When to call the girl after getting her phone number?

[pete_the_fish]

Recently attended a conference saw many chiobus. But there was one that particularly stand out from the crowd. She is tall, slim and fair and knows how to dress up. She looks really different from other girls.

During lunch time, since it's free seating, I decided to sit beside her and strike up a conversation with her. You know the usual "have i seen u somewhere before?" line hehe.... Her colleagues were giving one kind of look as if she has seen so many people trying to hit on her before...Turn out she said "yeah, i remember you! You used to be my supervisor." I was stunned and then remembered I used to supervise her when she was still a student in the poly. Anyway, I jst pretended that i remembered. :D

anyway, I didnt try to flirt or anything as she was with her colleagues. After lunch she went back to the conference hall. During tea break, was trying to strike up a conversation with her again but her colleague kept sticking to her. So i waited and finally before the conference ended, her colleague left and she was all alone.

When the conference ended, I pretended to bump into her on the way out. Asked her where she lives and turn out we live in the same estate. So we took the same transport home and got to know more about her. She was really chatty too. she speaks like a singaporean but the dialect she spoke is not like singapore one. Turn out she said she was from china. Wow!! no wonder she look so different from sg girls. I later asked her for her contact number. :p

Was wondering when i should call her and ask her out for a drink so as not to be seen as too desperate.

[jojojojo1989]

i sincerely wish you luck in your conquest.

[qw2op]

call now! :eek: ... rite now! :eek:

my ex-colleague used 2 tell me ... it's now or never! :cool:

[ekemono]

you can call her as soon as you want to, but if the conference was held today then its better to let her rest. When to call is really situational and personal preference but thru my personal experiences if i took more than a few days later she might just starts to get forgetful. They often say "strike while the iron is hot".
indeed the first asking for a date makes or break your further development with her. Too soon may not deem you desperate because it depends on how you make your move, but too late and the iron has cooled and forging becomes difficult. Ladies are all about the "feelings" inside thier heart.

Ah.., maybe a good time to catch Ironman :)

[Booker]

Well maybe you can send her a SMS in the evening or something to say like, nice seeing you again that sort of things, then wait for her response to see got any chance of going out or something.

But as mentioned, don;t wait too long. After the conference in the evening should be a good time, if not one day after the conference to say nice seeing her that kind will be a good start.

Good luck! Do keep us updated on your progress if you don;t mind.


:D

[digital]

.Turn out she said "yeah, i remember you! You used to be my supervisor." I was stunned and then remembered I used to supervise her when she was still a student in the poly.

When the conference ended, I pretended to bump into her on the way out. Asked her where she lives and turn out we live in the same estate. So we took the same transport home and got to know more about her. She was really chatty too.

Was wondering when i should call her and ask her out for a drink so as not to be seen as too desperate.
Want to sian girl must be thick skin lah.
If you are daring, just go ahead and dont hesitate, seen too desperate also die die must go. :p

Since everything seem so zhun, u two know one another too, just call lor.

But if you scare, just pretend to hang around her place and bump on her again lor. Then can chat at nearby coffeshop again.

[Prickly Heat]

Actually no right time, just call anytime you like but not late night when people is sleeping.

[soundworks]

Bro,strike the iron while hot, call her tomorrow for dinner!:D

[ss_revup]

Time to pick up the phone n call her tomorrow night!! Ask her how is she doing now.. how she got to work in that company.. start with some casual small talk.. then ask her if she's free to meet up for coffee over the weekends..

"let's catch up over a cuppa coffee this sat!".. pretty harmless excuse to use.. heh.. since she's from china should be quite easy to hit on her.. :p

[Xgenre]

Was wondering when i should call her and ask her out for a drink so as not to be seen as too desperate.

I think besides finding a time to call her, it's important to know what to say as well. If you dunno when to call her, I think you also dunno what to say to her also. Last time when I call girls up to chat, I will plan what to say in advance. I will write down point 1 say what... point 2... if she says this.... how do i continue...

Eg ah: I ask her abt a movie showing in the cinema now, if she says she has watched it, i will ask her for her comments on the show and then chat on... If she says she hasn't watched it, I will invite her out for the show, saying I heard it's very nice etc. So in both ways, I win.

Bro, if you want to hook pretty girls, may have to put in some effort to try catching. Good luck.

[Deztruct]

u only got 3 days..after 3 days..most likely the ger wld think tat u are not interested and forget abt u..as for to call or sms..some pple wld say its beta to call..(gers like it beta)..but for me..i wld usually sms coz u neva noe when it is a gd time to call e.g she inside meeting or worse out with bf :p

[Niceman]

TS, give me her number, I call for U and ask. Ok? :)

[DarthRevan]

Dun wait too long, less than 1 week or her memory of you might wane.

[pete_the_fish]

I think what i m afraid is REJECTION :eek:. And I never ask any girl out before so a bit nervous. Guess i hv to b thick skin.

I know where she works, do you think I should "pop by" ? Not sure if sending sms is a good idea....not sincere but i guess for her generation (early 20s), it's fine.

When I asked her for her contact, she just give it to me. Can i assume that she expects me to call her?:confused:

[colins]

According to master PUA (pickup artist), call after you've done 'busying' over something. The business may be real or not, but give it an impression that you're not with nothing to do and therefore decide to call her. Act busy, make a few short calls and say hi, ask if she can make it for thursday dinner (or any other dates) saying you're free on that night from 7 to 9pm. If she cannot make it, give her sms meanwhile for one or two days and ask again if she is free next tuesday (again, after a few days for you to 'schedule' your time).

Like that, you can keep her in contact and ask her to come out, while appearing not too desperate at all.

Hope that works for you.

[colins]

When I asked her for her contact, she just give it to me. Can i assume that she expects me to call her?:confused:

You'll be your own self fulfilling prophecy if you dare not do it. Yes you are afraid of rejection, so you reject yourself first, right?

Can you assume that she expect you to call her? Sorry man, I have no idea why the hell else would she give you her number, esp after you managed to talk to her for such a while after the conference.

If that is not a sign for you to call her, you're probably looking at some divine signs that when you finally acknowledge those signs, she's already a grandmother.

[pete_the_fish]

You'll be your own self fulfilling prophecy if you dare not do it. Yes you are afraid of rejection, so you reject yourself first, right?

Can you assume that she expect you to call her? Sorry man, I have no idea why the hell else would she give you her number, esp after you managed to talk to her for such a while after the conference.

If that is not a sign for you to call her, you're probably looking at some divine signs that when you finally acknowledge those signs, she's already a grandmother.

Haha....i dont know why I always doubt myself when it comes to chasing girls. in the past, most of them gave quite clear signals before I dare to make any moves. Now I also do not want to do it too hastily or wait too long. During the conference, when her colleague left to go to the toilet, I nearly had the impetus to go and sit beside her and ask for her number because I thought it's now or never. I dont want to regret not trying. But later I thought that would seem too desperate/thick skin. So I waited until she was finally alone and then I strike. Was glad I waited patiently for the right moment.

She made a call on our way home talking to someone quite intimately and I thought it was her bf and I thought I should give up. when she finished her call, she told me she was talking to her sister....lucky still got chance....:p

Anyway, on the way home, she asked me if I need to get dinner before getting back to the office, i said yeah maybe........later i hit myself on the head and thought maybe she is inviting me to join her for dinner!!:o What a stupid reply....damn it...

[s1.w3n.b41.l31]

simple stats..
call her.. got a bit of chance.
don't call her.. got 0 chance.

anyway, if kena rejection, take it as a lesson. failure is the okasan of success no? its not like she is your one and only atm.. the forest is big and there are still a lot of trees you haven't gone hugging before. :P

too bad i didnt think of that previously.. lol :D

[Xgenre]

Actually what kind of conference is this? If it is business or work related, dun you exchange name cards? Name cards will give u an opportunity to keep in touch right? Dun be afraid of rejection lar. If she rejects you, who will know? Nobody around you will know you got rejected right? So go for it. No guts, no glory.

[colins]

Haha....i dont know why I always doubt myself when it comes to chasing girls. in the past, most of them gave quite clear signals before I dare to make any moves. ...

Friend, I was like you last time, and I guess many bros here can relate to that as well. In my opinion, its either self-confidence or you are a person who likes to 'dig the cow's horn' (a lot of single child has this problem). Sometimes most of the battles are fought internally in your brain as you assess the multitudes of possibilities, unfortunately you tend to project more failure scenarios than you're supposed to. In the end, when you finally decided that its time, you have to totally force yourself to do something which you know it will fail, and fail it will.

Later on, you'll find that the problem is you treat her as too importantly at too an early stage. You may even realise that your own foretelling is somewhat away from reality that sort of create much confusion between what you believe and what you see or sense from the situation at that time.

You brain becomes like an overloaded CPU during the time when you're with her, considering all possibilities and matching them to reality, much like playing chess and you're the computer opponent. Thats why you appear slow in thinking and unable to react fast during your encounter with her. The fact is, you're too occupied in your own world liao.

The last reality that will finally hit upon you, when the whole bout is over, is that you shouldn't have appear so 'high-up', and probably wish so badly that you hadn't need to maintain this consistently non-desperate image of yours in front of her, which you would reckon is the main cause to this failure.

Let me know if its true so I can understand you better. Its not passing judgement on you ok.

[GL Roamer]

Think by now you should have called her ... wait too long you czant talk about the conference, else can bedek bedek talk about that...

[pete_the_fish]

I have been wondering what I should do .........

I own a small biz and we are looking for people to join us. I have thought of using this excuse to ask her out and talk about "business". However, she is already employed and I am not sure if she will quit and join me if I give her a good offer.

On the other hand, i am thinking if I should just pursur her to become my girlfriend and then subsequently it would be easier to ask her to join my company. However, I do no want to work in the same company as my girlfriend.

Another scenario would be, I would ask her to become my colleague when we meet and if she decline my offer, maybe I can ask her to be my gf instead if we can't be colleague . :D

Anyway, I will be sending her sms later to test water. :p

[SexCult]

Brudder, you wanna ask her join you , liddat how to upz her .... Should just talk about the conference lor .... and from there see how it goes ...

[pete_the_fish]

Brudder, you wanna ask her join you , liddat how to upz her .... Should just talk about the conference lor .... and from there see how it goes ...

Well, I guess that's the problem....It would be great if I can get her to work for me, then I upz her after that then I also have the option of firing her :D

Otherwise it would be upz her first then see how.

She is a chio girl. I saw guys looking at her but have no guts to approach her. A pity cos she looks so approachable. If I did not approach and get her phone num I will be cursing and swearing at myself now. There is also another chio one but she was always surrounded by her girl friends.

[JrBoy]

In my view, call asap, dun delay. Cause i rem once i got this chio model no. quite long ago, but nv muster up the courage to call her. Slowly, never contact liao. Quite :(

[pete_the_fish]

Just SmS her, but no reply yet.....sianzzz.........

I remembered I tried to ask a girl out last time when I knew a girl in a confernece also. She was also chatty etc...but when i start asking her out, she gave all sorts of excuse. Now i think about it...also a bit sianzzzz:(

Hope this time will be different cos according to chinese astrology, this year I have tao hua yun (love luck). So lets see if it's true. :rolleyes:

[qw2op]

Just SmS her, but no reply yet.....sianzzz.........

I remembered I tried to ask a girl out last time when I knew a girl in a confernece also. She was also chatty etc...but when i start asking her out, she gave all sorts of excuse. Now i think about it...also a bit sianzzzz:(

Hope this time will be different ...

aiyah ... dun tink so much la ...

life is like a box of chocolates ... u'll neer noe wat u gonna get ...

if tis bus is full, wait 4 ze next 1 lor ... there r many more 2 cum ...

if u dun do tis wen u r young, u want 2 do tis oni wen u r o meh? ...

10 yrs down ze rd n u look back on tis ... would u prefer 2 hv done tis or done tis nt? ...

& 10 yrs down ze rd n u look back on tis ... tis wil juz b another small matter ...

[gniwgonwk]

Just SmS her, but no reply yet.....sianzzz.........

I remembered I tried to ask a girl out last time when I knew a girl in a confernece also. She was also chatty etc...but when i start asking her out, she gave all sorts of excuse. Now i think about it...also a bit sianzzzz:(

Hope this time will be different cos according to chinese astrology, this year I have tao hua yun (love luck). So lets see if it's true. :rolleyes:

Don't be too bothered. Should just give her a call - sometimes she may have not received the SMS you sent, or just missed it as the phone number is not familiar.

Just call her when you feel like it BUT NO MATTER WHAT don't be obsessive and call umpteen times - it turns girls off!!!

[Si Geena]

If a girl likes you, anytime also good time for her.

And from the way you've described your interaction so far, she's quite open to your advances.

So you must retain the initiative.

[pete_the_fish]

She replied and seems quite enthusiastic too!! :D

I am waiting for the right opportunity to ask her out for drinks.

I just met her few days ago. Should I ask her out tomorrow?:confused: will that be too fast...dont want to scare her off...:p

[keano]

wah piang..TS, you never have gf b4 ah?

nevertheless i like your thread..we bros can brainstorm what to help you and at the same time learn tips too

mm..do you have a budget if you gg have a date with her?

if not easy..go makan, then chill lo..there are so many live bands nowadays..

dun watch movie..waste $ and time..lol

[formidable]

no harm asking her out for a date, so long you are sincere and she feels it :)
It is the heart and chemistry that counts. Good luck :)

[jojojojo1989]

pete the fish. are you thinking of bonking her on your very first date? den y are you advertising your advances in this forum which is for discusion on you knoe I know (no offense).

[pete_the_fish]

From the way she replies my sms, i felt that everything was right and just asked her what she doing tomorrow. she said no plans and i just ask her out!!!

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D

OMG I can't believe when she said yes to my invitiation. i was ecstatic!!

I have dated a few girls but most of the time is I asked them out after knowing them for some time.

When I first saw her, I can't take my eyes off her. TOld myself I just want to get to know her. BUt now I ended up having a date with her.

And I can't believe a chio girl like her is not taken.

Guess must be due to my tao hua yun (love luck)!!

Now I will see if I can get to 1st base. :p

[guywonder]

my que to TS is..

are u interested as in u wan to BONK her?
or are u interested becoz u like her?

[dbhh]

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D

OMG I can't believe when she said yes to my invitiation. i was ecstatic!!



Only 1 shot on target and you've scored the opening goal. Even Cristiano Ronaldo would be proud. :D

Congrats on your progress. Do update us for the next phase...

[pete_the_fish]

my que to TS is..

are u interested as in u wan to BONK her?
or are u interested becoz u like her?

I am interested in her bcos i like her. althougth the bonking did cross my mind....esp when i saw her down blouse and smooth white skin........

I havent had this kind of attraction to a girl for a long time...that's why it feels great to be able to have a date with her...

[wikiwise]

Good job bro! Now that you have jumped the first hurdle, what are you planning for your first date with her?

[pete_the_fish]

Good job bro! Now that you have jumped the first hurdle, what are you planning for your first date with her?

not sure, man... she mentioned she dont want to stay out late, so i guess we will just have a drink or or chill......any suggestion on location?

[darkice]

TS sounds like some 14 year old kid asking on how to date a girl out :P

[darkice]

not sure, man... she mentioned she dont want to stay out late, so i guess we will just have a drink or or chill......any suggestion on location?

If you don't mind the cost, I will suggest equinox. Nice place with a nice view. Pretty romantic too. :P

First date is important I feel. :)

If you can rent a car, all the better! :P

[wikiwise]

Maybe taker her to Arab St for some sheesha/hookah, or bring her to House at Dempsey Rd. That place has a great environment, good dinner menu and nice cocktails.

My advice would be to bring her somewhere unique that she would remember as a first date. Don't make it too romantic (it may scare her off - it also may not, really depends on what shes like).

I guess in the end don't rack your brain too hard thinking of where you guys will go. Simply dinner and drinks would do. Just take that time to have a good conversation, get to know her better, make her do most of the talking, pick up on her hints and play by ear. Good luck bro!

[Si Geena]

Brother, haven't goal yet. Using the footballing analogy, you've just got possession of the ball. Now you need to use it.

As I mentioned earlier, if the girl likes you, any place also okay one. Now's the testing each other out phase, so you need to see how she structure her midfield ( her intentions) and her defence (what she wears). If her midfield and defence is very evident, then you can shoot for goal. But you must determine if her goalie jai anot also. Sometimes, girls just want to have fun but their goalie (her bottomline) is very steady.

[xiao mei]

No need romantic first time around, maybe you will scre her off by coming on too strong .... just go like Sakae Sushi or Sushi Tei in town, from there maybe try catch a movie .. then go to lido, sure no tickets, so you have another date liao ....

[maila]

Just act normal and go out as though like with colleague lor ... from there see how it goes ... I assume, the way you talk, targeting her as long term GF ,.

[mmhunter]

Bro, you seem like a really nice guy so I thought maybe I should remind you to take it slow in case you come back hurt. Just wanna tell you that China gals (decent or otherwise) dun behave and think the same way as Spore gals, even if they studied in Spore. So dun misinterpret her words and actions and think that she is in love with you. Anyway, from my limited experiences with China gals (decent or otherwise), they tend to be rather easy, so you may wanna try for 3rd base quickly and find out if she has any hidden agenda. My 2 cents worth.

[pete_the_fish]

Bro, you seem like a really nice guy so I thought maybe I should remind you to take it slow in case you come back hurt. Just wanna tell you that China gals (decent or otherwise) dun behave and think the same way as Spore gals, even if they studied in Spore. So dun misinterpret her words and actions and think that she is in love with you. Anyway, from my limited experiences with China gals (decent or otherwise), they tend to be rather easy, so you may wanna try for 3rd base quickly and find out if she has any hidden agenda. My 2 cents worth.

OMG !! you scaring me.

This girl has been in singapore for about 9 years and speak very good english. When she speaks, she don;t sound like she is from china at all, more like typical singaporean girl. She graduated from the poly doing a course which requires very low o'level cut off point, which means she must be quite intelligent. She is unlike any china girls I met so far which made me interested in her.

Anyway, will see how it goes.

Thanks everyone for their ideas. :)

[uncle gg]

i suggest you played hard ball tactics. lets' wait for the girl to call you. singapore girls are just unique in a way.:p

[UndeaD80]

so TS how is ur outing with the ger?
Got score? or yellow card?
try to get her to foul u near the penalty box and u get a free kick near the box and gd chance to score a beauty goal :)

[pete_the_fish]

so TS how is ur outing with the ger?
Got score? or yellow card?
try to get her to foul u near the penalty box and u get a free kick near the box and gd chance to score a beauty goal :)

hmmmm........it's just a "get to know" session with her....nothing serious. We went to some restaurant for drinks/ dessert. And she led the way too. luckily cos I can be quite indecisive. Many girls i dated would just depend on me to make decision like where to go what to do, etc.

I got the impression that she is a nice girl, mature and independent for her age. And she is very chatty and show interest in me.. not like some girls who expect the guy to make the conversation all the time and sit there like wallflower...

It was a good date. I must say I do enjoy her company. HOWEVER, she dont look that HOT to me now. I dont know why I thougth she is the hottest girl that day.....must be her dressing and the push up bra.....:D

will see how.......

[Flavoured]

pete, it wont hurt to just date around, you see to give the impression that she has a pretty good sense for fashion, maybe you ask her out again on the contexts of looking for clothes. it could be fun.

be daring.

[pete_the_fish]

She left hurriedly when she saw her bus coming. So we did not have a proper goodbye and say things like , nice to meet you , hope to see you again etc...

thought she would call or text me when she got home and say it's nice meeting me etc.

however, the next day, she sent me a message saying that she forgot to pass me the money for the things she ordered.

hmmm........does that mean she wants to see me again? just using this as a pretext?? :D

many girls would take for granted that the guy pay right? :rolleyes:

[ekemono]

however, the next day, she sent me a message saying that she forgot to pass me the money for the things she ordered.

hmmm........does that mean she wants to see me again? just using this as a pretext?? :D

many girls would take for granted that the guy pay right? :rolleyes:

As much as what you are guessing, it may also mean she's seeking to know if you are the "generous" type.

I had a similar experience. Dated a co-worker to a movie and after that she sms me about forgeting to pay me for her share. She replied saying the next dinner is on her. While it may meant she's offering another date, it may also meant she is totally not into me and prefer to go on dutch to come clean.
I didn't ask for that dinner though.
Dun have that "feeling" there. Move on...

[qw2op]

... HOWEVER, she dont look that HOT to me now. I dont know why I thougth she is the hottest girl that day.....must be her dressing and the push up bra...
walao eh! ... take 2nd look, feel sian liao? ... mayb u shld c how she's like wen she wakes up in ze morning ... :p

... many girls would take for granted that the guy pay right?
dose who want u 2 pay 1, u betta quickly siam dem b4 dey take u as carrot head ...

[pete_the_fish]

As much as what you are guessing, it may also mean she's seeking to know if you are the "generous" type.

I had a similar experience. Dated a co-worker to a movie and after that she sms me about forgeting to pay me for her share. She replied saying the next dinner is on her. While it may meant she's offering another date, it may also meant she is totally not into me and prefer to go on dutch to come clean.
I didn't ask for that dinner though.
Dun have that "feeling" there. Move on...

What i feel is , if she is not interested, she would not even bother pretending to send me sms saying she wants to pay for her share. It's a very small amount. She could have just said thanks for the drink and stop there. I told her she can treat me back next time we meet. If she is not interested, I dont think she would create this opportunity for me to ask her out again.

I am not really that interesed in her but we could keep in touch as we stay in the same estate and I can call her out for movie or supper or clubbing and maybe.....:D No harm having another lady friend , right? :)

[colins]

I am not really that interesed in her but we could keep in touch as we stay in the same estate and I can call her out for movie or supper or clubbing and maybe.....:D No harm having another lady friend , right? :)

OH REALLY?

[formidable]

anything can happen ha. Keep it up. It tastes better as it gets older just like wine-"friendship"

[lacoruna69]

I am not really that interested in her but we could keep in touch as we stay in the same estate and I can call her out for movie or supper or clubbing and maybe.....No harm having another lady friend, right?

Well, I would say just go for it. Don't get too despo and expect things to work out. Just relax yourself, treat her as a normal friend and let things go on from there. As for your fear of rejection,.....ai yah come on lah, you are a guy mah. Learn to take it gracefully and move on. Believe me, after a while, you would have got rid of that distasteful feeling of getting rejected. Who knows, one day, you might meet your destined princess.......

"If you try, you might succeed or fail. If you never try, you are forever a failure.":cool:

[ekemono]

What i feel is , if she is not interested, she would not even bother pretending to send me sms saying she wants to pay for her share. It's a very small amount. She could have just said thanks for the drink and stop there. I told her she can treat me back next time we meet. If she is not interested, I dont think she would create this opportunity for me to ask her out again.

I am not really that interesed in her but we could keep in touch as we stay in the same estate and I can call her out for movie or supper or clubbing and maybe.....:D No harm having another lady friend , right? :)

correct... in another word, you still wanna bonk her :D

[Snuber]

OH REALLY?

hahahhahahahaha :D

[pete_the_fish]

correct... in another word, you still wanna bonk her :D

If she did not send me the sms after our first date, probably not. Since she expressed "interest", why not?! :p

Will call her next week and ask her to go for a (alcoholic) drink :D

[pete_the_fish]

Haven't called the girl since our first date about a week plus ago.

Yesterday, she sent me a msg about a story between boy and a girl....and the moral of the story is something like "treasure the one you love, don't wait until you lose them then you start tresuring them"...:eek:

Anybro can tell me why she send me this kind of msg?? :p

Is she trying to hint at something?? :D

Should I ask her out again??

[formidable]

could mean she wanna maintain this "friendship". Gal(she like u) felt lost if guy never call her for some time. Strike while iron is hot ha. Good luck bro:)

[GLhero]

Bro, I have been reading this blog by this group of people that basically does what you are attempting to do (aka picking up girls (http://www.buckmylife.com/?p=37)) but seriously taking this to a whole new level.

I just thought you might want to gather more info and do some more research before when you go in for the kill.

Been reading what they have been doing for a while and applying some of their techniques on my girl (also from PRC), she has been nice, docile and very controllable ever since. :p

[LianLover]

Haven't called the girl since our first date about a week plus ago.

Yesterday, she sent me a msg about a story between boy and a girl....and the moral of the story is something like "treasure the one you love, don't wait until you lose them then you start tresuring them"...:eek:

Anybro can tell me why she send me this kind of msg?? :p

Is she trying to hint at something?? :D

Should I ask her out again??

amidst the positive well wishers....lemme be the practical n negative one...

i personally tink gone case....reasons as follows:

1) the 1st msg from her after ur date is abt paying for her share??? if a girl likes a guy she will take certain things for granted....not to say she expects him to pay for everything but she will not bother paying him back unless its a substantial amt...of cos if ther guy proves to be one who is affected by this, he will fail in most girls' books....i will think a more positive message will be sumthign more mundane like "gd morning" the following day rather than sumthing like, "thx for last nite" anything too formal usually indicates failure

2) 1 wk and no contact??? IF there was any little feelings in her for u....it would have oredi dwindled n faded away. If she had wanted to pursue sumthing more, once again, simple messages will allow her to get her way....most guys will jump at replying messages from girls regardless of whether they are interested in them anot....(as mentioned by ts....."no harm in having another lady fren")...so its very easy for women to get an sms conversation started just by simple greetings

3) unless the sms specifically mentions "i love u"....its usually indicates platonic interest only. 1 week has passed...no news from u....she then just forwards an sms her fren sent her to u to hold on to the frenship.....girls today are way more direct than to resort to such subtle approaches if otherwise....

anyway just my opinion...gd luck nevertheless

[LianLover]

on another note....lets start another discussion

when do u guys think its best to contact, i.e. call/sms, a KTV girl after getting her number....and the best approach....i.e. topic....pretext.....etc

points to note will be

- nationality is sgp
- only met once, but clicked in converasation thru the nite, (tho its probably due tot he fact u are paying lol)
- u r not interested in bonking her only, i.e. casual dating is on ur mind
- she will definately reply u as her customer but ur aim is to break away from being tagged a customer
- u are one of many who tried...

lol...or is the best way to go down to the ktv AGAIN...i personally feel its best to go down to the ktv again....and this has always been my modus operandi...but am curious as to what other bros tink...