Ways to beat okt pricing and timing [Archive] - The Asian Commercial Sex Scene

discoverer

31-12-2005, 07:23 PM

Haha,okts and their runners gonna zap me for starting this thread but i think it to the benefits of all bros here.

As all of u guys know,all overseas gals be it prcs,euro,viets etc etc have only limited time for their stay here.U guys should know that whenever the gals just arrive or even b4 they arrive,the okts or their runners will start advertising and saying how good and fantastic their gals are.It basically to raise their price and make u guys gian for them.Another stats i found out is why they always make it a 2 shots session at 90mins.It just so that they get higher $ back even for those that can only manage 1 shot.Why must it be for only 90mins and not 2hours.U pay the money and have to force to do it in 90mins.Unite and demand for 2 hours for u to enjoy the session.Why dun they have 1 shot session for those that only can do 1 shot?Think about it.If u guys start boycotting their gals,definitely when no business,prices will start having promotion as u all can see when the gals are nearing the end of their stay here cos they anxious to get as many customers as possible.So please unite and bring down their prices and extend the timing to 2 hours instead of 90mins.u guys can do it.

As for those so called okt price wars and mudslinging,it good for us.Go only to those that offer the best prices,that way u will kill off those so call sub okt who will markup the gal prices.Unethical practices by those so call okt who dun keep to their words should be fully publicise to warn fellow samsters.This way all of us will benefit and the okt will have to lower their prices and provide top notch services to us.At times we have seen too many fake frs by so call customers who actually are okts in disguise to promote their inferior gals at inflated prices,so please be united to weed out all this idiots and expose them.

These are just some of the things that i would like to highlight to u guys,the paying customers so dun be bullied or cheated by them.

Ok okts and their runners,u may zap my point now when this thread appear.As for those of u who have other opinion on this matter and would like to contribute to this thread,dun be afraid to voice out ur thoughts even though it may cost u some points deduction.In the long run if all of us cooperate,we will get better deals and better rates:D

discoverer

01-01-2006, 04:32 PM

85 viewers and no one wants to get involve in this thread?Come on,it for the benefits of u guys.Maybe i have stir the hornet nest by bringing up this topic.It ok as long as u guys unite to bring down the pricing:)

boysaigon

01-01-2006, 04:54 PM

hi Bro,

Um....i guess in every trade, we need to have healthy margins to do business. If the margin is too low...there will be no motivation to bring in solid stocks or maintain decent service...

the market rate will be determine by the invisible hands of none other then the market itself. If the OKTs price their stock way to expensive, the demend will not match their expectation in the longer run. Having said that, I personally feel that it is the misrepresentation that kills a business...things like giving a younger age or bigger bust reading...worse still false claims like cim but ended up the offer is different once you engaged the service...

i do hope bro who kao kwan this group could reflect the truth of their visit in their FRs so that the market force can be more efficient in rooting out the weaker ones.

me no runner nor operater, just hope that even in this grey trade, the customer service can be as solid as our SQ class.

never bother about points but even kana zapped for singing the different tunes...ai..live and let live lah.

Hope all bros can all work together toward bringing a better SB environment for all.

this time, i hope not kana zap again if not no one will buy my true words anymore...hahahaha...

boy

cerebusjr

01-01-2006, 05:18 PM

poompoom

01-01-2006, 05:27 PM

hahahah many good pts......huayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wan sui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How abt u bring in for us to enjoy at the best and lower price..kum sia....i will ask my supporters to support u................:D

I think geylang cat80 and cat150 expensive too for 45 min for 1 shots.....u should bring yr suggestion to gelyang OKT too.......

Kiang tio ho....Mai kek Kiang
hahaha, i agreed. i will also send my elite force to fully support if tis bro can give us tis type of kangtao. comfirm everyday full hse. maybe by then we need to be his sub liao. hahaha.

bedek05

01-01-2006, 05:46 PM

Hi bro discoverer ... its nice to see someone make a stand for ownself... In this SB it is the sharing that counts. Of course some gals are controlled by OKT and some OKTs made their own price plans. But ultimately we are the customers . We decide to spend on who we choose to spend on.If the service is good we defitnitely go for RTF.If the services sucks ,we definitely will boycott that gal or OKT. We still have the right to choose. Afterall it is our own hardearned money that we want to spend and to spend it wisely and enjoyable . Don't u agree? For all the OKTs in this SB i think there is something goin on as the market is very competitive. I'm sure the OKTs know their customers well and will not charge a too high a price. Sillypore is so small and the spirit of this SB is strong. Just my 2 cents worth... but i believe we still have a choice to do it or not to do it. Afterall its your hardearned money.:cool:

The_Unrepentant

01-01-2006, 05:56 PM

Um....i guess in every trade, we need to have healthy margins to do business. If the margin is too low...there will be no motivation to bring in solid stocks or maintain decent service...

agree.

the market rate will be determine by the invisible hands of none other then the market itself. If the OKTs price their stock way to expensive, the demend will not match their expectation in the longer run.

This only applies to market tat are PERFECTLY competitive.I don think the market here is perfectly competive.Wat is perfectly competitve ?please read up urself.

Do u mean in the long run? In the long run, we are all dead.Any idea who say tat?:D

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discoverer

01-01-2006, 06:01 PM

hahahah many good pts......huayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wan sui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How abt u bring in for us to enjoy at the best and lower price..kum sia....i will ask my supporters to support u................:D

I think geylang cat80 and cat150 expensive too for 45 min for 1 shots.....u should bring yr suggestion to gelyang OKT too.......

Kiang tio ho....Mai kek Kiang
Hohoho,last time there is no cat80 nor cat150.It was cat100 and cat200 but business no good that y gave 20% discount to make it cat80 and cat150.Why do u think there is different cat cos when cat150 no business they will have to drop to cat80.Not here to argue with u but just hope can get good prices for samsters here rather than inflated prices.

discoverer

01-01-2006, 06:03 PM

hahaha, i agreed. i will also send my elite force to fully support if tis bro can give us tis type of kangtao. comfirm everyday full hse. maybe by then we need to be his sub liao. hahaha.
Dun have meh,read through the posting and u can see for your good self.When the gals ending their stay here,always have promotion prices.Why not from the first day they are here?It because time running short or lack of customers hence the promotion to entice the customers to go for it:D

discoverer

01-01-2006, 06:12 PM

hi bro,agree with u totally...many many good points in ur post.end of the day,there must be certain awareness abt those sub standard okts.i m ok with okts as long as their gals provide services that justified their prices.many times,they got many ah bang ah dek will post those unbeliveable frs to entice customers and the okts will promise the sky in their adverts and the gals turn out to be far from those promises!

nevermind abt being zap bro,many bros will up u back coz end of the day,we r the customers and if they wanna earn our $,they have to ensure we get wat we pay for.it's all asking for a fair deal,thats all.....

cheers
That what i am trying to tell fellow samsters here to becareful of fake frs and overprice gals.As for the points thing,it doesn't bother me one single bit because if kena zapped til jialat jialat,just register new nick and come in again and again.Can register many nicks like most of the okts in here:D

anyway thanks for the support on this stand.

rols

01-01-2006, 06:12 PM

poompoom

01-01-2006, 06:17 PM

Dun have meh,read through the posting and u can see for your good self.When the gals ending their stay here,always have promotion prices.Why not from the first day they are here?It because time running short or lack of customers hence the promotion to entice the customers to go for it:D
agreed too. seriously n frankly speaking, doesnt the gals give their best during the 90min? i cant deny tat some dont but most does. agreed tat shld boycott if the gals is no gd but y must b 2 hr? through my experience, 80% r ok with the 90min timing. nt all can come 2 shots within 90min but they still enjoy. again y mus b 2hr??? does it bec u have hard time getting ur small bro up 4 the 2nd round so u need longer timing? ur small bro need rest, gals oso need rest. anyway, tis the last time i will reply to u in tis thread, u got ur pts. we noe wat u looking at n hope tis lobang will give ur happiness. happy new yr.

discoverer

01-01-2006, 06:33 PM

agreed too. seriously n frankly speaking, doesnt the gals give their best during the 90min? i cant deny tat some dont but most does. agreed tat shld boycott if the gals is no gd but y must b 2 hr? through my experience, 80% r ok with the 90min timing. nt all can come 2 shots within 90min but they still enjoy. again y mus b 2hr??? does it bec u have hard time getting ur small bro up 4 the 2nd round so u need longer timing? ur small bro need rest, gals oso need rest. anyway, tis the last time i will reply to u in tis thread, u got ur pts. we noe wat u looking at n hope tis lobang will give ur happiness. happy new yr.
I am not aiming at any particular okts,just to highlight out.Yes i can't do 2 shots maybe in 90mins so i need to rest longer.I also understand the gal need to rest but if it is 2 hours then it won't be so rush for the gals also.It is the okts who are rushing and pushing the gals to their limit in order to make more money so dun say the gals need to rest also.

You yourself also give promotion prices in your own thread and was being zap so u can see that other okts are not happy because inadvertendly it affect their business too.You mean to say you like your customers so much that u give this special price to them or because of your so call dreams:D

antlau

01-01-2006, 07:22 PM

Demand and supply determine the prices....quality also plays a part...

why the prices drop during the end of the stay of the gals? hmm...maybe due to depreciation? :D ....and also like chinese new year eve night, the prices of flowers and the "ju" plants drop like 75%...

New cars also more expensive than old cars...same principle?

There is no way to beat anyone or anything...principle of market-driven theory...

Got 1 more analogy...why HDB flats during their low prices, government can cease selling for awhile, and then once market better, release for sale again? why not the buyers all go buy condos and semi-Ds?:D

boysaigon

01-01-2006, 07:36 PM

hi all bros,

seems like there are more exchanges here for this topic.

for what i see, price alone is NOT an issue. The qualitative representation of the gals are. If the specs are misleading/false then, we are not paying for what was offered. THAT, should be an issue to all bros who part with their hard earned cash.

So, we all should give our support to those service providers who give trueful spec and expose those who mislead.

cheers to all.

aikoN79

01-01-2006, 07:47 PM

At times we have seen too many fake frs by so call customers who actually are okts in disguise to promote their inferior gals at inflated prices,so please be united to weed out all this idiots and expose them.

Threadstarter, i 99.9% believe that u r a clone. Of one of the samster here who has dis-satisfied service from one of the OKT. And who had Thai gals under him. And u also mention sub-okt. Why not just say out who lor ~~

Which OKT here is good and which is not good, everyone can see complains/praise for themselves and judge.

Dun because of one bad flower (okt) burn the entire forest (okts) :D

aikoN79

01-01-2006, 08:02 PM

From what i know,
PRC drop from $150 to $120
Thai drop from $140 to $130
Jap/korean drop from $200 to $150

So, if drop any further, everyone can close shop le ~
If u wan any cheaper, go to GL lor.... or petain rd. $40 nia ~ :D

discoverer

01-01-2006, 08:02 PM

Threadstarter, i 99.9% believe that u r a clone. Of one of the samster here who has dis-satisfied service from one of the OKT. And who had Thai gals under him. And u also mention sub-okt. Why not just say out who lor ~~

Which OKT here is good and which is not good, everyone can see complains/praise for themselves and judge.

Dun because of one bad flower (okt) burn the entire forest (okts) :D
You think you are very smart.The main intention of this thread is to try to get better deal for fellow samsters here.I did not exactly pinpoint any okt or gal.Why must you say Thai gals.In my post i mention prcs,viets,euros etc etc.You mean to say this kind of post should not be posted to highlight to fellow samsters here.Are we to follow what they dictate or just follow blindly.Please lah ok you also was unhappy with 1 okt for doing something wrong to you and you also posted out.So you can post and i can't post just because you are more senior:rolleyes:

For your information,there was not a word mention about any thai girl in my initial post.

aikoN79

01-01-2006, 08:12 PM

Why must you say Thai gals.

So you can post and i can't post just because you are more senior

Please lah ok you also was unhappy with 1 okt for doing something wrong to you and you also posted out

For your information,there was not a word mention about any thai girl in my initial post.

?? Yo why get so hot up ??? :confused:

1) Most ppl will know "90mins 2shots" refers to Thai lor....
Which other gals offer 90mins 2 shots de ???

2) this is a free forum, everyone can post. i never say u cannot post this kind of thread mah ......

3) At least u know who i am talking about mah ?? :D

4) what i wanna say is, if u not happy with one of them, jus say out lor, dun need to "burn the whole forest" And i also already indicate over the time, the price has drop too ~

P-E-A-C-E

siamcutey

01-01-2006, 08:29 PM

Hohoho,last time there is no cat80 nor cat150.It was cat100 and cat200 but business no good that y gave 20% discount to make it cat80 and cat150.Why do u think there is different cat cos when cat150 no business they will have to drop to cat80.Not here to argue with u but just hope can get good prices for samsters here rather than inflated prices.

Last time was how long ago?
U want to bring Cat80 and Cat150 to compare ah?

Cat 80 and Cat150 is only 45 mins

So if you count by 90mins, it should be Cat160 and Cat300 liao loh.

Then why thais in GL is Cat40??? And no where near $80 or $150. Also 1 pc of pussy meat mah. Why Petain/Keong Siak selling At $30? Also a piece of pussy meat mah

End of the day, if you feel disgruntled about this kind of whole issue, the only way is boycott lah. Remember to BOYCOTT OK.

Don't here say say already then behind go and do 1 booking yourself. :rolleyes:

hehehe
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aikoN79

01-01-2006, 08:29 PM

siamcutey

01-01-2006, 08:32 PM

I am not here to create trouble but to highlight out all points in FL dome as a reminder to all samsters so they won't be taken for a ride.

hehehe, so all OKTS pls read,

He could be suggesting that in future you all give 1 shot instead of 2 shots because cannot cum 2 times in that timing. :p

So if the OKTs start to give only 1 shot instead, should the customers start to blame u or blame the OKTs, because you say 2 shots very hard to cum in 90mins mah?

hehehe
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discoverer

01-01-2006, 08:43 PM

End of the day, if you feel disgruntled about this kind of whole issue, the only way is boycott lah. Remember to BOYCOTT OK.

Don't here say say already then behind go and do 1 booking yourself. :rolleyes:

hehehe
SC
Haha,not to worry about that because i have never ever patronise any of the okts here before.

discoverer

01-01-2006, 08:47 PM

hehehe, so all OKTS pls read,

He could be suggesting that in future you all give 1 shot instead of 2 shots because cannot cum 2 times in that timing. :p

So if the OKTs start to give only 1 shot instead, should the customers start to blame u or blame the OKTs, because you say 2 shots very hard to cum in 90mins mah?
hehehe
SC
You also very funny or maybe u become emotional.I did not say that okts should only give 1 shot instead of 2shots for their session.Come on logic will tell you that if 1 shot of course the rate will be different from 2 shots.Just that customers can have the option of having a 1 shot session or 2 shots session if they so desire.It ok for all the bombardment so that it make more interesting reading all kinds of reasoning from all quarters.

siamcutey

01-01-2006, 08:48 PM

Haha,not to worry about that because i have never ever patronise any of the okts here before.

So u trying to tell everyone here that BMW sucks because u have never ever driven a BMW before? :rolleyes:

kekeke
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discoverer

01-01-2006, 08:51 PM

Oh i know why u using clone to voice out your anger le....
u r afraid that the OKT will look at his records and trace back to u ???

Of course u dun worry about your pts being zap cos this is a clone mah... if resident nick then have to worry rite ?

threadstarter, u may pm me if u wan further discreet discussion :D
What there to be discuss discreetly?I have already stated i don't have any hidden agenda against any okt.Just to bring out the topic to be shared and discuss by all samsters.Judging by the reply in the post only you know who come in with strong rebuttal.i am not out to wreck anyone ricebowl just hope that we can get better deals for fellow samsters that all.

siamcutey

01-01-2006, 08:57 PM

You also very funny or maybe u become emotional.I did not say that okts should only give 1 shot instead of 2shots for their session.Come on logic will tell you that if 1 shot of course the rate will be different from 2 shots.Just that customers can have the option of having a 1 shot session or 2 shots session if they so desire.It ok for all the bombardment so that it make more interesting reading all kinds of reasoning from all quarters.

I thought u are the one who is the most emotional here by starting this thread, so u should expect views coming from all sides. Or u expecting answers that you like best?

Anyway, I don't bonk Cat150, but I also don't say Cat150 don't give the most bang for bucks.

And u haven't answer me on the comparison of Cat80 and Cat150 yet. I make it bigger scared you cannot see and missed it out.

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discoverer

01-01-2006, 09:17 PM

So u trying to tell everyone here that BMW sucks because u have never ever driven a BMW before? :rolleyes:

kekeke
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So your own meaning is if you can get a better deal you would not want it? Come on i am here just trying to get better deals and service quality for samsters and u are trying to bring it out of context.Anyway you have your views and so do i.If you think that all of the samsters are getting their money worth,you are entitle to think that way:D

discoverer

01-01-2006, 09:22 PM

I thought u are the one who is the most emotional here by starting this thread, so u should expect views coming from all sides. Or u expecting answers that you like best?

Anyway, I don't bonk Cat150, but I also don't say Cat150 don't give the most bang for bucks.

And u haven't answer me on the comparison of Cat80 and Cat150 yet. I make it bigger scared you cannot see and missed it out.

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I started this thread hoping to increase the awareness of fellow samsters not to accept overprice gals or substandard services.is that wrong?Are we to ignore this and get ripped off again and again.I did not say all are bad nor did i mention anyone at all.Like i say,i am not here to create any trouble but just to share my views.i may not have all the answers that why post out for all to share their views.it seem like not many dare to voice out for fear of being blacklisted.Don't you guys like to have better deals and services?

RedIndian

01-01-2006, 09:22 PM

With regard to sessions and timing, I failed several times to make satisfactory second session in given time. Tacit demand of cewek, " you finish, I go back" will not only lessen our mood but degrade our confidence. I started thinking that I am not capable second time in same night!

My recent encounters with different kind of environment proved that I am capable of doing 5 times a night. I never used medicines. I am willing to teach on RedIndian's way of performing. You require lot of money to spend (not my tution fee - but more on quenching additional thrust!). Just kidding. kekeke.

I fully agree with our senior samster on the saying "don't burn forest ...". No need to explain on freedom of expression.

siamcutey

01-01-2006, 09:25 PM

So your own meaning is if you can get a better deal you would not want it? Come on i am here just trying to get better deals and service quality for samsters and u are trying to bring it out of context.Anyway you have your views and so do i.If you think that all of the samsters are getting their money worth,you are entitle to think that way:D
Like u said earlier, u have never ever tried, how do you know the deal is no good for the others? For people who have tried, if they feel its no good, they move on.
My philosophy is U only earned my money ONCE, and thats it if service sucks.

U don't see the others coming in and say let's unite and bring the price of Cat150 down since the Thais are worth only Cat40 in Geylang.

Talk about striking better deals, u could probably start a Consumer Body for the cheongsters or something, and that would be more concrete than just telling the rest of the people here to think in the same way like you and demand for better prices.

Anyway I let u continue, and hope your support goes up lah.
:rolleyes:

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RedIndian

01-01-2006, 09:26 PM

?? Yo why get so hot up ??? :confused:

1) Most ppl will know "90mins 2shots" refers to Thai lor....
Which other gals offer 90mins 2 shots de ???

2) this is a free forum, everyone can post. i never say u cannot post this kind of thread mah ......

3) At least u know who i am talking about mah ?? :D

4) what i wanna say is, if u not happy with one of them, jus say out lor, dun need to "burn the whole forest" And i also already indicate over the time, the price has drop too ~

P-E-A-C-E

I appreciate your expression. Do we require to confess to a clone?

RedIndian

01-01-2006, 09:31 PM

aikoN79

01-01-2006, 10:32 PM

...my stand still the same...okt wan earn $ and promise the sky,they have to deliver their promise.

cheers

Agreed ~!! And if that OKT cant promise, jus move on to another OKT lor.. wat's the big deal ???

To the threadstarter, a samster once comment this to a OKT :" I rather let u earn the money (even though your price is higher) than let that OKT (that bad flower in the forest) earn !!! Just fix the appt for me. Thanks"

etilious

01-01-2006, 10:50 PM

dont fight anymore....

in the end, its the customers' choice... when there is demand, there is supply... when there is supply, there is demand...

u know??? economics!!! demand-supply curve...

OKTs wanna earn their cut of share...the girls also wanna earn for their hard work... it is no easy money trying to sextisfy so many customers a day, u know???

PEACE GUYS!!!

Castrol

01-01-2006, 11:13 PM

The main intention of this thread is to try to get better deal for fellow samsters here..

better deal. why dont you intro non okt FLs for fellow samsters here? i mean cheap and good FLs, not overpriced or whatever, like you mentioned. can you please? we want all the different nationalities hor. understand?

when you pm or email the okt, price no good, so fuck off.
when you go see the okt girl in the hotel, fucked up, so fuck off.
anybody intro the okt girl in SB all 8/10 and 9/10 ratings, knn commonsense will tell you not to believe those fucking FR right? whats the fucking problem?

there's no need to go against any okt. they are around to provide choices for us. the price high, they get lesser customers. the price good, they get more bookings. thats all, simple.

all the hooha about N*F and there are still thousands donating regularly. you know what the fuck i'm saying?

if The Hustler is reading your posts, he will support you 100% becos i think he's anti okt, although i am not sure if he's boy or girl la. he has many strong fucking opinions, like you.

JWNY

01-01-2006, 11:43 PM

Haha,okts and their runners gonna zap me for starting this thread but i think it to the benefits of all bros here.

I did not quote the whole post, but this response is with regards to it.
I'm not sure how long you have been involved within the commercial sex scene but for me, there's no problem price wise and logically, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
While i do agree bad OKTs per se should be published, we have to be realistic, in business there are good and bad businessmen, sometimes we have the choice as customers...you try once, you don't like it, you move on to the next one.
The only thing that perturbed me about your post is your attempt to rally others to support you to have the 90 mins changed to 2 hours? Come on...you have to be fair...if you need more time, then you have to pay more. There is no way to judge what is a "fair" time towards your money. If the rules were laid out that $XX is worth 90mins, then so be it...if you would want to negotiate with the OKT personally...that is up to you.
Women working hard to spread their legs, and you trying to spread your dollar value as much as you can? That is all i disagree with your post, bad OKTs should of course NOT be tolerated. That is the power of the customer.

If people have no money to f**k, quite crudely and bluntly, DO IT YOURSELF...not at the expense of the working girls. Commercial sex was not catered for everyone. I'm sure you knew that. :cool:

JWNY

The_Unrepentant

02-01-2006, 12:17 AM

U know y so ex bo? because gahment fine okt a lot or go jail.U go ask ppl pettion to legalise okt then sure price will drop.I the_unrepentant guarantee u!just like drugs.Y so ex? cause the penalty for it is heavy.U ask ppl here support u.At the end of the day, even if u get wat u wan , the number of okts and fl avaliable will drop also.quality will drop also.If heroine sell for $50 20g, u wan to carry bo.Higher the $$, encourage more ppl into the business and hence more okt fl.See wat ppl looking for loh.Don have best of both world one:D

u bo ching, u bo pin, u bo dua liab nee.;)

Reaper

02-01-2006, 02:02 AM

hhhmmm..no offence to bro discovery...ut u seem to be campaigning very strongly for your own personal cause..which seems to be the extension of time....dare i say it has got to do with erectile functions & "recovery time"????there are mani ways to get around this problem...be it through "medication" or just simply asking for a price for 1 shot.....

I have personally tried mani okts as well as gone to gl to try FL/WL..all of them have their pros and cons...we can discuss this issue till our cock hairs touch the ground and we will never come to a conclusion....

I guess its just got to do with what you want at that particular point in time..sometimes I like the hunt....sometimes i just like to be pampered.....sometimes i like both......

CHEERS

onion_rings

02-01-2006, 08:38 AM

If people have no money to f**k, quite crudely and bluntly, DO IT YOURSELF...not at the expense of the working girls. Commercial sex was not catered for everyone. I'm sure you knew that. :cool:

JWNY[/FONT][/SIZE]
Wah Bro very seldom see u post in FL dome hoh...Hahaha like the way u put it "Not at the expense of working girls" ...:D

JWNY

02-01-2006, 10:39 AM

Wah Bro very seldom see u post in FL dome hoh...Hahaha like the way u put it "Not at the expense of working girls" ...:D
Hi Bro, yah seldom post in this section :)
Just giving my 2 cents...we want to enjoy our time, not be classified as cheapos...we want to f***, we also should observe decorum. No money, no honey...

Happy New Year Bro OR...

JWNY

discoverer

02-01-2006, 11:58 AM

Haha,okts and their runners gonna zap me for starting this thread but i think it to the benefits of all bros here.

Another stats i found out is why they always make it a 2 shots session at 90mins.It just so that they get higher $ back even for those that can only manage 1 shot.Why must it be for only 90mins and not 2hours.U pay the money and have to force to do it in 90mins.Unite and demand for 2 hours for u to enjoy the session.

Go only to those that offer the best prices,that way u will kill off those so call sub okt who will markup the gal prices.Unethical practices by those so call okt who dun keep to their words should be fully publicise to warn fellow samsters.This way all of us will benefit and the okt will have to lower their prices and provide top notch services to us.At times we have seen too many fake frs by so call customers who actually are okts in disguise to promote their inferior gals at inflated prices,so please be united to weed out all this idiots and expose them.

These are just some of the things that i would like to highlight to u guys,the paying customers so dun be bullied or cheated by them.

In the long run if all of us cooperate,we will get better deals and better rates:D
Judging by most replies,it seems like majority of u accept what on offer right now.We just have to accept it.It has become a topic whereby my disability to have 2 shots within 90mins questioned.Or rather the gals need to rest blah blah blah,hence the 90mins.If those customers can't manage to do 2shots in 90mins it their erectile problem and their recovery problem.Other points in my post was not being highlighted.If this okt or this gal no good,just move on and let the next sucker have it.It ok no big deal.Yes,senior samsters will know there are alot of fake frs here but what about new samsters?Like some say,we can discuss or argue till the cow comes home but what will be the end result,yet to know?

Ultimately it is up to u guys.Mostly i can see replies in favour of okts and understand the gals because they work for their money,so fellow samsters that spend their hard earned money must just accept it.I did not say all are bad,did i but it seems like being arrowed on this particular point about the 90mins.Any of you senior guys like to start a list of okts or sub okts that charges high prices and inferior gals or bad service gals?No right because worried kena label as troublemakers.

I have been advise to be lenient in my replies and if i should antagonise or sound arrogant or make any mistakes in my postings in sb,i humbly offer my apologies here.

Good day to all and may you all have a wonderful and properous 2006.

aikoN79

02-01-2006, 12:04 PM

Threadstarter, glad that u have been enlighten. :D
Wow ~! Your points up so fast ah ??? within one day up 11 points.

Elusion

02-01-2006, 12:08 PM

Wow ~! Your points up so fast ah ??? within one day up 11 points.
Erm............clone??? :D

Castrol

02-01-2006, 12:17 PM

Any of you senior guys like to start a list of okts or sub okts that charges high prices and inferior gals or bad service gals?No right because worried kena label as troublemakers.

I have been advise to be lenient in my replies and if i should antagonise or sound arrogant or make any mistakes in my postings in sb,i humbly offer my apologies here.

.

can you tell us who advised you to be "lenient"? you are such a good boy.

about that "list of okts and sub okts that charge high prices etc etc...", why dont you start one and maybe other bros will follow up and add your list. how? or are you afraid to be kena label as troublemaker?

use your regular nick la. and i'm still waiting for you to intro lobangs to us here instead of talking talking talking.

JWNY

02-01-2006, 12:27 PM

other points in my post was not being highlighted.
Discoverer,

Tell us what was not highlighted so we can justify your claims

JWNY

wankmehappy

02-01-2006, 01:17 PM

Haha,not to worry about that because i have never ever patronise any of the okts here before.
when i 1st read this thread, tot bro discoverer really got some sense....after reading futher on, you really sound fishy.....sorry to say that but how come you never try anyone before but talk so much???? why dont you go try 1st then tell us how you feel again??? issit because you scare you will LUGI??? most of the bro here doesnt really agree of what you say but i think none have actually deducted your pts as there is no mention of it but instead of your pts going down, it shot up quite fast....are you really a clone??? if it true. what your hidden agenda???? what you trying to prove here???? please lar, if holiday period ,ake you so free & nothting to do, can go help out in NKF lar, dont come in here & say this, sat that but end up no action. dont be a TONA(talk oni, no action)....kekekekeke
happyme:D

BustLover

02-01-2006, 01:32 PM

Yes,senior samsters will know there are alot of fake frs here but what about new samsters?Like some say,we can discuss or argue till the cow comes home but what will be the end result,yet to know?

Bro Discoverer, senior samsters here may have learn the hard way and majority have been around for a long time. For newbies, the same procedures apply, unless you are talking about a special elite group of talent newbies that must be experience and knowledgeable within a short period of time.

Or are you asking the seniors here to spoonfed the newbies? They got to spend time & effort to learn. This is what experience is all about. You need to spend effort, time and money to accumulate.

Your case here is like consuming canned drinks at coffee-shop. You go to any supermarket to buy soft-drinks. At the very most, it costs 50 cents per can. Then you order it at any coffeeshop, it is gonna cost you $1.00 and perhaps $2 at some posh outlet! Are you asking everyone to boycott the coffee-shop but buy from supermarket?:D

Not right? Market force and other factors will eventually balance the equation.

discoverer

02-01-2006, 01:36 PM

Just for your all to know.I have tried Lisa,helen both the milfs,ivy the massage gal,the 40+ yrs old housewife,nis,fifi,esther,amelia,karen the prc,julie the so call syt etc etc.Only i never try any of the okt girls.If u think i up my own points,it up to you to think.

I can see where you guys all coming from,jumping on the popular bandwagon depending on which side the wind blows.It ok because it make no difference to me.It doesn't hurt me at all.You are right,any topic that doesn't conform to the norm posted by newbies are term schoolboy antics,go back to school or nothing better to do etc etc.

Since school term start tomorrow,i go back to school and just keep reading and surfing the forum.As to those that up me,sad to say you guys didn't put in your nicks.I understand,never go against the crowd.So bye bye and school here i come:D

Hope you guys carry on bombarding to justify that what we are getting are good deals in here.Adios amigo

onion_rings

02-01-2006, 02:31 PM

No money, no honey...

Happy New Year Bro...

JWNY
Happy Belated New Year to u too...

Some says go get a GF & u can save a lot...But in actual fact u will only spend even more...Example "buying diamond on her birthday & bring her holiday when she wants it" etc etc...So like what u says again( No money No honey) Best is to pcc wash up & yr $$$ still in the wallet...:D

So who's care if the okt can bring us quality girl...Dun expect to bonk a model for $150-$200 hoh...

aikoN79

02-01-2006, 04:16 PM

TONA(talk oni, no action)....kekekekeke

It should be NATO right ??? talk oni no action ....:D

Threadstarter, all my "arguements" in SBF are from a neutral point of view. I never take any sides or go with the wind.

NATO

02-01-2006, 04:32 PM

It should be NATO right ??? talk oni no action ....:D

Threadstarter, all my "arguements" in SBF are from a neutral point of view. I never take any sides or go with the wind.
u looking for me:D

wankmehappy

02-01-2006, 04:43 PM

It should be NATO right ??? talk oni no action ....:D

Threadstarter, all my "arguements" in SBF are from a neutral point of view. I never take any sides or go with the wind.
you see....now bro NATO tot you looking for him....that why i put TONA....kekekeke
happyme:D

NATO

02-01-2006, 04:49 PM

you see....now bro NATO tot you looking for him....that why i put TONA....kekekeke
happyme:D
hahaha,thk for the kind consideration.up u wen power recover;)

MuffDiver69

02-01-2006, 11:40 PM

actually what discoverer said made some sense, lets start with the 90mins, okt says gal needs rest, 90mins means more customers in same amount of time as compared to 120mins. where got more rest? (contradicting). maybe okt should have 2 price structures. $80/1/60 and $150/2/120. that way bros can choose which package they want. if more bros choose 60mins, okt make more, every 2 hours, okt make $10 more. having said that, gal probably fucked out by the end of it. (more fresh customers, lagi shiong) all these is based on the assumption that there is a constant flow of customers and gal is fully booked everyday.

As for the false FRs, we know that there are plenty of them, these gals are only here for a limited time hence they would want to maximise their profit and obviously they wouldn't give a fuck about repeat customers, right? So if their service sucks and appearence is not what is reported (fake FRs), they couldn't care less. so by the end of their stint, they make their money and the okts took their cut, they fuck off. OKTs can say that they have a new batch, definitely better than the last, and apologise for the last fuck up and promise to make sure that the new batch make up for the last. (typical durian seller speach). then again, there are always beautiful ones with great service. these are to the benefit of everybody.

I'm not taking any sides, just speaking from my experience. (with both OKTs and durian sellers) As some bros mention, its all about economics, I totally agree. suppliers who can't cut it would be cut off in the long run. but there should always be some leeway for negotiation between demand and supply, supply should be a curve and not a horizontal line.

pussies are just pussies (8 teals of meat), its the value added pussies that demands a higher price.

cheers all
Happy Nude Year:D

MuffDiver69

02-01-2006, 11:41 PM

i accidently posted twice..... apologies

aikoN79

03-01-2006, 12:08 AM

Actually i also quite curious who started the 150/90/2 thingy ......
How come the rest of other nationalities dun have this rate ?

discoverer

03-01-2006, 01:14 AM

better deal. why dont you intro non okt FLs for fellow samsters here? i mean cheap and good FLs, not overpriced or whatever, like you mentioned. can you please? we want all the different nationalities hor. understand?
when you pm or email the okt, price no good, so fuck off.
when you go see the okt girl in the hotel, fucked up, so fuck off.
anybody intro the okt girl in SB all 8/10 and 9/10 ratings, knn commonsense will tell you not to believe those fucking FR right? whats the fucking problem?

there's no need to go against any okt. they are around to provide choices for us. the price high, they get lesser customers. the price good, they get more bookings. thats all, simple.

all the hooha about N*F and there are still thousands donating regularly. you know what the fuck i'm saying?

if The Hustler is reading your posts, he will support you 100% becos i think he's anti okt, although i am not sure if he's boy or girl la. he has many strong fucking opinions, like you.
Ok i will pm you 1 so call fl introduce here and you please go and try and then get back to us whether this so call lobang is overprice and valued for her service but then you also may not want to try her because the choice is still yours to decide

Did i personally pinpoint any okt,i just mention about those unethical okts or sub okts right?

Why should you bring others into the picture,i am not totally against all okts? If by having different opinions are not right,how are we to bring changes perhaps for better services or progress.If everyone were to follow the norm since ancient times,will we have progress this far in society?There is not a need to use the f word to make your point because you also entitle to your own views and opinions.

discoverer

03-01-2006, 01:28 AM

Bro Discoverer, senior samsters here may have learn the hard way and majority have been around for a long time. For newbies, the same procedures apply, unless you are talking about a special elite group of talent newbies that must be experience and knowledgeable within a short period of time.

Or are you asking the seniors here to spoonfed the newbies? They got to spend time & effort to learn. This is what experience is all about. You need to spend effort, time and money to accumulate.

Your case here is like consuming canned drinks at coffee-shop. You go to any supermarket to buy soft-drinks. At the very most, it costs 50 cents per can. Then you order it at any coffeeshop, it is gonna cost you $1.00 and perhaps $2 at some posh outlet! Are you asking everyone to boycott the coffee-shop but buy from supermarket?:D

Not right? Market force and other factors will eventually balance the equation.
Ain't this forum all about sharing their experiences.If it is not about sharing then i rest my case.If it is about sharing,like what u say,senior samsters already learn it the hard ways so why shouldn't the senior samsters help by sharing more of their bad experiences and highlight it out to the newbies.A mistake made on the part of the senior during their initial foray into commercial sex should also be experienced by all or most newbies?

Your example of comparing a can of drink can also translate into many other examples.What i was stressing on beside the 90mins thing was overprice gals at below par services provided by unethical okts or their sub okts.If the gals are good and provide value for their services i am not against it.Just wishing to get valued for gal and services as promised.

gl_cowboy

03-01-2006, 01:36 AM

probably based on geylang premium gals 150 rate.

but with "value add" such as guaranteed 2 shots, and double the geylang period 45 mins x 2.

just my guess...

Actually i also quite curious who started the 150/90/2 thingy ......
How come the rest of other nationalities dun have this rate ?

heian_sai

03-01-2006, 01:51 AM

I tried FL OKT ace n san b4. both provide honest and efficient service.
if their service remains, i will patronise them - simple as that!

market forces is the best way to determine price, demand and supply. if you are ok with it, carry on. if not - juz move on lah.
the price will eventually even out to something both parties are 'happy'

only thing i dislike is 'overrated' FR reports.. 8s and 9s.. flying around so cheaply. make me take FRs with pinch of salt.

Reaper

03-01-2006, 03:48 AM

humans are creatures of habits..they will keep doing the same thing as long as they are comfortable with it..even if there are changes..they will reluctantly change or look for somethimg else similar to it.....Like a bro here said..its like the durain seller telling you that all 10 are good but actual fact,3-5 are of average or lousy quality..i have experienced this many times...go back and complaim..but still buy from him and get the same shit.......

Buy saying erectile disfunction..it was more of a medical question than an insult towards to you..if it was taken as an insult than i apologise....

like i previously mentioned..i have tried th eservicves of mani okts..they all have their good & bad points.....some are hits & some are misses...just take into consideration the law averages adn i think all will be better...

I did my own calculation...FL+Room ave $80..pay an extra $50 for another shot, plus guaranteed services seems too hard to resist..but then again..sometimes just want the thrill of the hunt.....out off all the okts gers i have tried...about 40% are very average or lousy fucks..

A wise man once told me:

One man's meat is another man's poison

CHEERS

Castrol

03-01-2006, 10:59 AM

Ok i will pm you 1 so call fl introduce here and you please go and try and then get back to us whether this so call lobang is overprice and valued for her service but then you also may not want to try her because the choice is still yours to decide
Did i personally pinpoint any okt,i just mention about those unethical okts or sub okts right?

.

i read your pm, you mentioned someone here (pinpoint?) whose girl went for >200 and dropped to 150 now. you are asking me to go try and you doubt i will post a FR due to the service and price, and i may not want to "antagonise" anybody. :confused:

you are a funny character. you got problem with that someone, why dont go fucking take it up with him?

when you fuck a non okt FL and received fucked up service, how? you post an honest FR to let bros compare, right?

but when the fucked up FL happens to be an okt girl, you are afraid to post an FR becos you dont want to "antagonise"??? what the fuck? have you forgotten you are a paying customer?

you yourself know you have your choices right? the okts know that too. if you think 200 is too high, you can work it out with the okt on the price, maybe ask for a free beer or a pan pizza la...

we all want cheaper bonks, but try to take it easy.

and ah... dont take offence with my f words, this is not a school site anyway.

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 11:53 AM

maybe ask for a free beer or a pan pizza la...

bro happy new yr...i can ask for a free pizza from u...:D

Ethanas

03-01-2006, 12:25 PM

cerebusjr

03-01-2006, 12:28 PM

hahahahah discoverer, Kiang Tio Ho......Mai Kek Kiang..........;)

Castrol

03-01-2006, 12:51 PM

bro happy new yr...i can ask for a free pizza from u...:D

happy new year bro! btw how you know i just joined pizza hut delivery station? i will make one heart shaped pizza and deliver it to you now, you can share it with one of your pretty colleagues... :D

alextan

03-01-2006, 01:17 PM

We are definitely overpaying. No doubt about that. It is because of the lack of alternatives. Going to GL is terrible. First, risk of being spotted - my friend, who is a senior manager in a big audit firm, once bumped into the cleaner in his office while walking along Lor 18. How not to be jialat???? Second - so bloody difficult to park. Third - someone might recognize your car. Fourth - action starts late, ECP jam like shit .. how to have quick bang before picking up kids from school? With OKT, as early as 10 am also can.

The only way price will be more reasonable is for Goverment to legalize it. Make it like Hong Kong, where all the OKT can post pictures on the internet, where you can get girls to come to your hotel etc for such reasonable prices. Then definitely I wont have to pay $250++ for local girls .......:o

Alex

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 02:01 PM

i will make one heart shaped pizza and deliver it to you
can make it round shape protruding like this (.)(.)...:D

Castrol

03-01-2006, 02:54 PM

can make it round shape protruding like this (.)(.)...:D

definitely can. but what size you want, too big i scared you cannot finish... :D

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 04:12 PM

definitely can. but what size you want, too big i scared you cannot finish... :D
a C or a D would be enough for me...:D

Randi_Candi

03-01-2006, 05:18 PM

a C or a D would be enough for me...
Shoo.....ppl serious discussion, u cum n gar cheow?:p

ok.....back 2 topic but me not like Ethanas 2 read thru all the posts, my personal on-the-fence thots aloud is tat OKTs exists for the fact tat they may b able 2 bring in new blood which is not easily available or sometimes the WLs may not hv the means of getting into SG.

So if u find tat they r able 2 quench ur thirst n dun mind payin abit more than there shd not b much of a hoo ha.......but if u r able 2 ctrl ur urge or hv ur own means then jus go ahead w ur own lobangs:D

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 05:37 PM

So if u find tat they r able 2 quench ur thirst n dun mind payin abit more than there shd not b much of a hoo ha.......but if u r able 2 ctrl ur urge or hv ur own means then jus go ahead w ur own lobangs:D
rare guest...quiet chicken chicken...post nia...hit nail on the wall...:D

Castrol

03-01-2006, 05:43 PM

my personal on-the-fence thots aloud is tat OKTs exists for the fact tat they may b able 2 bring in new blood which is not easily available or sometimes the WLs may not hv the means of getting into SG.

this part hit nail on the ceiling... :D

Randi_Candi

03-01-2006, 05:45 PM

rare guest...quiet chicken chicken...post nia...hit nail on the wall...:D
arbuthen? kena zap for TC many times but sometimes also got ppl appreciate my not so nonsense stuff:D

Randi_Candi

03-01-2006, 05:46 PM

this part hit nail on the ceiling... :D
I m jus stating a fact, not supporting any groups nor individuals
U r my ah pal, SD kaki?:D

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 05:52 PM

U r my ah pal, SD kaki?:D
put it this way...both of us like to drink from big big Cups...:D

Shiokday

03-01-2006, 05:54 PM

arbuthen? kena zap for TC many times but sometimes also got ppl appreciate my not so nonsense stuff:D
okie...time for u to go...this place not suitable for u...better go back to ur TTMS...shoo shoo...

Randi_Candi

03-01-2006, 05:54 PM

put it this way...both of us like to drink from big big Cups...
Then u shd go 7-11, they got super BIG GULP:D
oops......c lar......entice me 2 tc again?

Ok.....me scoot liao, FLD aint my playground:p

Castrol

04-01-2006, 09:38 AM

I m jus stating a fact, not supporting any groups nor individuals
U r my ah pal, SD kaki?:D

hahaha... yes bro, i am SD kaki and disciple... :D

Shiokday

04-01-2006, 09:54 AM

hahaha... yes bro, i am SD kaki and disciple... :D
i hve much to learn from u...esp in the Milk Cups dept....:D

Castrol

04-01-2006, 10:42 AM

i hve much to learn from u...esp in the Milk Cups dept....:D

i can only advise you last time liverpool always win the Milk Cup, but they pour in champagne instead of milk... hahaha... :D

Ethanas

04-01-2006, 11:05 AM

Orh..

You all open orphid in this thread liao si bo?

Never inform me one.

-Ethanas

PrayPray

04-01-2006, 12:07 PM

hahahah many good pts......huayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wan sui!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How abt u bring in for us to enjoy at the best and lower price..kum sia....i will ask my supporters to support u................:D

I think geylang cat80 and cat150 expensive too for 45 min for 1 shots.....u should bring yr suggestion to gelyang OKT too.......

Kiang tio ho....Mai kek Kiang

Do you know that the prices at Geylang used to be higher and its a controlled pricing by AV? The girls only get about 60% of whatever you are paying the rest goes to the OKT and the house.... Even if the OKT or girls wnat to lower their price they cannot because of AV.

discoverer

04-01-2006, 10:54 PM

can you tell us who advised you to be "lenient"? you are such a good boy.

about that "list of okts and sub okts that charge high prices etc etc...", why dont you start one and maybe other bros will follow up and add your list. how? or are you afraid to be kena label as troublemaker?

use your regular nick la. and i'm still waiting for you to intro lobangs to us here instead of talking talking talking.
As to who ask me to be lenient too bad that samster didn't leave down his nick.If i am a good boy,i wouldn't have posted this controversial thread.

So you are not afraid to kena label as troublemaker?You are very happy with all?You must be such a wonderful person with no different opinions against the crowd.

You know why if i got lobangs i dare not to intro?It because got a few of you wanted to support me fully by sending all their elite forces to book my lobangs.That way some of you guys may say my gals will have no time for rest and then you guys will accuse me of abuse?So the only thing i can do here is just to talk talk talk.

I was ask to come back to my own thread because i highlighted something in another thread which has nothing to do with the samster unless he got some connection or invested interests in that particular thread.Another samster reply on behalf of the threadstarter to my queries and miraculously he knew what the threadstarter meant and later threadstarter reply that that is what he meant,maybe have esp skill.He add on other reasons for his postings after it was highlighted.Maybe can recommend to be sailor,you know row row row your boat,( chinese saying peng chun) after being highlighted for being highhanded in his business practice.

Also waiting for those so called high moral samsters that posted here to have a look over there and post their comments or maybe you guys also understand what he meant:rolleyes: Hope you guys don't practice double standard ok.Don't just attack newbies that post thread against the norm but close 1 eyes towards seniors or your buddies or friends.

Many of you senior samsters like to zap newbies for posting many unnecessary threads or asking stupid questions.Newbies will be zap reasons being wasting bandwidth etc etc right?When you zap him you also reply in his thread that you zap him due to his wasting bandwidth and followed by others who will ride with the crowd and post and zap.Aren't you guys also wasting bandwidth by replying in his thread that you zap him?Who can say that all their posts in sb are contributive and has never wasted any unnecessary bandwidth.So come on do you seniors zap each others for posting unnecessarily too?No right, so why the double standard,just because you guys have gatherings or cheong together and know each others and started forming cliques doesn't make you high and mighty.Please spare a thought for others before condemning,cursing or deducting other points.Points may means nothing but to some who needs contact it may be a problem for them.Then again to many in here,points mean the world to them because they want to ride with the crowd.

Another posting that really irks alot of samsters but this is the truth and the truth always hurt.l

CumExplorer

05-01-2006, 12:38 AM

Actually i also quite curious who started the 150/90/2 thingy ......
How come the rest of other nationalities dun have this rate ?

I remember back to 2 years ago the initial patten is 130/90/2, don't know why now changed to 150, services level same or even worse sometimes.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 02:02 AM

My God,

I've actually read through 5 pages of this thread.

Personally I believe this is demand and supply, apparently OKTs can charge as they charge because at the end of the day there are still demand for it. Its about comfort range. Apparently 90 mins 2 shot a lot of people can make it and find it worthwhile why sort to change it?
Threadstarter keeps saying to let bros have more knowledge and apparently he is not open to any other suggestions other than his own opinion, why should any of the bros arguing in this thread try to convince him anyway. He obviously is so proud of his opinion that he would not change his mind and keep trying to hammer the said opinion down our throat.

Personally I've no issues with OKTs charges, and if you find that you are cheated off, talk to the okt. Starting a thread like this is just trying to flame bait. It serve no purpose other than devolving to another flame war.

-Ethanas
I know you are highly acknowledged and well known in this forum so replying to your post may seems like i am going against you.

As for your 1st point,the word apparently means you are also not sure.My point was overprice girls at below par services.I did not say all are overpriced nor all provide below par services or bad services.You guys make me out to be like totally against all okts and their girls.Only those that provide overpriced girls at below par services have to worry,not those that provide girls that provide good services.If the day comes that they really provide actual stated stats and services,won't you be happy too?Some of you say if it ain't broke,don't change it but like i say if it is changes to the better benefits of all,don't you think it is good?Yes,i may be wrong to try for better benefits or deals or whatever you call it but at least i dare to try.

For your point 2,what makes you think i am not open to other suggestions or other opinions?I fully understand that they need to make profits for their works and connections and of course the risk they are taking in providing this kind of services.I don't begrudge them their earnings,only ask them to provide real value for the girls and their services.Is that wrong?By starting this thread in fact for those okts that provide quality girls with good services should be happy because in a way it help to rid off those black sheeps from this trade that cheat or lies to the customers.You also have your own opinion and also don't accept my opinion so can i say you are also very proud that you won't listen or are open to my views?

Point 3,by starting this thread,i was hoping that at least some of us may be able to list out or reasons out the pros and cons but it seems some of you take it in a bad way.Don't just look at things on the surface because every views has its right and wrongs.Who is to say who is totally right or wrong?This is an adult forum so we can reason things out,not by smirking or sneering or passing of uncalled for remarks.

Samster flowerpot,you say that i am another computer hero in the other thread.I don't understand it means because you quoted me directly after i reply to thaiboy to leave that thread.Is it because i listen to thaiboy to leave that thread,i am afraid that you call me another computer hero?Let me know what it means can because if you want me to carry on posting in that thread so that you won't label me another computer hero,i may just listen to you.Too many of you have posted against me and i really can't reply to every individual quote so i am sorry if i didn't reply to your quotes.

As for another samster that deducted my point,you really are a loser and hyprocrite.Deduction is no big deal but why must you put parkisung in the column.I pm parkjisung to check though i have my doubt because he is in negative point so he couldn't possibly deduct my point.You can deduct but why impersonate someone else nick?Really hope you read this and reflect on your goodself ok.

To those that posted in other thread,sorry i can't reply to your quotes because it is not my thread and that for frs.Basically my initial post that i discover my wrongdoings was the word okt,maybe i shouldn't be that obvious but then again what the point of starting this thread if it Doesn't go to the roots of the problem.Maybe it should read as "Against unscrupulous okts that provide overprice girls at below par services".

discoverer

06-01-2006, 02:06 AM

I tried FL OKT ace n san b4. both provide honest and efficient service.
if their service remains, i will patronise them - simple as that!
market forces is the best way to determine price, demand and supply. if you are ok with it, carry on. if not - juz move on lah.
the price will eventually even out to something both parties are 'happy'

only thing i dislike is 'overrated' FR reports.. 8s and 9s.. flying around so cheaply. make me take FRs with pinch of salt.
I fully agree if they provide honest and efficient services you should return and even make recommendations.

It helps if they can only be more open and honest in their frs.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 02:09 AM

I remember back to 2 years ago the initial patten is 130/90/2, don't know why now changed to 150, services level same or even worse sometimes.
Could it be due to inflation or costs of doing business becomes higher or penalties higher hence the price increase.Maybe they can shed some light so that at least we can know.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 02:18 AM

when i 1st read this thread, tot bro discoverer really got some sense....after reading futher on, you really sound fishy.....sorry to say that but how come you never try anyone before but talk so much???? why dont you go try 1st then tell us how you feel again??? issit because you scare you will LUGI??? most of the bro here doesnt really agree of what you say but i think none have actually deducted your pts as there is no mention of it but instead of your pts going down, it shot up quite fast....are you really a clone??? if it true. what your hidden agenda???? what you trying to prove here???? please lar, if holiday period ,ake you so free & nothting to do, can go help out in NKF lar, dont come in here & say this, sat that but end up no action. dont be a TONA(talk oni, no action)....kekekekeke
happyme:D
So have you found anything fishy about me yet?As for the deduction of points,what the big deal all about,if kena deducted announce here like a small kid telling people or complaining that my points being deducted?Just because my points went up,i am a clone that actually up my own points?So it was a roller coaster ride this morning,just wondering did you happen to notice.It went down to as low as 4 points just for you to know.Maybe it sadden you to see my points in the positive region just because i voice out some opinions which may differ from you but all of us are entitle to our own opinion right:D

wankmehappy

06-01-2006, 03:51 AM

Could it be due to inflation or costs of doing business becomes higher or penalties higher hence the price increase.Maybe they can shed some light so that at least we can know.
why must the okts tell you all this? i think it there way of doing biz so if you like it, go for it....if you dont, just move on....sorry that im rude but what the fuck you actually want???? yes your pts goes up & down but do you know that ppls out there are still having biz while you replying all the post here??? if you really so free, why dont do something more meaningful than this...i really think it a waste of time....once again, im sorry....just my 0.002 cents worth of thinking....
happyme:D

bhoven

06-01-2006, 10:42 AM

.. my personal on-the-fence thots aloud is tat OKTs exists for the fact tat they may b able 2 bring in new blood which is not easily available or sometimes the WLs may not hv the means of getting into SG.

So if u find tat they r able 2 quench ur thirst n dun mind payin abit more than there shd not b much of a hoo ha.......but if u r able 2 ctrl ur urge or hv ur own means then jus go ahead w ur own lobangs:D

Nicely summed up brudder!

Good OKTs do provide a service. It's whether you want to use them on their T&C. However, when OKTs detract value by poaching a contact provided by samsters here, and then repackaging it at a higher price and limiting the service time that they are not welcome. . It is mere parasiting and not helping cheongsters here one bit....

Castrol

06-01-2006, 10:57 AM

Also waiting for those so called high moral samsters that posted here to have a look over there and post their comments

bro, i just read up the cheng song ling thread. in that thread, please go read post #21 by bro Redieye. do you know whats the big difference between he and you?

he responded directly when he reads something he didnt like. he doesnt need start a thread like you and asks for support.

okts dont just depend on SB samsters for business. just like we dont just depend on SB okts for girls.

okt business is what kind of business? do you really think the okts give a damn whether you leave the hotel room smiling or not? are you a regular okt customer? so you always bring many friends to give the okt business? have you met any SB okt before?

why dont you take it easy?

cheongkid

06-01-2006, 01:44 PM

Kudos to bro discoverer for starting this interesting debate here. Personally, I'm comfy with 150/90/2, although I would welcome a longer session. There were times when the so-called "models" were priced at $200 or even $250! Each OKT has his/her own pool of die-hard supporters, do you think by rallying the bros here to boycott them they will be out of business? As to the level of service, sometimes the girls might have mood swings, so there are bound to be some hits and misses.

If the girl & OKT provide good customer service, I would RTF and even recommend other bros to them. If service is lousy, come here "cry father cry mother" also no use, just don't patronise them again loh. You think the OKT will refund you?

BlackKnight

06-01-2006, 07:48 PM

hmmm............ i think each okt and their own pricing got their own niche of customers lor....

anyway, got sooooooo many okts now that customers can afford to go around to choose.

Montbank

06-01-2006, 09:19 PM

discoverer

06-01-2006, 09:38 PM

why must the okts tell you all this? i think it there way of doing biz so if you like it, go for it....if you dont, just move on....sorry that im rude but what the fuck you actually want???? yes your pts goes up & down but do you know that ppls out there are still having biz while you replying all the post here??? if you really so free, why dont do something more meaningful than this...i really think it a waste of time....once again, im sorry....just my 0.002 cents worth of thinking....
happyme:D
Yes,they don,t have to tell me or tell anybody how they run their business?So i can't express out my opinions and ask?Why do you only look at it that i am saying all okts and their girls sucks?Why do you keep on have that views? Why don't you talk about overprice girls with false stats and bad service.I have stress many times on this point also but you still keep on saying about all okts.Did i personally say so and so okts are bad or so and so girls are bad? No right?Just hoping that can rid the forum of unethical okts also can cause you so much problem,i also don't understand why?

You are the one who ask about my points in the first place and i reply to you and now you say about other things.

If you think i am so free and posting such meaningless topic,why did you come into this thread in the first place and post your reply.Yes if you really think it is a waste of time then i just say sorry for wasting your time here.i guess you have never posted any meaningless post out of your 1000+ posts here in sb.All your post are informative,contributive and useful towards the exchanges in sb.Please also look at yourself before you even start to judge others.I may be wrong but i don't go and put words into others mouth.

Again here i stress out that i am not saying all okts girls are overpriced and provide bad services.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 09:41 PM

Nicely summed up brudder!

Good OKTs do provide a service. It's whether you want to use them on their T&C. However, when OKTs detract value by poaching a contact provided by samsters here, and then repackaging it at a higher price and limiting the service time that they are not welcome. . It is mere parasiting and not helping cheongsters here one bit....
This is what should be weeded out from here but it seems like alot of those that reply can't seems to acknowledge that there are such people here.

poompoom

06-01-2006, 09:51 PM

aikoN79

06-01-2006, 09:56 PM

This is what should be weeded out from here but it seems like alot of those that reply can't seems to acknowledge that there are such people here.

I know of 1 .... heehee

But threadstarter, pls read my pt from a neutral view...

1) U say u never try OKT before, then how u know the gals are overprice and provide bad service ? How do u know the stats given by OKT are wrong ????

Just hoping that can rid the forum of unethical okts

That means u know some of the OKT are unethical ?? how u know if u haven call them up and try their gals ?? If yes, why not jus name them ??? Why are u afraid to name them ??? if i not happy with someone i will jus tell them straight in the face like wat i did to ... u know who.

U claim u never try, yet u say the gals are overprice and so and so....
U cant blame us for suspecting u have a hidden agenda mah... :D

We are all saying a point from a neutral view... yet u keep on accusing us of siding the OKTs.
....... sigh............

discoverer

06-01-2006, 09:59 PM

I don't think rallying against OKTs is a good issue here.

Why ? They are the ones who bring gals here for those who don't get away to overseas so easily.

150/90/2.. Let's break it down to 75/45/1. Hmmm... reminds me of a certain cat in GL.. Is it that much ? Some even go down to 130/90/2 so it really depends.

And if you think you are paying too much, give that gal a miss. Doing something like that would make it looks like you have a hidden agenda.
Yes i understand that as i have posted in my reply.Starting a thread like this invite many unhappiness but maybe the way i phrase it ,it came out the wrong way.We can't deny the fact that there are also overpriced girls or girls being marked up or girls that provide bad services.There are also random mudslinging going on in the forum but most of you guys chose to ignore it because it doesn't happen to you guys,so it very easy to say just move on.

We will never know if we are paying too much till we actually have tried the girls and by that time it will be too late so if stats of girl and service provided are misleading,what can we do?Just say suay and move on and don't patronise again.I think this is a very defeatist attitude we are having.You guys may think i have a hidden agenda or whatever but i honestly believe if one day when the stats and frs being provided are more accurate,those of you who have lambasted me will not thank me but quietly enjoyed it.i also don't need any thanks from anyone.

Just hope everyone search themselves deep down that they don't hope for better deals,good service girls,honest stats and frs for them to make a better choice before they part with their hard earn $.

I can see all replies aiming at me but there are also some other replies that agree about bad services,misleading stats but were not answered nor being rebutted like all my postings.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 10:06 PM

bro, i just read up the cheng song ling thread. in that thread, please go read post #21 by bro Redieye. do you know whats the big difference between he and you?

he responded directly when he reads something he didnt like. he doesnt need start a thread like you and asks for support.

okts dont just depend on SB samsters for business. just like we dont just depend on SB okts for girls.

okt business is what kind of business? do you really think the okts give a damn whether you leave the hotel room smiling or not? are you a regular okt customer? so you always bring many friends to give the okt business? have you met any SB okt before?

why dont you take it easy?
So after reading,the only inference you can make out of it is that the other samster went straight to the point and posted it out.Did it not occur to you that his reply was after my posting that i highlighted on,maybe we reply at the same time?You have no other comments on what was written by him as regards to his so called house rules that he mention after i highlighted it out?

As to what okts think,i really don't know because i base myself as a consumer though like i say i didn't patronise any of the okts girls.As a consumer,i can't try to get better deal for myself just like they would like to have higher profit margin themselves?

I am easy as i reason out everything in a sensible way,unlike some who leave undesirable comment like fxxk u.

discoverer

06-01-2006, 10:14 PM

discoverer

06-01-2006, 10:26 PM

I know of 1 .... heehee

But threadstarter, pls read my pt from a neutral view...

1) U say u never try OKT before, then how u know the gals are overprice and provide bad service ? How do u know the stats given by OKT are wrong ????

Just hoping that can rid the forum of unethical okts

That means u know some of the OKT are unethical ?? how u know if u haven call them up and try their gals ?? If yes, why not jus name them ??? Why are u afraid to name them ??? if i not happy with someone i will jus tell them straight in the face like wat i did to ... u know who.

U claim u never try, yet u say the gals are overprice and so and so....
U cant blame us for suspecting u have a hidden agenda mah... :D

We are all saying a point from a neutral view... yet u keep on accusing us of siding the OKTs.
....... sigh............
Where or what have you been doing all this while in sb?You didn't read of reports of overprice girls or girls that provide bad services.

Take it that i have a hidden agenda then.Let me tell you what is my hidden agenda.My hidden agenda is if ever there are changes for the better,only i qualify for this benefits but not to the rest.Does that make you happy?What kind of hidden agenda can there be for this kind of topic.is it only for my own benefits if changes for the better.if things still remain the same,what have i got to lose by bring up this topic except maybe to make more enemies but then this is cyber so it is ok.Simple thing like this you guys must think until like so sinister.Maybe i am an okt that want to control sb?Or maybe i another competitor out to ruin someone?Come on,i am just looking at this from a consumer point while they are looking at it from a business point,so what the big deal?Or maybe you can try to list out some other hidden reasons for me to start this post.

Ok,if you guys don't like it so much,i shall stop already.Maybe you guys can think about it but just ignore it as another samster ranting his head off here.:D

RogerChongZY

06-01-2006, 10:32 PM

Ok,if you guys don't like it so much,i shall stop already.Maybe you guys can think about it but just ignore it as another samster ranting his head off here.:D
So glad you stop. Waste of bandwidth. Discuss many times already on such issue. No price is the right price. Satisfied with the price, cheong. Not satisfied. Wait for the right price.:cool:

aikoN79

06-01-2006, 10:36 PM

Where or what have you been doing all this while in sb?You didn't read of reports of overprice girls or girls that provide bad services.

I know. Of course i know. Overprice, bad services, fake FRs, same gal different names, fake nationality etc etc. Everyone knows. No one voice out.
Is that wat u trying to say ???

I did. I did post, I did voice out. But in a ... way where it is not so direct ...... that will not attract any flaming. By the way, i see your points up very fast ~ :D

This is my thread (Pls read) : http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=46179

CNNcmg

06-01-2006, 10:43 PM

Hmm this debate still going on???

Randi_Candi

06-01-2006, 11:17 PM

Randi_Candi

06-01-2006, 11:21 PM

Nicely summed up brudder!

Good OKTs do provide a service. It's whether you want to use them on their T&C. However, when OKTs detract value by poaching a contact provided by samsters here, and then repackaging it at a higher price and limiting the service time that they are not welcome. . It is mere parasiting and not helping cheongsters here one bit....
Its jus my thots out aloud cos its a demand n supply thing.
if there is no demand, y wud any1 1 2 supply?

if u hv the goods i 1 n i m willing 2 pay, both parties transact
if u dun like my goods nor svcs? will u cum back 2 me?
:p

Microsoft

07-01-2006, 12:35 AM

if u hv the goods i 1 n i m willing 2 pay, both parties transact
if u dun like my goods nor svcs? will u cum back 2 me?

The problem begin when i die die 1 ur goods but die die not willing 2 pay ur price...Lidat how?? :D

dandan2512

07-01-2006, 01:10 AM

haizzz....y tis topic keep coming up?i oso c till i'm sianz leh...whether e okt gd or bad,price high or low,let e cheongsters decide whther they wan or not lah....:cool:

Hanxinco88

07-01-2006, 01:43 AM

?Come on,i am just looking at this from a consumer point while they are looking at it from a business point,so what the big deal?Or maybe you can try to list out some other hidden reasons for me to start this post.

Ok,if you guys don't like it so much,i shall stop already.Maybe you guys can think about it but just ignore it as another samster ranting his head off here.:D

Bro, I think you have vented your anger or shown your displease and its time to move on.
There is a saying "Once bitten, Twice shy"....samsters whom have been bitten once will probably not tried the OKT again...and "nature will take its course"....you are not a saint or God who can save the world, if you really think that some OKT are bad from posts you have read from the forum...why not get some time to compile it and start a thread to indicate which OKT is not doing the business right with relevant quoation or threads posted by samsters. This will be more helpful than debating here endlessly.

Issues like this are similiar to topics like religions...(no offence to anyone)...
Can you asked a Christian to believe in Mohamad or vice versa??? (just an example)

Move on bro.....prove your point by action. Start a thread to compile all the complains raise by bros on OKT they have patronise......"Action Speaks Louder than word"...the new thread itself will speak for you...rather than wasting your time explaining or debating the issue over and over again......

Just my liang mao qian

Cheers

poompoom

07-01-2006, 03:01 AM

I also know it won't end because everyone have their own opinions too.Maybe you can let Bustlover know that i didn't apply to join your group or try to see your pic link so Don't put words into my mouth.I don't think the pic are that terrific that i need to pcc after seeing the pic.Sorry i couldn't reply there to his post because have agreed to thaiboy request to leave that thread.Hope you can let him know:D
since u noe then y bother to explain n debute? big boss tell u nt to post, u listen. then we ask u move on n stop all tis, y u still debuting? can i say pls stop all tis. as far as i concern, u cheong liao, see hw issit then u come here give feedback, nt jus hide behind the computer n say tis, say tat. sorie to be rude but like mouth talk, lum par song. good use mah? pls pls, do ur pwn self a favour, do liao then say, dun come here KPKB. frankly, u urself dun even even noe who is who. who is bustlover? i seriously dun noe him. n even i u wan jion my group, im will decline u as i tik my gals nt up to ur standard. cant give u wat u wan. dun wan disappoint u. hahaha

thaiboy

07-01-2006, 10:14 AM

since u noe then y bother to explain n debute?

Tai Lo dont get so work up, bad for health, work on more income and get better bussiness ahead, Chinese New Year Coming, Lets open our hands and invite our Bro Doggie, Huat Arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)

Bro Discoverer, move on liao, let go for better seach, better pricing and svc as a Consumer, Stop replying it will never end, Happy Chinese New Year, WISH YOU HAPPY AHEAD AND EARN MORE $$$$$$$ ON YOUR FUTURE BONK.

To all Big Big Bros, OKTs, hope this is the last post of this thread, AV is laughing at us, let move on for better earning money Doggie Year, OKTs heng heng peng peng an an, Big Big Bros Dragon Horse Health, Tio 4D, TOTO, Win Horse and Soccer, GOOD DOGGIE YEAR AHEAD, HUAT ARHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH

TOLONG , PLEASE, KROP KOON, XIA XIA,BOTH HANDS UP, BOTH LEGS DOWN, LAST POST OF THIS THREAD...........:cool:

Randi_Candi

07-01-2006, 11:33 AM

The problem begin when i die die 1 ur goods but die die not willing 2 pay ur price...Lidat how?? :D
then i hv 2 die die ask u go n pcc lor;)

angie

18-01-2006, 07:42 AM

sorie tat i have to reply at tis thread again as earlier on i say i wont reply anymore. i tik bro discoverer u have already voice out ur pts of view. there is no more need to futher debute as tis wont bring to an end. so wat if bros agreed n so wat they dont? bros out there if u happen to read tis....pls dun reply to tis thread anymore if u dun agreed bec it will give chance to bro discoverer to debute again. bros tat agreed wif bro discoverer, pls contiune to post n share ur view.

As a new bird i think that bro discoverer if u think that its too exp then u can find your own way or lobang but maybe by posting u may feel that u will get support from fellow bros. Anyway u are free to post. Human right wat, right?

But big boss poompoom, why are u getting so heat up. Why? bkk shop got no biz or u dint get a gd f...k frm ur whatever. U say that u will not reply earlier but now u reply, it shows that u cannot control yourself. everytime saying ha ha ha. u think it is funny? or are u trying to be funny? go and take care of your shop in thailand la. why bother? got younger bro in singapore but scared when people review the truth.hahaha just a simple thing like that u also cannot control, how u do big biz? we'll see how u go along.hahaha

Oh sorry, new bird should not meddle with others biz. hahahha