Is this FL meant for me?

[yuddle]

Its been awhile since visiting a FL and this time picking the FL was quite strange cos I picked a FL not for her looks but my "feeling" towards the OKT's ad pics.

Turning into a big problem now cos I ended up envisioning us together during the session and rather creepily, I decided not to shower before sleeping after the session cos I wanted to hold on to the scent of the night.

She seems to like me and I seem to like her too...age was not too incompatible...now i dunno what to do.

Might book another session just to see her. Die liao la.

[sammyboyfor]

You're fucked because you don't know how to play this game.

[yuddle]

You're fucked because you don't know how to play this game.

thanks for the comment...you are right...

[sammyboyfor]

thanks for the comment...you are right...

https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=148840

[XiaoYaoZi]

Good luck man..

[RTTO]

Might book another session just to see her. Die liao la.

Bro, transactional, transactional, transactional!

[Linnie]

Its been awhile since visiting a FL and this time picking the FL was quite strange cos I picked a FL not for her looks but my "feeling" towards the OKT's ad pics. Turning into a big problem now cos I ended up envisioning us together during the session and rather creepily, I decided not to shower before sleeping after the session cos I wanted to hold on to the scent of the night.
She seems to like me and I seem to like her too...age was not too incompatible...now i dunno what to do.
Might book another session just to see her. Die liao la.

I am going to sound controversial. Bro, I think you just go ahead enjoy this infatuation. Take it easy, recognize this is an infatuation and let it flow. The more you resist seeing her again, the more agonizing it gets and your infatuation will grow bigger. I never find trying to win the game or resisting to be the solution. Taking things easy is the best!

Lately I also got infatuated with an FL. I never had such a special feeling with any girl before. She is adorable and admirable. Also same you la, --"she seems to like me and I seem to like her too"--. However, after RTF few times already, my rationality kicks back. Firstly, I am not the number one in her heart, maybe number twelve :rolleyes: or number 99 :eek:. Secondly, we can never walk together because different lifestyles.

[yuddle]

I am going to sound controversial. Bro, I think you just go ahead enjoy this infatuation. Take it easy, recognize this is an infatuation and let it flow. The more you resist seeing her again, the more agonizing it gets and your infatuation will grow bigger. I never find trying to win the game or resisting to be the solution. Taking things easy is the best!

Lately I also got infatuated with an FL. I never had such a special feeling with any girl before. She is adorable and admirable. Also same you la, --"she seems to like me and I seem to like her too"--. However, after RTF few times already, my rationality kicks back. Firstly, I am not the number one in her heart, maybe number twelve :rolleyes: or number 99 :eek:. Secondly, we can never walk together because different lifestyles.

thanks for the update bro. i find your comment insightful. i hope for the best...

[yuddle]

yes bro, that is the attitude i've implemented yet i still have a more than pleasant experience around her.

Bro, transactional, transactional, transactional!

[yuddle]

Good luck man..

thanks bro...upz for your encouragement

[yuddle]

https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=148840

yes, agree

[yuddle]

update...so today i met her again and the night was nice and cosy...i think the key here is like all risky matters...define the groundrules quickly, ask what the cost is upfront and be willing to fail.:cool:

[nutman38]

TS, just find more different FL or WL and you will be cure!:p

[Suchos]

Its been awhile since visiting a FL and this time picking the FL was quite strange cos I picked a FL not for her looks but my "feeling" towards the OKT's ad pics.

Turning into a big problem now cos I ended up envisioning us together during the session and rather creepily, I decided not to shower before sleeping after the session cos I wanted to hold on to the scent of the night.

She seems to like me and I seem to like her too...age was not too incompatible...now i dunno what to do.

Might book another session just to see her. Die liao la.

KCED max. Do not go again. U need to travel abroad.

[ibanezjem555]

We pay so that they will go away. We pay so, no obligation. You go your way, I go mine..

This ML, wah ever since book her, everyday she send me text, pictures of mid-autumn festival and now chinese proverbs (don't ask me what my cheena half past six). Two nights ago, playing with hp almost accidentally made a video watsapp call to her.. wah OC just beside me !

Just now, teasing massage, another ML kc say she like me, I kc like her, hee hee ha ha.. accidentally spillage (now to think of it she purposely, give me HDLY HJ).. in my mind, wah so nice.. give her normal HJ rate $50 now so gfe.. or $25 half price since teasing I no ask her to do me.. chap siao lah, gave her $10 tip, she say thank you, I say hee hee ha ha.. bye bye.. ai mai swah..

Don't get KC by ML or FL.. she suck our army and money nebermind, still can balek manufacture.. steal your time, mind and family.. jiatliat liao lo !

[yuddle]

We pay so that they will go away. We pay so, no obligation. You go your way, I go mine..

This ML, wah ever since book her, everyday she send me text, pictures of mid-autumn festival and now chinese proverbs (don't ask me what my cheena half past six). Two nights ago, playing with hp almost accidentally made a video watsapp call to her.. wah OC just beside me !

Just now, teasing massage, another ML kc say she like me, I kc like her, hee hee ha ha.. accidentally spillage (now to think of it she purposely, give me HDLY HJ).. in my mind, wah so nice.. give her normal HJ rate $50 now so gfe.. or $25 half price since teasing I no ask her to do me.. chap siao lah, gave her $10 tip, she say thank you, I say hee hee ha ha.. bye bye.. ai mai swah..

Don't get KC by ML or FL.. she suck our army and money nebermind, still can balek manufacture.. steal your time, mind and family.. jiatliat liao lo !

yes bro...but i no family to speak off...doesnt really steal my time and is very pretty worh!

[lawry]

yes bro...but i no family to speak off...doesnt really steal my time and is very pretty worh!

How much you earn?

[conquer]

yes bro...but i no family to speak off...doesnt really steal my time and is very pretty worh!

You don't have father, mother, brother, sister? These people are not your family?

You think these people do not need you to spend time with them? :o

How much you earn?

This dude must be pretty rich as he can waste his time for a chicken just like that.

We are still cracking our head day and night to figure out how to earn more money, job promotion, etc.:p

[yuddle]

How much you earn?

incl commissions, incentives and perks, about $3000

[yuddle]

You don't have father, mother, brother, sister? These people are not your family?

You think these people do not need you to spend time with them? :o



This dude must be pretty rich as he can waste his time for a chicken just like that.

We are still cracking our head day and night to figure out how to earn more money, job promotion, etc.:p

hahahah no no bro, all here struggling to make ends meet, but if you got extramoney pls donate so i can treat my chicken better and get more gfe


yes sure have family but even if its not a chicken, still must have outside time to meet people be it networking for your career, or going on adventures of your choice!

[Shadow_warrior]

Its been awhile since visiting a FL and this time picking the FL was quite strange cos I picked a FL not for her looks but my "feeling" towards the OKT's ad pics.

Turning into a big problem now cos I ended up envisioning us together during the session and rather creepily, I decided not to shower before sleeping after the session cos I wanted to hold on to the scent of the night.

She seems to like me and I seem to like her too...age was not too incompatible...now i dunno what to do.

Might book another session just to see her. Die liao la.

why would you fall for someone who has been with everyone?

even if she quits for you, when you fall "in love" remember she has been loved by everyone as well for a price.

[yuddle]

why would you fall for someone who has been with everyone?

even if she quits for you, when you fall "in love" remember she has been loved by everyone as well for a price.

rather than marry a virgin who checks my phone, pretends to be interested in what i have to say or uses me as a status symbol, i think i'm doing fine

[sexylanjiao]

KC trap bro, beware

[ibanezjem555]

For FLs, money is no enough wan.

You blow your entire salary on her.. behind in her mind, she will still be thinking I can earn another XX more a pop with another customer in an hour.

Soon, to attract her attention, you will give her prada, LV etc.. it will never be enough.. but she will still be doing that mental calculation of how much more $$ a pop. Even if she is married, she will be calculating when she is at home cooking dinner or looking after child. It is easy money. Not saying bad, but like everyone else, time is money to her. In her mind, you are one source of passive income and she must make more streams of incomes as she knows her shelf-life also short.

Next, you will think to 'save' her from a FL lifestyle. Well, FL got pride too and to them it is an independent lifestyle. To say 'save them' is implying their current situation is not desirable. They earn money and happy. Back in China, what they earn in one month, in two or three days here they earn already. Happy like bird in Spore. They want SG men to sponsor a few meals, take them out, buy them a few nice things so that they can conserve $$ to bring home.

That's life. Everyone will do this:- max income. Don't get KCed. Many fishes in ocean. Yes, local fishes are jiatlat, but FLs can be jiatlat too. Not necessarily grass is greener on the other side. Often it is not. Many Bros here can testify.

PS: My current regular ML is married to a SGman 18 yrs here senior. It is her second marriage. First marriage in China. Now, she works as ML and has a 8 year old kid with SGman. SG hubby knows she is ML but his earnings cannot support the child (Spore is too expensive). They even rent out their rooms in HDB flat and her child sleeps with them in master bedroom (yes, 3 bedroom hdb). No education, so learn to be ML after Spore marriage. Previously, she work as cleaner in kopitiam (yes, passable looks type). Always tell her everything is ok.. pass one day at a time and be happy. She draw the line and I draw my line. She no disturb me and I call her when I need massage. Happy to see each other and keep it at arm's length.

[km69]

https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=148840

Bro yuddle, pls read this bro. I was once in your position, I ignore all the advices telling me to avoid this kc trap and now I really regret whenever I think about it again.

[Shadow_warrior]

rather than marry a virgin who checks my phone, pretends to be interested in what i have to say or uses me as a status symbol, i think i'm doing fine

as what SBF boss said, you don't know how to play this game

[yuddle]

Bro yuddle, pls read this bro. I was once in your position, I ignore all the advices telling me to avoid this kc trap and now I really regret whenever I think about it again.

I am keeping things at arms length. When i visit, i play the poor man and pay the stipulated amount or less. When she asks for money, I say ok, but i dont pay. When i pay, its because I am taking her out, and I pay less than the amount for a sex session,cos this is the rule.

Am I stupider than a normal person? I dont think so. Can someone dream of meeting his other half in terrible conditions? Must be kind and say give it a try mah...

[yuddle]

as what SBF boss said, you don't know how to play this game

Bro...this game was invented even before you were born! How many rounds of my ancestors play this game till I pop out from my mother's womb. I'm born ready:cool:

[yuddle]

commend your rational behaviour bro.


For FLs, money is no enough wan.

You blow your entire salary on her.. behind in her mind, she will still be thinking I can earn another XX more a pop with another customer in an hour.

Soon, to attract her attention, you will give her prada, LV etc.. it will never be enough.. but she will still be doing that mental calculation of how much more $$ a pop. Even if she is married, she will be calculating when she is at home cooking dinner or looking after child. It is easy money. Not saying bad, but like everyone else, time is money to her. In her mind, you are one source of passive income and she must make more streams of incomes as she knows her shelf-life also short.

Next, you will think to 'save' her from a FL lifestyle. Well, FL got pride too and to them it is an independent lifestyle. To say 'save them' is implying their current situation is not desirable. They earn money and happy. Back in China, what they earn in one month, in two or three days here they earn already. Happy like bird in Spore. They want SG men to sponsor a few meals, take them out, buy them a few nice things so that they can conserve $$ to bring home.

That's life. Everyone will do this:- max income. Don't get KCed. Many fishes in ocean. Yes, local fishes are jiatlat, but FLs can be jiatlat too. Not necessarily grass is greener on the other side. Often it is not. Many Bros here can testify.

PS: My current regular ML is married to a SGman 18 yrs here senior. It is her second marriage. First marriage in China. Now, she works as ML and has a 8 year old kid with SGman. SG hubby knows she is ML but his earnings cannot support the child (Spore is too expensive). They even rent out their rooms in HDB flat and her child sleeps with them in master bedroom (yes, 3 bedroom hdb). No education, so learn to be ML after Spore marriage. Previously, she work as cleaner in kopitiam (yes, passable looks type). Always tell her everything is ok.. pass one day at a time and be happy. She draw the line and I draw my line. She no disturb me and I call her when I need massage. Happy to see each other and keep it at arm's length.

[ibanezjem555]

Yup bro, don't get KCed.

And keep 2 or 3 spare tires in your phone contacts. Rotate them like you rotate the tires of car. Then, no problem.. like we don't give special preference to any of the tires of our car, right ? .. they come and go..

The money of the prada bag you want to give to her.. keep money aside to find spare tires. Long run you stay more rational and calm, your feelings are not toyed with, no mind games involved..

If you want to gfe, go ntuc buy her a box of ferrero, pop to gift shop buy a cute paper bag put a ribbon on one of regular visit..

One of our bro above send the link.. start reading from last page.. very useful..:cool:

[yuddle]

turns out she is out of the country as she could not get enough customers after all. she broke contact quickly and i am left alone again lol. welcome myself back to forum 1 i suppose.


Yup bro, don't get KCed.

And keep 2 or 3 spare tires in your phone contacts. Rotate them like you rotate the tires of car. Then, no problem.. like we don't give special preference to any of the tires of our car, right ? .. they come and go..

The money of the prada bag you want to give to her.. keep money aside to find spare tires. Long run you stay more rational and calm, your feelings are not toyed with, no mind games involved..

If you want to gfe, go ntuc buy her a box of ferrero, pop to gift shop buy a cute paper bag put a ribbon on one of regular visit..

One of our bro above send the link.. start reading from last page.. very useful..:cool:

[ibanezjem555]

Lucky you then... ;)

turns out she is out of the country as she could not get enough customers after all. she broke contact quickly and i am left alone again lol. welcome myself back to forum 1 i suppose.

[yuddle]

don't like that la...


YOU silly boy you should have taken all your savings even go to loan shark if needed, to get enough money to keep her near you, but now your chance of true love forever gone, you will never find another soul mate like her again

[yuddle]

in the end...one has to really fuck and go...

[ibanezjem555]

Yes, for FL & WL... don't be too clingy to them... as mentioned, always have a few spares and make an effort to rotate so that they won't take your patronage for granted..

[arsenal_84]

well, one of my past favorite FL is back in sg again.
however this time, she has a bf in sg so i merely just treat her dinner and listen to her complains nia and nothing more.
have known her for the past 3 years, if i were to comfort her until to the point of bonking her then i would be no different from an @sshole or a 3rd party.
saw some guys on the street throwing her some dirty looks yesterday as she is quite a looker.

i'm determined to see how an ex ang pai like her can work her way back to normal decent life as i have told her before my greatest wish for her is to see how she can return to a normal life, considering she might be one of the richest FL i even bonk, in terms of the savings and properties she owned.

congrats to the guy who managed to won her heart and put up with all her messy lifestyle attributes.
if it was for me, i would have find it hard to stomach.

dear TS,
you need to draw a line between infatuation and true love cause true love for cases with FL can be as messy as it gets.

[blackknight24Ba]

Yes, for FL & WL... don't be too clingy to them... as mentioned, always have a few spares and make an effort to rotate so that they won't take your patronage for granted..

u r really experienced hehe, fully agree :D

[yuddle]

well, one of my past favorite FL is back in sg again.
however this time, she has a bf in sg so i merely just treat her dinner and listen to her complains nia and nothing more.
have known her for the past 3 years, if i were to comfort her until to the point of bonking her then i would be no different from an @sshole or a 3rd party.
saw some guys on the street throwing her some dirty looks yesterday as she is quite a looker.

i'm determined to see how an ex ang pai like her can work her way back to normal decent life as i have told her before my greatest wish for her is to see how she can return to a normal life, considering she might be one of the richest FL i even bonk, in terms of the savings and properties she owned.

congrats to the guy who managed to won her heart and put up with all her messy lifestyle attributes.
if it was for me, i would have find it hard to stomach.

dear TS,
you need to draw a line between infatuation and true love cause true love for cases with FL can be as messy as it gets.


Strong post bro. Thanks for the share. I'm sure it was infatuation, waiting for something more to develop. Alas, no reply and gone gold on comms so I'll just wait till something else comes along.

[yuddle]

lol. same same. We pay so that they will go away. We pay so, no obligation. You go your way, I go mine..

This ML, wah ever since book her, everyday she send me text, pictures of mid-autumn festival and now chinese proverbs (don't ask me what my cheena half past six). Two nights ago, playing with hp almost accidentally made a video watsapp call to her.. wah OC just beside me !

Just now, teasing massage, another ML kc say she like me, I kc like her, hee hee ha ha.. accidentally spillage (now to think of it she purposely, give me HDLY HJ).. in my mind, wah so nice.. give her normal HJ rate $50 now so gfe.. or $25 half price since teasing I no ask her to do me.. chap siao lah, gave her $10 tip, she say thank you, I say hee hee ha ha.. bye bye.. ai mai swah..

Don't get KC by ML or FL.. she suck our army and money nebermind, still can balek manufacture.. steal your time, mind and family.. jiatliat liao lo !

[yuddle]

i still believe not all relationships need to be built on true love...if one can talk, and sacrifice and make time for each other, then isn't it enough? not like your child will look any different if you have love for the person or if you don't:D

[Shadow_warrior]

Bro...this game was invented even before you were born! How many rounds of my ancestors play this game till I pop out from my mother's womb. I'm born ready:cool:

seems you talk big before you could play

well seems you lost the game since you fell her her and not her you, but no loss(not much) since the girl is the one who walked away.

[yuddle]

seems you talk big before you could play

well seems you lost the game since you fell her her and not her you, but no loss(not much) since the girl is the one who walked away.

this is sammy boy forum. the world needs people to fall for fls to remind the fls that they are still human and lovable. as always, just happy to be here and to experience it as how it is

[ibanezjem555]

No lah... not experienced just burnt ... all that massage money spent could have bought many guitars..ha ha..

The experienced ones are the FLs, MLs, WLs.. they everyday see many.. ha ha ;)

u r really experienced hehe, fully agree :D

[ibanezjem555]

Just happy TS escape (either which way.. as long as escape).. before it is too late..

... but no loss(not much) since the girl is the one who walked away.

[Shadow_warrior]

this is sammy boy forum. the world needs people to fall for fls to remind the fls that they are still human and lovable. as always, just happy to be here and to experience it as how it is

you are right this also is needed to remind the world why the smart 1% owns half the worlds wealth, and why the 20/80 rule exists, because without these people to fall for FLs, people will wonder why is it so injust the world we live in where supposedly people are EQUAL but why the wealth disparity. With people like you describe, instead we can see why there is the smart ones who DONT fall for FL and the NOT so SMART ones who fall for FL then waste their time and money chasing.

mused, he just told us which percentage he is

[yuddle]

haha, but i dont need you!


spoken as the young newbie you are to the game. but keep believing in your "wise words and retorts"

we need people like you around, you help us feel great about ourselves.

[Shadow_warrior]

haha, but i dont need you!

arhhhh....don't be like that. we need young lads like you. if not where got laughs

just teasing. don't take it so serious

[yuddle]

haha, same la, ka kok!

arhhhh....don't be like that. we need young lads like you. if not where got laughs

just teasing. don't take it so serious

[nutman38]

since aug 2016 i started a excel sheet to keep track of the FL i bonked so i can remeber who or who i have not bonked so far its 382, when you get to that level i find it hard for you NOT to look back at your words and laugh at yourself also

wow, 382 since August 2016.
You average 1 per day?
You so rich manz! :p

I can only afford 2 bonks per month. :(

[yuddle]

since aug 2016 i started a excel sheet to keep track of the FL i bonked so i can remeber who or who i have not bonked so far its 382, when you get to that level i find it hard for you NOT to look back at your words and laugh at yourself also

nice bro. thinking of starting a blog. sometimes i get the feeling like the bonk is a past bonk without being sure.

[reborn80]

Start from friends first. If u really like her

[egresnow]

Start from friends first. If u really like her

this reply tho LOL

[loneyheart]

this reply tho LOL

Re-upped u bro thxs :)

[yuddle]

this is quite true. i do go out with her on the weekends, together with her work-mates.






Start from friends first. If u really like her

[egresnow]

this is quite true. i do go out with her on the weekends, together with her work-mates.


oh god. do you pay for the food and ride?

[yuddle]

oh god. do you pay for the food and ride?

hmm, sometimes i meet them after food, in which case i dont pay. sometimes i join them, but they will share, like 3 ppl share two plates so its still affordable. this week i plan to spend a little more though, i see them as work tourists, so i'll show them abit of the good life in sg.

i plan to live in thailand at some points, so knowing her work-mates as a contact in the country isnt bad either.

[aseandude]

Your fl from the land of smiles must have looked like Julia Roberts.

You yourself must strike a resemblance to Richard Gere.

And the song will play like this,


Pretty woman, walkin' down the street
Pretty woman the kind I like to meet
Pretty woman I don't believe you, you're not the truth
No one could look as good as you, mercy
Pretty woman won't you pardon me
Pretty woman I couldn't help but see
Pretty woman that you look lovely as can be
Are you lonely just like me...

[yuddle]

:p if only life were that great...


Your fl from the land of smiles must have looked like Julia Roberts.

You yourself must strike a resemblance to Richard Gere.

And the song will play like this,


Pretty woman, walkin' down the street
Pretty woman the kind I like to meet
Pretty woman I don't believe you, you're not the truth
No one could look as good as you, mercy
Pretty woman won't you pardon me
Pretty woman I couldn't help but see
Pretty woman that you look lovely as can be
Are you lonely just like me...

[alfonse]

Nice sharing of your story TS. I almost fell into same situation as you but luckily but friends knocked some sense into me :D

[yuddle]

nice bro. so, what happened then?


Nice sharing of your story TS. I almost fell into same situation as you but luckily but friends knocked some sense into me :D

[alfonse]

Went cold turkey. It was super tough at the beginning with very strong urges to contact her but got better and better as the days went by. Looking back, I am glad to have friends like that who really concerned about me. Dunno what would have happened if I had sunk further into the relationship

[egresnow]

Went cold turkey. It was super tough at the beginning with very strong urges to contact her but got better and better as the days went by. Looking back, I am glad to have friends like that who really concerned about me. Dunno what would have happened if I had sunk further into the relationship

You did well. This is the way to do it. To put it simply, we are still humans with emotions, be it KC trap or with regular girls. And luckily for us, as we are still humans, the best way to recover is to find a better or new girl.

or just find another massage lady or ktv girl or whatever to dilute your feelings. Or just find a non-"working" lady.

[Bizsta]

thanks for the comment...you are right...thru the yrs that I chiong of course met some with better chemistry be it at HC or FL have a clear mind its a deal just pay /finished and do not bring the feelings back.If itchy again go back next week