, but I give other people the benefit of the doubt...
squirt
14-12-2005, 12:25 PM
I have the first condition(which horny guy don't? Say,if a hottie zao geng right in front of you,you will look away meh?) but not the second one.
I guess it's the matter of controlling your desire.:D
wasn't clear with your 2nd condition. Which one? I guess the watching other people having sex? As you mention, it is a matter of controlling your desire, meaning you(and me, and US) have the desire. Just that we do not go and take the photos purposely. WE can control ourselves.
That teacher have the same desire as us, but cant control himself. So i feel he should be punished becos he does not respect women's privacy.
But what I dun like is that the psychiatrists say people who have these desires are socially incompetent. That is not the case.
plumshirt
14-12-2005, 12:33 PM
Well, lets put it this way... this dude, I mean, this guy is being charged. Maybe he got no ill intention... but he was caught in the act.
We all know all men have desires and self control... but without any psychiatrists speaking up for him - imagine what's his charge...
Moreover, such social science dudes got to follow protocol one... play, play lose licence one.
squirt
14-12-2005, 12:50 PM
Well, lets put it this way... this dude, I mean, this guy is being charged. Maybe he got no ill intention... but he was caught in the act.
We all know all men have desires and self control... but without any psychiatrists speaking up for him - imagine what's his charge...
Moreover, such social science dudes got to follow protocol one... play, play lose licence one.
no ill intention? Do you know how many gals I seen on the road I like to screw them there and then. But I didn't because i respect them. I dun wan to cause them hurt and make them traumatic for the rest of their lives. But this guy invade their privacy. Desire is desire, but when he did it, he has ill intentions already. Even if it is not to share with us, but just by invading the privacy, it is ill intention already.
i ntoice i like to repeat things i said. very strange :rolleyes:
squirt
14-12-2005, 12:52 PM
Well,what I meant was my horniness does not affect other aspects of my life.
Say,maybe the teacher just did it out of fun/thrill more than the sexual thing?
Anyway,handphone take pictures so small where got shiok?
small is better than nothing. If done properly, can still see the right things...
simplyd
14-12-2005, 12:55 PM
Anyone know if he is a fellow samster ?
Dickster
14-12-2005, 01:44 PM
yeah loh i agreed . It a matter of controlling our urges . I also working in a sch environment. Imaging seeing all the gals during their PE lessons or other sports eca .. Waot..... but have to control lah
plumshirt
14-12-2005, 02:05 PM
Squirt,
Btw no papers here so cant read article but
Ref - "Maybe he got no ill intention... but he was caught in the act."
This one is a between the fence arguement. Aiya, no ill intent means he would not really do girls any physical harm... otherwise, I support judge must recommend 'rotan'.
I doubt anyone who is into such things want to get caught.
He only do it to satisfy his fantasy/thrill... If no one is aware, hard to say invasion of privacy...
plumshirt
14-12-2005, 02:06 PM
Btw Squirt, Take note I am also not pleased with his actions
mccormick
14-12-2005, 02:20 PM
In the army.. we were banned from using camara phone.. looks like this trend will hit the schools very soon... :)
patpat
14-12-2005, 02:29 PM
the teacher from boon lay sec? anyone know his name?? i m from boon lay sec .... but that was about 15 years ago.....
Dickster
14-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Good day to all,
Wah in school also cannot use camera phone ah... if this trend goes on most government sectors personnels will find it useless to buy any latest model phones liao. Lol maybe all use 8250 ?
Rof|maoxz
14-12-2005, 04:06 PM
wasn't clear with your 2nd condition. Which one? I guess the watching other people having sex? As you mention, it is a matter of controlling your desire, meaning you(and me, and US) have the desire. Just that we do not go and take the photos purposely. WE can control ourselves.
That teacher have the same desire as us, but cant control himself. So i feel he should be punished becos he does not respect women's privacy.
But what I dun like is that the psychiatrists say people who have these desires are socially incompetent. That is not the case.
I remember a female teacher who set up her web blog sometime back selling kinky stuff right? But I think her ricebowl is seriously dented now. I think all walks of life with different professions have their own desire, hobbies and time. These belong to their "own time", unless they dun break the law.
Good day to all,
Wah in school also cannot use camera phone ah... if this trend goes on most government sectors personnels will find it useless to buy any latest model phones liao. Lol maybe all use 8250 ?
I wonder why policemen/women can use their camera phones in their station lay? They are so many vital info in the database. Who knows someone misuse them, like those cust service officers in Telcos??
Spytheman
14-12-2005, 04:14 PM
Teachers are human being , lawyers too, doctor got sexual desire . Work and lifestyle is different. I heard got male teacher gena f by school but it is ok for female to dye ? And it is a good school. But for a guy to break the rule , i think we better think twice loh. we got urge , just PCC loh
squirt
14-12-2005, 04:58 PM
Btw Squirt, Take note I am also not pleased with his actions
actually dunit rotan him. I think with his name on the papers is enuf to ruin his reputation forever.
squirt
14-12-2005, 05:00 PM
the teacher from boon lay sec? anyone know his name?? i m from boon lay sec .... but that was about 15 years ago.....
his name in the papers, but only taught in BL for abt 2 yrs. Age 28, must be mid-career switches.
who_represents
14-12-2005, 05:06 PM
Sigh... must be tactical mah, do it but don't get caught.
All of us got hum sup tendencies, girl bend down we tip toe and hope to see breasts, girl go up escalator we slow down behind and hope to see panties, girl sit opposite in MRT we yearn for her to cross her legs and we can see a bit more leg... Given a choice, we would want to take a picture discretely and hopefully nobody sees :D
You go hawker centre and the hawker miscalculates your change and give you more, will you return the excess? I keep quiet, hee hee :o
squirt
14-12-2005, 05:06 PM
that is the trouble with education staff. I personally feel that a lot(and I dun mean everyone!!) of teachers are very hypocritic. Always say teacher must not do this or do that. Cannot ride motorbike, dye hair, smoke etc etc. Teacher got their own life what. Role model does not mean a plastic model. It should be the character of a teacher that is more important. Not the external things. Students cannot smoke doesn't mean teachers cannot smoke. So what if students want to challenge? Say "I teacher, you student, how to compare?"
Too many people think role model means if students cannot do this, then teachers also cannot do them. This IS A VERY BIG SERIOUS MOTHER FUCKING MISCONCEPTION!!!!!
Then the grand question is:
"Can teacher find chicks at geylang?"
who_represents
14-12-2005, 05:08 PM
Yo squirt, you teacher is it? hahaha :D Now holiday, no students you also eng eng huh?
sythe
14-12-2005, 05:10 PM
wor really siao wan man.....
squirt
14-12-2005, 05:10 PM
Yo squirt, you teacher is it? hahaha :D Now holiday, no students you also eng eng huh?
ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh............
geylang18
14-12-2005, 05:24 PM
Dear Bro,
Please refrain from making understatements...
Dr_Yap
Dr Yap, its mis-statement la or even overstatement. Understatement means u say not enuf...
asdfghjkl
14-12-2005, 05:28 PM
bro.. where is the article.. i want to read it? :)
who_represents
14-12-2005, 05:32 PM
Dr Yap, its mis-statement la or even overstatement. Understatement means u say not enuf...
hahaha, i think Dr Yap was thinking of the under skirt picture too much to make an understatement, hahahaha :D
asdfghjkl
14-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Teacher jailed for filming up women's skirts
He was caught when boyfriend of woman he was filming saw a camera in his bag
By Tanya Fong
Dec 14, 2005
The Straits Times
A SECONDARY school teacher was jailed for six weeks yesterday for using a hidden digital video camera to film up women's skirts.
Loh Teng Siang, 28, a form teacher who taught English and Art at the co-ed Boon Lay Secondary School in Jurong, was caught at the Esplanade Park on Jan 21 while trying to film a woman using a camera concealed in a paper bag.
In court yesterday, the prosecution proceeded with one charge against him and took three other charges into consideration.
Loh, who is married, committed the offences on four occasions between Jan 19 and 21.
On the first occasion, at about 8.05pm on Jan 19, Loh filmed up a woman's skirt while going up an escalator at Boon Lay MRT Station. He did the same thing to two others on a train between 10.35pm and 10.40pm.
Two days later, he was caught when the boyfriend of a 22-year-old woman he was trying to film at the Esplanade Park became suspicious and demanded to see what was inside his bag. He called the police when he saw the camera and realised what Loh had done.
In July, Loh was charged in court with intent to insult the modesty of a woman by intruding upon her privacy. The penalty is a jail term which may extend to one year, or a fine, or both.
In court yesterday, his lawyer Anand Nalachandran submitted in mitigation a report which claimed that Loh's voyeurism was a psychiatric condition.
Dr Chua Hong Choon, a consultant psychiatrist from the Institute of Mental Health, said the condition is 'characterised by repeated and intense sexual fantasies or behaviours concerning the act of watching an unsuspecting person who is naked, disrobed or having sex', which has 'clinically significant distress or impairment in work, social or personal functioning'. Loh had been harbouring these fantasies for many years, but acted on them only after he acquired a digital camera.
In court yesterday, Loh's wife, who is five months' pregnant with their first child, submitted a personal appeal to magistrate May Mesenas asking the court for a compassionate sentence.
She said she was surprised he had committed such an act and based on what she knew of him, she would accept that he did it 'out of human weakness'.
The principal of the secondary school where Loh taught wrote a testimonial for him describing him as a dedicated teacher who 'has no cause for the school to question his conduct or integrity' in his two years there. His pastor also said he was 'a faithful man of integrity'.
Magistrate Mesenas said in sentencing that she had considered some aggravating factors: that there was more than one victim and that Loh was a teacher in a secondary school.
It was the second such case this week. On Monday, a 29-year-old man was jailed for four weeks for using his cellphone to film up a woman's skirt.
http://www.asiaone.com/st/st_20051214_358711.html
who_represents
14-12-2005, 05:43 PM
Too many people think role model means if students cannot do this, then teachers also cannot do them. This IS A VERY BIG SERIOUS MOTHER FUCKING MISCONCEPTION!!!!!
Then the grand question is:
"Can teacher find chicks at geylang?"
hahaha bro squirt, if you got children with such teachers, would you trust them? hahaha :D
Rof|maoxz
14-12-2005, 06:06 PM
his name in the papers, but only taught in BL for abt 2 yrs. Age 28, must be mid-career switches.
Did you went to NIE after your NTU? :D
Teacher jailed for filming up women's skirts
He was caught when boyfriend of woman he was filming saw a camera in his bag
By Tanya Fong
Dec 14, 2005
The Straits Times
A SECONDARY school teacher was jailed for six weeks yesterday for using a hidden digital video camera to film up women's skirts.
Loh Teng Siang, 28, a form teacher who taught English and Art at the co-ed Boon Lay Secondary School in Jurong, was caught at the Esplanade Park on Jan 21 while trying to film a woman using a camera concealed in a paper bag.
http://www.asiaone.com/st/st_20051214_358711.html
I tot our 146th dun publish names of govt school so openly?? Why this time? Double standard?
Rof|maoxz
14-12-2005, 06:13 PM
that is the trouble with education staff. I personally feel that a lot(and I dun mean everyone!!) of teachers are very hypocritic. Always say teacher must not do this or do that. Cannot ride motorbike, dye hair, smoke etc etc. Teacher got their own life what. Role model does not mean a plastic model. It should be the character of a teacher that is more important. Not the external things. Students cannot smoke doesn't mean teachers cannot smoke. So what if students want to challenge? Say "I teacher, you student, how to compare?"
Too many people think role model means if students cannot do this, then teachers also cannot do them. This IS A VERY BIG SERIOUS MOTHER FUCKING MISCONCEPTION!!!!!
Then the grand question is:
"Can teacher find chicks at geylang?"
Can, why not, male teachers also have cocks what!!
Rof|maoxz
14-12-2005, 06:36 PM
Just asking,if you secretly take a snapshot of a gal(not zao geng pose),is it a crime?
If your took a picture of a unknown female in the public, she has the liability to claim back that picture in your phone although the phone is in your possession.
squirt
14-12-2005, 06:38 PM
Just asking,if you secretly take a snapshot of a gal(not zao geng pose),is it a crime?
ppl put his wallet in front. Can you take it?
squirt
14-12-2005, 06:44 PM
hahaha bro squirt, if you got children with such teachers, would you trust them? hahaha :D
if i say yes, no one believe also. So let me put it in another way:
A teacher's task is to teach the subject and nurture a child. So a good teacher must first be able to teach the subject properly. So we come to nurturing. Nurthuring means to teach the child learn what is right and wrong. If that can be done, then the teacher is a good one. By teaching, it means TEACH, not making a copy of the standard model and ask every students to copy you. That is not a good teacher. That is copycat, monkey-see-monkey-do. That IS NOT TEACHING. So what if the students left school and start copying everryone they see outside? That is not correct. It is more impt to let the students learn how to differentiate what is right, what is wrong. So we see:
smoking, is it wrong?
go geylang, is it wrong? etc etc...
Krappy
14-12-2005, 09:10 PM
no ill intention? Do you know how many gals I seen on the road I like to screw them there and then. But I didn't because i respect them. I dun wan to cause them hurt and make them traumatic for the rest of their lives.
Respect?! You scared of breaking the law or scared of rejection lah... If you respected them you would not think of fucking them there & then! If a guy that told me he wanted to make love to my sister the 1st time he saw her but decided not to because he RESPECTED HER I'd kick his ass!
thaivisitor
14-12-2005, 09:34 PM
So he only got 6 weeks, never kenna rotan. Lucky him.
Cheers
Tee Vee
squirt
15-12-2005, 12:44 AM
So he only got 6 weeks, never kenna rotan. Lucky him.
Cheers
Tee Vee
name also come out already. Where to hide his face next time? I dun think he is lucky...
squirt
15-12-2005, 12:53 AM
Respect?! You scared of breaking the law or scared of rejection lah... If you respected them you would not think of fucking them there & then! If a guy that told me he wanted to make love to my sister the 1st time he saw her but decided not to because he RESPECTED HER I'd kick his ass!
if i am on an isolated island with another very pretty gal, I will not rape her. I am afraid of the law, but I did not rape her because I respect her. So it comes to see how you define "respect". If a guy saw your sister and feel like making love to her, it is only a thought, a fantasy. Out of respect for your friendship and your sister, he will not mention abt the making love thing. But when alone, if he want to use your sister to PCC or whatever, we cannot say he has no respect for your sister. That is what fantasizing is all abt...for doing what we cant do in reality. WE cant control our minds like those highly enlightened beings through meditation. The least we can do is after having evil thoughts, we can still do good. That is HUMANE.
squirt
15-12-2005, 12:57 AM
So do you think it's wrong for male teachers go try paid sex?
how i think is not impt. It is how you think...
asdfghjkl
15-12-2005, 01:01 AM
If your took a picture of a unknown female in the public, she has the liability to claim back that picture in your phone although the phone is in your possession.
guess i have to find this woman back to give the photo to her liao.. :o
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/459/s0ae.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s0ae.jpg)
squirt
15-12-2005, 01:04 AM
One of my friends who works in the Civil Service showed me a handbook about code of conduct or something like that.I remember one of the lines said civil servants are discouraged from visiting brothels.Since Geylang is an explicit brothel and HC is not-somemore much more discreet-I think male teachers feeling itchy should visit HCs instead.Notwithstanding the higher cost,it is still well within their financial limits.:p
i think i read that before. Discourage means NOT CANNOT. So, it means CAN.
Many things like smoking, you think teachers cannot smoke? Actually MOE din say can't. Only law say cannot smoke in 500m from school compound. But sometimes principals good so that set some rules for smokers.
GL or HC, it comes down to belief again. If your think it is more impt to be seen properly behave, then HC being more discreet will be a better choice. But if you believe in health, the GL being more regulated is the better choice.
sexytoy.com.sg
15-12-2005, 01:50 AM
How is he going to face his students and fellow teachers? LUST is sinful
thaivisitor
15-12-2005, 10:59 AM
How is he going to face his students and fellow teachers?l
With a videocam????
Tee Vee:D
obelisk
15-12-2005, 11:08 AM
and to think so many ppl came up to speak on his behalf...
think about his wife and unborn child...
then the school authorities....
his pastor...
maybe he might jus hang himself in jail...
how he gonna face so many ppl after coming out sia...
Rof|maoxz
15-12-2005, 12:17 PM
guess i have to find this woman back to give the photo to her liao..
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/459/s0ae.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s0ae.jpg)
I hellp you find also. :)
The_Unrepentant
15-12-2005, 01:12 PM
In science, white is white, black is black. You cannot say until black becomes white. But in psychology, you can do that. Although mmany ppl try to make psychology into a proper science(like BF Skinner), psychology can never become a proper science like physics or chemistry becos results are non-repeatable in the experiments.
I'll make reservations on commenting the profession, but I give other people the benefit of the doubt...
Who say so??:confused: Do U know abt quantum mechanics or superstring theory??In quantum world, particle can be waves.Waves can be particle.There is still a lot of controvsey in science too.;)
Do you know how many gals I seen on the road I like to screw them there and then. But I didn't because i respect them. I dun wan to cause them hurt and make them traumatic for the rest of their lives.
sure a not? I think is because of the strict laws rather tha ur conscience
The_Unrepentant
15-12-2005, 01:24 PM
that is the trouble with education staff. I personally feel that a lot(and I dun mean everyone!!) of teachers are very hypocritic. Always say teacher must not do this or do that. Cannot ride motorbike, dye hair, smoke etc etc. Teacher got their own life what. Role model does not mean a plastic model. It should be the character of a teacher that is more important. Not the external things. Students cannot smoke doesn't mean teachers cannot smoke. So what if students want to challenge? Say "I teacher, you student, how to compare?"
Too many people think role model means if students cannot do this, then teachers also cannot do them. This IS A VERY BIG SERIOUS MOTHER FUCKING MISCONCEPTION!!!!!
Then the grand question is:
"Can teacher find chicks at geylang?"
who say teacher cannot ride motor bike?If ur kids' teacher smoke,speak vugularity,dye hair(i think ok), cheong geylang also ,wat u feel?
Certain proffession need to have certain codes to abide.If they cant do it,then don go into the proffesion.simple as that.Education is not just abt teaching kids academic stuffs(espically sec sch and pri sch teacher).If it is tat simple ,any tom can do it.:cool: I feel that they need to abide by stricter dress codes and regulation.I am talking abt teachers in primary and secondary schs.Of course this does not apply to lecturers in tertiary education where the students are young supposedly thinking adults .
medicheng
15-12-2005, 08:34 PM
wat is the biggest sex toy for men ever?
your mind....
lolx
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