this is not a good FR on Shanelle...

[hOtFuNgUy]

Post a new thread as i cldn't access the one on her (by beauthaiful). Well i have to say my peace or cannot sleep siah. juz finished wrk and freaking shag but dun type this FR cannot get the load of my mind. the following views are IMHO and are not meant to offend any1 esp bro beauthaiful, who seriously need to check this out...

Had made a booking wif bro beauthaiful for a session wif Shanelle. Supposed to be at 9pm but was trying to get earlier coz need to rush back to wrk at 10.30pm. was told to go up at 8.40pm (bro beauthaiful i am sure of this). had bought some chocolates (ferraro rocher) coz guess she wld be tired after a long day. wanted to cheer her up but i guess i didn't do a good job. was greeted by a pretty lady but didn't look very much like the pic (photoshoot usually vastly diff) but still attractive.

Watched tv and had some simple conversation (barely understanding each other) while waiting for the water to fill the tub. bathing was SOP but was delighted to have her bathe me. dried up and proceeded to the main action. cathbath, bbbj, bj all SOP but the 1st turnoff arrived after the fj. immediately after i cummed, she juz pulled herself away. i dunno bout u guys, but usually the girl will let u 'stay' in her for a while, to 'milk' all the 'tadpoles' out. but in this case, no. i was like... 'ahh'... then she immediately got up and take tissue to pull the cd out liao. wtf man.:mad: then str away pass me a glass of water and go bathe liao. sian1/2 leh. maybe i stink or the cd broke that's y she was in such a hurry but dun have to treat me like that mah.

I was hoping for a better 2nd rd but the worse was yet to come. after her shower, we juz sat ard tc bout usual stuff like sg, los etc. veri minimal conversation. no chemistry (unlike other FLs). dunno y also. maybe the way she portrays herself ba. in my opinion, i think she's quite stuck-up as she thinks she's an undergrad (2nd year uni now hols).

Seeing that she's not making any move for rd 2, i made the 1st move by going for a shower and coming out naked (quite obvious rite?). but she juz stood at the tv and kept on changing the channels. i think got at least 3mins, like trying to waste time like that. then 2nd turnoff come liao. at 10pm sharp, she received a sms telling her times up. wtf?! i came up at 8.40pm so sure finish at 10.10pm mah. Moreover, she didn't even initiate rd 2. wah kaoz... so sian. but i didn't want to create a scene. i did say 'huh? time's up alreadi?'. u guys noe wat was her reply? 'ya no more bye bye.' wah liew eh. wat type of attitude siah. maybe miscommunication or wat but it left me a very bad impression. so i left and she didn't even see me to the door. kaoz!

When i reached the lobby, i immediately sms bro beauthaiful and told him about the timing and non-existent 2nd shot. this is the last turnoff. he insisted i went up at 8.30pm but i can cfm i went up at 8.40pm. maybe he rushing coz got another cust after me. kaoz... then when i told him about the 2nd shot thingy and it happened to another bro b4 (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=67327&page=2 post#19), he juz replied 'thanks for the feedback'. kaoz!! so pissed that i didn't even bother to reply. in the end had my 2nd shot at legends HC and costed me another $160. spent $320 for 2 shots instead of $160. but the money is irrelevant as compared to the anger of getting such service. talk about bad attitude and service.:mad:

Maybe i too stink, too fat, too ugly that's y kenna like that ( but seriously dun think i am much of any of the 3). maybe juz sway. first time use bro beauthaiful den kenna like that liao. scared of him. although his girls are pretty but not worth it at all ( oh ya, bro beauthaiful told me Shanelle was worth a scolding from my boss as i might not be able to rush back to wrk on time). think will stick to bro ccod81 who has never failed me.

Below is a brief summary:

Name: Shanelle
Age: 22
Looks: 7/10 (looks older than pic but still pretty)
Figure: 7/10 (good in all aspects but short)
Cathbath: 6/10
BBBJ: 5/10
BJ: 6/10
FJ: 2/10 (the last part is a turnoff)
Service: 7/10
Attitude: 2/10 (haben times up treat u nice, times up say 'ya no more bye
bye')
Chemistry: 1/10 (hardly any)
Damage: $320 (coz of the 2nd shot i had to take at legends HC...lol)
RTF: quite obvious

P.S. i noe a lot of bros have tried her and are pleased wif her but maybe i sway or wat lar. want to emphasize that all views are IMHO and not meant to offend anyone. If anybody unhappy, pls state ur views and i will certainly reply to them. ok guys, happy cheonging and all the best!!

[TegR]

No worries bro!!

Dun think u will be penalised for ur true FR.

Wat I can suggest is that, this is part and parcel of the transacations.

Meanwhile look forward to the next bonk!!

Cheers!!

[MugenChicken]

hotfunguy, dun get angry hor, i just wan to comment for conversation sake, nothin against you.

Do you guys think we singaporeans are getting a abit spoilt? reading bro hotfunguy's post, i dun think she did anything SERIOUSLY wrong leh. I think our expectations nowadays can be pretty high.

We expect them to treat us like BFs, every little thing they do also kena scrutinize by us because we write such beautiful FRs about them so we expect the same or more.

Sometimes i just put myself into the girls shoes when i get bad service (although i never really encountered a really bad one yet *touch wood). Imagine how many guys they have to serve one day ( i think for popular girls about 7-9 customers)

Anyways, hope that you will have more better experiences next time hotfunguy!

Cheers

[InsiderFcuker]

We expect them to treat us like BFs, every little thing they do also kena scrutinize by us because we write such beautiful FRs about them so we expect the same or more.


Cheers

If vice Versa , give a guy 8 - 9 rooms each rom 1 gal. for the whole day we walk 1 room to the other after 1.5hrs, bonk the 8 - 9 gals and are we able to treat all the gals as gf as possible equally? :rolleyes:

[MugenChicken]

If vice Versa , give a guy 8 - 9 rooms each rom 1 gal. for the whole day we walk 1 room to the other after 1.5hrs, bonk the 8 - 9 gals and are we able to treat all the gals as gf as possible equally? :rolleyes:



Hahaha, you can ah? I cannot leh... old liao, cannot stand long enough to entertain so many, some more if the girl cannot make it even worst. :D

[beauthaiful]

All bros,

Its my job to please every bros...
But I know sometimes, I cant please every bros...

If I really commit an error or a mistake, I will rectify.
If I do not please the bro, I lose his support for life.
Thats certainly not what I want.
Thanks for all the support to all those who stood by me.

I am always striving for the best.
For bro hOtFuNgUy, I have PMed you.

Thanks supporters!!! :)

[JWNY]

P.S. i noe a lot of bros have tried her and are pleased wif her but maybe i sway or wat lar. want to emphasize that all views are IMHO and not meant to offend anyone. If anybody unhappy, pls state ur views and i will certainly reply to them. ok guys, happy cheonging and all the best!! Sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience bro.

This feedback is good and will only emphasize the service levels that the OKTs will have to measure up to...since there is so much competition.

There are good days and bad, unfortunately (at your first attempt), you have experienced the bad.

Give bro beauthaiful a chance to make it up to you. It is never a joy for businessmen to make money out of faulty/defected products (if you catch my drift). :) Maybe i too stink, too fat, too ugly that's y kenna like that Believe me bro...women in this line are way past customers in whatever form they come in. They don't discriminate since they are earning their money.

JWNY

[triple h]

ya bro....dun feel disappointed anymore, bro thai will make it up to you....
u were just at the wrong place, wrong time (so to speak)......

[Acidburnt]

Wow, why got one bad FR, all defend the OKT instead of condem him? Think OKT should give full refund ?

Poor TS, post bad FR, kena shoot left right centre.

[Sayangku]

Do you guys think we singaporeans are getting a abit spoilt? reading bro hotfunguy's post, i dun think she did anything SERIOUSLY wrong leh. I think our expectations nowadays can be pretty high.

We expect them to treat us like BFs, every little thing they do also kena scrutinize by us because we write such beautiful FRs about them so we expect the same or more......

Cheers

I agree with MugenChicken, we Singaporeans are spoilt fuckers lah, expect too much from these ladies. But hotfunguy, sometimes we really unlucky lah, go at the wrong place at the wrong time, part and parcel of these bonking escapades. But if an FL got to many negative FRs, then it's the woman problem lah, so give Frank another chance bah, I'm sure Frank will make it up to you. Cheers

[Ah Dez]

There is nothing wrong with the girl.... but i agree that after u cum and she just move away, can be a big turn off.....

but overall... the FR is ok.

Just another guy who wants to makes full use of his $$ till the last 1 cent.:D

[Malvyn]

Damage: $320 (coz of the 2nd shot i had to take at legends HC...lol)


bro you Loaded ($) and has so much to unload(sperm)! :D

[tenggiri]

So like that, the reputation of us S'poreans continues to be proven right on and on again eh? You all know about the buffet 'stackers' right?! "Must get money's worth or will rugi" I agree with bros. Ah Des, Sayangku and Mugen Chicken.

To all cheongsters out there. The gals are human too and may get an off day now and then. Live and let live lah! Its up to us guys to tame the angry 'she-beast' right? You'll understand if you have a gf or are married!

[meatlover]

So like that, the reputation of us S'poreans continues to be proven right on and on again eh? You all know about the buffet 'stackers' right?! "Must get money's worth or will rugi"
I beg to differ. In fact S'poreans are one of the nicest customer a WL can get. Wait till you see China man, Hongkies, Middle-Easten, etc etc etc. (No punt intended, its a fact) Worst of the lot.

To all cheongsters out there. The gals are human too and may get an off day now and then. Live and let live lah! Its up to us guys to tame the angry 'she-beast' right?
Yes, the gal is a human, but mind you, in that kinda senerio, the gal is working and not here for sight-seeing. Customer dun pay $ to see jit teh bin one. Wanna come out and tan, must can tahan all this stuff. If cannot tahan, dun come out and tan.

You'll understand if you have a gf or are married!
So let me ask you. Assuming you're either married or have a gf, if you give your wife/gf S$160 and she gives you jit teh bin, you happy or not? :rolleyes:

[angieVI]

You seems like a very loyal supporter of CCOD81...

trying all his gals? FRs all v good? and praising him to the skies?

:rolleyes:

[kitsleo]

Wow, why got one bad FR, all defend the OKT instead of condem him? Think OKT should give full refund ?

Poor TS, post bad FR, kena shoot left right centre.

Bro Acidburnt, we r not siding bro frank, from bro hOtFuNgUy's FR, its is a gd feedback and tat's will help to improve the services from OKT or gals.

Bro hOtFuNgUy, dun worry about it, guess bro frank will do something about it.

" Not everything is perfect but at least willy give a try. " :)

[tenggiri]

I am not siding any particular gal o okt here but this seems to be another case of 'the customer is always king'! The actual thing here is the services rendered by WL is very different from banks or stores and we have to expect the occasional cock-ups. Dats all i am saying.

Peace bro.

[sillyboyboy]

just wanted to pipe in that I had a not so good exp with Shanelle too, similar to hot fun guy's FR

but only 1 shot and no bbbj

I did'nt intend to post about it actually, but since someone else had a similar problem, then it is not a one off

In fact i think mine was just before his ;) I ended mine early.... was packed off to the showers literally...

[TT@N]

I guess we all need to chill a bit. Human feelings are so unpredictable, it is so difficult to get two person giving you the same level of services and treatment. I'm sure many bros out there have face unpleasant experiences before.

Lets give bro beauthaiful a break, he can supply the product but cannot control the services. Hope you can have better luck next time bro.

[Da Vinci]

another case of "one man's meat is another's poison"

nowadays... "newbies" alot of complaints???

[hOtFuNgUy]

wow... didn't expect the flurry of replies from fellow bros. sigh. guess i didn't make myself clear enuff. i admit diff ladies provide diff services but shdn't vary so much in standards but i gotta say i ain't no newbie (as pointed out by bro Da Vinci). let's say i got at least 10 years of experience in the 'paid sex' scene (starting from the traditional 'playground' and graduating to HCs and FLs:o ). only joined sammyboy in 2006 but never posted much coz i always visit HCs and posting a FR would be like so duh (all roughly the same one wat). like i stated in my first post that all views were truly in my own opinion, so i guess it's me onli. anyway ty to all bros for giving me your own feedback on this. Bro beauthailful did pm me and offered a good 'deal' as a sincere way of making up but juz to let everyone noe i am not after 'freebies'. But was moved by bro beauthaiful's gesture.

Anyway, i hope i didn't turn anyone off after my FR and i'll be the first to admit the old cliche 'one man's meat may be another's poison'. By all means if u're happy with bro beauthaiful's services, dun let my humble FR stop u from continuing. thank u everyone for the comments and stay happy always! happy cheonging!:D

[happycamper]

I don't think singaporeans are spoilt fuckers in general..... higher expectation is a good thing not a bad one. As society improve, service industries "service levels" will improve. When the standards go up, we certainly don't expect it to go down again. Improving services and high expectations are good things. We don't need to be unreasonable to expect good service. In general, i think singaporean cheongsters have reasonable expectations relative to market standards.

Don't forget you are paying for service. It is $160 not $40 leh. If you pay for a $160 meal in a restaurant you expect good solid today's standard service not 10 years ago aunty uncle service right? If you are paying $3 for your laksa then you won't expect any service from the hawker.

Case in point, $160 is not exactly very cheap so it is fair to expect certain service levels.

2 cents =)

[ok69]

Pocoz guess she wld be tired after a long day. wanted to cheer her up but i gue. i dunno bout u guys, but usually the girl will let u 'stay' in her for a while, to 'milk' all the 'tadpoles' out. but in this case, no. i was like... 'ahh'... then she immediately got up and take tissue to pull the cd out liao. wtf man.:mad: then str away pass me a glass of water and go bathe liao. sian1/2 leh. maybe i stink or the cd broke that's y she was in such a hurry but dun have to treat me like that mah.

s are IMHO and not meant to offend anyone. If anybody unhappy, pls state ur views and i will certainly reply to them. ok guys, happy cheonging and all the best!!

CD broke????????

[max_priest]

In this particular situation, I guess it was beyond OKT Frank's control. It is also his risk for importing an unproven product to this somewhat lucrative market as once his reputation is tarnished, it is gonna be very difficult for him to rebound. I have seen this happening in other OKTs with my own eyes. What I am driving at is, Agent Frank is someone who would strive to provide his clients the best possible service and hence, offending his clients would be the last thing on his mind. In fact, he can ill afford to do that ... For this incident, I must say it was an isolated one. I have patronised his service many times and I even recommended his gals to some of my personal friends. He is considered one of the handful good OKTs around.

Based on my experience with FL, I believe the fluctuation in a gal level of service maybe due to one or a few of the following reasons:

1) Sudden personal problem, be it family or BF issues;
2) Not feeling well or ill;
3) Customer advances are too rough for her liking;
4) Customer ultra demanding;
5) Tired after serving too many clients within the day;
6) Not accustom to this trade especially if she is a complete newbie;
7) Not use to the local styles & demands;
8) OKT did not pay her or treat her well;
9) She is hungry;
10) Lack of chemistry between the gal & the client;
11) Lost the sexual stamina or interest after a few days of sex with so many kinda men;
12) The gal has weird and mood swing behaviour

The above maybe inexhaustive ...

Cheers,
Max;)

[nickygoh]

I beg to differ. In fact S'poreans are one of the nicest customer a WL can get. Wait till you see China man, Hongkies, Middle-Easten, etc etc etc. (No punt intended, its a fact) Worst of the lot.


Yes, the gal is a human, but mind you, in that kinda senerio, the gal is working and not here for sight-seeing. Customer dun pay $ to see jit teh bin one. Wanna come out and tan, must can tahan all this stuff. If cannot tahan, dun come out and tan.


So let me ask you. Assuming you're either married or have a gf, if you give your wife/gf S$160 and she gives you jit teh bin, you happy or not? :rolleyes:

brud meatlover, excellently written. I support you with both hands. If the girl want to come out and tan, then deo tahan, don't pull a long face. a general guideline to them is rule 1: the customer is right, rule 2, if the customer is wrong, go back to rule 1. am sure that samsters here are reasonable and not rough cheong-sters. we pay for the transaction with hard-earned money so would expect a certain minimum level of service treatment.

all in all, this is an isolated case like what Brud max_priest has mentioned. this case is beyond bro frank's control. i find bro frank very approachable and easy to click with. he can even remember my favourite timeslot just after one visit and he poked fun at me for that. :D

in this case, if the gal here is having some problems, she ought to think of this "Ai lun... Buay lun deo lun ! (read: must tolerate, cannot tolerate will kanna torture (in samster's forum)). she comes out to tan and would need to tahan. Cheers.

[MisterMarley]

yeah, I totally agree with Bro MaxPriest. I understand that we paid quite a substantial amount for 90mins with the FLs however, we really have to take into account that they are human beings after all. I feel that we should just use these session to release whatever load we have and say goodbye. I know of people wanting embark on serious relationships, even marrigages with these FLs. IMHO, I feel that is the ultimate no-no for us samsters. Whatever it is, shit happens and I guess we still gotta move on in life.

[hOtFuNgUy]

sigh... dunno y kenna zaP, some more never leave nick and reason. did i offend some1? sian... muz be some scaredy cat only can zap dunno how to type. lol. anyway thanks for all the feedback guys and i agree with the fact that WLs and FLs are human too and have feelings. juz hope that i not so sway so often everytime kenna bad service. ty everyone for contributing.

[Hakoshu]

OKTs now really gotta be more service oriented... rather than doing one time business

[Hugo168]

sigh... dunno y kenna zaP, some more never leave nick and reason. did i offend some1? sian... muz be some scaredy cat only can zap dunno how to type. lol. anyway thanks for all the feedback guys and i agree with the fact that WLs and FLs are human too and have feelings. juz hope that i not so sway so often everytime kenna bad service. ty everyone for contributing.

A little setback should not put you off further bonks move on, may you have a better luck next time with some other.
Cheers bro :)

[soberguy]

Hi all,

I don't understand why are we just becoming a nation of followers! Is it because we are under the rules of the regime for so long that we become too tolerant and not knowing how to say NO even when someone make you a fool?

When someone post his bad FR, so many people are telling him, "hey, accept it - is your luck and think about what the woman has to go through etc etc, not forgetting the high expectation part", but my question is have anyone look from other angles where the threadstarter is kind enough to pen out his experience to share? We can't say his money is not hard-earned and have we thought about the FL laughing her way to the bank especially if we take their standard of living as comparison. If he is atypical high expectation singaporean, I think he would have demand a refund from the OKT or to demand and insist on his 2nd bonk. He was just reporting what he was given (Fl pretending not knowing 2nd bonk & OKT sms etc..)

For one last thing, please refrain from saying singaporeans are spoilt fuckers etc. It only shows how shallow and constricted you can be, and that you have never travelled or know enough how other nationalities are like. And also, I don't even see any samster here playing S&M stuff too nor anything to the extreme or hit the women.

Cheers!

[hornie]

You hit the nail on the head soberguy. I mean we all have preferences and he is willing to spend his precious time to comment honestly about his experiences for the benefit of all. I have also tried Shannelle and it is true that she dose not initiate the second round although she is very nice and makes up for it in other ways.

Remember complaining is a way that customers convey their experiences to the service provider and to give them a second chance to get it right. If the service is total crap and I am not returning to a particular place I would not bother complaining, but instead start bitching.

Customers should stick together for the benefit of all.

Hi all,

I don't understand why are we just becoming a nation of followers! Is it because we are under the rules of the regime for so long that we become too tolerant and not knowing how to say NO even when someone make you a fool?

When someone post his bad FR, so many people are telling him, "hey, accept it - is your luck and think about what the woman has to go through etc etc, not forgetting the high expectation part", but my question is have anyone look from other angles where the threadstarter is kind enough to pen out his experience to share? We can't say his money is not hard-earned and have we thought about the FL laughing her way to the bank especially if we take their standard of living as comparison. If he is atypical high expectation singaporean, I think he would have demand a refund from the OKT or to demand and insist on his 2nd bonk. He was just reporting what he was given (Fl pretending not knowing 2nd bonk & OKT sms etc..)

For one last thing, please refrain from saying singaporeans are spoilt fuckers etc. It only shows how shallow and constricted you can be, and that you have never travelled or know enough how other nationalities are like. And also, I don't even see any samster here playing S&M stuff too nor anything to the extreme or hit the women.

Cheers!

[Mark_Lim 1975]

Hi Bros,

Just returned from US last week and I was trying to book LoveOn this afternoon. No suitable timing, so Bonnie recommended Shanelle. I read this forum last week and was a bit concern initially, but took my chance to go ahead.

The session turned out to be Superb! After my first shot, Shanelle was hugging me tightly for quite a while before letting me go and we both collapse on the bed - feeling was great! Dun think I have great look or good skills. Probably we can click well this time. I had some unhappy sessions with other girls before also.

I think this is like a mass production business, sometimes you do get some defectives. Service quality could vary/drop at times. I think as long as the overall service quality is good, okts should try to provide good "after sales" service to the minority unhappy bros.

I thought it may be good if we start a voting system in this forum. okts can put up the girls and bros who have visited can vote online - one to five stars. Then we will have a more balance view. The challenge is to identify genuine cheongsters from the bogus ones. I shall leave this to the experts.

Mark Lim