Group for divorced/sexless marriage/singles

[smelly.cunt]

I'm in a sexless marriage hopping to find a group of people in similar situation. For support, chat or even taking it further.

Anyone knows any existing chat groups or such? Like WeChat or line

[hil169]

I'm back to singlehood. Hope you find a support group soon, bro.

[stonned]

It's a good idea :-)

I can start a group and if you like to join, just PM me your Wechat ID. I thought some people may not be comfortable with giving away phone number so Wechat is ideal. Of course you could also use your number Wechat ID but at least there's option. Cheers!

[CheeseL]

Interesting topic. Camping here

[tofuman1977]

interesting....

[Toobee]

TS why not u put your wechat ID for people to add. Is will be easier for many I guess. :)

[arepz]

I'm in a sexless marriage hopping to find a group of people in similar situation. For support, chat or even taking it further.

Anyone knows any existing chat groups or such? Like WeChat or line

Nice... I'm in too if there is any.

[I Love Boobs]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

[vardymahrez]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

Woman have no sense of honour one mah. They think different from man.

[vardymahrez]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

Women have a different sense of "honour" from men. Maybe can even say they don't really have that moral code at all... :)

[topcook1]

Women have a different sense of "honour" from men. Maybe can even say they don't really have that moral code at all... :)

Woman nowadays lost its moral and can be more evil than man.

[DurianSg]

It's a good idea :-)

I can start a group and if you like to join, just PM me your Wechat ID. I thought some people may not be comfortable with giving away phone number so Wechat is ideal. Of course you could also use your number Wechat ID but at least there's option. Cheers!

Add me singboi in wechat

[seekerJ]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

Sorry to hear your situation bro.. that's really f up
at least now you r much happy
I don't understand the meaning of marriage

[DurianSg]

Any add me

Wechat singboi

[caoputt]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

At least you got out of that mess, your story makes me concerned about how my future relationships are going to turn out :eek:

[stonned]

TS why not u put your wechat ID for people to add. Is will be easier for many I guess. :)

I don't think it's a good idea to expose your Wechat ID publicly here for everyone to see. A little discreet is good and even necessary sometime. Just feel free to PM me with your ID and I can add you to the group if you are interested :-)

[stonned]

Add me singboi in wechat

Just added you to the group, bro. Please check. Thanks!

[stonned]

We have a few bros in the group already and would welcome anyone interested to come in too. It's interesting to hear about the different experience from each other. We plan to catch up for drinks too when possible.

[Xammi]

Can add me? Xammyteh
Thanks

[Viagra39]

add me interested too

[luanluanlai]

Anyone in the group? Already PM TS but still not in yet .. lol
Can add me? alpha2502
Thanks

[Shadow_warrior]

Well long story so here's the brief

I am in a sexless marriage so years back I feel so rejected I started with a Wl/FL and she became my gf and wl

and the 7th year affair ended today
just got tired of hiding, lying and feeling guilty
tired of the abuse, and the unevenness of the treatment.
funny thing is years ago couldn't walk away, somehow over the years I started to fade too.
today is a new beginning.
wouldn't want to have a affair again, heavy price to pay. almost left my family for someone like this.
that would have been the worse price to pay.

Funny joke is I cheated on my wife to start with the FB but we ended with her cheating on me. Irony of life...

[Shadow_warrior]

We have a few bros in the group already and would welcome anyone interested to come in too. It's interesting to hear about the different experience from each other. We plan to catch up for drinks too when possible.

add me please Shadow_warrior88

[Shadow_warrior]

anyone in the group.

can add me.

lets do drinks.

[stonned]

anyone in the group.

can add me.

lets do drinks.

Bro, your wechat ID is not found. Mind PM me your wechat ID again? :-)

[Shadow_warrior]

Bro, your wechat ID is not found. Mind PM me your wechat ID again? :-)

Pmed you bro...can you add me?

[ah rat]

lets do drinks.
_________

108433

[Fatwife]

oh all guys story how abt ladies ? all so happily married ?

[Shadow_warrior]

oh all guys story how abt ladies ? all so happily married ?

Er...have you read the pages? I think the mix of men women stories are varied

[stonned]

oh all guys story how abt ladies ? all so happily married ?

There are many unhappy wives too but most of them are more willing to tolerate and put up with it, for kids, or whatever. Though it's nice to hear from more of them too :-)

[Apollo]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

bro understand your feeling. Seems everywhere woman same :p

agree you made a smart choice and better life now

[Shadow_warrior]

should just combined the 2 threads

https://www.sbfsg.net/showthread.php?p=16253788#post16253788

[trichard]

Group still active ????????????

[maxman]

I had a sexless marriage.
Ex also put on 20kg+ after marriage and 2 kids.
Blamed me for everything, like unrealistic ideals on female beauty.
Scolded me for looking at pretty girls outside.
When we went for my friends' wedding dinners, made inappropriate comments on the brides - out loud! - "Stick insect, go back and eat your celery stick!"
Embarassing me in public.
Reluctantly I started going for FLs.
Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
Fuck off!
Finalised divorce.
I'm much happier now.
Fucking FLs, if my preferences are not kosher to others - you would now understand why.....

Not totally sexless, but I suspect you meant sexless after kids arrived? This appears to be very common. When wives or lovers become mothers, they often change to a different mode.

Reading your story, I cannot imagine the bad times you lived with her. :(

[maxman]

I have said this many times, that sex is rarely, if not never, free. All men will eventually pay for using pussy, especially if the pussy has produced their children for about 20 years as ordered by the courts.

Tougher for ex-spouses to skip paying maintenance

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tougher-for-ex-spouses-to-skip-paying-maintenance
(http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tougher-for-ex-spouses-to-skip-paying-maintenance)


Part-time clerk S. Chia has been waging a 16-year battle.

Since her divorce in 2001, she has been trying to get her former husband to pay the monthly maintenance of $500 for herself and their two children aged 18 and 20.

Following amendments to the Women's Charter in 2011, a new measure implemented by the authorities gave her extra ammunition: She was able to apply to court to get his employer to pay her directly from his salary. He was then working as a manager.

But he resigned the next month.

So she had to go back to court to apply for yet another enforcement order. He owes her about $10,000 in maintenance arrears.

Her headache underscores the continued challenges that some broken families face in compelling breadwinners to provide financial support, despite more efforts since 2011 to make them do so.

Lawyers say the number of enforcement applications has been gradually falling since 2011, when a host of measures were implemented to tackle the problem.

For example, the courts can direct an employer to pay the defaulter's wages to the person entitled to it, as Ms Chia did.

Divorcees who are remarrying must also make a statutory declaration if they have any maintenance arrears. This is to remind them of their obligations to their former partners and to ensure their new spouses are aware of this.

If the person refuses to make a declaration or if the Registry of Marriages (ROM) suspects he or she is not telling the truth, the ROM will not issue a marriage licence for the couple, said a spokesman for the Ministry of Social and Family Development, under which the ROM comes.

[maxman]

Yet again, I say that sex is rarely, if not never, free. Around the world, laws are written such that men will be made to pay for the pussies they have used, especially if it has produced their children until they become legal adults (about 20 years).

Credit blacklist effective in getting defaulters to pay up

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/credit-blacklist-effective-in-getting-defaulters-to-pay-up



For years, the authorities have been scratching their heads trying to find ways to get deadbeat husbands to pay the maintenance owed to their former wives and children.

And they have found one method that works - putting defaulters on a credit blacklist, making it harder for them to get credit cards and loans such as for housing. Some 80 per cent of the 229 claimants so far on this scheme recovered at least some of the money owed to them.

A credit information and debt recovery firm has collected about $2.5 million on their behalf since the scheme started in 2011, its spokesman told The Straits Times.

A person who is owed maintenance can take the court order to DP's SME Commercial Credit Bureau, which will record the debt and share the information with its more than 800 members, which include banks, retailers and moneylenders.

Being on the blacklist makes it harder for these individuals to obtain loans, said those interviewed.

[stonned]

Group still active ????????????

You mean the Wechat group? Yes we have increased by a number of members lately :-)

[trichard]

You mean the Wechat group? Yes we have increased by a number of members lately :-)

Can add trichard8888

[Tubeboy]

Add me also..Kel9898

[stonned]

Can add trichard8888

Add you on Wechart bro :-)

[stonned]

Add me also..Kel9898

Add you too bro :-)

[Ihowlian]

Love Is Blind

Marriage open your eyes.:o:(

[Jeretai]

Maybe i shld not come here.

Seeing these threads & i'm about to attach.... (sweats...)

[Ihowlian]

Attach can still detach. But once vow is made...till death do u part. Anyway all the best bro jeretai

[JacqueMerlin]

I have said this many times, that sex is rarely, if not never, free. All men will eventually pay for using pussy, especially if the pussy has produced their children for about 20 years as ordered by the courts.

Tougher for ex-spouses to skip paying maintenance

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tougher-for-ex-spouses-to-skip-paying-maintenance
(http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tougher-for-ex-spouses-to-skip-paying-maintenance)


Part-time clerk S. Chia has been waging a 16-year battle.

Since her divorce in 2001, she has been trying to get her former husband to pay the monthly maintenance of $500 for herself and their two children aged 18 and 20.

Following amendments to the Women's Charter in 2011, a new measure implemented by the authorities gave her extra ammunition: She was able to apply to court to get his employer to pay her directly from his salary. He was then working as a manager.

But he resigned the next month.

So she had to go back to court to apply for yet another enforcement order. He owes her about $10,000 in maintenance arrears.

Her headache underscores the continued challenges that some broken families face in compelling breadwinners to provide financial support, despite more efforts since 2011 to make them do so.

Lawyers say the number of enforcement applications has been gradually falling since 2011, when a host of measures were implemented to tackle the problem.

For example, the courts can direct an employer to pay the defaulter's wages to the person entitled to it, as Ms Chia did.

Divorcees who are remarrying must also make a statutory declaration if they have any maintenance arrears. This is to remind them of their obligations to their former partners and to ensure their new spouses are aware of this.

If the person refuses to make a declaration or if the Registry of Marriages (ROM) suspects he or she is not telling the truth, the ROM will not issue a marriage licence for the couple, said a spokesman for the Ministry of Social and Family Development, under which the ROM comes.



S Chia has another option.
Walk out of the toxic relationship completely with her head held high. Don't take anything from her ex and save her children from the parental maintenance act in future.

[PrincessPris]

Hi! Who do I Pm to join thr group?

[stonned]

Hi! Who do I Pm to join thr group?

You can PM me and give me your Wechat ID. Our group's been pretty active lately :-)

[Ho-Lee]

Attach can still detach. But once vow is made...till death do u part. Anyway all the best bro jeretai

Lol...many people takes the vow as a joke nowadays ...seen so many divorce until scare to get marry.

[chloelin1834]

Only wechat group? No wechat then how ah... I was in a almost none existent sex marriage too... until I fed up and divorced him... only heartache is the matrimonial flat I cannot keep even if i can afford to buy over :(

[chloelin1834]

Lol...many people takes the vow as a joke nowadays ...seen so many divorce until scare to get marry.

Is a piece of legal contract to kill each other :mad:

[Shadow_warrior]

Only wechat group? No wechat then how ah... I was in a almost none existent sex marriage too... until I fed up and divorced him... only heartache is the matrimonial flat I cannot keep even if i can afford to buy over :(

just sign up for wechat loh. be good to have ladies in the group. so far all testosterone in the chats.

mine is a no sex marriage too. but underlying was a lot of unhappiness and resentment and you really can screw someone that you are angry with about many things.

[chloelin1834]

Lazy to download and use additional apps leiiiii

[YELLOW]

Hihi can pm me how to join the grp???

[PrincessPris]

You can PM me and give me your Wechat ID. Our group's been pretty active lately :-)

Hey! I've pmed you but I'm still not added :confused:

[stonned]

Hey! I've pmed you but I'm still not added :confused:

Sorry, I've been very busy lately so seldom come here. Anyway, just added you on Wechat. Cheers! :-)

[stonned]

Hihi can pm me how to join the grp???

Please confirm give me your Wechat ID through PM. Thanks!

[stonned]

Only wechat group? No wechat then how ah... I was in a almost none existent sex marriage too... until I fed up and divorced him... only heartache is the matrimonial flat I cannot keep even if i can afford to buy over :(

Yes the main reason we use Wechat is for privacy reason. Most of us are not comfortable disclosing our phone number to everybody, which I guess you can understand. It's just a few mins to download and install. Do join us if you like to :-)

[chloelin1834]

Yes the main reason we use Wechat is for privacy reason. Most of us are not comfortable disclosing our phone number to everybody, which I guess you can understand. It's just a few mins to download and install. Do join us if you like to :-)

Currently still all guys in the group?

[Shadow_warrior]

Currently still all guys in the group?

we have a lady and a few asking to join the group...

[RTTO]

Well long story so here's the brief

I am in a sexless marriage so years back I feel so rejected I started with a Wl/FL and she became my gf and wl

and the 7th year affair ended today
just got tired of hiding, lying and feeling guilty
tired of the abuse, and the unevenness of the treatment.
funny thing is years ago couldn't walk away, somehow over the years I started to fade too.
today is a new beginning.
wouldn't want to have a affair again, heavy price to pay. almost left my family for someone like this.
that would have been the worse price to pay.

Funny joke is I cheated on my wife to start with the FB but we ended with her cheating on me. Irony of life...

Bro, you are not alone. I had (still having) similar fate like you:

married for 20 years
sex was boring, no spice, no passion, nothing to look forward
no oral sex from her, just little foreplay and then missionary
tried spice her with sex toy, porn, massage, talk dirty. Nothing works. She just not interested
touch her breast, she will cover and turn away
do kinky stuff on her she will not play along and walk away
outside brush her breast or touch her to spice up the mood, she will give me the "killer" stare
always got communication problem
she sees every small issue BIG whether with me, kids or my parents
moods swing most of the time

So......

had affair for 10 years and ended recently but we still keep in touch
sex was heavenly, hotel, parks, carparks, beach, cruise, club, toilet... u name it, we did it. Even after so many years, we were alwasy on fire when we see each other.
if we meet 7 days a week, we will have sex 7 times even during her periods
ended becos she wanted more of my time, gets very jealous (and will quarrel) when she knows i go out with wife
didn't want to hurt my family, especially the kids
miss her alot and still love her alot... but am not willing to pay the price at my family expense

[stonned]

we have a lady and a few asking to join the group...

Yes, its good to have more sis joining us for diversity and exchange of views :-) C'on, ladies!

[stonned]

Bro, you are not alone. I had (still having) similar fate like you:

married for 20 years
sex was boring, no spice, no passion, nothing to look forward
no oral sex from her, just little foreplay and then missionary
tried spice her with sex toy, porn, massage, talk dirty. Nothing works. She just not interested
touch her breast, she will cover and turn away
do kinky stuff on her she will not play along and walk away
outside brush her breast or touch her to spice up the mood, she will give me the "killer" stare
always got communication problem
she sees every small issue BIG whether with me, kids or my parents
moods swing most of the time

So......

had affair for 10 years and ended recently but we still keep in touch
sex was heavenly, hotel, parks, carparks, beach, cruise, club, toilet... u name it, we did it. Even after so many years, we were alwasy on fire when we see each other.
if we meet 7 days a week, we will have sex 7 times even during her periods
ended becos she wanted more of my time, gets very jealous (and will quarrel) when she knows i go out with wife
didn't want to hurt my family, especially the kids
miss her alot and still love her alot... but am not willing to pay the price at my family expense

WOW! 10 years' affair is very exceptionally. You guys lasted much longer than even most young married couples. Most affairs last from 3 months to 2 years at most.

[Tubeboy]

Only wechat group? No wechat then how ah... I was in a almost none existent sex marriage too... until I fed up and divorced him... only heartache is the matrimonial flat I cannot keep even if i can afford to buy over :(

Wechat is not that tough...it is same or even more user friendly than WhatsApp and Line. If you have difficulties, feel free to give us a shout....we welcome u in our chat group...can provide alternative views and share your experiences...hope to see u..

[mall80]

can add me daniel-0o0o0o

tia

[stonned]

can add me daniel-0o0o0o

tia

Bro, I couldn't find your ID. Is it daniel-000000?

[YELLOW]

can add me??? ...黄哥

[stonned]

can add me??? ...黄哥

Sure, PM me your Wechat ID pls

[RTTO]

WOW! 10 years' affair is very exceptionally. You guys lasted much longer than even most young married couples. Most affairs last from 3 months to 2 years at most.

Bro, we were actually childhood friend. We had good feelings towards each other during our teens just that no one revealed it openly. We went on to our other half and eventually got married to our other half.

We kept in contact all the while but would never show our affection until 10 years ago, we met outside, went for a drink and then the fire started

[AhKong69]

Hello. Can add me? Cheng_49

[stonned]

Hello. Can add me? Cheng_49

Ok, added you. Pls check your Wechat invite :-)

[Laoshu]

Add me. Sebastiankong

[stonned]

Add me. Sebastiankong

Bro, your Wechat ID is not valid:

user not found

Pls kindly check. Thanks!

[Laoshu]

Bro, your Wechat ID is not valid:

user not found

Pls kindly check. Thanks!


Bro, re-check. I forget to on the setting

[jimfairy]

Add me plz..... Id: jimfairy

[Gilengkiatdaddy]

Bro, we were actually childhood friend. We had good feelings towards each other during our teens just that no one revealed it openly. We went on to our other half and eventually got married to our other half.

We kept in contact all the while but would never show our affection until 10 years ago, we met outside, went for a drink and then the fire started

bro keep the fire burning hehe.

Sometimes think, life without marriage is better

[stonned]

Bro, re-check. I forget to on the setting

Ok added you now. Pls check. Thanks!

[stonned]

Add me plz..... Id: jimfairy

Bro, added you on Wechat. Pls check.

[Admiral938]

bro keep the fire burning hehe.

Sometimes think, life without marriage is better

Maybe, maybe not

[stonned]

bro keep the fire burning hehe.

Sometimes think, life without marriage is better

It's not better or not. It works for some, but not for others. You can't know it until you been through it. There are always pros and cons with each decision.

[KindleMagic]

Add me too. wechat ID: KindleMagic

[stonned]

Add me too. wechat ID: KindleMagic

Yes sure.. Added you on Wechat. Pls check and join in the active chats :-)

[Boyd000]

Add me. Boyd2015

[Yuuno111]

Dont mind can add me insode as well? YuunoScrya

[Tuanehkia]

What pre requist to join?

[stonned]

Dont mind can add me insode as well? YuunoScrya

Ok, added you on Wechat. Pls kindly check. Thanks!

[stonned]

What pre requist to join?

There is no prerequisite. We talk anything under the sun and just be respectful of each other that's all :-) Feel free to join us!

[Helpla]

Can a #foreveralone virgin join? XD
WeChat ID: Banglaar
Just wanna expand my social circle on and offline lol

[cleyeo]

Include me please..
wechat : jdude88

thanks

[stonned]

Can a #foreveralone virgin join? XD
WeChat ID: Banglaar
Just wanna expand my social circle on and offline lol

Haha... Virgin or not, all are welcome to join us. Just don't be embarassed by some topics being discussed :-D

Added you on Wechat. Pls kindly check. Thanks!

[Helpla]

Haha... Virgin or not, all are welcome to join us. Just don't be embarassed by some topics being discussed :-D

Added you on Wechat. Pls kindly check. Thanks!

Accepted haha
Just FYI, I'm not a female looool

[stonned]

Include me please..
wechat : jdude88

thanks

Sure, added you on Wechat too! Thanks!

[smoothjazz1918]

Hi, kindly add me as well
WeChat : Styx

[zaqqer]

Please add me!! thanks alot!
ID edencain wechat

[stonned]

Please add me!! thanks alot!
ID edencain wechat

Ok added ou bro, pls check your Wechat. Thanks!

[cleyeo]

To WeChat Admin for this group.

My apology,, I exit from the group.. I cant cope with the volume of the chat inside,, my mobile cant stop beeping or vibrating ..:):D

[sfv4242e]

Still available to add?
Wechat Id: hangloosebro

Thanks

[stonned]

To WeChat Admin for this group.

My apology,, I exit from the group.. I cant cope with the volume of the chat inside,, my mobile cant stop beeping or vibrating ..:):D

No problem, you can actually mute notifications from the group :-D Ya, the chats in the group can get very active at times!

[stonned]

Still available to add?
Wechat Id: hangloosebro

Thanks

Added you on Wechat bro. Pls check. Thanks!

[zippy369]

Add me bro.

Iamdawei92

[cavemanng]

Add cavemanng

[smoothjazz1918]

Thanks for adding me.

[stonned]

Add me bro.

Iamdawei92

Bro, cannot add you. Please check your privacy setting and allow others to add you. Thanks!

[stonned]

Add cavemanng

Ok added you bro. Pls check your Wechat. Thanks!

[Secretaffair123]

wechat lovesex1373

[starbkk]

Please add me
We chat id: starbkk888

Thank you very much !

[stonned]

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[MatureM40sg]

I am a Chinese male of age 56 till date.

But I do had met many Single/Married Female whom had a sexless marriage as claimed which we really do not understand how it happened.

Is it bcoz of interest or having eating the same dish daily make our life boring? lolz.

I would say it should be mutual understanding on each others need and requirement and how to please each other is more important to let each other enjoy together as one for hours of Great Sex.

Hope i can contribute some understanding for female whom have a SEXLESS marriage in here..

[jsingh85]

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[stonned]

I am a Chinese male of age 56 till date.

But I do had met many Single/Married Female whom had a sexless marriage as claimed which we really do not understand how it happened.

Is it bcoz of interest or having eating the same dish daily make our life boring? lolz.

I would say it should be mutual understanding on each others need and requirement and how to please each other is more important to let each other enjoy together as one for hours of Great Sex.

Hope i can contribute some understanding for female whom have a SEXLESS marriage in here..

It is very common for this to happen in long marriages, some even as short just a couple of years. And ironically, we actually have more women who lose interest in sex rather than man. Come into our group and you will hear stories like that :-|

[stonned]

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[Harley_Fatboy]

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[Chivas0110]

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[alphaguy20]

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[stonned]

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Sorry bro, we only use Wechat as it is more popular. Feel free to join us!

[stonned]

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[stlover72]

Bro, can add me too. Oliver1152
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[topcook1]

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[stonned]

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[herotan]

this is interesting. TS bro, wouldn't it be hard to keep track on topics or questions asked/replied in WeChat? I can imagine the ultra traffic taking place there. I married for 10years and have been sexless marriage for the pass 3 or 4 years. A bad incident happened between us and I stopped having sex with my wife ever since. A wall of pillows erected between us on our bed. heehee.

[stonned]

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[stonned]

this is interesting. TS bro, wouldn't it be hard to keep track on topics or questions asked/replied in WeChat? I can imagine the ultra traffic taking place there. I married for 10years and have been sexless marriage for the pass 3 or 4 years. A bad incident happened between us and I stopped having sex with my wife ever since. A wall of pillows erected between us on our bed. heehee.

We don't dwell on any topic for very long so it's no problem. It's very impromptu so we just chat anytime and then move on. Yes sometimes it's a bit to follow when there are a couple hundred of messages at a time :-D

Your experience is quite similar with some of us in the group. It's interesting how things are so similar with many of us.

[Wins88]

Bro, you are not alone. I had (still having) similar fate like you:

married for 20 years
sex was boring, no spice, no passion, nothing to look forward
no oral sex from her, just little foreplay and then missionary
tried spice her with sex toy, porn, massage, talk dirty. Nothing works. She just not interested
touch her breast, she will cover and turn away
do kinky stuff on her she will not play along and walk away
outside brush her breast or touch her to spice up the mood, she will give me the "killer" stare
always got communication problem
she sees every small issue BIG whether with me, kids or my parents
moods swing most of the time

So......

had affair for 10 years and ended recently but we still keep in touch
sex was heavenly, hotel, parks, carparks, beach, cruise, club, toilet... u name it, we did it. Even after so many years, we were alwasy on fire when we see each other.
if we meet 7 days a week, we will have sex 7 times even during her periods
ended becos she wanted more of my time, gets very jealous (and will quarrel) when she knows i go out with wife
didn't want to hurt my family, especially the kids
miss her alot and still love her alot... but am not willing to pay the price at my family expense

Bro I feel so sad reading ur post. So many years in what i see as a abusive marriage (abused by wife psychologically). Hope you find happiness.

[xchange]

I'm not sure how many have read the WOMEN’S CHARTER-but to me it is useful for those who intend to marry and a MUST read for those who are married .
Will save you lots of time, agony and monies if you know it well .

[herotan]

We don't dwell on any topic for very long so it's no problem. It's very impromptu so we just chat anytime and then move on. Yes sometimes it's a bit to follow when there are a couple hundred of messages at a time :-D

Your experience is quite similar with some of us in the group. It's interesting how things are so similar with many of us.

haha. somehow I felt slightly better that now I am not alone. If I seek answers I will join the wechat group. Thank you TS.

[Shadow_warrior]

Bro, you are not alone. I had (still having) similar fate like you:

married for 20 years
sex was boring, no spice, no passion, nothing to look forward
no oral sex from her, just little foreplay and then missionary
tried spice her with sex toy, porn, massage, talk dirty. Nothing works. She just not interested
touch her breast, she will cover and turn away
do kinky stuff on her she will not play along and walk away
outside brush her breast or touch her to spice up the mood, she will give me the "killer" stare
always got communication problem
she sees every small issue BIG whether with me, kids or my parents
moods swing most of the time

So......

had affair for 10 years and ended recently but we still keep in touch
sex was heavenly, hotel, parks, carparks, beach, cruise, club, toilet... u name it, we did it. Even after so many years, we were alwasy on fire when we see each other.
if we meet 7 days a week, we will have sex 7 times even during her periods
ended becos she wanted more of my time, gets very jealous (and will quarrel) when she knows i go out with wife
didn't want to hurt my family, especially the kids
miss her alot and still love her alot... but am not willing to pay the price at my family expense

when life gives lemons we make lemonade bro...

married and having an affair is not ideal. In fact I would recommend people DO NOT have affairs or eat outside.
But if they marriage is falling apart and you have tried everything from religion, to counselling, to talking, to threatening, to fighting, to arguing and you finally accept that the situation is irreversible, then you do what you do to survive and make it to the next day, the next month and next year.

At the end of the day, no matter what we sign, or what our status is, majority of people are selfish and they want something from you, or you want something from them, emotionally, physically or financially. They want things their way and when you cant give, the whip comes down on you.

I don't believe people get married to cheat. I think cheating or eating outside comes about because something has failed, and the person is trying to survive or solve the inner conflict. There are no winners, but survivors

[Dobernite]

I was faithful for 26 years but sexless for 4 years plus 2 decades of emotional abuse...finally just told my self to hell with it and visited FL for release. Wanting to end the marriage off but just never quite got the courage ...kids are lovely and in University... feeling really sucks thinking how life has passed me by and I am still not doing anything.

[cocky1234]

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[tofuman1977]

I was faithful for 26 years but sexless for 4 years plus 2 decades of emotional abuse...finally just told my self to hell with it and visited FL for release. Wanting to end the marriage off but just never quite got the courage ...kids are lovely and in University... feeling really sucks thinking how life has passed me by and I am still not doing anything.

wow...bro....sory to hear that and so many people with the same fate...good to know people of the same boat are here...

[Datingafter35]

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[stonned]

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[stonned]

I was faithful for 26 years but sexless for 4 years plus 2 decades of emotional abuse...finally just told my self to hell with it and visited FL for release. Wanting to end the marriage off but just never quite got the courage ...kids are lovely and in University... feeling really sucks thinking how life has passed me by and I am still not doing anything.

We have so many similar stories in the group. Wonder what is going on with SG wives these days. No wonder the FL/ML trade is blooming :(

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[HelloAngel]

We have so many similar stories in the group. Wonder what is going on with SG wives these days. No wonder the FL/ML trade is blooming :(

What's wrong with Sg wives? I think sex comes naturally when the lady's emotional tank is filled. Talk to your wife, take a vacation, do something different with her. It may help. I left my hb cos he was too contented with life and I was paying for everything in the household. I want a hb that looks after me n my child, not depending on me to maintain the house. It's tiring. So I left..

[stonned]

What's wrong with Sg wives? I think sex comes naturally when the lady's emotional tank is filled. Talk to your wife, take a vacation, do something different with her. It may help. I left my hb cos he was too contented with life and I was paying for everything in the household. I want a hb that looks after me n my child, not depending on me to maintain the house. It's tiring. So I left..

I fully agree with you on that, no question. It should not be 1 party that's doing most of the work to keep the relationship alive. No one will enjoy or appreciate that in long term. However, for the bros that I know, they actually work vary hard for the family, supported them financially, and tried to communicate with the wife. But somehow the wives just not responding much. Hence I really don't know what's wrong with them.

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.....somehow the wives just not responding much. Hence I really don't know what's wrong with them.

From my observations, the parents have a lot of influence in this. Many women only go for separation/divorce because her parents are at the back supporting her-very often because she is the princess/only daughter of the family who must be treated like crown jewel. Career minded women also tend to be more prone to this.
So if you marry the spoilt princess of an ambitious family -be warned.
I even heard one case where a career minded women told her husband that her job is only to give birth but NOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABY.If the husband want kids, he has to take care of them!

[stonned]

From my observations, the parents have a lot of influence in this. Many women only go for separation/divorce because her parents are at the back supporting her-very often because she is the princess/only daughter of the family who must be treated like crown jewel. Career minded women also tend to be more prone to this.
So if you marry the spoilt princess of an ambitious family -be warned.
I even heard one case where a career minded women told her husband that her job is only to give birth but NOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABY.If the husband want kids, he has to take care of them!

Such is the misery our bros have to ensure and put up with... And then get blamed when they find another lover outside, losing their pants going through divorce in the end :-(

[JacqueMerlin]

What's wrong with Sg wives? I think sex comes naturally when the lady's emotional tank is filled. Talk to your wife, take a vacation, do something different with her. It may help. I left my hb cos he was too contented with life and I was paying for everything in the household. I want a hb that looks after me n my child, not depending on me to maintain the house. It's tiring. So I left..

I fully disagree with this. I used to pay for the flat for expenses as much as possible until sometimes i had nothing left for myself. She fucks with other men and then blames me for being not good enough. Naturally no sex.

It depends not on filling up the emotional tank. It depends on the wife's character. And she's sgrean.

[samster101]

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[stonned]

I fully disagree with this. I used to pay for the flat for expenses as much as possible until sometimes i had nothing left for myself. She fucks with other men and then blames me for being not good enough. Naturally no sex.

It depends not on filling up the emotional tank. It depends on the wife's character. And she's sgrean.

Unfortunately this is not the only case I have heard from the members of our group. Often when you treat a woman too nice, she takes it for granted :-(

[stonned]

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[peanodood1337]

I fully disagree with this. I used to pay for the flat for expenses as much as possible until sometimes i had nothing left for myself. She fucks with other men and then blames me for being not good enough. Naturally no sex.

It depends not on filling up the emotional tank. It depends on the wife's character. And she's sgrean.

You can pay for everything, but alas, you can't buy love. Feel your pain there.

Your ex sounds like a real piece of work. I hope you are not shafted by the WC when you got divorced.

[fuckwaynelim]

Unfortunately this is not the only case I have heard from the members of our group. Often when you treat a woman too nice, she takes it for granted :-(

fully agree bro, remember someone said before dont forget to bring rope when meeting woman something like that.

[iceiceice]

i ever heard someone says marriage is like a public toilet. those desperate or time to go wants to go in. while some will feel that inside is smelly and wants to come out.

i won't say all are like that, but it is the personal decision that made the situation. regardless, if one has tried his/her best but still cannot get the relationship and sex going. there is no regrets if things did not went well ending in divorce.

i'm in my late 30's and i do find my era relationship more loyal and firm compare to now. whereby ladies and guys can know each other easily and can do anything they want as long as wont get caught. if one would have found the right one then yes please be loyal, else trash it. in theory, you may not be the only guy in her life that bang her.

so personally, if really crave then GL lor. why restrict yourself? just make sure you don't smell too good when going home. lol

[mister man]

Hi, just found this thread. Was looking for some forum as well to share my 'misery'... I've never spoken to anyone before. My wife and I are married for more than 15 years, 2 kids and stable careers. Generally, things look perfect from the outside, happy couple, nice family etc... but on the inside, I feel we are slowly drifting apart, at least I feel that way. My wife is not interested in sex. She has low sex drive and feels that doing it is a chore. Me on the other hand, has a high sex drive. When we were courting, sex was pretty normal. First year of marriage, it started to slow down a bit because we were concentrating on our careers. My 1st child was born on the 3rd year. After that, it went downhill. We would not have sex for months... and usually when I initiate, there will be tons of excuses. Then I was caught cheating... long story short, somehow we got back together and my 2nd child was born. But the sex problem remains... sigh. The last time we made love was more than 4 months ago. I have been asking almost once every week but was turn down all the time till a point that I don't bother to ask for fear of rejection. To release my frustration, I masturbated also every other day watching porn, but nothing beats the feeling of making love to a real person. Sometimes I feel that I might go into depression. I did speak to her about it but she said that she just isn't interested in sex. We are both in our early 40s and to me sex is very important, a life pleasure....

[samdiy]

I fully disagree with this. I used to pay for the flat for expenses as much as possible until sometimes i had nothing left for myself. She fucks with other men and then blames me for being not good enough. Naturally no sex.

It depends not on filling up the emotional tank. It depends on the wife's character. And she's sgrean.
Agree with you. As one WOMAN relative says some Singaporean wives are now just money faced!!! There was this relative who worked hard supported the family and household almost whole life with the best of everything ,5Cs best tuition and just because now earning less than her because of ageism and difficulty finding permanent job,, she withdraws sex and turn the children against him, saying the father is not a good role model because she is now paying all the household expenses (not true because he is either footing university fees or condo maintenance fees). As a result, all do not speak to him anymore.She even said once the condo is sold, she wants to split up.

[MoeLanYong]

Hi, just found this thread. Was looking for some forum as well to share my 'misery'... I've never spoken to anyone before. My wife and I are married for more than 15 years, 2 kids and stable careers. Generally, things look perfect from the outside, happy couple, nice family etc... but on the inside, I feel we are slowly drifting apart, at least I feel that way. My wife is not interested in sex. She has low sex drive and feels that doing it is a chore. Me on the other hand, has a high sex drive. When we were courting, sex was pretty normal. First year of marriage, it started to slow down a bit because we were concentrating on our careers. My 1st child was born on the 3rd year. After that, it went downhill. We would not have sex for months... and usually when I initiate, there will be tons of excuses. Then I was caught cheating... long story short, somehow we got back together and my 2nd child was born. But the sex problem remains... sigh. The last time we made love was more than 4 months ago. I have been asking almost once every week but was turn down all the time till a point that I don't bother to ask for fear of rejection. To release my frustration, I masturbated also every other day watching porn, but nothing beats the feeling of making love to a real person. Sometimes I feel that I might go into depression. I did speak to her about it but she said that she just isn't interested in sex. We are both in our early 40s and to me sex is very important, a life pleasure....

When was the last time you dated your wife....as in ditch the kids, dress up nicely, eat a romantic candle light dinner at a fancy restaurant, go for a movie/clubbing and then serenade her with words in a park while watching the stars?

[mister man]

Once a while we do that actually. But not often as she is always busy. The last time was our anniversary late last year. But still didn’t put her in the mood:-(
Think it’s not that I don’t do romantic things. But she just has low sex drive. The last sex session was I guess she felt obligated after I asked her for weeks. And when we do have sex, I make sure she came at least twice. She just doesn’t long for it but if we did it she enjoys it as well. So I’m really puzzled.

[MoeLanYong]

Once a while we do that actually. But not often as she is always busy. The last time was our anniversary late last year. But still didn’t put her in the mood:-(
Think it’s not that I don’t do romantic things. But she just has low sex drive. The last sex session was I guess she felt obligated after I asked her for weeks. And when we do have sex, I make sure she came at least twice. She just doesn’t long for it but if we did it she enjoys it as well. So I’m really puzzled.

My friend, it seems to me you are glossing over a very important part of the mating ritual. As the cliché goes, A man falls in love through his eyes (like you needing to watch porn) and a woman through her ears. A date on your anniversary only is hardly stuffs of romance! I will be ashamed if I was doing that and still claim to be "doing romantic things". Its like your wife gifting you a birthday cake on your 40th birthday and in doing so, claim she is a wonderful wife. Something feels wrong, am I right? Because there is already an in-built expectation for such big occasions.

Consider this. When was the last time, for no reason or without expecting sex in return, you brought her to the beach to just gaze at the waves rushing up the shore? Sit there for hours to watch the sunset and pop a bottle of champagne/wine to soak in the moment.

What were your conversation topics like since you claim to have dated your wife romantically? Because I am pretty sure you glossed over the "serenading your wife" part too. Were your topics on which condo to buy next, the 3 ways to invest our money or the 5 steps to succeed in our careers?

Did you whisper sweet nothings into her ears like, Thank you darling for the 2 lovely kids you have given me and thank you for helping me finance this family too. Not many women can do both. You have given me joy indescribable - I could not have asked for a better wife. Or was it, Hey, can you look up which tuition centre for Ethan to go to, this year got PSLE, his Maths can barely pass!

If your environment and topics were on point, I fail to see how she was not "put in the mood". Something is wrong with your execution. Panadol is the cure to headaches. Similiarly, sweet words to women. When your headache persists, the answer is not to avoid panadols. The answer is to take MORE panadols or take Panadol Extras. So check your topics, check your persona, check your methods. Not lament about your wife not responding and cease dating her.

I get the impression too that you expect sex after doing all the above. Women hate sex being transactional. Treat me nice for sex only right?

Keep on serenading your wife without expectations. THEN, at the right time, you can talk to her about your need for sex. Once that is in place, you can date her weekly (I do) and sex can ensue weekly. Because I find it absolutely abhorrent for one to pull down his pants, pull out his dick and say: Woman, as my wife, it is your duty to suck my dick, so please do your job. And this is the "talk" I had with my wife.

She being "always busy" is telling of how interesting you are as a person and where you stand in her list of priorities. You might have to re-examine your persona, your attractiveness, her workload and family chores - are they dulling her libido - and how you can get more of her attention.

It is not wrong that she has Sex with you out of "obligation". It has to be! Bec more often than not, women have lower libidos. So there must be times that they do it solely to pleasure their husbands. The real question you should be asking is WHY is she not keen to pleasure you?? I submit to you that you may have forgotten how to woo your wife.

[mister man]

[QUOTE=MoeLanYong;17020578]My friend, it seems to me you are glossing over a very important part of the mating ritual. As the cliché goes, A man falls in love through his eyes (like you needing to watch porn) and a woman through her ears. A date on your anniversary only is hardly stuffs of romance! I will be ashamed if I was doing that and still claim to be "doing romantic things". Its like your wife gifting you a birthday cake on your 40th birthday and in doing so, claim she is a wonderful wife. Something feels wrong, am I right? Because there is already an in-built expectation for such big occasions.

Consider this. When was the last time, for no reason or without expecting sex in return, you brought her to the beach to just gaze at the waves rushing up the shore? Sit there for hours to watch the sunset and pop a bottle of champagne/wine to soak in the moment.

What were your conversation topics like since you claim to have dated your wife romantically? Because I am pretty sure you glossed over the "serenading your wife" part too. Were your topics on which condo to buy next, the 3 ways to invest our money or the 5 steps to succeed in our careers?

Did you whisper sweet nothings into her ears like, Thank you darling for the 2 lovely kids you have given me and thank you for helping me finance this family too. Not many women can do both. You have given me joy indescribable - I could not have asked for a better wife. Or was it, Hey, can you look up which tuition centre for Ethan to go to, this year got PSLE, his Maths can barely pass!

If your environment and topics were on point, I fail to see how she was not "put in the mood". Something is wrong with your execution. Panadol is the cure to headaches. Similiarly, sweet words to women. When your headache persists, the answer is not to avoid panadols. The answer is to take MORE panadols or take Panadol Extras. So check your topics, check your persona, check your methods. Not lament about your wife not responding and cease dating her.

I get the impression too that you expect sex after doing all the above. Women hate sex being transactional. Treat me nice for sex only right?

Keep on serenading your wife without expectations. THEN, at the right time, you can talk to her about your need for sex. Once that is in place, you can date her weekly (I do) and sex can ensue weekly. Because I find it absolutely abhorrent for one to pull down his pants, pull out his dick and say: Woman, as my wife, it is your duty to suck my dick, so please do your job. And this is the "talk" I had with my wife.

She being "always busy" is telling of how interesting you are as a person and where you stand in her list of priorities. You might have to re-examine your persona, your attractiveness, her workload and family chores - are they dulling her libido - and how you can get more of her attention.

It is not wrong that she has Sex with you out of "obligation". It has to be! Bec more often than not, women have lower libidos. So there must be times that they do it solely to pleasure their husbands. The real question you should be asking is WHY is she not keen to pleasure you?? I submit to you that you may have forgotten how to woo your wife.[/QUOTE


There is truth in what you said. Appreciate! I have not forgotten how to woo my wife and doing nice things are never enough. Btw I’m actually doing most of the chores and running the kids life, homework and also doing my work. She is busy running her own biz. I tot I can free up her time by taking on these chores. Think I treat her well not because of sex. It’s because I love her. But sex is a big part of marriage, no?

[MoeLanYong]

There is truth in what you said. Appreciate! I have not forgotten how to woo my wife and doing nice things are never enough. Btw I’m actually doing most of the chores and running the kids life, homework and also doing my work. She is busy running her own biz. I tot I can free up her time by taking on these chores. Think I treat her well not because of sex. It’s because I love her. But sex is a big part of marriage, no?

Of course it is. Huge part. I opined you may have forgotten how to woo your wife bec you wrote "when you and her were courting, sex was pretty normal". How is it you managed to get inside her skirt then but not now?? What has changed? Libido is supposed to be a constant in-built thingy so, ceteris paribus, the only reasonable conclusion is - you may have forgotten how to get inside her skirt. Not her low libido. Else why normal sex back then and not now? Have a think.

As for chores, doing her share of it is nowhere near romantic (to her) but I get your point. I do the same too. I have more kids than you. Know all my kids' sizes, buy all their clothes, school books and uniforms, bring them go tuition, coach them homework & 听写, and manage the maid and household matters. All done in addition to my own work. So that my wife is free from all these hassles. Hardly stuff of romance. But I do make it a point to remind my wife subtlely that a reciprocal relationship is needed for the quid pro quo to continue. Hence, we date weekly, and have sex after our dates. I find a weekly routine for sex works better than a random request for sex - both parties are prepared mentally and no one will get rejected/hurt. You may want to consider adopting it.

It should be your own discretion whether you think you serenaded your wife sufficiently. I don't think you did but Good for you if you think you did.

It will not hurt to brag about your effort on the kids to your wife. Push all the chores back to her to remind her of her duties. If she does it effortlessly, your so called "contribution into the kids" was minimal or non existent. Else, she should be reminded to return the favour on the bed.

It does appear your wife is preoccupied with work. You may want to decide whether her financial contribution is worth the sacrifice in bedroom activities. Not happy, promote her to be a full time housewife and have a humping good time.

Well, my friend, you are the one not getting sex. Not me. I am just sharing my observation. You decide what to make of it. Remember to keep working on it with your wife. Not with other women like you did in the past. Marriage is hard work. But it is worth it when you see your kids grow up in a good home. We Sg men need no reminders of the workings of the WC. Good luck sorting it out :)

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...... Often when you treat a woman too nice, she takes it for granted :-(



WOMEN’S CHARTER (CHAPTER 353)

69.—(4) The court, when ordering maintenance for a wife......shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case including the following matters:.........

(f) the standard of living enjoyed —
(i) by the wife before her husband neglected or refused to provide easonable maintenance for her;

Meaning is that you have to give your former wife the same standard of living she enjoyed during marriage-even if she commit
adultery/abandon the family ect2.

Ironically it means the higher the standard of living you provide for her, the more you have to pay for her maintenance after divorce.
Moral of the story-do not over indulge your wife as it may come back to haunt you.

[stonned]

WOMEN’S CHARTER (CHAPTER 353)

69.—(4) The court, when ordering maintenance for a wife......shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case including the following matters:.........

(f) the standard of living enjoyed —
(i) by the wife before her husband neglected or refused to provide easonable maintenance for her;

Meaning is that you have to give your former wife the same standard of living she enjoyed during marriage-even if she commit
adultery/abandon the family ect2.

Ironically it means the higher the standard of living you provide for her, the more you have to pay for her maintenance after divorce.
Moral of the story-do not over indulge your wife as it may come back to haunt you.

And no mention of maintaining the standard of living for the husband after divorce huh. In other word, only the lifestyle of the wife matters but not the husband. Such double standard in these days where women could be earning more than the man.

[parrotkid]

Add me. My wechat ID is Speedmaster123.

[stonned]

Add me. My wechat ID is Speedmaster123.

Ok added you on Wechat. Pls check.

[6sense]

Can add me too? fivelement

[stonned]

Can add me too? fivelement

I have added you on wechat. Pls check.

[CoolDaze]

Please add me: Jtwl0222
Thanks.

[magical]

I was faithful for 26 years but sexless for 4 years plus 2 decades of emotional abuse...finally just told my self to hell with it and visited FL for release. Wanting to end the marriage off but just never quite got the courage ...kids are lovely and in University... feeling really sucks thinking how life has passed me by and I am still not doing anything.

Now i welcome myself to this club. I just got separated after 16 years of marriage. Now at age 49+ being single again.:D

[tofuman1977]

Now i welcome myself to this club. I just got separated after 16 years of marriage. Now at age 49+ being single again.:D

hey man! welcome! was it not salvageable?

Imagine in a room when she is teaching your kid and u ask her how is his progress, she ignores you even after you repeated your question the 3rd time...feel like giving her a tight slap.

[MoeLanYong]

hey man! welcome! was it not salvageable?

Imagine in a room when she is teaching your kid and u ask her how is his progress, she ignores you even after you repeated your question the 3rd time...feel like giving her a tight slap.

Are you ok? After work, I teach my kid. She goes zumba. When she is back, she asks me How's his progress. So, I give her the full executive report. You so good deal still want to complain?? So easy, why don't you teach?

[Shadow_warrior]

hey man! welcome! was it not salvageable?

Imagine in a room when she is teaching your kid and u ask her how is his progress, she ignores you even after you repeated your question the 3rd time...feel like giving her a tight slap.

I know the feeling. my wife knows nothing about me. she doesn't know where I go, what I do, problems I have.

tried years ago talking to her, I do love to communicate, but it was always talking to myself and her not listening. So I stopped.

If anyone thinks that a FB or Gf or third party will solve the issue, it wouldn't. You will be in the same shit again.

Something about women once they condition themselves, to have that response towards a person, they hardly if even go back. Self reflection and change in marriage or relationship is not their strong suit

was watching some old videos, that back in the day, the older women wouldn't let the younger daughter in laws, eat full, sit down, kept them busy, hardworking, busy. I wonder why they made younger women go through so much hardship. Of course, we are not in that age anymore, and as a china PRC said to me, women used to do everything, men were the king, now women want everything and men become the slave.

20 years ago women said they are incredible, they multi-task. They can hold down full time jobs, take care of the house, take care of the family, take care of their man. And yes, there was a time it was so.

Most women today cant cook cant clean, have strong opinions, they don't take care of their men. Men on the other hand can cook, clean, take care of themselves, but have allowed the lady so much room and respect, that its no longer 50/50. I believe men only have 20-30% of the say these days, if any.

[stonned]

Please add me: Jtwl0222
Thanks.

Added you on Wechat. Pls check :-)

[stonned]

I know the feeling. my wife knows nothing about me. she doesn't know where I go, what I do, problems I have.

tried years ago talking to her, I do love to communicate, but it was always talking to myself and her not listening. So I stopped.

If anyone thinks that a FB or Gf or third party will solve the issue, it wouldn't. You will be in the same shit again.

Something about women once they condition themselves, to have that response towards a person, they hardly if even go back. Self reflection and change in marriage or relationship is not their strong suit

was watching some old videos, that back in the day, the older women wouldn't let the younger daughter in laws, eat full, sit down, kept them busy, hardworking, busy. I wonder why they made younger women go through so much hardship. Of course, we are not in that age anymore, and as a china PRC said to me, women used to do everything, men were the king, now women want everything and men become the slave.

20 years ago women said they are incredible, they multi-task. They can hold down full time jobs, take care of the house, take care of the family, take care of their man. And yes, there was a time it was so.

Most women today cant cook cant clean, have strong opinions, they don't take care of their men. Men on the other hand can cook, clean, take care of themselves, but have allowed the lady so much room and respect, that its no longer 50/50. I believe men only have 20-30% of the say these days, if any.

Well said bro! It's the similar experience of many guys I talked to, from as short as couple of years to 20 years married guys. SG women has transformed so much. We used to hear it's the hubby who neglect the wife, kids, and home, but that was long time ago. These days, most often than not you are listening to stories of guys who tried to communicate with the wife but getting a cold shoulder. The sparks gone, romance died, and passion evaporated into nothing. How time has evolved!

[tofuman1977]

Are you ok? After work, I teach my kid. She goes zumba. When she is back, she asks me How's his progress. So, I give her the full executive report. You so good deal still want to complain?? So easy, why don't you teach?

I did. we take turns.

[tofuman1977]

I know the feeling. my wife knows nothing about me. she doesn't know where I go, what I do, problems I have.

tried years ago talking to her, I do love to communicate, but it was always talking to myself and her not listening. So I stopped.

If anyone thinks that a FB or Gf or third party will solve the issue, it wouldn't. You will be in the same shit again.

Something about women once they condition themselves, to have that response towards a person, they hardly if even go back. Self reflection and change in marriage or relationship is not their strong suit

was watching some old videos, that back in the day, the older women wouldn't let the younger daughter in laws, eat full, sit down, kept them busy, hardworking, busy. I wonder why they made younger women go through so much hardship. Of course, we are not in that age anymore, and as a china PRC said to me, women used to do everything, men were the king, now women want everything and men become the slave.

20 years ago women said they are incredible, they multi-task. They can hold down full time jobs, take care of the house, take care of the family, take care of their man. And yes, there was a time it was so.

Most women today cant cook cant clean, have strong opinions, they don't take care of their men. Men on the other hand can cook, clean, take care of themselves, but have allowed the lady so much room and respect, that its no longer 50/50. I believe men only have 20-30% of the say these days, if any.

HI Shadow Warrior,

You are right. I dont share with her anything nowadays. I used to share everything with her and vice versa. Nowadays, it is just quiet and nothing. SHe has problems she dont talk to me..i have problems i keep to myself.

It s shitty and i guess i will just stop. She told me she has been unhappy for the longest time and that we have different values in life. BUt when i ask for exmaples, she cannot give me. basically, she just want to have status quo. and for me to give her "space". in other words, keep my distance from her. And I am doing that now.

People think i have a good wife. she is good..still good to my mum n dad but not to me.

[Disillusioned99]

I am in the midst of a divorce. Pls add me.

Disillusioned99

[Shadow_warrior]

HI Shadow Warrior,

You are right. I dont share with her anything nowadays. I used to share everything with her and vice versa. Nowadays, it is just quiet and nothing. SHe has problems she dont talk to me..i have problems i keep to myself.

It s shitty and i guess i will just stop. She told me she has been unhappy for the longest time and that we have different values in life. BUt when i ask for exmaples, she cannot give me. basically, she just want to have status quo. and for me to give her "space". in other words, keep my distance from her. And I am doing that now.

People think i have a good wife. she is good..still good to my mum n dad but not to me.

totally understand, I started sharing my problems and many other bros started sharing too.

Realised I am not alone. And neither are you.

Heads up bro, focus on your own happiness, that means, what makes you happy, survive to the next day

I just heard one of my friends in his late 30s, have to rush back to Malaysia to settle the late affairs of his older brother just a few years older.

He was only recently married, but killed himself in depression, he was having problems in his marriage

to be honest, sometimes the other half(can be man or woman) can really push us into a corner and sometimes people just do things with no return e.g leslie cheung and many other famous people

[magical]

hey man! welcome! was it not salvageable?

Imagine in a room when she is teaching your kid and u ask her how is his progress, she ignores you even after you repeated your question the 3rd time...feel like giving her a tight slap.

already passed the salvageable zone.:o

Please also add me on wechat : Ice Lemon Tea

[mercurial99]

Please add me:
Id: jorditheboss
Thanks!!!

[Shadow_warrior]

already passed the salvageable zone.:o

Please also add me on wechat : Ice Lemon Tea

can understand bro... painful when it gets there.

[ray2003]

glad I found this group!

just an intro:

Married 19 years. First 8 years OK with sex. Not adventurous, usually missionary position to end.
No sex since child born for 10+ years.
But I still love her without the sex.

More when I join the chatgroup, so....

Please add me: raytan2003

Thanks!

[bebe69]

My sympathies go out to all of you. I have been a single mum myself for more than 10 years now so i know what its like. I more or less single handedly brought my 3 sons up and trust me it wasn't and still isn't easy! Still some way to go for me yet but i am coping much better now. Things aren't always as bad as it seems. At the end of the day its how you want to live your lives that is most important. Heads up(no pun intended)!:)

[ray2003]

My sympathies go out to all of you. I have been a single mum myself for more than 10 years now so i know what its like. I more or less single handedly brought my 3 sons up and trust me it wasn't and still isn't easy! Still some way to go for me yet but i am coping much better now. Things aren't always as bad as it seems. At the end of the day its how you want to live your lives that is most important. Heads up(no pun intended)!:)

I have a friend who also single-handedly brought up her daughter for around 10 years too. I know it's difficult. Take care!

[Mikka]

It is better to stay single if you have a habit of sleeping around instead of getting married and regret and end up wasting each other's time. And time is priceless. Once gone, sayonara.....

[bebe69]

I have a friend who also single-handedly brought up her daughter for around 10 years too. I know it's difficult. Take care!

You do too. Hang in there.

[Shadow_warrior]

You do too. Hang in there.

I know quite a few single parents

never easy. My mother in law was such as well

you are not alone. hang in there

[MoeLanYong]

I know quite a few single parents

never easy. My mother in law was such as well

you are not alone. hang in there

This comment takes the cake! I mean seriously? You can "I feel you bro" all the way to your mother in law, whose
daughter - your wife - you are cheating on with a gf and who is now estranged from you?

Geez! Does your MIL cuddle up to you to tell you all the sufferings she endured as a single parent such that you can feel her?

Ok. Go ahead. Hit me with your 51 bullets. I deserve it. But gee wheez! The pretentiousness is extreme!

[nuslk]

Can pls add me on WeChat AlvinTan7171

Thanks

[Shadow_warrior]

a man who attacks another without cause has a pathetic existence

a man who cries out why me, after he has been caught doing evil deeds is merely a fool.

You reap what you sow, that's a universal law

[stonned]

I am in the midst of a divorce. Pls add me.

Disillusioned99

Sorry for late reply, I seldom come here lately. I have added you on Wechat already. See you there!

[stonned]

Please add me:
Id: jorditheboss
Thanks!!!

Added you on Wechat. Pls kindly check.

[stonned]

glad I found this group!

just an intro:

Married 19 years. First 8 years OK with sex. Not adventurous, usually missionary position to end.
No sex since child born for 10+ years.
But I still love her without the sex.

More when I join the chatgroup, so....

Please add me: raytan2003

Thanks!

Wow, we are almost married at the same year :-D 10 years without sex in a marriage is intolerable for most of us, amazing that you are still in it.

I have added you on Wechat. Pls check. Thanks!

[stonned]

Can pls add me on WeChat AlvinTan7171

Thanks

Added you on Wechat bro. Pls check to confirm. Thanks!

[stonned]

My sympathies go out to all of you. I have been a single mum myself for more than 10 years now so i know what its like. I more or less single handedly brought my 3 sons up and trust me it wasn't and still isn't easy! Still some way to go for me yet but i am coping much better now. Things aren't always as bad as it seems. At the end of the day its how you want to live your lives that is most important. Heads up(no pun intended)!:)

Will be glad to have you in our group to share your experience with us, sis :-)

[jonn88]

Add me jonn0901 to the group.

[stonned]

Add me jonn0901 to the group.

Added you on Wechat. Pls kindly check

[bebe69]

Will be glad to have you in our group to share your experience with us, sis :-)

hey there, while i'm not too keen on being in the chat group i don't mind chatting here with your guys. Have a great week ahead.

[TrappedIn]

Hi everyone, I have been a silent reader all this while. I'm also trapped in my marriage. Everything looks perfect on the outside, but we're more like parents or activity partners. :(

[bebe69]

Hi everyone, I have been a silent reader all this while. I'm also trapped in my marriage. Everything looks perfect on the outside, but we're more like parents or activity partners. :(

maybe its time to talk things out with your partner. only the two of you can help each other to make things better. all the best.

[Badlover]

I guess i have to join this group very soon.
In the mid of getting married in 2months, it has been a sexless relationship for months already. Sometimes i wonder if there is any issue with me instead.
Happy Friday Everybody!!

[bebe69]

I guess i have to join this group very soon.
In the mid of getting married in 2months, it has been a sexless relationship for months already. Sometimes i wonder if there is any issue with me instead.
Happy Friday Everybody!!

Happy friday to you too. i'm not encouraging or discouraging you to get married but you might wanna give it some serious thought and hopefully you won't have to be here in 2 months time!

[TrappedIn]

maybe its time to talk things out with your partner. only the two of you can help each other to make things better. all the best.

Many talks have happened already and unfortunately he feels that everything is OK status quo. So its always back to square one.

[a2014]

Many talks have happened already and unfortunately he feels that everything is OK status quo. So its always back to square one.

What did you expect in your marriage all along and is not happening. Has it happened happily before and it’s not now ?

[HelloAngel]

I guess i have to join this group very soon.
In the mid of getting married in 2months, it has been a sexless relationship for months already. Sometimes i wonder if there is any issue with me instead.
Happy Friday Everybody!!

Sex forms part of intimacy in a marriage and sexless for months doesn’t seem normal. Most men needs it at least once a week. Unless she is too bogged down by wedding prep, then no choice but maybe you should talk to her before you get married. All the best!!

[TrappedIn]

What did you expect in your marriage all along and is not happening. Has it happened happily before and it’s not now ?

I think a large part of what I hope to get and am not getting is intimacy. Not just in a physical sense, but the connectedness is just lacking. We are the "most familiar strangers". Somehow things changed after the wedding. I've been trying to mend things or to rebuild what seems lost. But it's getting tiring when it's one sided effort.

[TrappedIn]

Still in moderation mode, takes a while to see my post appear. But really feeling unhappy to be trapped in my situation. How much trying is enough? When there's no improvement..

[TrappedIn]

What did you expect in your marriage all along and is not happening. Has it happened happily before and it’s not now ?
Mainly intimacy. Not just physical sense but also in many other levels. We're like "most familiar strangers". Sorry if this is a double post of sorts as I suspect my earlier reply somehow wasn't captured. Felt like after the wedding the switch was flipped to "done deal"

[Badlover]

Happy friday to you too. i'm not encouraging or discouraging you to get married but you might wanna give it some serious thought and hopefully you won't have to be here in 2 months time!

This was my concern all along & i have hold back the wedding for 3months discussing whether to call off or not.
Ultimately, i did not.
Everything was in plan, and i still love my fiance.

Perhaps not as strong as before due to some 3rd party(on my side) that came into picture previously but ya. Moreover she make a good wife.
I believe amount of affection/love does affect the sex life between both also.

True?

[Badlover]

Sex forms part of intimacy in a marriage and sexless for months doesn’t seem normal. Most men needs it at least once a week. Unless she is too bogged down by wedding prep, then no choice but maybe you should talk to her before you get married. All the best!!


It is not normal but the problem lies with me.
I have no crave nor the feel to have it with her. Or maybe applies to most lady.
For a moment, i thought my dick is not "functioning".
But tested, proven it is workable.
& workable only with affection in place with that lady.

We have talked it out and no conclusion at the end.
But still, forsee if this continue down the road, it is only time whether who will cheat first because of hunger 🤦🏼‍♂️

[benjm85]

Add me at wechat
Bendi85

[stonned]

Hi everyone, I have been a silent reader all this while. I'm also trapped in my marriage. Everything looks perfect on the outside, but we're more like parents or activity partners. :(

Hey bro (or sis), I think this is very common with majority of couples especially after you have kids. We have stories of members who are completely inactive sexually after having kids. We tend to become overly occupied with the daily routine and challenge of caring for the child on top of all the pressure with work and other stuffs. So we end up operating more like a survival mode, trying to cope rather than enjoying the bliss of marriage life.

[stonned]

I guess i have to join this group very soon.
In the mid of getting married in 2months, it has been a sexless relationship for months already. Sometimes i wonder if there is any issue with me instead.
Happy Friday Everybody!!

Hey! You are already in such state even before married?? Then I would suggest you seriously consider putting the plan on hold. It's too high a price to pay to proceed just to fulfill the "plan". If there's anything I can say, it would be that things will only become even more challenging after you married, not easier. So please reconsider very carefully.

[stonned]

Can add me roc1980sg

Divorce man here .. sad

Added you on wechat bro. Pls check. Thanks!

[stonned]

Add me at wechat
Bendi85

Added you bro. Pls check your wechat. Thanks!

[stonned]

Hey bro (or sis), I think this is very common with majority of couples especially after you have kids. We have stories of members who are completely inactive sexually after having kids. We tend to become overly occupied with the daily routine and challenge of caring for the child on top of all the pressure with work and other stuffs. So we end up operating more like a survival mode, trying to cope rather than enjoying the bliss of marriage life.

Why not come join us in the group talk? We have a few sis that may share their views with you too :-)

[Mikka]

Marriage is just a piece of paper that doesn't guarantee anything. But again, to each his own.

[TrappedIn]

Hey bro (or sis), I think this is very common with majority of couples especially after you have kids. We have stories of members who are completely inactive sexually after having kids. We tend to become overly occupied with the daily routine and challenge of caring for the child on top of all the pressure with work and other stuffs. So we end up operating more like a survival mode, trying to cope rather than enjoying the bliss of marriage life.

I totally understand where you are coming from. But after waiting for months in hope of improvement,and there's nothing,I can't help but feel discouraged.

Of course family does take priority,but I do begin to wonder, at the rate we're going, are we really being a wholesome example to our kids. Of course I am not saying we should get all touchy feely in front of the youngins, but as they grow older, they are beginning to realize that we're "functional", not loving.

[TrappedIn]

Why not come join us in the group talk? We have a few sis that may share their views with you too :-)

Thanks for the invite. Will let you know when I'm on WeChat

[TrappedIn]

Didn't get to check in here as the school term has started which equates to dealing with kids and their school stuff.

[xchange]

Deprivation of sex has and can be used as a ground for divorce-that
one party has behaved in such a way that the other cannot reasonably be
expected to live with him/her and causing the marriage to have broken
down irretrievably.

Non consummation in fact is a grounds on which marriage is voidable-
whether due to the incapacity of either party to consummate it or the
wilful refusal of one party to consummate .

So a sexless marriage is either void or a ground for divorce and is actually a serious matter for brothers here to consider

[a2014]

I totally understand where you are coming from. But after waiting for months in hope of improvement,and there's nothing,I can't help but feel discouraged.

Of course family does take priority,but I do begin to wonder, at the rate we're going, are we really being a wholesome example to our kids. Of course I am not saying we should get all touchy feely in front of the youngins, but as they grow older, they are beginning to realize that we're "functional", not loving.

@TrappedIn, I guess this is quite common among married adults now a day. Love, Feeling, Sex and Family seems to change when we age and especially when kids come along. With the current social attraction more changes to come.

It's a matter of how we handle it. I guess man and woman make some difference. Maybe keeping love as love and no doubt love without certain element in it is not the same as what we all have tasted during courtship. And what you define as "functional" and "loving".

[benjabubbles]

add me in wechat, name mudfish, id: yoichiforme

[benjabubbles]

Hey bro (or sis), I think this is very common with majority of couples especially after you have kids. We have stories of members who are completely inactive sexually after having kids. We tend to become overly occupied with the daily routine and challenge of caring for the child on top of all the pressure with work and other stuffs. So we end up operating more like a survival mode, trying to cope rather than enjoying the bliss of marriage life.

agree. the sad thing is, even before marriage, some dont even have sexual life already. sigh.

[stonned]

add me in wechat, name mudfish, id: yoichiforme

Add you on Wechat. Pls kindly check. Thanks!

[stonned]

agree. the sad thing is, even before marriage, some dont even have sexual life already. sigh.

Then it is a very obvious sign that it is not going to work out well in such cases. Please do not ever harbor such illusion that things are going to get better after marriage. On the contrary, it's going to be the opposite.

[TrappedIn]

@TrappedIn, I guess this is quite common among married adults now a day. Love, Feeling, Sex and Family seems to change when we age and especially when kids come along. With the current social attraction more changes to come.

It's a matter of how we handle it. I guess man and woman make some difference. Maybe keeping love as love and no doubt love without certain element in it is not the same as what we all have tasted during courtship. And what you define as "functional" and "loving".

TBH, I don't expect it to be the same pre marriage and post marriage. But certainly I feel that mostly I have put in effort to adding some spark but my better half seems to reject all forms of intimacy, even connecting at a deeper level outside of the bedroom. Our conversations revolve family and kids, little else. So I guess I'm at a stage where I m very disappointed. Of course the constant rejection from a person so dear has taken a toll on me, wondering whether there's something that makes me less appealing. However when we talk about it, it has been maintained that nothing is "wrong"

[bebe69]

not sure if i've been added or not but anyway its...

judy_mum

[bebe69]

not sure if i've been added or not but anyway its...

judy_mum

sorry its... mum_judy

[fatdick]

Let me share my thoughts on sexless life. Some may or may not agree to it.

We all know that sex is addictive. If we are too focusing ourselves to cum but don't care whether he/she cum or not, you might enjoy doing it again but not the other half. If the other does not enjoy the session with you, there probably won't be next time for you. If the third party can make it enjoyable, affair becomes inevitable.

No body wants an affair if possible, it costs money and may lead to ugly divorce which costs us more. If you eat the same dish everyday, it is boring and somehow we wants an alternative.

For ladies (& gents as well),

Think about it, if your are too full, no matter how delicious the food is, you may not able to eat any more (if you reach your limit). If you feed your men well enough, they have no more energy to eat outside. So, feed your men till they have no more sperm to produce with another women. We all have limited energy.

For gents,

1) In my honest opinion and experience, size does matter. Those who said, size doesn't matter, it is bullshit. Either they have never tried with a bigger tool or too shy to admit. If your size is small, she will not enjoy it and as we age, the size tends to shrink. Trust me. There are a couple of ways to make it bigger (it takes years, yes, many years). (PS: Don't ask me how to do it. I won't share. They are already available all over the internet.)

2) If you have no time/patience nor want a fast solution, take some tongat akli, viagra, cialis or something even though u don't have ED issue. It will definitely help.

3) Or you go down on her. Let her cum until she is satisfied. Give as much as you want in return.

The gist is to make sure she cum every time you have a session with her and she is sure bound to return this favor. May not come back immediately. Make her addicted. Don't force her. We all hate pressure. So, don't do that here as well.

[fatdick]

This old man must be on pill and desperate for free fuck.


Wife gave all sorts of excuses - taking care of kids, tired.
Sex was bad - her thighs were 3 times my size, and tummy flabby with stretch marks.
Then she had an affair with a 70 year old man - some men will fuck anything.
And she chased me out, hoping he would marry her.
She got dumped later, and tried to crawl back.
.....

[stonned]

sorry its... mum_judy

Ok I have added you on Wechat. Pls check. Thanks!

[stonned]

TBH, I don't expect it to be the same pre marriage and post marriage. But certainly I feel that mostly I have put in effort to adding some spark but my better half seems to reject all forms of intimacy, even connecting at a deeper level outside of the bedroom. Our conversations revolve family and kids, little else. So I guess I'm at a stage where I m very disappointed. Of course the constant rejection from a person so dear has taken a toll on me, wondering whether there's something that makes me less appealing. However when we talk about it, it has been maintained that nothing is "wrong"

I have heard many similar experiences but mostly from men instead of women. So you are a rare case I guess. It's rather unusual for a guy not showing interest in sex unless for the several possible reasons: 1. He has other women outside, hence little energy for you, 2. He's stressed out by other matters such as job, money, etc. I've been through that and it can affect a man's sexual drive significantly. 3. Health reasons, for which only you know or can find out.

It is indeed very hard, and very frustrating, to convince a person that the relationship needs work. I made that mistake myself by ignoring it. I can only say that it takes great amount of patience and time to eventually show your partner something is not well in your relationship. I hope you can get the point across to him eventually.

[TrappedIn]

I have heard many similar experiences but mostly from men instead of women. So you are a rare case I guess. It's rather unusual for a guy not showing interest in sex unless for the several possible reasons: 1. He has other women outside, hence little energy for you, 2. He's stressed out by other matters such as job, money, etc. I've been through that and it can affect a man's sexual drive significantly. 3. Health reasons, for which only you know or can find out.

It is indeed very hard, and very frustrating, to convince a person that the relationship needs work. I made that mistake myself by ignoring it. I can only say that it takes great amount of patience and time to eventually show your partner something is not well in your relationship. I hope you can get the point across to him eventually.

I think it would be difficult to get the point across, mostly now we avoid the topic and for me I continue on in the cycle. Of wondering if things will ever improve and feeling lousy as each day passes the same way it did. I've tried to be involved in other hobbies but all these were only helping mask the issue, doesn't get to the root cause of it all..

[stonned]

I think it would be difficult to get the point across, mostly now we avoid the topic and for me I continue on in the cycle. Of wondering if things will ever improve and feeling lousy as each day passes the same way it did. I've tried to be involved in other hobbies but all these were only helping mask the issue, doesn't get to the root cause of it all..

So the question is do you know the root cause of it? It could be multiple causes too so may take a while for you to figure out all of it. The challenge is most men find it hard to communicate and reveal their deep, inner feelings so you should try to do so tenderly. Find the appropriate time and situation where he is most relax and at ease to talk about how he truly feels. It's like trying to open a durian, you have open it the right way or you will be pricked, hope you understand what I mean :-)

[TrappedIn]

So the question is do you know the root cause of it? It could be multiple causes too so may take a while for you to figure out all of it. The challenge is most men find it hard to communicate and reveal their deep, inner feelings so you should try to do so tenderly. Find the appropriate time and situation where he is most relax and at ease to talk about how he truly feels. It's like trying to open a durian, you have open it the right way or you will be pricked, hope you understand what I mean :-)

I understand what you mean but unfortunately I'm not exactly facing a durian. At least durian once we're past the shell, there's a reward of tasting the flesh. I face a porcupine probably.. :p

[stonned]

I understand what you mean but unfortunately I'm not exactly facing a durian. At least durian once we're past the shell, there's a reward of tasting the flesh. I face a porcupine probably.. :p

Well, look at it this way. At least a porcupine has a soft side to it. All of us do too. So perhaps you can try to locate your hub's soft spot, tickle it enough and he may just open up to you :-D

[JieJieJiaoWo]

TBH, I don't expect it to be the same pre marriage and post marriage.

my personal baseless opinion, possible reason for his change in attitude:

1) your physical appearance before and after marriage changed drastically

2) the way you talk to him changed after marriage

for 1 i dont think is possible, cause love is blind. for 2, did you get so comfortable after marriage that you nag on him everyday, put him down(even as a joke), say your friend husband do this do that, or forget to ask him how his day was?

either way, try help him wash his back and go shower with him. dont force things, just casually say you help him and wash him without forcing things, the most you masturbate yourself while washing him. do this for a few days if he still no feel then means he settle outside already(another baseless opinion)

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