KTV turn food outlet swab test

[Smallheadrules]

Here we go again.....hope this won't escalate to MP scene

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/covid-19-moh-probing-infection-among-vietnamese-social-hostesses-swab-tests-workers-3-entertainment-outlets

[thedevil666]

Good luck to all the cheongster bros

[Zeith]

Hopefully don't sabo the rest and make community case to be up again and back to lock down. Should this happen, those deserve to be hang.

[Smallheadrules]

Not sure if some of the viet hostress cross to MP to do part time or vise versa......

[goldie9660]

Worst still if these Viets allow tabao, they will form more unlink cases. Also, those bros got wife de now sure scare the shit out of their ass liao.

[unsung80]

Expect numbers to go up in coming weeks, stay safe, dun cheong won't die ok. Not yet take vaccine faster go take. :rolleyes:

[messiisblackcat]

they never seem to end, but they also no choice, got demand will have supply and everyone hungry now for business

[jacky43]

This are illegal joints. Official RLD shuts down from CB to now. Vietnam girls! I all really guess this 2 mths ago where taskforce mention. VN variants.

Who are this VN girls? My guess. The biggest group are woman married into this red dot. I am sorry 4the family. I blame the born local man. He must stop her from operating this type of biz. It is man jobs to provide for the family. Since the beginning of time.

[vkytan]

Expect numbers to go up in coming weeks, stay safe, dun cheong won't die ok. Not yet take vaccine faster go take. :rolleyes:

Dun cheong won't die, take vaccine die faster :D

[xchange]

Not sure if some of the viet hostress cross to MP to do part time or vise versa......

Many do switch and its best to avoid Dunlop Street, Perak Road, Jalan Besar triangle and Joo Chiat for the time being.
Its now 41 cases-exploding


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/ktv-cluster-covid-19-41-new-covid-cases-situation-troubling-15218646

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[bignehneh]

Wow! Scary. These ktv quite likely go room 1 suck boobs, then go into other room let ppl suck boobs again. Then painting, bbbj all around the whole ktv

[r.fowler]

I wonder if the lady doctor know what's going on inside these KTV during interview with CNA. :D I think she think maybe the KTV is same teoheng. 5555

everybody knows la.. but cannot openly mention on state media, else it will be a slap on the govt.

my bet is the media will downplay this, and downgrade these hostess as a patron.

[snooker]

This are illegal joints. Official RLD shuts down from CB to now. Vietnam girls! I all really guess this 2 mths ago where taskforce mention. VN variants.

Who are this VN girls? My guess. The biggest group are woman married into this red dot. I am sorry 4the family. I blame the born local man. He must stop her from operating this type of biz. It is man jobs to provide for the family. Since the beginning of time.

These "wives" are only by name, some do not even stay with their "husband"
It's a fake marriage where these Vietnamese girls pay their "husband" monthly/weekly fee/sexual services

[malaysiapig]

hard to trace sure because if they don't have the token they sure not turn on their phone bluetooth. :rolleyes: Even if they have token they also may not actively carry it. Next time maybe they make new law say whoever working "close contact sectors" and found not carrying the token or not turn on the bluetooth during inspection get orh gong plus the business entity also get orh gong x per head no carrying TT token at work place. :D

CB 2021 coming soon ....

Be prepared to sings marikita at home on NDP2021 :D

[georgie1994]

now many places become like that already

[georgie1994]

CB 2021 coming soon ....

Be prepared to sings marikita at home on NDP2021 :D

so scare now become so serious ady

[absoluticeberg]

So far only 12 for KTV. Meaning 4 KTV girls spread to 8 already.

Jumped to 41 already for this cluster.

[unsung80]

Jumped to 41 already for this cluster.

"KTV lounge cluster grows to 53 infections"

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-cases-singapore-local-unlinked-jul-14-ktv-cluster-15217120

"The police will take action against lounges and hostesses who may have breached safe management measures" Better shut it down forever, better be safe than sorry.

Imagine u cheong ktv, go back home kiss ur wife and kids..

[r.fowler]

Why confidentality unless the minister knows there are more than meet the eyes? Isnt it contradicting when they know all along these are just a bistro in disguise? Why it is just a bistro, why must offer such confidentality swab test unless govt already knows all along something is going on behind the doors.

[Devil320]

Govt knows what they used to operate as from the police raids etc. But the owners could easily say and show they re model like teo Heng, let ppl come and eat and work only. Then after few weeks of checks by sda or police they go back to offering customers some hostesses to come and play game with them etc. It’s a cat and mouse game. Govt also can’t shut them down unless catch them in the act

[TheIdesOfMarch]

Why confidentality unless the minister knows there are more than meet the eyes? Isnt it contradicting when they know all along these are just a bistro in disguise? Why it is just a bistro, why must offer such confidentality swab test unless govt already knows all along something is going on behind the doors.

Politically inconvenient for them to admit they know what's actually happening behind closed doors.

It would make them look horrible because they closed down the common citizenry's access to sexual vice at Geylang down at the beginning of the pandemic because of public health reasons, but then barely a few months after CB ended last year KTVs for rich Roberts could reopen as barely-disguised "bistros" and all the usual hostess hanky panky still available. And often for even higher prices too.

[inlandtaipan]

This cluster has the chance to beat the record

[thedevil666]

i don't think it is about hiding the fact that they allow these establishments to apply and reoperate with a F&B outlet. afterall, ktv, bars, clubs (legit ones like zouk) are all categorised under same category. to allow zouk to change business model and not allow ktv to is inconsistent to any policies they put out there.

as for confidentiality, since when did any personal info got out from people who went swab or is tested positive. all are given a unique case number. to announce it will be confidential, i think is to keep the family fabric together. don't forget, our govt alws like to kaypoh our family matters. the last thing they want is to see many families break up bcos of this, and feminist or pro-family group like AWARE start asking question.

[bimpom]

390882Bros someone I know tested positive and had visited DOME 3 ELITES stable. Go get a test kit for yourself if you patronised elites stable. Stay low and take care :p

[singleman]

Mr. Ong face very serious when reporter asked him some questions during press time. :D

of course have to be serious. this is a no fun matter. the number of infected cases have been reducing.. to single digit. then "suddenly" pop up this potentially could-be huge cluster.

garment has said those ktv operator n the hostess will be delta with by the police. the customers will be delta with by MOH. so the garment will handle this very seriously.

just hope dun spread to those innocent people like the family members (parents, wife, kids) and friends of those infected person.

[Banvan]

My personal advise would be to stop all cheonging activities. Obviously for the past 2 weeks Cheongster highly kana covid from KTV and most will go cheong massage, FL done 1,2,3,local putting everyone at risk. Even normal IPL service or JG services from this forum are all considered high risk…

The sooner we control this covid, the safer and faster everyone can go back to cheonging safer. We all must play our part. Just my 2 cents.

Cheers

[unsung80]

Mr. Ong face very serious when reporter asked him some questions during press time. :D

If not u expect him to joke around. :p

[unsung80]

Those who cannot tahan just settle your need at home.

[ajlover]

This one big shit, just curious how come no one is ever held responsible for all the outbreaks, both locally and imported cases...

[xchange]

This one big shit, just curious how come no one is ever held responsible for all the outbreaks, both locally and imported cases...

No one held accountable that is why it happens again and again.
No matter what happens , they just blame it on the people

[clean&neat]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/toa-payoh-hawker-centre-closed-for-deep-cleaning-after-stall-assistant-who

SAVED by the satay guy. Now all the husbands can tell their wives they went to eat satay instead of KTV. Ha ha.

[BushTracker]

If not u expect him to joke around. :p

Hahaha like the Malaysian guy after train clash.. they just lightly kiss only. BOOM loss his job!!

[wattonhenry]

This one big shit, just curious how come no one is ever held responsible for all the outbreaks, both locally and imported cases...

As usual, no blame culture please. Honest mistake. Let’s move on.

[Colin80]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/toa-payoh-hawker-centre-closed-for-deep-cleaning-after-stall-assistant-who

SAVED by the satay guy. Now all the husbands can tell their wives they went to eat satay instead of KTV. Ha ha.

This satay guy should be given National Day award.

[EASADOA21]

This satay guy should be given National Day award.

Well, at least now got "more" pple stepping out to do swab test after hearing this news.

[Hotstuff82]

damm jialiat now, think have to lay low for the time and DIY at home if bth, told my regular WLs that i wont be dropping by for the time being, good thing is they also understand and know whats going on cause its news trending now.

[katong]

Haizz quite unfair right? They ask the rest to test and identity be confidential but that satay guy now famous public character. :rolleyes:

They got to be transparent. Because it involves the closure of a market.. livelihood affected. How to hide?

[sex crusader]

Sibei Suay siao ....whole SG ppl know you are a cheong ka liao!:D Worst is those got wife one...... lawyer must be smiling!:D

[ajlover]

As usual, no blame culture please. Honest mistake. Let’s move on.

You serious bo?? Honest mistake?? Again and again, cock eye also can see where the cases are coming from. It is becoming a lack of accountability and responsibility

[TheIdesOfMarch]

First three KTV/bistro licenses tio pok already.

And they are not even linked to the current outbreak too.

Just for starters. Definitely more to come.

https://snipboard.io/RC54FY.jpg

[r.fowler]

Haizz quite unfair right? They ask the rest to test and identity be confidential but that satay guy now famous public character. :rolleyes:

A bait to ask all guys come out test. Why explicitly said sell satay when last time bukit merah view hawker case never say sell this sell that??

Food for thought.

[AlanKennedy]

I find it ridiculous that they have to shut down the entire hawker centre just because of one satay seller.

What if the satay seller also take the MRT north-south line? Are they going to shut down the entire red line too?

All these are just not making any sense. Just take a look at the numbers, and you'll wonder why they are taking such elaborate measures over a "virus" that has a survival rate of 99.999% in Spore.

Here's even more food for thought.

They'll check the trace together and say no, the satay seller never take MRT at all, die die also never gonna shut down MRT line :D

[snooker]

They'll check the trace together and say no, the satay seller never take MRT at all, die die also never gonna shut down MRT line :D

Now we have someone that has eyes open n see the real intention.

Media has been misleading everyone from the start to instill fear and brainwashed that once u get Covid, death will follow.

The truth is, in Singapore, for a young healthy adult, u are more likely to get severe reaction from vaccine than to die from Covid.

[WongHinKong]

I find it ridiculous that they have to shut down the entire hawker centre just because of one satay seller.

What if the satay seller also take the MRT north-south line? Are they going to shut down the entire red line too?

All these are just not making any sense. Just take a look at the numbers, and you'll wonder why they are taking such elaborate measures over a "virus" that has a survival rate of 99.999% in Spore.

Here's even more food for thought.

SG Gov always have a safety phase to cover.
All sg operated buses and MRT equipped with the best effective filter system that able to filter 99.999% bacteria that could include the Covid 19 virus.

but SG gov cant prevent the can of worms from opening up as the infected KTV girls could travel one KTV to another KTV ,or to hotel via TAXIs / Grabs.

These are loop holes that virus may have spreaded.

[r.fowler]

Truth be told, I think everyone know la. i think why govt is more gancheong now is because these married tiko peh who visited bistros are likely to have kids and eldery at home. these are the vulnerable bunch. imagine they spread to their young kids who are too young to get vaccine, and now heng heng the school just reopened.

On a different note, strangely, our govt has decided to remove the word, satay seller after leaking for a few hours..

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/toa-payoh-hawker-centre-closes-for-disinfection-after-worker-15225904

Now we have someone that has eyes open n see the real intention.

Media has been misleading everyone from the start to instill fear and brainwashed that once u get Covid, death will follow.

The truth is, in Singapore, for a young healthy adult, u are more likely to get severe reaction from vaccine than to die from Covid.

[SBMEDSUP]

Truth be told, I think everyone know la. i think why govt is more gancheong now is because these married tiko peh who visited bistros are likely to have kids and eldery at home. these are the vulnerable bunch. imagine they spread to their young kids who are too young to get vaccine, and now heng heng the school just reopened.

On a different note, strangely, our govt has decided to remove the word, satay seller after leaking for a few hours..

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/toa-payoh-hawker-centre-closes-for-disinfection-after-worker-15225904

Agreed n infection can be high.

[Smallheadrules]

There were many cases whereby a person kena QO but MOH just said come into close contact with positive and no further detail provided. So those bros or anyone else if now kena QO doesn't mean u visited KTV, it could be someone u work with or suey suey take mrt sit beside u travelling from one end to the other end (more than 30mins)

Also, come to think of it we been seeing many SDa at hawker center , shopping malls, market , stand alone f&b outlet or anywhere else....but how come SDA never check all this KTV turn F&b outlet ? Seriously they don't know meh what's happening behind the scene? I'm sure police or anyone work in gov sector also got cheong what....must know one mah....why in first place never to thier work?

[loneyheart]

Now it's everywhere liao
Like the gov said even u stay home virus will get u :(

[Xgenre]

Another food for thought. Before our country roll out the vaccination program, our local cases are in the ones and twos (Some days zero). But after we start the vaccination program, then our local cases begin to rise.

Is there any coincidence? What is really happening to the people who got the jabs (Apart from those sickening side effects)?

Your guess is as good as mine.

I guess you don't like to read facts. Is my guess as good as yours? This is more becoming a pandemic for the unvaccinated.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ktv-covid-19-cluster-only-6-first-88-cases-fully-vaccinated-include-frequent-patrons-aged

[candeo_88]

Unvaccinated folks = natural target for the smarty pants virus to attack...
Half or fully vaccinated folks = thinks that the vaccine is a panacea and stronger than superman and therefore start to go back to normal lifestyle...

Either way, the virus has the ability to infect and reinfect and not to mention mutate too...:D:cool:

I guess you don't like to read facts. Is my guess as good as yours? This is more becoming a pandemic for the unvaccinated.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ktv-covid-19-cluster-only-6-first-88-cases-fully-vaccinated-include-frequent-patrons-aged

[Xgenre]

Either way, the virus has the ability to infect and reinfect and not to mention mutate too...:D:cool:

Ya that is true. Let's all try to stay safe. I notice some vaccinated hawkers wear their masks around their necks. No safe distance ambassador advise them ley.

[candeo_88]

Already 1.5 years wearing masks and already plenty of educational notices to advise the correct way of wearing masks...If the person is stubbornm there is nothing one can do to change his/her mind, except a hefty fine and/or nasi lemak for 2-3 weeks...

Remember during the haze period, ppl guai guai wear masks cos the particles and dusts makes it unhealthy to breathe in...but now, the air is still air, clear and fresh, except got added the virus ingredient :D:cool:

Personally I am wearing the KN95 masks which is 5 or 6 ply. Damn hard to breathe sometimes but for my own sake and the sake of ppl around me, just bear with it...:D:cool:

Actually some of my SDA friends already have "advisory and compliance fatique"...they say the minute they turn their back away, those clowns will revert back to status quo. So what's the point of asking ppl to be safe for that 10 seconds when they are unsafe for 30-60 minutes?

In the end, it is just a big big wayang...:D:cool:

Ya that is true. Let's all try to stay safe. I notice some vaccinated hawkers wear their masks around their necks. No safe distance ambassador advise them ley.

[candeo_88]

Yup, we are all mature adults having a candid conversation on a warm Sunday afternoon locked at home :D:D:cool::cool:

Thanks bro Candeo for your candid input :D

We all agree to disagree. And we can't possibly get all the facts right.

But I do know that back in the US, the Pfizer and other vaccines are not even fully approved by their so-called FDA. Fact check here (https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-12-12/why-fda-didnt-approve-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-eua), here (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/18/covid-vaccines-what-full-fda-approval-means-for-you.html) and here (https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210709/as-delta-surges-fda-pressured-to-fully-approve-covid-vaccines).

On another note, this dude gives one of the best explanation on the KTV cluster "butterfly" effect:
https://www.tiktok.com/@rishibudhrani/video/6985887693314002177?sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=6986133167049770498&is_from_webapp=v1&is_copy_url=0

[xchange]

Ya that is true. Let's all try to stay safe. I notice some vaccinated hawkers wear their masks around their necks. No safe distance ambassador advise them ley.

Bro, you hit the nail right on the head- meaning the main problem is LACK OF ENFORCERMENT ,starting from Changi (allowing south asians to come in), Bukit Merah (hawkers not wearing mask) and now KTV (allowing butterfly to fly in and float around).
Hawkers are still frequently wearing mask below nose and even chin but SDA nowhere to be seen (mostly in aircond malls chatting to each other)-all one big WAYANG

[candeo_88]

He only got the first jab nia..which is as good as little or no protection...

Extract:
On Friday, Chilean authorities released the results of a study of 10.5 million people, showing the vaccine was 16% effective against infection after one dose and 67% effective after a second dose.

Source:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/first-dose-of-chinese-covid-19-vaccine-offers-little-protection-chile-learns-11618775502

Whole world now fighting to buy Pfizer and Moderna. Even China also acknowledge their vaccine CMI already going to use their Fosun - Comirnaty(BioNTech) aka Pfizer as booster.

Our government spent so much money to secure the vaccines giving FREE and some covidiots simply don't know what they thinking.

This guy is duno suay or what? Claimed never go KTV and his garden(bistro) no have butterflies(hostesses) but kana the KTV QO and tested positive.

Now ownself make ownself famous become Singapore first Sinovac infected.

[hokkaidu]

Bro, you hit the nail right on the head- meaning the main problem is LACK OF ENFORCERMENT ,starting from Changi (allowing south asians to come in), Bukit Merah (hawkers not wearing mask) and now KTV (allowing butterfly to fly in and float around).
Hawkers are still frequently wearing mask below nose and even chin but SDA nowhere to be seen (mostly in aircond malls chatting to each other)-all one big WAYANG

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee :D

[testoste]

Bro, you hit the nail right on the head- meaning the main problem is LACK OF ENFORCERMENT ,starting from Changi (allowing south asians to come in), Bukit Merah (hawkers not wearing mask) and now KTV (allowing butterfly to fly in and float around).
Hawkers are still frequently wearing mask below nose and even chin but SDA nowhere to be seen (mostly in aircond malls chatting to each other)-all one big WAYANG

It is sad that many adult pple still not mature enuf to think of bigger picture, and still need baby sitting. There is a limit to how much enforcement can be done. How many officers do we need to deploy to cover every corner of the isle and imagine the cost that we tax payers have to bear.

We pple also need to play our parts.

[candeo_88]

Actually if I'm faced with a choice of only China vaccines, I'd rather take Sinopharm than Sinovac cos least on face value, the former's efficacy numbers are much higher than the latters...:D:cool:

Thats why i say covidiot. :p All kana tricked by china vaccine way of calculation.

Which is why SG don't want to approve Sinovac easily without getting the missing data because honestly speaking its about Singaporeans lives. Its never about politics here.

[faceblock]

Today number. :)

What is the number for them to initiate lockdown?

[rainforestkk]

Nowadays safest is PCC at home. Lol

[r.fowler]

ICU bed have 1k. :)

it seems like this is the direction of the govt, ie to measure via the bed load in ICU. i don't blame them since they die die want to ease the 'heightened alert' before NDP.

so far only 1 /1000 ICU bed occupied. life still goes on.

[candeo_88]

And govt ever said that we need to co-exist with the damn bugger :D:D

Do continue to stock up masks :D:cool:

it seems like this is the direction of the govt, ie to measure via the bed load in ICU. i don't blame them since they die die want to ease the 'heightened alert' before NDP.

so far only 1 /1000 ICU bed occupied. life still goes on.

[xxFTOxx]

Honestly speaking. :)

This wuhan virus aka covid19 as of today the known numbers as below.

Coronavirus Cases: 191,322,425

Deaths: 4,108,240

Recovered: 174,256,543

World population 2020: 7,794,798,739

If calculation is correct by ah goo. Using the numbers ignoring whatever factors or conditions. 0.05% of the world population died. 2.45% infected.

If apply that % to Sg about 3000+- Singaporean will die and more than 147000 will get infected as known cases.

So looking from 6m pp perspective thats not a lot. :p But if look at people around you its a gamble because we don't know who will be that suay 3k to die who will be the >150k infected and suffer symptoms.

I wonder how much CPF these above 70s have in total and how many own HDB fully paid.

Meaning cpf board will incur ‘huge losses’ if more ppl die cuz they got to do huge payouts especially if hdb still have balance left.

[omnia]

Wonder what is the avg yearly flu death rate and flu infection rate in Singapore?

Then compare the abv with model rate calculations viz Covid-19...also taking into consideration fully vaccinated figures...


Honestly speaking. :)

This wuhan virus aka covid19 as of today the known numbers as below.

Coronavirus Cases: 191,322,425

Deaths: 4,108,240

Recovered: 174,256,543

World population 2020: 7,794,798,739

If calculation is correct by ah goo. Using the numbers ignoring whatever factors or conditions. 0.05% of the world population died. 2.45% infected.

If apply that % to Sg about 3000+- Singaporean will die and more than 147000 will get infected as known cases.

So looking from 6m pp perspective thats not a lot. :p But if look at people around you its a gamble because we don't know who will be that suay 3k to die who will be the >150k infected and suffer symptoms.

I wonder how much CPF these above 70s have in total and how many own HDB fully paid.

[singleman]

i am curious if let say an infected WL blow u, but u r wearing mask during the whole deal, will u get infected? if let say after the blow, she immediately wear back mask, both go wash up.

[fallen11]

i am curious if let say an infected WL blow u, but u r wearing mask during the whole deal, will u get infected? if let say after the blow, she immediately wear back mask, both go wash up.

by definition of "airborne", doesnt sound like you can get infected via BJ.
But make sure you wash and disinfect your cock properly after the deed. Otherwise the next one to BJ for you can still get infected! :D
So far also havent heard any case where people got infected in swimming pools.

[singleman]

quite sometime ago, i went for a deal. both me n the WL wear mask during the whole period in the room. initially try the missionary style.. after try a while decide to switch to doggly style. missionary style we can facing each other n tend to come face to face near, which though we r wearing mask but there still could be chance of "infected". so thought switch to doggly style which we both not facing each other directly n maybe will have lesser chance of "infected". after the deal n go back then got a bit "scare" wondering will kena or not haha. however till now i am still healthy haha

now want to go for deal oso scare as the cases keep rising.. the worst is you won't know u r doing with an infected person or not, or we could be the one passing the virus to the WL bcos both are asymptomatic.

[candeo_88]

Airborne transmission is:

Quote:
defined as the spread of an infectious agent caused by the dissemination of droplet nuclei (aerosols) that remain infectious when suspended in air over long distances and time.

Source:
https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions

So by definition, if the air is clear of virus (covid or flu) and persons in the room are clear of virus, then occasional mask off is "safe".

BUT

We don't know whether previous customers are covid positive, layout of such places with poor ventilations, asymtomatic positive carriers...Anytime mask off is just a chance one is taking...Even with mask on but worn wrongly or incorrectly, it's as good as not wearing at all

:D:cool:

[thundercobra]

Best also wear a face shield/goggles and surgical gloves :D Why you think hospital do that? :)

Some of my friends they started to buy and wear those old fashion large spectacles/sunglass because they work at places a lot people. :p Wear protective goggles a bit weird so they act fashionable.

Wear those 'spacesuit' is the safest haha :D

[chutzpah]

Thanks for sharing.

[AudeSMLJPique]

Some studies say those wear glasses have lesser chance of getting infected by wuhan virus. :D

But now no more wuhan virus, many A to Z variant instead :D