Trace Together token for Safe Entry

[Sinfulthrills]

Hello bros! Any recommendations for MP that can SafeEntry using the TT token. Don't want to use the app because can see history 😅 West area is preferred but if LL need to go the other side of SG also can 😂

[dc7176]

most cat 1 shop have. if they have no physical scanner, they can use HP to scan.

[hannibald]

Natureland uses token for entry.

[bignehneh]

Natureland uses token for entry.

Nature land got no special la. Chantel Spa?

[Sinfulthrills]

most cat 1 shop have. if they have no physical scanner, they can use HP to scan.


Yeah bro, I think most shops use HP to scan. But if use HP to scan, can see the history in the TT app. With the token, won't be able to see history.

[Sinfulthrills]

Book those FL ones....JW area have alot

Got some bad exp with FL ones, sometimes good sometimes bad. If really no choice will go for FL ofc!

[aris]

Yeah bro, I think most shops use HP to scan. But if use HP to scan, can see the history in the TT app. With the token, won't be able to see history.

you use token. the shop use hp. there is a app for business to make hp into a scanner.

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Ewellness bugis have the physical scanner also.

[dc7176]

you use token. the shop use hp. there is a app for business to make hp into a scanner.

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Ewellness bugis have the physical scanner also.

correct! like i say most Cat 1 MP have both scanner n HP to scan ur Token.

[lovetocum]

Is it possible to delete entry selectively for trace together app after visit to spa? Safer entry can do that.

[r.fowler]

Is it possible to delete entry selectively for trace together app after visit to spa? Safer entry can do that.

No, you can only uninstall the whole app and reinstall again. Thereafter all your past history will not be shown in app anymore. Tried and it works.

Abit hassle especially if you enrol for family, gonna do all over again.

[afterburn]

Some shops, prominent ones too, not those owo or hidden types, still don't insist that customers scan QR or use TT. No request and no checks at all.

I ask the ML how they can get away with this requirement, and she told me i should scan, lol. Added that they capture customer particulars (this one uses tablet and recorded electronically) so can be traced if necessary.

I thought it is BS but what do i care, no history in my TT :D

[pete_the_fish]

They ask to scan but don't check whether got scan or no scan...so sometimes just go thru motion lol

[Sinfulthrills]

you use token. the shop use hp. there is a app for business to make hp into a scanner.

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Ewellness bugis have the physical scanner also.

Ahhh I see, thanks bro!

[Sinfulthrills]

They ask to scan but don't check whether got scan or no scan...so sometimes just go thru motion lol

Is it??? Hahahahaha alright then, thanks for the tips bro, will try to just go thru the motion!

[Superspreader]

Is it possible to delete entry selectively for trace together app after visit to spa? Safer entry can do that.

No cannot, it is in the GOV database

[MacTir]

Some shops, prominent ones too, not those owo or hidden types, still don't insist that customers scan QR or use TT. No request and no checks at all.

I ask the ML how they can get away with this requirement, and she told me i should scan, lol. Added that they capture customer particulars (this one uses tablet and recorded electronically) so can be traced if necessary.

I thought it is BS but what do i care, no history in my TT :D

Yeah same here, although most shops will be more strict during this period, i'm still surprised there are some which no need to scan or anything at all (although they are very discreet)

To be honest, I also went to some food places/fast food restaurants to dabao supper at late night. Some of them probably don't have enough staff on night duty to 1 by 1 check for TT token/scan, so you can also just walk into these places like as per normal lol

[phelps]

E wellness will also ask for your physical IC or driving license to copy down your particulars.

I think some TCM also doing that beside Safe entry scan in.

[ah_jo]

Basically this is what happens.

With Tracetoegther app on your phone, just scan the phone against their terminal and done, no history whatsoever. Only scan QR code leaves history and cannot remove.

IC copy number and name is standard, wanna play then play safe, in case anything happens still can trace back. if dont wanna show ic, use singpass mobile for ur electronic IC will do.

[lovetocum]

Basically this is what happens.

With Tracetoegther app on your phone, just scan the phone against their terminal and done, no history whatsoever. Only scan QR code leaves history and cannot remove.

IC copy number and name is standard, wanna play then play safe, in case anything happens still can trace back. if dont wanna show ic, use singpass mobile for ur electronic IC will do.

Bro, so all spas hv terminals to scan? The other method I read is ask the spa recept to use hp to scan TT token, at least no history.

[afterburn]

Bro, so all spas hv terminals to scan? The other method I read is ask the spa recept to use hp to scan TT token, at least no history.

I find that most shops simply bo-chap about installing the SEGW app. Still ask me to scan the QR using the TT app. To them, as long as they have a means of meeting the requirement, then there's no need to do more. I bring the token around also cannot use. Must take out phone to scan.

It goes into the TT app history, but if you see the record, most of the time it is just some innocent-sounding <business name> + "PTE LTD". No tell-tale words like "spa" or "massage" :D

Then there are some that don't ask customer to scan anything, only to record particulars in the register book as before. These businesses are just waiting to contribute to nation-building if there is an enforcement check.

[superstiffy]

Bro, so all spas hv terminals to scan? The other method I read is ask the spa recept to use hp to scan TT token, at least no history.

Confirm got history... is u can see or cannot see only...

I find that most shops simply bo-chap about installing the SEGW app. Still ask me to scan the QR using the TT app. To them, as long as they have a means of meeting the requirement, then there's no need to do more. I bring the token around also cannot use. Must take out phone to scan.

I dun have phone app.. only use token so those place too lazy to scan my token then i just dun go or dun scan...

but i think its sibei stupid leh... if u have the token.. its always on.. still need to scan for what... u check the record simi sai all also come out liao... still need to know which place u go meh? just need to know who u close to gd enough liao mah?

[candeo_88]

The TT app keeps the history for about 25 days...So if cannot wait for the history to be refreshed, then can always go to make the list longer and longer by anyhow checking in, NTUC la, food court la, MRT station la, park la...

Some SEGW terminals are very sensitive, you can anytime accidentaly check-in by walking close to one of these terminals...Thus the chances off being notified by MOH for testing is also higher :D:D

If cannot convince, can confuse :D:D

Food for thought :D:cool:

[localchineseguy]

E wellness will also ask for your physical IC or driving license to copy down your particulars.

ic or passport number is SPF requirement, must show but can show them enough
no need to give them ic or driving license or they may take down other details such as address etc
they are not required by SPF to register phone numbers, address etc
phone numbers are for spa's own use, can dont give, always tell them no phone
or enter 88888888

TT is for MOH

[candeo_88]

Go read up...

Massage Establishment Rules 2018 (S96/2018)

A licensee of a massage establishment must require a client to furnish his or her NRIC number or the particulars of his or her passport travel document before providing any massage services. The licensee must enter the client's information in a register and keep the register for at least a year.

Access the full Rules here.

Food for thought...:D:cool:

ic or passport number is SPF requirement, must show but can show them enough
no need to give them ic or driving license or they may take down other details such as address etc
they are not required by SPF to register phone numbers, address etc
phone numbers are for spa's own use, can dont give, always tell them no phone
or enter 88888888

TT is for MOH

[localchineseguy]

here already discussed
https://samsimply.rocks/showpost.php?p=20595909&postcount=14

its furnish NRIC number, not NRIC.
not retain NRIC
not produce NRIC
not give NRIC



u differ?




Go read up...

Massage Establishment Rules 2018 (S96/2018)

A licensee of a massage establishment must require a client to furnish his or her NRIC number or the particulars of his or her passport travel document before providing any massage services. The licensee must enter the client's information in a register and keep the register for at least a year.

Access the full Rules here.

Food for thought...:D:cool:

[candeo_88]

Well, as long as the NRIC number is "provided" and "recorded" by the establishment, the requirement is met. The onus is on the establishment to collect the customers NRIC as required by the Act.

For any avoidance of doubt, I always refer to the relevant statutes..Once the requirements are known, we know what to provide, and the manner that is be provided despite what the establishment/receptionist says/requests :D:D

here already discussed
https://samsimply.rocks/showpost.php?p=20595909&postcount=14

its furnish NRIC number, not NRIC.
not retain NRIC
not produce NRIC
not give NRIC



u differ?

[localchineseguy]

"collect the customers NRIC as required by the Act."

The act requires to collect the NRIC (card) meh?
thot only to furnish the NRIC number, not NRIC card?

Massage Establishment Rules 2018 (S96/2018)

A licensee of a massage establishment must require a client to furnish his or her NRIC number

Well, as long as the NRIC number is "provided" and "recorded" by the establishment, the requirement is met. The onus is on the establishment to collect the customers NRIC as required by the Act.

For any avoidance of doubt, I always refer to the relevant statutes..Once the requirements are known, we know what to provide, and the manner that is be provided despite what the establishment/receptionist says/requests :D:D

[candeo_88]

Gosh, you are really going into semantics...it was never mentioned about collecting or holding onto the "physical NRIC plastic card" :D:D

Legalistic English is always drafted differently from business English or daily use English...That's why we need to pay lawyers a whole chunk of money :D:D

Food for thought :D:cool:

"collect the customers NRIC as required by the Act."

The act requires to collect the NRIC meh?
thot only to furnish the NRIC number, not NRIC card?

[superstiffy]

I explain in kopi tiam standard ok...

our laws are roti prata one... yes u no need to give ic just need to give ic number but when u anyhow give number and spa tio check and see how come wrong, spa will tio also because they never make sure is correct info... so some place kiasi ask for ic to copy...

when i encounter like this.. i will say i never bring ic... then they have 2 choice.. ask me to come again when i bring ic or ask me to write properly and next time rem to bring ic... u think which one they alwasy choose? :p

[Maro]

I explain in kopi tiam standard ok...

our laws are roti prata one... yes u no need to give ic just need to give ic number but when u anyhow give number and spa tio check and see how come wrong, spa will tio also because they never make sure is correct info... so some place kiasi ask for ic to copy...

when i encounter like this.. i will say i never bring ic... then they have 2 choice.. ask me to come again when i bring ic or ask me to write properly and next time rem to bring ic... u think which one they alwasy choose? :p
i used to chut tat pattern
now they ask for ur digital ic