Sex Addiction? Vicious Cycle?

[piichai]

Due to this Covid, your life is some wat stagnated because of the lock down and many restrictions.
You have more time now and you remain single or unhappily married.
Other than the usual family chores, there are no new activities that distract you.

All you can think of is which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week.
It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.
Life is just spending aimlessly and emptiness after emptiness

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive.
You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying. When she Zao geng, you turned your head away.
Going to Spa is once a blue moon thing and the urge i gone.
You dont even need sex at this stage of life with her

Then you looked back and Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release.
Even going to MBS top resturant at the sky park is cheaper than your SPA session
So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while)
However, after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums.
(That explains why some return) The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

[Samto]

Upped you for sharing

[TheTrader2359]

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive. You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying
Going to Spa is once a while to get over the sexual needs which is not available at this stage with her. Sex is not even on your mind.

Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release. So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while) Then after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums. (That explains why some return)
The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

Pretty sure many people here been through this! If you keep your mind busy you will not think of commercial sex.

[Shinya123]

Due to the Covid, your life is someone stagnated because of the lock down and many restrictions.
You have more time now and you remain single or unhappily married. Other than the usual family chores, there are no new activities that distract you.

Once you are free, you will check which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week. It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive. You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying
Going to Spa is once a while to get over the sexual needs which is not available at this stage with her. Sex is not even on your mind.

Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release. So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while) Then after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums. (That explains why some return)
The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

Have engaged in plenty of sports and exercise. Now only Cheong once a month as against weekly in the past

[zoom200]

Frequent release is healthy too though - I find when I don’t release at least 3-4 times a week I feel more tired

[Shinya123]

Today Chinese valentine day. May be go and Cheong later. Lol

[Adlih]

Due to the Covid, your life is someone stagnated because of the lock down and many restrictions.
You have more time now and you remain single or unhappily married. Other than the usual family chores, there are no new activities that distract you.

Once you are free, you will check which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week. It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive. You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying
Going to Spa is once a while to get over the sexual needs which is not available at this stage with her. Sex is not even on your mind.

Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release. So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while) Then after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums. (That explains why some return)
The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

Yes indeed... Any addiction is destructive.. Health and Wealth are the two things in life men cannot neglect and have to be managed vert carefully... Once anyone neglects it, it has very adverse consequences which will take a long time to recover.. Some people don't even recover from it...

[bignehneh]

Actually if you cheong for 20-30 years and spending $2000 a month, don’t be surprised how much you spent and how much potentially you lost in terms of compounding.

Let’s say you start at age of 25 spending $1000 per month and today you are 45. The amount can be invested into a fund that gives u 10% returns. You would have lost $687,000 in your cheong journey. Lol! I have always been trying to stop my cheong journey but didn’t manage to until Covid19 struck! Wa! CB! I dump those money I usually spend cheonging into the stock market and I have accumulated more than $100k in just 1 year. Really fuck! Seriously, best to think using big head. 2 years can easily pay off a Tesla model 3.

Let’s say you are 35, 40, 45 or even 50 today, it is not too late to stop. The $$$ u started accumulating now can be massive. Of course once a while to release if there is really an awesome lady. Cap at 1 time a month max. Not 3 times a week. Ok bros?

[Shinya123]

Now doing it in moderation and more for the thrill than addiction. Usually once a month and maximum twice. My sporting activities keep my mind away from commercial sex.

[afterburn]

Agreed that chiong too much sometimes is like eating good food everyday, it's diminishing returns and you don't enjoy it as much as you would if you had "starved" yourself for weeks beforehand. Think about your first session after the circuit breaker :D

But it's useful to think of the spending as a budgeted amount, like, for entertainment.

Some weeks, got a few new contacts from good bros to check out, so chiong more. Can overspend on one week, then cut down on the next. As long as meets your monthly budget in total.

[thickskin33]

Actually regret chionging for ten years as it's waste of money when you see majority of ml doing rush job it's just not worth it. Stop completely for 1 year Liao deleted my wechat and contacts.

I started chionging due to a stupid reason. That time my boss ask me go Malaysia to work on my own. I never touch a girl before and also never travel overseas before so scare I die when I go overseas but yet the allurement of job promotion is too great to reject I go for my first hj at ABC market spa and was hooked. Ironically I never got the promotion I was promised but hooked to it

[Shinya123]

Do it moderately and not compulsively is still ok. Treat it as monthly entertainment expense.

[hoosdathu]

sound advice from fellow samsters ��

[blitzkriegg]

Due to the Covid, your life is someone stagnated because of the lock down and many restrictions.
You have more time now and you remain single or unhappily married. Other than the usual family chores, there are no new activities that distract you.

Once you are free, you will check which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week. It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive. You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying
Going to Spa is once a while to get over the sexual needs which is not available at this stage with her. Sex is not even on your mind.

Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release. So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while) Then after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums. (That explains why some return)
The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

Up you for sharing. Yeah, I guess its quite common.

I go to the gym and do various sports regularly so for me the exercise doesn't help much in kicking the addiction. I find that the long periods where I really don't feel an urge to find a commercial release is when I am actively chasing a girl and I think about her every day. But as I have been single for so long those times are rare.

Every now and then I think of pushing myself to kick this habit, but it is always due to financial reasons - thinking of all the additional money I would have if I don't cheong anymore. But the counter argument the devil in me says is that I'm single anyway, even if I accumulate such a massive amount of money I have no wife and kid to spend on. And the devil tells me cheonging when I'm young is better than cheonging when I'm much older even if I can more easily afford it (E.g. The commercial ladies may be more willing to kiss someone who is young and relatively okay looking as compared to a balding and 50 year old me).

But my advice to other bros is to cheong what you can afford. Don't ever get into debt or live paycheck to paycheck because of this habit. Have very high standards for yourself - cheong only when you see a very rare beautiful lady, that way you can cut down on your expenditure.

Unfortunately ever since the pandemic started our opportunities for socializing with the opposite sex - whether those we know or new people has become so difficult. So apart from CB period where it was illegal, I actually find it harder to resist during the phase 2 and 3 phases.

[Btbh]

Spend what you can afford and only spend on choing after you have paid all your bills, set aside your savings and investments for the month.

Nothing wrong about having some fun but also got to be financially responsible

[piichai]

Have engaged in plenty of sports and exercise. Now only Cheong once a month as against weekly in the past

This is exactly what have happened.

When you have something that kept you busy such as a new hobby, sports, music or a company, you do not think of cheonging. Maybe once a while

Before that, the moment we wake up, which ML to try.
It is hurting to the wallet.

[piichai]

Up you for sharing. Yeah, I guess its quite common.

I go to the gym and do various sports regularly so for me the exercise doesn't help much in kicking the addiction. I find that the long periods where I really don't feel an urge to find a commercial release is when I am actively chasing a girl and I think about her every day. But as I have been single for so long those times are rare.
Unfortunately ever since the pandemic started our opportunities for socializing with the opposite sex - whether those we know or new people has become so difficult. So apart from CB period where it was illegal, I actually find it harder to resist during the phase 2 and 3 phases.

I think many brothers may have mistaken my point except you.

I have not stopped exercising, cheong or dont cheong. In fact, Exercise doesnt get cheonging out of my head.
After work out , the adenalin gets me more horny and want to release.
Or I am so tired and need a good massage and follow by special.
Whichever it is, exercise and going to SPA left me more empty than before.
Exercise does not completely eliminate the urge.


The most effective is a new relationship. And i am not talking abt the ML, FL or WL type of commercialize relationship.
Like some of us here we buy them flowers, supper, taking her to GBB etc.
Paying her money on her off days to go hotel with her. NO NO NO

I am talking abt love and true relationship.
Enjoying each other company. This one will totally eliminate your urge.
Even when she zao geng, you also will not see
You do not have any ulterior motive to sleep with her.

The hugging and holding is purely love.
You will not get an erection if you have not released for a while.
THIS WILL TAKE YOU OFF THE SCENE. UNTIL THE RELATIONSHIP FAILS.

The feelings of money wasted is a by product of the realization.
It is not the main objective of not cheonging.

I am not talking bcos i have overcome as i know the cheonging will come back again when the love dies.

[piichai]

Actually if you cheong for 20-30 years and spending $2000 a month, don’t be surprised how much you spent and how much potentially you lost in terms of compounding.

Let’s say you start at age of 25 spending $1000 per month and today you are 45. The amount can be invested into a fund that gives u 10% returns. You would have lost $687,000 in your cheong journey. Lol! I have always been trying to stop my cheong journey but didn’t manage to until Covid19 struck! Wa! CB! I dump those money I usually spend cheonging into the stock market and I have accumulated more than $100k in just 1 year. Really fuck! Seriously, best to think using big head. 2 years can easily pay off a Tesla model 3.

Let’s say you are 35, 40, 45 or even 50 today, it is not too late to stop. The $$$ u started accumulating now can be massive. Of course once a while to release if there is really an awesome lady. Cap at 1 time a month max. Not 3 times a week. Ok bros?

I can look back at those money wasted but I never regret. For a cheongster, doing this is like a smoker want to smoke or a glutton who needs to eat.

Those climixess and orgasamn or those big neh beh that we squeezed are in exchange for the money we spend. We can make back the money but the big neh neh may not come back.

No regrets. If looked back, it is never ending and you must also remember the ecstacy we have gone through.

[Palin]

Actually, no regrets, only regret when younger no monies. Lol. The HC experience in the early 2000s…that is something even you have money now, you can’t turn back time and go enjoy.

Bros are here because by nature sibeh horny aka sex drive high…even when in relationship, you try to be faithful, you probably will still fantasize “doing it with the JAV models or whichever” that rocks your boat. When that relationship ends, suddenly the dragon release into the wild and all hell breaks loose.

So, my advice is cheong whatever you can afford, don’t overleverage, curb the number of times, be selective (have QC so you don’t fritter monies unnecessarily) and live a happy, healthy cork life…lol

[Xgenre]

Once you are free, you will check which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week. It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive. You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying
Going to Spa is once a while to get over the sexual needs which is not available at this stage with her. Sex is not even on your mind.

Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release. So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while) Then after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums. (That explains why some return)
The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

I think many here have a wrong understanding on sex after you have a gf. Whatever amount you used to pay per shot for commercial sex (say $100), you continue to pay even after you are attached. So each round with your gf, you save $100 into your piggy bank. 1 night 3 rounds, go save $300 into the piggy bank because you would have paid the FL $300 (if the cost is $100 per shot lah).

Soon, you will realise you are saving a lot of money and therefore it gives you more reason to appreciate and love your gf. Maybe the money you save can afford a simple wedding over time. Should be able to buy diamond ring at least.

Then after marriage, continue the habit. Save some money after each round of sex. If she stop having sex with you or if she grew so fat that you see already cannot stand, then you will need money for commercial sex right? The piggy bank comes in handy then right? :D

[Samto]

Lol, this is very interesting theory on this topic, that's very true and practical advice :D

I think many here have a wrong understanding on sex after you have a gf. Whatever amount you used to pay per shot for commercial sex (say $100), you continue to pay even after you are attached. So each round with your gf, you save $100 into your piggy bank. 1 night 3 rounds, go save $300 into the piggy bank because you would have paid the FL $300 (if the cost is $100 per shot lah).

Soon, you will realise you are saving a lot of money and therefore it gives you more reason to appreciate and love your gf. Maybe the money you save can afford a simple wedding over time. Should be able to buy diamond ring at least.

Then after marriage, continue the habit. Save some money after each round of sex. If she stop having sex with you or if she grew so fat that you see already cannot stand, then you will need money for commercial sex right? The piggy bank comes in handy then right? :D

[hannibald]

I am quite the opposite.
I regret not trying Trista when she was in working in SG.
I regret to fucking Chanel more regularly when she was in SG.
I regret not trying joints like Haru, Dragon HC, Balmoral HC, etc when they were open then.
I regret not cheonging more KTV when locals were commons and actions in the room were no-holds barred.

No matter how much you have accumulated now, you will not be able to go back to the days of HC and happening KTV and fucking some of the prettiest ladies you can find.

My 2 cents.

[Gump]

I am quite the opposite.
I regret not trying Trista when she was in working in SG.
I regret to fucking Chanel more regularly when she was in SG.
I regret not trying joints like Haru, Dragon HC, Balmoral HC, etc when they were open then.
I regret not cheonging more KTV when locals were commons and actions in the room were no-holds barred.

No matter how much you have accumulated now, you will not be able to go back to the days of HC and happening KTV and fucking some of the prettiest ladies you can find.

My 2 cents.


I agree with this post. I really regret not being fast hand fast cock in trying LV of the spa in marine parade. Heard she looks like the young maggie cheung. It was all because I was trying to save money as I had exceeded my budget for that week. And just nice after that week, the spa got raided and everyone was gone.

We cannot take our money to the grave, and who knows how long more can we live. If we don't spend money to enjoy life now, we may not get a chance to. As long as we spend within our means and not affect the other aspects of our lives, it is ok.

Some of us are also not born handsome enough to attract the prettiest girls on Earth, so we have to use money to get them :D

[blitzkriegg]

I think many brothers may have mistaken my point except you.

I have not stopped exercising, cheong or dont cheong. In fact, Exercise doesnt get cheonging out of my head.
After work out , the adenalin gets me more horny and want to release.
Or I am so tired and need a good massage and follow by special.
Whichever it is, exercise and going to SPA left me more empty than before.
Exercise does not completely eliminate the urge.


The most effective is a new relationship. And i am not talking abt the ML, FL or WL type of commercialize relationship.
Like some of us here we buy them flowers, supper, taking her to GBB etc.
Paying her money on her off days to go hotel with her. NO NO NO

I am talking abt love and true relationship.
Enjoying each other company. This one will totally eliminate your urge.
Even when she zao geng, you also will not see
You do not have any ulterior motive to sleep with her.

The hugging and holding is purely love.
You will not get an erection if you have not released for a while.
THIS WILL TAKE YOU OFF THE SCENE. UNTIL THE RELATIONSHIP FAILS.

The feelings of money wasted is a by product of the realization.
It is not the main objective of not cheonging.

I am not talking bcos i have overcome as i know the cheonging will come back again when the love dies.

I totally agree bro. Having a loving and serious relationship is what changes all that. Not financial pressures or lifestyle changes.

I can only hope that social, mask off events comes back soon so that we would have opportunities to meet girls and have that relationship once again.

[sexyboijj]

thanks for sharing bro.

often it's the thrill that we are looking for when we go on this adventure. the ability to get a clean joint to do something more, to get regular ML to provide something more, or to find new cai in a new joint

jerking or not became secondary but on completing the process, ejaculating, it is when we get overwhelm with a strong feeling of self guilt.

getting into a relationship, have new commitment in life helps temporary when things are going smoothly (time pass without us knowing) but then things started looking bad, some of us might return for short term relief.

on the topic of addiction, when you realised that you have been seeking immediate gratification more than delayed gratification. it might be good to seek for help (67326837) by communicating with a professional.

really agree and relate to bros here on the measure we should take like setting a budget for such expense, do not succumb to little head easily (especially if the ML is not to your liking), and to not let this addiction affect important things in life.

[bignehneh]

Actually if you cheong for 20-30 years and spending $2000 a month, don’t be surprised how much you spent and how much potentially you lost in terms of compounding.

Let’s say you start at age of 25 spending $1000 per month and today you are 45. The amount can be invested into a fund that gives u 10% returns. You would have lost $687,000 in your cheong journey. Lol! I have always been trying to stop my cheong journey but didn’t manage to until Covid19 struck! Wa! CB! I dump those money I usually spend cheonging into the stock market and I have accumulated more than $100k in just 1 year. Really fuck! Seriously, best to think using big head. 2 years can easily pay off a Tesla model 3.

Let’s say you are 35, 40, 45 or even 50 today, it is not too late to stop. The $$$ u started accumulating now can be massive. Of course once a while to release if there is really an awesome lady. Cap at 1 time a month max. Not 3 times a week. Ok bros?

Actually I feel I am dumb because I should have invested my money earlier. For instance if you have $300k in investments and each year they give dividend, you get $12,000 every year. Can cheong 120 times. Now I find I go massage and special, it is practically free. If start early, easier few hundred k to earn dividend to cheong….wooo!

Thanks to Covid19

[hannibald]

Actually I feel I am dumb because I should have invested my money earlier. For instance if you have $300k in investments and each year they give dividend, you get $12,000 every year. Can cheong 120 times. Now I find I go massage and special, it is practically free. If start early, easier few hundred k to earn dividend to cheong….wooo!

Thanks to Covid19

The problem is now you got money also no good place to cheong.

ML quality now are a far cry from days of HC and SBR, not to mention the level of service provided.

[angrygugubird]

If you cheong for the past 20-30 years. Today you think back you might have save so much money that you invest them, today how much you will have and regret

Let say you dont cheong and today you have that much money. But you see those girls enjoy being with those young guys, enjoy getting fuck by young guys. You then will regret why back then, when you are young and little bro still hard and strong, why you didnt cheong those chiobu

[GN007SG]

I only regret not being born earlier lol
Some early days were golden era

Some ppl have low sex drive while others have high sex drive
Some ppl have to eat supper while others don't

To some ppl it's a need while to others it isnt
Controlling the urge might just backfire

We just need to be spending within our means
Sometimes I want to go for syt at higher cost
Other days I just want a release so I chose a budget milf
With covid and GL shutdown, indeed pocket hurt

[newswing]

Let's just say that when u are young, u tend to be foolish.
Some people have vices like gambling or drinking, etc.
I think I might have a minor sex addiction which I think at times I don't have much control over it.
There were times where I visit a certain Thai FL almost everyweek, did all the hardcore stuff to her. If she has gone home, I will be hunting for the next one, most probably from another House.
Sometimes I wanna have so much sex that if there are dxxgs available to enhance my performance, I'll take it. It's like my satisfaction matters!
Do I treat my female colleagues with respect? Yes, I act a decent person in the office.
Of course, starting a family is the ideal one. Some of us dated a few girls but " the devil in me says fxxk it. Just cheong! When covid hits, u start to think more of your life.

Do I regret what I have done and the money I've spent? Yes and No!

In this uncertain times, u could be think positively and also negatively.

If some of u have just started cheonging, time to put a stop!
If u think u have a certain addiction, try to get help and overcome them!

[bluesky269]

Besides the physical aspect of finding ML to release and fulfill our needs, there is also an emotional element which cannot be discounted.
There are times we shared with MLs our feelings and our thoughts which we cannot share with our partner or family members, be it a secret or social stigma. Some of us are seen as the perfect husband, bf or even goody colleagues who are faithful and law abiding. By going to MLs we can unlease our inner desires and emotions that we can misbehavior and still get accepted because we paid the price for it.
The experience can be therapeutic and in a way to make us feel so good and desirable. It is like we get our self worth and booster shot.

The flip side is we may not be able to pull ourselves out of it. There is a risk of getting addicted and worse still get KC with the ML. The amount of money spent can be excessive and over your means as what many bros have warned.

At the end of the day, we need to strike a balance and realise this is a just temporary relief. We need to get back to REALITY and accept that we cannot have everything according to our desires, whether we like it or not.

[urger]

Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind.

For stopping to visit them, stop funding them to their lifestyle, save the money and invest prudently. For every single cent, dollar that could securely earn me at least a 4% per annum would compoundently earns me tons of returns and in turn I would be the one showing-off on social media of my lifestyle.

It becomes a habit whenever my biological urge starts, I would look at my very positive investment account and give a good pat on myself for making the right choice. Spending a few hundred dollars to ease the instant male testosterone by these women are just not worth it.

For any average of $300-500/month that I saved and invested for the past 10years with an average of 12%......bros u can do your own calculations on how much I have accumulated.

That's IMO. No offence to any bros here.

[washing]

When young in poly or in the army. You earn so little how to cheong

until you old enough have money to cheong , then you got sick, cannot cheong


But I a little regret don't know how to cheong when young.

[Ray06]

Getting sex addicted is bad.
Not only spending a lot of hard earn money but also put health at risk.
I have lower income colleague who borrow money in order to join others to cheong...

Spend within your own means and monitor your health condition as well.

Moderate fun is acceptable.

Of course for those who can do away with all these ML, FL etc would be great.:)

[angrygugubird]

No choice unless you are born rich as a guy in today's world then you are hoseh. Otherwise you're f up

Nowadays especially in advance country women keep talks about gender equality.
They emphasize must earn the same as guy. No discrimination
But during a date, guy has to pay
For gifts, guy has to pay
For fuck, guy has to pay

If you earn lesser, girls look down on you

Not saying all are the same case but majority of the cases

Harsh but truth

[siamkia49]

Regardless you are rich and handsome or just an average joe, we all know that over indulging in commercial sex is a bad obsession that is not healthy for the mind and body.
It can destroy marriage, break your bank, hurt your health mentally / physically.

Even if you are attached with a perfect girl, at times you still want to go for it for the sake of the thrill of doing something forbidden and getting away with it. but as you become more daring u take bigger risk and that's where if you get caught then your marriage/bgr is over... no girl will accept her other half to eat outside.

If you are single, maybe less complicated but other than making you poorer, it may also cause you to feel low self esteem.

We ALL know that nothing good but all the bad consequences that comes with it... and the sad thing is each time we are still digging deeper and deeper into our own grave.

[Aiuro]

I don't think it's spending unwisely, if you have earn, you have the right to spend. You are not spending someone's else money for your own lifestyle.

Massage is therapeutic, massage is not just massage, it helps to relax, takes away part of stress and fix your muscle issues should you have one. So it's a good way to help fight metal issues as well.

I always take massage as a healing way.

Yes, there are also many ways to destress. I met a guy who spent $7,000 on a brompton during this pandemic, he say, sometimes it's not about spending lots of money is important, it is letting your mind do something you like to do is important. That money spent is like going for a treatment where only the person himself/herself only know what their brain likes to do.

So if you enjoy massage very much, go ahead with your hobby.

[piichai]

I totally agree bro. Having a loving and serious relationship is what changes all that. Not financial pressures or lifestyle changes.

I can only hope that social, mask off events comes back soon so that we would have opportunities to meet girls and have that relationship once again.

Yes, I spend more during covid lock down than pre covid days.
Because many things cannot do and have to look for release to fill the emptiness which we cannot get from wife or gf.

For those without wives or gf, also spend more because no social events and have to go direct to find release.

Only people who are exceptional are those with FBs or wives/gf with a good sex lives.

[piichai]

Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind...

Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.

[kdb1717]

Actually if you cheong for 20-30 years and spending $2000 a month, don’t be surprised how much you spent and how much potentially you lost in terms of compounding.

Let’s say you start at age of 25 spending $1000 per month and today you are 45. The amount can be invested into a fund that gives u 10% returns. You would have lost $687,000 in your cheong journey. Lol! I have always been trying to stop my cheong journey but didn’t manage to until Covid19 struck! Wa! CB! I dump those money I usually spend cheonging into the stock market and I have accumulated more than $100k in just 1 year. Really fuck! Seriously, best to think using big head. 2 years can easily pay off a Tesla model 3.

Let’s say you are 35, 40, 45 or even 50 today, it is not too late to stop. The $$$ u started accumulating now can be massive. Of course once a while to release if there is really an awesome lady. Cap at 1 time a month max. Not 3 times a week. Ok bros?

Good advice but wa bro 100k in a year on investment/stock is quite a ridiculous return. A bit too good to be true unless you are saying you have a very high capital but for context you say 2k per month for chionging which equates to 24k a year and therefore your return is 4x. What about the risks?

I do appreciate the advice on chionging with a limit :)

[Shinya123]

Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.

True. Some of them have old sugar daddy. Occasionally I see some Chinese syt waking around with some old man doing shopping. Should be the rich sugar daddy.

[Sasuke]

Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor

These are what i saw in their wechat moments
1) Swimming in their condos
2) attending yoga/ gym
3) wine & dine in high class places (some sinkies must hv invited them)
4) showing off the latest presents (LV bags) in recent Chinese V day
5) new handphones

And all of the suddenly, you realised they are leaving Singapore

Guess where they got all these money from?
On the other hand, those work very hard in TCM with no specials, they eat roti outside the shop during break.
Cook own food using instant cooker, walking home from workplace to save transport money.

yes but not all, and normally all this are charging more than market rate, $260 per pop, just 5 clients per day is $1300, 1 month she can earn close to $40k, not to mentioned gifts like branded bags, watches, phones, and even wechat angbaos $520. Just stay away from there, once no demand they will have to reduce their price or go back.

[afterburn]

Those that flaunt their lifestyles and luxury items are usu SYT with sugar daddies. Those more experience and lao chiao ones will not booast or act poor


Those experience and lao chiao ones, pre-covid, they come here and work multiple tours, but when they are back in PRC on annual vacation and put up photos in their wc, can see their nicely furnished apartments back home, kid wear nice clothes, go for enrichment, steady upper middle class life :D

Financed by hard work here jerk off customers and let them roam 4g/5g :D Not bad for some of them whose education level not that high and cannot get good job in PRC.

[bignehneh]

Good advice but wa bro 100k in a year on investment/stock is quite a ridiculous return. A bit too good to be true unless you are saying you have a very high capital but for context you say 2k per month for chionging which equates to 24k a year and therefore your return is 4x. What about the risks?

I do appreciate the advice on chionging with a limit :)

Bro, certain years u have to capitalise on the opportunity. In life, once u missed the opportunity, the next one may take 5-10 years to come. Last year, a lot of stocks like Tesla, Teledoc, Zoom, Gloves, Vaccine stocks etc up how many times. Key thing is to use big head when necessary.

I will continue building this pot as I intend to use this as my cheonging pot. Intend to use max 4% of the returns to cheong. About $4000 a year which is not bad right? For life all these companies pay u to cheong for free.

[bignehneh]

Whenever I saw those MLs/WLs on wechat/ michat showing off their lavish and extravagant shopping, dining, going to casino, thoughts would flash up in my mind.

For stopping to visit them, stop funding them to their lifestyle, save the money and invest prudently. For every single cent, dollar that could securely earn me at least a 4% per annum would compoundently earns me tons of returns and in turn I would be the one showing-off on social media of my lifestyle.

It becomes a habit whenever my biological urge starts, I would look at my very positive investment account and give a good pat on myself for making the right choice. Spending a few hundred dollars to ease the instant male testosterone by these women are just not worth it.

For any average of $300-500/month that I saved and invested for the past 10years with an average of 12%......bros u can do your own calculations on how much I have accumulated.

That's IMO. No offence to any bros here.

Power bro! Just like me, u r like cheonging for free. Haha!

[kdb1717]

Wrong thread!

[kdb1717]

Wrong thread, sorry bros!

[washing]

True bro save up. If I no cheong for years, I think I can save up 30 to 50l. But if you got ED that will be sad so it is good to check if you are able to make your partner die or not. Lol.

[sgpiggybank]

So much mix comments here. No Right or Wrong, just like chicken or egg first. All depends on individual and also I believe all these goes down to excitement and also relationship with spouse. Relationship good meaning going for excitement and relationship no good meaning going for urge and mental relief.

Well, spending to bonk FL is ok but worst in drowning into KC trap. It is worst and money you spent is going to be alot more then you bonk daily....I have been through this and really regretted for spending so much on whores thinking they love you.

I seen many have fallen and some really in bad shape. All money spent on whores while they buy branded and eat all good food. Worst is the money you spent on them they spent also on feeding their husband in China....It will be cheaper for you to bonk and go. Drink milk no need to feed a cow mindset. They live better then you do...and their job is to lied and let all man fuck. While you are paying a fortune for a public toliet....conquering a hole which so many many have used and spending like a idiot as if you are the only one that owns that....

Anyway bonk within your own limits and no regret as when you grow old with ED or PE issues and you see pretty whore outside. You tell yourself..ai yah...I have bonk something even better. No regrets. hahaha.. Money cannot buy back time or sexperience. Bonk while you still can but not get trap in KC game then this will not be a sex addition anymore...there will always be a whore that can fuck better....

[fyeo1969]

I only spend what I can afford. Chionging is the last item on my budget list. Yet, it is one of the things I'd like to give up if I could. The company of a pretty girl is always nice, particularly if they are genuinely nice. I think most bros are sinister about it because they are afraid of the KC trap but the counter argument from the girls' perspective is "no money no honey". As Singaporeans, we may think that girls are materialistic but hey! Isnt that why they come to sell their bodies for? Who are we to judge? Also, we dont understand their culture nor have we walked a day in their shoes... some of these girls come from villages that we can only imagine the hardship... no education, no skills, often an abusive useless husband, parents who think girls are for selling off for dowry, spoiled brothers that they've been socially conditioned to support...

I often see bros who complain they spend 2k or 5k or 20k on a girl only for the girl to dump them once they go home... please lar... often the other side of the story that doesnt get told is the "extras" that you get from these girls. Depending on how good looking the girl is, I think splurging 10k a month isnt unimaginenable. I used to have a girl in China whom I would regularly visit, and often she would fly in for a month for me to enjoy... 10k a month, she cooks for me, bathes me, she willingly installs tracking surveillance on her mobile, she puts cameras in our apartment in China so I can see her etc. I dont know how to put a price on this... we know its a commercial transaction... and it ended when I couldnt go over after borders were locked down. She is often modelling for clothe retailers so I can guarantee you that she is gorgeous. My point is... I think the 10k a month was worth it...

Since we "broke up", Ive been searching for a replacement. I have a couple of MLs that I am "interviewing"... I dont think I will stop the habit... its nice to have a naked, pretty young thing lying with you in bed at 3am...

[fyeo1969]

No regrets. hahaha.. Money cannot buy back time or sexperience. Bonk while you still can but not get trap in KC game then this will not be a sex addition anymore...there will always be a whore that can fuck better....

I agree to some extent. the KC feeling is somethibg money cant buy... what I can agree with is not to be unwitting get stuck in it... if you are, you get treated like a dog by the girl and will behave like one as well... happy when she replies you, dejected when she ignore you (often disgruntled by the fact that you've spent so much money).

These days, whenever the girl I am having a "relationship" throws tantrums at me, I just ask her to pack her bags and leave. Yes, it is lonely sometimes, but for the money I spend, there are always girls in the queue waiting to take her place. Often, the girl will back down... cos she realises that she did it for commercial reasons in the first place and its a much better deal than opening her legs 400 times a month to 150 different men. I refuse to be treated badly when I am ultimately still the customer.

[fshare]

end of the day to each its own. always spend within your means. its good to have tonnes of money but you cant bring all to your grave either.

all of us have been through this addiction at some point of our life as part of growing up. haha thats why we are all at this forum :D

[kombust]

Anyway bonk within your own limits and no regret as when you grow old with ED or PE issues and you see pretty whore outside. You tell yourself..ai yah...I have bonk something even better. No regrets. hahaha.. Money cannot buy back time or sexperience. Bonk while you still can but not get trap in KC game then this will not be a sex addition anymore...there will always be a whore that can fuck better....

i agree with this. i always try to KC the ml/fl so that i stay in the position of power lol. KC them before they KC you! there's a chance you get pleasant surprises

[lovetocum]

Not sure why some bros always kanna KC trap and overcomplicate matters. Just have your own chiong philosophy and stick with it. For example,

1) chiong to satisfy little bro
2) set a fix or estimated amount each month or year to chiong
3) don't get emotionally involved

that's all, simple and don't mix up with other things.

[urger]

1) chiong to satisfy little bro
2) set a fix or estimated amount each month or year to chiong
3) don't get emotionally involved

that's all, simple and don't mix up with other things.

IMO, that's becos married men wants to find a physiological refuge from the ever-sianz wives, naggy wife, not-interested in sex wife, away from kids nonsense etc. Finding a ML/WL fills up the gap in the life.

In the course, when they ML/WLs resonate their needs, men would in-tune with the rhythm, finds attachment and wants to continue to the soothing tunes.....thus money to "buy" the companionship starts.......

As for singles, play play and no harm hook. Nothing to lose.

[ceandy]

Hardly chiong nowadays because of Covid, used the opportunity to curb my addiction.

I place $100 in my wallet that is meant for commercial sex and if I do manage to abstain, I save that money somewhere.

Have been doing that since the end of CB last year, and I just managed to buy a nice watch for myself. OC I still chiong outside but the frequency is like maybe 5-10% pre covid.

I'm alot more alert now, less lethargic and generally feel better about myself.

[sgpiggybank]

IMO, that's becos married men wants to find a physiological refuge from the ever-sianz wives, naggy wife, not-interested in sex wife, away from kids nonsense etc. Finding a ML/WL fills up the gap in the life.



Also to find back the being loved and courting days fresh feelings. Feel more peaceful alone with the whore and whole day bonking without the stress of wife and children.

Like 1 of the bro mentioned. Just set a limit like buying 4D monthly to bonk. anyway exceed limit you have urge also have no money to bonk.

[Ray06]

Hardly chiong nowadays because of Covid, used the opportunity to curb my addiction.

I place $100 in my wallet that is meant for commercial sex and if I do manage to abstain, I save that money somewhere.

Have been doing that since the end of CB last year, and I just managed to buy a nice watch for myself. OC I still chiong outside but the frequency is like maybe 5-10% pre covid.

I'm alot more alert now, less lethargic and generally feel better about myself.



Bro,
if you feel less lethargic and generally feel better then would be good to completely quit ...more watches for yourself ;)

[afterburn]

Talk about spending, the most bizzare thing I ever heard was this ML i go to that has a super-regular customer that comes almost daily :eek: I could hardly believe it but true enough she is always occupied at fixed time-slots almost daily. Finally I ventured to ask and she told me that fella buy 50 hours per month pkg and purely clean massage. ML is also not syt age, mid to late 30. Really her 米桶. Can count how much $ is that. CPF or retirement fund, maybe.

[sgpiggybank]

Talk about spending, the most bizzare thing I ever heard was this ML i go to that has a super-regular customer that comes almost daily :eek: I could hardly believe it but true enough she is always occupied at fixed time-slots almost daily. Finally I ventured to ask and she told me that fella buy 50 hours per month pkg and purely clean massage. ML is also not syt age, mid to late 30. Really her 米桶. Can count how much $ is that. CPF or retirement fund, maybe.

Nothing to be surprise. I am a idiot also to spent alot of money on 3 FLs. These money can buy me a condo already...Deeply regret but I do understand how come some bro can get KC and spent blindly despite of advice given. Now I meet FL with good KC I will try avoid as I still have a weak heart...

[chiongsolo]

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[Cartman2005]

Pretty sure many people here been through this! If you keep your mind busy you will not think of commercial sex.

Yeah once busy working and has project, you wont have time for this. Best if u have some friends can keep you busy on weekend. But once the urge come in, is hard to ignore, i still chiong once a while.

[hornie]

Bro as with anything in life, you need moderation. We all need a break and we all come from different financial background. If you are a high income earner, and by rejuvenating yourself you can get more energy to get more sales done then why not lol. If i earn 30k per month, I would go spa every day why not.

But if you are spending 3x a week on massage at the expense of essential savings, racking up credit card bills, cannot pay home loan etc then pls cut down. Same with drinking, restaurants, smoking and other pleasures, moderation is key and fewer sessions would make the sessions you go for, feel more special


Due to this Covid, your life is some wat stagnated because of the lock down and many restrictions.
You have more time now and you remain single or unhappily married.
Other than the usual family chores, there are no new activities that distract you.

All you can think of is which SPA to go and which ML to find.
Often spending $100 per trip and 3 times per week.
It becomes an habit and you easily spend $1500 per month.
Life is just spending aimlessly and emptiness after emptiness

Then out of a sudden, you met a gal (Not ML, WL or those commercial gals) somewhere in the workplace, social events or party.
You started to date and when not dating, you read, exercise and do something more constructive.
You dont even think of sex but both of you spend time together enjoying. When she Zao geng, you turned your head away.
Going to Spa is once a blue moon thing and the urge i gone.
You dont even need sex at this stage of life with her

Then you looked back and Suddenly you realized that you have been spending foolishly and wasting quite a lot of money in the past for the temporary release.
Even going to MBS top resturant at the sky park is cheaper than your SPA session
So you stopped immediately and completely.
(That explained why some brothers disappear for a while)
However, after a while when relationship fails, you are back to commercialism and into SBF forums.
(That explains why some return) The vicious cycle continue.

Anyone been through this?
Feel free to share.:confused:

[Laofuzi8888]

I don’t drink I don’t smoke. This is my only largest entertainment expense. But still want to have self control and play moderately. Too excessive is harmful.

[bignehneh]

Nothing to be surprise. I am a idiot also to spent alot of money on 3 FLs. These money can buy me a condo already...Deeply regret but I do understand how come some bro can get KC and spent blindly despite of advice given. Now I meet FL with good KC I will try avoid as I still have a weak heart...

Actually learning from this video is correct. Really fuck! How I wish we can reverse time. When young, invest first then use the dividend or the gain to cheong for free later. Now machiam like sponsor ML their condo instead of buying own landed property.

https://youtu.be/lEEDRt2Wcuo

[piichai]

Actually learning from this video is correct. Really fuck! How I wish we can reverse time. When young, invest first then use the dividend or the gain to cheong for free later. Now machiam like sponsor ML their condo instead of buying own landed property.


If you young and invest first, then you become rich but older. you will say KNN, if I know I cheong first so I can enjoy my youth and squeezing all the Big Neh Neh.
Now older cannot fuck 3x a day and the SYT now enhance unlike before. There is no ending when comes to comparison

Who knows. Maybe we do not have the life to enjoy the return of our investment?

The grass is greener on the other side.
Dont look back and say should have done this and that. We have our fun. We cant turn back the clock.

[Charlie130X]

Actually learning from this video is correct. Really fuck! How I wish we can reverse time. When young, invest first then use the dividend or the gain to cheong for free later. Now machiam like sponsor ML their condo instead of buying own landed property.

https://youtu.be/lEEDRt2Wcuo

Thanks for sharing the video, many of us don't have mentor to guide us when we were young. The younger generation now a days are very investment savvy and already started earlier than us.

Incidentally saw you were in an investment forum, you must be waiting to cash out your gain to go cheonging again yeah.....huat arh:D:D

[Charlie130X]

If you young and invest first, then you become rich but older. you will say KNN, if I know I cheong first so I can enjoy my youth and squeezing all the Big Neh Neh.
Now older cannot fuck 3x a day and the SYT now enhance unlike before. There is no ending when comes to comparison

Who knows. Maybe we do not have the life to enjoy the return of our investment?

The grass is greener on the other side.
Dont look back and say should have done this and that. We have our fun. We cant turn back the clock.


True also. I guess, everything that we do has an opportunity cost.

If you don't invest early, you miss the chance of being rich and retire early;

If you don't cheong early, you miss the chance of enjoying your sexual adventure when you are old and can't fuck anymore;

If you don't travel the world early, you miss the chance of seeing the outside world when you are old and sick.

The list can go on and on......Life is full of hit and misses. Gong bei wan one

[SeaCucumber6]

Moderation is the key for me... everything a bit and not excessive.
Cheong too much will burn pocket until whole shirt & trousers gone.
Now maintaining at once a week... but this covid thing is screwing my plan... so now on hold till the wind dies down and the dust settles.

[BroTrustMyWords]

Good thread!

[ceandy]

Bro,
if you feel less lethargic and generally feel better then would be good to completely quit ...more watches for yourself ;)

yes but if quit completely I'll get the urge every now and then :(

[nanahoriuchi]

Before covid i actually told myself to reduce the number of gl visits. Now i regret that decision as $50 or even $40 per shot is damn good bargain. As i aged i realised that my libido is dropping and the little bro isn't as hard as it used to be, my conclusion is, enjoy while u can as money can earn again but the good old times may never return. Of course chiong with what you can afford, despite the weekly gl sessions i still managed to have a sizable savings.

[Charlie130X]

Before covid i actually told myself to reduce the number of gl visits. Now i regret that decision as $50 or even $40 per shot is damn good bargain. As i aged i realised that my libido is dropping and the little bro isn't as hard as it used to be, my conclusion is, enjoy while u can as money can earn again but the good old times may never return. Of course chiong with what you can afford, despite the weekly gl sessions i still managed to have a sizable savings.

Bro, you very steady. Yours is a classic case of being able to strike a balance to achieve the ultimate goal of cheonging. And yes, our little bro also aged too.....:(:(

[moomoo38]

Some people say YOLO cause I never know if today is ur last. There isn’t right or wrong lah. Just just Chiong within ur means

[ladyassasinato]

For me if I dun released frequently I feel weaker. The more I release my dick becomes stronger. Dun noe any bro having the same experience or not. :o

[ceandy]

For me if I dun released frequently I feel weaker. The more I release my dick becomes stronger. Dun noe any bro having the same experience or not. :o

yes same here, but if release too often I'll feel tired and not alert.

Now i release about once a day and I'm good. sex is about 2x a week, the rest all PCC at home.

[ladyassasinato]

OIC, since you like to DIY, you should visit The Sammyboy link/Picture exchange Plaza. I posted many chio bu there for bro who like to PCC. :D

[cavemanng]

Actually learning from this video is correct. Really fuck! How I wish we can reverse time. When young, invest first then use the dividend or the gain to cheong for free later. Now machiam like sponsor ML their condo instead of buying own landed property.

https://youtu.be/lEEDRt2Wcuo

Damn true! My father was someone who invested early and he taught me the concept from young. Now I practically cheong for free as my stocks give me those remarkable returns. In certain years when it crash, quite sad but lucky got some local dividend stocks else have to HJ myself. I watched this video and it is damn true. Some of my friends who cheong ktv at the age of 20+ are not well to do at late 30s. To me, if u start at 20-30, usually u will have more than enough to cheong at 30. The stock market in the past is very efficient. Every year almost give free money. Now Singapore stock market gone case already. So investment is about as early as possible. Cheonging is when you are “ready”. Don’t listen to those idiots who tell you “ooi! If you don’t cheong early, later cock cannot stand how to cheong”? Lj la. By 30s, you would have built up a small pot of gold already.

[piichai]

Since August, didnt log in regularly or visit the ML which I went almost every alternate day. Some left the shore but I realise that I have managed to save up quite a bit. Instead of going SPA, now just do it with her since she is feeding me as and when I want and no hold bars of session. Spend on dinning and shopping instead but am not sure how long this will last before going back to commercial again.

[MichaelWinn]

Since August, didnt log in regularly or visit the ML which I went almost every alternate day. Some left the shore but I realise that I have managed to save up quite a bit. Instead of going SPA, now just do it with her since she is feeding me as and when I want and no hold bars of session. Spend on dinning and shopping instead but am not sure how long this will last before going back to commercial again.
Bro your regular is a fl operating from those condos or own apartments? These type safer than spas and malls which get raided frequently

[piichai]

Bro your regular is a fl operating from those condos or own apartments? These type safer than spas and malls which get raided frequently

Have a few and they are all working adults, married or singles just meeting each other needs. Not commercial types. Both of us just like going dating, if they are married then discreetly, sometimes do it in the car, her house or hotels. This type of relationship takes care of my addiction and pocket. ROI is also good but sometimes will go back commercial scene for some kicks and varieties, depends what I need.

[MichaelWinn]

Have a few and they are all working adults, married or singles just meeting each other needs. Not commercial types. Both of us just like going dating, if they are married then discreetly, sometimes do it in the car, her house or hotels. This type of relationship takes care of my addiction and pocket. ROI is also good but sometimes will go back commercial scene for some kicks and varieties, depends what I need.
Imho those mls from sex trade want money money only...at least you can start to save up money
That is good .since these girls are not from the sex trade

[junmin95]

I work in a high stress environment (fintech if some wants to know) so if I don't jerk it out or have sex, I will feel even more stressed and frustrated. For me, I have 4 options to release my stress. Sex / Food / Alcohol/ Gambling.

Food / Alcohol damage body
Sex / Gambling damage wallet and gambling damage even more than sex thanks to our govt levy and the higher addiction to it.

Last time I drown in food because got gf don't want betray her. End up I become bui bui and she left me anyway. So now, I spend more on sex and eat less where possible. HJ can only reduce stress by so much and hard for bui bui to get free sex from fwb / or even get girlfriends. So finding FL/ML to release is my only option.

[bonk69]

Not our fault, way too many seduction from multination ML u can tahan?
Old days not many ppl offering and hj is really authentic by aunty not too old still acceptable type. Slowly take it down. Not like now most of them are too mechanism and ask to top up

[piichai]

Imho those mls from sex trade want money money only...at least you can start to save up money
That is good .since these girls are not from the sex trade

Another word for ML is commercialism.
Yes, not start to save but stop to spend on commercial.
Having a gf or Fwb is so much cheaper and better. Occasionally still must find a bit commercial activity with protection. Not from sex trade can wack w/o rubber, CIM, CIP and COF.

[piichai]

I work in a high stress environment (fintech if some wants to know) so if I don't jerk it out or have sex, I will feel even more stressed and frustrated. For me, I have 4 options to release my stress. Sex / Food / Alcohol/ Gambling.

Food / Alcohol damage body
Sex / Gambling damage wallet and gambling damage even more than sex thanks to our govt levy and the higher addiction to it.

Last time I drown in food because got gf don't want betray her. End up I become bui bui and she left me anyway. So now, I spend more on sex and eat less where possible. HJ can only reduce stress by so much and hard for bui bui to get free sex from fwb / or even get girlfriends. So finding FL/ML to release is my only option.

Food & Alcohol in moderation wont damage body.
Add in exercise as a form of de-stress.

Gambling is the worst of all. Its is so bad tat it can destroy you.
Take the money that you spend on gambling to socialize and exercise.
You be healthier and less bui bui. Gals will come automatically if you invest in time, effort and money.
Once you have a gf or fwb, you still have spare change to go find ML.

Cut away gambling of any sort and moderate yr drinking & eating

[MichaelWinn]

Another word for ML is commercialism.
Yes, not start to save but stop to spend on commercial.
Having a gf or Fwb is so much cheaper and better. Occasionally still must find a bit commercial activity with protection. Not from sex trade can wack w/o rubber, CIM, CIP and COF.

Ml at orchard towers keep asking for top up...lol.. 150 already lousy rushing services..200 still rushing services... How about a one night stand with rich tai tai..hahaha

[Ahgogo321]

Ml at orchard towers keep asking for top up...lol.. 150 already lousy rushing services..200 still rushing services... How about a one night stand with rich tai tai..hahaha

U got rich tai tai lorbang? Hahaa :D

[snap]

Sometimes I regret not investing earlier too. Maybe now can retired already. Last time young really chiong until $0 every month. This is the problem when you don’t have a gf yet. But now that I look back, it was a lot more fun last time. The FL and ML these days are very different.

[Xgenre]

Sometimes I regret not investing earlier too. Maybe now can retired already. Last time young really chiong until $0 every month.

More practical to find a balance. Chiong until $0 or invest every single dollar are both not right. By the time, you achieve FIRE, your cock not as strong already. You would have missed out on the invincible years as a young, strong man.

There are people who lose a lot of money investing too. Those guys are better off enjoying their money on a holiday, buying a car etc.

[MichaelWinn]

Sometimes I regret not investing earlier too. Maybe now can retired already. Last time young really chiong until $0 every month. This is the problem when you don’t have a gf yet. But now that I look back, it was a lot more fun last time. The FL and ML these days are very different.

yes the mls want fast money, 15 mins you faster faster cum:p... most are older married or divorced with kids and still come out to earn secretly behind their husbands backs:D,some mls even more power, 2 husbands one in china and one in singapore:D,,, multiple sources of income:p

[Heartlandlover]

yes the mls want fast money, 15 mins you faster faster cum:p... most are older married or divorced with kids and still come out to earn secretly behind their husbands backs:D,some mls even more power, 2 husbands one in china and one in singapore:D,,, multiple sources of income:p

Just like some singapore men, multiple family and offspring. We go international. Lol.

Singapore
Malaysia
Thailand
Vietnam
Myanmar
Laos
China
Mongolia

[haikim999]

I work in a high stress environment (fintech if some wants to know) so if I don't jerk it out or have sex, I will feel even more stressed and frustrated. For me, I have 4 options to release my stress. Sex / Food / Alcohol/ Gambling.

Food / Alcohol damage body
Sex / Gambling damage wallet and gambling damage even more than sex thanks to our govt levy and the higher addiction to it.

Last time I drown in food because got gf don't want betray her. End up I become bui bui and she left me anyway. So now, I spend more on sex and eat less where possible. HJ can only reduce stress by so much and hard for bui bui to get free sex from fwb / or even get girlfriends. So finding FL/ML to release is my only option.

Do u exercise regularly? Like go jogging, gym or swim?

[piichai]

Going to ATM and withdraw $100 every few days become a thing of the past. Now still enjoying her company and hope it can last forever. No more credit cards or cash advance to feed my sexual needs from SPA.

[junmin95]

Do u exercise regularly? Like go jogging, gym or swim?


i don't like to gym because i find it very weird to share an enclosed space where people are breathing hard.

swim and run have but not frequent.

[piichai]

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