Wife to plead guilty, husband to claim trial in sedition case

[Craz78]

Coward Singaporean wants to claim trial and Aussie wife agrees to take the blame... Smart and calculated move, they think by doing so the court will take into account she's Aussie so the sentence will be less severe... Very business mindset... After earning so much money from idiotic Singaporeans who visit their website; these CB couple most probably escape with minimum damage to enjoy their money after serving the pittance sentence by our Singapore court... Another great move by such CB people who have no morals to speak off... But what to do? Just have to suck thumb becos those stupid Singaporeans wants to degrade their own country by visiting such rubbish website to let such CB earn money.....
But for those people with no morals, this is indeed a great business.... Becos there'll always be dumb Singaporeans around with no brains to support such rubbish websites.... One such website was by another CB Singaporean who ran away to Aussie-land last year... Please support this CB Kia becos he graduate with an engineering degree from a unknown university.... But with a good business mind like these CB couple...


"The trial of the husband-and-wife team accused of sedition, over articles on a now-defunct sociopolitical website, began with an unusual turn yesterday.

Australian Ai Takagi, 23, who is charged with seven counts of sedition for articles published by The Real Singapore (TRS), told the district court she would plead guilty.

But her Singaporean husband Yang Kaiheng, 27, is denying the charges and claiming trial.



The articles posted on TRS between October 2013 and February last year are alleged to have promoted ill will and hostility between different races or classes in Singapore.

The couple also face an eighth charge, for failing to produce financial statements on the website's advertising revenue to the police.

In his opening remarks yesterday, Deputy Public Prosecutor G. Kannan said the couple "maliciously exploit(ed) racial and xenophobic faultlines" and deliberately sowed discord between Singaporeans and foreigners from the Philippines, India and China "for nothing more than their self-interest".

The couple were "wildly successful in their efforts to profit from the ill-will and hostility that they were peddling", Deputy Public Prosecutor G. Kannan said. Based on their bank statements, they earned between A$20,000 (S$20,400) and more than A$50,000 per month, he said.
Though the website purported to be the "voice of average Singaporeans", DPP Kannan said the reality was that it reflected the views of "Takagi, a foreigner who had never resided, studied or worked in Singapore, and Yang, a disgruntled Singaporean".

He said Takagi did the "outrageous" act of adopting the Malay name "Farhan" in one of the contentious articles to hide her identity as a foreigner while fostering xenophobia.

The couple, who married last October, were "wildly successful in their efforts to profit from the ill will and hostility that they were peddling", he added.

Based on their bank statements, they earned between A$20,000 (S$20,500) and more than A$50,000 a month, he said. The court was not told when these sums were earned.

To bring in more advertising revenue, the couple "quite plainly regarded accuracy, propriety and truthfulness as necessary casualties", he added.

DPP Kannan cited an article that falsely asserted a Filipino family had caused an incident between the police and participants of the Thaipusam procession last year.

He also said that TRS was jointly run by the couple, and that evidence will "show Yang's continued, sustained and intimate involvement in every aspect of the running of TRS".

But the couple's lawyer, Mr Choo Zheng Xi, said Yang was not the person behind TRS. "He will deny the distribution, the proprietorship and the writing of the articles in question," he said.

The maximum punishment under the Sedition Act is a $5,000 fine and three years' jail on each charge.

The TRS website was shut down by its editors last May, after the regulator, the Media Development Authority, suspended their licence to operate the site and ordered them to take it offline."

The prosecution is expected to call six witnesses during the trial, including five police officers, while the defence said both Takagi and Yang would testify.

Takagi will make her guilty plea in court today, while Yang's trial will proceed on Friday.

A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Straits Times on March 08, 2016, with the headline 'Wife to plead guilty, husband to claim trial in sedition case'. Print Edition | Subscribe

[11_Frog]

The court should invoke Mareva Injunction, freeze their assets and bank accounts and punish them severely for sedition at the expense of our country :mad:


Send both of them to jail jialat jialat :mad::mad:

[Craz78]

The court should invoke Mareva Injunction, freeze their assets and bank accounts and punish them severely for sedition at the expense of our country :mad:


Send both of them to jail jialat jialat :mad::mad:

unfortunately, this is not the way our judiciary system works.... be it if you are the top man of the country or the lowest life (like these people), the judiciary will treat them impartially & according to their crimes... this is not USA where one can claim millions when one wronged another.....

thats the reason why TOC, TRS, etc can survive for so long without any restrictions... telling lies by itself is not a crime unless it breaks our laws.... to the supporters of such sites, they will mix some facts with lies in order to hoodwink singaporeans.... then when people found out, they'll say its half truths... but mind u, half truths is in fact just lies... just like some idiot Rxx who will even draw statistics to make his lies look real.... i must say that these people really spend huge amount of time to spin such lies.... if there is no benefits for them, would they do it? so now we know that there is big money involved once enough idiots visit and support such websites or blogs....

[11_Frog]

thats the reason why TOC, TRS, etc can survive for so long without any restrictions... telling lies by itself is not a crime unless it breaks our laws.... to the supporters of such sites, they will mix some facts with lies in order to hoodwink singaporeans.... then when people found out, they'll say its half truths... but mind u, half truths is in fact just lies... just like some idiot Rxx who will even draw statistics to make his lies look real.... i must say that these people really spend huge amount of time to spin such lies.... if there is no benefits for them, would they do it? so now we know that there is big money involved once enough idiots visit and support such websites or blogs....


well said bro, well said.

how i wish to have more such bros like you coming out to create awareness and to share with our young fellow Singaporean not to be brain washed by those unreliable private sites, Facebook, blogs, forums and chat rooms etc.........these sites are here to sabotage our country and split our society and community into two different camps, tks bro. ;)


wow wow wow big news big news : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-trs-editor-ai/2583306.html


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[kuasimi]

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Martyn See
March 6 ·


The PAP has a long and nasty record of dishing out personal attacks and name calling. It is a tradition that first began with Lee Kuan Yew labelling his opponents at the Barisan Sosialis "Communists", which resulted in the arrest, detention, torture and stigmatisation of thousands of Singaporeans, in particular Chia Thye Poh who lost 32 years of his life to imprisonment without trial.

Name calling by the PAP is no child's play, especially when the party has full control over the local media. As Francis Seow once noted, "Give a dog a bad name and hang it." It can have devastating effects on families and can break lives.

The late JB Jeyaretnam was called "mangy dog", "skunk" and "street hustler" by LKY, who proceeded to bankrupt and crush him, with full co-operation of the entire system.

Labelled a "Marxist" in 1987, Vincent Cheng was locked up and suffered blows to his abdomen til he coughed blood.

Labelled an "Anti-Christian Chinese Chauvinist", Tang Liang Hong had his assets seized and was exiled, leaving his wife and daughter in mental duress.

Labelled a "political gangster" and "psychopath" by LKY, Chee Soon Juan was prosecuted, bankrupted, mocked and maligned for 20 years of his political and personal life.

During the LKY era, personal attacks were often amplified by the media. When Chee was called a "psychopath", Chua Lee Hoong quoted unnamed medical experts in an entire article to support LKY's diagnosis of the former psychology lecturer.

In the post-LKY era, the dirty work has largely been farmed out to a shadowy brigade of keyboard lynch mobs. Sometimes operating under a shroud of pseudonymity, character assassinations have since taken an even nastier tone.

Recent recipients of such venom include not just opposition politicians (Vincent Wijeysingha, Yaw Shin Leong, Nicole Seah) but lawyers (M. Ravi), bloggers (Roy Ngerng, Kirsten Han), rights activists (Jolovan Wham, Gilbert Goh), website editors (TRS, TOC) and now even parents seeking justice for their dead children.

Next to detention without trial and legal suits, launching personal attacks is PAP's most effective strategy to silence and crush its critics. And it has also worked wonders in perpetuating a culture of self-censorship. No one likes to have his personal life exposed to all and sundry as a consequence for merely challenging the authorities.

But the complete impunity enjoyed during the LKY era is now gone. Politicians who engage in gutter politics are now as vulnerable as the opponents they target. For everytime Chan Chun Sing attacks Chee Soon Juan, the gut reaction of netizens is to reciprocate with even lower blows against the minister. For everytime K. Shanmugam threatens a critic, the subject of his divorce gets another airing. For every Yaw Shin Leong, there is always a Michael Palmer waiting to be found out.

But will the PAP elevate itself from such an-eye-for-an-eye political discourse?

Highly unlikely. Personal attacks and name-calling has proven to serve the PAP very well over the decades. It is very much in the party's DNA. To extricate it from itself, it needs to re-evaluate and denounce LKY's use of such a method to crush opponents. No one is betting on that to happen.

[kuasimi]

http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.sg/2007/02/paps-internet-offensive.html

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 04, 2007
PAP's Internet Offensive
Saturday February 3, 1:09 PM
S'pore's PAP rebuts online critics anonymously--daily


SINGAPORE, Feb 3 (Reuters) - Members of Singapore's long-ruling People's Action Party (PAP) are posting anonymous messages in Internet forums and blogs to rebut online criticism of the party, a leading daily reported on Saturday.
The postings were an initiative driven by two sub-committees under the PAP's "new media" committee chaired by Manpower Minister Ng Eng Hen, the pro-government Straits Times said, citing unnamed sources.

A government spokeswoman contacted on Saturday declined to comment.

The two sub-committees, made up of politicians and some technology-savvy party activists, were formed after the May 2006 general election, the Straits Times said. The PAP's share of the vote slid to 66.6 percent last year, from 75.3 percent at the previous election in 2001.

The panels had been set up to express the PAP's views online where there were few pro-establishment voices, the newspaper said, quoting a member of parliament who heads one sub-committee.

"The identity is not important. It is the message that is important," Baey Yam Keng was quoted as saying.

The Straits Times quoted Baey as saying that the messages were only effective if they were not "too obvious" lest they resemble "propaganda".

A PAP activist involved in posting the anonymous messages was quoted as saying that he tracked popular blogs and forums to "see if there is anything we can clarify" on controversial issues such as the impending hike in the goods and services tax.

The PAP, which has ruled Singapore since independence in 1965, has been criticised by human rights groups such as Amnesty International in the past for its curbs on freedom of expression.

Party leaders say tight regulation of public debate and the media in the city-state is necessary to maintain law and order.


The above Reuters article is derived from Straits Time article below:

Feb 3, 2007
PAP moves to counter criticism of party, Govt in cyberspace

By Li Xueying

THE People's Action Party (PAP) is mounting a quiet counter-insurgency against its online critics.

It has members going into Internet forums and blogs to rebut anti-establishment views and putting up postings anonymously.

Sources told The Straits Times the initiative is driven by two sub-committees of the PAP's 'new media' committee chaired by Manpower Minister Ng Eng Hen.

One sub-committee, co-headed by Minister of State (Education) Lui Tuck Yew and Hong Kah GRC MP Zaqy Mohamad, strategises the campaign.

The other is led by Tanjong Pagar GRC MP Baey Yam Keng and Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC MP Josephine Teo. Called the 'new media capabilities group', it executes the strategies.

Both were set up after last year's General Election. Aside from politicians, some 20 IT-savvy party activists are also involved.

When contacted, Mr Baey declined to give details of the group's activities, but he outlined the broad principles of the initiative.

It was necessary for the PAP to have a voice in cyberspace as there were few in the online community who were pro-establishment, he said.

As such, the committees aim to 'observe how new media is developing and see how we can use the new media as part of the overall media landscape', he added.

'How do we facilitate views that are pro-party and propagate them through the Internet?'

The approach reflects comments by Rear-Admiral (NS) Lui at the PAP's party conference in December. He called on younger activists to put up views 'to moderate the vitriol and balance the skewed comments' on the Internet.

But this can only work if activists are not 'too obvious' about it, Mr Baey said yesterday. Otherwise it comes across as 'propaganda'.

'The identity is not important. It is the message that is important,' he added.

One activist who is involved said that when posting comments on online forums and the feedback boxes of blogs, he does not identify himself as a PAP member.

He tracks popular blogs and forums to 'see if there is anything we can clarify' on hot-button topics such as the impending hike in the Goods and Services Tax.

But he added: 'We don't rebut everything. Sometimes, what is said is fair enough, and we send the feedback on to the committee.'

This latest initiative comes on top of a blog site with posts by 12 MPs born after Singapore's Independence in 1965.

It recognises that more younger Singaporeans are relying on the new media as a main source of information.

An Institute of Policy Studies (IPS) study conducted last year found that younger and better-educated Singaporeans relied on information from the Internet when shaping their voting choices at the last GE.

Among the opposition parties, members and supporters of the Workers' Party, in particular, post regularly on forums online.

But IPS senior research fellow Tan Tarn How wonders about the effectiveness of the PAP's campaign.

He said Internet users who post on forums such as Sammyboy tend not to be interested in 'intellectual debate' and so will not be persuaded by PAP activists anyway.

As for more serious-minded bloggers, he said the views that the activists may put out are already available in the mainstream media.

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You may want to read Mr. Wang Says So and Xeno Boy articles on this topic. There is also a good analysis on why PAP "leaks" the "secret" operations here.

I share similar sentiments with Mr. Wang on this particular report. I am very surprised that the ST article was allowed to published.

First of all, to reveal such "secret strategy" is disastrous to PAP's internet image! Hey, c'mon, as the largest and powerful ruling party that has dominated Singapore's political scene, its members do not dare to identify themselves as PAP members when communicating with other Singaporeans on the internet platform? Are they ashame or too afraid to be identified with PAP or what?

But on second thought, I think PAP has found out that their "secret covert operations" may be too slow and ineffective in covering the whole internet sphere, thus, to "leak" this information in a hopeful bid to create fear in bloggers and internet writers.

Personally, I am proud of my past association with WP even when it was just a political party on the development path. What are the PAP members afraid of by openly declaring their association with PAP? What's the matter with them? Aren't they proud of their own party which has contributed much to Singapore's progress for the last 5 decades?

As all of you could observe from the many "anonymous" comments recorded here on my blog for the past few months, one would now really put serious doubts on whether they are really "PAP's internet fighters"! ;) How many of these comments come from them, I really wonder!

I have hoped that one day, this PAP's secret internet offensive will be revealed to the public and thus, insisted to keep the comment column open to anonymous posters. Interesting enough, after I declare my intention of capturing all those possible agents' vicious attacks on me so that the whole world will know about it, there is a dramatic decrease in such anonymous comments!

If you read those comments in my blog, you will know why PAP wanted their internet fighters to stay anonymous. Many of the remarks are even defamatory in nature!

As a matter of fact, I have long suspected that PAP has started to carry out its "internet management" plan as far back as July 2006 when I had a meeting with a few WP members and associates. The successful application of internet by WP back in GE 2006 as well as the active engagement of WP members 2 years prior to GE 2006 has made PAP rethink about the possible impact of the new media. Prior to GE 2006, PAP has taken the view that the new media, internet, will have little impact on the political front even though that it has been dominated by anti-PAP sentiments for a almost a decade. But apparently GE 2006 has changed their mind.

The sudden increase of aggressive comments posted on my blog as well as forums right after GE 2006 is an interesting indicator of how PAP's internet fighters work. They may be very clumsy but they may be effective in a sense that I might have possibly become one of their trophy!

Well, life still goes on in the internet sphere with or without PAP internet fighters. But I guess now most people will be more skeptical when they see "Pro-PAP" or "Anti-Opposition" postings on the net... the question will always be on our mind "Hey, is this from the PAP internet fighters?" ;)

Goh Meng Seng

[ComplainKing]

Clone talking to clone . :D ;)

[Craz78]

Amazing income just to sprout lies and sow discord... I wonder how much dividends were paid to her supporters? But looking at how greedy she looks, most probable close to nothing.....

Extracts from St:

"Going by the claims of Ai Takagi, The Real Singapore (TRS) website was nothing more than a platform for Singaporeans to express their views without fear.

But, in fact, it was a big cash cow that raked in almost half a million dollars in advertising revenue for its owners in just 17 months.

Facts about how the Australian citizen ran the news portal as an owner and chief editor emerged in court yesterday, as she pleaded guilty to four counts of sedition for publishing articles that promoted ill will and hostility between Singaporeans and foreigners.


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Ai Takagi (right, seen with husband Yang Kaiheng), was found to have posted numerous articles on defunct website The Real Singapore under the fictitious name of 'Farhan'.
Related Story
Fake name 'Farhan' used on TRS reappears on other socio-political websites

Among the four inflammatory articles was one where she falsely stated that a Filipino family had caused a commotion between the police and participants of last year's Thaipusam procession.

Yesterday, the prosecution said that Takagi, 23, had intentionally posted these articles to drive up traffic and to profit from it. More than 95 per cent of the website's readers were from Singapore.

The court heard that TRS received more than 134 million page views in total from May 2014 to March last year, double that of the preceding year.

Articles that sought to promote ill-will between S'poreans, foreigners

TRS editor and publisher Ai Takagi, 23, was yesterday convicted of four charges of sedition in TRS articles that sought to promote ill-will and hostility between Singaporeans and foreigners. They are:

Video: Local Singaporeans Complain of Police Brutality At Thaipusam Procession, published on Feb 4, 2015

The article made a false claim that a Filipino family had complained about a group of Singaporeans who were playing musical instruments during the Feb 3, 2015 Thaipusam procession. It also said erroneously that the police "descended" on the group because of the complaint.

Ai Takagi first attributed the story to a "TRS contributor", then later to "Ri Nitesha TRS Reader".

She claimed "Ri Nitesha" was Ms Gowri Yanaseckaran, who e-mailed TRS.

Investigations showed that though Ms Gowri did e-mail TRS, she made no mention of a Filipino family. Ms Gowri later said on her Facebook page that the article was "cooked up".

Takagi insisted that Ms Gowri was the source of the information, but could not produce e-mails or documents to back up her claims.

Why Some Singaporeans Feel Annoyed With Pinoys In Singapore, published on June 18, 2014

The article quoted a Singaporean who had allegedly quit his job over the behaviour of Filipinos in his company.It made several assertions about Filipinos, such as that they often gave preferential treatment to their countrymen and were "two-faced", "relentless back stabbers".

Takagi said the article was based on an e-mail sent to a TRS e-mail account that only she could access.

Dear TRS, PRC Woman Makes Boy Pee Publicly In The MRT Into A Bottle, published on Feb 18, 2014

The article said a woman from the People's Republic of China (PRC) had pulled down her grandson's pants while they were in the MRT, and had asked him to urinate into an empty drink bottle.

Takagi claimed a TRS reader had submitted the article, and had also given the same information to Stomp, a citizen journalism website owned by Singapore Press Holdings. But the Stomp article did not say that the woman was from China.

Takagi was not able to produce the source article allegedly submitted by the reader.

Exposed: Puppy Murderer Works In Healthcare Industry, Her Company Hires Mostly Foreigners, published on Oct 13, 2013

The article, purportedly about a company that hired more foreigners than Singaporeans, had carried an editor's note that said it was the objective of TRS editors to "instil fear in companies and make them think twice before hiring foreigners without really considering our Singaporean workforce".

It was signed off by a "Farhan". But investigations showed Takagi had been using the Malay- sounding name to hide her own identity since 2013.

PRESSING ISSUE

This is quite urgent for us, since you said you would be able to do it these few days. Our traffic revenue has dropped from like $20,000 USD/month to like $3,000 to $4,000 a month, which is terrible! ''

AI TAKAGI, in a Skype chat with a freelance programmer hired to fix technical problems on The Real Singapore website.

Deputy Public Prosecutor G. Kannan said the website used advertising services by Google and Taboola, which display advertisements alongside articles. Each time an article is viewed on the site, an advertisement is displayed and TRS would be paid for it.

Between December 2013 and April last year, the website earned over A$473,000 (S$488,000) in advertising revenue from Google alone, he said.

Despite this, Takagi had claimed that she "did not keep tabs" on the website's traffic and also did not "give much thought" to advertising revenue, said DPP Kannan.

However, he added, her online chat transcripts showed otherwise, and she had expressed her frustration when the website ran into problems that caused traffic, and advertising revenue, to fall.

On one such occasion in September 2012, she sent a slew of messages over Skype to a programmer in just six minutes, and said: "We have already repeated many times to you, this is affecting our readership and also our earnings tremendously. Seriously, when can I get this fixed?"

Takagi had also put together a presentation titled, "Advertising with The Real Singapore", in 2013, in which she said the website would work together with advertisers to produce advertorials.

During investigations, Takagi denied having a particular agenda, and said the articles she published on TRS were all based on "what people felt and submitted to her".

But DPP Kannan said an editor's note she had written made clear that the website wanted to "instil fear" in those who hired foreigners.

Takagi had also once said to a contributor that the style of writing on TRS "was one of portraying the mainstream media in Singapore as being biased", he added.

He also said Takagi was not forthcoming with her answers on various issues during investigations. In three statements recorded by the police, she had answered "not relevant" no less than 101 times, he said.

Yesterday, Takagi sat in the dock solemnly as these facts of the case were read out. Four other charges against her - three of them for sedition and one for refusing to hand over documents needed in police investigations - were taken into consideration for sentencing.

The maximum punishment under the Sedition Act is a $5,000 fine and three years' jail on each charge.

District Judge Salina Ishak adjourned sentencing submissions to March 23.

Takagi and her Singaporean husband, Yang Kaiheng, 27, were expected to face a joint trial on Monday. But before it began, she told the court she would be pleading guilty. Her husband denies the charges and will claim trial. Both are represented by lawyer Choo Zheng Xi from Peter Low LLC.

Yesterday, there was also some drama when an unknown man tried to serve a writ of summons, a document to commence a civil suit, on Yang outside the courtroom.

A witness told The Straits Times that the man threw the documents in Yang's face, after he refused to accept them. Police were later seen taking the statements of both men."

[ComplainKing]

Next to close TOC and the $$$$$$$$$$$$ . :D

[Craz78]

Next to close TOC and the $$$$$$$$$$$$ . :D

I hope so... But in Sg.... Not easy becos these websites only lies... Unless they do something against the laws, u can't close them down.... That's why trs managed to last so long and earn so much money for these CB couple and its supporters....
If trs didn't make a wrong move, trs would be still around...

For a foreigner to degrade Sg is bad, for a Singaporean to degrade his own country is worse than a dog.... All this wrongdoings just to earn money, what morals were such people taught?

[rocket_boy]

Next to close TOC and the $$$$$$$$$$$$ . :D

I hope so... But in Sg.... Not easy becos these websites only lies... Unless they do something against the laws, u can't close them down.... That's why trs managed to last so long and earn so much money for these CB couple and its supporters....
If trs didn't make a wrong move, trs would be still around...

For a foreigner to degrade Sg is bad, for a Singaporean to degrade his own country is worse than a dog.... All this wrongdoings just to earn money, what morals were such people taught?


bro Craz78, you are talking to a clone who has been hiding behind the computer screen washing the brain of our young, telling lies to Singaporean :rolleyes:


be careful who you are talking to ;)

[Craz78]

bro Craz78, you are talking to a clone who has been hiding behind the computer screen washing the brain of our young, telling lies to Singaporean :rolleyes:


be careful who you are talking to ;)

Thanks bro,
We say he's a clone and he says we r a clone... At the end of the day, only CB Kia will degrade his own country for money... Clone or no clone; CB kia like this trs male founder, kuasimi, etc... R the same grade for low life.... Sowing discord in his country for personal gains.... even the pai Kia in my schools have more ethics and moral than that... Pui...

[kuasimi]

Thanks bro,
We say he's a clone and he says we r a clone... At the end of the day, only CB Kia will degrade his own country for money... Clone or no clone; CB kia like this trs male founder, kuasimi, etc... R the same grade for low life.... Sowing discord in his country for personal gains.... even the pai Kia in my schools have more ethics and moral than that... Pui...

You are a Genius.

Criticise PAP = Degrade Country = Sow Discord among Singaporeans for personal gains.

The way you link things to play the nationalist card and patriotic card, you are better off staying in Communist China and North Korea. The lifestyle there suits your logic.

Protecting your masters so as to protect your own self interest at the expense of other citizens will be really degrading the country.

[Craz78]

You are a Genius.

Criticise PAP = Degrade Country = Sow Discord among Singaporeans for personal gains.

The way you link things to play the nationalist card and patriotic card, you are better off staying in Communist China and North Korea. The lifestyle there suits your logic.

Protecting your masters so as to protect your own self interest at the expense of other citizens will be really degrading the country.

There is a huge difference between linking everything wrong had something to do with pap and criticise pap.... Look at the articles u post, were these articles cristicising pap becos they did something wrong?

Pap is nobody's master. Is ur precious trs CB couple, states time founder, etc all ur master? Why did these CB Kia degrade Singapore and u still suck their balls?

If pap is really not good, it'll be out of the door in the next election... But as long as the oppo continues to be fucked up, then no choice but to vote in the better party. Isn't this democracy? Look at the way the oppo talk, when they cannot out debate pap, they say "agree to disagree".. What crap...

Do not mistake my patriotism to my country, it has nothing to do with pap... When u criticise and degrade Singapore, u r not degrading pap... U r degrading my country...

[kuasimi]

There is a huge difference between linking everything wrong had something to do with pap and criticise pap.... Look at the articles u post, were these articles cristicising pap becos they did something wrong?

Pap is nobody's master. Is ur precious trs CB couple, states time founder, etc all ur master? Why did these CB Kia degrade Singapore and u still suck their balls?

If pap is really not good, it'll be out of the door in the next election... But as long as the oppo continues to be fucked up, then no choice but to vote in the better party. Isn't this democracy? Look at the way the oppo talk, when they cannot out debate pap, they say "agree to disagree".. What crap...

Do not mistake my patriotism to my country, it has nothing to do with pap... When u criticise and degrade Singapore, u r not degrading pap... U r degrading my country...

I guess you only read Singapore Media and think Singapore is Wonderland whereby nothing goes wrong, PAP is the best in the world, everybody is happy and prosperous.

It is sick people like you that will destroy Singapore. PAP was once Opposition, did you say the same thing about Opposition then?

With all the Cheat Codes like in Gaming, even SDP can win elections and be Government if SDP had those Cheat Codes PAP had. e.g. PAP control Media. Elections Dept, Civil Service, NTUC, GLCs, Grassroots, schools, change Laws and Constitutions to suit its own agenda etc

Elections in Singapore is not a good indicator of a 'better party'.

Non PAP Supporters = Cibai Kias. Foreigners. Traitors and Destroyers of Singapore. Evil and always do wrong.

PAP Supporters = Nationalistic and Patriotic Singaporeans. Good people and always do right.

Your exclusiveness, definitions and absolutes only belong to dark agendas. You are no different from the Nazi Party or Communist Party. Someday, you will suggest send the 30% to Gas Chambers.

I guess if PAP loses power, your own self interests and own self riches will be cut because you are in Grassroots and your business contracts with PAP depend on PAP paying you from taxpayers money like how $2 PAP company AIMS earn money from all PAP Town Councils.

Selfish and self serving folks like you will destroy Singapore in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGD0PoJ_Xew


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YwWby8dI5E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8sUQWXxUk


MM Lee admits that all grassroots organizations are part of PAP


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Grassroots leaders’ good intentions the root cause of financial lapses: Lim Swee Say


http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/08/grassroots-leaders-good-intentions-the-root-cause-of-financial-lapses-lim-swee-say/

[Craz78]

I guess you only read Singapore Media and think Singapore is Wonderland whereby nothing goes wrong, PAP is the best in the world, everybody is happy and prosperous.

It is sick people like you that will destroy Singapore. PAP was once Opposition, did you say the same thing about Opposition then?

With all the Cheat Codes like in Gaming, even SDP can win elections and be Government if SDP had those Cheat Codes PAP had. e.g. PAP control Media. Elections Dept, Civil Service, NTUC, GLCs, Grassroots, schools, change Laws and Constitutions to suit its own agenda etc

Elections in Singapore is not a good indicator of a 'better party'.

Non PAP Supporters = Cibai Kias. Foreigners. Traitors and Destroyers of Singapore. Evil and always do wrong.

PAP Supporters = Nationalistic and Patriotic Singaporeans. Good people and always do right.

Your exclusiveness, definitions and absolutes only belong to dark agendas. You are no different from the Nazi Party or Communist Party. Someday, you will suggest send the 30% to Gas Chambers.

I guess if PAP loses power, your own self interests and own self riches will be cut because you are in Grassroots and your business contracts with PAP depend on PAP paying you from taxpayers money like how $2 PAP company AIMS earn money from all PAP Town Councils.

Selfish and self serving folks like you will destroy Singapore in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGD0PoJ_Xew


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YwWby8dI5E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8sUQWXxUk


MM Lee admits that all grassroots organizations are part of PAP


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Grassroots leaders’ good intentions the root cause of financial lapses: Lim Swee Say


http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/08/grassroots-leaders-good-intentions-the-root-cause-of-financial-lapses-lim-swee-say/

It seems that ur narrow minded peice of shit... Every thing in this country was built by pap becos it is the govt of the day... So? Does it mean every one in grassroots vote for pap? The ans is no... No one is forced to vote for pap... Get it into ur fucking brain... I have many friends in grassroots and not many r pap members... So u go and fuck urself...

Being patriotic is not being pap... Being patriotic means vote for the best party to lead the country so that Singapore can last forever... Even if it means u will not benefit more than ur fellow Singaporeans.... We prosper as a whole country based on how hard we work... Meritocracy...

This is something u CB Kia will not know, becos it's always me, me and me... Complain, complain and more complain.... Else, it's to degrade ur own country for whatever benefits u get by doing so, like these trs, toc fuckers....

By the way, when pap was oppo... Did they behave like the current oppo? Did they talk cock during the election rally? Did they say that "let's agree to disagree" crap? Did it complain that the incumbent was not fair to the oppo? No.... They suck it up and fight and delivered their promises....

Did the current oppo face the kind of adversity like the pap then? No, the current oppo r having a much fair playing ground than the pap then... So why still complain so much? So lousy and still want to become our govt, u want Singapore to be destroyed by lousy oppo?

Just be like the then pap, only then can any oppo win the election... Be cleaner than white...
I've stayed in many countries and so I know what's good and what's not good... Dun think Singaporeans r frog in the well... Becos of our govt, many poor Singaporeans grew up to become the better persons... Pap is not perfect, but compared to our oppo, it's almost perfect... That's how fucked up our oppo are... U want me to vote in a fucked up oppo just to spite the better pap? For what? R u stupid?

[kuasimi]

It seems that ur narrow minded peice of shit... Every thing in this country was built by pap becos it is the govt of the day... So? Does it mean every one in grassroots vote for pap? The ans is no... No one is forced to vote for pap... Get it into ur fucking brain... I have many friends in grassroots and not many r pap members... So u go and fuck urself...

Being patriotic is not being pap... Being patriotic means vote for the best party to lead the country so that Singapore can last forever... Even if it means u will not benefit more than ur fellow Singaporeans.... We prosper as a whole country based on how hard we work... Meritocracy...

This is something u CB Kia will not know, becos it's always me, me and me... Complain, complain and more complain.... Else, it's to degrade ur own country for whatever benefits u get by doing so, like these trs, toc fuckers....

By the way, when pap was oppo... Did they behave like the current oppo? Did they talk cock during the election rally? Did they say that "let's agree to disagree" crap? Did it complain that the incumbent was not fair to the oppo? No.... They suck it up and fight and delivered their promises....

Did the current oppo face the kind of adversity like the pap then? No, the current oppo r having a much fair playing ground than the pap then... So why still complain so much? So lousy and still want to become our govt, u want Singapore to be destroyed by lousy oppo?

Just be like the then pap, only then can any oppo win the election... Be cleaner than white...
I've stayed in many countries and so I know what's good and what's not good... Dun think Singaporeans r frog in the well... Becos of our govt, many poor Singaporeans grew up to become the better persons... Pap is not perfect, but compared to our oppo, it's almost perfect... That's how fucked up our oppo are... U want me to vote in a fucked up oppo just to spite the better pap? For what? R u stupid?

You twist and turn alot. Make up your mind.

Go and read up Singapore's real history, not PAP's version of Singapore history.
Even LKY himself led protest before as Opposition Leader. Was he not sowing discord?

First you accuse non PAP supporters /debaters / anybody who highlight bad things in Singapore as degrading the country but without showing evidence. Then now say Grassroots are neutral.

Every Opposition to you is crap, and you are saying you are not Pro PAP? You take Singaporeans as idiots? Stop your patriotic bullshit because you are only Pro PAP, not Pro Singapore. Pro Singaporeans will never define Singapore in only absolutes like you do.

Every Singaporean knows Grassroots are only Pro-PAP. Singaporeans are not idiots. When there were disputes between residents and PAP MPs, the Grassroots who were suppose to represent the Residents always only take the side of the PAP MPs. These lies need to stop.

You got evidence WP will not make an equally good or better government? Where is the evidence or track record of WP screwing up Singapore? Like you said, there is no perfect government so why you say WP cannot be government but only PAP can be government?

You keep denying realities in Singapore. Nobody was forced to vote for PAP but PAP feel so insecure all the time that PAP need to introduce so many Cheat Codes to win elections?

You talk about the past PAP but all either dead or retired. If the New PAP becomes corrupt and dictatorial because the new PAP are enjoying the one sided power structure in Singapore, then your descendants can only blame sick people like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uEBdniQvcg

[ramon]

Wow! PAP IBs have invaded SBF! Well done!

[rocket_boy]

The fucking problem is that no matter how useless our govt is, it's definitely more useful than u....
Only morons like u will feel they write something so idiotic...


the clones are here to discredit our govt, brainwash S'porean, make every issue a mountain out of a molehill so no point reasoning with them.


what we need to do is to create awareness and let S'porean know that their intention is to brainwash S'porean especially the young and illiterate by :


1) disseminate false information to the public via their own private blogs, forums, Facebook, Youtube, websites etc.........,



2) continuously post negative news links about how bad and incapable our govt is,



3) making use of our young innocent teenager to mock our retired politician(s) with the intention to flame our govt and the judiciary system for being uncompassionate towards young juvenile if get punished in court,



4) sabotage Singapore and S'porean by participating in foreign forum(s) criticizing their politician(s) as corrupted and inciting their citizens to hate S'porean by claiming the criticism is made and written by Singaporean,



5) teamed up with foreign media to fabricate stories, spread untrue rumours, endlessly create negative criticism via online platform 24/7, and continuously made allegations flaming our govt on every issue, including some hypocrite Social Activist on the PRETEXT of claiming doing something good for the country, :mad:



6) true blue S'porean who rebutted, opposed and exposed them, immediately they'll use all the clones to criticize and attacked you as if many genuine S'porean disagreed with your view :D



7) Is this how the foreign media, the Social Activist, the fugitives, the disgruntled individual and the no-substance no-solution bickering parties going to lead our country for the next 50 Years ???



8) continuously posting new messages and media links to overwrite our Awareness Campaign messages not to let people read our postings,

(in future those who are reading, pls scroll back a few pages to find our postings)




By stirring more shit, you will improve the readerships, a big thank you to those who works in the media industry !!! :D



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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-the-real-singapore/2578924.html



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[kuasimi]

Wow! PAP IBs have invaded SBF! Well done!

The IBs have invaded all social media, Facebooks, Twitters, Instagrams, Whatsapp, all types of Internet forums etc. Part of PAP Grassroots multi million dollars initiative project paid by taxpayers themselves to be brainwashed for themselves. On duty 24/7.

If you see same repeated but slightly altered messages/comments on social media, it came from central scriptwriters at PAP HQ to plant ideas/ diversions/ images/ impressions/ lies into Singaporean's heads.


Add the below too.

Public relations practitioners cashing in on PAP’s GE2015 win, claiming credit for helping 6 candidates
September 27, 2015


http://mothership.sg/2015/09/public-relations-practitioners-cashing-in-on-paps-ge2015-win-claiming-credit-for-helping-6-candidates/

[Craz78]

You twist and turn alot. Make up your mind.

Go and read up Singapore's real history, not PAP's version of Singapore history.
Even LKY himself led protest before as Opposition Leader. Was he not sowing discord?

First you accuse non PAP supporters /debaters / anybody who highlight bad things in Singapore as degrading the country but without showing evidence. Then now say Grassroots are neutral.

Every Opposition to you is crap, and you are saying you are not Pro PAP? You take Singaporeans as idiots? Stop your patriotic bullshit because you are only Pro PAP, not Pro Singapore. Pro Singaporeans will never define Singapore in only absolutes like you do.

Every Singaporean knows Grassroots are only Pro-PAP. Singaporeans are not idiots. When there were disputes between residents and PAP MPs, the Grassroots who were suppose to represent the Residents always only take the side of the PAP MPs. These lies need to stop.

You got evidence WP will not make an equally good or better government? Where is the evidence or track record of WP screwing up Singapore? Like you said, there is no perfect government so why you say WP cannot be government but only PAP can be government?

You keep denying realities in Singapore. Nobody was forced to vote for PAP but PAP feel so insecure all the time that PAP need to introduce so many Cheat Codes to win elections?

You talk about the past PAP but all either dead or retired. If the New PAP becomes corrupt and dictatorial because the new PAP are enjoying the one sided power structure in Singapore, then your descendants can only blame sick people like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uEBdniQvcg

PAP had been enjoying one sided power for many decades and continues to enjoy becos it does its best for the people. what did oppo do in the meantime?

WP had already shown us and the world what a lousy party it is... i mean, cannot account for money, cannot find auditor with correct qualifications, cannot explain why money cannot be found, cannot rebut in chronological order of events stated by the AG, cannot follow proper rules, omg... the list goes on and on..... and it had the cheek to say that it is experienced with running a town council for 2 decades.... comon who are u kidding.... u want them to run the country?????

[rocket_boy]

if the no-substance no-solution parties run our country, immediately our Sing Dollar will drop and depreciate instantaneously :D

[kuasimi]

PAP had been enjoying one sided power for many decades and continues to enjoy becos it does its best for the people. what did oppo do in the meantime?

WP had already shown us and the world what a lousy party it is... i mean, cannot account for money, cannot find auditor with correct qualifications, cannot explain why money cannot be found, cannot rebut in chronological order of events stated by the AG, cannot follow proper rules, omg... the list goes on and on..... and it had the cheek to say that it is experienced with running a town council for 2 decades.... comon who are u kidding.... u want them to run the country?????

How to trust a party that is honest because they sue everyone that says they are dishonest?

PAP look perfect because we now know citizens cannot start lawsuits against Government because Government created a law to protect themselves from lawsuits. e.g. SAF deaths Dominque case. Hope everyone working at private sector has such law so nobody need to worry about lawsuits.

Government got evidence then arrest WP and throw them in jail. Talk no action means no substance. Anybody can cast accusations but where is the action?

[rocket_boy]

How to trust a party that is honest because they sue everyone that says they are dishonest?




How to trust an Opposition party that continuously disseminate false information to to mislead the public via their own private blogs, social media, Facebooks, Twitters, Instagrams, Youtubes, Whatsapp, all types of Internet forums etc 24/7 365 days ? :mad:


worst still washing the brain of our young innocent youths and teenager to mock our retired politician(s) with the intention to flame our govt and the judiciary system for being uncompassionate towards young juvenile if get punished in court ! :mad:



sabotage Singapore and S'porean by participating in foreign forum(s) criticizing foreign politician(s) as corrupted and inciting their citizens to hate S'porean by claiming the criticism is made and written by Singaporean !


what kind of opposition parties are they ?


trying to ruin our country and its citizen ?

[Craz78]

How to trust a party that is honest because they sue everyone that says they are dishonest?

PAP look perfect because we now know citizens cannot start lawsuits against Government because Government created a law to protect themselves from lawsuits. e.g. SAF deaths Dominque case. Hope everyone working at private sector has such law so nobody need to worry about lawsuits.

Government got evidence then arrest WP and throw them in jail. Talk no action means no substance. Anybody can cast accusations but where is the action?

How does one trust a party leader to be honest when he does not sue those who slander it? If it does not sue, that means there is truth in those who accuse the govt leaders...
If what u say is the truth, why b afraid of the govt leaders to sue? I'll be glad if u can help us get rid of any corrupt govt leaders... I'm sure LHL will be happy to get rid of any corrupt people hiding in his team... Please start the ball rolling... Help
Make Singapore corrupt-free...
Govt does not sue, only its leaders sue if it is falsely accused... Get it into ur brain...
Saf is by military law, not by civil law... Dun any how say that the ppl who did wrong r not punished...
Wp case, the courts will judge whether there's any wrong doings... So let the courts decide... If nothing wp did wrong, why worry? Why need to hide their accounts by not submitting them? Why? So many questions and these questions were accumulated over more than 2 years... Is the govt incompetent to allow wp to go away unchecked when it's own town councils r required to submit their audits? Why? Becos wp being oppo, they think they r above the law?