Online pimp sentenced to 24 months' jail, fined $83,000

[skyleon]

Wan Ting Koh

Yahoo News Singapore 25 May 2017


Roderic Chen Hao Ran was sentenced in the State Courts on 26 May. (Yahoo Singapore photo: Safhras Khan)
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A pimp who operated an online social escort business for over two years from 2015 was sentenced to 24 months’ jail and fined S$83,000 on Friday (26 May)

Roderic Chen Hao Ran, 32, pleaded guilty to nine charges under the Women’s Charter on 9 March this year. These include five counts of living in part on the earnings of prostitution and three counts of procuring women for prostitution.

Chen also pleaded guilty to a new provision under the Women’s Charter – the operation of a mobile phone line that offered the provision of sexual services by multiple women to other persons in return for payment.

Chen’s case is the first to be concluded under the new provision, which took effect on 1 July last year. The provision, which was read by Social and Family Development Minister Tan Chuan-Jin in February 2016, is meant to target vice syndicates operating online.

Another 17 charges similar charges and one charge under the Protection from Harassment Act were taken into consideration for sentencing.

Chen had first learned how to operate a social escort company from a fellow inmate while he was serving a prison stint. After he was released in 2011, Chen set up an employment agency but the business did not do well and incurred debts.

As a result, Chen started the online social escort service in 2015 to pay off his debts. Chen met a co-accused, Lee Soon Ann, 37, and they agreed to cooperate and share the social escorts under their charge as well as the commissions.

Chen and Lee started operating their business providing prostitutes via their websites for an hourly rate of between $450 and $650.

The two would place advertisements on the websites and girls who were interested would call and send in their personal particulars and photographs. The girls were informed beforehand that they might have to provide sexual services to clients.

The pair would take and share a cut of about 40 per cent from each woman per assignment. Their business involved 12 prostitutes in total.

The police, acting on a tip-off, eventually raided Chen’s house in Compassvale Walk on 27 July 2016 and he was arrested. Lee, who was arrested later, has not yet been dealt with in court.

Over the 30 months of operations, Chen earned about S$5,000 a month and some $150,000 in total.

The prosecution, represented by Deputy Public Prosecutor Gail Wong, sought 25 months’ jail and a fine of $83,000.

Referring to the new provision, DPP Wong said that Chen’s use of an online website and a phone line exploited the “expansive reach of this medium, which is able to reach many more customers over and above traditional pimping though physical communications”.


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[jacky43]

He is making tons of $ his counterparts got red eyes. Next time he should share his earning with his partners. Or else close down the biz. Office politics brought his downfall.

[conquer]

Chen earned about S$5,000 a month and some $150,000 in total.

Seriously? Offend the law for just $5K per month? :confused:

Nabeh, go drive Uber can earn more than this.

[sadfa]

Seriously? Offend the law for just $5K per month? :confused:

Nabeh, go drive Uber can earn more than this.

Drive uber can't earn u 5k la. Don't mislead the gong Here.

5k at 40% means average 12 k a month.
Assuming average 500 one ger, means 24 deals a month. If one month he got few gers on hand, say 6 different gers, means only 4 deals per ger a month!!
Like that the GEr run off to other pimps Liao la

Maybe av tio pian or hes a lazy unmotivated pimp la
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Exchange points don't add up ma

[conquer]

Drive uber can't earn u 5k la. Don't mislead the gong Here.

5k at 40% means average 12 k a month.
Assuming average 500 one ger, means 24 deals a month. If one month he got few gers on hand, say 6 different gers, means only 4 deals per ger a month!!
Like that the GEr run off to other pimps Liao la

Maybe av tio pian or hes a lazy unmotivated pimp la
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Exchange points don't add up ma

But don't you think offending the laws for earning $5K/month is a little too less. I mean, you smoke in MRT also get fined $1K lah. Now you go become an OKT for just $5K... WTF!

He is indeed an unmotivated OKT. :(

[sadfa]

But don't you think offending the laws for earning $5K/month is a little too less. I mean, you smoke in MRT also get fined $1K lah. Now you go become an OKT for just $5K... WTF!

He is indeed an unmotivated OKT. :(

Not 5k la.
150k!! And pay 83k fine ok

The question is is it worth go jail 2 years for 77k!!

But that's not complete picture.
Cos he can't pay 83k, he'll squat longer than 2 Years. Maybe 3 to 4 years.

And its not stated but garbagement can go seize 150k from him. If he got zero assets, means squat even longer!

Anyway got market rate for squatting for u la. Gt ppl willing to squat for 5k for one month. 120k for 2 years, not bad la for some ppl
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EXCHANGE POINTS KNOW MATHEMATICS MA

[xqueen]

Not 5k la. 150k!!
The question is is it worth go jail 2 years for 150k

no jail worth, and jail of cos not worth. they always hope they will not get caught ...

I think those pimps also fuck their girls ... maybe for free

[sadfa]

no jail worth, and jail of cos not worth. they always hope they will not get caught ...

I think those pimps also fuck their girls ... maybe for free

Then these ppl dumb lo.

If ppl pay you 5K BE drug mule worth it if u first timer n u carry soft drugs but if give u one brick of fucking heroin, u think worth it bo.

U say mmmm no thanks.
They give u 15k carry, u will accept ma.
Or u negotiate ten trips at 200k?
I bet drug dealer smile. Cos u wont make 5 trips much less ten trips

And I don't understand why ppl keep talking about fucking gers for free.
U think the ger dumb?
Fuck one time, shes newbie, she say OK.
But fuck foc 3 times a week, u think the ger will take it. And got case the okt go overboard, say QC, say must train ger cos custy complain, its the ger who sabo pimp ok
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EXCHANGE points got cost benefit analysis ma

[Blue Grass]

Seriously? Offend the law for just $5K per month? :confused:

Nabeh, go drive Uber can earn more than this.

Uber driver can make $5000.00 per month ? Sure or not ?

[wankpuffin]

Uber driver can make $5000.00 per month ? Sure or not ?

Listen with a pinch of salt.

[fucksticks]

Listen with a pinch of salt.

Best be fucksticks.

[numpty]

This pimp is numpty.

[butterycookies]

This pimp is buttery.

[prasit]

Listen with a pinch of salt.

Listen and wank on your puffin.

[shithappen]

Best be fucksticks.

Same thoughts here.

[Embrent]

no jail worth, and jail of cos not worth. they always hope they will not get caught ...

I think those pimps also fuck their girls ... maybe for free

Kong Hee more worth, few millions only sit few years

[conquer]

Uber driver can make $5000.00 per month ? Sure or not ?

Hmm... Maybe not. I guess it depends on how you run the job. It's just like some businessmen earn millions of dollars, but some ended up go bankrupt.

I mean, since this man has decided to break the law by becoming an OKT, why not take it further. Go big or go home. If he will be caught, he will be caught eventually. :p

[conquer]

And I don't understand why ppl keep talking about fucking gers for free.
U think the ger dumb?
Fuck one time, shes newbie, she say OK.
But fuck foc 3 times a week, u think the ger will take it. And got case the okt go overboard, say QC, say must train ger cos custy complain, its the ger who sabo pimp ok
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EXCHANGE points got cost benefit analysis ma

I have read a thread in FL Dome2 few years back: there was an OKT fucking the chicken worked under him for free, some even went raw. Given such an alluring benefit, It makes the profession of OKT so attractive... :D

[Ryanpand]

I have read a thread in FL Dome2 few years back: there was an OKT fucking the chicken worked under him for free, some even went raw. Given such an alluring benefit, It makes the profession of OKT so attractive... :D

This was Johnny/Justin/David from True Enjoyment / Pandora. Lots of their gals all screwed raw by them without the FL knowing they kenna raw.....Crystabel/Sandy, Kendra/Cindy Song, Frey/Amber Tan, etc. Job perk ? Lol.

[sadfa]

This was Johnny/Justin/David from True Enjoyment / Pandora. Lots of their gals all screwed raw by them without the FL knowing they kenna raw.....Crystabel/Sandy, Kendra/Cindy Song, Frey/Amber Tan, etc. Job perk ? Lol.

How they so dumb don't know kanna raw?

Hope these pimps get something...
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EXCHANGE points unaware ma

[sadfa]

I have read a thread in FL Dome2 few years back: there was an OKT fucking the chicken worked under him for free, some even went raw. Given such an alluring benefit, It makes the profession of OKT so attractive... :D

This is call cheap thrill n cheapskate la.

If u own restaurant, u wont go eat free meals everyday cos the wagyu beef ,high grade abalone etc is owned by u n more u eat, less u earn.

But these pimps think cos fuckin is free to them n unlimted so keep fucking them free lo.

Haizz....

These gers after make their money should anonymously sabo these pimps. Cos no one likes being taken advantage

But in overseas, got pimps fuck their Gers for free. But this is more sexual slavery n to proof they own the ger
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Exchange points cheap thrill ma

[Ryanpand]

How they so dumb don't know kanna raw?

Hope these pimps get something...
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EXCHANGE points unaware ma

Dirty trick mah. Start with condom and remove halfway thru . Hard to know for the gal. Some naive like crystabel/sandy who blur like sotong, some slut like Frey/amber Tan who will do anything for money. Well at least the
Pimps are in jail after Kendra/Cindy Song tua them after she got pregnant I think...but wasted. Those were great gals. Legends here.

[sadfa]

Dirty trick mah. Start with condom and remove halfway thru . Hard to know for the gal. Some naive like crystabel/sandy who blur like sotong, some slut like Frey/amber Tan who will do anything for money. Well at least the
Pimps are in jail after Kendra/Cindy Song tua them after she got pregnant I think...but wasted. Those were great gals. Legends here.

Instead of saying wasted, wish them well they left the trade so they aren't in the clutches of fucked up ppl la
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Exchange points the bigger man ma

[wannacry]

Really wannacry lol

[sgjoey]

How will the sex industry survive without pimps? These guys perform a useful service, and in return are paid for their work. It's a job.

Pimping is illegal in Singapore. But the reason why is baffling. It is supposed to be exploiting women or something like that.... but the women need the pimps. Without them, they wouldn't be able to work.

[Ohaicomezaimas]

Really zaimas LOL

[xqueen]

Kong Hee more worth, few millions only sit few years

agree bro, and after he out lot of people still listen to him ... he is like a religions pimp

[sadfa]

How will the sex industry survive without pimps? These guys perform a useful service, and in return are paid for their work. It's a job.

Pimping is illegal in Singapore. But the reason why is baffling. It is supposed to be exploiting women or something like that.... but the women need the pimps. Without them, they wouldn't be able to work.

Don't defend the pimps la.

Its already been stated Here how jialat jialat some pimps are.

Some gl pimps are enforcers but online pimps are enforcers ma? Enforcers n bouncers are required for small cases where the johns are assholes but sometimes the gl pimps bully customers cos their gals offer fucked up service . Gals blow ten seconds, ride on u 5 min n demand u cum. U don't, they kaopeh to pimps n pimp use gangster tactics on u

If enforcers not required, then gal pay 40 to 50% commission simply for pimps customer list.
But if customers is get from here or other websites, is it then worth it ?

Some gers here cooperate n take appointments themselves. And save 40% commission. Of cos they don't take a cut so they aren't pimps

So its not a given that pimps are required

N WHY pimping is illegal isnt baffling.
Simply put, they're engaging in morally wrong activities n in other countries n historically, pimps actually create more problems to prostitutes
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Exchange points baffling ma

[sgjoey]

Pimps perform a useful service. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.

Even in dome 2, where the China ladies are mostly free lancers, they need someone to advertise their availability. These are the online pimps. Customers never ever see them and they may not even operate from here. But they are still a necessary link to the chain.

The true free lancer nowadays who works for herself and does everything herself is a rarity.

Of cos like all professions, there are good pimps and bad pimps -- those who rough up customers or treat their girls badly are the black sheep.

[sadfa]

Pimps perform a useful service. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.

Even in dome 2, where the China ladies are mostly free lancers, they need someone to advertise their availability. These are the online pimps. Customers never ever see them and they may not even operate from here. But they are still a necessary link to the chain.

The true free lancer nowadays who works for herself and does everything herself is a rarity.

Of cos like all professions, there are good pimps and bad pimps -- those who rough up customers or treat their girls badly are the black sheep.

What you are referring to is the webmaster la. Hes the one who runs the website advertising gals service.

Strictly speaking, according to police hes a pimp cos anyone who live off immoral earnings of a pros is a pimp, but I bet thats not what u mean

The guy arrested is the real pimp.
He probably post ads for his pros n he also arranges her appointments.

The big difference is webmaster don't have Johns as customers. He don't make appointments cos no john contact him. Johns contact gal directly. The gal pay him, he put up her ad.

If gal needs more business, the pimp will call his regulars. The webmaster can't.

Cos prostitution is a clandestine business, the gers will gravitate to pimps but after say few weeks n gals know the business, they don't need pimp liao.

Even those prc gers who use webmaster don't have a pimp. They'll tell u they don't have pimp n are paying a guy to advertise their services.

Its true that there're very few gals who r independent. But that doesn't mean pimps are indispensable or necessary. That's flawed reasoning. Thats like saying diamonds are ex cos they're rare. But in fact they're not that rare but held in stock n not released by the mines thus driving up the price.

To give u an example, many locals complain about their pimps. Saying they do all the work but the pimps get huge commission for making calls. It goes to show even they know how unbalanced this business is

It just shows how fucked up gals are not to exit their comfort zones. And get chop for so much money.

U need to ask: what exactly pimps do for so much money.
The pimps aren't enforcers.
Last time got this garang pimp beat up customer damn jialat.
Naturally he report police n all end up go jail. So pimps aren't dumb n wont go out to exact revenge or justice for their gals

Btw we are talking about different models of prostitution. I already pointed out why some models don't need pimps. But some like those gl mafu need. Some like those who import foreign gals also need or rather they make themselves indispensable but actually isn't
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Exchange points necessary ma