View Full Version : Anyone there to help this Pitiful Gal?
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 08:04 AM
This is a true fact, which happens few days ago. I was very very fed up, so i post this tread and ask for help for this Vietnam Lady who is a friend of my wife's.
My wife just brought me to see her friend last Sunday, there is this uncle who married my wife's friend last year. Which i thought my wife is blowing up the story only when i feel it myself, the gal went out with us for a meal together, then to catch up for a while with my wife, but her husband call up and ask where we are, then also ask for my wife's contact.
But here comes the trouble, he call around 10 min later asking where we are going, and ask a lots of question, going where, going to do what, etc..., then after 20 min, he called again, asking where is our exact location, what time coming back etc... then another 10 min called again, asking where is the exact location again, and another 10 min call again, which i n my wife dun even bother to ans, when total to 23 missed call from my mobile, dun how many missed call from her wife's mobile.
But that's not the worst, he calculate even a single cent with his wife that going here and there, like petrol cost to go here and there to eat, so expensive, how much it cost, then eat seafood expensive...etc. I can't even imagine, her wife requested just to eat 2 crab, and my wife told me that the husband didn't even buy for her to eat just because expensive, come on, how expensive is that?
And even she wanted to buy chat chat card to call back to Vietnam, she have to pay for herself.
Here comes the most annoying part. The husband will only give her household allowance after every 30 days in Singapore and will only give 10 days upon reaching 30 days, and she is suppose to work with him from morning 6am to 6pm giving her $50 daily only after work, only food, the husband will pay for her, but all the other things which the wife's need or other things, she would have to pay for herself. I even heard that her husband got a son and a daughter already, but only the son is staying with him. But he even collect rental from his son just because he is staying with him.
The gal told my wife that her husband change totally after marriage from day 1. Which i think, who can endure this type of treatment, is she his wife, or just treating her like a overnight booking working whore?
This uncle is a 60 plus old uncle and the gal is just 20 plus.. And he didn't even give a single cent to her family when married. He is such a miser till who can tolerate this kind of person and act. He is not poor, i seen his car, he can buy a korean car at around $70plus k and fully paid, and wanted to change car in a few months time, and his house also fully paid. But he can be so bastard..
So anyone can figure out who can help the gal to divorce the husband? But the issue is the gal do not have money to pay for the lawyer, but the husband would not file for divorce and pay for the fees neither.
If any bros here wants to know the address of this bastard son of a bitch, i can even find out. I only know he lives at AMK, Blk 547 or 5**, can't remember well, on the second level.
Any comments on this type of people?
commando23
15-05-2008, 08:53 AM
ur wife can help her friend by asking the friend to go to the courts to file for divorce due to can't stand the husband and can't live with the husband wat.....annul the marriage. The marriage is still quite early rite? only less than a few months?
I dunno what that term is called. but if u can't tahan living with ur husband due to different personality, there's such a thing that u can do to annul the marriage but have to pass thru courts.
TheGreatOne
15-05-2008, 10:14 AM
dun mean any cold water but there is this saying: 家家有本難唸的經
as outsider, sometimes can't help it la. I'm pretty sure bros here would agree to this unwritten rule of never to interfere with other's home affair.
the old man might be feeling insecure. imagine a 60s ah pek with 20s young wife, not worry meh? He may be just giving little to his wife but at least $50 a day leh. Some make the wife help out without single cent, dude. That one lagi kolian but what to do?
To advocate separation is never a good advice unless he physically abuse her or make money out from her then different story.
peace dude.
2cents...
trefyes
15-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Bro X_plorer,
Are you hearing just 1 side of the story??
ekemono
15-05-2008, 12:32 PM
if they have consumate the marriage then probably cannot void it so easily.
But on the other hand, why choose to marry a 60 yr old man when she is only 20?
deptrai4u
15-05-2008, 01:05 PM
Bro X_plorer,
Are you hearing just 1 side of the story??
To me, I think that it is not so simple to pass a judgment that says He is BAD and SHE is the VICTIM.
In the very first place, nobody force her to marry an ugly old man. Is also her negligence for not conducting sufficient due diligence before signing the contract if all the above is true. But if she was really in a hurry to marry this old rich ugly dying man and jump into it without much consideration, then think of what kind of situation she is in before she married that old ugly dying man.
Next, you need to also know what has she done before that makes him not trust her. This young girl may have other young bf that this old man knows about. Imagine if you are that old man, you will be quite generous if you had even let her go out with her friend and have some time on her own.
S$50 per day... her conditions previously in Vietnam could be a S$50 per week if she is lucky, otherwise S$50 per 2 weeks is more likely the case.
Eating crab... if she has all the rice, meat and vege to eat to her heart's content but crab is just not part of the deal.. then that old man must be quite a miser, however it not a crime being a miser. But think of it this way.. old man must have thought that she is not worth investing so much money for some good reasons that he has. It is therefore her job to work into the trust of her old man and convince him to give her more luxury. Most old man at 60 have been thru life and can usually see more in life than just money. They usually have a plan or a reason to behave in such a manner.
Many viet woman who marries a viet man, eventually also ended up divorce becos the men they married simply is a useless bump who does not work, take drugs, feed on wife's money and squandered on other girls.... Many viet woman who married China men or Taiwan men, ended up going back with them and working in the farm and at night the brothers, uncles etc take turns to sleep with her... she is much better off staying in vietnam. Your wife (I guess is also a viet) whom you marry and whom you treated her very well, is very lucky woman and she really have to thanks her lucky stars for you. But that does NOT entitle her friend to have the same good fate! Life is unfair, right from the moment you were born. And there is just nothing we can do about it but live with it and make the best out of it.
Finally, as you can think she is pitiful... does she really needs your help in any way? or are you just acting without her consent? If she really wants your help or anyone's help to get out of the situation, then its simple.. ask her to choose 1 of the following:
1. Leave him and go back to where she came from exactly the same way she was before and not ask for anything or money from old man.
2. Proceed with divorce which she will be entitled 50% of old man's asset and then she can choose to live life the way she wants in Singapore or Vietnam...
3. Continue life the way it is now with that miser old ugly dying man and keep complaining and be miserable.
You ask her to choose... and you will know what she is made of.
I am making the above comments in the fairest way I can.. with sufficient knowledge of the Vietnamese language, culture and experience.
sammyboyfor
15-05-2008, 01:06 PM
Any comments on this type of people?
There are so many stories of men being taken for a ride and swindled by women, it's therefore great to hear about a woman on the receiving end for a change.
This 60 year old uncle is doing Singapore proud. I congratulate him for showing his wife who is the boss!:D
SingViet
15-05-2008, 01:58 PM
The thing that is missing in their relationship is TRUST. Its either the husband is overly suspicios or the wife has not been giving the husband that she can be trusted. To be true, this is the main thing lacking in most Singapore - Vietnamese relationship. The reason is most vietnamese gals do a lot of things behind the back of Singapore. Not one or two, but there's a lot of Vietnamese ladies still in contact with their former bfs in vietnam even after they are married to Singaorean man and this is just one of the things they do behind their singaporean husband's back.
If you have been married long enuff to a Vietnamese lady and have stayed in vietnam with them for some time and also understand their culture, then you will be more willing to look at both side of the coin. It took me around 3 years and numerous incidents to trust my wife. to a large extend, many singaporean man do not even know that their vietnamese wife is doing a lot of things behind their back. but once they discover, the trust for their vietnamese wife will be gone. Trust is not given, it has to be earned.
SingViet
15-05-2008, 02:01 PM
I am making the above comments in the fairest way I can.. with sufficient knowledge of the Vietnamese language, culture and experience.
Bro, we share the same view and thoughts on this matter. :D
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:20 PM
Bro X_plorer,
Are you hearing just 1 side of the story??
Not 1 side story, but actual i did even talk to the uncle on the phone and seen him from a distance.
He is really so stuck up and really like police giving a curfew to a person..
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:22 PM
if they have consumate the marriage then probably cannot void it so easily.
But on the other hand, why choose to marry a 60 yr old man when she is only 20?
You think she got choice meh, her family poor, no money. No choice come here at least got someone to take care of her and her family a bit but end up in this situation.
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:26 PM
To me, I think that it is not so simple to pass a judgment that says He is BAD and SHE is the VICTIM.
In the very first place, nobody force her to marry an ugly old man. Is also her negligence for not conducting sufficient due diligence before signing the contract if all the above is true. But if she was really in a hurry to marry this old rich ugly dying man and jump into it without much consideration, then think of what kind of situation she is in before she married that old ugly dying man.
Next, you need to also know what has she done before that makes him not trust her. This young girl may have other young bf that this old man knows about. Imagine if you are that old man, you will be quite generous if you had even let her go out with her friend and have some time on her own.
S$50 per day... her conditions previously in Vietnam could be a S$50 per week if she is lucky, otherwise S$50 per 2 weeks is more likely the case.
Eating crab... if she has all the rice, meat and vege to eat to her heart's content but crab is just not part of the deal.. then that old man must be quite a miser, however it not a crime being a miser. But think of it this way.. old man must have thought that she is not worth investing so much money for some good reasons that he has. It is therefore her job to work into the trust of her old man and convince him to give her more luxury. Most old man at 60 have been thru life and can usually see more in life than just money. They usually have a plan or a reason to behave in such a manner.
Many viet woman who marries a viet man, eventually also ended up divorce becos the men they married simply is a useless bump who does not work, take drugs, feed on wife's money and squandered on other girls.... Many viet woman who married China men or Taiwan men, ended up going back with them and working in the farm and at night the brothers, uncles etc take turns to sleep with her... she is much better off staying in vietnam. Your wife (I guess is also a viet) whom you marry and whom you treated her very well, is very lucky woman and she really have to thanks her lucky stars for you. But that does NOT entitle her friend to have the same good fate! Life is unfair, right from the moment you were born. And there is just nothing we can do about it but live with it and make the best out of it.
Finally, as you can think she is pitiful... does she really needs your help in any way? or are you just acting without her consent? If she really wants your help or anyone's help to get out of the situation, then its simple.. ask her to choose 1 of the following:
1. Leave him and go back to where she came from exactly the same way she was before and not ask for anything or money from old man.
2. Proceed with divorce which she will be entitled 50% of old man's asset and then she can choose to live life the way she wants in Singapore or Vietnam...
3. Continue life the way it is now with that miser old ugly dying man and keep complaining and be miserable.
You ask her to choose... and you will know what she is made of.
I am making the above comments in the fairest way I can.. with sufficient knowledge of the Vietnamese language, culture and experience.
Hey Bro, what can i say for your answer.
GOOD!
I'm not acting on my own but just my wife ask me to help her a bit. I not so free until put down my work just to help her. Here is Singapore, No WORK, NO MONEY. Then NO MONEY NO HONEY..
SingViet
15-05-2008, 05:27 PM
You think she got choice meh, her family poor, no money. No choice come here at least got someone to take care of her and her family a bit but end up in this situation.
Bro, i wish to know if your wife is a vietnamese. If vietnamese, how long have u been married to her? Have u stayed in Vietnam for a period of time to understand their culture? Yes, there may be a possibility that the old man is sick and terrible, but the chances of the viet gal doing things that led the man to lose his trust in her is even higher.
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:30 PM
The thing that is missing in their relationship is TRUST. Its either the husband is overly suspicios or the wife has not been giving the husband that she can be trusted. To be true, this is the main thing lacking in most Singapore - Vietnamese relationship. The reason is most vietnamese gals do a lot of things behind the back of Singapore. Not one or two, but there's a lot of Vietnamese ladies still in contact with their former bfs in vietnam even after they are married to Singaorean man and this is just one of the things they do behind their singaporean husband's back.
If you have been married long enuff to a Vietnamese lady and have stayed in vietnam with them for some time and also understand their culture, then you will be more willing to look at both side of the coin. It took me around 3 years and numerous incidents to trust my wife. to a large extend, many singaporean man do not even know that their vietnamese wife is doing a lot of things behind their back. but once they discover, the trust for their vietnamese wife will be gone. Trust is not given, it has to be earned.
You are very right, bro.. It also takes me a lot of time to trust my wife and my wife to trust me back..
Vietnam relationship is not an easy game to play.
It really takes a lot of hardship, time, effort and money to play..
But not only Viet ans Sing realtionship which i think, i would say all countries relationship also got their each individual problems.
Marshall JCM
15-05-2008, 05:36 PM
Just ask her go to make a police report or approach a lawyer for help on this matter
SingViet
15-05-2008, 05:40 PM
You are very right, bro.. It also takes me a lot of time to trust my wife and my wife to trust me back..
Vietnam relationship is not an easy game to play.
It really takes a lot of hardship, time, effort and money to play..
But not only Viet ans Sing realtionship which i think, i would say all countries relationship also got their each individual problems.
Let me relate a real life story of a vietnamese lady whom my wife met at the void deck of my block. The vietnamese lady stays in a rented room in the same block as my family. initially, the viet lady told my wife that her husband, who is is his mid-40s, is very stingy and treats her badly. So she is seperated from him and is asking for divorce. After a few meetings and she finally told my wife the real reason is that she wants to have the right to stay in Singapore for the longer period. So after she got PR, she decided to leave her husband as she wants to stay in singapore to earn money and also want to bring her Viet bf over to singapore too. This is a all too common game played by vietnamese ladies nowadays.
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:43 PM
Bro, i wish to know if your wife is a vietnamese. If vietnamese, how long have u been married to her? Have u stayed in Vietnam for a period of time to understand their culture? Yes, there may be a possibility that the old man is sick and terrible, but the chances of the viet gal doing things that led the man to lose his trust in her is even higher.
I've married for 2 years, i been to her hometown to stay before but not for long. Been there 2 times, each 1 week only.
The guys there is really hopeless, either jobless, living off woman, beating their wife etc..
And which i think Viet gals are more clever than the man because they will be learning more how to cheat other people's money and many more things.
Me and my wife always quarrel and till the verge of divorce, but only till when our little boy came out to this world, everything change to the better.
I've seen a lot of Viet/Sing couples in Singapore, I also know that some of them have their Viet bf or even Sing bf. I also know 1 of them which her wife got 2 or more bf though married and with children. There are too much examples out there..
If given a choice to me now, i would not chose to get married also. Marriage had really pull down my career whereas my career is going higher and higher. Family commitment in terms of time and money really made me exhausted.
Where still got so much time to help people? Just that i've promise my wife that if i've the time, i try to find out how to help her friend a bit lor. But if really ask me to put in time to help. Who would help my financials if just because i help people and made myself into financial crisis. I still have to run my business.
I bet a lots of Viet/Sing Couples is facing a lots of problems also. My wife's friend is also filing for divorce. So sad whereas their son just pass 1 year old. The most pitiful one is still children.
So guys, please play safely!! haha
X_plorer
15-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Let me relate a real life story of a vietnamese lady whom my wife met at the void deck of my block. The vietnamese lady stays in a rented room in the same block as my family. initially, the viet lady told my wife that her husband, who is is his mid-40s, is very stingy and treats her badly. So she is seperated from him and is asking for divorce. After a few meetings and she finally told my wife the real reason is that she wants to have the right to stay in Singapore for the longer period. So after she got PR, she decided to leave her husband as she wants to stay in singapore to earn money and also want to bring her Viet bf over to singapore too. This is a all too common game played by vietnamese ladies nowadays.
My wife's friend didn't even apply for a PR, but she wanted to get a divorce now, only dun have the vitamin M to apply.
I would just tell my wife which bro deptrai4u said. The 3 choices for her and that's the end of my part. I wouldn't want to get involve too much time into their problems..
bigass
15-05-2008, 09:19 PM
i think can ask her to leave him lah. nb until likdat if he died, he oso wun leave a single cts for her.
vein1234
16-05-2008, 01:28 AM
To me, I think that it is not so simple to pass a judgment that says He is BAD and SHE is the VICTIM.
In the very first place, nobody force her to marry an ugly old man. Is also her negligence for not conducting sufficient due diligence before signing the contract if all the above is true. But if she was really in a hurry to marry this old rich ugly dying man and jump into it without much consideration, then think of what kind of situation she is in before she married that old ugly dying man.
Next, you need to also know what has she done before that makes him not trust her. This young girl may have other young bf that this old man knows about. Imagine if you are that old man, you will be quite generous if you had even let her go out with her friend and have some time on her own.
S$50 per day... her conditions previously in Vietnam could be a S$50 per week if she is lucky, otherwise S$50 per 2 weeks is more likely the case.
Eating crab... if she has all the rice, meat and vege to eat to her heart's content but crab is just not part of the deal.. then that old man must be quite a miser, however it not a crime being a miser. But think of it this way.. old man must have thought that she is not worth investing so much money for some good reasons that he has. It is therefore her job to work into the trust of her old man and convince him to give her more luxury. Most old man at 60 have been thru life and can usually see more in life than just money. They usually have a plan or a reason to behave in such a manner.
Many viet woman who marries a viet man, eventually also ended up divorce becos the men they married simply is a useless bump who does not work, take drugs, feed on wife's money and squandered on other girls.... Many viet woman who married China men or Taiwan men, ended up going back with them and working in the farm and at night the brothers, uncles etc take turns to sleep with her... she is much better off staying in vietnam. Your wife (I guess is also a viet) whom you marry and whom you treated her very well, is very lucky woman and she really have to thanks her lucky stars for you. But that does NOT entitle her friend to have the same good fate! Life is unfair, right from the moment you were born. And there is just nothing we can do about it but live with it and make the best out of it.
Finally, as you can think she is pitiful... does she really needs your help in any way? or are you just acting without her consent? If she really wants your help or anyone's help to get out of the situation, then its simple.. ask her to choose 1 of the following:
1. Leave him and go back to where she came from exactly the same way she was before and not ask for anything or money from old man.
2. Proceed with divorce which she will be entitled 50% of old man's asset and then she can choose to live life the way she wants in Singapore or Vietnam...
3. Continue life the way it is now with that miser old ugly dying man and keep complaining and be miserable.
You ask her to choose... and you will know what she is made of.
I am making the above comments in the fairest way I can.. with sufficient knowledge of the Vietnamese language, culture and experience.
very agreed to what you describe above even myself cun afford to buy crads for myself to eat and getting $50 dollar a day is way much more better than other, i guess she not that pity after all, no offend just share some views.
SingViet
16-05-2008, 06:56 AM
I've married for 2 years, i been to her hometown to stay before but not for long. Been there 2 times, each 1 week only.
The guys there is really hopeless, either jobless, living off woman, beating their wife etc..
And which i think Viet gals are more clever than the man because they will be learning more how to cheat other people's money and many more things.
Me and my wife always quarrel and till the verge of divorce, but only till when our little boy came out to this world, everything change to the better.
I've seen a lot of Viet/Sing couples in Singapore, I also know that some of them have their Viet bf or even Sing bf. I also know 1 of them which her wife got 2 or more bf though married and with children. There are too much examples out there..
If given a choice to me now, i would not chose to get married also. Marriage had really pull down my career whereas my career is going higher and higher. Family commitment in terms of time and money really made me exhausted.
Where still got so much time to help people? Just that i've promise my wife that if i've the time, i try to find out how to help her friend a bit lor. But if really ask me to put in time to help. Who would help my financials if just because i help people and made myself into financial crisis. I still have to run my business.
I bet a lots of Viet/Sing Couples is facing a lots of problems also. My wife's friend is also filing for divorce. So sad whereas their son just pass 1 year old. The most pitiful one is still children.
So guys, please play safely!! haha
Looking back, if given the chance again, i may not marry a vietnamese at all. It took me more than US$20,000, time of 12 months, and more than 50 times of travelling between HCMC and my wife's province to get the marriage certificate. After that, it took another 6 months to settle the singapore side. All these was because of a complicated background of my wife and her greedy mother. Many times, my wife and I argued till we really want to be seperated. Its the thought of my twin daughters that made me stay on and endure. 5 years on, i am glad that my wife has changed and has become understanding of the whole situation ever since she came back with me to Singapore in mid-2006.
So bros, do think twice about marrying a vietnamese. Its not as simple as u think.
pussyman72
16-05-2008, 08:05 AM
just one word of advice. People family problem better dont get involve. It not your problem at all. not we are scare or what.
This is husband n wife problem. i believe if u have problem with ur wife u dont wish pple to interface with ur family problem right.
machoman
16-05-2008, 08:30 AM
To me, I think that it is not so simple to pass a judgment that says He is BAD and SHE is the VICTIM.
............
Finally, as you can think she is pitiful... does she really needs your help in any way? or are you just acting without her consent? If she really wants your help or anyone's help to get out of the situation, then its simple.. ask her to choose 1 of the following:
1. Leave him and go back to where she came from exactly the same way she was before and not ask for anything or money from old man.
2. Proceed with divorce which she will be entitled 50% of old man's asset and then she can choose to live life the way she wants in Singapore or Vietnam...
3. Continue life the way it is now with that miser old ugly dying man and keep complaining and be miserable.
You ask her to choose... and you will know what she is made of.
I am making the above comments in the fairest way I can.. with sufficient knowledge of the Vietnamese language, culture and experience.
Great post. :p
Absolutely agree with your sensible comments & advice. :D
X_plorer
16-05-2008, 10:52 AM
very agreed to what you describe above even myself cun afford to buy crads for myself to eat and getting $50 dollar a day is way much more better than other, i guess she not that pity after all, no offend just share some views.
My wife just told me, the $50 everyday is not from him, but from other stall owners which he bring her to go there work. So that means he is giving her $800 per 30 days stay in Singapore only, if she happens to go back to Vietnam in the mid of the days, then the money would be forfeited, the money included her own expenses. So if she dun work, i think would be dead end for her. And she only work on weekdays and sometimes off, if I'm not wrong, should be working at a school canteen, so during school holidays, no income at all..
In Singapore here, i know there are people can't even afford to eat seafood or spent normally without stress. But if you are getting married, having a family, as a guy, you must take up the responsibilty to take care of your family. If not, must well dun get married. Be more stable in your career 1st before others come in. I also come from not a well to do family, and I'm not highly educated also. I also fight through my career life, and able to support my family. It will all depends on individual that the person will work hard or not, and progress in their work ability..
Average income for a Family/Individual in Singapore is ranging from $2000 plus to $4000. With that amount monthly, some might not be enough, but some is already very satisfied with it.
X_plorer
16-05-2008, 11:01 AM
Looking back, if given the chance again, i may not marry a vietnamese at all. It took me more than US$20,000, time of 12 months, and more than 50 times of travelling between HCMC and my wife's province to get the marriage certificate. After that, it took another 6 months to settle the singapore side. All these was because of a complicated background of my wife and her greedy mother. Many times, my wife and I argued till we really want to be seperated. Its the thought of my twin daughters that made me stay on and endure. 5 years on, i am glad that my wife has changed and has become understanding of the whole situation ever since she came back with me to Singapore in mid-2006.
So bros, do think twice about marrying a vietnamese. Its not as simple as u think.
Hey Bro, me and you are almost in the same boat. Mine also because of my son, in which when i look around at my wife's friends who is married to Singapore also. I think I'm very good already, able to give her what she wants, which is affordable to me, supporting her family all these years. So what's there to complain? Some of the people in Singapore may not even lead a good life as her now..
Everyday work so hard, stress for my business. What can i get back in the end? If were to support her family all the way, and helping them periodically which i think all bros who have Viet wifes will confirm encounter, her family own people money, family sick need money etc..
I can only know 1 thing, if i were to know this before i married, i think that would be a totally different story. Maybe i have excel in my career life even further.
To all bros, please dun treat your marriage like a game. Especially you do not know your partner much..
Loving 1 person and living together is a toally different thing in real life..
Skyjacker
16-05-2008, 03:10 PM
Kns...this old man too mush liao.
maid work here also got pay.
some more his own wife mah:(
X_plorer
17-05-2008, 07:51 AM
Kns...this old man too mush liao.
maid work here also got pay.
some more his own wife mah:(
Yeh Bro, this is what i think in the initial stage.
X_plorer
03-11-2008, 08:08 AM
Finally after so long..
During this period of time, get to know this old man. He is really what the gal describe, he really sucks.. Irritating, is the words i can describe..
Here comes the happiest part, got him to change car and earn a bit money out from there.. Though it is not a lot, but definately he bought his car more expensive than mine though we had the same new car.
Even the car salesman also cannot tahan him, he is damn cannot make it type and irritating somemore..
The gal already went back to Vietnam, and she had vioce out that she would be coming back without letting the old man knows about it and find a new guy or maybe into a working gal if no choice, rather than to stick with him..
Hope the best to that gal..
But now the problem is how is she going to divorce later and re married again? Just my thinking... Not my problem anymore...
Better spend more time on my business as the economy now is so bad now, and my sales had drop a lot.. Or maybe just close shop for a period of time before contining, haha!! Have a short break!! Have a kit kat!!
huanggua
03-11-2008, 10:27 AM
since this has nothing to do with sex I dont think this is a proper forum to discuss this issue. Anyway there are alot of people in the same boat. Its really difficult to want to help everyone.
pewpew
03-11-2008, 10:47 AM
Average income for a Family/Individual in Singapore is ranging from $2000 plus to $4000. With that amount monthly, some might not be enough, but some is already very satisfied with it.
Average income for Singaporean is around S$ 1000.00 (clerk) till S$ 3000.00 (Management).
Daily pay around S$ 50.00 - 80.00.
Provided she works at S$ 50.00/Day, its kinda average comparing to a Singaporean. (In Vietnam, you only earns aronud S$ 300.00/Month (Office))
Marrying a guy 40 years older than you is already some trick you have set inorder to gain what you want eventually.
Maybe the hubby knows that the Viet girl's motive? (Divorce after certain time inorder to gain PR? Thats the only reason you will marry a 60 years old)
Maybe its their deal before they have the marriage?
Anyway, it take 2 hands to clap, she accepted marriage so she have to endure, meanwhile, can just file police report if violent involved in the family :cool:
qwerty66
03-11-2008, 11:50 AM
read with great intrest this post on how 'pitiful' the gal was mention.
Ah....the story sound so familiar
Its the chinese gal story all over again, only change of gal from another third world country :rolleyes:
Advice to all bro. is not to apply PR status for them too soon. They are so ready to jump ship as usual.
X_plorer
04-11-2008, 06:11 PM
Average income for Singaporean is around S$ 1000.00 (clerk) till S$ 3000.00 (Management).
Daily pay around S$ 50.00 - 80.00.
Provided she works at S$ 50.00/Day, its kinda average comparing to a Singaporean. (In Vietnam, you only earns aronud S$ 300.00/Month (Office))
Marrying a guy 40 years older than you is already some trick you have set inorder to gain what you want eventually.
Maybe the hubby knows that the Viet girl's motive? (Divorce after certain time inorder to gain PR? Thats the only reason you will marry a 60 years old)
Maybe its their deal before they have the marriage?
Anyway, it take 2 hands to clap, she accepted marriage so she have to endure, meanwhile, can just file police report if violent involved in the family :cool:
For your info from Singapore Survey:
About 900,000 people in Singapore earning less than $2,500/month. And the average for the overall for all Singaporean is around $3k plus per month. So, i can say anyone earning less than $3k can be consider below average.
I'm not being sarcastic but it is the real fact. If a person were to earn $3k/month. Will he/she be able to pay his/her car loan/housing loan or other commitment?
If our bros is earning $1k/month, who will be able to book for cat150 or even more ex cat.. Even budget bonk also cost at least $50, so have to work for how many days in order just to have a bonk. And if it is a cannot make it 1, so have to go home and cry liao lor..
If 1 person work hard and work smart, would him/her be earning only $1k/month, unless just working for fun and not for money..
But anyway, end of the pitiful gal issue.. As her case is closed..
We, the bros of SBF, would still adopt the Fuck and Forget style for our bonking session. Not to involve into a deep relationship, so as to bonk as many as we could as long as we live.. Haha..
Anyone agreed?
Bigbluebird
04-11-2008, 07:06 PM
There are so many stories of men being taken for a ride and swindled by women, it's therefore great to hear about a woman on the receiving end for a change.
This 60 year old uncle is doing Singapore proud. I congratulate him for showing his wife who is the boss!:D
I never liked your postings all along but this one changed my mind! :D
X_plorer
05-11-2008, 07:29 AM
I never liked your postings all along but this one changed my mind! :D
Thanks for your change of view..Upz you liao..
X_plorer
05-11-2008, 07:30 AM
I never liked your postings all along but this one changed my mind! :D
That's good for your change of mind...
ah rat
05-11-2008, 07:40 AM
There are so many stories of men being taken for a ride and swindled by women, it's therefore great to hear about a woman on the receiving end for a change.
This 60 year old uncle is doing Singapore proud. I congratulate him for showing his wife who is the boss!:D
This uncle is the first to praise by U :D
sean69
05-11-2008, 10:11 AM
geez.. i might be called a heartless bastard .. but seriously.. why the heck do u want to get involved in other pple's marital problem???!!!!
DTCEPL
05-11-2008, 12:15 PM
geez.. i might be called a heartless bastard .. but seriously.. why the heck do u want to get involved in other pple's marital problem???!!!!
Yeah man, Seannie is rite....why get involved in other's marital problems, which is personal and no outsiders should interfere. Both parties got a valid reason to get married, one old and one young, the reason is quite obvious - because of 'LOVEEEEEEEE':D, but they each make a decision, they got to be responsible for their actions. Even in a divorce, let them decide on their own, they don't need another party to complicate matters.
By the way....long time no c Seannie......:p
sean69
05-11-2008, 03:16 PM
By the way....long time no c Seannie......:p
knn.. seanie me again!!!! ... ha ha.. long time no see too... have been out of action for quite sometime already... nowaday feels like a stranger in chatroom too...
how's life??
Frankiestine
05-11-2008, 04:27 PM
she wants a quick solution? then get some one to bump off the old man and she can inherit every single cents of his...then she wouldn't be pitiful anymore..
X_plorer
06-11-2008, 07:47 AM
Good Solution!! Ask him go to Indonesia or Malaysia then bump him off.. haha..
X_plorer
06-11-2008, 07:49 AM
Who the fuck zap me again? Leave down your nick.. Got nothing better to do than to zap people... Here is a forum to people to chat and talk cock, not for you to zap people...
DTCEPL
06-11-2008, 08:32 AM
knn.. seanie me again!!!! ... ha ha.. long time no see too... have been out of action for quite sometime already... nowaday feels like a stranger in chatroom too...
how's life??
You are my one and only Seannieeeee :p ....din chat for almost 2 years liao....kind of miss the chat room kakis.....
Nowadays I just log in and out of the chat room in less than 30 seconds.....:o
Life is bad for me in 2007.....Year of the Rat.....lost my job, 2 years long relationship goned (she left me).....:( but I am ok now, back on my feet with a much better job and waiting for you to intro a Gal to me;)
sean69
06-11-2008, 09:55 AM
Life is bad for me in 2007.....Year of the Rat.....lost my job, 2 years long relationship goned (she left me).....:( but I am ok now, back on my feet with a much better job and waiting for you to intro a Gal to me;)
man... at least u are doing better now (except for the Gal part :) ) ... i'm going to lose my job end of the year.. my boss already gives me heads up that i will be retrenched... :(
now have to eat grass liao... job market so tight somemore... sigh...
btw.. will we get zapped for TCSS here?? guess we are hijacking pple's thread... ha ha ha..
sexgarden
06-11-2008, 12:11 PM
man... at least u are doing better now (except for the Gal part :) ) ... i'm going to lose my job end of the year.. my boss already gives me heads up that i will be retrenched... :(
now have to eat grass liao... job market so tight somemore... sigh...
btw.. will we get zapped for TCSS here?? guess we are hijacking pple's thread... ha ha ha..
you gotta start saving and planning
recession hit us bad :(
DTCEPL
06-11-2008, 12:27 PM
man... at least u are doing better now (except for the Gal part :) ) ... i'm going to lose my job end of the year.. my boss already gives me heads up that i will be retrenched... :(
btw.. will we get zapped for TCSS here?? guess we are hijacking pple's thread... ha ha ha..
Zapped.......I hope not......TS won't mind abit for old Kakis to catch up abit lah....TS hor???;)
Start looking out for a new job Seannie, I was also asked to leave my position due to high level Corporate politics. Job market is bad, maybe you should try the food or FMCG industry which is sort of recession proof or so to say. Try to avoid construction and property companies, semi-conductor and investment banks - industry that I felt the worst hit.
sean69
07-11-2008, 09:01 AM
Start looking out for a new job Seannie, I was also asked to leave my position due to high level Corporate politics. Job market is bad, maybe you should try the food or FMCG industry which is sort of recession proof or so to say. Try to avoid construction and property companies, semi-conductor and investment banks - industry that I felt the worst hit.
bro... u damn chun!!! i'm currently in the semicon industry!! ... really phui phui phui..
if i still young and no commitment, still ok.. but with wife and kid, need to pay mortage and car loan.. going to be tough man... somemore almost 40 already, how to look for job??..... sigh.. maybe need to sell my car... anyway.. now looking for jobs and cutting down on spendings...
insomia
07-11-2008, 11:50 PM
just my 5 cents advices. if this is the true facts that TS describe then you and your wife can bring your friend to vienam embassy to lodge a report and ask for assistances.
however, if there is no physical abuses by the husband you cannot file for a divorce as this is not ill treatment. maybe the husband is not well off to give her a luxury life in singapore.
next, if you wife's friend is persistent in getting a divorce, is she ready to give up her PR citizenship in singapore? and also all in all, no physical abuse by the husband i personally think getting divorced is a waste of time.
if your wife's friend really decided to leave this old man then she can buy a ticket and leave the home and go back to vietnam first. if the man refused to let her leave and confine her then she can make a police report.
this is only my advices which may not be applicable to the situation TS had described. thanks
This is a true fact, which happens few days ago. I was very very fed up, so i post this tread and ask for help for this Vietnam Lady who is a friend of my wife's.
My wife just brought me to see her friend last Sunday, there is this uncle who married my wife's friend last year. Which i thought my wife is blowing up the story only when i feel it myself, the gal went out with us for a meal together, then to catch up for a while with my wife, but her husband call up and ask where we are, then also ask for my wife's contact.
But here comes the trouble, he call around 10 min later asking where we are going, and ask a lots of question, going where, going to do what, etc..., then after 20 min, he called again, asking where is our exact location, what time coming back etc... then another 10 min called again, asking where is the exact location again, and another 10 min call again, which i n my wife dun even bother to ans, when total to 23 missed call from my mobile, dun how many missed call from her wife's mobile.
But that's not the worst, he calculate even a single cent with his wife that going here and there, like petrol cost to go here and there to eat, so expensive, how much it cost, then eat seafood expensive...etc. I can't even imagine, her wife requested just to eat 2 crab, and my wife told me that the husband didn't even buy for her to eat just because expensive, come on, how expensive is that?
And even she wanted to buy chat chat card to call back to Vietnam, she have to pay for herself.
Here comes the most annoying part. The husband will only give her household allowance after every 30 days in Singapore and will only give 10 days upon reaching 30 days, and she is suppose to work with him from morning 6am to 6pm giving her $50 daily only after work, only food, the husband will pay for her, but all the other things which the wife's need or other things, she would have to pay for herself. I even heard that her husband got a son and a daughter already, but only the son is staying with him. But he even collect rental from his son just because he is staying with him.
The gal told my wife that her husband change totally after marriage from day 1. Which i think, who can endure this type of treatment, is she his wife, or just treating her like a overnight booking working whore?
This uncle is a 60 plus old uncle and the gal is just 20 plus.. And he didn't even give a single cent to her family when married. He is such a miser till who can tolerate this kind of person and act. He is not poor, i seen his car, he can buy a korean car at around $70plus k and fully paid, and wanted to change car in a few months time, and his house also fully paid. But he can be so bastard..
So anyone can figure out who can help the gal to divorce the husband? But the issue is the gal do not have money to pay for the lawyer, but the husband would not file for divorce and pay for the fees neither.
If any bros here wants to know the address of this bastard son of a bitch, i can even find out. I only know he lives at AMK, Blk 547 or 5**, can't remember well, on the second level.
Any comments on this type of people?
X_plorer
14-11-2008, 05:04 PM
No problem but hi jacking my thread here.. Anyway.. TCSS is another way of relaxing sia...
Being retrenched is not the end of the day, but the start of another journey. The journey might be of humps, but it might be even smoother.. Life still have to goes on.. Strive when you can, work hard, but play even more hard..
That is why SBF is one of the ways to destress and enjoy..
X_plorer
14-11-2008, 05:08 PM
just my 5 cents advices. if this is the true facts that TS describe then you and your wife can bring your friend to vienam embassy to lodge a report and ask for assistances.
however, if there is no physical abuses by the husband you cannot file for a divorce as this is not ill treatment. maybe the husband is not well off to give her a luxury life in singapore.
next, if you wife's friend is persistent in getting a divorce, is she ready to give up her PR citizenship in singapore? and also all in all, no physical abuse by the husband i personally think getting divorced is a waste of time.
if your wife's friend really decided to leave this old man then she can buy a ticket and leave the home and go back to vietnam first. if the man refused to let her leave and confine her then she can make a police report.
this is only my advices which may not be applicable to the situation TS had described. thanks
Thanks Bro for your advice.. Any way, the case is closed, she have gone back to Vietnam and would be coming back soon but without the acknowledgement of the old man, but with the intention of finding another man who can take care of her before settling with the marriage now..
Not my issue liao..
Just helping my wife to ask as she keeps asking me to help her if possible..
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