What is the right income to get a SG wife

[drjones]

Dear bros,

I am seeking your honest opinion on this.

I am in my mid thirties and find it extremely hard to get a date in singapore becasue of my career or lack of it.

I am currently a driver drawing a salary of $1800 and there are many women who seemed to get frightened away the moment i mention my job and career.

I am not pro China, vietnamese or women from other countries as I simply do not trust them. yes, chinese women are hotter than sg women without a doubt, yet i am not looking for a gf nor a fling but a wife.


Can i know what is the suitable salary for a men to get a date/wife at age 35/36 years old.

I am an o level graduate only. Though I had very good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels, I did not proceed to study A levels and university as my family is simply to poor at that point of time. My mum is sick and cannot work and my dad is retrenched so I had to start working immediately after O levels.

I am finding it so hard to get attached now. I am looking for women that are 29- 30 years old

[drjones]

The advantage that i have now is that I am still good looking. Erm, I was a model for mannequin studios in my 20s so I am still having that advantage in my 30s, of course, not as good looking as before.

I have attended various speed dating sessions organised by SDN and most women, even those of younger age like 25 took an intest in me, judging from their behaviour, the way they look at me and of course, when they only talk to me and refusing to talk to other men.

The problem comes when the question is dropped:

"So what do you do for a living?"

I really cringe to reply to this - a delivery driver.

Almost immediately, I noticed the 180 degree change in their expression and i see them drawing big crosses on their paper on the slot with my name on.

They seemed so digusted with my job that they write me off immediately from their shortlist

[drjones]

I was still drawing a decent salary as a male model or around $3000 ~ $4500 monthly on a free lance basis in my twenties.

You know in your 20s, you think nothing much and i party party and party non stop, spending it on car and also holidays.

I had no lack on women coming to me for one night stands, and in fact i had lots of fun with the female models in my company.

All these came to a stop after my last print ad with starhub, my model agency decided not to renew my contract anymore and that was exactly on the dot, on my 30th birthday. The hard fact hit me; i was too old as a model

So what do you suggest to me as my next course of action?

I am not good in direction so no taxi/grab/uber for me. I currently only drive fixed routes so i can perform my job relatively well

Please advise

[cuscorex92]

well..i drive for a living for the last 20 yrs.i've seen my trade as a fading industry,no fresh blood.or shld i put it,young dudes wont consider taking it up as a career,& too high cost to start off with our COE sys.

to add on,as wat TS observed,its not exactly a 'reputable' occupation as compared to those white-collared execs.biz-titles can b self-proclaimed on biz-card,its stil the dollars & cents tat do most of the toking，general impression on blue-collared r low-wage.
TS,from another perspective,u can take those speed-dates tat turn u away r blessing in disguise；能与你共富贵的，又有几个能共患难？

缘份，可遇不可求。and i strongly believe in it.im not being bias to any nationalities, but TS,whether she's .sg .my .cn .vn or whrever she's from, marriage require 2 persons to work out. fairy-tales ends wif a 'happily-ever-after', it doesnt tells wats behind-closed-doors.

[nicta]

Consider continuing your studies part-time? sad as it is, it's really about the paper here. if it's not an option, i guess have to find someone earning the same amount as you? if they shun you after hearing what you work as, take it as a bullet dodged as these girls aren't the ones you want to marry.

[HCKing]

just to share some opinions for TS

1. 1st of all dun compare yr career or income with others. be open abt it when u get to know girls. the ones who are not materialistic will not be bothered with it and it takes time and luck to encounter such girls. so be patient.

2. get a private diploma and explore other career options. at yr age its still not too late to change career path. but again it takes time to build up a new career so if u really want to change be prepared to work hard.

3. dont rush to get married. only get married when both yr career and relationship are stable, if not stay single is still better. i see alot of ppl rushed to get married only ended up with more stress financially or emotionally.

and to your title question, there is no right income to get a wife. if the wife is good she will stay with u and make sure the marriage work. likewise you also have to do your part to make it work.

[AndyQQ]

every girl wants a good life.. why would someone with not bad qualities say yes to someone earning $1800 at 30s? This is a realistic world..The salary can't give them good life.. Perhaps you can focus on your earnings. Good quality girl wants someone with good career, interesting, caring, dotes on them & more.. That's why a lot of SG guys go for foreigners (China, viet, Thai etc)

[miguela]

just to share some opinions for TS

1. 1st of all dun compare yr career or income with others. be open abt it when u get to know girls. the ones who are not materialistic will not be bothered with it and it takes time and luck to encounter such girls. so be patient.

2. get a private diploma and explore other career options. at yr age its still not too late to change career path. but again it takes time to build up a new career so if u really want to change be prepared to work hard.

3. dont rush to get married. only get married when both yr career and relationship are stable, if not stay single is still better. i see alot of ppl rushed to get married only ended up with more stress financially or emotionally.

and to your title question, there is no right income to get a wife. if the wife is good she will stay with u and make sure the marriage work. likewise you also have to do your part to make it work.

bro, you sound like a learned man giving good advice. happy new year

[Datingafter35]

just to share some opinions for TS

1. 1st of all dun compare yr career or income with others. be open abt it when u get to know girls. the ones who are not materialistic will not be bothered with it and it takes time and luck to encounter such girls. so be patient.

2. get a private diploma and explore other career options. at yr age its still not too late to change career path. but again it takes time to build up a new career so if u really want to change be prepared to work hard.

3. dont rush to get married. only get married when both yr career and relationship are stable, if not stay single is still better. i see alot of ppl rushed to get married only ended up with more stress financially or emotionally.

and to your title question, there is no right income to get a wife. if the wife is good she will stay with u and make sure the marriage work. likewise you also have to do your part to make it work.

kudos.

Another thing to note about women is not all women are suitable for you.

You just need to find one that is attracted to your potential.

Potential to have resources.

Potential to be resourceful.

Passion. Have passion in your life. My passion is to make $500 a day trading Forex while getting my dick suck looking over the sea. I'm working towards this dream.

Wealth. I learn that is not about how much you make. It's how much you save. Having said that. Saving is not ideal as banks are paying peanuts less than 0.01% as compared to inflation 4%. Deposit in cpf or medisave is only ideal when it's money you can afford to give away.

Lastly invest in a course on how to understand women. And then invest in a hobby where women are plentiful like art, dancing and yoga.

If not learn how to make money online and move to Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam. At least that's my goal.

A man must be resourceful if he doesn't have resources. A man must have a healthy heart and mind if he doesn't have the resources.

Don't give up. I used to make $10k a month. Now I lost house. Lost car. Lost wife but never lose hope.

God bless.

ps. learn to sell if you want to make it big. For your own company or working for people. I'm learning to sell via Internet marketing. I want to scale. Climbing to 40 I'm learning how to write and type and hopefully be a published author.

[miguela]

kudos.

Another thing to note about women is not all women are suitable for you.

You just need to find one that is attracted to your potential.

Potential to have resources.

Potential to be resourceful.

Passion. Have passion in your life. My passion is to make $500 a day trading Forex while getting my dick suck looking over the sea. I'm working towards this dream.

Wealth. I learn that is not about how much you make. It's how much you save. Having said that. Saving is not ideal as banks are paying peanuts less than 0.01% as compared to inflation 4%. Deposit in cpf or medisave is only ideal when it's money you can afford to give away.

Lastly invest in a course on how to understand women. And then invest in a hobby where women are plentiful like art, dancing and yoga.

If not learn how to make money online and move to Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam. At least that's my goal.

A man must be resourceful if he doesn't have resources. A man must have a healthy heart and mind if he doesn't have the resources.

Don't give up. I used to make $10k a month. Now I lost house. Lost car. Lost wife but never lose hope.

God bless.

ps. learn to sell if you want to make it big. For your own company or working for people. I'm learning to sell via Internet marketing. I want to scale. Climbing to 40 I'm learning how to write and type and hopefully be a published author.

thank you for sharing

[Taisho75]

Oh mind!!! Ts have uheard that drivers can get $6k or 10k a month? Dun stuck at class 3 driving license. Go upgrade to class 5 then take crane license after that. You basically waste ur time liao. Anyway give urself another 2yrs to get those licenses. There is a demand for lorrycrane drivers or truck drivers. Chinamen are filling those positions, so why can't a singaporean?

Anyway $1800 is ok, I have a friend doing delivery. Earn only $1680 only and he "n" level only. Got a wife who earn $6k a month and they are happily married. Look hard, u will find ur partner who will stick thick and thin with u. U also must have the strive to go higher.

[gheun]

go to the skills future website and search for "crane". then use the free $500 to sign up for crane operator course.

http://www.skillsfuture.sg/credit

[iloveu1985]

Anyway $1800 is ok, I have a friend doing delivery. Earn only $1680 only and he "n" level only. Got a wife who earn $6k a month and they are happily married. Look hard, u will find ur partner who will stick thick and thin with u. U also must have the strive to go higher.

Guess the wife must be a 恐龙妹。。。哈哈哈。 After the first child maybe your friend can consider becoming a house husband taking care of the household. An average child care cost $1500/mth. Now everything is so expensive. In the future singapore will be like Japan which have 37% of the population in the age range of 35-39 not married. & 1 in 4 over 65 singles.

[maxsee]

It is quite understandable when the ladies cringe when u mention that you are a delivery driver...This has nothing to do with going thru thick and thin...It is about ur $1800 can barely feed urself...how are you going to start a family:confused:

And since ur education is O level...u should target someone around ur range as well...education plays a very huge part....thinking differences etc....

It is very very rare that a guy earning a low income will get to marry a high income lady unless u hand ur monthly salary to her and u are a "Yes" man to her.

Only way is to upgrade urself....or find someone within ur range.

U need to understand one very important aspect of why people get together...people chose to be attached coz it is better than when they are single....no one will want to be attach if their life are worse off than they are single.....Would u like it if ur spouse throw all their burden on ur shoulder:confused:

[topcook1]

Forget it ....remain single is still the best option...Remember this No money No Honey....

[hpanky]

Hi TS..
I do had a similar thread too regarding job title..
Ya it does bothering me too when come to meeting an old friend and have some chats..or pursuing a new relationship..The first few questions bound to be like..what are u doing now..what's your job etc..

I'm 40s and in another kind of driver..Gross Annual income is about 52k inclusive bonuses..full Cpf from employer.. and will be increasing yearly ...also with excellent benefits like insurance... annual leave about 17days...Medical even covers spouse and kids... and my other driver kakis is earnings more as they're longer in this line..But in the end our title still as driver.:)

[tuarfik]

no 5k above no talk

[sammyboyforumm]

Dear bros,

I am seeking your honest opinion on this.

I am in my mid thirties and find it extremely hard to get a date in singapore becasue of my career or lack of it.

I am currently a driver drawing a salary of $1800 and there are many women who seemed to get frightened away the moment i mention my job and career.

I am not pro China, vietnamese or women from other countries as I simply do not trust them. yes, chinese women are hotter than sg women without a doubt, yet i am not looking for a gf nor a fling but a wife.


Can i know what is the suitable salary for a men to get a date/wife at age 35/36 years old.

I am an o level graduate only. Though I had very good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels, I did not proceed to study A levels and university as my family is simply to poor at that point of time. My mum is sick and cannot work and my dad is retrenched so I had to start working immediately after O levels.

I am finding it so hard to get attached now. I am looking for women that are 29- 30 years old

With a salary of only $1800, i am afraid even china or vietnam women also not interested. You might need to explore more backward countries like myanmar or laos to look for a prospective wife. Good luck bro! I don't envy your position.

[Jimmyboss]

depend how you spend and your lifestyle, fugal lifestyle 2k can liao

[iceage]

The problem comes when the question is dropped:

"So what do you do for a living?"

I really cringe to reply to this - a delivery driver.

Almost immediately, I noticed the 180 degree change in their expression and i see them drawing big crosses on their paper on the slot with my name on.

They seemed so digusted with my job that they write me off immediately from their shortlist

From what you have written earlier, u have quite good results in O level. I would recommend you go for a part time diploma to upgrade your skills. This would help you to get a better paying job in the future.

Furthermore if you were to tell someone u r working as a delivery driver now but taking courses to improve yourself. I am sure the person would have a much better impression of you as a person.

Good luck.

[thomas]

No education is not an excuse bro. Upgrade urself etc. I dont look down on drivers but I duno y u want to be one. Make good use of Ur good looks. Be a salesman instead. I can guarantee u will earn better than a driver if u work hard.

[Ricky85]

Actually the ideal income for a man to get married is zero...that way you don't pay alimony! But jokes aside,the truth is that women will want to marry a higher earning giy, almost always and regardless of what they say. So what's the right income depends on who you are dating and how that person is financially placed.

[squiggle]

Each of the person in your family + you (daily expenses) that you need to feed all with the amount of 1k each, this will give you a rough total for that.

[lawry]

Actually the ideal income for a man to get married is zero...that way you don't pay alimony! But jokes aside,the truth is that women will want to marry a higher earning giy, almost always and regardless of what they say. So what's the right income depends on who you are dating and how that person is financially placed.

Men = hot sexy girl
Women = capable men

It's the human instinct. They want a comfort life. We want hot sexy partner.

The hotter you want the more she demands as competition increases.

So there are no amount to this. You want lesser expectation get a lesser partner.

Will you married a fat ugly and low income girl? 30 plus?

The opposite is the same. Why would a decently attractive young women stuck with a lowly educated. 1800 income guy?

1800 is really low. Any hard working person is able to draw 3 k and above.

[candle2000]

You still have many good years ahead. You about 35 years old.

My take:

1) With your good O levels result, go and enroll part-time at the Polys.
Choose a course you like and it would be easier to study.

2) Change job once you graduated from the Poly. Study hard at the Poly
and with good GPA, can enroll into the University (full time or part-time)

3) Try hard to save while studying. Avoiding unnecessary spending like
spa.

4) If you persevere 5 to 8 years during study and manage to get a local U
degree, at 40 to 43 years you still at your prime and you must continue
maintain your looks with dieting and exercising.

From my experience, older single women ( 30 years and above) cares a great deal about a man academics qualifications. Once you have a poly diploma or u degree, you can cast your net farther to select your future spouse.

[candle2000]

What is the right income to get a SG wife ?

That is no such thing as "right income" to get marry. If both parties willing to sacrifices and love each other, a take home combined nett salaries of 2K is enough to maintain 2 of you and a 3 room HDB flat. If one junior comes along soon, family nett income of 3.5K is the minimal.

[maxsee]

2K net salary for both person is not practical...u would really be living in hardship...3.5k with baby...u might as well not give birth...kid would lack a lot of things and more suffering....

If u want a sg wife...i think minimum u earn 5k bah...unless u find those really lazy kind that dun mind u earn very low salary...

Otherwise better off to look foreigners that live in rural areas...End of the day...everyone get married to have a better life....no one will get married to have a worse life than they are currently having....

If u want someone to be with u when u can hardly feed urself...it shows how much u love her...

Lastly...there is only so far love can carry both of u...we are living in the real world...bread and butter is a realistic issue that we need to face...:D

[Datingafter35]

2K net salary for both person is not practical...u would really be living in hardship...3.5k with baby...u might as well not give birth...kid would lack a lot of things and more suffering....

If u want a sg wife...i think minimum u earn 5k bah...unless u find those really lazy kind that dun mind u earn very low salary...

Otherwise better off to look foreigners that live in rural areas...End of the day...everyone get married to have a better life....no one will get married to have a worse life than they are currently having....

If u want someone to be with u when u can hardly feed urself...it shows how much u love her...

Lastly...there is only so far love can carry both of u...we are living in the real world...bread and butter is a realistic issue that we need to face...:D

I think you need at leas $2.5k.
Get a house first. Who wants a man who can't even have a house?

House buy is cheap. Don't been choosy. ground floor or 2nd floor. 200k or 300k 10% cpf, 5% cash.

can get

I'm making less than $2k but it's in US dollar. So moving to Thailand.

[ibanezjem555]

Bro TS,

Answer: Never enough.

Don't be too fixated at marriage. Focus on expanding your horizons.

35 is still young as long young at heart. Open your mind and don't limit yourself. Parachutes work best when open.Parachute yourself into another job.

Your O level sounds good, and you seem to be willing to learn. Download GPS and use it to drive fix routes to get feel. Then, parachute to next job.
Grab & Uber easily double your pay after paying for car and petrol.

On side income, can do a bit of freelance.

All the Best Bro. :cool:

[Xyberduke]

It is simply your expectations that prevents you from getting a date. No matter your profession or salary, as long as you set your target below you own status, you will find a date. And both work towards a future.

If the gal expects a house or for you to have a high paying job, look elsewhere. SG is not as bad as you think.

[MoeLanYong]

I am not good in direction so no taxi/grab/uber for me. I currently only drive fixed routes so i can perform my job relatively well

Please advise

TS,
You sound like a good guy. Just a bit laid back.

Here's a simple suggestion. Do what you do best. Drive. Tell yourself you can do Uber/grab. Learn to use Google map. This is the easiest path to upgrade.

On the love front, there are nice ladies out there if you are not fussy. Not every girl looks at income. Good luck!

[smile_santa]

Hi TS,

My advice to you now is also to learn how to navigate the gps properly and increase your income through Uber/Grab.

Some have also mentioned getting a diploma etc but in my opinion it's not the best option. Problem is firstly by the time you graduate, the fastest you will take is 2-3 years. By then, at your age it's also very hard to get employed with no prior experience related to your course of study. Not impossible, but alot of prospective employers always want to hire younger employees because they are deemed more "hungry", energetic and more in tune with current market trend.

Another way to increase your income is to do what another bro said, learn the art of sales. A sales job is probably one that you can join without much experience. BUt again, not everyone is cut out for sales. Since I dont know you personally, only you can decide if its the best option.

Sadly, almost 99% of singaporean girls are practical and will mind what your job and income is. But like many here have mentioned, its just the way it is. Nobody will look to marry worst off. Even if you are a great guy, our society and way of living here has already shaped their mindsets. In other countries such as vietnam, thailand or laos, there is no shame being a driver because even jobs are hard to come by so as long as a man is willing to work hard and provide for them, they are satisfied. There may still be that 1% out there which wont mind your career or your income, but i'm pretty sure you won't find them in speed-dating.

Lastly, I wish you the best of luck in your quest for love. Don't give up but don't feel to disheartened. Make more new friends during this period because a good bro will always be there for you.

[hil169]

I heard many cases that marriage will get you short term happiness and long term sadness. Will you still marry despite that?

[legnaznov]

I heard many cases that marriage will get you short term happiness and long term sadness. Will you still marry despite that?

Sadly, this is true.

[packrotten]

Yes, you're right I agree with you bro toopcock.
Just work hard and then invest more money, after that, you found the best wife to you.

[scamwatch]

With yr looks, i have a feeling you will really succeed as a insurance salesman

[Canoneos]

Girls are not just after money. They want someone interesting, intelligent, funny, motivated, kind, great potential, etc.

So what have you got to offer? Nothing wrong with being a delivery driver. It is an honest living. But what's your future?

Who can blame a girl who thinks that you cannot stimulate them intellectually. After driving all day what are you going to talk to them about? It's not always about money.

The other thing is what type of girl are you after? You need to play in your own league. If you play Division 3, don't expect to go hunting in the Premier League.

[Tomokashi]

Is never too late to learn and pick up skills. Getting a wife also means that you need stability in your financial portfolio, ie; getting a flat or babies, those need $

You should enhance your job opportunities and searching for gf at the same thing to save time.

http://www.ntuclearninghub.com/Skillsfuture/successful-career-change-40-begin/

[SnowLeopards]

My time in Singapore has brought me to know some married Singaporean women.

Oh boy, and 70% of them cheats on their husband. :D

Pierre.

[hil169]

My time in Singapore has brought me to know some married Singaporean women.

Oh boy, and 70% of them cheats on their husband. :D

Pierre.

please share your encounters, bro. thanks.

[Ngengheng]

My time in Singapore has brought me to know some married Singaporean women.

Oh boy, and 70% of them cheats on their husband. :D

Pierre.

Agree !! I seen so many cheating wives . Even my bff also .... Really have no guts to marry .

[porscheclub]

A marriage is only good if one wants to start a family.

Having an income below $3000 now will be a struggle for all involved so unless you want children then better have a plan to earn much more. Otherwise, stick to bachelorhood which all of us envy and no nagging women!

Scoring well in O levels has taught you nothing & having good looks wasted. I have to be blunt here as many Singaporeans think too highly of themselves. Please travel around the region; not as a tourist but one who goes down to earth and understand that poverty drives people to succeed. Learn to feed the hunger to survive then look for comfort later.

First of all learn how to navigate. The Sun always rises from the East & study maps plus we have so many apps these days. How to conquer a woman's heart when you can't even read the roads?

[JacqueMerlin]

blessing in disguise to be rejected by these women.
don't rush into a relationship. don't confine your relationship by nationality or race.

[JacqueMerlin]

Agree !! I seen so many cheating wives . Even my bff also .... Really have no guts to marry .

yeah... then get owned but the WC. no way!

[iluvbreast]

A marriage is only good if one wants to start a family... How to conquer a woman's heart when you can't even read the roads?

Let me rant a bit also.

To TS, no doubt you were a good kid who stopped school to support your family when needed to.

And you claim to be able to study well given your good Os, and your good looks by being able to model, so you have had a decent income in your younger days.

But so what??

From your post I deduce, you are still very comfortable in your current lifestyle, you don't see the need to change.

Congratulations, because you are satisfied with monthly salary of $1,800. For me I cannot accept that because if I used to make 3k-4k a month (like you mentioned in your younger days), I would definitely not accept lower pay and try to make do.

Similarly, when you wish to start a family, naturally your expenses goes up and it is different for everyone. You should not be asking this question in the first place.

To be blunt, I can only say that you still think like a 16 year-old, spare yourself the problem, just stay single.

[Sunrising]

S$300,000 yearly

[Greenfrog]

Girls are not just after money. They want someone interesting, intelligent, funny, motivated, kind, great potential, etc.

So what have you got to offer? Nothing wrong with being a delivery driver. It is an honest living. But what's your future?

Who can blame a girl who thinks that you cannot stimulate them intellectually. After driving all day what are you going to talk to them about? It's not always about money.

The other thing is what type of girl are you after? You need to play in your own league. If you play Division 3, don't expect to go hunting in the Premier League.

a lot of times, Division 3 girls will think and act like premier league girls.
Division 3 girls can more materialistic than you think

[Ladyrain]

Girls are not just after money. They want someone interesting, intelligent, funny, motivated, kind, great potential, etc.

So what have you got to offer? Nothing wrong with being a delivery driver. It is an honest living. But what's your future?

Who can blame a girl who thinks that you cannot stimulate them intellectually. After driving all day what are you going to talk to them about? It's not always about money.

The other thing is what type of girl are you after? You need to play in your own league. If you play Division 3, don't expect to go hunting in the Premier League.

Wisdom... 👍

[jabwemet]

Yeah agree with most of the posts here..
it's not all about the money. Just from the posts, u seem like a playa (talking about your looks, getting a woman's attention ) but without the $$$ to back up.. hard (not impossible!!). With your lack of motivation to earn more and shallowness (forgive me if you don't think a woman's looks matters in your choice).", you're sadly under equipped. Ur mentally hard to get a city gal with high eq. U needs to aim those kampung gals type. So basically all those VN, CN , siambu gals u kinda looked down on earlier on. U got kampung mentality.. u get the kampung girls!
P.S the kampung girls.. not looking down on you! I fee your love sometimes very pure!

[justl00king]

U dun need the right income, just get a rich wife :eek::cool:

[ShaTinGaoKia]

U dun need the right income, just get a rich wife :eek::cool:

Rich but manly like Ho Jinx? :eek: :D

[justl00king]

Rich but manly like Ho Jinx? :eek: :D
Cover the face...fire the base? :eek: :D

[Datingafter35]

plump girls / fleshy mature women are literally single.

have you tried okc? dress well and ask. prc working in kopitiam are not bad either. They are at least decent.

I've been to vice too many times and I'm worried too.

[Datingafter35]

I've been in Singapore for 38 years. I learned that having enough cpf to pull through the housing loan is one factor.

having the first 15% for a resale flat at cheap district like Jurong West, Woodlands and Yishun is good.

Forget the east if you lack cash. Forget the old buildings like outtram Park.

[improper]

Try to improve your skills. If you are not academically inclined, you can still learn skills to become an electrician that can be quite profitable if you are fl.

[Belt]

Rich but manly like Ho Jinx? :eek: :D

bro just off the light can lao ... as long as she is horny :D

To TS, u r in your comfortable working zone of getting 1800/month but want a SG wife, and set so many limitations of your choices ... u r living in the dream only. Take some action to upgrade yourself and target to get $3000/month or more, you sure can attract decent SG ladies.

[sixnine696900]

TS,
Getting a girl is much easier than keeping the girl.
another bro here wrote, find a girl with more EQ not more IQ. Maybe just maybe she might want to be with you.

cheers.

[bastardball]

No point how much u draw...by mth end she will draw it down to zero :D

[strikeback4]

Important is chemistry, if you get a wife working also its good for you

If you get a bottomless pit, no matter how much you earn, she will spend it all away

[sixnine696900]

Hi bro,
Singapore wife or supporting a wife in Singapore???:eek:
I hear to support a wife in Singapore is about S$3000 for her lah...
My client's wife who is living in Indonesia, is quite happy holding S$500 a month, as she gets a driver and maid and go the salon and spa 3 times a week and get to play golf every weekends.

Even in Singapore at S$5000, women can barely to afford all those nice thing a month...:eek:
Is not about the girl whom you want to marry, but the living standard in the place you live.

Cheers.

[strikeback4]

what wives in singapore refuse to earn their own money to pay for salon and golfing themselves....if so then thats because sing men have allowed these women to feel they entitled to these LUXURIES without having to earn it themselves

That 1 not call wives liao, they are all gold diggers

[strikeback4]

i think you are mistaken with the term gold digger as that implies they digging ie working to get their gold, at least cook and clean and service their husbands in order to get the good living, in the previous example, sit around go to spa play golf have maid and driver and still expect a 5k allowance....thats not working, i think calling them gold digger is far to generous

LOL I like to way you berate them :D

[sexoholic]

It is not so much about supporting a Wife. As Long as both are gainfully employed, surviving as a couple is as cheap as surviving as 2 individuals.

The problem comes with starting a family. How much does one think his family needs to get by every month? That is the income one must achieve before starting one. It is up to the individual what is enough.

It is hard for one to deny the children what MOST other kids have.

[strikeback4]

It is not so much about supporting a Wife. As Long as both are gainfully employed, surviving as a couple is as cheap as surviving as 2 individuals.

The problem comes with starting a family. How much does one think his family needs to get by every month? That is the income one must achieve before starting one. It is up to the individual what is enough.

It is hard for one to deny the children what MOST other kids have.

Without a child, Husband will pamper the wife

with a child, the wife will willing to sacrifice some pampering (eg. make up skin care shopping) to pamper the child

[squiggle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rZ0LNIkhs

[strikeback4]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rZ0LNIkhs

Ya totally agree, don't have too much expectation if you want a simple girl

[chaone]

Ya totally agree, don't have too much expectation if you want a simple girl

Agree with you

[sixnine696900]

what wives in singapore refuse to earn their own money to pay for salon and golfing themselves....

Really!!!!:eek::eek: you mean ALL singapore women prefer to work compare to a stay home wife....:confused:
You sure or not.....

Cheers.

[strikeback4]

Really!!!!:eek::eek: you mean ALL singapore women prefer to work compare to a stay home wife....:confused:
You sure or not.....

Cheers.

Recently there is 1 classic case going around FB and social media, I will post it here as a references

https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/tag/gold-digger

There are those who are willing to be part of the family and work and stuff

Than there are those who want to be princess waiting for their prince charming to "sponser" them

[luanluanlai]

Really!!!!:eek::eek: you mean ALL singapore women prefer to work compare to a stay home wife....:confused:
You sure or not.....

Cheers.

Most of the SG women prefer to earn and spend their own income than asking handout. There's a saying.... their husband money belong to the wife, wife money belong to herself.... double income :)

[rugalsc]

I thought girls like to be housewives? Home mortgage the husband 100% settle?

[strikeback4]

I thought girls like to be housewives? Home mortgage the husband 100% settle?

Wrong, most girls don't like to be housewives, given the opportunity they want to be tai tai

[bastardball]

by quoting that saying, you have contradicted yourself by saying that wife spends her own money, if that was the case she wouldnt consider her husbands money her own, so eg she earns 10 dollar her husband earns 100 dollars, she goes and spend 50 dollars on spa and golfing, still claim to be spending her own money no need for handouts?

Allow.me to clarify...woman in general wants to earn their own money cause they to be independent n dun wish to be at the mercy of their partner. Having said that, tbey can exercise certain congrols like when to have sex etc. But women certainky dont mind a man to pamper them to pay for things n also provide allowance, gifts pay for bills etc n take them to nice places to enjoy. Whats thrir mo ey is theirs n what is yours is also theirs. Women needs love, sense of security, shopping...enuf said

[I Love Boobs]

Wrong, most girls don't like to be housewives, given the opportunity they want to be tai tai

They don't want to work.
They'll get a maid to do housework and cooking.
And deny you sex.
Spend all your hard earned money.
You might as well marry the maid

[peanodood1337]

Wow dude thread necromancy. This was from 2017. But hey its an interesting topic. So here are my 2cts.

Dear bros,

I am seeking your honest opinion on this.

I am in my mid thirties and find it extremely hard to get a date in singapore becasue of my career or lack of it.

I am currently a driver drawing a salary of $1800 and there are many women who seemed to get frightened away the moment i mention my job and career.

I am not pro China, vietnamese or women from other countries as I simply do not trust them. yes, chinese women are hotter than sg women without a doubt, yet i am not looking for a gf nor a fling but a wife.


Can i know what is the suitable salary for a men to get a date/wife at age 35/36 years old.

I am an o level graduate only. Though I had very good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels, I did not proceed to study A levels and university as my family is simply to poor at that point of time. My mum is sick and cannot work and my dad is retrenched so I had to start working immediately after O levels.

I am finding it so hard to get attached now. I am looking for women that are 29- 30 years old

TS sounds like a sincere sort of guy. But let's get real. A $1800/mth salary is on the lower end of the scale. If he was finding it hard to get attached on that salary, it was probably because he was trying to date the wrong kind of women.

Mind you, there is nothing wrong with drawing a low salary. But you shouldn't expect to kill Godzilla with a pistol. There are definitely nice, non-materialistic, down-to-earth ladies out there. That said, chances are those prospects are already snapped up and accounted for.

So what can a bro do in these situations?

1. Always keep trying to improve yourself.

2. Always keep your chin up and maintain a positive attitude.

3. Ask yourself what you really want out of life? What kind of prospective partners should you be looking out for? Remember, physical beauty fades in time. But a good heart is eternal.

Good luck.

[leong26]

In most cases , if we men are willing to lower our own expectations to find a local Singaporean partner it is not a impossible . i take a example , our malay brothers compare to our chinese brothers , how often do we see our malay bros go looking for foreign mates ? All my local malays friends , colleages which i know all married to a Singaporean wife not 1 with a foreign wife , compared to the Chinese more than half are with foreign partner mostly malaysian wife . are Singaporean chabor that difficult to court ?
I don't think so la , it's our own problems , we want swee want cheap want tua liap nee , where got such thing ..haiz..

[Marq]

Old thread, but still relevant I guess

True with a salary of <$2k in your mid thirties is low, and it is probably harder to date an average SG girl who should be earning >$3k at that age, but its not impossible

To be brutally honest, you can definitely find a job that pays more that $1.8k, just a matter of how bad you want to improve your financial situation. Hawkers don't mind pay more than $2k for helpers, many sales jobs don't need your qualifications, etc.

So help yourself first before thinking SG girls despise you

[ilovepantyhose]

In most cases , if we men are willing to lower our own expectations to find a local Singaporean partner it is not a impossible . i take a example , our malay brothers compare to our chinese brothers , how often do we see our malay bros go looking for foreign mates ? All my local malays friends , colleages which i know all married to a Singaporean wife not 1 with a foreign wife , compared to the Chinese more than half are with foreign partner mostly malaysian wife . are Singaporean chabor that difficult to court ?
I don't think so la , it's our own problems , we want swee want cheap want tua liap nee , where got such thing ..haiz..

local chinese tend to be:
kiasu kiasi
like to compare/compete/go one-up 人比人气死人
want alot of face/thin-skinned
more judgemental of others
less happy go lucky
uses income/status to gain high ground
like to haolian via job/condo/car/branded stuff

the harsh reality is that for guys who do not have higher education or earn high income, they are less desirable as a spouse/partner. women who are willing to marry down/go through hardships with her partner are few and far between. as a result, some men have to marry foreign brides, where the brides may be seeking a better life elsewhere than their home country.

life is easier with money :o


that being said, ts can consider two options:

option 1: upgrade yourself. the society we are in looks at paper qualification with respect to job hunting. go for a diploma, equip yourself with new skills, secure a new job which pays higher. aim for median income level in the short-mid term, upgrade to degree if u want to earn higher salary in the long term

option 2: find jobs that pay commission. do note that u have to invest alot of time and effort in the job, some may bear fruit some may not, just have to keep at it.

when u are earning a higher income, set aside 2 portions, one to save, the other to invest. u can enjoy the fruits upon retirement

don't spend beyond your means, spend on what u need not what u want

don't keep up with the joneses, u end up spending on things u don't need, to impress the people u don't like :p

if u have credit card, use it prudently, because one can get into deep shit because of uncontrolled swiping and the snowballing of debt

[Pictionary]

local chinese tend to be:
kiasu kiasi
like to compare/compete/go one-up 人比人气死人
want alot of face/thin-skinned
more judgemental of others
less happy go lucky
uses income/status to gain high ground
like to haolian via job/condo/car/branded stuff

the harsh reality is that for guys who do not have higher education or earn high income, they are less desirable as a spouse/partner. women who are willing to marry down/go through hardships with her partner are few and far between. as a result, some men have to marry foreign brides, where the brides may be seeking a better life elsewhere than their home country.

life is easier with money :o


that being said, ts can consider two options:

option 1: upgrade yourself. the society we are in looks at paper qualification with respect to job hunting. go for a diploma, equip yourself with new skills, secure a new job which pays higher. aim for median income level in the short-mid term, upgrade to degree if u want to earn higher salary in the long term

option 2: find jobs that pay commission. do note that u have to invest alot of time and effort in the job, some may bear fruit some may not, just have to keep at it.

when u are earning a higher income, set aside 2 portions, one to save, the other to invest. u can enjoy the fruits upon retirement

don't spend beyond your means, spend on what u need not what u want

don't keep up with the joneses, u end up spending on things u don't need, to impress the people u don't like :p

if u have credit card, use it prudently, because one can get into deep shit because of uncontrolled swiping and the snowballing of debt
I dun think i want to say local chinese no good or whatever. Some foreigners and some malays, they are not what they seem to be, looks can be deceiving. If u dun mix with them and get to know them very well, best is keep a distance from them.

Assumption saying malay is good this and that. Then how well u know them? Anyway in depth race topics try not to reply or discuss with me, i will not reply further any of this as it is very sensitive.

Do not compare with other races and try to copy what they do. U cannot change the color of your skin and no need to drastically change yourself to suit others, just be yourself.

[expatamerican]

Lack of education shouldn't be a reason to give up. My GF is 33, didn't even finish high school, got pregnant at 16, became a single mom and raised and supported her daughter on jobs paying as little as $800/month when she was just 18. Now she works in a large MNC tech company making $10K per month at age 33. With no additional education. Do you think your life and opportunities are less than hers? Go out, be a man, make some money and then women will find you attractive. The fact is nobody wants someone making less than 2K per month in Singapore, especially someone over 30.

[tiffanytan]

Lack of education shouldn't be a reason to give up. My GF is 33, didn't even finish high school, got pregnant at 16, became a single mom and raised and supported her daughter on jobs paying as little as $800/month when she was just 18. Now she works in a large MNC tech company making $10K per month at age 33. With no additional education. Do you think your life and opportunities are less than hers? Go out, be a man, make some money and then women will find you attractive. The fact is nobody wants someone making less than 2K per month in Singapore, especially someone over 30.

Have to give your girlfriend *claps* it’s definitely not easy
She’s amazing and beautiful despite being a single mum

Nowadays girls are capable and smart, they want someone same level as them too.. If it’s lower, also not too far off..

Maybe guys can think it this way “if you are a girl, will you ever want to date a guy like yourself?”

I believe “If you have the will, you'll find a way”

Fighting!!!

[sexresearcher]

Sorry TS but if you throw a stone at woman this age range, they are most likely more highly paid than you. If you are them, what do you think?

This is a pretty fucked up high cost place to be so you have to either find a higher paying job or like some others, time to upgrade. If you claim to be book smart like what your O Level says, upgrading is not a hard thing to do or at least get a diploma.

You are not too old to pursue higher learning and definitely will not lose out if you have the will to do so. It's better than sulking at your current situation and hope for the best. Do something about it and all the best.

2 cents worth of advice.....since I also drew $1,800 per month before

[I Love Boobs]

Lack of education shouldn't be a reason to give up. My GF is 33, didn't even finish high school, got pregnant at 16, became a single mom and raised and supported her daughter on jobs paying as little as $800/month when she was just 18. Now she works in a large MNC tech company making $10K per month at age 33. With no additional education. Do you think your life and opportunities are less than hers? Go out, be a man, make some money and then women will find you attractive. The fact is nobody wants someone making less than 2K per month in Singapore, especially someone over 30.

Must have fucked her way to the top...

[lazyguy]

Must have fucked her way to the top...

Bro dun so honest lah. Haha.

Anyway just joking maybe she capable.

I saw alot of gal with just n, o level or it's earning that much. Just for a case, one of my friend colleague work in this firm doing cases. In order to get more cases need to know the workshop. She just fling with the boss lor. Alot of cases for her. In the end she come out to open her own business. Living in a semi de now. Her one month income 30k plus. Her husband know what she done but he just accept lor.

[vyr282]

Just have the right heart and right approach

[M45Singapore]

Nothing is enough for these

[enzyme]

Just have the right heart and right approach

Quite agree with what you said.

Enough or not enough is depend on us. If this is the best we can do to earn and they are still not satisfied then have to let go. No happiness in it.

If there are things we can do to improve then we should be giving them a better life.

Asking them to be contented with what we are willing to provide now is fruitless.

[178noobnoob]

I believe there is no fix amount on income.
Depending on your lifestyle and spending habits.

[Tai_zi21]

I believe there is no fix amount on income.
Depending on your lifestyle and spending habits.

Agreed with what u mention over here... u Wan go nice holiday,drive nice car have condo of cos u need a big fat pay cheque... and there is no right income to get a SG Wife,the ques is she willing to suffer thorough the bad time with you and enjoy with you the good times later on? :)

[millibargold]

Bro dun so honest lah. Haha.

Anyway just joking maybe she capable.

I saw alot of gal with just n, o level or it's earning that much. Just for a case, one of my friend colleague work in this firm doing cases. In order to get more cases need to know the workshop. She just fling with the boss lor. Alot of cases for her. In the end she come out to open her own business. Living in a semi de now. Her one month income 30k plus. Her husband know what she done but he just accept lor.

With this type of income I also will accept lor :D

[devildick]

Millions of dollars

[Kenmi]

If the girl before had a luxury life, it would cost millions.

If the girl seldom go for holidays or buy branded, start working at the age of 17-18, no clubbing, the cost will be lower alot.

[bignehneh]

As an old man, wanted to share some of my personal learnings

1. Education is extremely important although a lot is about wayang. Some phds are kumgong in real life. Never step out of their small lab. EQ extremely low but ppl still look up to them. I have seen super street smart ppl without cert, most ppl look down on them

2. It is about career. Don’t start with driving as a career. There is no career progression. Some of my friend who cannot make it in school went to do sales, property or any selling job. As long as you can create value for the company, you are good. Many of them become directors for big companies

3. Continue to get that piece of paper. Got a few overseas school easy to get degree. Any cock school is good as long as it is recognised. Some of my director friends who did badly in school just get 1 chapalang degree can liao.

4. When you have working experience, employers look at how you can contribute as compared to your chapalang degree. It is there to supplement

Back to women.

1. For those highly educated ones (earning $10k to $20k a month), they want more than sex. You must be able to converse well, give them surprises, can cook, must be presentation to their friends, must plan holiday well etc...being horny alone will get eliminated

2. For typical women, they want someone presentation. They rather have a doctor/ lawyer than earn $10k a month compared to one cha kway tiao seller that earns $30k a month. This kind easier to show to parents and relatives.

Usually good women (not fussy about pay, kind hearted) are all taken very early liao. Those not taken ones at the age of 35 usually listed in my above 2 categories.

[afterburn]

Usually good women (not fussy about pay, kind hearted) are all taken very early liao. Those not taken ones at the age of 35 usually listed in my above 2 categories.

:D Good analysis and summary.

Wonder if the men also have such categories.

[devildick]

How much money do you think it would take to get an f-cup Singaporean Chinese FL to be your Long-term gal friend or even Wife?

Especially if she is a ceo’s Sales PA

[vader8847]

Dear bros,

I am seeking your honest opinion on this.

I am in my mid thirties and find it extremely hard to get a date in singapore becasue of my career or lack of it.

I am currently a driver drawing a salary of $1800 and there are many women who seemed to get frightened away the moment i mention my job and career.

I am not pro China, vietnamese or women from other countries as I simply do not trust them. yes, chinese women are hotter than sg women without a doubt, yet i am not looking for a gf nor a fling but a wife.

Can i know what is the suitable salary for a men to get a date/wife at age 35/36 years old.

I am an o level graduate only. Though I had very good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels, I did not proceed to study A levels and university as my family is simply to poor at that point of time. My mum is sick and cannot work and my dad is retrenched so I had to start working immediately after O levels.

I am finding it so hard to get attached now. I am looking for women that are 29- 30 years old

You should get government grant through MP recommendation or our Chinese chamber association to help you for your study when young.

You have wasted your good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels ).

Now you can study part-time diploma 1st

[LordVader]

Dear bros,

I am seeking your honest opinion on this.

I am in my mid thirties and find it extremely hard to get a date in singapore becasue of my career or lack of it.

I am currently a driver drawing a salary of $1800 and there are many women who seemed to get frightened away the moment i mention my job and career.

I am not pro China, vietnamese or women from other countries as I simply do not trust them. yes, chinese women are hotter than sg women without a doubt, yet i am not looking for a gf nor a fling but a wife.


Can i know what is the suitable salary for a men to get a date/wife at age 35/36 years old.

I am an o level graduate only. Though I had very good academic results (8 A1s and 1 A2) for O levels, I did not proceed to study A levels and university as my family is simply to poor at that point of time. My mum is sick and cannot work and my dad is retrenched so I had to start working immediately after O levels.

I am finding it so hard to get attached now. I am looking for women that are 29- 30 years old

I started full time employment in my early 30s. Wasted my 20s in some other ways. Granted I have a leg up cos I had my degree.

What I am trying to say is, you need to upgrade your paper, as what some of the bros here are saying.

Also perhaps you can see what interests you?
You mentioned you were a model.
Is there something along the modeling line that you think could put you a leg up to earn some money?
A trainer for up and coming models?
A photographer?
Videographer?

I not familiar with modeling business but you yourself would know better.

There are always many ways to make more money.

[EatPrayLove]

Hi TS,

Just to share my personal story with you.

I got my diploma 10 years ago when I was near to my 30s.
I went through WDA to get my diploma and back then it was with 90% funding from them. I did badly for my O levels and that's why I didn't continue my studies back then. I know WDA still funding for local citizens but it's up to 75% but better than nothing right? With your modelling background, why don't consider going into media, marketing or advertising job? (Just a suggestion)

Honestly, if you yourself look down on your choice of career, your lack of confidence is what really turns ladies off. You can be anything in this world, but once you look on your own job/career, you will never be contented at all. Take for example my fiance, he is in the construction line in his country. But he is never ashamed of it. In fact, it is his dream job to do what he is doing. My point is, firstly, you need to learn what you are good at doing. Secondly, you need to love it and be passionate about it. And lastly, be so good at doing it. First, you need to build up your own confidence in terms of work/ job you choose before anything else. Once you have the confidence, everything else will fall into place. It took me 30 years of my life to finally found what I am damn good at and so passionate about it. And it took me a few years to get to where I am now. Recently, I did the risk and jump into a fairly new but definitely growing company as a entry level. No complains about it. Lower level but I got the same pay. Why? Because I am experienced and has been in this industry for years. Oh, by the way, I got hired based on my experience not my education. It's never too old to learn and never too old to start a totally new career. We are definitely so blessed to have so many opportunities in our country compared to other developed countries.

[eatingpussy]

Just sharing my experience on dating apps and websites. Tried looking Local Chinese ladies, late 40 till 55. I'm 48. OK looks, overweight. First they ask yr profession then pay. I always say I'm a driver, pay $2.5k no car. Then they just stop messaging. Imagine 55 years old woman still looks down on a $2.5k salary, just let these unrealistic old woman die alone. On the contrary I get lots of attention from foreign workers, maids, young and pretty. They just want company and some love. As long you treat them nice, don't need expensive lunch, food court/fast food is OK. Give them your time and take them shopping (simple items not Coach, Michael Kors) and they are truely happy.I Rather spend my time n money on someone younger n prettier, then trying to please old local Chinese aunties/some ah ma already. I've given up on looking for local ladies, they are still looking for mates at this age because they are too picky.

[thaichiongster]

I think no fixed amount or it. As long can provide her needs and she can have some for her leisure. I think should ok.

[fallen11]

Just sharing my experience on dating apps and websites. Tried looking Local Chinese ladies, late 40 till 55. I'm 48. OK looks, overweight. First they ask yr profession then pay. I always say I'm a driver, pay $2.5k no car. Then they just stop messaging. Imagine 55 years old woman still looks down on a $2.5k salary, just let these unrealistic old woman die alone. On the contrary I get lots of attention from foreign workers, maids, young and pretty. They just want company and some love. As long you treat them nice, don't need expensive lunch, food court/fast food is OK. Give them your time and take them shopping (simple items not Coach, Michael Kors) and they are truely happy.I Rather spend my time n money on someone younger n prettier, then trying to please old local Chinese aunties/some ah ma already. I've given up on looking for local ladies, they are still looking for mates at this age because they are too picky.

My fren have a vietnam gf. He told her his salary only S$3k a month (disposable income is 1k after deducting house, parents, etc) and he never help to pay anything for her. Even when she come sg to visit also ownself pay. She making only S$1k a month in hcmc and age gap of 10 years. :D

[eatingpussy]

My fren have a vietnam gf. He told her his salary only S$3k a month (disposable income is 1k after deducting house, parents, etc) and he never help to pay anything for her. Even when she come sg to visit also ownself pay. She making only S$1k a month in hcmc and age gap of 10 years. :D
They hope to get marriage here so they can have a better life, Vietnamese women are hardworking and dont mind working to help the family. Those old Singaporean woman want to marry a rich man so she can dont work, why marry a salary man and still continue working. Dont bother with picky old Singapore woman. Lazy and take men for granted.

[bignehneh]

How much money do you think it would take to get an f-cup Singaporean Chinese FL to be your Long-term gal friend or even Wife?

Especially if she is a ceo’s Sales PA

$20k la. Also depending on whether she is those humble type or spendthrift type. During one of my overseas posting, I know one PA of a CEO. Quite steady. Has a few property and every day drink red wine. Lol! When I know her, machiam every day leech on her. Free food and free drinks. Lol! Also can stay overnight at a few property.

[bignehneh]

Just sharing my experience on dating apps and websites. Tried looking Local Chinese ladies, late 40 till 55. I'm 48. OK looks, overweight. First they ask yr profession then pay. I always say I'm a driver, pay $2.5k no car. Then they just stop messaging. Imagine 55 years old woman still looks down on a $2.5k salary, just let these unrealistic old woman die alone. On the contrary I get lots of attention from foreign workers, maids, young and pretty. They just want company and some love. As long you treat them nice, don't need expensive lunch, food court/fast food is OK. Give them your time and take them shopping (simple items not Coach, Michael Kors) and they are truely happy.I Rather spend my time n money on someone younger n prettier, then trying to please old local Chinese aunties/some ah ma already. I've given up on looking for local ladies, they are still looking for mates at this age because they are too picky.

Can’t compare la bro. I have a few highly educated female friends. Some of them drove fancy car like Maserati, Ferrari, Bentley. They are not Hao Lian as sometimes they take MRT too. Occasionally they give ppl a ride home in their fancy car if they drive.

They are happy to stay single (seriously don’t know whether they are horny or not). But they love to have conversations and discussions over various topics. Don’t mind joining for short trips etc. Buying ppl lunches/ dinner. Avoid those who ask for occupation and pay directly. Lol!

[YELLOW]

Well said !!!


Hi TS,

Just to share my personal story with you.

I got my diploma 10 years ago when I was near to my 30s.
I went through WDA to get my diploma and back then it was with 90% funding from them. I did badly for my O levels and that's why I didn't continue my studies back then. I know WDA still funding for local citizens but it's up to 75% but better than nothing right? With your modelling background, why don't consider going into media, marketing or advertising job? (Just a suggestion)

Honestly, if you yourself look down on your choice of career, your lack of confidence is what really turns ladies off. You can be anything in this world, but once you look on your own job/career, you will never be contented at all. Take for example my fiance, he is in the construction line in his country. But he is never ashamed of it. In fact, it is his dream job to do what he is doing. My point is, firstly, you need to learn what you are good at doing. Secondly, you need to love it and be passionate about it. And lastly, be so good at doing it. First, you need to build up your own confidence in terms of work/ job you choose before anything else. Once you have the confidence, everything else will fall into place. It took me 30 years of my life to finally found what I am damn good at and so passionate about it. And it took me a few years to get to where I am now. Recently, I did the risk and jump into a fairly new but definitely growing company as a entry level. No complains about it. Lower level but I got the same pay. Why? Because I am experienced and has been in this industry for years. Oh, by the way, I got hired based on my experience not my education. It's never too old to learn and never too old to start a totally new career. We are definitely so blessed to have so many opportunities in our country compared to other developed countries.

[devilndemon]

Interesting thread and I like to share a few pointers from my own experience.

I am gg 37 this year. I started my careervery late (@32 years old) compared to my peers. I will spare the long details, just that my family was in Financial troubles when I was 18, everything got delayed. I was drifting from contract work to another even at 32, struggling to pay rental.
Today, I have my own place, no loans except for my tertiary loan and housing loan
Workwise, Im.currently a HOD in an international company.

Above is not to impress ( many samsters more impressive), i just want share below points

1. Never give up. (I got rejected many many many times when i tried to get any perm jobs while on contract)

2. You really have f*cking believe that you are worth something, that you deserves more in life. Fyi, I also endured a divorce when i was struggling back then.

3. Dream and hope. These keep you alive, always. I think even more powerful than family support

Stay safe all.

[johnkoh87]

Interesting thread and I like to share a few pointers from my own experience.

I am gg 37 this year. I started my careervery late (@32 years old) compared to my peers. I will spare the long details, just that my family was in Financial troubles when I was 18, everything got delayed. I was drifting from contract work to another even at 32, struggling to pay rental.
Today, I have my own place, no loans except for my tertiary loan and housing loan
Workwise, Im.currently a HOD in an international company.

Above is not to impress ( many samsters more impressive), i just want share below points

1. Never give up. (I got rejected many many many times when i tried to get any perm jobs while on contract)

2. You really have f*cking believe that you are worth something, that you deserves more in life. Fyi, I also endured a divorce when i was struggling back then.

3. Dream and hope. These keep you alive, always. I think even more powerful than family support

Stay safe all.

Thanks for sharing bro! Very encouraged especially in these times...

[hoosdathu]

IMHO it's not the income.

it's the partner. what's her requirements and whether you can fulfil hers or not. :o

[parrotkid]

kudos.

Another thing to note about women is not all women are suitable for you.

You just need to find one that is attracted to your potential.

Potential to have resources.

Potential to be resourceful.

Passion. Have passion in your life. My passion is to make $500 a day trading Forex while getting my dick suck looking over the sea. I'm working towards this dream.

Wealth. I learn that is not about how much you make. It's how much you save. Having said that. Saving is not ideal as banks are paying peanuts less than 0.01% as compared to inflation 4%. Deposit in cpf or medisave is only ideal when it's money you can afford to give away.

Lastly invest in a course on how to understand women. And then invest in a hobby where women are plentiful like art, dancing and yoga.

If not learn how to make money online and move to Thailand, Cambodia or Vietnam. At least that's my goal.

A man must be resourceful if he doesn't have resources. A man must have a healthy heart and mind if he doesn't have the resources.

Don't give up. I used to make $10k a month. Now I lost house. Lost car. Lost wife but never lose hope.

God bless.

ps. learn to sell if you want to make it big. For your own company or working for people. I'm learning to sell via Internet marketing. I want to scale. Climbing to 40 I'm learning how to write and type and hopefully be a published author.

Did your wife leave you because you started to earn less?

[kennyr]

Judging by the way you write, your english is still decent and seems to have the capacity to learn since your Olevel grades are decent.

Consider upgrading yourself, either skill wise or education to secure a job that will provide a better pay. I Unless you date someone from young, income will always be a factor that girl considers. t's not easy to date SG girl because many will consider the pay especially when they are already in their 30s.

I used have people saying bad things about foreign wife, but having some friends who are married with them. Not all of them are bad apples, there are very homely girls from China/Thailand...etc. Also, it is interesting to pick up new culture. Don't be kept within a box when it comes to meeting someone you want to spend the rest of your life with.

[JacqueMerlin]

Being white exempts you from the requirements asians have to endure when getting a local wife.

[soulcase55]

Just my thoughts. Feel free to agree or disagree

Income won't get you a sg wife- sexual and personality compatibility will.

As long as you and her work hard and earn a reasonable income that suits your lifestyles and agree upon it before getting married, I don't see any reason why this will be a problem in future.

I am not married, but ppl around me are and those who are happily married follow the above rule of thumb. Those who aren't, either got divorced, separated or live with it since they didn't forsee these mismatches in the long run.

[iBitch69]

Someone said if you earn less than $500k per year, you are mediocre

[Datingafter35]

Did your wife leave you because you started to earn less?


Hat too big for head. Her business fail and I have to clean shit then she stay at home. Then found out me wearing green beret. So left everything.

[lechlee]

Dude. It's not all about the income. Groom yourself. Carry yourself well. Have good mannerism. Treat people with respect. And show passion or interest in something or be really good in something. The lady will then find you instead.