Fall into Relationship with a China FL

[RelaFL]

Hi All Bro,

I need some advise here.

I'm in the 30+, married no children wife relationship turn bad already.

Met an China FL 20yr . not the first FL i met, but this FL i met instantly fall for her, i don't understand why also, i know it is stupid really can't help it.

during her stay in sg 1 month, i book her for almost 15days. sometimes does not even do FJ or anything just chit chat.

now she back in china, and i flew to china to find her, now she regard me as his bf and i have told he to quit doing this kind of job, but she told me she have to do cause she has bought a house and need to pay month about 2k sgd. which i still dunno truth or lies.

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.

we still msg each other everyday. i was trying to get her out of this job.

maybe i'm blind but i can't help it. i also dunno wat to do next.

[hamsapkwai]

so simple dump your wife and go marry her :p

[jackson555]

concoct a lie lor, say you want to marry her, meet want to meet your parents etc and see her reaction. ask her to move to singapore.
otherwise just break up. think carefully of what you want

and don't be a fool la, anyone with money FL will just regard them as bf.

[charming888]

爱情的力量，follow by 钱的力量。:p:p:p

[a2014]

now she back in china, and i flew to china to find her, now she regard me as his bf and i have told he to quit doing this kind of job, but she told me she have to do cause she has bought a house and need to pay month about 2k sgd. which i still dunno truth or lies.

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.

we still msg each other everyday. i was trying to get her out of this job.

maybe i'm blind but i can't help it. i also dunno wat to do next.
Bro, you go to china got see the house or not. She ask for S$2K come to 10K in china currency per month, she very rich already.

Of course you go there small money she pay. Later ask you for 2K per month. Later call you bf so you head big big thinking is true then pay.

Not sure she did ask others like yourself that she knew to go visit and pay or not. Indeed good business for her.

Talk about converting her, at her age, not possible, she is a cheongster of her own in her own world. Maybe another 20 years down the road she may change her mind. You want to wait, by then you may bleed to death already.

Take Care

[damong777]

Bro ask urself how much you know about her? What she does for living in china?

Dun get KC in so fast...ask urself why u like or love her? R u prepared to get divorced? Are u prepared for a divorce? It is not so simple a divorce in Singapore. Think carefully; dun use little head to think.

Furthermore she in china and u in sg, are u sure u r the only one?,too many such stories around....do a search before making up your mind

Like what h88 said, if a fl can be trusted, pigs can fly up tree.

[devilcheong]

Bro ask urself how much you know about her? What she does for living in china?

Dun get KC in so fast...ask urself why u like or love her? R u prepared to get divorced? Are u prepared for a divorce? It is not so simple a divorce in Singapore. Think carefully; dun use little head to think.

Furthermore she in china and u in sg, are u sure u r the only one?,too many such stories around....do a search before making up your mind

Like what h88 said, if a fl can be trusted, pigs can fly up tree.

Agrees with Bro D777 says...
Go to study the below links 1st before writing anything else in this forum or else alot of repeated mistakes and regrets all started of being kena KCed... :cool:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=116417

[simple2kee]

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.


have you heard of 放长线 钓大鱼?
it is LUST & not LOVE. skip her & move on

[dungyeu]

Not another case :eek:

TS you scroll through SBF, you will see tons of stories like yours. What happen in the end? I think we all know :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Never trust a WL, just fuck and fuck off, it might be hard to break up with the WL right now, but you still gotta do it.

A WL is a WL, period. For fucking and not for loving. (dosent matter whether she got take money from you or not)

[korean]

what u gonna do with ur marriage? divorce? patch up? bo chap?

[demonhunter]

At 20 yrs of age , she became a FL !

When she reach 30 yrs old , she would be reading Lianhe Wanbao while you are furiously banging her ....:eek:

[torrentman123]

Hi All Bro,

I need some advise here.

I'm in the 30+, married no children wife relationship turn bad already.

Met an China FL 20yr . not the first FL i met, but this FL i met instantly fall for her, i don't understand why also, i know it is stupid really can't help it.

during her stay in sg 1 month, i book her for almost 15days. sometimes does not even do FJ or anything just chit chat.

now she back in china, and i flew to china to find her, now she regard me as his bf and i have told he to quit doing this kind of job, but she told me she have to do cause she has bought a house and need to pay month about 2k sgd. which i still dunno truth or lies.

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.

we still msg each other everyday. i was trying to get her out of this job.

maybe i'm blind but i can't help it. i also dunno wat to do next.


bro my advice.

Shoot raw inside her a few times and see what she say.
If she is okay, means she is serious about you.

[saabking]

bro my advice.

Shoot raw inside her a few times and see what she say.
If she is okay, means she is serious about you.

I don't think raw is a good measure ley
Sh can let u raw but not serious about u too

[stillgottheblue]

bro my advice.

Shoot raw inside her a few times and see what she say.
If she is okay, means she is serious about you.

This is so untrue.

[maxsee]

For me I feels that if a woman is willing to sell her body for $$$...there is simply no love inside her left....just my 2 cents worth....

If I were you, I would just find a decent woman and divorce the current wife if the marriage is really beyond redemption...else if the marriage can still be salvage just work on getting ur marriage back to the pink of health again.....:D:D:D

[sunhuan-con]

Guess now u in honeymoon period with her..love is blind ..guess u really lack of love. Your marriage has no love. Enjoy this honeymoon period with the fl. Dont let your small head in control. You will face the reality when u wakes up from the dream. Dont make yourself suffer.

[larue]

Doesn't matter whether it's true or false, it's all still a black hole. I have my own story about something like this from about 2-3 years ago somewhere in the back pages of this forum now.

I never followed it up, but in the end I changed my number and forgot about her. Actually I have never forgotten about her, but I make sure to remember the futility of it all. It was never going to go anywhere except end badly if it continued.

Maybe it's true that she loves you (she's 20 years old so frankly.....), but it can come to no good end. I still think maybe that girl loved me, which is true since Chinese women tie love to material provision. Better than pretending that their love for you is unconditional really, because there's really no such thing (except for parents towards their children).

Anyway, there comes a point where one realizes no good can possibly come out of dragging it on.

I know how hard it is to see her as anything other than your only route to happiness when everything else feels so fucking shitty. But you are right, it is blindness that leads you down that path, but knowing and feeling it with conviction are totally different things.

You can't just forget about her of course or simply think happy thoughts, because these things are not for most people, a switch you can turn on or off.

You have to have your mind taken off her and leave no time to feel unhappy, I bet you spend a lot of time moping, it's understandable. Just also understand asap that keeping this up goes nowhere.

Do something that makes you busy, and I mean busy. Something that keeps you busy doing something for YOURSELF, not anyone or everyone else.

Start a business of some sort, a course, or something else that demands your full attention for an extended period. Throw yourself into whatever project is happening at work to secure that promotion, or if you're doing some shitty thing like customer service, go back and examine option 1 or 2.

You will resist forgetting her of course, but that pain associated with being with her, yet also not with her, will disappear when you are busy doing something really meaningful to YOURSELF.

Don't worry about whether your wife is happy, the girl is happy, or anyone else is fucking happy at what you decide to do for yourself.

Change your phone number if you can (I did), delete permanently all ways to contact her (I didn't ha ha, but I never tried to contact her again after I changed my number).

The clouds will clear. Things everywhere won't look as dark as they do now, really.

Don't think the girl needs you, that you are her knight in shining armor. Perhaps you can be, but she's young, experienced (for sure, without judging) and most certainly hardened.

She will survive, you don't have to worry about that if it worries you, which it probably does.

[ameth]

This is not true ya!

bro my advice.

Shoot raw inside her a few times and see what she say.
If she is okay, means she is serious about you.

[lovingyou]

Hi All Bro,

I need some advise here.

I'm in the 30+, married no children wife relationship turn bad already.

Why don't you salvage your marriage ?

Met an China FL 20yr . not the first FL i met, but this FL i met instantly fall for her, i don't understand why also, i know it is stupid really can't help it.

only a fool "really can't help it"

during her stay in sg 1 month, i book her for almost 15days. sometimes does not even do FJ or anything just chit chat.
so free go see that mei mei, why don't you spend more time reading Sammyboy forums. there are many interesting write out and feedback from samsters.
then you will not be coming here like a lost soul


now she back in china, and i flew to china to find her, now she regard me as his bf and i have told he to quit doing this kind of job, but she told me she have to do cause she has bought a house and need to pay month about 2k sgd. which i still dunno truth or lies.

10,000 rmb monthly instalment. 1001% a lie.

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.
why ask you for money when can get 10,000 times more in return from fool


we still msg each other everyday. i was trying to get her out of this job.
want to be another fool

maybe i'm blind but i can't help it. i also dunno wat to do next.

really wish you are blind, then you will not know mei mei :D:D

[archer69]

Sigh never ending story.
It is really difficult to handle once
You are in this situation.

It happened to me also, the only way out
Is to change your mindset.
Just think it's all just money transaction.

[sta1100]

Hi All Bro,

I need some advise here.

I'm in the 30+, married no children wife relationship turn bad already.

Met an China FL 20yr . not the first FL i met, but this FL i met instantly fall for her, i don't understand why also, i know it is stupid really can't help it.

during her stay in sg 1 month, i book her for almost 15days. sometimes does not even do FJ or anything just chit chat.

now she back in china, and i flew to china to find her, now she regard me as his bf and i have told he to quit doing this kind of job, but she told me she have to do cause she has bought a house and need to pay month about 2k sgd. which i still dunno truth or lies.

she never ask money from me, even i offer my help. during my trip to china she pays for everything we eat, taxi and etc, except hotel i pay.

we still msg each other everyday. i was trying to get her out of this job.

maybe i'm blind but i can't help it. i also dunno wat to do next.

How much do you about her , have she bring you to see her parents, do you want to married a hooker and and move on, sure she goes for love not money. Think carefully it your life don't screw it up

[damong777]

I don't think raw is a good measure ley
Sh can let u raw but not serious about u too

Technically allowing u raw also does not mean she loves u...she can also allow other to do the same...

[owen10]

Dear TS, I think u should try to salvage yr r'ship with yr wifey instead of falling further into the pitfall. i love PRCs too, i've also fallen in love with PRCs but i am sceptical if this is true love.

Paying for meals n taxi is nothing lah. guess yr 1 session with her in S'pore would be enuff to cover for a few days of those expenses. U oredi said she has a house to pay a S$2k monthly instalment. if she can get a spore bf/husband who earn say 5k to help her service the 2k instalment, why not? it may not be a fantastic catch but it's still a very good catch. I juz feel it might be one of those mind games to trick u.

of cos the final decision lies with u. we are not here to talk bad abt PRCs but there are far too many true stories to justify. take care n make a wise decision bro! :)

[ColdBlood99]

Please check if she have any armpit hair, if she have I urge you end this relationship. :p

[Yakuza]

Please check if she have any armpit hair, if she have I urge you end this relationship. :p
Not forgetting the overgrown bushes down south ..:D

[Yakuza]

Read this ... very impt ..
Only lunatics and really dumb people marry FLs.

[Yakuza]

Another good guide for ur info ...

Here's one http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?p=6782617&highlight=#post6782617

There are many similar stories scattered all over the forum. Do a search.

[owen10]

Doesn't matter whether it's true or false, it's all still a black hole. I have my own story about something like this from about 2-3 years ago somewhere in the back pages of this forum meaningful to YOURSELF.
..... She will survive, you don't have to worry about that if it worries you, which it probably does.

I skipped the other posts after reading TS'.
Now reading back, think this post has the best piece of advice.
Very well written post which truly reflects the feelings of someone who really been there, done that n gone thru a lot of storms.
It sure takes a lot of discipline n courage to cut off ties with someone u love (maybe even more than yr gf/wife) n to forget her forever.
I can feel both yr pain.

[conquer]

Keep on enjoy your romance. But please don't dry up your entire saving and divorce your wife can already.

Good luck, my friend. :):):)

[conquer]

Same old story keeps repeating itself... It doesn't matter how it starts, it always ends up the same.

[owen10]

Same old story keeps repeating itself... It doesn't matter how it starts, it always ends up the same.

Well, such stories will be never ending. They will repeat again n again, decades over decades, well into the next generations. Men are blinded by love. They know the possible consequences but yet still want to try. Of cos not all are lost causes. There could be the occasional odd success story. :)

[loneyheart]

So many lonely married SG men targeted by FT
So TS what u want divorce yr wife n split half of what u hv to her n marry yr PRC FL ??

What is monthly 2k to her if she work as FL .... $100 X 10 customers per day X 25 days after code red = 25k per month tats wat she make
U think u can maintain her ?? Are u just a working class ??

Even know abt FLs bao by SG man 20k 30k per month still moonlighting behind his back

If she still doing FL can u not thinking abt how many man she entertain per day
How will u feel when u read bros FRs abt how good she is ??

Bros here n me IMHO just giving u references of what we see n hear n u never b t last ... so r u game for it ?? ... The choice is yours

[4getful]

Below r juz what i think only. I think TS must have married a sg princess, only expect the men to please her to make her happy n to know when she is happy when she is not happy. So, with all these princess attitude, it makes TS fall into the kc trap when the woman he met is a woman he likes deep inside his heart.

To be frank, if a wife has no intent to go through hardship tgt with the husband, thinking her attitude is normal n what a woman should be doing, cos there is a wc to protect them, then it is real hard to go on with the marriage. But still, gg for the FL might not lead TS to a happy ending, cos she might be juz only a substitute for what TS longing for. So, end up TS is screwed!

[Castrol]

maybe the ts will give a damn after 10 pages :D

[korean]

This thread power. Ts did his first post and mia, and the thread extends to page 3 now. No head no tail so many heros here jump into conclusion. :D

[porscheclub]

20yrs old girl do FL & owns her own property. She's way above anyone of us here.

Salute!

[owen10]

20yrs old girl do FL & owns her own property. She's way above anyone of us here.

Salute!

No need to salute.
I guess many of the FLs are better than the samsters here.
Their 3 months taking here could be what samsters take 3 years to save up.
The ultimate aim of many FLs here is to save up n buy a property in China, which is not cheap these days. Hearsay, even a small 2 room condo unit in city area in even a small province could set u off ~sgd200k. But if she's contented with living in the countryside, less than sgd100k us enough to build a big house.

[conquer]

Well, such stories will be never ending. They will repeat again n again, decades over decades, well into the next generations. Men are blinded by love. They know the possible consequences but yet still want to try. Of cos not all are lost causes. There could be the occasional odd success story. :)

There were emperors lost their entire kingdoms because of women, also some died because of STD. I guess losing few hundred thousands of SGD to an PRC whore is just a flee bite...

Those who will get burnt are gonna get burnt eventually. :)

20yrs old girl do FL & owns her own property. She's way above anyone of us here.

Salute!

Earning 20K-30K SGD is so common for an angpai. Talking about getting a PhD, a professional degree, a higher post... Sorry my friend, they are nothing compared to a cheebye. :(

[loveless1]

嫁鸡随鸡，嫁狗随狗。如你真的要和她在一起，身为女人的她应该以前提为主。那么她应该放弃她现 有的 ”工作“ 而嫁鸡随鸡。

If it is due to our currency being stronger than China's which is no doubt about it, then the power of money is indeed stronger than love. Do not forget that there are differences to how we are being raised up and received education. All these play a part.

If things can be resolved by money, it is the most easiest problem, if it is a problem at all in the first place.

You are a guy and it is only right the PRC lady follow you to where you want to go. MCP or otherwise, it is our call as a guy to lead. Ask her to give up her life in China (not renounce citizenship yet) and ask her to move here, find a proper job (provided she has a good educational background) and get to know her better as a normal person with a normal risk job.

You do not need good luck, you need to be rational with a good common sense.

[a2014]

This thread power. Ts did his first post and mia, and the thread extends to page 3 now. No head no tail so many heros here jump into conclusion. :D
Hahaha, most hero only voice out once and also mia. I think the original expectation is to generate for and against kind of discussion but ended up all hero butter him up properly no argument. Sure mia wat. Story too common already liao. :D

[Greendevil]

TS did you know that China housing loan is very different from SG.If i not wrong, you got to pay 70% and can only take few years loan. The figure is somewhere there, cos cant really remember the figure. So come to think of it she not that poor and also how can she take loan. lot of loopholes. usually girls in their line pay one shot onewhen they earn enuf and retire.

[porscheclub]

No need to salute.
I guess many of the FLs are better than the samsters here.
Their 3 months taking here could be what samsters take 3 years to save up.
The ultimate aim of many FLs here is to save up n buy a property in China, which is not cheap these days. Hearsay, even a small 2 room condo unit in city area in even a small province could set u off ~sgd200k. But if she's contented with living in the countryside, less than sgd100k us enough to build a big house.


Earning 20K-30K SGD is so common for an angpai. Talking about getting a PhD, a professional degree, a higher post... Sorry my friend, they are nothing compared to a cheebye. :(

Precisely. Which one of you bought your own property at 20yrs old with your own earnings? Raise your hand please?

Let's not compare currency & country otherwise it's an endless debate. Even if a Sg gal who goes to Dubai or London to do FL can she afford her own property here at 20yrs old?

TS, I'm afraid this young girl's life experience & "wisdom" is beyond you so move along now. Singapore women are easier to handle.

[wantanabee]

dear TS!! simply think;

whatever she is saying/doing with/to you,
she is doing it with 10 other guys.

You can see it now?

[RelaFL]

Thanks all to bro out there on your advise.

I already know reply i will get off you guys.
I'm trying hard to forget her. And as for my marriage it should be a goner. There is a long story behind it which i do not wish to tell.

[larue]

Do it bro. Don't look back.

She (or women) can make you happy for 5 minutes, a few days or even a few years, but absolutely no one can make you truly happy about yourself, except you yourself. Just like no one can make you feel bad unless you allow them to. Go out and start doing something for yourself.

Don't know wife story, no comment. Just remember that things are never as bad as they look, you just need to find a way out.

[fictionman]

I used to frequent a Msian gal wkin in BHC...At least twice a mth for 1 year...i went back to her coz her svc is great...Fantastic sex partner which my wife couldnt fullfill my fantasies...Yes its bcoz of SEX...She treats me well...One fine day she treats me to dinner...$100++...Not bad i thght...Mayb can fuck her outside of her wkplc...Then the bombshell...Msg me wanting to borrow $1.5k...I didnt reply & few hrs later called me..Told her straight "NO MONEY"...Straight away set my iphone to block her number fm calling or msg me...

My point is mayb like me TS finds the prc good in bed & "listens to him"...But its all a trap to fatten her bank account...Anyway, why would a guy wats to hv a relationship wz a WL who hv been fucked by countless guys for $$$...Would you intro her to ur frens & family as a goody goody gal??

[unsung80]

bro, sort out your own situation first, especially you and your wife. There are many good advice given by the bros here. Wish you all the best.

[cktfrancis]

one sentence.....................make hay while the sunshines. enjoy ur trip to troubleland

[S'pore Ah Boy]

I used to frequent a Msian gal wkin in BHC...At least twice a mth for 1 year...i went back to her coz her svc is great...Fantastic sex partner which my wife couldnt fullfill my fantasies...Yes its bcoz of SEX...She treats me well...One fine day she treats me to dinner...$100++...Not bad i thght...Mayb can fuck her outside of her wkplc...Then the bombshell...Msg me wanting to borrow $1.5k...I didnt reply & few hrs later called me..Told her straight "NO MONEY"...Straight away set my iphone to block her number fm calling or msg me...

My point is mayb like me TS finds the prc good in bed & "listens to him"...But its all a trap to fatten her bank account...Anyway, why would a guy wats to hv a relationship wz a WL who hv been fucked by countless guys for $$$...Would you intro her to ur frens & family as a goody goody gal??

Wah bro, you "turn face" damn fast !!
clap clap
think the wl didn't even know wat happened alrdy kenna blocked by u.

[porscheclub]

Then the bombshell...Msg me wanting to borrow $1.5k...I didnt reply & few hrs later called me..Told her straight "NO MONEY"...Straight away set my iphone to block her number fm calling or msg me...

没良心的 :D Bro, $1500 can give but ask her to pay back in kind eg. public sex, car sex, long weekend extravaganza or join orgy! :p

Roll the $ for happiness :o

[mybruce]

The devil is in the details. Think carefully whatever she has told you, does it all make sense? 2k sgd equivalent housing loan per month??!! That's way too high standard in Chinese property market. Common Chinese don't even earn 1k a month... Bells ringing!!!

[Victoryyy]

Many good advice in this forum.

Bro TS, think about it, FL are making much more than 2k SGD/mth...

Very hard to turn them around especially if they are this young, as they could be rolling in 20-30k SGD/mth (if they hardworking la...)

SO even if you give the SGD2k/mth ...it's not enough bro.

Go invest in yourself bro.
2k/mth u can enjoy a lot or just do dollar cost averaging investment, you would be a happier man in time to come.

[Psam]

Hiaz. I will keep it simple. My friend, quit his job, left his wife, sold his flat, move to china with China gf and all his savings, 3 months later, call asking for loan, 6 months later, back to square 1, working in Singapore. though he is my friend, I have to say the wife damn stupid to take him back, now livng in a small HDB paid by his wife portion of the sale. And no, I did not loan him any money. Funny thing is he said similar things, "gf never ask for money, this must be real love". As friends we already gave him advise but he refuse to listen, to him we were all jealous.

[jnudes]

The odds of success with a China FL are only 1% as 99% of them love money. Does not matter they are from city, countryside or town, they are all the same.
The 1% that I am mentioning are those willing to lead a normal life with a low salary and willing to face hardship with the men they married.

I had been in that situation before with a PRC lady and luckily reading SBF thread help my emotions under control. They are far more experienced on how to handle a man than us. That's the fact as all of their customers are males from late teens to early fifties.

Can't beat the KC trap just change number as one bro had mentioned earlier and forgot her slowly although it will take longer period. Get yourself busy everyday with activities and eventually you will forget her.

[zacdegress]

time to really dig in and think about it.

Is it for your money or was it love? I dont believe in the latter for this case

[Xyberduke]

The high installment for apartment is true.

In China, the developers are in cahoots to raise the prices of housing in the simplest ways, by spreading rumours that housing prices are increasing and becoming unaffordable. Therefore, there is a mad rush to buy houses and you will see parents buying for their children and even grand children in fear that they would not be able to afford one later when they get married. You will see a lot of empty houses, and also the lower income group struggling to pay for one or could only afford to rent one.

For the lower income group, they have no choice but to go overseas to serve as FL or in KTV for the fast income. Once they have paid off the loan and accumulated some savings, they will return to China to start their own business, big or small.

[Xyberduke]

Now, it's a tradition that the host pays for everything for his/her guest including hotel stays in China. i.e. Wedding, for guests coming from another city, the wedding couple for pay for all accomodation expenses and sometimes even the travel expenses. So for her to pay for your expenses is nothing special.


I can believe that she is speaking the truth.

I had several PRC girlfriends that never asked for a single cent from me in the past.

[magicafe]

lol..bros,
fl no matter what nationalities are similiar. the sad part is we the men cannot part or forget their sweetness and tenderness. men are usually blinded if fl provide good services and caring attitute. their smiles and the sex part are usually the cause of disaster. many man including me tend to part ways with fl or wl after sometime when moneytalk is on the way. but, we kept thinking of their sex part and so kiasu thAT SHE IS OR WILL FUCK BY OTHERS IF WE DO NOT FULFIL THEIR NEEDS. as time goes by, we are calculating how much we have spend for them and it is not worthwhile to end the relationship becos we are too kiasu again to forget what we have spent. the only way to get out is the kiasu part have to forget. engaged our heart with a HATE thing in mind to end the relation. otherwise, when we drian up our savings, it is still the same story that we have to go thru heartache and our savings. it is a plus that fl or wl have bad attitute or good service that we pay and fuck and leave. otherwise we just sit in the love hole and still paying. in the end of the story, we have with few love hole instead of we can enjoy many love hole for what we paid. have a nice day.

[sammyboyfor]

lol..bros,
fl no matter what nationalities are similiar. the sad part is we the men cannot part or forget their sweetness and tenderness. men are usually blinded if fl provide good services and caring attitute.

Just treat a good fuck with a whore the same way you'd have a good cup of coffee.

You don't have to marry the coffee shop owner to enjoy good coffee so why all this dumb talk about marrying a whore??? :p

[Bris7]

For me I feels that if a woman is willing to sell her body for $$$...there is simply no love inside her left....just my 2 cents worth....

If I were you, I would just find a decent woman and divorce the current wife if the marriage is really beyond redemption...else if the marriage can still be salvage just work on getting ur marriage back to the pink of health again.....:D:D:D


I have to agree with maxsee.
Like me, have a child, so lan lan must continue with the marriage. You are only 30, still young, can try again with another woman.

[Rocode]

Afternoon

My Advise?

Don't Fall Into The Trap.

Once U Marry Her And Apply Citizenship..

I Believe That All U Own Becomes What She Owns.

So This is The formula.

U Divorce Ur Current Wife. U Lose Half Your Soul/Assets.

Get Married To The PRC(Or Whatever Race/ Country).

Then She Divorces You. U Lose Another Half Of Your Soul/Assets.

Then What Bro?

Law Is law. Be Wise. Sometimes We Must Shut Off The Heart.

Best Regards
Rocode.

[zan888]

Hi All Bro,

I need some advise here.

I'm in the 30+, married no children wife relationship turn bad already.

Met an China FL 20yr . not the first FL i met, but this FL i met instantly fall for her, i don't understand why also, i know it is stupid really can't help it.



AT least at the back of your mind you know it is stupid.

Acknowledgement is the first step to recovery.

You want to really fuck up your life? Then go ahead and get involved with this FL, otherwise just find other FL to bang till your brain can come to its senses.

Not to say it impossible to find honest FL, its possible but like all woman your must test and test till you can find one that passes the test. Many of them are real pro in laying the long line, meaning appearing to be good or treat you special. OMG dunno who many specials they have..more than a truck load to dish out.

So whether it is a FL lady or normal lady, if you don't wish to fuck up your life you need to test, double test, confirm double confirm, even then some can change..so best thing is just be single la.

Don't escalate a commercial transaction into something that fucks up your life.

[Redoxan]

I think you should not fall for her...just play along the KC game.
Why make yourself miserable?

[chanster]

Faster , break up with your wife and be with her
Where to find such a lovely responsible china girl that will pay your expenses in china ! Don't regret , girls dont like to wait :)

[kt88_2]

I still don understand .why guys still get con n trap by prcs again.so many examples alresdy n still so many blind ppl.

[sunhuan-con]

I still don understand .why guys still get con n trap by prcs again.so many examples alresdy n still so many blind ppl.

Love is blind...man use small head to think

[edmwclone]

It is never easy to deal with a GF (potential wife) of other nationality. There are a list of things that you may overlook in the beginning stages. Customs, habits, values in life are just a number of factors. What's more this lady that we are talking about is a FL/WL. Are you ready to face your friends/relatives/colleagues in future if you two eventually hooks up? There is always this little hero inside guys who wants to save a damsel in distress and it is pretty obvious this little hero inside you is at its peak. Sort out the issues with your wife first. I do not know the situation, however I feel that even if things do not work out, you should never find a FL/WL as a partner (unless just a sex partner).

[RelaFL]

Kinda in too deep.

[sammyboyfor]

Kinda in too deep.

You obviously have no willpower. Your life is fucked. Don't say you have not been warned.

In a few year's time, you'll be dead broke and abandoned. :rolleyes:

[Captainoceania77]

you obviously have no willpower. Your life is fucked. Don't say you have not been warned.

In a few year's time, you'll be dead broke and abandoned. :rolleyes:

不听老人言，吃亏在眼前

[sammyboyfor]

不听老人言，吃亏在眼前

Some things never change. :p

[Yakuza_AV]

You obviously have no willpower. Your life is fucked. Don't say you have not been warned.

In a few year's time, you'll be dead broke and abandoned. :rolleyes:

Indeed and don't even need few years.

[shazai]

Take care of your wallet first , for now if you want just carry on with relationship but always remember your hard earn money

[MichaelWinn]

Indeed and don't even need few years.

some skilful prcs use few months or even few weeks to wipe you out:eek:
if she know you are over 55 and have cpf golden egg even easier for her
she will let you screw her everynite maybe even raw;)
she will blowjob you 3 times a day:p
BUT WHEN YOUR MONEY HAS FINISHED AND YOU ARE DEAD BROKE
she will say goodbye to you,fly back to china and share your hard earned money
with her husband in china:rolleyes:
dun say we never warn you

[cocky1234]

https://m.facebook.com/evangelinemadoka?fref=ts

how bout you find this gall. better than PRC and she is Malaysian.

[HCKing]

Thanks all to bro out there on your advise.

I already know reply i will get off you guys.
I'm trying hard to forget her. And as for my marriage it should be a goner. There is a long story behind it which i do not wish to tell.

u r seeking solace with her so as to escape from yr marriage problems. this is not the way a mature adult shld act. if u do so u will only jump from one shit hole to another larger shit hole. out of a 100 FL surely u will get to meet 1 or 2 which matches yr dream date but don't forget they are not here to go steady with u most of them actually oredi have husbands or bf back home.

[sammyboyfor]

most of them actually oredi have husbands or bf back home.

.... plus another 10 or so carrot heads in Singapore. :D

[kt88_2]

some skilful prcs use few months or even few weeks to wipe you out:eek:
if she know you are over 55 and have cpf golden egg even easier for her
she will let you screw her everynite maybe even raw;)
she will blowjob you 3 times a day:p
BUT WHEN YOUR MONEY HAS FINISHED AND YOU ARE DEAD BROKE
she will say goodbye to you,fly back to china and share your hard earned money
with her husband in china:rolleyes:
dun say we never warn you

Even my colleagues also kana con.Even my friend married a prc, in the end the proc n my friend con my group of friends then overnight leave singapore with afew hundreds thousands.sad love is blind.

[a2014]

most of them actually oredi have husbands or bf back home.
This one I agree with both hand up. I have encounter this before, they dare to ask you to go to their home with man walking around in underwear, still dare to argue is good friends only.

You don't belief if you don't see it. Wait till you encounter it then you will know, what's all about.:eek:

[kt88_2]

This one I agree with both hand up. I have encounter this before, they dare to ask you to go to their home with man walking around in underwear, still dare to argue is good friends only.

You don't belief if you don't see it. Wait till you encounter it then you will know, what's all about.:eek:

10 years ago , i am still single, date a prc colleague, all was ok , till 1 time in a taxi, her phone keep ringing but she don pick up and change to vibration mode.I ask her who is that n she KC me say wrong number, after that I keep track n found that she had a prc bf and worse is they r panning marriage stage.In the end , i jus ignore her cos i know i am a carrot.Later on , she n that guy got a kid n they left sg because that guy got problem renewing his permit to work.thats life....:rolleyes:

[maxsee]

I do believes that usually the good ones will stay in their own country bah....:D:D:D

[Ho-Lee]

I do believes that usually the good ones will stay in their own country bah....:D:D:D



不是猛龙不过江...........same applies to vbs , prc , thai etc....

[a2014]

I do believes that usually the good ones will stay in their own country bah....:D:D:D
Agree, however it all depends. It better to get from the source but there are also wrong one at source too.

I knew someone who is dying to get married cannot find one at here so go to the source at PRC. Maybe at the village can get good one. You know what happened. The lady ask him to throw a dinner for some of her friends and at the dinner take out his wallet and start pulling out cash in his wallet and start to give away happily to all her friends. He tried to stop her but got scolding in front of all her friends.

Very sad so he came back. Sometime you really don't know what will happen when you are in an unknown ground.:confused:

[MichaelWinn]

Agree, however it all depends. It better to get from the source but there are also wrong one at source too.

I knew someone who is dying to get married cannot find one at here so go to the source at PRC. Maybe at the village can get good one. You know what happened. The lady ask him to throw a dinner for some of her friends and at the dinner take out his wallet and start pulling out cash in his wallet and start to give away happily to all her friends. He tried to stop her but got scolding in front of all her friends.

Very sad so he came back. Sometime you really don't know what will happen when you are in an unknown ground.:confused:

that is their prc culture, thanks for sharing
china women are quite demanding and materialistic
your friend should have try for a burmese bride or cambodian bride instead

[TheBoneYard]

This one I agree with both hand up. I have encounter this before, they dare to ask you to go to their home with man walking around in underwear, still dare to argue is good friends only.


Very true indeed bro

[Plaedes]

If, my post is approved by the moderators, please take a minute to read it.

[MichaelWinn]

I do believes that usually the good ones will stay in their own country bah....:D:D:D

true well said about 95 per cent of prc women who are overseas are in the vice trade, only a small percentage who venture overseas are actually in decent jobs
the other 95 per cent selling pussy ;)

[a2014]

true well said about 95 per cent of prc women who are overseas are in the vice trade, only a small percentage who venture overseas are actually in decent jobs
the other 95 per cent selling pussy ;)Very true, with the exchange rate and the every up inflation (even in this trade has inflation). This tiny piece of land become their gold mine. They can spread their legs here as wide as they want and back home still consider a virgin. This is why when a person is struggling to survive, anything can do, just don't do it in your house. Everywhere the same, not only PRC.

[datou]

TS did you know that China housing loan is very different from SG.If i not wrong, you got to pay 70% and can only take few years loan. The figure is somewhere there, cos cant really remember the figure.

If not sure don't anyhow say cause misunderstanding.
I hv been living in China for past 10years.
Abt 20~30% down payment n 20years loan is normal.

[owen10]

TS did you know that China housing loan is very different from SG.If i not wrong, you got to pay 70% and can only take few years loan. The figure is somewhere there, cos cant really remember the figure. So come to think of it she not that poor and also how can she take loan. lot of loopholes. usually girls in their line pay one shot onewhen they earn enuf and retire.

Yes if I didn't hear wrongly fr my masseur only 30% loan with a bank and with a specific short repayment period. So we Sporeans should count ourselves lucky to be able to buy a heavily subsidized hdb and banks are willing to grant us a high loan quantum. Not supporting our garment here with my statement but juz stating a fact many Sporeans juz take for granted.

The odds of success with a China FL are only 1% as 99% of them love money. Does not matter they are from city, countryside or town, they are all the same.
The 1% that I am mentioning are those willing to lead a normal life with a low salary and willing to face hardship with the men they married.

I had been in that situation before with a PRC lady and luckily reading SBF thread help my emotions under control. They are far more experienced on how to handle a man than us. That's the fact as all of their customers are males from late teens to early fifties.

Can't beat the KC trap just change number as one bro had mentioned earlier and forgot her slowly although it will take longer period. Get yourself busy everyday with activities and eventually you will forget her.

Well said bro. Who doesn't love $? I think it's juz a matter who have more morals.

To the PRCs, in general I think their first aim in life is to buy their own property.
To the commoners earning low monthly salaries of 3-8k, how to a ever afford one in their lives? Even save whole life also maybe cannot buy one.

WL/FL n singers take shortcuts and try their luck here to earn enough in 6-12 mths. For those working in 'moral jobs' like waitress, clean masseurs it'll probably take them 3-5 years, and slogging 10-12 hrs everyday. So the lures of forsaking yr morals is very high.


some skilful prcs use few months or even few weeks to wipe you out:eek:
if she know you are over 55 and have cpf golden egg even easier for her
she will let you screw her everynite maybe even raw;)
she will blowjob you 3 times a day:p
BUT WHEN YOUR MONEY HAS FINISHED AND YOU ARE DEAD BROKE
she will say goodbye to you,fly back to china and share your hard earned money
with her husband in china:rolleyes:
dun say we never warn you

classic cases, too many in spore to count.

my masseur once told me, in the eyes of her PRC colleagues, sporean men are nice, gentlemen but they are very 好色 and 变态. they must be relating how sporean men are willing to splash $$$ for lust. Juz look at those who pay exorbitant rates in a massage joint for specials you can see how very true.

[cupid xpress]

Bro,
What I see you're facing now is an absolutely great relationship, get to piak free and no need to pay... Where to find siah!
After all this year I cheong, I longed to have this kinda chai to keep... but no luck!
Meanwhile carry on makan outside, once this China chai start asking money which is too great for you, then its time to let go.
Personally, I have many many friends who pay almost 1- 2k to maintain a bonking relationship.
Don't get me wrong, this are not SB. It's how you view this thing and how you play the game...
If you ask me, I think you ROCK, so lucky to meet 1 free fuck no need to pay one.
Next target, pinoy 1, Viet 1, Thai 1, & SG 1....
Gamed no gamed, you ask yourself.
Cheers!

PS: A lot of people want also don't have.... Enjoy!

[cupid xpress]

Oh TS,
Lastly, there's no free lunch around, but I don't think it's time to let go this piece of big fat juicy meat from your mouth now...
It's a matter of how gamed you are....
Cheers!

[RelaFL]

Until now still no money involved. Only air ticket and hotel which i need to pay myself.
Already set up a stop-loss once she ask money from me.

Although she did hint me for an iphone 6 but i just pretend dunno and she also never press on.

Its true that it is far to travel to china but a 4days 3nights trip still worthwhile then looking out for FL and testing which most of the time disappointment. All the bro do your calculation.

So now I'm playing along. See how long can the kc last without any money.

[MichaelWinn]

U

Its true that it is far to travel to china but a 4days 3nights trip still worthwhile then looking out for FL and testing which most of the time disappointment. All the bro do your calculation.

So now I'm playing along. See how long can the kc last without any money.
yes it is disapointment most of the time:(

[korean]

Until now still no money involved. Only air ticket and hotel which i need to pay myself.
Already set up a stop-loss once she ask money from me.

Although she did hint me for an iphone 6 but i just pretend dunno and she also never press on.

Its true that it is far to travel to china but a 4days 3nights trip still worthwhile then looking out for FL and testing which most of the time disappointment. All the bro do your calculation.

So now I'm playing along. See how long can the kc last without any money.

Bro u r serious or only play play with her?

[RelaFL]

For now mix feeling.

[a2014]

Until now still no money involved. Only air ticket and hotel which i need to pay myself.
Already set up a stop-loss once she ask money from me.

So now I'm playing along. See how long can the kc last without any money.
If you have some money on hand and don't mind traveling all the way there, then I guess it's fine.

Time will tell. she will last long even you don't give her money. What make you so sure that she only depend on you for some money and not some more in the queue except you don't know only.

Just my point of view, since your relationship has developed this stage and you are not short of cash, you may want to just go along, in the event if she is spreading the eggs in multiple basket, do not be alarm. She is just trying to survive since you are unable to take care of her completely. Even if you can, I doubt she will 100% comply.

[RelaFL]

Just wait and see loh.

Whenever i go china. She will company me for the whole trip 24/7. I not sure with other bro who like to try diff girls. But for me she service me top notch unable to compare. Sometime i do think knn why travel so far just to release. But someone who know you and know wat u like is different from those fl you just met.
Ya. Maybe i kc abit in the first part but now it changes taking her a a fb more.
I remember my longest trip in china was a 5days 4 night.
First day walking shopping bought nothing back to hotel. Then thats it for the rest of the days. Sex slp eat until i go back. Maybe some of you might think i crazy or pervert.

We do it so many time until i lost count how many time i did. Hahahaha. Only remember that one day from morning till night we did it like 10 times. Otw back my leg jelly.

[a2014]

Just wait and see loh.

Whenever i go china. She will company me for the whole trip 24/7.
Yes normally the case, maybe one day you will get sick of it because need to travel so far. Some give up very fast some take longer time, some take forever.

Did she bring you to visit and introduce to her friends back home or not. A little boring leh, you look at her, she look at you, just doing push up all day long.

[RelaFL]

Went out with her friends, bring me around like tour guide.
For me travelling there is ok. No big deal.

[a2014]

Went out with her friends, bring me around like tour guide.
For me travelling there is ok. No big deal.
She is an FL previously so should be able to come back to sg.

[korean]

Just wait and see loh.

Whenever i go china. She will company me for the whole trip 24/7. I not sure with other bro who like to try diff girls. But for me she service me top notch unable to compare. Sometime i do think knn why travel so far just to release. But someone who know you and know wat u like is different from those fl you just met.
Ya. Maybe i kc abit in the first part but now it changes taking her a a fb more.
I remember my longest trip in china was a 5days 4 night.
First day walking shopping bought nothing back to hotel. Then thats it for the rest of the days. Sex slp eat until i go back. Maybe some of you might think i crazy or pervert.

We do it so many time until i lost count how many time i did. Hahahaha. Only remember that one day from morning till night we did it like 10 times. Otw back my leg jelly.

Wow bro envy u married liao still can roam like no tomorrow :D

[RelaFL]

Div soon

Then back to single.

[korean]

Div soon

Then back to single.

envy...congrat! :D

[loneyheart]

We do it so many time until i lost count how many time i did. Hahahaha. Only remember that one day from morning till night we did it like 10 times. Otw back my leg jelly.

wow 1 day 10x :eek: u t man bro .... But KC can b like taking drugs ... beginning she mayb FOC but once u addicted n start to ask for more ... tats what u call love ..... then t price u pay beside $$$ can b more then u can think of

[RelaFL]

I have been in love and out now. So kinda off mood in love relationship. If money get in between then it time to bye bye. To me now it just the matter of time when everything falls apart. Just wait and see how long. Haha

[a2014]

When you get into one relationship and didn't turn out that rosy you tends to look for another that will replace the short coming.

When this happened, it is quite difficult to mend the broken down marriage be it who is at fault. Whether are you going to go into another marriage is still an unknown, but certainly another non marital relationship is almost confirm.

Maybe you become wiser.

[RelaFL]

Thanks. For the time being i will just enjoy my single hood

[ProfKUM]

well said. that is so true. similar experience.

Doesn't matter whether it's true or false, it's all still a black hole. I have my own story about something like this from about 2-3 years ago somewhere in the back pages of this forum now.

I never followed it up, but in the end I changed my number and forgot about her. Actually I have never forgotten about her, but I make sure to remember the futility of it all. It was never going to go anywhere except end badly if it continued.

Maybe it's true that she loves you (she's 20 years old so frankly.....), but it can come to no good end. I still think maybe that girl loved me, which is true since Chinese women tie love to material provision. Better than pretending that their love for you is unconditional really, because there's really no such thing (except for parents towards their children).

Anyway, there comes a point where one realizes no good can possibly come out of dragging it on.

I know how hard it is to see her as anything other than your only route to happiness when everything else feels so fucking shitty. But you are right, it is blindness that leads you down that path, but knowing and feeling it with conviction are totally different things.

You can't just forget about her of course or simply think happy thoughts, because these things are not for most people, a switch you can turn on or off.

You have to have your mind taken off her and leave no time to feel unhappy, I bet you spend a lot of time moping, it's understandable. Just also understand asap that keeping this up goes nowhere.

Do something that makes you busy, and I mean busy. Something that keeps you busy doing something for YOURSELF, not anyone or everyone else.

Start a business of some sort, a course, or something else that demands your full attention for an extended period. Throw yourself into whatever project is happening at work to secure that promotion, or if you're doing some shitty thing like customer service, go back and examine option 1 or 2.

You will resist forgetting her of course, but that pain associated with being with her, yet also not with her, will disappear when you are busy doing something really meaningful to YOURSELF.

Don't worry about whether your wife is happy, the girl is happy, or anyone else is fucking happy at what you decide to do for yourself.

Change your phone number if you can (I did), delete permanently all ways to contact her (I didn't ha ha, but I never tried to contact her again after I changed my number).

The clouds will clear. Things everywhere won't look as dark as they do now, really.

Don't think the girl needs you, that you are her knight in shining armor. Perhaps you can be, but she's young, experienced (for sure, without judging) and most certainly hardened.

She will survive, you don't have to worry about that if it worries you, which it probably does.

[ProfKUM]

How is this thing going now....
still with her or....?

Thanks. For the time being i will just enjoy my single hood

[wittyman]

Thanks. For the time being i will just enjoy my single hood

bro good move, just enjoy your single hood and f around

u can still keep contact with her and enjoy the time, just not step into marriage so soon :D

[wittyman]

Please check if she have any armpit hair, if she have I urge you end this relationship. :p

opposite, if she dont have then end the r/s :D

[wittyman]

bro my advice.

Shoot raw inside her a few times and see what she say.
If she is okay, means she is serious about you.

interesting and funny suggestion ...

she can raw and has kids with u, but still can f around for $$

[4getful]

opposite, if she dont have then end the r/s :D

Most prc women in ktv i check no more armpit hair! Some take down undies show me their pubic hair, it is not what i want! Chase them out n demand the cashier a prc with blossom armpit hair! It is more difficult than finding a dinasour already :D

[warrior2013]

[QUOTE=jnudes;12147951]The odds of success with a China FL are only 1% as 99% of them love money. Does not matter they are from city, countryside or town, they are all the same.
The 1% that I am mentioning are those willing to lead a normal life with a low salary and willing to face hardship with the men they married.

I had been in that situation before with a PRC lady and luckily reading SBF thread help my emotions under control. They are far more experienced on how to handle a man than us. That's the fact as all of their customers are males from late teens to early fifties.
En Quote **********

Very truthful insights bro. Most of the MLs or FLs would turn out very well as confidantes apart from the "epic lusts" epidodes... the "Richard Gere -- bestowment" that many cheongsters risk their ALL to attain are more often than not, an " Aphrodite's Grail" that is way too elusive for most. IMHO

[hamsapkwai]

Most prc women in ktv i check no more armpit hair! Some take down undies show me their pubic hair, it is not what i want! Chase them out n demand the cashier a prc with blossom armpit hair! It is more difficult than finding a dinasour already :D

brother you are The Man!!!

[orangeproud]

Same old tunes again:rolleyes:

Love me, love me, say that u love me.

Fool me, fool me, go on and fool me.

Love me, love me, pretend that u love me............;)

[senters89]

Quote "Don't think the girl needs you, that you are her knight in shining armor. Perhaps you can be, but she's young, experienced (for sure, without judging) and most certainly hardened.

She will survive, you don't have to worry about that if it worries you, which it probably does."

Bro, this is so true, the earth don stop turning because she left you.
My ex recently told me one thing, i feel is so true

" Yesterday sun shine will not dry the wet floor today"

Whatever that is over had over, I telling myself to get over and over now.

[davidn9]

Bro.. in a same situation as u. :(

[RelaFL]

Being a while, gave out on the so call relationship.
Just fuck and go for all the prc girls.
All just want your money, everyday just asking for money and more.
didnt bother to give any. its a nv ending hole to fill.

To all bros out there, do watever you want but just don't fall into traps.

[Jabba]

I agreed with all that PRC girls cannot be trusted.They lied a lot and for money, they can sleep around.They will call u their boyfriend but behind u, they have many boyfriends. They played around with your feelings.Sex can be an addictive!It took me a while to put this girl behind me.I am glad I left her.无低洞！

[RelaFL]

ya ya, just play while we can hahaha, dun just stick to one hole.
sometimes that hole just too deep for you to fill.