23 women, 1 man arrested for vice activities in Jalan Besar hotel

[skyleon]

Published 3 hours ago

Updated 37 min ago


Seow Bei Yi



SINGAPORE - It was close to 5am on Wednesday (May 17) at Jalan Besar Road and all was quiet, save for a flurry of activity in the lobby of a hotel.

A police raid was underway.

A few plainclothes officers stood in the reception checking the guest list while their colleagues interviewed customers. More officers were upstairs, combing most of the 70 rooms.

A distant thumping of doors could be heard coming from the upper floors.

More than an hour later, 23 women and a man were arrested, for their alleged involvement in vice activities, under the Women’s Charter.

All are believed to be sex workers.

The police said that those involved had allegedly made use of their stay in Singapore on valid work passes to commit vice-related offences.

Preliminary investigations showed that they had been advertising their sexual services on online platforms and vice websites.

Potential customers could book their services through mobile phone numbers or email addresses provided.

The Straits Times understands that those arrested are mostly Thai nationals, aged between 20 and 33. The man who was nabbed is transgender.

When The Straits Times visited two of the rooms where the women had been rounded up in small groups by the police on Wednesday, the women were handcuffed to one another. They hid their faces from the media.

Condoms and lubricant were among the items found in the rooms.


continue reading here : http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/23-women-1-man-arrested-for-vice-activities-in-jalan-besar-hotel

[strikeback4]

Gone case, don't know which dome 1 stables up lorry

[motorsiowSG]

Gone case, don't know which dome 1 stables up lorry

23 women --- thats alot. Should be more than 1 stable.

Sad to see so many stables going down.

[strikeback4]

23 women --- thats alot. Should be more than 1 stable.

Sad to see so many stables going down.

LOL don't know why so many stables use the same hotel.... too obvious already la....:rolleyes:

[newyorker88]

Looks like a planned operation, all in a single hotel ? Wait for more news update

[BooBGuY]

Anybody knows which stable kenna tio? :confused:

[conquer]

The man who was nabbed is transgender.

This is interesting, the OKT is a ladyboy. :p

I also wonder, why there were reporters went along with the blueboys during the operation? For wayang purpose? :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbuNlfCQmcs

[albertlimCC]

This is interesting, the OKT is a ladyboy. :p

I also wonder, why there were reporters went along with the blueboys during the operation? For wayang purpose? :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbuNlfCQmcs

The ladyboy might be just a runner.

quite skeptical. Like bro said, 20+ Fls in a hotel. Quite unlikely.

[newyorker88]

This hotel is 209001

you're welcome lol :D



That place got hotel? Did a search on Google map, some very old buildings

[strikeback4]

This is interesting, the OKT is a ladyboy. :p

I also wonder, why there were reporters went along with the blueboys during the operation? For wayang purpose? :D


Reporters need to wayang how effective our boys in blue is

[strikeback4]

last time all the raids are in small number for thai girls eg (eg 4++ to max 8-10)

Now 1 shot nap 23 girls... gone case, dome 1 will be very quiet :(

[CaptFantastic]

Reporters need to wayang how effective our boys in blue is

Appraisal time? haha :D

[TheMentalist]

Appraisal time? haha :D
Publicize the raid to scare other girls from working.

[luckyboiboi]

i remembered last year there was a similar large-scale raid of at least 20 women in a hotel at aliwal st ?

[sadfa]

This is interesting, the OKT is a ladyboy. :p

I also wonder, why there were reporters went along with the blueboys during the operation? For wayang purpose? :D

[url]https://www.yv=EbuNlfCQmc

As usual this thread needs me to sets the standards.

It said all are believed to b sex workers.
So the man is likely sex worker not pimp.

And some times the cb garbagement will call fucked up media along
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Exchange points got standards ma

[sadfa]

Looks like a planned operation, all in a single hotel ? Wait for more news update

What news update u expect??
If all are sex workers, they'll be told to fuck off. Won't b charge in court. So no more news.

Fucked up media wont have exclusive interview with ger to say I suck so many cocks n now I can b landlord in pattaya!!!

Even if revealed two gers got HIV, I doubt they'll publicise it
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Exchange points need update ma

[luckyboiboi]

last time all the raids are in small number for thai girls eg (eg 4++ to max 8-10)

Now 1 shot nap 23 girls... gone case, dome 1 will be very quiet :(

not those street walkers along GL?

[sadfa]

last time all the raids are in small number for thai girls eg (eg 4++ to max 8-10)

Now 1 shot nap 23 girls... gone case, dome 1 will be very quiet :(

Don't expect any thing Intelligent from these ccb la.

They probably lucked out. They want to raid hotel n discovered the gong pimps put so many gers in same hotel
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Exchange points lucky ma

[strikeback4]

not those street walkers along GL?

It depends, some of those streetwalkers was caught and have to stay in SG till case close, passport confiscated by ICA and issue a "paper identification", so they can get customers "Legally", you just ask them the amount of condoms and KY ICA sponsor them for their weekly spot check with ICA

Some are risk takers ownself come to SG without going thru any "Agency"

Anyway those streetwalkers very well connected and know how to siam 1... the moment they heard police coming, you will see a "wave of girls" rushing to the streets taking taxi, most of them rent apartment at GL so they just run back to "base"

[BTech]

Heard 53 females denied entry this evening from TH coming into singapore due to suspicion on potential vice workers

[strikeback4]

Heard 53 females denied entry this evening from TH coming into singapore due to suspicion on potential vice workers

Really got source?

[strikeback4]

Anyway some of the dome 1 stables are back in business after the FL came back with police paper :rolleyes:

[chukeliang]

i remembered last year there was a similar large-scale raid of at least 20 women in a hotel at aliwal st ?

a blue bus was used, not blue van,.

[conquer]

The ladyboy might be just a runner.

quite skeptical. Like bro said, 20+ Fls in a hotel. Quite unlikely.

Like the other bro has pointed out, that ladyboy is a chicken also. It is indeed strange there are 20+ chicken share one hotel.

Also, how it is possible the blueboys can catch so many chicken, who each of them is located in a different room. They broke in every room in the hotel? Not to mention, it was 4am. :o


Reporters need to wayang how effective our boys in blue is

This year KPI sure hit. Congratulations to the blueboys. :D


As usual this thread needs me to sets the standards.

It said all are believed to b sex workers.
So the man is likely sex worker not pimp.

And some times the cb garbagement will call fucked up media along
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Exchange points got standards ma

If he/she is a chicken, thing becomes so much interesting, because as far as I know, there is no such thing as "male" chicken, legally.

[CITY224]

..... the other bro has pointed out, that ladyboy is a chicken also.

If he/she is a chicken, thing becomes so much interesting, because as far as I know, there is no such thing as "male" chicken, legally.

Some of the post-ops ladyboys are much more prettier and feminine than real girls even seasoned samsters are fooled sometimes. :D

[CITY224]

Anybody knows which stable kenna tio? :confused:

One of my passenger was unable to contact Xclusive the whole day..... guess it was one of the stables hit.

[sgjoey]

This hotel is 209001.

Yes.... was there not too long ago. Old but charming place.

[sadfa]

Like the other bro has pointed out, that ladyboy is a chicken also. It is indeed strange there are 20+ chicken share one hotel.

Also, how it is possible the blueboys can catch so many chicken, who each of them is located in a different room. They broke in every room in the hotel? Not to mention, it was 4am. :o




This year KPI sure hit. Congratulations to the blueboys. :D




If he/she is a chicken, thing becomes so much interesting, because as far as I know, there is no such thing as "male" chicken, legally.

Very very easy to identify chicken coop LA.
Police go watch CCTV, copy down room no n passport no if ger change room, OK liao.

Of cos I won't say how to identify chicken cos no point teaching police tips to do their jobs.

More interesting is at 4 am, do they start screaming at the door, ccb!!! Ccb! Police!!! Hurry up open ! Don't make limpeh wait OK. Otherwise u will die!!!

And no difference between male chicken n female chicken LA.
Female chicken not specifically identified n given immunity LA.
So fucked up garbagement wont say all female sex workers cannot be prostituted I mean prosecuted.
So no need to say anything about male pros.

garbagement will still bully n oppress them
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Exchange points prosecution ma

[strikeback4]

One of my passenger was unable to contact Xclusive the whole day..... guess it was one of the stables hit.

I think he posted on Dome 1

https://www.sbfsg.net/showpost.php?p=15950757&postcount=15953

[strikeback4]

Like the other bro has pointed out, that ladyboy is a chicken also. It is indeed strange there are 20+ chicken share one hotel.

Also, how it is possible the blueboys can catch so many chicken, who each of them is located in a different room. They broke in every room in the hotel? Not to mention, it was 4am. :o

Base on the news, they comb almost 70 rooms to find them, previously a "Angel" stable who operate at M** W** Hotel have a tactic where 1 runner will book 1 "emergency room" for all the ladies to hide in case of a raid, so I think the police got fed up and check the other rooms

Quoted from From Strait times (http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/23-women-1-man-arrested-for-vice-activities-in-jalan-besar-hotel) :
A few plainclothes officers stood in the reception checking the guest list while their colleagues interviewed customers. More officers were upstairs, combing most of the 70 rooms.

If he/she is a chicken, thing becomes so much interesting, because as far as I know, there is no such thing as "male" chicken, legally.

There are market for ladyboy, SBF already have a section dedicated to them at Keong Saik/Desker /X-Dresser central (https://www.sbfsg.net/forumdisplay.php?f=4)

Anyway this 1 is suspected to be Post Op as recently there was alot of commotion in dome 1 where some samsters suspect stables are advertising post-op ladyboy as real girls

And technically speaking, Thai LadyBoy who go for Post Op surgery are still consider as Man, even their Passport Title have a "MR" infront of it

[catba]

What happened to the clients?

[angviet]

What happened to the clients?

Ya what happened?

[sadfa]

Base on the news, they comb almost 70 rooms to find them, previously a "Angel" stable who operate at M** W** Hotel have a tactic where 1 runner will book 1 "emergency room" for all the ladies to hide in case of a raid, so I think the police got fed up and check the other rooms

Quoted from From Strait times (http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/23-women-1-man-arrested-for-vice-activities-in-jalan-besar-hotel) :
A few plainclothes officers stood in the reception checking the guest list while their colleagues interviewed customers. More officers were upstairs, combing most of the 70 rooms.



t

Damn fucked up pathetic excuse of police work if they use eye power on guest list n target Thai women

Last time during Chinatown raid, they end up catching two Taiwanese n throw them in jail. They claim they're only tourists.
Doubt garbagement even apologize to them.

So if some Thai women suay suay stay in same hotel, police will just catch n ignore their explanations, jail them n kick them out. N label them as whores

Fucked up!
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Exchange points pathetic ma

[adonis]

Since prostitution is allowed in Singapore, does it cover foreign women prostitutes working here or not? Solicitating and living of the earnings of prostitutes are serious offences though. What about being an OKT's runner?

[strikeback4]

Damn fucked up pathetic excuse of police work if they use eye power on guest list n target Thai women

Last time during Chinatown raid, they end up catching two Taiwanese n throw them in jail. They claim they're only tourists.
Doubt garbagement even apologize to them.

So if some Thai women suay suay stay in same hotel, police will just catch n ignore their explanations, jail them n kick them out. N label them as whores

Fucked up!
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Exchange points pathetic ma

Previous raids they are only able burst 1 stables at a time, with such golden opportunity to burst multiple stables, do you think they will allow any of them to slip up? and as mention, OKT develop to tactics to hide the girls in the past (eg as I mention emergency room) so police by now are able to counteract this "tactics"

[strikeback4]

Since prostitution is allowed in Singapore, does it cover foreign women prostitutes working here or not? Solicitating and living of the earnings of prostitutes are serious offences though. What about being an OKT's runner?

OKT and runners are already consider illegal as its consider pimping

Foreign women coming to singapore can work as sex workers but there are various rules that they are not allow to do, like advertising on media or soliciting in streets, that is why they usually work in bar, KTV or hang flower joints and than "sell" themselves to the customers

They can also work in Legal houses but its too troublesome for them as they need to find a legal brothels to accept them or thru an agency, and due to the paper work and deposits the legal houses have to do plus they are also have the responsibility, you can see that this girls have to work a long time (1-3 years) and basically no freedom at all and no rest (except for menstruation and MC which the girls have to pay for themselves)

[chobanco]

OKT and runners are already consider illegal as its consider pimping

Foreign women coming to singapore can work as sex workers but there are various rules that they are not allow to do, like advertising on media or soliciting in streets, that is why they usually work in bar, KTV or hang flower joints and than "sell" themselves to the customers

They can also work in Legal houses but its too troublesome for them as they need to find a legal brothels to accept them or thru an agency, and due to the paper work and deposits the legal houses have to do plus they are also have the responsibility, you can see that this girls have to work a long time (1-3 years) and basically no freedom at all and no rest (except for menstruation and MC which the girls have to pay for themselves)

Bro

You seem to be very knowledgeable in this business.

[OldBoss]

So what happened to the boss?

[Pawnmyass]

So what happened to the boss?

Fucked by 99 Indians and Banglas

[VanessaNguyen]

Bro

You seem to be very knowledgeable in this business.

yes, seems like.

[strikeback4]

Bro

You seem to be very knowledgeable in this business.

Book alot of this kind of escorts and girl tend to talk alot and tell you everything.... Hell some girls even met the Okt before and talk about them like what he look like.... Where he stay etc

[JuliaBurns]

What happened to the clients?

[strikeback4]

What happened to the clients?

What clients? the raid was 4am.... everyone was sleeping la....

Even those OVN also just ask to go home as they not involved....

[fastfoot]

Bro

You seem to be very knowledgeable in this business.

Since he knows so much maybe mata might want to invite him for lim kopi . :D

[strikeback4]

Since he knows so much maybe mata might want to invite him for lim kopi . :D

LOL you think mata so free want invite me ah? all this are basic information you can get from talking to WL / FL

This info the mata also already knew about it so no need me la....

Those who have been bonking long enough will know this or even know more than me :D

[sadfa]

OKT and runners are already consider illegal as its consider pimping

Foreign women coming to singapore can work as sex workers but there are various rules that they are not allow to do, like advertising on media or soliciting in streets, that is why they usually work in bar, KTV or hang flower joints and than "sell" themselves to the customers

They can also work in Legal houses but its too troublesome for them as they need to find a legal brothels to accept them or thru an agency, and due to the paper work and deposits the legal houses have to do plus they are also have the responsibility, you can see that this girls have to work a long time (1-3 years) and basically no freedom at all and no rest (except for menstruation and MC which the girls have to pay for themselves)

What the fuck!!!!

Who say foreign women coming to singapore can work as sex workers !! Wahlan!!!!

This is the biggest piece of rubbish here so far other than uncle Aaron discovering the latest bomoh with super power.

Foreign women cannot work as pros OK!!
Foreign men n women on social visit pass or tourist Or student pass cannot work. AT ALL!
Unless u r white n a high power banker coming to spore to fuck your spore branch workers. Then ica will even say thank u come back again.

Being a pros iz not illegal but that doesn't mean foreign women can be pros. Thats totally illogical which u can't grasp. Which explains yr last paragraph

This goes to show buying rep points n power DOESNT CHANGE A THING n is meaningless . U got a lot to learn la
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Exchange points buy ma

[sadfa]

What happened to the clients?

Why ppl like u keep asking such questions.

Thai embassy will have a thank you lunch for you LA for yr contributions to Thai economy.

Make sure you wear a face mask OK.
Good luck eating pad Thai with a face mask
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Exchange points ask ask ask ma

[strikeback4]

What the fuck!!!!

Who say foreign women coming to singapore can work as sex workers !! Wahlan!!!!

This is the biggest piece of rubbish here so far other than uncle Aaron discovering the latest bomoh with super power.

Foreign women cannot work as pros OK!!
Foreign men n women on social visit pass or tourist Or student cannot work. AT ALL!
Unless u r white n a high power banker coming to spore to fuck your spore workers.

Being a pros iz not illegal but that doesn't mean foreign women can be pros. Thats totally illogical which u can't grasp. Which explains yr last paragraph

This goes to show buying rep points n power DOESNT CHANGE A THING n is meaningless
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Exchange points buy ma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Singapore

Quoted from Wiki
Prostitution in Singapore in itself is not illegal, but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized. This includes public solicitation, living on the earnings of a prostitute and maintaining a brothel.

And tell that to those foreign girls in KTV and pubs and hang flower joints

And tell that to those exchange students who has sugar daddies & FB with benefits, for your info

Prostitution : the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment

[sadfa]

Previous raids they are only able burst 1 stables at a time, with such golden opportunity to burst multiple stables, do you think they will allow any of them to slip up? and as mention, OKT develop to tactics to hide the girls in the past (eg as I mention emergency room) so police by now are able to counteract this "tactics"

Logic fail LA.

U r saying they already know hotel is house of whores. If so, don't need to check guest book LA.
Just whack the twenty rooms can Liao.

From the report, they know got whores but don't know exactly how many whores.
Go whack, then discover got so many.

But u miss a pivotal point which can get police in other countries in deep shit. How many gers they arrested are actually whores

Just becos police scream chicken! Doesn't make a ger a chicken
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Exchange points logic fail ma

[sadfa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Singapore

Quoted from Wiki
Prostitution in Singapore in itself is not illegal, but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized. This includes public solicitation, living on the earnings of a prostitute and maintaining a brothel.

And tell that to those foreign girls in KTV and pubs and hang flower joints

And tell that to those exchange students who has sugar daddies & FB with benefits, for your info

Mindlessly quoting from Internet or other sources don't show yr intelligence but show u lack. U still don't get it

U CAN BUY points but can't buy know all
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Exchange points got quote ma

[strikeback4]

Mindlessly quoting from Internet or other sources don't show yr intelligence but show u lack. U still don't get it

U CAN BUY points but can't buy know all
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Exchange points got quote ma

At least I have source and logic?

How about you blabbing from your backside without any source or proof you as another dumb shit

[sadfa]

At least I have source and logic?

How about you blabbing from your backside without any source or proof you as another dumb shit

Come Internet, grow thicker skin n learn LA.
Read , think , understand!!
PS u can't buy that either.
Kekekekekeke
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Exchange points sensitive ma

[strikeback4]

Mr Sadfa, you make such claim foreign girls cannot come and work as prostitute?

Please quote the Penal Code or women Charter?

Or this is also come from your shit brain also?

[strikeback4]

This proof Sadfa is just an empty vessel, make so much noise yet no experience in booking escorts at all

Tsk tsk, SBF got another NATO

No action talk only

[sadfa]

Mr Sadfa, you make such claim foreign girls cannot come and work as prostitute?

Please quote the Penal Code or women Charter?

Or this is also come from your shit brain also?

So rude. No point entertain u.
Continue in yr fuck up ways.
Az if yr stupidity concerns me.

Go ask yrself why all these foreign women get arrested n thrown out even if there's no evidence whatsoever, no money exchange, no CD, no customers that they're whores
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Exchange points ignorant ma

[strikeback4]

1 Last thing you should take note, FL who got caught and issue "Identification Paper" by ICA, since as you mention foreign workers cannot work as prostitute

Why than do they have to go DSC every 3 month for check up, why every week when they go ICA, they are given condoms and KY? Blow balloons ah? mai lame la....

They obvious go back to the street and sell themselves again

[sadfa]

Since he knows so much maybe mata might want to invite him for lim kopi . :D

If police ask all misinformed stupid ppl to lim kopi, this forum will b vacant all the time LA. Haha

All The things that are said here are well known n going on for long time Liao.
Many senior ppl here know LA.
Already see so many things including being present when raid n invited to drink coffee n all the shit pulled on samsters.
We all see n all know LA.
Only those ginna don't know n ask ask ask ask.

If u r impressed by this guy, goes to show u r not well versed n lack exposure
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Exchange points can lim kopi ma

[strikeback4]

So rude. No point entertain u.
Continue in yr fuck up ways.
Az if yr stupidity concerns me.

Go ask yrself why all these foreign women get arrested n thrown out even if there's no evidence whatsoever, no money exchange, no CD, no customers that they're whores
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Exchange points ignorant ma

Who is the rude shit brain who come here pointing fingers in the 1st place?

Nevermind I entertain you for your sake

No CD in the room? you sure or not? every chiongster who book online escorts know every FL is issue with 1 carton of CD and KY by the OKT, and police catch people very simple, they confiscate their phone and check, and ask for relevant information like where have they been pass few days, if tourist must have photos right? and return ticket? FYI escorts do not have return tickets! Only when they want to go home than they ask OKT buy return tickets

And if caught as whores, very simple, they want to squeeze info from girls like who or where is the OPKT etc

[strikeback4]

If police ask all misinformed stupid ppl to lim kopi, this forum will b vacant all the time LA. Haha

All The things that are said here are well known n going on for long time Liao.
Many senior ppl here know LA.
Already see so many things including being present when raid n invited to drink coffee n all the shit pulled on samsters.
We all see n all know LA.
Only those ginna don't know n ask ask ask ask.

If u r impressed by this guy, goes to show u r not well versed n lack exposure
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Exchange points can lim kopi ma

At least I have 6 years of booking online escorts to know all this
I have accompany an escort (Nana from Passion Candy FL Dome 1) who was been caught and stay in SG for 1 year 8 months before she got send back, and even now I still keep in contact with her

What have you got to proof? Have you booken an escort before?

You really are empty vessel making so much noise, no experience at all in booking escorts still want kpkb, what a joke?

[strikeback4]

Mr Sadfa, you make such claim foreign girls cannot come and work as prostitute?

Please quote the Penal Code or women Charter?

Or you think you government ah? suka suka not happy, than anyhow say things become law is it?

[strikeback4]

Just for everyone who got confuse by this Sadfa comments, here are some quotes from AGC websites

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=Id%3A%2206b245ab-7e14-4ac8-aa83-353f689b9c03%22%20Status%3Ainforce;rec=0


There are some restriction also

143. Permitting girl below the age of 16 to use premises for sexual penetration

144. Permitting mental defective to use premises for sexual penetration

Other than that, some are confuse why girls get arrested, its because of this

146. Remote communication service operated or maintained for offering or facilitating provision of sexual services, etc.
(3) In subsection (1), “remote communication service” means —
(a) any website, web service or Internet application;
(b) any service using voice telephony;
(c) any service using a messaging system; or
(d) any other kind of electronic or other technology for facilitating communication.

Long story short, they cannot advertise their services online, or else at the Golden age on internet why the Legal houses in Geylang don't advertise online? Its not that they are stupid, but its because They cannot advertise online

[sadfa]

Just for everyone who got confuse by this Sadfa comments, here are some quotes from AGC websites

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=Id%3A%2206b245ab-7e14-4ac8-aa83-353f689b9c03%22%20Status%3Ainforce;rec=0


There are some restriction also

143. Permitting girl below the age of 16 to use premises for sexual penetration

144. Permitting mental defective to use premises for sexual penetration

Other than that, some are confuse why girls get arrested, its because of this

146. Remote communication service operated or maintained for offering or facilitating provision of sexual services, etc.
(3) In subsection (1), “remote communication service” means —
(a) any website, web service or Internet application;
(b) any service using voice telephony;
(c) any service using a messaging system; or
(d) any other kind of electronic or other technology for facilitating communication.

Long story short, they cannot advertise their services online, or else at the Golden age on internet why the Legal houses in Geylang don't advertise online? Its not that they are stupid, but its because They cannot advertise online

Use yr brains LA idiot!!!

Are all gers below 16 or mentally Defective!

And you quote remote communication Device.

Thats new n to catch the web master.
They even got catch web master before this new LAw was made.

How the fuck does this affect the gers when its the webmaster who did it n it's the one they target.

While it can catch gers who use wechat etc to advertise their services, how many gers do that, advertise their own services? 60%? U don't know right.

So if pimp put ad here for twenty gers, whose guilty. Pimp or twenty gers.

Anyhow quote, u think u r expert.
U don't even know what its for.
U see, u anyhow whack.
Shoot ten times kill one bird OK ar

And its new.
Which means how they catch gers for decades before they had this. Answer ??

U see one mass of facts, u pick those u want to support yr case BT u don't see the whole picture n u kaopeh kaobu.

I see alot of u this type of ppl before.
Fundamental basic thing tell u, don't want to listen. U rather fuck this fuck that.
If you got 1% normal man's iq, u realise that fundamental basic thing is right n it DESTROY all the bs in yr head but yr pride prevents u from accepting yr stupidity

Ignorant ass
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Exchange points anyhow quote ma

[strikeback4]

Use yr brains LA idiot!!!

Are all gers below 16 or mentally Defective!

You never heard of child prostitution that is happening in some countries? :rolleyes:

You don't some some people are mentally disable, they have a grown up body but have child like behavior?

Thats new n to catch the web master.
They even got catch web master before this new LAw was made.

How the fuck does this affect the gers when its the webmaster who did it n it's the one they target.

As mention, girl post ad is already illegal
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=Id%3A%2206b245ab-7e14-4ac8-aa83-353f689b9c03%22%20Status%3Ainforce;rec=0
Remote communication service operated or maintained for offering or facilitating provision of sexual services, etc.
146A.—(1) A person in Singapore who, in the course of business, operates or maintains in Singapore a remote communication service that —
(a) offers or facilitates the provision by a woman or girl to another person of sexual services in return for payment or reward;
(3) In subsection (1), “remote communication service” means —
(a) any website, web service or Internet application;


While it can catch gers who use wechat etc to advertise their services, how many gers do that, advertise their own services? 60%? U don't know right.

So if pimp put ad here for twenty gers, whose guilty. Pimp or twenty gers.

You already say Pimp, pimping is already illegal bodoh

And Mr Sadfa, you make such claim foreign girls cannot come and work as prostitute? Please quote the Penal Code or women Charter? Why cannot answer, your suddenly become stupid or cock in mouth is it?

As your Nick imply, you Sadfa are a "Sad Fark"
Never book escort you want tell peoples the do and don't ah?

[sadfa]

You never heard of child prostitution that is happening in some countries? :rolleyes:

You don't some some people are mentally disable, they have a grown up body but have child like behavior?



As mention, girl post ad is already illegal



You already say Pimp, pimping is already illegal bodoh

And Mr Sadfa, you make such claim foreign girls cannot come and work as prostitute? Please quote the Penal Code or women Charter? Why cannot answer, your suddenly become stupid or cock in mouth is it?

As your Nick imply, you Sadfa are a "Sad Fark"
Never book escort you want tell peoples the do and don't ah?

24 arrrested. Which is under age or mentally handicap .
1? 2? If none, quote for what

So now 24 gers arrested for advertising online. So convoluted, why not just criminalize prostitution n stop problem at source

If pimping illegal, why bother making webmaster guilty? Answer? Don't need new law what since Can already catch pimp for pimping. So no point have new law to catch webmaster

I wont tell u the answer LA.
U very pathetic case.
Let u think u r right.
Yr continued stupidity doesn't mean a thing to me except my amusement
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Exchange points pathetic ma

[strikeback4]

So now 24 gers arrested for advertising online. So convoluted, why not just criminalize prostitution n stop problem at source

You think so easy ah to criminalize prosititution, what about the whore houses at Geylang? Or at Petain Road? They don't want it to be illegal because once illegal there will be an void and criminal organisation will take over that market, they rather have limited legal brothels and can monitor over them, of course government smart, they don't issue brothel license anymore, those brothels still open have their license from before Singapore Independence

Mr "Sad Fark" Until now you still cannot prove and Penal Code or women charter that say Foreign girl cannot work as prostitute, got cock in mouth is it?

[strikeback4]

Just look at Thailand, they are the best example, prostitution is illegal so what happen?

Crime bosses take over than what they do? sell drugs and offer underage girls as sex workers, some girls in thailand are threaten and forced into prostitution

At least in Singapore its legal so they can monitor those houses, make sure those sex workers in Singapore are clean from HIV and ensure they are willing and not forced into prostitution

And you think those CCTV in those houses are for show? Those CCTV are operated by the police

[sadfa]

You think so easy ah to criminalize prosititution, what about the whore houses at Geylang? Or at Petain Road? They don't want it to be illegal because once illegal there will be an void and criminal organisation will take over that market, they rather have limited legal brothels and can monitor over them, of course government smart, they don't issue brothel license anymore, those brothels still open have their license from before Singapore Independence

Mr "Sad Fark" Until now you still cannot prove and Penal Code or women charter that say Foreign girl cannot work as prostitute, got cock in mouth is it?

Is it even under penal code or womens charter.
Waves of understanding rolling.
But not through u. haha.
Are u smart enough to know what it means. Keke

And yr amateurish take on prostitution reminds me of the conventional wisdom here that there must b prostitution if not rapes will increase
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Exchange points understand ma

[strikeback4]

Is it even under penal code or womens charter.
Waves of understanding rolling.
But not through u. haha.
Are u smart enough to know what it means. Keke

And yr amateurish take on prostitution reminds me of the conventional wisdom here that there must b prostitution if not rapes will increase
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Exchange points understand ma

LOL not under penal code or womens charter, since you mention its illegal, there is bound to be a law stated by AGC to say so

Don't avoid the question, no proof still want talk so much?

[strikeback4]

Mr Sad Fark, you government ah? you say illegal than it must be illegal? where is the black and white?

You think our Government so stupid like you ah? pass down law and never write down?

[strikeback4]

LOL so far I answer mr "Sad Fark" questions, but he himself make a big claim that its illegal but cannot support his own claim?

Technically speaking Prostitution in Singapore in itself is not illegal, but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized, reason is Singapore want to control it, don't want like other countries where Prostitution has been taken over by Criminal Elements

[sadfa]

LOL not under penal code or womens charter, since you mention its illegal, there is bound to be a law stated by AGC to say so

Don't avoid the question, no proof still want talk so much?

Haha I'm right as usual.
Still don't get it LA.
Haha.

Continue being stupid. See if I lose sleep over it

If u r humble n show humility I can teach u

Yes must b a law.
Go find. Don't think gt one thousand so slowly find. But u see Liao u still don't get it LA. Cos u not smart u knos
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EXCHANGE points proven right ma

[sadfa]

LOL so far I answer mr "Sad Fark" questions, but he himself make a big claim that its illegal but cannot support his own claim?

Technically speaking Prostitution in Singapore in itself is not illegal, but various prostitution-related activities are criminalized, reason is Singapore want to control it, don't want like other countries where Prostitution has been taken over by Criminal Elements

Ya u answer questions.
Haha

Don't even know what's going on, how to answer.

I look at you from afar I also shake my head n know u r DONE.
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ANSWER questions can exchange points ma

[strikeback4]

LOL Mr Sad Fark, your pattern I see until sian :rolleyes:

Trolls like you cannot out talk in terms of logic and intelligence only become talk nonsense

Haha you are right as usual where is your proof? Where is the law stating Foreign women cannot work as prostitute? still waiting lei....

[strikeback4]

LOL mr Sad Fark don't even know how to book escort, come and tell peoples story, hahaha what a joke

[strikeback4]

Foreign girls cannot work as prostitute?

Than those girls at bar/ktv/hang flower joints bring customer go hotel do what? Their work permit is under "Work Permit for performing artiste"

The Work Permit for performing artistes allows foreign performers to work in public entertainment outlets such as bars, hotels and nightclubs. Find out about the requirements and how to apply.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-permit-for-performing-artiste

[nguyhiam]

What happened to the clients?

So what happened to the boss?

What happened to the clients?

They queue up waiting to fuck your clone mistress USDollar's rotten cunt :D :D

[armour88]

Bro strikeback4, I get what Sadfa is trying to say, just that probably he put in in quite a guailan way instead of explaining it like a proper discussion. I believe he meant that foreigners regardless men or women, entering into SG as tourists are not allowed to work - "The Social Visit Pass is valid between two to four weeks and may be subsequently renewed for up to three months. Holders of the Social Visit Pass are not allowed to work in Singapore.

For more information on the different categories of visitors applying for a Social Visit Pass, visit the ICA website."

And FLs, be it Thai, Viet, Indonesians etc all entering as normal tourists are not allowed to work. And work can be in hang flower joints, FL, or whatever it is. It is considered illegal, which is why hang flower joints girls always run when there is raid, because it is illegal. I'm sure all the FLs are on tourist pass, which is why working as FL is illegal under ICA statute, not MOM or Women's Charter (this one applies to the OKTs as earning money from prostitutes is under this charter)

Student visa girls - be it whatever country, but mostly PRC can work but they have to officially be registered i.e. pay for school, and go to school to report. So they have the ability to work in KTV or where ever and have SD etc. But to work as FLs, they cannot advertise etc like what you mentioned is illegal.
"Foreign students are able to work part time in Singapore without the requirement of a work pass should the foreign student be a registered student or full-time matriculated student in one of the institutions as stated by the ministry of manpower and the foreign student works within the maximum hours a work restrictions ..."

Work permit holders are technically only able to work as what they are hired for, and who they are hired by. HFJ also hires work permit girls for singers and some good income models. These girls can work in SG but only as singers or dancers, if they go with customer to fuck or whatever, it is their own accord. If they sell themselves as FLs instead, and get caught, they and the work permit employer will get prosecuted.

Hope i didnt offend anyone, just thought its good to share.

Cheers, its Friday night. :)

[strikeback4]

Hi Armour88, I welcome constructive criticism, no worries, for Prostitution in SG, there is a very thin line on whats is consider "Legal" & consider "Illegal"

Because the meaning of Prostitution is as such "the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment"

So that means like example if a girl finds a guy and promise sex in return for lets say a handphone? or watch etc? it's also consider Prostitution

The main point why Sadfa gets so agitated is because he claim foreign girls cannot work as prostitutes, which is not true, those girls that get caught are for other reason as you mention
-Holders of the Social Visit Pass are not allowed to work in Singapore
-they cannot advertise etc like what you mentioned is illegal.

For your HFJ its kind of tricky, because when they fuck with customers, the customers will have to pay them so in turn, its consider "Prostitution" because they get monetory payment or gifts for sexual service
And technically speaking, their work permit is as "performing artiste" so in no way its related to Prostitution unless they work at those legal house in GL Petain Rd

[sadfa]

Hi Armour88, I welcome constructive criticism, no worries, for Prostitution in SG, there is a very thin line on whats is consider "Legal" & consider "Illegal"

Because the meaning of Prostitution is as such "the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment"

So that means like example if a girl finds a guy and promise sex in return for lets say a handphone? or watch etc? it's also consider Prostitution

The main point why Sadfa gets so agitated is because he claim foreign girls cannot work as prostitutes, which is not true, those girls that get caught are for other reason as you mention
-Holders of the Social Visit Pass are not allowed to work in Singapore
-they cannot advertise etc like what you mentioned is illegal.

For your HFJ its kind of tricky, because when they fuck with customers, the customers will have to pay them so in turn, its consider "Prostitution" because they get monetory payment or gifts for sexual service

U still not smart enough
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Exchange points stupid ma

[strikeback4]

U still not smart enough
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Exchange points stupid ma

Better than you Mr Sad Fark like a baby, cannot offer constructive criticism become troll? LOLOLOLOL

[strikeback4]

U still not smart enough
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Exchange points stupid ma

And Armour88 already stated those girls get arrested because of other reason, not your stupid law which you claim "Foreign girls cannot work as prostitutes"

[sadfa]

Bro strikeback4, I get what Sadfa is trying to say, just that probably he put in in quite a guailan way instead of explaining it like a proper discussion. I believe he meant that foreigners regardless men or women, entering into SG as tourists are not allowed to work - "The Social Visit Pass is valid between two to four weeks and may be subsequently renewed for up to three months. Holders of the Social Visit Pass are not allowed to work in Singapore.

For more information on the different categories of visitors applying for a Social Visit Pass, visit the ICA website."

And FLs, be it Thai, Viet, Indonesians etc all entering as normal tourists are not allowed to work. And work can be in hang flower joints, FL, or whatever it is. It is considered illegal, which is why hang flower joints girls always run when there is raid, because it is illegal. I'm sure all the FLs are on tourist pass, which is why working as FL is illegal under ICA statute, not MOM or Women's Charter (this one applies to the OKTs as earning money from prostitutes is under this charter)

Student visa girls - be it whatever country, but mostly PRC can work but they have to officially be registered i.e. pay for school, and go to school to report. So they have the ability to work in KTV or where ever and have SD etc. But to work as FLs, they cannot advertise etc like what you mentioned is illegal.
"Foreign students are able to work part time in Singapore without the requirement of a work pass should the foreign student be a registered student or full-time matriculated student in one of the institutions as stated by the ministry of manpower and the foreign student works within the maximum hours a work restrictions ..."

Work permit holders are technically only able to work as what they are hired for, and who they are hired by. HFJ also hires work permit girls for singers and some good income models. These girls can work in SG but only as singers or dancers, if they go with customer to fuck or whatever, it is their own accord. If they sell themselves as FLs instead, and get caught, they and the work permit employer will get prosecuted.

Hope i didnt offend anyone, just thought its good to share.

Cheers, its Friday night. :)

I doubt if they catch a studnet being a whore , they'll let her go cos she never advertise on internet. Haha! Do u Know how absurd it sounds

The police summon ger with principal n ask her to explain herself.

Principal scream how can u be a hooker!
U r here to study not be a prostitute!!

Ger say but I never advertise on Internet what!

Police n principal stun.
And smile n say.
Then that's OK. Keep up the good work!

Haha. Please LA.
Pay fees to be a bs student damn easy LA.
Not difficult to meet hours n keep up with course LA.
If can b whore like u say, even within limited hours, one month easy few k. Can cover LA.

And don't need explain to stupid ppl LA.
Let them stewwwww in their stupidity.
Answer already there.
Still want to demand . To suck ppl cock.

And where got guailan
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Exchange points guailan ma

[sadfa]

And Armour88 already stated those girls get arrested because of other reason, not your stupid law which you claim "Foreign girls cannot work as prostitutes"

Still stupid. From start don't get it.
Now, need kinder garten teacher teach u.
Think u get it but still dumb.
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Exchange points stupid ma

[armour88]

Yes, bascially anyone, girls or guys are not allowed to work under Social Visit Pass i.e. as tourists, so foreign girls technically cannot work as anything in SG, they are only allowed to come here to sightsee, meet friends etc. Working as prostitutes is also considered working, which is an exchange of goods/services in return for a reward (money, watch, phone whatever). So they are caught for working illegally, not caught for working as prostitutes specifically. Same for girls working as models in HFJ. Even they go out with customers and fuck 1 million times, its not illegal, but they themselves actually working in the HFJ is illegal

The context of prostitution being legal in SG i think falls more on locals, as long as the girl is not underage, she can work as a prostitute if she wants to, but can't advertise or 'sell' such services, she has to discreetly find men on her own. Which doesn't make sense, but that's the beauty of the SG law, it doesn't say its illegal, but they make it technically impossible to get business by legal means. It balances a democratic society, with a socially responsible one.

And i don't think the girls are caught because they advertise as well, it is the OKT that advertises, which in itself is already illegal, so its illegal x 2. The

This is called constructive feedback ma, sadfa bro, don't get so agitated and guailan la, everyone come here learn and happy ma.

[strikeback4]

I doubt if they catch a studnet being a whore , they'll let her go cos she never advertise on internet. Haha! Do u Know how absurd it sounds

The police summon ger with principal n ask her to explain herself.

Principal scream how can u be a hooker!
U r here to study not be a prostitute!!

Ger say but I never advertise on Internet what!

Police n principal stun.
And smile n say.
Then that's OK. Keep up the good work!

Haha. Please LA.
Pay fees to be a bs student damn easy LA.
Not difficult to meet hours n keep up with course LA.
If can b whore like u say, even within limited hours, one month easy few k. Can cover LA.

And don't need explain to stupid ppl LA.
Let them stewwwww in their stupidity.
Answer already there.
Still want to demand . To suck ppl cock.

And where got guailan
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Exchange points guailan ma



LOL who is the absurb 1?

If never advertise how the police know? Than how girls get customers? ask other students be customer ah? Knock on door of every house ask for customers ah? Mai lame la

Sad fark is indeed a sad fark, too many stupid logic but cannot back it up :rolleyes:

[strikeback4]

Yes, bascially anyone, girls or guys are not allowed to work under Social Visit Pass i.e. as tourists, so foreign girls technically cannot work as anything in SG, they are only allowed to come here to sightsee, meet friends etc. Working as prostitutes is also considered working, which is an exchange of goods/services in return for a reward (money, watch, phone whatever). So they are caught for working illegally, not caught for working as prostitutes specifically. Same for girls working as models in HFJ. Even they go out with customers and fuck 1 million times, its not illegal, but they themselves actually working in the HFJ is illegal

The context of prostitution being legal in SG i think falls more on locals, as long as the girl is not underage, she can work as a prostitute if she wants to, but can't advertise or 'sell' such services, she has to discreetly find men on her own. Which doesn't make sense, but that's the beauty of the SG law, it doesn't say its illegal, but they make it technically impossible to get business by legal means. It balances a democratic society, with a socially responsible one.

And i don't think the girls are caught because they advertise as well, it is the OKT that advertises, which in itself is already illegal, so its illegal x 2. The

This is called constructive feedback ma, sadfa bro, don't get so agitated and guailan la, everyone come here learn and happy ma.

Actually kind of disagree on this "but they themselves actually working in the HFJ is illegal"

Actually those girls have work permit, you can check with them, Their work permit is under "Work Permit for performing artiste"
http://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-permit-for-performing-artiste

So basically this work permit allow them to work in bars and nightclub

[armour88]

I doubt if they catch a studnet being a whore , they'll let her go cos she never advertise on internet. Haha! Do u Know how absurd it sounds

The police summon ger with principal n ask her to explain herself.

Principal scream how can u be a hooker!
U r here to study not be a prostitute!!

Ger say but I never advertise on Internet what!

Police n principal stun.
And smile n say.
Then that's OK. Keep up the good work!

Haha. Please LA.
Pay fees to be a bs student damn easy LA.
Not difficult to meet hours n keep up with course LA.
If can b whore like u say, even within limited hours, one month easy few k. Can cover LA.

And don't need explain to stupid ppl LA.
Let them stewwwww in their stupidity.
Answer already there.
Still want to demand . To suck ppl cock.

And where got guailan
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Exchange points guailan ma

Students working in KTV is not considered a whore, albeit a social stigma 'whore view'. If they work in KTV and go fuck with customer and get caught, how can they be prosecuted? Assuming that the girl go hotel with that customer and zhun zhun hotel raided, how can the police determine whether she is a whore or just fucking her bf? They will check her phone and etc and as long as she is not waiting in a room whole day for customers come fuck, how to determine she is a prostitute? You mean if you know a girl studying in SG and fall in love with her, you can't go have sex with her in hotel at all?

I think you're mixing social stigma with prosecution under the law.

Undoubtedly though that the police will inform her school that some particular girl is working in a KTV, whether or not the school wants to keep her as student its another story all together, she will not be prosecuted for working, as its legal to work. But there may be some schools that don't actually care, as long as she pay her school fees.

[sadfa]

Yes, bascially anyone, girls or guys are not allowed to work under Social Visit Pass i.e. as tourists, so foreign girls technically cannot work as anything in SG, they are only allowed to come here to sightsee, meet friends etc. Working as prostitutes is also considered working, which is an exchange of goods/services in return for a reward (money, watch, phone whatever). So they are caught for working illegally, not caught for working as prostitutes specifically. Same for girls working as models in HFJ. Even they go out with customers and fuck 1 million times, its not illegal, but they themselves actually working in the HFJ is illegal

The context of prostitution being legal in SG i think falls more on locals, as long as the girl is not underage, she can work as a prostitute if she wants to, but can't advertise or 'sell' such services, she has to discreetly find men on her own. Which doesn't make sense, but that's the beauty of the SG law, it doesn't say its illegal, but they make it technically impossible to get business by legal means. It balances a democratic society, with a socially responsible one.

And i don't think the girls are caught because they advertise as well, it is the OKT that advertises, which in itself is already illegal, so its illegal x 2. The

This is called constructive feedback ma, sadfa bro, don't get so agitated and guailan la, everyone come here learn and happy ma.

Don't be like those idiots meander n meander n end up talking like an idiot reminisce about being with a whore. And talk about this n state of prostitution



U say it's OK for foreign student to be a whore as long as she not advertising. Latter part is learn from an idiot wan.

Discuss straight to the point.

I said already thats pointedly absurd.
If such a student is caught, I bet she'll be told to fuck off.
Simply becos working part time doesn't
entail doing illegal work or immoral work. like prostitution.

Not to mention this is a famous loophole PRCs use to get into spore to be whores.
If its nt stopped, boy boy will go to hooker poly. Where he get STD cos classmate blow him in toilet

And advertising on Internet is to capture web master. Not ger.
There were two famous cases on this.
The first one was before the law came into place where the judge even attacked the website.

Understand ma.
And this nt arguing or guailan

Or r u those sensitive types where ppl must console n put emoji then u will feel secure

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Exchange points and understand ma

[sadfa]

Students working in KTV is not considered a whore, albeit a social stigma 'whore view'. If they work in KTV and go fuck with customer and get caught, how can they be prosecuted? Assuming that the girl go hotel with that customer and zhun zhun hotel raided, how can the police determine whether she is a whore or just fucking her bf? They will check her phone and etc and as long as she is not waiting in a room whole day for customers come fuck, how to determine she is a prostitute? You mean if you know a girl studying in SG and fall in love with her, you can't go have sex with her in hotel at all?

I think you're mixing social stigma with prosecution under the law.

Undoubtedly though that the police will inform her school that some particular girl is working in a KTV, whether or not the school wants to keep her as student its another story all together, she will not be prosecuted for working, as its legal to work. But there may be some schools that don't actually care, as long as she pay her school fees.

U confuse the issue.
I said catch as whore.
I never say catch sing song in ktv

So no point debating other points in yr post.

So if ger caught as hooker, u agree she'll be kicked out cos as student she can't b hooker even if being a hooker is not illegal
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Exchange points clear ma

[armour88]

Actually kind of disagree on this "but they themselves actually working in the HFJ is illegal"

Actually those girls have work permit, you can check with them, Their work permit is under "Work Permit for performing artiste"
http://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-permit-for-performing-artiste

So basically this work permit allow them to work in bars and nightclub

Most of the models working in HFJ are under tourist pass, that's why they have to enter and go back multiple times and also that's why they can get banned, cause how many times would a tourists really come to SG to sightsee? 180 days in a year? Quite impossible right? So these girls which are the majority are working illegally, which is why if you go HFJ and there is raid, almost all of the girls will run. Because they are working illegally.

There are a few working in HFJ and bars and nightclub under work permit, but because clubs have to pay more and go through a process for work permit, and also there's a cap on how many can be issued, the clubs can't issues WP for everyone of their girls. Most of the time only singers, or dancers/models that can generate high income for the club in terms of flowers/LD etc.

Going out to fuck with customers is a different thing, its part of the process, so its not considered prostitution, even if they are caught in a raid when fucking with customer, they can say they are fucking BF. But they will be questioned on where they stay, who they stay with, and if they blurt out they are working at X club, or the police request to go to the place they stay to check (most of the time is housing many girls), then they will get caught, and again caught for working illegally, unless is WP holder, who will generally be ok.

[strikeback4]

Most of the models working in HFJ are under tourist pass, that's why they have to enter and go back multiple times and also that's why they can get banned, cause how many times would a tourists really come to SG to sightsee? 180 days in a year? Quite impossible right? So these girls which are the majority are working illegally, which is why if you go HFJ and there is raid, almost all of the girls will run. Because they are working illegally.

There are a few working in HFJ and bars and nightclub under work permit, but because clubs have to pay more and go through a process for work permit, and also there's a cap on how many can be issued, the clubs can't issues WP for everyone of their girls. Most of the time only singers, or dancers/models that can generate high income for the club in terms of flowers/LD etc.

Going out to fuck with customers is a different thing, its part of the process, so its not considered prostitution, even if they are caught in a raid when fucking with customer, they can say they are fucking BF. But they will be questioned on where they stay, who they stay with, and if they blurt out they are working at X club, or the police request to go to the place they stay to check (most of the time is housing many girls), then they will get caught, and again caught for working illegally, unless is WP holder, who will generally be ok.

Yes agree on that due to quota of foreign labours, many bars / KTV / HFJ feel the crunch of not having many "flowers" in their joints as less girls = less customer so they have to resort to hiring "illegal workers" but that is another thing to debate

And some customers are abit timid, when get question by police, they will confess by themselves, but again not all customer are newbies

[armour88]

U confuse the issue.
I said catch as whore.
I never say catch sing song in ktv

So no point debating other points in yr post.

So if ger caught as hooker, u agree she'll be kicked out cos as student she can't b hooker even if being a hooker is not illegal
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Exchange points clear ma

I don't really understand your other post, cause it seems you're typing all over the place and its not very legible, which is why I'm saying you're agitated because from the way you type it seems like you are. Not me being sensitive or require your consoling. Here's an emoji for you though :rolleyes:

If a PRC student in SG is working as a whore full time, meaning wait in hotel/house to fuck, and gets caught in a raid, it will be reflected to her school by the police. Whether or not she will be kicked out by the school I don't know cause I don't own or know of any school that have done that. What I do know is that some schools DO tend to close one eye and ignore because they just want to earn money.

Anyway you're again confusing between social stigma and legality. Its different.

[armour88]

Yes agree on that due to quota of foreign labours, many bars / KTV / HFJ feel the crunch of not having many "flowers" in their joints as less girls = less customer so they have to resort to hiring "illegal workers" but that is another thing to debate

And some customers are abit timid, when get question by police, they will confess by themselves, but again not all customer are newbies

Btw bro, I am also a fan of Dome 1. :D

[sadfa]

Going out to fuck with customers is a different thing, its part of the process, so its not considered prostitution, even if they are caught in a raid when fucking with customer, they can say they are fucking BF. But they will be questioned on where they stay, who they stay with, and if they blurt out they are working at X club, or the police request to go to the place they stay to check (most of the time is housing many girls), then they will get caught, and again caught for working illegally, unless is WP holder, who will generally be ok.

Don't learn from that idiot LA.
Fucking for money IS prostitution.
Even if its part of the process.

But there's difficulty in proving moneys paid for fucking.
And police close one eye since after all she got valid wp.

No point Arguing like that idiot n say since she's foreigner, means police approve n allow prostitution LA!! I prove it!! Whats your answer! Knn...

And no hor.
Don't listen to some spore women who say spore wife who gets money from husband n fuck is also prostitution
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Exchange points unclear ma

[strikeback4]

Btw bro, I am also a fan of Dome 1. :D

How do you know I am a fan in Dome 1? :eek:

But Dome 1 is kinda of quiet now, not because of this raid of 24 people at Jalan Besar but because past few years there are lots of rival stables "Sabo" each other and worst still, leak out info of some girls with ICA

And because of this and recently Thais do not need any visa to visit Taiwan, most will avoid SG and thus the quality of dome 1 drop severely comparing to a couple of years ago

[armour88]

You said somewhere up there ma you chiong 6 years or something. I have heard girls who said that many other countries earn better than SG, and higher chance to enter, so they go to many different places now, sometimes Asia tour, like Taiwan, HK, Korea, Malaysia.

[strikeback4]

You said somewhere up there ma you chiong 6 years or something. I have heard girls who said that many other countries earn better than SG, and higher chance to enter, so they go to many different places now, sometimes Asia tour, like Taiwan, HK, Korea, Malaysia.

experience FL will always go thru the route of asia tours ;)

Anyway actually SG they get the highest cut as the stables are charging a "premium" pricing but as mention, the problem is that ICA is very strict and has been rejecting good quality FL

Other countries rejection rate is not that high so its easier for them to enter

[sadfa]

I don't really understand your other post, cause it seems you're typing all over the place and its not very legible, which is why I'm saying you're agitated because from the way you type it seems like you are. Not me being sensitive or require your consoling. Here's an emoji for you though :rolleyes:

If a PRC student in SG is working as a whore full time, meaning wait in hotel/house to fuck, and gets caught in a raid, it will be reflected to her school by the police. Whether or not she will be kicked out by the school I don't know cause I don't own or know of any school that have done that. What I do know is that some schools DO tend to close one eye and ignore because they just want to earn money.

Anyway you're again confusing between social stigma and legality. Its different.

If school don't kick out n she gets caught again, I doubt police will b so kind second time n probably will cancel student pass.

I say before Liao.
Prc using schools as loophole to work in spore is well known LA.

Police must be damn dumb to allow gers to work provided they meet school requirements.
Cos staying two years plus to b whore part time will make more than three months full time whore.
If police thinks schools can monitor the gers, then thats silly n naive LA.

To make it clear to u.
It means when ica say foreign students can work part time so they got money n work experience, its not envisage to allow them to suck cock. Haha!

Wa LAN!!! The idiot in ica who thinks its OK cos whoring is perfectly legal will b sacked on the spot LA.

U or the ger can argue its actually perfectly legal so why victimize the gal for sucking cock. Thats social stigma.

Thats becos spore is a fucked up shithole OK.

Anyway no country in the world except some very liberal western countries will b pleased If a spore Ger is a whore there even if she's got valid pass to b there. So also social stigma ma
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Exchange points understand ma

[armour88]

experience FL will always go thru the route of asia tours ;)

Anyway actually SG they get the highest cut as the stables are charging a "premium" pricing but as mention, the problem is that ICA is very strict and has been rejecting good quality FL

Other countries rejection rate is not that high so its easier for them to enter

No leh i think i heard before HK is also quite good, and they get to 'choose' and can reject customers.

[strikeback4]

No leh i think i heard before HK is also quite good, and they get to 'choose' and can reject customers.

But depend ma... if $$$ they will choose SG, because HK got bigger variety of ladies to choose from (eg Euro, Korean) so less share of the market

But funny thing is some girls don't like HK because of hygene, they say HK "Dirty" :confused:

[armour88]

Yeah because HK is those like Petain kind ma, 1 building alot of rooms then the girls inside 1 small room, guys open door see, ok fuck, not ok go type. Quite run down places i think.

[strikeback4]

Yeah because HK is those like Petain kind ma, 1 building alot of rooms then the girls inside 1 small room, guys open door see, ok fuck, not ok go type. Quite run down places i think.

2nd Best choice for them is korea....

Can opt to HJ customer instead of FJ and stay 3 months, not forgetting its a shopping paradise for them :D:D

[strikeback4]

Yeah because HK is those like Petain kind ma, 1 building alot of rooms then the girls inside 1 small room, guys open door see, ok fuck, not ok go type. Quite run down places i think.

I got look at youtube before about their way of doing things like you mention, customer knock on door, 1 room 1 girl kind, machiam like supermarket where you go for shopping to choose girls :p

[armour88]

Yeah, don't really enjoy that kinda feeling. Quite transactional imo. But yeah Korea is hot place to go now. But heard recently their immigration quite strict too.

[strikeback4]

Yeah, don't really enjoy that kinda feeling. Quite transactional imo. But yeah Korea is hot place to go now. But heard recently their immigration quite strict too.

LOL than are you a fish Tank guy where they all smile and wave at you? :D

Thats a 1st that I heard about korea immigration, but than if you're in contact with some of the escorts, you will notice they are now swarming to Taiwan now with the Lax in immigration plus a new untapped market for them :rolleyes:

[newyorker88]

I don't really understand your other post, cause it seems you're typing all over the place and its not very legible, which is why I'm saying you're agitated because from the way you type it seems like you are. Not me being sensitive or require your consoling. Here's an emoji for you though :rolleyes:

If a PRC student in SG is working as a whore full time, meaning wait in hotel/house to fuck, and gets caught in a raid, it will be reflected to her school by the police. Whether or not she will be kicked out by the school I don't know cause I don't own or know of any school that have done that. What I do know is that some schools DO tend to close one eye and ignore because they just want to earn money.

Anyway you're again confusing between social stigma and legality. Its different.


The recent Russians caught here, they on tourist pass? Or student pass?

[strikeback4]

The recent Russians caught here, they on tourist pass? Or student pass?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/high-class-russian-vice-ring-busted-in-police-operation-4-foreign-women

The women allegedly made use of their stay in Singapore on valid work passes to commit prostitution-related offences.

Preliminary investigations revealed that the vice syndicate has been advertising the sexual services of women on at least 10 different online platforms, including Backpage, Skokka and Yelp, claiming to provide high-class escort services from $500 per hour.


Some of the seized items include 13 mobile phones, four laptops, a tablet computer, condoms and related documents. PHOTO: SINGAPORE POLICE FORCE
Potential customers could book these services through the mobile phone numbers or email addresses provided on the websites.

During the operation, the police seized 13 mobile phones, four laptops, a tablet computer, condoms and related documents.

One of the women, a 39-year-old, will be charged in court with offences under the Women's Charter on Saturday (May 6). Investigations are ongoing for the other three.

Under the Women's Charter, anyone who knowingly lives entirely, or in part, on the earnings of the prostitution of another person is liable on conviction to up to five years' imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000.

[newyorker88]

If school don't kick out n she gets caught again, I doubt police will b so kind second time n probably will cancel student pass.

I say before Liao.
Prc using schools as loophole to work in spore is well known LA.

Police must be damn dumb to allow gers to work provided they meet school requirements.
Cos staying two years plus to b whore part time will make more than three months full time whore.
If police thinks schools can monitor the gers, then thats silly n naive LA.

To make it clear to u.
It means when ica say foreign students can work part time so they got money n work experience, its not envisage to allow them to suck cock. Haha!

Wa LAN!!! The idiot in ica who thinks its OK cos whoring is perfectly legal will b sacked on the spot LA.



That's abuse of student pass. ICA will take a serious view of such abuse, schools cannot dictate what the students can do or not.

These school systems are loop holes like what u said. There are so many tourists passing by singapore. 2 weeks is all they get. You mention about touring from country to country... yes, the immigration of ASEAN countries are well aware of such. Once they notice the pattern of travel of the gal, they may be rejected to enter singapore. This is not new. I personally seen such before, in Woodlands check point n airport. A gal being flagged to go into office for questioning for no reason, or whole car or taxi full of gals n their OKT ( male) kena asked to go into office after their passport stamped n got called into office after that.

Nowadays, w computers, and internet, many information are linked. Difficult to do such touring n earning already

[newyorker88]

[URL="http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/high-class-russian-vice-ring-busted-in-

Looks like the AV and police are monitoring the internet more n more closely nowdays. Strike when they can get the head of the ring.

The never ending cat n mouse game. When one is down, another will take its place. It seems that they are going after the big fish, local ones, they let them have some earnings. Occasionally they raid when too many complaints arise

[strikeback4]

Looks like the AV and police are monitoring the internet more n more closely nowdays. Strike when they can get the head of the ring.

The never ending cat n mouse game. When one is down, another will take its place. It seems that they are going after the big fish, local ones, they let them have some earnings. Occasionally they raid when too many complaints arise

That's the problem with vice, you can never fully eradicate it, if you outlaw it, criminal elements will take a hold of it, that is why the police and AV allow a few legal houses to operate in GL and petain rd but under strict supervision to ensure criminal elements do not take control

[KnowItAll]

If a PRC student in SG is working as a whore full time, meaning wait in hotel/house to fuck, and gets caught in a raid, it will be reflected to her school by the police. Whether or not she will be kicked out by the school I don't know cause I don't own or know of any school that have done that. What I do know is that some schools DO tend to close one eye and ignore because they just want to earn money.

if caught with evidence and charged.. student pass cancelled.. if caught but no charge.. warning giving only.. all private education institutions must tell all new students not allowed to work during admission.. this is by law.. school will close eye if student attendance ok.. results ok.. never get caught..

[KnowItAll]

If school don't kick out n she gets caught again, I doubt police will b so kind second time n probably will cancel student pass.

I say before Liao.
Prc using schools as loophole to work in spore is well known LA.

Police must be damn dumb to allow gers to work provided they meet school requirements.
Cos staying two years plus to b whore part time will make more than three months full time whore.
If police thinks schools can monitor the gers, then thats silly n naive LA.

To make it clear to u.
It means when ica say foreign students can work part time so they got money n work experience, its not envisage to allow them to suck cock. Haha!

Wa LAN!!! The idiot in ica who thinks its OK cos whoring is perfectly legal will b sacked on the spot LA.

U or the ger can argue its actually perfectly legal so why victimize the gal for sucking cock. Thats social stigma.

Thats becos spore is a fucked up shithole OK.

Anyway no country in the world except some very liberal western countries will b pleased If a spore Ger is a whore there even if she's got valid pass to b there. So also social stigma ma
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Exchange points understand ma

Only student pass from institutes of higher learning (eg polys, gov unis, gov invited schools) can officially work part time.. student pass from private education institutions (all those which require edutrust mark to enrol overseas students) cannot officially work part time unless industrial attachment..

[newyorker88]

That's the problem with vice, you can never fully eradicate it, if you outlaw it, criminal elements will take a hold of it, that is why the police and AV allow a few legal houses to operate in GL and petain rd but under strict supervision to ensure criminal elements do not take control

Agree, better to regulate n control. That's why they always have a designated place for vice.

[strikeback4]

Agree, better to regulate n control. That's why they always have a designated place for vice.

The best part about the law is that technically speaking, prostitution in Singapore is legal, but they have so many restrictions (eg pimping, age of 18 below, advertising) to make it hard for those who wish to work as prostitute :rolleyes:

I just learn recently that even ML need to go DSC check up every 6 months... The irony is that they raid MP for vice activities yet they still have such precautions

[armour88]

What makes me curious, you guys see in Jalan Besar there got 1 whole stretch of MP, 5 to 6 in a row kind, confirm 100% dirty type. But they somehow have been standing for a long time? And they super blatant in getting customers

[strikeback4]

What makes me curious, you guys see in Jalan Besar there got 1 whole stretch of MP, 5 to 6 in a row kind, confirm 100% dirty type. But they somehow have been standing for a long time? And they super blatant in getting customers

If deed is done inside the MP, its illegal as the MP license is for massage only, not a brothel license, and the boss may be suspected of pimping

But according to some samster, there are those smart customers who bring those ML to transit hotels, so technically its not illegal :rolleyes:

[strikeback4]

If you want to go hanky panky mp I suggest you don't recently the wind quite strong, lots of spot check, a couple of guys kana

Today kana AV raid at one spa in the west.

Luckily no happy ending. Jus lie down less than 10 mins Mata came to raid.

Ask for my NRIC and call back HQ to check my record. Then ask the ML to go down to check their WP. Ask me whether is there special services and assure me nothing will happen to me if I say out. WTF. I told Mata I had boxer on when you burgle in. What do you think?

Really spoiling all the playground.


and 1 of them have an epic response which I find it damn hilarious :D


Knn !!!!

I was just "released" after waiting and questioning at a well known spa!

Ask for my ic - and I said its in my wallet in the car. I asked them follow me to get, they gave me the sian look but agreed.

Ask if got special service - my reply is : sir, maybe if you come in 30mins later I can tell you! I have not even removedmy jeans and shoes and you ask me this redunant question! Can I ask for your badge number. He stunned and ask if I am trying to be funny! I cooly said: No, are you? If you want to charge me, read me my lines and use real cuffs and not nylon cuffs! Be sure I will like my lawyer present during our statement.

He slammed the door so hard the track broke amd door dangling! Lol!

As he walked away, I asked spa reception if I can have my money back as there was no session! Mata all stare at me ! I stare and asked again! Reception LL gave me back my money!

Wanted to ask for refund of of $1.20 parking coupon, bur decided not to push the limits and slammed the sliding door of the spa shut!!!! Mata all blurr!!!

Lol

[sadfa]

That's abuse of student pass. ICA will take a serious view of such abuse, schools cannot dictate what the students can do or not.

These school systems are loop holes like what u said. There are so many tourists passing by singapore. 2 weeks is all they get. You mention about touring from country to country... yes, the immigration of ASEAN countries are well aware of such. Once they notice the pattern of travel of the gal, they may be rejected to enter singapore. This is not new. I personally seen such before, in Woodlands check point n airport. A gal being flagged to go into office for questioning for no reason, or whole car or taxi full of gals n their OKT ( male) kena asked to go into office after their passport stamped n got called into office after that.

Nowadays, w computers, and internet, many information are linked. Difficult to do such touring n earning already

Ya lor.
Many ppl here simply don't know what's going on.

If ica allows student to work part time, DEFINITELY those who work as pros is not allowed. Its meant for those 'clean ' type of job. Like MacDonalds or even uber. Can cover work attachment beyond that of internship.

In fact if the ger caught in ktv n she only allow groping but no fucking, I doubt she'll be allowed to stay.

And if ger say she is lu Zhou singing champion n want to sing in hfj, ica will look at her like shes strikeback 4, a fucking idiot. And tell her fuck no!!

So all these borderline shit cases which av already know iz bs, all wont be allowed to work LA.


And stopping at customs damn common LA.
Garbagement even stop those human rights activists from entering spore.
And no reasons given by ica hor.

And yr example pointed out the stupidity of strike back 4.
If foreigners can b pros in spore, why stop them from entering? Cos they advertise in Internet? Haha
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Exchange points inherently stupid ma

[sadfa]

The recent Russians caught here, they on tourist pass? Or student pass?

Really who cares. Probably tourists.
Hit n run.
Come spore, hit, take money n bye bye.
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Exchange points care ma

[sadfa]

Only student pass from institutes of higher learning (eg polys, gov unis, gov invited schools) can officially work part time.. student pass from private education institutions (all those which require edutrust mark to enrol overseas students) cannot officially work part time unless industrial attachment..

So if she study in poly or famous local university, if caught sucking cock, which is perfectly legal BTW, will she be told to go home?

If caught in ktv or MP or hfj n no evidence she do hanky panky, will be told to go home?

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EXCHANGE points unclear ma

[strikeback4]

Poor Mr "SadFa"rk don't even have any backing to proof his point, can only tell us grandfather grandmother story

"He say she say" thats Hearsay

As mention many times in case you are too retard to understand or maybe you got cock in your mouth, let me ask you 1 more time

If as you say, Foreign girl are not allow to work as prostitute, please quote the Penal Code that state so :rolleyes:

Nah here is AGC, you slowly find than come back and talk sense
http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId%3A%22025e7646-947b-462c-b557-60aa55dc7b42%22%20Status%3Apublished%20Depth%3A0;r ec=0

Now I understand why so many people PM me to ignore you, because you all talk no action only, can only use hearsay of "He say she say", no solid proof at all :rolleyes:

[strikeback4]

Since Mr "Sadfa"rk keep blabbling about foreign students with student pass, maybe this will help you

http://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/work-pass-exemption-for-foreign-students

You are not allowed to work if:

You are not studying in any of the approved institutions listed below. (List is too long, you can refer to the link above for the list)
You are an exchange student doing study modules in Singapore.

You must apply for a work pass if you want to take a leave of absence during your school term to do additional industrial attachments that do not contribute towards your graduation.

And to answer your question if school will expel students or not, that is not based on the law, its the school decision, as Armor88 stated, please don't mix up Social Stigma with the Law

[jacky43]

Is better to be arrested by AV and, receive medical attention at Kelantan's Clinic for HIV then rob. Need to mention certain robbers got rid of victims. No witness that is in many PRC crime movies. One such is "saving Mr Wu".

Guys, stay tune to 21 May "Crime Watch' at 830 pm on C5.

[strikeback4]

Is better to be arrested by AV and, receive medical attention at Kelantan's Clinic for HIV then rob. Need to mention certain robbers got rid of victims. No witness that is in many PRC crime movies. One such is "saving Mr Wu".

Guys, stay tune to 21 May "Crime Watch' at 830 pm on C5.

Actually quite common for people to rob those online escorts, because they knew that those stable are already illegal, and if kana rob what can they do? report to police meh? than let the police know what they are doing? :eek:

[jacky43]

Actually quite common for people to rob those online escorts, because they knew that those stable are already illegal, and if kana rob what can they do? report to police meh? than let the police know what they are doing? :eek:

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I kind of looking forward to tonight Crime Watch. The actress who acted as WL r SYT. That I am afraid is the attraction. Of course Crime Watch is educational and, we must not believe everythings.

Till now I only agreed with SGsecure. Is not how it happen bec we saw enough in news. Is when it happen?

[cathai]

Is better to be arrested by AV and, receive medical attention at Kelantan's Clinic for HIV then rob. Need to mention certain robbers got rid of victims. No witness that is in many PRC crime movies. One such is "saving Mr Wu".

Guys, stay tune to 21 May "Crime Watch' at 830 pm on C5.

fully agreed with you,.

[KnowItAll]

So if she study in poly or famous local university, if caught sucking cock, which is perfectly legal BTW, will she be told to go home?

Go home.

If caught in ktv or MP or hfj n no evidence she do hanky panky, will be told to go home?


no evidence hanky panky but got evidence work.. go home

no evidence hanky panky and work.. police inform school n ica n cpe.. school's decision.. case by case depending..

[Beretta]

I have a friend who is teaching English at one of the private schools. She related to me an incident where one of her PRC student came to her for advise. This student was caught working in a nightclub and the school head called her up a few days later after being notified by the police. The student told my friend that she was given the choice of either being expelled and have her student pass cancelled or become the head's sugarbabe and he will cover up her outside activities for her until her graduation. My friend did not know how to advise her so related the incident to us.

[newyorker88]

I have a friend who is teaching English at one of the private schools. She related to me an incident where one of her PRC student came to her for advise. This student was caught working in a nightclub and the school head called her up a few days later after being notified by the police. The student told my friend that she was given the choice of either being expelled and have her student pass cancelled or become the head's sugarbabe and he will cover up her outside activities for her until her graduation. My friend did not know how to advise her so related the incident to us.

I doubt the head of the school is telling the truth, how can he go against the authorities? It is up to the authorities to decide. Maybe the head try to take advantage n end of day ask the student to fuck off.

[sadfa]

I have a friend who is teaching English at one of the private schools. She related to me an incident where one of her PRC student came to her for advise. This student was caught working in a nightclub and the school head called her up a few days later after being notified by the police. The student told my friend that she was given the choice of either being expelled and have her student pass cancelled or become the head's sugarbabe and he will cover up her outside activities for her until her graduation. My friend did not know how to advise her so related the incident to us.

Go record school head proposition to her n give to police, CPE n cb media lor. Give to cpib also

Obviously asking sex in exchange for protection is serious case.

In the ensuing turmoil, the ger wont be sent home cos how to send victim n prime witness home?
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Exchange points cunning ma

[sadfa]

Is

Guys, stay tune to 21 May "Crime Watch' at 830 pm on C5.

Why. Are u being featured in it. Haha
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Exchange points say also don't know how to say ma

[strikeback4]

That is why useless cunt like Sadfa if got nothing good to say should learn to shut the fuck up... Talk so much rubbish about the law when he don't understand anything about the penal code... Now become a coward like a dog hiding in the hole and avoiding the topic

Morale of the story... Do your homework 1st before you come out and sprout rubbish Sadfa :rolleyes: