How many of you are RESOLUTE in $20 handjobs. I don't succumb to $50 handjobs

[ceeko]

At most $30

I told the girl, u massage me, 45min. Last 10min u Handjob. Doesn't justify $50

I go geylang, the girl shower me, blow me in the shower... dries me, on bed catbaths me, I can even lick her if I want, french her and she still blows me, she fucks me and some good ones even allows anal too.

And you want a $50 handjob?

At most, I save the $50, I go geylang, I find a full fledged fuck after the massage. Even more shoik.

NEVER SUCCUMB to $50 handjobs

All of u super rich ya.

[lazyguy]

As long as Mr Roberts around I doubt they will give in lah.. haha

Hope the best...

[YouAllSuck]

It's the convenience and milf factor ba. GL is far for some people, milf not very common in GL (have to keep go house to house to find, which I dislike) plus since you're there for massage already, might as well.

There's also the taboo, thrilling feeling of doing it where you're not supposed to. Or the thrilling feeling of getting a ML to do it when she usually don't. Some ppl like?

The HDLY experience that some MLs do is cannot get from GL one. I planning to go again soon. Then again, some PRC in GL also know HDLY (eg. I experienced at Yi Tiao Long before) or willing to let you teach.

I find that ML also like to chat more than GL girls in general, some people like certain personalities mah. Maybe some guys want PRC HJ but don't want fuck. Lots of possible reasons.

You're just annoyed that $20 is not the market rate. Hahahaha. Asking someone to touch your didi for $20 is too cheap la.

[Tubi]

Most of the time small head do the thinking sure kena carrot by them

[pete_the_fish]

At most $30

I told the girl, u massage me, 45min. Last 10min u Handjob. Doesn't justify $50

I go geylang, the girl shower me, blow me in the shower... dries me, on bed catbaths me, I can even lick her if I want, french her and she still blows me, she fucks me and some good ones even allows anal too.

And you want a $50 handjob?

At most, I save the $50, I go geylang, I find a full fledged fuck after the massage. Even more shoik.

NEVER SUCCUMB to $50 handjobs

All of u super rich ya.
quite true. we pay $50 for 1 hour of massage not 40 or 45 min. They took up 10 to 15min our massage time and we have to pay $50 for the HJ .

SO yeah, base on that , $30 is a fair price since only provided 45min of massage.

i normally go MP to get some massage and teasing and if HJ is $30 i will just do it. if not, i just go geylang after that lol.

[junmin95]

At most $30

I told the girl, u massage me, 45min. Last 10min u Handjob. Doesn't justify $50

I go geylang, the girl shower me, blow me in the shower... dries me, on bed catbaths me, I can even lick her if I want, french her and she still blows me, she fucks me and some good ones even allows anal too.

And you want a $50 handjob?

At most, I save the $50, I go geylang, I find a full fledged fuck after the massage. Even more shoik.

NEVER SUCCUMB to $50 handjobs

All of u super rich ya.

I get zapped for saying $20 handjobs.. knn.

[passiontea]

Well, you just need to nego with the girl for handjob.

[oldschoolman]

If the girl is chio, $50 ok what.. if the girl is old and ugly... $5 i also dont want. It depends on quality... Although i would love to pay $20 too but face the fact.. good looking, good money.

[Footman]

Geylang closed till end of April. Wonder if TS still cannot bear to part with his $50 note

[ceeko]

Geylang closed till end of April. Wonder if TS still cannot bear to part with his $50 note

I don't part with $50 for handjobs... ever

Only fools pay $50 for a wank

[LeeHsienLoong]

You think this will work?
Just look at this forum and you will understand how many go to SPA and pay big money for a HJ or FJ.
PRC open mouth already quote you $120 to $180 for FJ and add to the $40 or $50 standard fee.
HJ $50 and cannot touch but with extra $20 can touch and another $20 to $30 to remove top. Now HJ become $70 to $100.

[tiko]

We must stand firm with the PM!

$70-100 for few mins of fun!!! OMG

You think this will work?
Just look at this forum and you will understand how many go to SPA and pay big money for a HJ or FJ.
PRC open mouth already quote you $120 to $180 for FJ and add to the $40 or $50 standard fee.
HJ $50 and cannot touch but with extra $20 can touch and another $20 to $30 to remove top. Now HJ become $70 to $100.

[lazyguy]

We must stand firm with the PM!

$70-100 for few mins of fun!!! OMG

Yes support our PM..

Be United .... But keep 1meter away ok.. if not will kanna fine.. haha

[Garage1]

Where got 30?
Pm can?

[TheIdesOfMarch]

What to do? Sinkies love to pwn Sinkies otherwise at night cannot sleep.

That's why SG market is the absolute easiest for such ML/WL/HFJ ladies to work in. If stand firm against their $50 HJ they try to make a scene after massaging you for half an hour with your $50/hr massage alr paid for... how you handle?

[Badboylee]

this is about perception, some ppl earn $30k a month, they dont really care abt handjob $50 or $30 or $80, they just pay.

[baotohk]

it is a double edge sword . The issue is the shop owner.

They stop paying them wages for their work and ladies depend on HJ to survive. When the owner realised they are making good money , they come out with the P massage rubbish.

I stop going to shop these days.........unless there is one i am interested to get them out to fuck

[Footman]

$50 for a HJ with auto-roam is reasonable.

[pete_the_fish]

What to do? Sinkies love to pwn Sinkies otherwise at night cannot sleep.

That's why SG market is the absolute easiest for such ML/WL/HFJ ladies to work in. If stand firm against their $50 HJ they try to make a scene after massaging you for half an hour with your $50/hr massage alr paid for... how you handle?

what scene they want to make ? tell the whole world we not willing to pay for $50 HANDJOB ? lol

ownself slap ownself ?:D

[lazyguy]

$50 for a HJ with auto-roam is reasonable.

True bro

+16

[UndeadOrc]

Hope the best...

bros i tell you a hack, small hack nia, but some place pmassage +28,38 on top of 50 but say pmassage nia, but 2nd time 3rd time is hj liao :p

must same massuese la.. she comfort with u liao, become hj, u hint hint lor your 'head' need some 'an mo' lol

3rd time u go should can hold backside already

some places i go the ml know me long liao like 3-4 time go book herby name type, know i massage lower back first (ease my old man pain haha) about 15-20 mins, then is massage backside and hdly alredy, then turn around hj and i tell her 'mo shuang er yi' her butt lol

depends la, some place pmssage 28 nia, some is 38.. see lor u want save how much hahah

so u find some place near where u like, with ml u think ok, then u go find her 1-2 time should be can already.. not say govery often also, they just remb u can liao, i mostly go after fldome1 booking then need some massage for after fuck muscle suan lol

btw, i not handsom or fit (40+ liao haha), just maybe jokertalking with them nia sometimes during massage..

[oldschoolman]

Reasonable if the ml is not late 30s..
Seriously if ml quality is bad, i will just do with real facial or massage only...

$50 for a HJ with auto-roam is reasonable.

[julienj]

Depends the agreement between 2 parties.
I've paid $50, $35, $30, $20, $15, $10 before.
Some ML I know long enough does it for free (but rarely).
So it really depends...

[bignehneh]

bros i tell you a hack, small hack nia, but some place pmassage +28,38 on top of 50 but say pmassage nia, but 2nd time 3rd time is hj liao :p

must same massuese la.. she comfort with u liao, become hj, u hint hint lor your 'head' need some 'an mo' lol

3rd time u go should can hold backside already

some places i go the ml know me long liao like 3-4 time go book herby name type, know i massage lower back first (ease my old man pain haha) about 15-20 mins, then is massage backside and hdly alredy, then turn around hj and i tell her 'mo shuang er yi' her butt lol

depends la, some place pmssage 28 nia, some is 38.. see lor u want save how much hahah

so u find some place near where u like, with ml u think ok, then u go find her 1-2 time should be can already.. not say govery often also, they just remb u can liao, i mostly go after fldome1 booking then need some massage for after fuck muscle suan lol

btw, i not handsom or fit (40+ liao haha), just maybe jokertalking with them nia sometimes during massage..

Bro

Can FL dom 1 girls masssge well? I totally agree with you. So far I went to a few good places to have good and power massage. After a while, quite easy to get HJ. Usually I start off by saying groin very tired. Then let them massage the groin around. After that, if standing tall, then give out some shiok moan. Slowly 1-2 times the lady will know. Of course a lot do it but hush hush one. Later on see whether you want to move to the next step to fondle her boobs and dig her pussy. But slowly one step at a time. Don’t rush and frighten them. Most of the time I slowly caress their boobs and then tune their nipple gently. Then I may potentially strip their bra (need a lot of skill and do it in 1 hand). Slowly may want to caress their ass and slowly rub their pussy. When it is moist on the outside, then slowly move in to rub and then finger and dig gently. Cannot rush one la. Don’t start off by digging aggressively. Lol

After a couple of visits, I made the girl lie on the massage bed and finish them off. Lol! Tried on many girls and most didn’t escape....ML usually have tighter pussy and had lesser partners so more engaging and shiok. Martin road got 2 Big boobs milf (1 returned home). Their pussies are drenching wet. Take some effort but nothing is impossible

Enjoy!!!!

[pete_the_fish]

Bro

Can FL dom 1 girls masssge well? I totally agree with you. So far I went to a few good places to have good and power massage. After a while, quite easy to get HJ. Usually I start off by saying groin very tired. Then let them massage the groin around. After that, if standing tall, then give out some shiok moan. Slowly 1-2 times the lady will know. Of course a lot do it but hush hush one. Later on see whether you want to move to the next step to fondle her boobs and dig her pussy. But slowly one step at a time. Don’t rush and frighten them. Most of the time I slowly caress their boobs and then tune their nipple gently. Then I may potentially strip their bra (need a lot of skill and do it in 1 hand). Slowly may want to caress their ass and slowly rub their pussy. When it is moist on the outside, then slowly move in to rub and then finger and dig gently. Cannot rush one la. Don’t start off by digging aggressively. Lol

After a couple of visits, I made the girl lie on the massage bed and finish them off. Lol! Tried on many girls and most didn’t escape....ML usually have tighter pussy and had lesser partners so more engaging and shiok. Martin road got 2 Big boobs milf (1 returned home). Their pussies are drenching wet. Take some effort but nothing is impossible

Enjoy!!!!

you a bit contradicting lah bro....first you say must slowly...must take some effort, cannot rush.....after a couple of visits , that is 2 visits right? only 2 visits you can finish them off.....you really sex god lah.

why don't you tell us what kind of place you went only 2 visits you can finish them off ? :rolleyes:

[pete_the_fish]

$50 for a HJ with auto-roam is reasonable.

Yes it's reasonable , provided the HJ is at least 30min, not 10 min.

i went to one home massage, $50 for 30min of HJ with auto roam and clothes off and more importantly NO ENTRANCE ! .

[UndeadOrc]

Bro

Can FL dom 1 girls masssge well? I totally agree with you. So far I went to a few good places to have good and power massage. After a while, quite easy to get HJ. Usually I start off by saying groin very tired. Then let them massage the groin around. After that, if standing tall, then give out some shiok moan. Slowly 1-2 times the lady will know. Of course a lot do it but hush hush one. Later on see whether you want to move to the next step to fondle her boobs and dig her pussy. But slowly one step at a time. Don’t rush and frighten them. Most of the time I slowly caress their boobs and then tune their nipple gently. Then I may potentially strip their bra (need a lot of skill and do it in 1 hand). Slowly may want to caress their ass and slowly rub their pussy. When it is moist on the outside, then slowly move in to rub and then finger and dig gently. Cannot rush one la. Don’t start off by digging aggressively. Lol

After a couple of visits, I made the girl lie on the massage bed and finish them off. Lol! Tried on many girls and most didn’t escape....ML usually have tighter pussy and had lesser partners so more engaging and shiok. Martin road got 2 Big boobs milf (1 returned home). Their pussies are drenching wet. Take some effort but nothing is impossible

Enjoy!!!!

wah you high level than me lol i most rub cb outside pants nia hahah

Bro

Can FL dom 1 girls masssge well?

i dunno.. what i mean is i say after go fl dome1 liao, my muscle suan so i go pmassage joint massage my legs and hip cos old liao fuck also can suan lol

[Footman]

For first visit, it's usually entrance + $50. Some will try their luck to demand more,which I will counter say this that's all I have. If they start to show black face or try to make a scene, then dress up and go. Do not give in to those that offer say they will take off top at $80 or B2B for $100. There are also OMO shops in old shopping malls that can negotiate direct for 30mins of HJ with auto roam at $50 nett. Skip the entrance fees.

For home massage, there's quite a few that offers $100 for 2 or unlimited shots of HJ in an hour with full auto-roam. The max that I've heard from the FLs is 3 shots within that time frame.

Be it $20/30/40/50, a release is still a release. Commercial sex offers full package but there's a risk of getting STDs and bumping into people you know. The thrill in massage is fishing for something that is unexpected, leaving you satisfied with a good customer experience without burning a hole in the pocket. Happy cheonging

[lamlam83]

Hi bros can share contacts? Thanks

[supershaft]

i will only go for massage n HJ total 50 per hr. period... These MLs are making us suckers.. just wanking a meat rod for a while nia..

[pete_the_fish]

Be it $20/30/40/50, a release is still a release. Commercial sex offers full package but there's a risk of getting STDs and bumping into people you know. The thrill in massage is fishing for something that is unexpected, leaving you satisfied with a good customer experience without burning a hole in the pocket. Happy cheonging

Do you know you can also go geylang and opt for a HJ only ? you don't need to have sex with them. ask them to HJ for you for 20 min, some of them esp the spa train WL will give you a good time.

unless you damn famous or something, go spa also can bump into people you know lah.

as for the fishing part for a thrilling experience, depends on where you go isn't it? if you go Mango, you know what you can expect liao...so where is the so called thrill ? Or say you go Joneling, you can also roughly know what to expect. if you really want to fish and looking for unexpected thrill, you need to go to those proper regular spa, not those dodgy ones.

[Footman]

as for the fishing part for a thrilling experience, depends on where you go isn't it? if you go Mango, you know what you can expect liao...so where is the so called thrill ? Or say you go Joneling, you can also roughly know what to expect. if you really want to fish and looking for unexpected thrill, you need to go to those proper regular spa, not those dodgy ones.

Who's good at Mango or Joneling? Can share?

[pete_the_fish]

Who's good at Mango or Joneling? Can share?

never go mango....Joneling you want to go in kena chop carrot ? :D

just go to their FB see who you like :D

[Footman]

never go mango....Joneling you want to go in kena chop carrot ? :D

just go to their FB see who you like :D

The cubicles at Joneling is not fully concealed to the ceiling. Can hear the next door conversation. Mango is worse, like those hospital curtains partitions, with centralised shower. Both are black shops.

When I started cheonging, MLs were usually older than me. Nowadays is the other way round :D

[pete_the_fish]

The cubicles at Joneling is not fully concealed to. the ceiling. Can hear the next door conversation. Mango is worse, like those hospital curtains partitions, with centralised shower. Both are black shops.

When I started cheonging, MLs were usually older than me. Nowadays is the other way round :D

when was the last time you go Joneling ? they have sealed up the ceiling except some rooms where adjacent rooms share one aircon, there is a small hole.

not sure why you concerned about hearing what next door is talking or doing ? is it because you don't want people hear you talking or when doing stuff ?

i really don't care unless i want to chat with the ML. even if the door people can see inside i also don't care. lol :D

[bignehneh]

Geylang got no special gems. I find ML or at least freelance masseur has some gems. For example some has E, F cup tits where you rarely find in Geylang. A sense of achievement if you can conquer the masseurs. Usually take more than 1 practise to do it.

[Footman]

when was the last time you go Joneling ?

2 years ago... :D
Used to be regular there for awhile

[vistor987]

I need to learn some negotiation skills from you guys...

[bignehneh]

you a bit contradicting lah bro....first you say must slowly...must take some effort, cannot rush.....after a couple of visits , that is 2 visits right? only 2 visits you can finish them off.....you really sex god lah.

why don't you tell us what kind of place you went only 2 visits you can finish them off ? :rolleyes:

A few of them.

1. 2 milf at Martin road. I know the first masseur FF who has F cup tits. During her bf, I just slowly finger her pussy from outside. After I find it a bit moist, I move inside and it was drenching wet. She gives me a wonder juagen and boob fuck. The 2nd visor I went to her place again. This time convince her to join me in the shower. That is when she strip fully naked. She asked me whether I can finger her like the last time so I did lo. After that she is completely weak. I massage her then bang her upside down. Next I went for her “sis” F, E cup who is next door. First massage same thing. 2nd time ask her whether want to FJ. Her pussy is super tight. Lol! Did both milf and service them till FF went back to China

2. There is also the famous melody (used to be at king George). 2nd visit she joined me in the shower. Play with her D cup boobies in shower and dig her pussy. Oh! She loves it rough. After that I had to use my spare condom and back her

3. There is also C (Melody’s ex neighbour). This one a bit difficult. Took me 5 visits before I manage to bang her. C practises yoga and do a lot of gym. Almost can take any position.

4. Another one is juagen expert CC (green line). It all started when she had a stiff back. Since she has no customer after my session, I help massage her stiff back. Once she become super relax, I started to knead her boobs and then suck her nipples and neck gently. She is moaning away as I slowly rub her pussy from outside. She told me to bring condom during my next visit. Didn’t really rft as it is a bit open

5. Another SYT D cup girl from Guangzhou (masseur who stay at Geylang). She is so comfortable with me during the 2nd visit till she strips totally naked and ask me to do Mosha for her. Wa kao! Rub the beads around her whole body like boobs, ass crack and pussy. When a girl offer you this, nothing can stop your gun from banging her hard. Really had one of the best fuck of my life.

6. Another one is a great milf that juagen super well. Also manage to bang her 2nd visit. She will do 40 min juagen till I am rock hard. Tease me for 40 mins till my cock is going to burst. That is when I really bang her hard like I never fucked my whole life. Huge orgasm.

7. Lady L in Geylang. A good milf masseur with D cups boobs. She loves to wear parties with beads. Don’t know what shit is that but when beads rub against her panties, she will be leaking wet. Sibei song

Some observation.
1. Start slow. Don’t dig cb aggressively
2. Try to make them relax. Sometimes help them massage their tired shoulder and neck. They will let their guard down
3. I find their neck and ear super sensitive. Just some light kiss on their neck and ear will send shock waves. Try it.
4. Once you make them relax, their bra and panties will give way. Continue foreplay and make them horny
5. They will beg you to fuck them.

Personally I prefer more milf as they can massage well and do good juagen/ HJ. Apart from that, they are damn horny and they enjoyed sex.

[paymaster]

i second that brother. $50 wank means can touch, can lick, can finger can kiss. If just for a pure hj, pls la, take that 50 doller note wrap around your dick you will be happier.

I don't part with $50 for handjobs... ever

Only fools pay $50 for a wank

[Cheesebeast]

A few of them.

1. 2 milf at Martin road. I know the first masseur FF who has F cup tits. During her bf, I just slowly finger her pussy from outside. After I find it a bit moist, I move inside and it was drenching wet. She gives me a wonder juagen and boob fuck. The 2nd visor I went to her place again. This time convince her to join me in the shower. That is when she strip fully naked. She asked me whether I can finger her like the last time so I did lo. After that she is completely weak. I massage her then bang her upside down. Next I went for her “sis” F, E cup who is next door. First massage same thing. 2nd time ask her whether want to FJ. Her pussy is super tight. Lol! Did both milf and service them till FF went back to China

2. There is also the famous melody (used to be at king George). 2nd visit she joined me in the shower. Play with her D cup boobies in shower and dig her pussy. Oh! She loves it rough. After that I had to use my spare condom and back her

3. There is also C (Melody’s ex neighbour). This one a bit difficult. Took me 5 visits before I manage to bang her. C practises yoga and do a lot of gym. Almost can take any position.

4. Another one is juagen expert CC (green line). It all started when she had a stiff back. Since she has no customer after my session, I help massage her stiff back. Once she become super relax, I started to knead her boobs and then suck her nipples and neck gently. She is moaning away as I slowly rub her pussy from outside. She told me to bring condom during my next visit. Didn’t really rft as it is a bit open

5. Another SYT D cup girl from Guangzhou (masseur who stay at Geylang). She is so comfortable with me during the 2nd visit till she strips totally naked and ask me to do Mosha for her. Wa kao! Rub the beads around her whole body like boobs, ass crack and pussy. When a girl offer you this, nothing can stop your gun from banging her hard. Really had one of the best fuck of my life.

6. Another one is a great milf that juagen super well. Also manage to bang her 2nd visit. She will do 40 min juagen till I am rock hard. Tease me for 40 mins till my cock is going to burst. That is when I really bang her hard like I never fucked my whole life. Huge orgasm.

7. Lady L in Geylang. A good milf masseur with D cups boobs. She loves to wear parties with beads. Don’t know what shit is that but when beads rub against her panties, she will be leaking wet. Sibei song

Some observation.
1. Start slow. Don’t dig cb aggressively
2. Try to make them relax. Sometimes help them massage their tired shoulder and neck. They will let their guard down
3. I find their neck and ear super sensitive. Just some light kiss on their neck and ear will send shock waves. Try it.
4. Once you make them relax, their bra and panties will give way. Continue foreplay and make them horny
5. They will beg you to fuck them.

Personally I prefer more milf as they can massage well and do good juagen/ HJ. Apart from that, they are damn horny and they enjoyed sex.

Wow bro you are me very similar taste - all must be at least D cup then satisfied 😄

Salute you and your busty conquests. Hope you can share some of your contacts with fellow boobs lover bros here!

[bignehneh]

Happy to share but some return home. Can just pm me. Yesterday just search my WeChat contact. Those in China won’t be coming in the short term. A handful here still available for plucking. Lady C very very difficult and picky. One 3-4 manage to up her. Melody is the easiest in my opinion

[UndeadOrc]

1. 2 milf at Martin road. I know the first masseur FF who has F cup tits. During her bf, I just slowly finger her pussy from outside. After I find it a bit moist, I move inside and it was drenching wet. She gives me a wonder juagen and boob fuck. The 2nd visor I went to her place again. This time convince her to join me in the shower. That is when she strip fully naked. She asked me whether I can finger her like the last time so I did lo. After that she is completely weak. I massage her then bang her upside down. Next I went for her “sis” F, E cup who is next door. First massage same thing. 2nd time ask her whether want to FJ. Her pussy is super tight. Lol! Did both milf and service them till FF went back to China

2. There is also the famous melody (used to be at king George). 2nd visit she joined me in the shower. Play with her D cup boobies in shower and dig her pussy. Oh! She loves it rough. After that I had to use my spare condom and back her

3. There is also C (Melody’s ex neighbour). This one a bit difficult. Took me 5 visits before I manage to bang her. C practises yoga and do a lot of gym. Almost can take any position.

4. Another one is juagen expert CC (green line). It all started when she had a stiff back. Since she has no customer after my session, I help massage her stiff back. Once she become super relax, I started to knead her boobs and then suck her nipples and neck gently. She is moaning away as I slowly rub her pussy from outside. She told me to bring condom during my next visit. Didn’t really rft as it is a bit open

5. Another SYT D cup girl from Guangzhou (masseur who stay at Geylang). She is so comfortable with me during the 2nd visit till she strips totally naked and ask me to do Mosha for her. Wa kao! Rub the beads around her whole body like boobs, ass crack and pussy. When a girl offer you this, nothing can stop your gun from banging her hard. Really had one of the best fuck of my life.

6. Another one is a great milf that juagen super well. Also manage to bang her 2nd visit. She will do 40 min juagen till I am rock hard. Tease me for 40 mins till my cock is going to burst. That is when I really bang her hard like I never fucked my whole life. Huge orgasm.

7. Lady L in Geylang. A good milf masseur with D cups boobs. She loves to wear parties with beads. Don’t know what shit is that but when beads rub against her panties, she will be leaking wet. Sibei song


wow all ur storys when one? sound like heyday of massage in mid 90s.. they still around? hahaha.. how much u pay them?
i nv got so lucky.. nowadays all the massuese i go all scare kena caught like fuck by mgmt, even lift up shirt also dun dare.. sian..

[pakpak2001]

At most $30
I told the girl, u massage me, 45min. Last 10min u Handjob. Doesn't justify $50
NEVER SUCCUMB to $50 handjobs
All of u super rich ya.
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with Geylang & Petain closed, only spas open now
some bros text me to kpkb about ANNA at LV Star Spa amk ave 10

entrance fee $88 1 hout (actually only 45 min lah)
but increase hj from $100 to $150/-
rob bank better

[lazyguy]

================================================== =======
with Geylang & Petain closed, only spas open now
some bros text me to kpkb about ANNA at LV Star Spa amk ave 10

entrance fee $88 1 hout (actually only 45 min lah)
but increase hj from $100 to $150/-
rob bank better
Really?

No is better than rob bank.. haha

[Footman]

================================================== =======
with Geylang & Petain closed, only spas open now
some bros text me to kpkb about ANNA at LV Star Spa amk ave 10

entrance fee $88 1 hout (actually only 45 min lah)
but increase hj from $100 to $150/-
rob bank better

Boycott that shop at all costs!
The girls in pink uniforms are always busy inside smacking mosquitoes. That area Dengue clusters somemore :D

[pakpak2001]

Boycott that shop at all costs!
The girls in pink uniforms are always busy inside smacking mosquitoes. That area Dengue clusters somemore :D
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either they beat mosquitoes or they beat your arrowplane:D
but u serious the spa is dengue cluster? dangerous leh as customers can kena dengue or covid or sex disease, or worse still kena love-sick?

[Footman]

Not the spa but the area
[LIST=1]
https://mothership.sg/2020/02/dengue-red-clusters-singapore/

[ceeko]

Never been a better time to ask for $20 handjobs.

U all are really carrot heads

[pete_the_fish]

Never been a better time to ask for $20 handjobs.

U all are really carrot heads

times are bad bro...think i will just stick to my free hj at the moment. :eek:

at least still can get a hj....otherwise if nego for $20 HJ fail....wasted $50 :D

[toyotarush]

hard to find $20 hj lah. I used to pay $50 but will have 2 shots.

[ceeko]

hard to find $20 hj lah. I used to pay $50 but will have 2 shots.

How soon can u fire 2nd salvo?

[laofoozi]

hard to find $20 hj lah. I used to pay $50 but will have 2 shots.

Can recommend where bro? Thanks :)

[Sheenymilano]

I don't part with $50 for handjobs... ever

Only fools pay $50 for a wank

30 got 4G autoroam a not that's the question. I too think 30 is all I can part with but too many Roberts around

[BTech]

There is a place that you can get a BJ for S$1.50 and a HJ for S$0.80.

[Pictionary]

There is a place that you can get a BJ for S$1.50 and a HJ for S$0.80.
Do u need bj so as to work properly everyday? Got scientific proof or not?

[LiuJun]

Do u need bj so as to work properly everyday? Got scientific proof or not? Actually its true that if you release your soldiers you'll be able to think properly. The Japanese have a saying but I can't find it. However you can also do a simple Google search on men's release

[Pictionary]

Actually its true that if you release your soldiers you'll be able to think properly. The Japanese have a saying but I can't find it. However you can also do a simple Google search on men's release
U working in Google office?

[nkyc]

Actually its true that if you release your soldiers you'll be able to think properly. The Japanese have a saying but I can't find it. However you can also do a simple Google search on men's release

I find it helps me to destress greatly. When work stressntoo high i go find MP. My understanding is most MP give clothed HJs for 50 and if u top up to 80, they take off top and let u roam. I honestly have succumbed to pay 80 several times but i think the ML is pretty and we fondle like mad macham almost like having sex... I find it fun but yea quite ex considering GL can get full blown sex with 80...

[tiko]

Bro, dun over pay.... 50 can get auto roam and sucking one.... Those who ask u to top up
For roaming is crap....


I find it helps me to destress greatly. When work stressntoo high i go find MP. My understanding is most MP give clothed HJs for 50 and if u top up to 80, they take off top and let u roam. I honestly have succumbed to pay 80 several times but i think the ML is pretty and we fondle like mad macham almost like having sex... I find it fun but yea quite ex considering GL can get full blown sex with 80...

[lazyguy]

Bro, dun over pay.... 50 can get auto roam and sucking one.... Those who ask u to top up
For roaming is crap....

Yes if everyone pay 50 as market rate... Then will be a nice for everyone...

[tiko]

There are always going to be suckers... so this CB will reset everything to zero.... let's start on a new note....

Yes if everyone pay 50 as market rate... Then will be a nice for everyone...

[Penguin23]

This is an interesting thread, not the first of its kind but once in a while I do see these "movements" for customers to "band together" to "protest" against paying more than $XX amount for service XXX....

I wonder if TS ever considered, what actually drives the price of a HJ/BJ/FJ in the first place. During this CB period, all service providers in the nightlife industry (MLs, WLs, KTV gals, amongst others) are all suffering like hell. Most of them are literally squeezed between a rock and a hard place since Entertainment Outlets were closed down on midnight of Mar 26th, so this is looks like a really good time to drive a hard bargain, such a $20 HJ.

I have posted elsewhere in this forum before, that MLs/FLs/WL/KTV gals that work legally pay a "permit fee" each month ranging anywhere between $1800-$3000 to their "agent". This depends on how much the agent charges them, the type of permit they are under (Entertainer Pass, WP or S-pass) and how much the agent wants to profit each month for the girls they have under their company. I believe the going rate now is around $2000 - $2500 per month for a 6-month "Work Permit" for a "shop girl" that works 25-28 days per month. The agent cut, I believe is just under $1000.

On top of this monthly "permit fee", the ML/FL/WL needs anywhere between $1500 to $2000 a month for rent, and to sustain their daily needs (usually $500 for rent and $1000 for food and basic makeup). So that adds up to roughly $4000 per month, before a girl can get money to send home.

Say an ML works every day, with no break, 30 days a month (in reality they do get off days, a minimum of 2 days off a month), so they need to earn at least $130/day just to sustain themselves here. And the shop owner will want something too (hence that's why they charge entrance fees).

Given the above, how do you propose your $20 HJ is workable? I think you probably don't care - all you want is a cheap HJ but you don't ever want to be bothered if it is sustainable or even possible.

Perhaps what you're looking for is the equivalent of a unicorn, an ML who is already a PR/LTVP/SC (hence they no longer need to pay any kind of permit fee), who are somehow ugly or desperate enough to charge only $20 for a HJ

Not sure about you, but I prefer to face the facts and live in reality. If you find HJ too expensive, go to a neighboring country, where life is cheaper.

I think you will be happier there. Wanting to earn our current Singapore-level salary but insisting on a 1990s-era cost of living is pure fantasy.

[lazyguy]

I have posted elsewhere in this forum before, that MLs/FLs/WL/KTV gals that work legally pay a "permit fee" each month ranging anywhere between $1800-$3000 to their "agent". This depends on how much the agent charges them, the type of permit they are under (Entertainer Pass, WP or S-pass) and how much the agent wants to profit each month for the girls they have under their company. I believe the going rate now is around $2000 - $2500 per month for a 6-month "Work Permit" for a "shop girl" that works 25-28 days per month. The agent cut, I believe is just under $1000.

On top of this monthly "permit fee", the ML/FL/WL needs anywhere between $1500 to $2000 a month for rent, and to sustain their daily needs (usually $500 for rent and $1000 for food and basic makeup). So that adds up to roughly $4000 per month, before a girl can get money to send home.


I not sure how correct your information is maybe is a new one now... But what I use to know is they pay a lump some and come here for 6 months to a year.. I heard from most ktv gal I know... I also have been with a ktv gal for 3 years plus... So I know abit from her also..

And also for a normal ktv 3 sessions in a day... 200 per sessions assume they really sit with u and dun go butterfly.. 600 a day... 20days ok will be 12k.... Exclude extra tips or extra serve from customers.. they can earn up to 30k per month...

Anyway u are just their customer why u so worry they can earn or afford a not? Haha...

As I always say in other threads before they have more money than most guys here...

[afterburn]

It's a chicken and egg question.

HJ expensive, girl earns more, obviously - up to a certain point where too expensive drives away customers.

HJ cheap, girl also earns more, from increased number of customers - up to a certain point where she gets wrist injury or max out the capacity per day, no more available slots.

This is a complicated math function :D notwithstanding that there are other factors too. But solving it yields the optimum HJ price.

[Pictionary]

HJ cheap, girl also earns more, from increased number of customers - up to a certain point where she gets wrist injury or max out the capacity per day, no more available slots.

HJ too much can have wrist injury?

And bj bbbbj u guys and gals want to can. If caught, video will be viral. It can be presented in parliament too. Talk no use. Sicko perverted maniac means sicko perverted maniac. The most sickest and dirtiest form, cannot go down any further.

U guys and gals post in sg facebook if u dare. And u guys and gals can store these videos in phone. If lose then hoseh liao.......

[lazyguy]

It's a chicken and egg question.

HJ expensive, girl earns more, obviously - up to a certain point where too expensive drives away customers.

HJ cheap, girl also earns more, from increased number of customers - up to a certain point where she gets wrist injury or max out the capacity per day, no more available slots.

This is a complicated math function :D notwithstanding that there are other factors too. But solving it yields the optimum HJ price.

Even hj is cheap.. still need for the entrance fee... So I doubt will have any much different...

One ml I know she work from 11am to night 2am... Her hj fee is normal.. so she still get the same amount of customers...

That my opinion :)

[Penguin23]

I not sure how correct your information is maybe is a new one now... But what I use to know is they pay a lump some and come here for 6 months to a year.. I heard from most ktv gal I know... I also have been with a ktv gal for 3 years plus... So I know abit from her also..

And also for a normal ktv 3 sessions in a day... 200 per sessions assume they really sit with u and dun go butterfly.. 600 a day... 20days ok will be 12k.... Exclude extra tips or extra serve from customers.. they can earn up to 30k per month...

Anyway u are just their customer why u so worry they can earn or afford a not? Haha...

As I always say in other threads before they have more money than most guys here...

From what I understand, we're both correct - there is a discount if girls pay their permit fee upfront, especially if they can pay 1 year fee upfront in one shot.

But that comes with a risk - many unscrupulous agents out there cancel their permits and shut down the entire company once they have attracted enough silly girls who do that.....that's why the prepayment option is never very popular

Your numbers on 3 session KTVs are a bit on the high side, even the best ang pai KTV gals I know cannot get 3x booking daily 20 days a week. 3 session KTVs usually involve hum sup action from the get-go until 2 hours later, and are very very draining for the girls so its easy for them to burn out.

Yes, I do know some KTV gals who can earn $15K-$25K per month, but those almost always involve regular "short time/long time" arrangements with regulars. The very highest earners cater to non-regular straight sex fetishes (3-some, dominatrix, gangbang) and they are the exception and not the rule.

[Bingo1688]

When the MPs re-open it's time to lower down the price for HJ to 30. The MLs already very hungry so just tell them take it or leave it :p:p

[ciwilover]

there is a saying.... 要给人家赚 but ofcos not to robert state

[lazyguy]

From what I understand, we're both correct - there is a discount if girls pay their permit fee upfront, especially if they can pay 1 year fee upfront in one shot.

But that comes with a risk - many unscrupulous agents out there cancel their permits and shut down the entire company once they have attracted enough silly girls who do that.....that's why the prepayment option is never very popular

Your numbers on 3 session KTVs are a bit on the high side, even the best ang pai KTV gals I know cannot get 3x booking daily 20 days a week. 3 session KTVs usually involve hum sup action from the get-go until 2 hours later, and are very very draining for the girls so its easy for them to burn out.

Yes, I do know some KTV gals who can earn $15K-$25K per month, but those almost always involve regular "short time/long time" arrangements with regulars. The very highest earners cater to non-regular straight sex fetishes (3-some, dominatrix, gangbang) and they are the exception and not the rule.


Anyway still got ktv like boss, k2 etc le mah?? When anthem start they will strip all and wild mah? Gals take pill to get high ...I doubt now have le...

Bro u never kana kc before lah.. to get 15k to 25k for them are so easy lor..

Gal that cannot get themselves book is not ang pai leh... Haha...

[Penguin23]

Anyway still got ktv like boss, k2 etc le mah?? When anthem start they will strip all and wild mah? Gals take pill to get high ...I doubt now have le...

Bro u never kana kc before lah.. to get 15k to 25k for them are so easy lor..

Gal that cannot get themselves book is not ang pai leh... Haha...

I think those good old style KTVs are long gone, anyway the very best in my humble opinion are not in Singapore, but in Dongguan - places like Amazon in Chang Ping where the girls all strip the moment the lights go off. I never heard anything of that quality ever since CP was shut down in Feb 2014.....

Yes, I kena KC before. A few times in fact. My comment was just that your calculations are a bit too high, girls are also human beings and working 3 sessions will involve always being drunk and not remembering which customer stick his fingers in your pussy the night before. It also involves girls being knocked out so badly they end up not taking their tips and the mummy may be too busy to notice....

So yeah, the ones that I know who can earn in excess of $15K usually have some kind of special skill in bed. One of them I know (an ex-regular), absolutely loves sex, she said before that she needs to orgasm at least twice a day, every day.

I think her future bf is such a lucky guy..... she is still here in SG but I won't share the contact, sorry.

[loneyheart]

No way to turn back the clock to the 90s where all were malaysian in KTVs n HCs :(

[afterburn]

KTV girls and MLs are totally different category and different dimensions of earning potentials.

[FatSpider]

It's a chicken and egg question.

HJ expensive, girl earns more, obviously - up to a certain point where too expensive drives away customers.

HJ cheap, girl also earns more, from increased number of customers - up to a certain point where she gets wrist injury or max out the capacity per day, no more available slots.

This is a complicated math function :D notwithstanding that there are other factors too. But solving it yields the optimum HJ price.

how much wrist injury can u get from shaking ur hand in a 5cm up down motion 10times a day for 1min each time?

:confused:

thats got to be the cheapest 3000$/ hr equivalent rate
as good paying as a top tier footballer or an incompetent PAP minister

[afterburn]

how much wrist injury can u get from shaking ur hand in a 5cm up down motion 10times a day for 1min each time?

:confused:

thats got to be the cheapest 3000$/ hr equivalent rate
as good paying as a top tier footballer or an incompetent PAP minister

LOL .. didn't know people read so much into that. Just being sarcastic ;) , that's all.

1 min only ?? :eek:

[rahl]

I got to hand it to TS for his principles - I know him from other threads :)

It's not just the money though but also the whole mood. Nego the money too much and it spoils what should be a thrilling and pleasurable outing. Time and experience are more precious than money imo.

I prefer to work my charm on value added services and GFE like roaming or kissing.

[FatSpider]

LOL .. didn't know people read so much into that. Just being sarcastic ;) , that's all.

1 min only ?? :eek:

isnt that what they all do? treat u like a shake weight? lol

[afterburn]

isnt that what they all do? treat u like a shake weight? lol

Some of them can be coached :) how you want it done. I encounter one milf that even oil up her forearms to slide over and give different sensations. Get your tips' worth of fun ...

[AUDIFANSG]

U cant compare normal masssage time and hj massage time as equal. Tats apple and oranges. Illegal services of course going to be more expensive.

[repairman]

I believe if one is able to find a solid masseuse who give a good full body massage and HJ, should keep her as a gem. Pricing wise I think $30 for HJ is affordable and easier to bargain with the ML then $20. If you are looking for BJ or FJ, probably the legal joints or FLs would be able to provide better service. From $40 for those budget conscious to $150 for those with more to spare. Of course some go to ML for the excitement, but once released, you will know that its all the same.

[Pictionary]

U cant compare normal masssage time and hj massage time as equal. Tats apple and oranges. Illegal services of course going to be more expensive.
I believe if one is able to find a solid masseuse who give a good full body massage and HJ, should keep her as a gem. Pricing wise I think $30 for HJ is affordable and easier to bargain with the ML then $20. If you are looking for BJ or FJ, probably the legal joints or FLs would be able to provide better service. From $40 for those budget conscious to $150 for those with more to spare. Of course some go to ML for the excitement, but once released, you will know that its all the same.
The difference between both replies. One is a cheena who never serve ns and cannot be bothered to reply properly. Treat ppl like shit and can reap whatever benefits and comments from contributors here, just reap.

The other is a honest hardworking local worker.

Clap clap clap......

[ceeko]

This is an interesting thread, not the first of its kind but once in a while I do see these "movements" for customers to "band together" to "protest" against paying more than $XX amount for service XXX....

I wonder if TS ever considered, what actually drives the price of a HJ/BJ/FJ in the first place. During this CB period, all service providers in the nightlife industry (MLs, WLs, KTV gals, amongst others) are all suffering like hell. Most of them are literally squeezed between a rock and a hard place since Entertainment Outlets were closed down on midnight of Mar 26th, so this is looks like a really good time to drive a hard bargain, such a $20 HJ.

I have posted elsewhere in this forum before, that MLs/FLs/WL/KTV gals that work legally pay a "permit fee" each month ranging anywhere between $1800-$3000 to their "agent". This depends on how much the agent charges them, the type of permit they are under (Entertainer Pass, WP or S-pass) and how much the agent wants to profit each month for the girls they have under their company. I believe the going rate now is around $2000 - $2500 per month for a 6-month "Work Permit" for a "shop girl" that works 25-28 days per month. The agent cut, I believe is just under $1000.

On top of this monthly "permit fee", the ML/FL/WL needs anywhere between $1500 to $2000 a month for rent, and to sustain their daily needs (usually $500 for rent and $1000 for food and basic makeup). So that adds up to roughly $4000 per month, before a girl can get money to send home.

Say an ML works every day, with no break, 30 days a month (in reality they do get off days, a minimum of 2 days off a month), so they need to earn at least $130/day just to sustain themselves here. And the shop owner will want something too (hence that's why they charge entrance fees).

Given the above, how do you propose your $20 HJ is workable? I think you probably don't care - all you want is a cheap HJ but you don't ever want to be bothered if it is sustainable or even possible.

Perhaps what you're looking for is the equivalent of a unicorn, an ML who is already a PR/LTVP/SC (hence they no longer need to pay any kind of permit fee), who are somehow ugly or desperate enough to charge only $20 for a HJ

Not sure about you, but I prefer to face the facts and live in reality. If you find HJ too expensive, go to a neighboring country, where life is cheaper.

I think you will be happier there. Wanting to earn our current Singapore-level salary but insisting on a 1990s-era cost of living is pure fantasy.

I don't drink , hence don't go lsb or ktv.

Not concerned about ktv nonsense. But massage ladies do accept $20-30 jerk offs easily

[SirDennis]

Only just saw this thread.

I always say $30 for hj. Just say only gave $20 or 30 in wallet. If they keep saying no, they want $50, I just say no, I'll just do the massage. Often they'll give in.

[juicysperm]

I never paid more than 30 for HJ with auto roam. Most of them will accept it :D

[NorthGuy]

I never paid more than 30 for HJ with auto roam. Most of them will accept it :D

Same for me. Just be firm about it. For me is take it or leave it. As i only visit those $50/hr type, the most i bring in my wallet is $90.

[juicysperm]

Same for me. Just be firm about it. For me is take it or leave it. As i only visit those $50/hr type, the most i bring in my wallet is $90.

You can bring more money but put some in your pocket before you go into the spa. Leave around 80+ in wallet. Even the ML agreed with 30, you must make sure auto roaming is included before you accept their offer :D

[hawkeye88]

if they ask for $50, you dun give. Normally they will bring the price down?

[juicysperm]

Some of them agreed to accept 30 when left around 5-10 minutes. I will tell them my kukubird not interested anymore because not shiok :D

[oldboi83]

Same for me. Just be firm about it. For me is take it or leave it. As i only visit those $50/hr type, the most i bring in my wallet is $90.

they got a way around this, lets say entrance 50, hj they quote 50 and u say u only have 40 left (total brought 90 right), they do for u at 40 say nvm next time u come again just pay back the 10 shortchange:rolleyes:

[pakpak2001]

Same for me. Just be firm about it. For me is take it or leave it. As i only visit those $50/hr type, the most i bring in my wallet is $90.==============================================
but the girls will shortcut her service and worse may show black CCB face to u
i say "may" only. as not all girls got bad service and bad CCB attitude

[NorthGuy]

but the girls will shortcut her service and worse may show black CCB face to u
i say "may" only. as not all girls got bad service and bad CCB attitude

If that's the case, just let her earn once and move on. There's no lack of places and ladies to go to.

[pakpak2001]

If that's the case, just let her earn once and move on. There's no lack of places and ladies to go to.
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you say it right
also share this black CCB face & attitude here so that other bros can avoid the pain

[hoosdathu]

$50 for just HJ on top of $50 entrance fee a bit steep imho.

so i just cheong JB for the past few years.

but dunno when can go again without SHN when come back sg :(

[NorthGuy]

$50 for just HJ on top of $50 entrance fee a bit steep imho.

so i just cheong JB for the past few years.

but dunno when can go again without SHN when come back sg :(

Same here. I only settle for $30 + $50 entrance. Anything higher might as well go geylang or JB. But seriously how many can don't let their small head take over.

When the MP can reopen, i'm sure many bros will go for a release. Then prices might get jack up again as everyone is hungry, ML and boss starve for a few months will try to get customer to pay more. Bros get deprived of it for months and will think never mind since need it just pay. The hunger trend will continue and prices will rise and never come down.

[ibanezjem555]

Guess it is like haircut... CB lifted, cut hair shop open, all rush..
My regulars are $10-$20.. but they are not lookers.. I just go for massage and take 1.5 hrs each time.
Unfortunately, I agree that smsll head will rule big head and many will pay since pent up demand already, long time no go never mind just spend mentality.. sigh...

[Mr Honey]

$50 for just HJ on top of $50 entrance fee a bit steep imho.

so i just cheong JB for the past few years.

but dunno when can go again without SHN when come back sg :(

$50 special is just for handjob, no roaming no kissing :D

[AG8238217]

1st this is not a healthy lifestyle, but needs are needs. When i 1st found this website, avg was $30 free rom. Hawker food was avg $3 . As time going everything increases, its normal. My salary also increases but im too struck on why pay more than $50. So i had reduced from 2-3 times a week till now 2-3 a month only to those i know $50 is enough to get what i want. If i need more can take a 2D1N trip to batam to fully satisfy myself. The "man" spas in batam is a wonderland. Young girl, good service, good facility and food. I can spent aday in them. Sometimes "stocks" in Singapore feels like over priced expiring food......

[pakpak2001]

Sometimes "stocks" in Singapore feels like over priced expiring food......
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100% agree with u on this
some stocks not only over-price, 1 month away from expiry date but also not delicious and inferior quality chup or juice

[man_sg2000]

1st this is not a healthy lifestyle, but needs are needs. When i 1st found this website, avg was $30 free rom. Hawker food was avg $3 . As time going everything increases, its normal. My salary also increases but im too struck on why pay more than $50. So i had reduced from 2-3 times a week till now 2-3 a month only to those i know $50 is enough to get what i want. If i need more can take a 2D1N trip to batam to fully satisfy myself. The "man" spas in batam is a wonderland. Young girl, good service, good facility and food. I can spent aday in them. Sometimes "stocks" in Singapore feels like over priced expiring food......


Agree with u, bro..
:)

[Zeith]

Agree with u, bro..
:)

Upped +8 for exchange

[Prince Devitt]

$50 for just HJ on top of $50 entrance fee a bit steep imho.

so i just cheong JB for the past few years.

but dunno when can go again without SHN when come back sg :(

Agree with u, bro..
:)

Prince Devitt for exchange

[ceeko]

Post CB u all quote $20 she will also wank lor, if not they get $0

Can even try $10, they don't wank, doesn't matter, cause if she wanted $50... can go geylang get full serviced. why pay $50 for a simple wank

[pete_the_fish]

Post CB u all quote $20 she will also wank lor, if not they get $0

Can even try $10, they don't wank, doesn't matter, cause if she wanted $50... can go geylang get full serviced. why pay $50 for a simple wank

believe me, many will happily pay the "standard" rate. :rolleyes:
the arrogant ones may not want your $30 since 9 out or 10 happy to pay $50. so they don't give a F. just have to blame the bros for not insisting paying lower and let the ML set the"standard" rate. lol

[NorthGuy]

believe me, many will happily pay the "standard" rate. :rolleyes:
the arrogant ones may not want your $30 since 9 out or 10 happy to pay $50. so they don't give a F. just have to blame the bros for not insisting paying lower and let the ML set the"standard" rate. lol

I agree, it's the willingness to give in to what's quoted that pushes price up. Some would want to impress and leave an impression, some is being KC, some is being brainwashed by pitiful stories etc.. A lot of ML are earning more than the average Singaporean who earn 2 to 4k.

[pppp0]

I agree, it's the willingness to give in to what's quoted that pushes price up. Some would want to impress and leave an impression, some is being KC, some is being brainwashed by pitiful stories etc.. A lot of ML are earning more than the average Singaporean who earn 2 to 4k.

I accidentally stumbled on a ledger that was maintained by one in Jan 2020. It recorded the 1st 11 days of the month. Daily recorder taking was from 700+ to 1100. We can deduce non CB period, she probably earns about 30K per month, tax free.

[pppp0]

I accidentally stumbled on a ledger that was maintained by one in Jan 2020. It recorded the 1st 11 days of the month. Daily recorder taking was from 700+ to 1100. We can deduce non CB period, she probably earns about 30K per month, tax free.

This is only for taking that was recorded which she earned from the shop only...exclude outside arrangements.

[Ray06]

Can even try $10, they don't wank, doesn't matter, cause if she wanted $50... can go geylang get full serviced. why pay $50 for a simple wank[/QUOTE]




Some people prefer to lie down on the bed to slowly enjoy a pair of smooth hand rubbing his cock and at the same time rubbing every part of her body.
They just don't like full service which could be quite hazard.

[pete_the_fish]

Can even try $10, they don't wank, doesn't matter, cause if she wanted $50... can go geylang get full serviced. why pay $50 for a simple wank




Some people prefer to lie down on the bed to slowly enjoy a pair of smooth hand rubbing his cock and at the same time rubbing every part of her body.
They just don't like full service which could be quite hazard.

Come on lah, you go geylang cat 50 pay for 2 sessions you can also lie down and the WL more than willing slowly rub you up n down, naked. Dont want full service also no problem. Hj or bj only also can. Lol if u feel like fucking her also no need top up lol

[FreshyPartner]

$50 special is just for handjob, no roaming no kissing :D

Roaming and kissing negotiable :D

[Lobonobo111]

wat abt those MP that quote u $50 after giving HJ? Will u bros bargain down?

[peksync]

I think the pent-up demand and feeling of having saved during this period may just jack up the prices to >$50 lol.

In the end it's negotiable and see which party blinks.

Sadly the small head usually closes eye so let big head kena chopped!

[lazyguy]

Can even try $10, they don't wank, doesn't matter, cause if she wanted $50... can go geylang get full serviced. why pay $50 for a simple wank




Some people prefer to lie down on the bed to slowly enjoy a pair of smooth hand rubbing his cock and at the same time rubbing every part of her body.
They just don't like full service which could be quite hazard.[/QUOTE]

I this type of people.. scare die.. haha..

Still finding the ML that can make me lost control.. haha

[iluvp]

How about $60 for HJ/full auto roam including pussy/frenching, think worth it..

[rahl]

How about $60 for HJ/full auto roam including pussy/frenching, think worth it..

$60-80 is fine for me, but it's not easy to find MLs who will french even for $80 or any amount.

[whatzupplow]

A few of them.

1. 2 milf at Martin road. I know the first masseur FF who has F cup tits. Next I went for her “sis” F, E cup who is next door. First massage same thing.

2. There is also the famous melody (used to be at king George).
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just joined after reading and learning alot. i like juagen. wondering if its possible to share?

[hawkeye88]

So any guys gone for more than $50 today? I went also $50 leh.. sian

[eric998]

One masseur whom I know showed off her tips of more than $400 today in her wechat, all $50 notes. She is a late 30s ml, imagine if she syt.. very good money

[eric998]

$400 cash a day for one month is more than $10000, no wonder so many girls young and old want to do massage..

[hohoguy]

Only paid $30 for HJ today. Tell them take it or leave it.
Seems like today a lot big carrots :rolleyes:

[necrolim]

Only paid $30 for HJ today. Tell them take it or leave it.
Seems like today a lot big carrots :rolleyes:

ditto. ML quoted 50 twice and i said no. then she quote 30 and i agreed, she immediately call me lao jiao.

actually not an old bird. just follow the advice of seniors here.

[sxem]

The risk of bargaining down is that she will give blackface there and then, give a shitty hj and give shitty service even if you rtm.

But then again with such an attitude, i doubt you'd be a regular as well

[ceeko]

The risk of bargaining down is that she will give blackface there and then, give a shitty hj and give shitty service even if you rtm.

But then again with such an attitude, i doubt you'd be a regular as well

Eh... when one is horny and still able to think, I'd rather save the $50, go geylang, $50, gives u a shower, she may blow u during the shower, u can rubba her all u want, on bed, blow u somemore, then fuck till u song.... and if chemistry correct, u can even anal her.

Thats better than any masseuse asking $50 to tugjob till cum lor.

[Penguin23]

I accidentally stumbled on a ledger that was maintained by one in Jan 2020. It recorded the 1st 11 days of the month. Daily recorder taking was from 700+ to 1100. We can deduce non CB period, she probably earns about 30K per month, tax free.

From a number of MLs that I know intimately, $25K a month is no problem for an ang pai. $15K around the average, for a girl that is hardworking but may not be very pretty. You need to deduct 5+ days of period every month where they usually take off or just do HJ (much lower takings, so they usually don't work). Quite a number of them end up losing a big chunk of their earnings in the casinos at MBS and Sentosa during their off-days.

Monthly expenses for them run quite high as well - $2K+ for their permit, $2K for food, make-up and telephone bills, and if they rent a room outside, $1K for room rental. So deduct $5K every month for expenses.

Stealing is rampant in many MPs, there is not a single ML that I know who has not had money stolen before from their lockers.

And their career lifespan is very very short - especially Ang Pais. Being fucked by 10+ guys every day has a serious impact on their bodies as well as their mental outlook. Usually after tasting this life, they find it difficult to adjust back to a normal lifestyle, since spreading legs for money is so much simpler and gets them quite a good sum.

So yeah, maybe an ML can nett $20K in good months after all expenses. But not every month, and they burn out very very quickly.

I had the unfortunate experience of having an ex ang pai as a mistress for 1.5 years after she left Singapore, and I can safely say that her body never fully recovered from her 6+ months of work here.

[AaronKwok123]

Went to look for my SYT waxer when they finally open.
after waxing she wanted to leave but i looked at her pitifully and she got the hint and asked if i want to massage there.

i m prepared to pay $30 only for the HJ but prepared for the possibility of $50.

when she told me the total bill, i was shocked ......it's cheaper than what i had expected. but then i didn't do much roaming . dunno how she charge but hopefully I can still pay the same rate when i return next time :rolleyes:

$50 for a simple HJ is too easy for the MLs. If can take off top and do global roaming, maybe still justfiable. but otherwise, $20 to $30 is a reasonable rate . stop letting the ML dictate the price of HJ. :D

[danilov]

$50 for a simple HJ is too easy for the MLs. If can take off top and do global roaming, maybe still justfiable.

After two months dry season requiring self-hj to release a lot of bros also figure out that the $50 is too easy to earn.

But at $50 usually most ML already allow roaming with bra removed.

[Lampard]

I totally agreed with brothers here. $50 for HJ is too much. Too easy money for this ladies.... Hope all brothers in SG can work together and not pay them so much and push down the price...:D:D:D

[heyumf]

Kena before say 80 dollar I like don't want liao

[Ihazcheezburger]

I support. But almost everyone wants to charge 50 lol

[ceeko]

I support. But almost everyone wants to charge 50 lol

Then reject lor, they already make u so high, just DIY pew out, save $50.. feels more shoik.

[sgpiggybank]

I just got info from 1 of the ML that they actually have a group chat having huge numbers of ML from different spa. Mostly are friends and now they are trying to bring up the market rates of HJ to 80-100. Should we start listing these shops and the Ml names here to avoid being carrot head by them? This should include 50hj with no roaming and force you to add on if you want. I can start with a list. We need to do something to fight back against those money faced ML from sucking our hard earn money. These ml starting a price hike war we need to control it instead of getting control..

[peksync]

wah support this, bros should try to unite and be resolute against further hike!

I just got info from 1 of the ML that they actually have a group chat having huge numbers of ML from different spa. Mostly are friends and now they are trying to bring up the market rates of HJ to 80-100. Should we start listing these shops and the Ml names here to avoid being carrot head by them? This should include 50hj with no roaming and force you to add on if you want. I can start with a list. We need to do something to fight back against those money faced ML from sucking our hard earn money. These ml starting a price hike war we need to control it instead of getting control..

[afterburn]

I just got info from 1 of the ML that they actually have a group chat having huge numbers of ML from different spa. Mostly are friends and now they are trying to bring up the market rates of HJ to 80-100. Should we start listing these shops and the Ml names here to avoid being carrot head by them? This should include 50hj with no roaming and force you to add on if you want. I can start with a list. We need to do something to fight back against those money faced ML from sucking our hard earn money. These ml starting a price hike war we need to control it instead of getting control..

Depend which joint you go to, those charging $80 in usual time will not budge from their rates. Likewise those $50-no-roam kind.

Just avoid these places... No matter how nice the pics, or how sweet the syt, you know these are carrot joints just from the facebook. Go for those without ads, without ML photos. With milf MLs, higher chance of getting good deals.

Anyway business conditions getting tougher now, some MLs already lamenting on wechat and putting out ads. The funniest i saw was one showing gastric meds, say she don't know how to read the instructions on the dosage (like dunno got translator app?) Fishing for carrots, implying she got no money to eat proper meals! :D

[sgpiggybank]

Depend which joint you go to, those charging $80 in usual time will not budge from their rates. Likewise those $50-no-roam kind.

Just avoid these places... No matter how nice the pics, or how sweet the syt, you know these are carrot joints just from the facebook. Go for those without ads, without ML photos. With milf MLs, higher chance of getting good deals.

Anyway business conditions getting tougher now, some MLs already lamenting on wechat and putting out ads. The funniest i saw was one showing gastric meds, say she don't know how to read the instructions on the dosage (like dunno got translator app?) Fishing for carrots, implying she got no money to eat proper meals! :D

Avoiding going is the key. Instead not knowing the price n go there get carrot we need a to do a awareness here for those carrot head ml.

[pakpak2001]

[QUOTE=sgpiggybank;20102149]I just got info from 1 of the ML that they actually have a group chat having huge numbers of ML from different spa. Mostly are friends and now they are trying to bring up the market rates of HJ to 80-100. Should we start listing these shops and the Ml names here to avoid being carrot head by them?
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yes pls do it
i sapport u but i dun supPORK that bak ku teh towkay

i know many idiots here will scold u for destroying the rice bowl of their massage girlfriend but it's the right thing to do - Just Do It

i start my balls rolling - Avoid Anna at Win Spa amk ave 5

[sgpiggybank]

Please do not forward or quote the whole thread and just add to this list. Those with name are from other bros contribution. Some are listed as avoid at all cost is all the ML inside collude on this price and do not visit this shop.

Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer

Those who want to contribute. Just copy and add on as new post. Do not quote and add on to create a long list and admin might give you warning.

Thank you. Let us all fight the price hike scheme and win this war against this bunch of money face ML. Need to punish these money grabber ML and treated us like carrot head.

No need to think AV will go raid these shop name provided as 99.99% SPA in SG have special unless they close all down. Even they go raid this list, serve it as a punishment and removal of these bad mole from Singapore SPA which is good for us. Hurray.

[ApacheOne]

Lao jiao senior bros, paiseh, first time go chiong since before CB, blood go down to cock and big head blur blur Liao cannot think properly. End up chop for CIM. Forgot to count properly and include entrance fee! :o

Bro Sgpiggybank, last time got thread to state the correct market rate. I think you and other senior bros LHL, SA and even boss Sammy all post and teach us. Can also post here the correct pricing? That way we all unite and quote them the same price we willing to pay. We up their chat group with our SBF ML thread. :cool:

HJ no roam: $20-30?
HJ 3G roam: $
HJ 4G (is this equal to global roaming?): $
BJ/BBBJ no roam: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ _____: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ in 69: $__ + $__ if CIM
FJ: $
AJ: $

[ApacheOne]

The risk of bargaining down is that she will give blackface there and then, give a shitty hj and give shitty service even if you rtm.

But then again with such an attitude, i doubt you'd be a regular as well

Or worse, won’t accept the market price you offer but then black face and complain must still give tip, say you bully her blah blah blah

[Mavericks]

Yeah...New GAEA one...really tok u jialat! $100 for HJ & Roaming!!!

[NoodlesWet]

Lao jiao senior bros, paiseh, first time go chiong since before CB, blood go down to cock and big head blur blur Liao cannot think properly. End up chop for CIM. Forgot to count properly and include entrance fee! :o

Bro Sgpiggybank, last time got thread to state the correct market rate. I think you and other senior bros LHL, SA and even boss Sammy all post and teach us. Can also post here the correct pricing? That way we all unite and quote them the same price we willing to pay. We up their chat group with our SBF ML thread. :cool:

HJ no roam: $20-30?
HJ 3G roam: $
HJ 4G (is this equal to global roaming?): $
BJ/BBBJ no roam: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ _____: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ in 69: $__ + $__ if CIM
FJ: $
AJ: $

keen to know current market rate :p

[kal79]

I just got info from 1 of the ML that they actually have a group chat having huge numbers of ML from different spa. Mostly are friends and now they are trying to bring up the market rates of HJ to 80-100. Should we start listing these shops and the Ml names here to avoid being carrot head by them? This should include 50hj with no roaming and force you to add on if you want. I can start with a list. We need to do something to fight back against those money faced ML from sucking our hard earn money. These ml starting a price hike war we need to control it instead of getting control..

Support!!!

[sgpiggybank]

Or worse, won’t accept the market price you offer but then black face and complain must still give tip, say you bully her blah blah blah

Bargain down will black face, cannot touch here n there or worst till pcc turbo with max speed n strength like ripping off your kuku jiao. This is why i do not bargain. Ask n smile if bei gum n say NO thank you.

[TheTrader2359]

Or worse, won’t accept the market price you offer but then black face and complain must still give tip, say you bully her blah blah blah

Don’t care their black face. Just pay them what they deserve then walk off.

[pete_the_fish]

There is no so called market rate. When they ask for 50, you said other place or ML charge you 30 only. This is not bargaining lol. So they can either say ok or no. Of cos service might be restricted. If you really want to go global roaming, then u .can offer to top up.
This way you are dictating the price, not them.

[junmin95]

There is no so called market rate. When they ask for 50, you said other place or ML charge you 30 only. This is not bargaining lol. So they can either say ok or no. Of cos service might be restricted. If you really want to go global roaming, then u .can offer to top up.
This way you are dictating the price, not them.

just now go to a spa in the north, was quoted $80 for hj + top roam.. ji tao reject and ask her do normal massage (no tips). whole session get blackfaced by her and give half fark massage. :(

[junmin95]

Lao jiao senior bros, paiseh, first time go chiong since before CB, blood go down to cock and big head blur blur Liao cannot think properly. End up chop for CIM. Forgot to count properly and include entrance fee! :o

Bro Sgpiggybank, last time got thread to state the correct market rate. I think you and other senior bros LHL, SA and even boss Sammy all post and teach us. Can also post here the correct pricing? That way we all unite and quote them the same price we willing to pay. We up their chat group with our SBF ML thread. :cool:

HJ no roam: $20-30?
HJ 3G roam: $
HJ 4G (is this equal to global roaming?): $
BJ/BBBJ no roam: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ _____: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ in 69: $__ + $__ if CIM
FJ: $
AJ: $


This my guidelines, if negotiation fail, i just reject.

Counter pay either $50 / $68 (package) per hour.

ML Tips:
HJ no roam: Won't consider.
HJ + Top roam: $30
HJ + touch everywhere + see top: $50
BJ / BBBJ + above: $60 (older) - $80 (syt)
FJ: $100 (usually go direct home based FL instead)
AJ: Not interested. should be same price as FJ.

[AaronKwok123]

just now go to a spa in the north, was quoted $80 for hj + top roam.. ji tao reject and ask her do normal massage (no tips). whole session get blackfaced by her and give half fark massage. :(

How did you reject ? I basically just give her a let me think about it look. Lol

[billkate]

just now go to a spa in the north, was quoted $80 for hj + top roam.. ji tao reject and ask her do normal massage (no tips). whole session get blackfaced by her and give half fark massage. :(

She asked GQ at the beginning of massage and not when you turn over?

[NoodlesWet]

This my guidelines, if negotiation fail, i just reject.

Counter pay either $50 / $68 (package) per hour.

ML Tips:
HJ no roam: Won't consider.
HJ + Top roam: $30
HJ + touch everywhere + see top: $50
BJ / BBBJ + above: $60 (older) - $80 (syt)
FJ: $100 (usually go direct home based FL instead)
AJ: Not interested. should be same price as FJ.

HJ + Top Roam $30 where to find :(

[pete_the_fish]

deleted..............

[AaronKwok123]

HJ + Top Roam $30 where to find :(

massage + HJ + top roam + suck boobs if you are lucky >>$50

https://samsforum.com/group.php?do=d...3#gmessage2133

see latest FR in the link

need to join social group for access to FR link. :p

[sgpiggybank]

Please do not forward or quote the whole thread and just add to this list. Those with name are from other bros contribution. Some are listed as avoid at all cost is all the ML inside collude on this price and do not visit this shop.

Update List 20/07/20 GMT1610hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost


Those who want to contribute. Just copy and add on as new post. Do not quote and add on to create a long list and admin might give you warning.

Thank you. Let us all fight the price hike scheme and win this war against this bunch of money face ML. Need to punish these money grabber ML and treated us like carrot head.

No need to think AV will go raid these shop name provided as 99.99% SPA in SG have special unless they close all down. Even they go raid this list, serve it as a punishment and removal of these bad mole from Singapore SPA which is good for us. Hurray.

[Cherrypink4940]

Update List 20/07/20 GMT12345hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost, pushing for over $100 Turkish bubble Massage
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost
Dreamland - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $96 bubble massage
JQ Spa - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $89 Hot Oil massage
H&W spa - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $88 meridian massage
New wellness - Avoid at all cost, pushing for $88 Swedish massage
Coral Sea - Avoid at all cost, pushing for $88 P massage, $80 or $100 for HJ with autoroam
orchid spa - ivy ( insist on pushing p-massage in order to tease, if not, just sop massage )
V wellness Spa - Alice, Apple, Anna, Kira - expensive HJ at least $80 and shop insist on $88 essence meridian massage at the counter

[peksync]

Thanks all for the contributions, can I suggest that we add more specific details to why 'avoid at all cost' instead of just indicating as such?

Examples include higher entrance fees (e.g. 55/58/60+ or keep pushing for 88 and the like), or higher $$ for extras.

Update List 20/07/20 GMT1620hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost
Dreamland - Avoid at all cost
JQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
H&W spa - Avoid at all cost
New wellness - Avoid at all cost
Coral Sea - Avoid at all cost

[afterburn]

Have seen ad for a new spa in binjai, bukit timah that charges $60 per hr :eek: in times like this, but the facebook cover show 2 syt in t-shirt :p

[siaoded]

Update List 20/07/20 GMT1620hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost
Dreamland - Avoid at all cost
JQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
H&W spa - Avoid at all cost
New wellness - Avoid at all cost
Coral Sea - Avoid at all cost
orchid spa - ivy ( insist on pushing p-massage in order to tease, if not, just sop massage )

[peksync]

Happened to be on the way so tried my luck to recce lol, though couldn't find the ad or fb beforehand. At $60 still full leh lol, but dunno how many MLs.

Now the fb page think no more SYTs liao.

Have seen ad for a new spa in binjai, bukit timah that charges $60 per hr :eek: in times like this, but the facebook cover show 2 syt in t-shirt :p

[ceeko]

Awesome.... its the best time to blacklist and rid all the greedy $50 and higher Handjob Massage conjobs

[Hornykid456]

Happened to be on the way so tried my luck to recce lol, though couldn't find the ad or fb beforehand. At $60 still full leh lol, but dunno how many MLs.

Now the fb page think no more SYTs liao.

k**** spa? saw that they have promo for $48/hr for weekday before 5pm

[cornyham]

50 + 100 is get what service ? Bj and auto roam ? Or chop carrot ?

[Cherrypink4940]

Have seen ad for a new spa in binjai, bukit timah that charges $60 per hr :eek: in times like this, but the facebook cover show 2 syt in t-shirt :p

This place offers $88 Hot Stone massage as well. Took up the $60 per hour massage but masseuse pestered me to upgrade to $88 hot stone massage.

[Cherrypink4940]

Update List 20/07/20 GMT2345hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost, pushing for over $100 Turkish bubble Massage
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer, HJ $80 to roam outside, HJ $100 to roam inside
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost, HJ at least $80
Dreamland - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $96 bubble massage
JQ Spa - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $89 Hot Oil massage
H&W spa - Avoid at all cost, Pushing for $88 meridian massage
New wellness - Avoid at all cost, pushing for $88 Swedish massage
Coral Sea - Avoid at all cost, pushing for $88 P massage, $80 or $100 for HJ with autoroam
orchid spa - ivy ( insist on pushing p-massage in order to tease, if not, just sop massage )
V wellness Spa - Alice, Apple, Anna, Kira - expensive HJ at $80 and shop insist on $88 essence meridian massage at the counter

[AaronKwok123]

Summer at joneling so greedy ah . when i visited her last year, keep trying to upsell me ask me top up to $88 package. told he no thanks. then ask me if i want HJ, just told her no. :D

[sgpiggybank]

Dreamland i kana the 96 massage also. Bigger bed n ml hard to massage n just put bubble n use cloth wipe me. Knn like cleaning table on me. Ml ask me next time dun take...

Agree in new wellness, go there counter auto say 88. I scold her n walk off, they behave like bandits. Normally they will say 50 n ask if u want 88. I ban new wellness for 2 years liao

Coral sea is 50 n roaming top up 30. Btw coral sea n taoyuan same boss so both side ml knows each other. Damage will be the same at 80 with roaming. Last one is try at coral sea allow me to roam with bra on at 50 and bra off is 80...

[afterburn]

k**** spa? saw that they have promo for $48/hr for weekday before 5pm

As long as don't try to force an upgrade at the counter, 48 is worth a try. Hope more spa have off peak promos... now some people still WfH can take advantage of the deals :o

[Fun4NewBird]

There one i went nearby Harbour Front cant rmb name, HJ + auto roam with bra off and pantie down but still feel like got carrot chop end up $100 dmg + entrance fee $50

[lazyguy]

50 + 100 is get what service ? Bj and auto roam ? Or chop carrot ?

Depend I think 80 for bj+roaming bah..

If need 100 .. I think should go massage page to find one.. 100 or 110.. everything..

[alex17]

Update List 20/07/20 GMT1620hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary
New GAEA - Avoid at all cost. All ML collude to give HJ 50 and later increase when you touch.
Yin Qian Ge - Wendy
Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost
LQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
Jonesling Chi Spa - Summer
WOW SPA - Avoid at all cost
Dreamland - Avoid at all cost
JQ Spa - Avoid at all cost
H&W spa - Avoid at all cost
New wellness - Avoid at all cost
Coral Sea - Avoid at all cost
orchid spa - ivy ( insist on pushing p-massage in order to tease, if not, just sop massage )ivy at orchid spa,yeah he alway push p.massage and handjob.and she have a big breast which is hidden.bro,any fr for ivy?

[peksync]

Yeah ever since the $88 was started by the infamous spa it has appeared in a majority of places.

Increasingly they are quite upfront that if you choose the normal $50 type it gonna be massage of selected parts only and probably half-baked as well.

[pakpak2001]

[QUOTE=Cherrypink4940;20106522]Update List 20/07/20 GMT12345hrs
Win SPA - Anna/Coco, Eva, Kary

Tao Yuan - Avoid at all cost, pushing for over $100 Turkish bubble Massage
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Win Spa : avoid Anna/Coco at all costs.
actually Kary and Eva not too bad in my personal 1cent opinion

Tao Yuan too - avoid at all costs
same with those Viets at Dunlop and Little India area

[pakpak2001]

[QUOTE=peksync;20107856]Yeah ever since the $88 was started by the infamous spa it has appeared in a majority of places.
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avoid spas, no biz they lang lang have to drop price
also drop their bra and panty too

also covid spreading again fast, better avoid spas for time being
keep yourself and money alive, live to cheong another day

[ibanezjem555]

Agree, there are many avoiding spas due to CoVID19 fears. In the long term, as economy deteriorates, less business for spas.. so why pay more ? Or why pay at all ?

[sgpiggybank]

There one i went nearby Harbour Front cant rmb name, HJ + auto roam with bra off and pantie down but still feel like got carrot chop end up $100 dmg + entrance fee $50

Wow. Carrot head spa. Can add to the list with the ML name to be fair. Unless whole shop ML all collude to offer only HJ 80 and above.

Guy, take the list as info. Those shop pushing 88 package can be as a reference but not consider as avoid at all cost. We are targeting carrot head ML not shop. For shops it is their counter duty to push 88 package so as to reduce the risk of AV catching them since 100% of the shops offer HJ. With 88 package they officially can touch your small head. Of course excessive pushing can be also very irritating so again you all just take the list for reference and not to fall into 88 package scam.

For example, H** is my regular place and they always ask 50 or 88 at counter. I never take 88 but go into the room they will ask which serve me before and as a regular I can state a list of names and their background. GQ auto pop up and to be frank their is $50 with bra off roaming. Since they know I am regular and is safe to do it.

Look at mainly carrot head ML and not shop in the list. These are the main to avoid. Some shop might have greedy ML who wants 100 for HJ but there are some gems inside not colluding with them to chop us. For example, Yin Qian Ge have 3ML and only wendy charges at 80 for HJ and other 2 charges at 50. Then still visits other 2 gems. So we state the name of the ML instead of the whole shop.

[nishikado]

I was actually thinking to drop by orchid spa cause i saw people recommending star. She good? Any fr?

[Fun4NewBird]

Wow. Carrot head spa. Can add to the list with the ML name to be fair. Unless whole shop ML all collude to offer only HJ 80 and above.

Guy, take the list as info. Those shop pushing 88 package can be as a reference but not consider as avoid at all cost. We are targeting carrot head ML not shop. For shops it is their counter duty to push 88 package so as to reduce the risk of AV catching them since 100% of the shops offer HJ. With 88 package they officially can touch your small head. Of course excessive pushing can be also very irritating so again you all just take the list for reference and not to fall into 88 package scam.

For example, H** is my regular place and they always ask 50 or 88 at counter. I never take 88 but go into the room they will ask which serve me before and as a regular I can state a list of names and their background. GQ auto pop up and to be frank their is $50 with bra off roaming. Since they know I am regular and is safe to do it.

Look at mainly carrot head ML and not shop in the list. These are the main to avoid. Some shop might have greedy ML who wants 100 for HJ but there are some gems inside not colluding with them to chop us. For example, Yin Qian Ge have 3ML and only wendy charges at 80 for HJ and other 2 charges at 50. Then still visits other 2 gems. So we state the name of the ML instead of the whole shop.

Agree the ML go by the name 开心 on wechat but totally not 开心 for me...haha photo also not match..feels kena ripped off. plus counter when i ask if can i verify the ML before i proceed and insisted i pay 50 and waited 30min for her job done...

[ceeko]

Just boycott all the $88 bullshit.

I know I am and I can

Those who think with their dicks..... you idiots are those that are causing them to be greedy.

[pete_the_fish]

S spa started this bullshit. Take up 88 then got massage butt n thigh ...wtf is this shit? Ban straight away after 1 time. But my fren told me me s spa at BB actually got release for 88 package

[afterburn]

S spa started this bullshit. Take up 88 then got massage butt n thigh ...wtf is this shit? Ban straight away after 1 time. But my fren told me me s spa at BB actually got release for 88 package

hahahah ..... even the clean TCM i go to have massage butt and thigh. Just say where is hurting, the ML will massage lah. But not tender strokes horr

[rahl]

S spa started this bullshit. Take up 88 then got massage butt n thigh ...wtf is this shit? Ban straight away after 1 time. But my fren told me me s spa at BB actually got release for 88 package

The first truly teasing massage I had was more than 10 years ago at a joint at AMK, the 2nd storey type. The 88 p massage scam hadnt come up at that time.

[supershaft]

i dont even give, just 50 all in....

[pete_the_fish]

i dont even give, just 50 all in....

now no more geylang cat 50 lah...where got $50 all in (plus HJ) please recommend. :D

[supershaft]

now no more geylang cat 50 lah...where got $50 all in (plus HJ) please recommend. :D


just $20 quickie HJ under 10min also have, if one wants to just go straight to the highlight instead of the usual crappy pressing. lol

[MrBi]

How about Kings Spa? Saw the girl chio leh but not sure got GQ not. Any bro can advise? Don’t want waste money ah..hahaha:D

[pete_the_fish]

just $20 quickie HJ under 10min also have, if one wants to just go straight to the highlight instead of the usual crappy pressing. lol

Any roaming and lift up bra ...if not i do myself better

[supershaft]

Any roaming and lift up bra ...if not i do myself better

then do yourself

[ibanezjem555]

I think at $20 must be a bit more realistic.. if girl can earn $50 but let go at $20 must have few factors like not so good looking, age catching up, not so popular with customer, or ...

..so super regular carrot chop by her so much or mesmerised by her charms and gave her expensive gifts that she never mind mai hiam lah.. which defeats the purpose anyway for value for money..

Girls in this line must try to earn when young.. so $50 and reduce over time is market strategy called price skimming..

SyT, free auto top roam, nice spa with atmosphere, still $20.. must be the bro that so suai ker and sweet tongue mersmerise her.. ha ha.. or maybe in a spa but not in S'pore.

There are $20 .. but it will not be ideal circumstances.. some give and take...

[lollipo]

if the girl auto go give me hj and did not say a thing do i need to pay her $50 afterwards? i also feel bad to not tip her after that since i did not stop her for hj.

[rahl]

I rather pay 50 but it must include add ons like roaming, stripping...

80 can, but the gal must treat me like long lost lover :)

[supershaft]

I think at $20 must be a bit more realistic.. if girl can earn $50 but let go at $20 must have few factors like not so good looking, age catching up, not so popular with customer, or ...

..so super regular carrot chop by her so much or mesmerised by her charms and gave her expensive gifts that she never mind mai hiam lah.. which defeats the purpose anyway for value for money..

Girls in this line must try to earn when young.. so $50 and reduce over time is market strategy called price skimming..

SyT, free auto top roam, nice spa with atmosphere, still $20.. must be the bro that so suai ker and sweet tongue mersmerise her.. ha ha.. or maybe in a spa but not in S'pore.

There are $20 .. but it will not be ideal circumstances.. some give and take...

you be surprised bro.. but time being keep it exclusive.. ha

[ceeko]

now no more geylang cat 50 lah...where got $50 all in (plus HJ) please recommend. :D

U just say $20 for handjob, they want they make $20, they don't want, you go home ownself jerk and shoot, $20 can eat nice food later too.


DO NOT EVER SUCCUMB TO $50 Hand JOBS!!!

[ahu82]

I visited a ml twice for $88 session. First time nothing happened but second visit she teased and did a hj for me without me asking for it. She didn't ask for anything after the session but I tipped her $20. Has any bros encountered this before and did you tip the ml?

[rahl]

U just say $20 for handjob, they want they make $20, they don't want, you go home ownself jerk and shoot, $20 can eat nice food later too.


DO NOT EVER SUCCUMB TO $50 Hand JOBS!!!

Nah, if you are looking for special, you reject and save 30, but leave with blue balls. Is 30 worth the disappointment? I don't think so.

Of cos if you have a regular who charges 20 and gives good massage, you can rtm. But different story if it's a first time ML.

[siaoded]

if the girl auto go give me hj and did not say a thing do i need to pay her $50 afterwards? i also feel bad to not tip her after that since i did not stop her for hj.

wah, can pm me where is it. I feel maybe should at least tip her if you really enjoy it. what do yall bros advice?

[HSB2000]

wah, can pm me where is it. I feel maybe should at least tip her if you really enjoy it. what do yall bros advice?


Some joint/ML does provide free HJ, so don't just tip for the sake of tipping...

[afterburn]

wah, can pm me where is it. I feel maybe should at least tip her if you really enjoy it. what do yall bros advice?

If you enjoy the svc, nothing wrong with giving a small tip. Not the standard $50, but a benchmark is that the ML usually gets $15 out of the $50 per hour massage.

Should encourage, not exploit, the good and not so greedy ones.

[ApacheOne]

Have seen ad for a new spa in binjai, bukit timah that charges $60 per hr :eek: in times like this, but the facebook cover show 2 syt in t-shirt :p

I also say. That is district 10/11 area (?), got a lot of expat so not surprising to see $60. But now every else also charging higher entrance. So many now $58 per hour, $88 for 90 mins. Haiz

[ApacheOne]

How about Kings Spa? Saw the girl chio leh but not sure got GQ not. Any bro can advise? Don’t want waste money ah..hahaha:D

Tried recently. Push P massage. Will say that shit about no P massage then cannot massage butt, stomach. I stuck to standard. Room is clean and have shower inside.
No GQ was asked. Could just be me and your luck is better than mine.

[tiko]

Now even got out skirts charging $ 69 per hour for normal massage

And those in town charging $100 for HJ plus roaming..

Complete madness


QUOTE=ApacheOne;20122741]I also say. That is district 10/11 area (?), got a lot of expat so not surprising to see $60. But now every else also charging higher entrance. So many now $58 per hour, $88 for 90 mins. Haiz[/QUOTE]

[Leeds]

I always bargain one even when ML charge lower than $50, I will push the price down as I believe there is no market price for this service. It is base on willing buyer willing seller mindset.

[ApacheOne]

if the girl auto go give me hj and did not say a thing do i need to pay her $50 afterwards? i also feel bad to not tip her after that since i did not stop her for hj.

Some joint/ML does provide free HJ, so don't just tip for the sake of tipping...

Agree. Welcome bonus - see it as loyalty package. If me I would just say next time i feel like massage will definitely find her.
But I am still hoping for this to happen to me! :rolleyes:

[ApacheOne]

I visited a ml twice for $88 session. First time nothing happened but second visit she teased and did a hj for me without me asking for it. She didn't ask for anything after the session but I tipped her $20. Has any bros encountered this before and did you tip the ml?

You paid 38+38=$76 for a HJ and you thought it’s too cheap so give $20 more? Can all you rich guys stop making prices go up? Some ppl not so rich leh!

[hannibald]

Value is something that is very subjective. Some people willing to pay S$17 for a plate of chicken rice, while others will not even pay more than S$3 a plate.

One thing i realized after chionging for close to 20 years, is that, you may save S$20 after intense bargaining, but end up getting sub-par service such as mechanical HJ or ML black faced all the way, it is then not even worth the S$30 that you are paying.

Of course, if you happen to find a ML who will accept S$20 or S$30 for HJ and still give reasonable friendly service, then it's your fortune, and make sure you hang on to her and visit her for all your needs.

[ApacheOne]

This my guidelines, if negotiation fail, i just reject.

Counter pay either $50 / $68 (package) per hour.

ML Tips:
HJ no roam: Won't consider.
HJ + Top roam: $30
HJ + touch everywhere + see top: $50
BJ / BBBJ + above: $60 (older) - $80 (syt)
FJ: $100 (usually go direct home based FL instead)
AJ: Not interested. should be same price as FJ.

Thanks bro junmin

Any other bros can provide guidance to the inexperienced/shy ones in order to keep price reasonable, please share since another bro has shared that the MLs colude to make prices higher.
HJ no roam: $20-30?
HJ 3G roam: $
HJ 4G (is this equal to global roaming?): $
BJ/BBBJ no roam: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ _____: $__ + $__ if CIM
BJ/BBBJ in 69: $__ + $__ if CIM
FJ: $
AJ: $

[superstiffy]

Value is something that is very subjective. Some people willing to pay S$17 for a plate of chicken rice, while others will not even pay more than S$3 a plate.

One thing i realized after chionging for close to 20 years, is that, you may save S$20 after intense bargaining, but end up getting sub-par service such as mechanical HJ or ML black faced all the way, it is then not even worth the S$30 that you are paying.

Of course, if you happen to find a ML who will accept S$20 or S$30 for HJ and still give reasonable friendly service, then it's your fortune, and make sure you hang on to her and visit her for all your needs.


Tio liao la bro... last time i keep explain this but nobody understand! Want to play must enjoy if not enjoy then dun play...

ML tell u 50.. u take it or leave... dun bargain... you bargain until $30 and she accept then give you ai mai service you not happy is not waste $30 leh also got entry $50 so total waste $80... pay $20 more can song song gao jurong.. which one better?

[MrBi]

Dear Bros,

Does anyone has the FR for K***gs spa?
See the girls like quite chio but scare will be disappointed. :rolleyes:

Any kind bro can advise?

[pete_the_fish]

Tio liao la bro... last time i keep explain this but nobody understand! Want to play must enjoy if not enjoy then dun play...

ML tell u 50.. u take it or leave... dun bargain... you bargain until $30 and she accept then give you ai mai service you not happy is not waste $30 leh also got entry $50 so total waste $80... pay $20 more can song song gao jurong.. which one better?

Ok. What if you don't bargain and pay what the ML asked for....and still get the same shit service ? Lol. You sure pay 20 more will reach jurong ?

[pete_the_fish]

Value is something that is very subjective. Some people willing to pay S$17 for a plate of chicken rice, while others will not even pay more than S$3 a plate.

One thing i realized after chionging for close to 20 years, is that, you may save S$20 after intense bargaining, but end up getting sub-par service such as mechanical HJ or ML black faced all the way, it is then not even worth the S$30 that you are paying.

Of course, if you happen to find a ML who will accept S$20 or S$30 for HJ and still give reasonable friendly service, then it's your fortune, and make sure you hang on to her and visit her for all your needs.

I also cheong for 20 years. Most of the time I save 20 and still get good service lah. The fact is many paid 50 and still get mechanical Hj. Somemore pay 50 still need to top up for extra like roaming ....so if they ask you top up how? Now you show black face instead of her lol

[torrefy]

I also cheong for 20 years. Most of the time I save 20 and still get good service lah. The fact is many paid 50 and still get mechanical Hj. Somemore pay 50 still need to top up for extra like roaming ....so if they ask you top up how? Now you show black face instead of her lol

I agree. Usually I bargain then if they agree, and they do a great job, I usually just top it back up to the "standard". Then if I return, almost always get better results or even more, but won't top up for the extra la. If bad service, just don't return lorh.

[superstiffy]

Ok. What if you don't bargain and pay what the ML asked for....and still get the same shit service ? Lol. You sure pay 20 more will reach jurong ?

Happen before.. then i just dun go back to the shop lo... or go back and choose different ML...

For me is very simple... i dun like people to chop me so I also dun chop people. Just be fair can already... In my job 90% of customer will come and ask me to lower quotation... so I just take this out, take that out, change cheaper parts then the quote lower liao.. they see already happy and sign but they dunno all the ho liao parts replace with cmi ones...

Maybe $50 hj got up down up down then add some turn left turn right... bargain liao only got up down.. no more left right.. :D :D

[rahl]

I also cheong for 20 years. Most of the time I save 20 and still get good service lah. The fact is many paid 50 and still get mechanical Hj. Somemore pay 50 still need to top up for extra like roaming ....so if they ask you top up how? Now you show black face instead of her lol

That's what for the forum is for. Be a bit more pro active here, learn to search the genuine FRs, and in all likelihood you will get a good experience if not a great one with a ML who has been well reviewed, while not overpaying.

[afterburn]

Some ML that relented and gave discount will often say straight out not to let others know, and especially not to let other ML in the shop know :D

But really, bargaining down is a possibility nowadays, economy is going down, people are losing their jobs, and biz is bad for most places, and more so during off peak times.

[ceeko]

I have absolutley no fucking mercy for massage whores that inisist on $50 hand jobs and more for everything else..

Encountered one more at Grandlink Sq Rejuvenate (Yes I expose such shops too)

Die die insist $50, die die want $100 for blowjob. I told her max i have is $30 got others give at $30.... she was still there toying with my dick teasing it kept demanding $80 i strip. here nobody give u $30 one

I just ok, fuck it, I don't want, I go shower wank I save $50..... I bochup her black face

To those who still wish to be carrot head. by all means carry on. if u think I'm ruining a playground? I'm not. Just to let them know that there are some guys who can still think with the real head.

[pete_the_fish]

Happen before.. then i just dun go back to the shop lo... or go back and choose different ML...

For me is very simple... i dun like people to chop me so I also dun chop people. Just be fair can already... In my job 90% of customer will come and ask me to lower quotation... so I just take this out, take that out, change cheaper parts then the quote lower liao.. they see already happy and sign but they dunno all the ho liao parts replace with cmi ones...

Maybe $50 hj got up down up down then add some turn left turn right... bargain liao only got up down.. no more left right.. :D :D

same what....i ask for $30 HJ...if fucked up, then i don't go back and look for another girl...in addition i saved $20 also lol :D

the thing is this, is $50 HJ include take off top and bra for roaming and sucking of boobs ? If the ML can make $50 a standard rate for HJ, we cheongster also expect $50 to inlcude those services as standard, or what you call value added services. fair and square. But to many ML, roaming and take off top is not a standard when you pay $50, they say if take off top additional $20 or $30. lol

This is the reason why people are bargaining down to $20 or $30 if it's simply just a HJ and nothing more, which I am sure many are experiencing.

if you cut corner when people pay lesser, simple, people don't go back.

[pete_the_fish]

That's what for the forum is for. Be a bit more pro active here, learn to search the genuine FRs, and in all likelihood you will get a good experience if not a great one with a ML who has been well reviewed, while not overpaying.

You joined since 2002 you should know what the massage forum is like.

be more proactive here? like how ?

search for genuiene FR? you mean from those sponsored post ? lol

if really got good lobang, many will not post openly in the forum.....even if it's posted in the forum, it gets deleted. that's why I stop posting FRs here, you can read it somewhere else where no one except me can delete them. :rolleyes:

[testoste]

To me, I would always say to ML that 50 include top roam + boob suckling, ie the market expectation.

[rahl]

You joined since 2002 you should know what the massage forum is like.

be more proactive here? like how ?

search for genuiene FR? you mean from those sponsored post ? lol

if really got good lobang, many will not post openly in the forum.....even if it's posted in the forum, it gets deleted. that's why I stop posting FRs here, you can read it somewhere else where no one except me can delete them. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry if you fail to find a genuine FR in this forum. What are you doing here then?

Proactive? How about pming the FR writer for contact? Learn to tell a genuine FR from a fake one?

These are not just cheonging skills, they are lifeskills man.

[superstiffy]

same what....i ask for $30 HJ...if fucked up, then i don't go back and look for another girl...in addition i saved $20 also lol :D

the thing is this, is $50 HJ include take off top and bra for roaming and sucking of boobs ? If the ML can make $50 a standard rate for HJ, we cheongster also expect $50 to inlcude those services as standard, or what you call value added services. fair and square. But to many ML, roaming and take off top is not a standard when you pay $50, they say if take off top additional $20 or $30. lol

This is the reason why people are bargaining down to $20 or $30 if it's simply just a HJ and nothing more, which I am sure many are experiencing.

if you cut corner when people pay lesser, simple, people don't go back.

Bro thats what i saying... u can say u save $20 but can also say u waste $80 for half fuck service mah...

For me $50 is include roaming... those ML that come and say $50 got no roaming then I tell them ok thank you... can stop liao... i dun bargain.. is jit tao no need special liao... so i save $50 or waste only $50...

But hor at that moment not many cheongster can tahan la... i train for many years then can...

[sgpiggybank]

Bro thats what i saying... u can say u save $20 but can also say u waste $80 for half fuck service mah...

For me $50 is include roaming... those ML that come and say $50 got no roaming then I tell them ok thank you... can stop liao... i dun bargain.. is jit tao no need special liao... so i save $50 or waste only $50...

But hor at that moment not many cheongster can tahan la... i train for many years then can...

Agree with you

[dbrudder]

Some places ask for $80. 😳

[pandab]

I ever deal for $60-70 for bbbj and boob fu**. Pulled the ML to kiss her too.

Pls dun PM and ask me where, its how you build rapport with sweet talk and nego.

[pete_the_fish]

I'm sorry if you fail to find a genuine FR in this forum. What are you doing here then?

Proactive? How about pming the FR writer for contact? Learn to tell a genuine FR from a fake one?

These are not just cheonging skills, they are lifeskills man.

There are m many FR, in sponsored thread. I usually don't read them . Many who don't write FR suddenly start writing FR there. Lol. Many genuine FR have been deleted. You here so long you should know. If not, what have you been doing here ?

What I Do here is the same as what you do here. Lol

This is a forum, what life's skill...more like skill in navigating a forum.

[raredaredevil]

Personally, I think paying money for handjob is the lamest thing ever when you could just do it yourself. It's basically paying to masturbate when you could do it yourself. How gay is that. The most you should pay is $20 to $30. Anything more, forget it. $50 is a joke. That should be a blowjob.

[SgBoy86]

In the past when most MPs are Malaysians and SGs, it's the usual $50, $80 and $100.

Then those really big MPs with facilities close down 1 by 1, and i started going to smaller MP shops where there's viet, prc, sg, tw and stuff. They still have the usual $50, $80 and $100 menu, of course got a few chop carrot place like Aldelphi and stuff.

To me, I've grown up to a culture where $50 = hj + strip autoroam, anything lesser than that is a no for me and that's my bottomline.

I've even had lucky experience of $50 fj with local ah lian in the past, but what happens in the past stays in the past.

[candeo_88]

From the psychological point of view, most guys expect the thrill of getting a lady, preferably chio and sexy to hold his dong and jack him off. There's an excellent article from the Metro UK webpage from August 2017 on this topic.

Personally, I'd rather go for a very good rubdown w/o extras OR go full. No in betweens when the inbetween aka HJ can be performed FOC ownself :D

$50 can get me 4 if not 5 sirloin steaks meals at my friendly neighbourhood hawker center :p:p:cool::cool:

Anyway, that's my 2 cents...Stay safe everyone.

[el88]

just be firm, $30 or nothing. some places can even get $20

[Sheenymilano]

I joined for 4 years liao initially share good fR got points then ccb all the spa owners keep advertising bloody 88 +50... Gan them and kanna zap until now no points

I hear u bros... fuck these spa owners creating clone accounts to advertise give fake fR... Indirectly they are setting hj market price higher and higher

Just look at other forums last time is s spa now le mandarin Spa le Spa all 88 ++++50 hj 70 3g 804g smlj

Hard times now good times we support bad times they raise price

I already start to boycott and force ml to accept 30 or no go.. All meceneries

My regular ml say boss now must do p massage so LL pay 80 then I told her then too bad I give u 20 only
At end I hor sim give 30 ccb deleted by wechat. I told her go to hell if she dun wan the 30 ill. Support someone else that do
its cutthroat now man




(QUoTE=pete_the_fish;20127289]You joined since 2002 you should know what the massage forum is like.

be more proactive here? like how ?

search for genuiene FR? you mean from those sponsored post ? lol

if really got good lobang, many will not post openly in the forum.....even if it's posted in the forum, it gets deleted. that's why I stop posting FRs here, you can read it somewhere else where no one except me can delete them. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

[jacky2]

Actually most of the thai massage i went in SG, they are ok with $30, but mostly milf la. Youngest thai masseur i went is at little india, infact she is the only vn in the shop.

[pete_the_fish]

Sorry I succumbed to 50 HJ recently . 20yo syt that's why. But then got unhook bra and suck boobs. .....still I think quite ex for a 10 to 15 min job lol

[jacky2]

Sorry I succumbed to 50 HJ recently . 20yo syt that's why. But then got unhook bra and suck boobs. .....still I think quite ex for a 10 to 15 min job lol

Went to macpherson massage last night, got a 21 years old vn sweetie with whole back tattoo. I also gave $30 leh. In between msg you need to talk sincerely and make friend with her.

[dadadi]

Try 30
If they say 50 they just pay and then next time don’t go lol

[hoosdathu]

standard quote for HJ now is $50, but the MLs provide different perks like removal of clothing, allow playing/sucking of tits, kissing etc.

imho better gotta negotiate first before answering yes to GQ...

[gameboy234]

Very lugi my last massage. 50 hj autoroam only outside.

[jacky2]

Very lugi my last massage. 50 hj autoroam only outside.

The just give her $30 lor. If she ask why, u just say if autoroam inside then give 50. If every brother do the same, we can get our hard earned $$$ work better.

[gameboy234]

Thai plump auntie also can request $50 for hj..

[hoosdathu]

appears that $50 is the "new normal", gone are the days of $30 HJs.

the key is to negotiate what "value-added sevices" are included when the GQ is popped.

[blurboi06]

Have been a saint for the past 6 months due to COVID.

Went to a spa in jurong west just now. Walk in and choose the 60min $50 massage like I used to. Then the receptionist ask me something about oil and top up $38 to make it $88. I was like wtf? and told her no, just normal 60 min will do.

A SYT came to my room and mid way thru the massage, I was expecting the GQ (due to the way she massage). To my surprise, she told me in order for her to do HJ, I HAVE TO TOP UP additional $38 to make it $88 and then still need to give her tip for $50 for HJ. so total damage will be $138. I was like siao ah! not worth man. I told her I dun want and she keep psycho saying i’m her first customer today blah blah, i rejected her again and she just proceed to massage my head and face till time is up.

Not going to return again.

[lam1673]

I have been RTMing this Thai aunty who massage at $42 per hour and I pay additional $30 for balls massage and release. She is frankly speaking not attractive in looks and has a skinny body but her massage and teasing are good. She will spend a good 10min to massage and stimulate my cock and balls before finally jerking me off. I am of the kind that is hard to cum and even get aroused without proper stimulation, she did well in this aspect and I always have a great release. I don't even roam her although I believe she does not mind.
So in total I spend $72 for a good massage and release. Not a bad deal.

[hoosdathu]

So in total I spend $72 for a good massage and release. Not a bad deal.

buay pai wor...
home based massage?

[hoosdathu]

To my surprise, she told me in order for her to do HJ, I HAVE TO TOP UP additional $38 to make it $88 and then still need to give her tip for $50 for HJ. so total damage will be $138. I was like siao ah! not worth man. I told her I dun want and she keep psycho saying i’m her first customer today blah blah, i rejected her again and she just proceed to massage my head and face till time is up.

quite silly of the ML, lol...
die die wanna earn extra $38 for the boss, lose out on the $50 for herself :o

[didican]

Have been a saint for the past 6 months due to COVID.

Went to a spa in jurong west just now. Walk in and choose the 60min $50 massage like I used to. Then the receptionist ask me something about oil and top up $38 to make it $88. I was like wtf? and told her no, just normal 60 min will do.

A SYT came to my room and mid way thru the massage, I was expecting the GQ (due to the way she massage). To my surprise, she told me in order for her to do HJ, I HAVE TO TOP UP additional $38 to make it $88 and then still need to give her tip for $50 for HJ. so total damage will be $138. I was like siao ah! not worth man. I told her I dun want and she keep psycho saying i’m her first customer today blah blah, i rejected her again and she just proceed to massage my head and face till time is up.

Not going to return again.

Bro, is it the VW spa ? They are quite pushy about the topup.

[sgpiggybank]

WARNING!

FR for a Lv2 shop at Chinatown. Beside Buddha Relic Temple.
There are 2 shops there and 1 yellow signboard and 1 White Signboard from the outside.

Walk in a door lock so need to wait for them unlock. Toilet is far from room at the kitchen and all rooms no shower area. Advertise a manicure and facial shop.

1 VIET MILF open the door and body is good. Paid entrance $50 and walk all the way from room to toilet to bath. I though she is the one coming in to massage. In the end 1 huge elephant comes in and I requested for the VIET MILF but she got booking. So have to stick to this baby elephant as the shop have no other ML.

Massage as usual non existence. 30 mins and pop GQ, HJ 100, BJ 150 and FJ 250. WTF! Such a ugly elephant this kind of price...I tell her you crazy with these prices. She say you first time come out play? Market rates also do not know? I straight tell her your market rates not mine. I tell her 50 HJ take it or leave it. During Hj, keep pestering for FJ. She looks really ugly and fat so cannot even make my bro stand. In the end I give up, I tell her you damped my mood on the pestering and I just stand up to leave. Then she tell me $120 for FJ she can accept. I tell her never mind, no mood. Pay her $50 and leave without firing.....Better avoid this shop.

Anyone got FR on the yellow signboard shop? No FR I will skip as I believe will be same standard as this shop...

[pete_the_fish]

Want to condemn the shop please post big big ok ?

[HSB2000]

WARNING!

FR for a Lv2 shop at Chinatown. Beside Buddha Relic Temple.
There are 2 shops there and 1 yellow signboard and 1 White Signboard from the outside.

Walk in a door lock so need to wait for them unlock. Toilet is far from room at the kitchen and all rooms no shower area. Advertise a manicure and facial shop.

1 VIET MILF open the door and body is good. Paid entrance $50 and walk all the way from room to toilet to bath. I though she is the one coming in to massage. In the end 1 huge elephant comes in and I requested for the VIET MILF but she got booking. So have to stick to this baby elephant as the shop have no other ML.

Massage as usual non existence. 30 mins and pop GQ, HJ 100, BJ 150 and FJ 250. WTF! Such a ugly elephant this kind of price...I tell her you crazy with these prices. She say you first time come out play? Market rates also do not know? I straight tell her your market rates not mine. I tell her 50 HJ take it or leave it. During Hj, keep pestering for FJ. She looks really ugly and fat so cannot even make my bro stand. In the end I give up, I tell her you damped my mood on the pestering and I just stand up to leave. Then she tell me $120 for FJ she can accept. I tell her never mind, no mood. Pay her $50 and leave without firing.....Better avoid this shop.

Anyone got FR on the yellow signboard shop? No FR I will skip as I believe will be same standard as this shop...

Bro I cannot understand why you still accept the extra??? Why not save the $50 and just walk off???

[ceeko]

Rejuvenate spa at grandlink also.. another chao kuan ML

Die die die also $50 for HJ and claim "nobody" take $30 one.. So. I post big big here lor.

End up she didn't make $30, I saved $50.

Ownself PCC in the shower more shoik. The $50 i saved, can eat dunno how many sirloin/ribeyes lor.

[kepodang]

Rejuvenate spa at grandlink also.. another chao kuan ML

Die die die also $50 for HJ and claim "nobody" take $30 one.. So. I post big big here lor.

End up she didn't make $30, I saved $50.

Ownself PCC in the shower more shoik. The $50 i saved, can eat dunno how many sirloin/ribeyes lor.


Last time went to that spa all are old aunties.. got a thai.. but maybe her character is the shy2 type.. so never insist on 50..

but actually nowadays hard to find sub-50 price.. maybe economy worsening may change their mind..

[ceeko]

Last time went to that spa all are old aunties.. got a thai.. but maybe her character is the shy2 type.. so never insist on 50..

but actually nowadays hard to find sub-50 price.. maybe economy worsening may change their mind..

Only stupid massage ladies will deny a $20 or $30 wank

If they insist on $50. I fuck off...... ownself wank save money after they've brought blood into my kukujiao.

The teasing is actually the more shoik part to be honest.

Paying $50 for a handjob is just idiotic.

[zeio]

What's the avg prices for bbbj?

Dun wanna be carrot head xd better to know market prices den to go down and kena brainwash by ml...

[blibs]

That's why many bros still prefer KTV. $50 tips for a SYT lady. Although total time really spent is 1 hr out of a 3-4 hrs block, you get to tnn, she rides on you. Grope here and there. If you arouse easily, the riding will even make you cum. Talk about value haha

[Ant0816]

quite silly of the ML, lol...
die die wanna earn extra $38 for the boss, lose out on the $50 for herself :o

Not that they are silly, the boss demands a cut for the action. If the girl is caught doing it without charging 38, she get's fined or sacked.

Typically such shops are own by PRC and these bosses have a wechat group sharing their devious methods of exploiting the customers and the girls.

[siaoded]

Have been a saint for the past 6 months due to COVID.

Went to a spa in jurong west just now. Walk in and choose the 60min $50 massage like I used to. Then the receptionist ask me something about oil and top up $38 to make it $88. I was like wtf? and told her no, just normal 60 min will do.

A SYT came to my room and mid way thru the massage, I was expecting the GQ (due to the way she massage). To my surprise, she told me in order for her to do HJ, I HAVE TO TOP UP additional $38 to make it $88 and then still need to give her tip for $50 for HJ. so total damage will be $138. I was like siao ah! not worth man. I told her I dun want and she keep psycho saying i’m her first customer today blah blah, i rejected her again and she just proceed to massage my head and face till time is up.

Not going to return again.

sounds like Orchid spa tho. had that experience when i was there.