Close to 2 years since I go massage locally, didn't know prices inflate so much

[Chewwsy]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

[Marq]

Lesson here is, do not ever be talked/forced into whatever kidney/prostrate bs thingy. It either the basic $50/60 package or non. Take it or leave it

[bignehneh]

Lesson here is, do not ever be talked/forced into whatever kidney/prostrate bs thingy. It either the basic $50/60 package or non. Take it or leave it

Yeah…lol. They usually carrot ppl

[Kokoro111]

This is not acceptable. Totally con ppl.
Basically you can choose to walk away because tips is not a fixed amount. Put down a blue note is already settled. Nowadays with $100 massage service should included happy ending.

[lovetocum]

Since it's so chop carrot, can you indicate which spa u went or put spa name in asterisk so bros here know which spa to avoid. Many thanks, bro.

Just a tip, avoid those spa that charge minimum $88, those are the so called prostate places to chop people of their hard earned money.

[kkevinn6]

tell us the name of spa so we can avoid!

[bonk69]

Why so many bad fishes?
Avoid at all times but how you manage to stop/lun 1 year not to go to massage parlour OMG! Can I learn from u? I usually tell myself go monthly but end up very frequent visit
:(
But recently I also encountered the same con style. So quitting in my conscious mind but evil in my sub conscious always win

[deadmaninc75]

exact location can blacklist them

[Dddnoob]

Spa 9 holland?

[Reviewer123456]

Indeed a carrot head

[str33thawk]

The name of the Spa is very obvious after the clear hints OP mentioned.. I always had doubt on this Spa after all the glamourous looking ML photos advertised. I knew this is a booby trap shop.

[siamkia49]

...and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

Sounds like a way to quit...
The spa at NUCR?

[cwolf78]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

Sounds like you got into a black shop and kenna conned. The market has not moved that much. Certainly $58 + $50 service is very common all over and is still the market rate. You were too soft on them and they figured out they can push you around with carrot rates. They smelled the uncertainty and fear in you and took advantage. Never be afraid to stand your ground since they should be the ones fearing arrest not you.

[merc88]

bedok area?

[abcchinese8inch]

Wa bro u still allow ML go ATM with u. Threaten them call police lah. Sure let you leave. Not like u going to return anyway.

[Zek85]

Carrot shop... should not succumb on the tips, just say only got $50 if cannot then call police settle.

Usually if you take the $58 then they don't offer you additional services that's why push for $88 package.
A lot of $88 shops, just avoid them.

$189 you can get a FJ liao.

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

[ladyassasinato]

As I mentioned before, how can a syt n an old milf charge the same for entrance fee.

If go for solid massage still ok. But by sending an old milf to do the P massage for you is consider cheating liao. 😏

[y&gblf]

I've also blacklisted this spa after a visit few months ago. The therapist I had was nice but I hate the way they hard sell the $88 package.

[Rally]

Not only have prices go up. The playability of the gals are also limited now. Most would at most allow u to auto roaming with clothes on, or worse need to top up for auto roaming.. gone were the days like the old hc scene where the gals just strip all naked and the action begin. Sadly I think the chiong scene in sg have gone worse as years goes by. And worst of all geyland still can't open. Sad.

[Xgenre]

She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.

After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao.

And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.

The manager is right. You are a bit weird leh. :p After someone talk like this to you, you still stand there for 5 minutes to consider ah? Most of us will walk out. It's not as if they are the only spa left in Singapore.

As for the ML, if she is not happy, ask her to call the police lah. Tell the police you shortchange her on HJ fees.

You kenna makan left right and centre. Since you can write a FR in SBF, next time read the threads in SBF for safe and recommended spas better. Anyway, glad it's an issue money can solve. At least did not alert the wife in anyway. It's a good learning experience.

[soonbeng]

I feel that nowadays we have more to lose. If the ML is bad, we are all paying $200 ($50+$$150), for bad service. Last few MLs left me feeling angry after their bad service on me. They were not in the East side.

[qwertyasdfman]

autoroam & h~j 50 is max.

[Peacekeeping]

Next time tell them you are member of sammyboyforum. If they want to be unreasonable then you will blacklist the shop and warn bros not to visit them. This is our country and they want to make money here better follow our rules. We don’t pay money to get bullied.

[subidowa]

U all got urself to blame. Especially the thread starter. U are such a pussy to give in so easily. Is because of guys like u, thus, they keep on inflating the prices. Give in once they think is ok and is a normal. Next time they ask for $500 u give in and the tip becomes $500.

Such a pussy, if you don't like the girl nor the massage just end it and get back the money pro rated. I did ever reject massage once I see the girl assigned is not to my preference. Another time I just walk out halfway or almost ending the massage cause the whole session is terrible. Didn't even bother to talk about tips cause my face very black already.

If they ask for tips above what you want to give then you report them. Tips are given or offered as kind gesture not dictated. Are they even allow to do this legally or did they wear mask while massaging you? Come on this is your country and u let them bully u. Just report them and threaten to send them home or jail with heavy fines. In fact you all should even reverse threaten them if they ever ask u want special or not. Say you want to report them to police cause they bring this up and this is illegal unless they give u free service then u forgive them hehe.

I really pity u all. Look at how much are u all earning only. Did your salary increase higher and faster than the inflation? Did your pay raise as much as the tips raise in terms of percentage? Did you even still get full pay or full bonus? Some maybe not affected but I bet a lot bros are affected. Look at you all, are you all in a good situation now? The companies or bosses deduct you pay and bonus a bit to survive for all you all complain a lot make your presence felt. The massage ladies bully you all and increase 2-3 times fold and you all willingly quietly give. Who can you blame.

[lawrene]

I feel your pain. I used to behave like you too. My ego don't allow me to lose face in front of the ML. Don't want to let them feel i no money to play. This is a learning process that need to pay abit of school fee.
This Bedok south spa, I tried 2 times.
The first time before Covid time, the rate still ok. Then things got worse, the ML insisted no touch for special and i totally rejected her...and that is the last time i go back to the shop.

[subidowa]

autoroam & h~j 50 is max.

Yeah i agree. If they offer, tell them this is your rate, if they reject is fine. Since you also never get your HJ just report to police of this offering. It is illegal to offer HJ in Singapore. Let them know we have our limits too and this is the market rate we set in OUR COUNTRY. They want to continue have food and live here stick with our rates if not we let each and every one of these shops close one by one. Also per hour rate massage is $58 at most. If they introduce what special massage then just walk off.

Respect urself bros. You are the one paying the money why like they have to pity you to give you service. You should demand this and that as a customer behave like a customer.

[handcell]

I feel if ur married, u wont want to get the police involved. If money can solved a problem, then is no problem. Hope this is a good lesson learnt.

[subidowa]

When it comes to massage/fk, customer is always at losing end.

You are the one who pays the $$, you are the one who doesn't get the better service.

ML gets $$ at end of day.

U have to see who dares to play bigger and who will be the worst hit to say who is at the losing end.

For someone who is single, with nothing to lose and local. He does not have much concern. For the massage ladies, they have to worry about their working permit etc right. The shop under investigation will have to stop operating right. So who is to lose more? Not necessary police will do anything but a report is a report. If the statistic pile up, they also cannot don't do anything.

I assume before you pass them the money, it is still under your control right. If the service not good deduct and don't ask why. If the massage ladies feel lose they can go try report police lo. When comes to this, the shop owner will tell the massage ladies to suay la. Don't risk the operation. Not say you all didn't give any tips is they are greedy. Trust me, they won't risk it if they are happy already. They will not risk it for not getting what they trying to cut extra carrot out from my poor fellow bros.

[candeo_88]

Ganna snapped at already a mood killa and a bad start and yet you proceeded...any bro with right frame of mind would have already keblakang pusing...I know i would...

So it is what it is and your child/wife/parents have $189 lesser ang pow money this year.....:D:cool:

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.

Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

[candeo_88]

For $189, 2 FJ at JSP/PPC and one nice meal...:D:cool::D

Carrot shop... should not succumb on the tips, just say only got $50 if cannot then call police settle.

Usually if you take the $58 then they don't offer you additional services that's why push for $88 package.
A lot of $88 shops, just avoid them.

$189 you can get a FJ liao.

[abcchinese8inch]

I feel if ur married, u wont want to get the police involved. If money can solved a problem, then is no problem. Hope this is a good lesson learnt.

Regardless married or not married. Just bring police issue up. No ML in the right mind dare risk getting send back or worst,maybe jail time.

I know quite a few cases chiongster not happy with certain ML go report. Once I even witness raid session. Literally arrive at the shop same time as anti-vice. Heng heng I no enter shop. Go direct opposite coffeeshop watch free show. Appx 1hour later nothing happen and the particular ML rtc shortly due to the exposure she receive. (Quite sad leh. Just visit her 2 time. Havent piakpiak her then rtc liao :()

So end of day. We (Customer) still have the authority to make or break ML career in Singapore. Depend on whether you want or not.

[Xgenre]

I think we are one of the really few countries that has 大妈按摩。Most PRC milfs will be jobless in China for massage with HJs . They have endless supply of SYTs after all

[absurdit]

Is it one on the changi road ? I have blacklisted all MP in chang rd, bedok north & south ...

I think more we push MLs to law/conflict, they will evolve to newer ways talk to vulnerable little heads🤣.

It is customer's virtue to learn, reflect and gain defence against oldest profession🤪

[weisheme]

Is it one on the changi road ? I have blacklisted all MP in chang rd, bedok north & south ...

I think more we push MLs to law/conflict, they will evolve to newer ways talk to vulnerable little heads🤣.

It is customer's virtue to learn, reflect and gain defence against oldest profession🤪

:confused:.. I go frequently to that area for good, hard and clean massage.

[tropiccana]

ya...good old days no more

:confused:.. I go frequently to that area for good, hard and clean massage.

[candeo_88]

Well, think of the bright side, at least we still get to get some decent massage with our hard earned money...

Anything extra is a bonus...:D:cool:

ya...good old days no more

[Just2910]

I tried once there. Didn't know was a 88 joint only after reading up here on what is 50 and 88. The first time i went choose for the 58, but recep and ml did ask me to top up to 88 which i kindly reject (didn't know need it to unlock gq). Thus, no GQ 😅.

[Kokoro111]

The start package should be $50 at counter for 1 hr massage. Then during massage you can get hj at 50, or maybe bj at 100. Massage + bj should not exceed 100 unless it is a very high class massage shop.

[Xgenre]

Massage + bj should not exceed 100 unless it is a very high class massage shop.

It's easy to type out what should happen at what prices. However, generally people who type out such pricing don't share which MP they get such great deals at. So where do you get 1 hour of massage plus BJ for a total of $100?

There was another BIG Canon here who says he can get 1 hour of massage and HJ at $50. HJ price included in hourly massage fee. Yet to see where this MP is after all these years

[skihon]

Just take note, as long as is charging $88/$89 dont agree to proceed. If is $50/58, you have 50/50% chance they charge you for 1 blue note.

[loneyheart]

Year 2022 liao
We should start posting out openly those shop name with overcharging non svc rate :)
Set our own market rate pls

[Topshag33]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

Hahaha land of dragon. Yea bro..this type of place cut off people head one..

[ImBondJBond]

Haha... What a thread!

No offense but Dear TS asks the question of why prices inflated while being a big carrot head himself, inflating the price...

Clearly, there are many experienced cheongsters here who knows the DOs and DONTs and many are noobie, has no gutts or just have too much money and dont care...

Here are some simple things to remember:

1. Do not pay more than $60 for massage: if ML wants extra money she will pop GQ anyway. If the policy of the shop prevents extras without paying extra upfront ($88 or whatever) that shop to be avoided anyway --> can change business model or go bankrupt ;)

2. They say traditional massage is only upper body (RED FLAG!): turn around and leave, go to another place where traditional massage is good, hard, full body massage for same price

3. You get different ML that you requested: just turn around and leave... Unless you like the new girl. I was already after shower, naked on the massage table when different girl came in... I said, no thank you, I will come back when the other lady will be free.

4. ML ask payment before performing extra service (RED FLAG!): for FL maybe OK but not for ML. You pay and you face all restrictions: no touching, full mechanical hj :o

5. Do clarify clearly the price and all services included in the extra service: better for you and for the ML, you both know what to expect, what you pay for.

6.. I cannot tell you not to tip her on top of the agreed price but I think of ML receive consistently additional tips she might just increase prices because customers are full of money. You can gift her kindness and respect instead of more money, that also goes a long way.

7. Market price for a good hj included touching is $50 (only top but that's skin to skin or maybe south as well outside or inside... Or all the way inside ;)) : you might pay more, thats on you... I think we go to different places :), rarely I pay 50+ but I don't return for those, if I pay 70-80 it is full roaming with extras like finger or frenching... Never pay 100... Think this way: 50+100 is already 150 which is fj price (no massage)

They all know thay are playing a trick on you and ready to be rejected but they try their luck on gullible guys.

[afterburn]

Just go tuina shops in neighborhood. Won't get carroted. But then don't complain ml not syt :D

[tropiccana]

support support!!!!

Year 2022 liao
We should start posting out openly those shop name with overcharging non svc rate :)
Set our own market rate pls

[candeo_88]

You forgot to mention =>....Just turn around and walk away...No one owes them a living...

:D:cool:

Haha... What a thread!

They all know thay are playing a trick on you and ready to be rejected but they try their luck on gullible guys.

[subidowa]

Just take note, as long as is charging $88/$89 dont agree to proceed. If is $50/58, you have 50/50% chance they charge you for 1 blue note.

Yeah agree with this.

[subidowa]

Regardless married or not married. Just bring police issue up. No ML in the right mind dare risk getting send back or worst,maybe jail time.

I know quite a few cases chiongster not happy with certain ML go report. Once I even witness raid session. Literally arrive at the shop same time as anti-vice. Heng heng I no enter shop. Go direct opposite coffeeshop watch free show. Appx 1hour later nothing happen and the particular ML rtc shortly due to the exposure she receive. (Quite sad leh. Just visit her 2 time. Havent piakpiak her then rtc liao :()

So end of day. We (Customer) still have the authority to make or break ML career in Singapore. Depend on whether you want or not.

Yes. We should all list out all the lousy ones and report them. These shops and MLs are better off our country and not leech on my fellow bros. Let those that really want to service us stay. They have to earn the rights to service us in order for us to let them continue earn their livings in SG...

Bros respect urself. This is our country, don't be carrot chop by these foreigners and bully into paying ridiculous price. In their own country, u see they dare to do such thing or not. I think not only don't dare, their country living standard also cannot let their people afford to pay like us RICH Singaporean. SO bros respect urself. Please get what you deserve for paying. Don't let these cheap sluts MLs short change you all by giving substandard service and charging u very high. They don't even do that to their own countryman and they do that to u all in your country? What is the respect u all deserve?

[subidowa]

I think we are one of the really few countries that has 大妈按摩。Most PRC milfs will be jobless in China for massage with HJs . They have endless supply of SYTs after all

Yes, that is what I want to tell the bros here. Do not short change urself. Please get what u are paying for. In their own country, this kind of auntie standard will not even get a good price. Their SYT also do not dare to charge ridiculous price while providing excellent service. If not their Chinaman might even scold them and wack them on the spot. Their business owner will also wack them too. Only in Singapore can our KIND, GENTLE and RICH bros pay so much more and ridiculous pricing and let these aunties short change my bros. They not only not up to the standard in terms of looks and they also cannot be bothered with providing up to par service. They insult bros who already paying enough and keep on leeching on our bros kindness. Please bros wake up. Send them home, those bad ones.

[LoveOrSex]

Once upon a time, I’ve actually paid $88 for 1 hour of so called prostate massage. I remember at that point in time the alphabet spa and numbers spa was getting quite popular and I do have a few close friends who visit them frequently and was telling me wa this one good that one good. So to satisfy my own curiosity I actually visited and paid for an hour of session at $88. I remembered I was so excited to find out whatever my friends were raving about. They said the HJ was so good the girls are young and pretty and full of GFE.

So cut the long story short, I couldn’t understand what’s the difference between the $88 per hour session and the normal $50 per hour session after I came out of the spa. Luckily for me the HJ I paid for was at one blue note only. Without roaming some more. The ML told me something like need to top up so I can squeeze her boobs. Okay so I decided not to squeeze then. She like abit black face but yea who cares. End of the day I shoot can already ma.

To be honest this $88 is overrated in my personal opinion, no offence to any bros here who like to visit them. I’m not saying you are wrong or rich or carrot. I’m just saying it’s something I don’t think I can afford. $138 for HJ without roaming usually I rather go for those $120 nett girls giving bbbj without massage. That’s just my personal preference. And I realised there are shops or ML’s whom are able to offer $50 + $50 with hdly, 5G roaming and good massage all included, although slightly harder to find but definitely I know I won’t walk out of the shop sulking. Bros with this kind of similar lobang usually won’t share the ML easily as these group of ML’s usually have a steady stream of regulars and it’s harder to book them once the contact is being shared out in the open. Don’t ask me for contacts I do not have now. Even if I have I won’t tell you for the same reason lol.

[subidowa]

One thing u all must be curious why CHINA LADIES so obedient in their country why so f up in our country??? Cause in CHINA, you never know who u are messing with. Their businesses run on good terms with customers. Their business owners place service the customers as their top priority and not the welfare of the MLs. They can always find new girls but if their reputation bad, they will not be able to survive in CHINA. Their law also bit special. If they receive bad service, the customers can wack the girls or scold them and complain to their bosses. Their bosses will further wack them for trying to ruin their businesses. Police will not bother at all as these are all house rules. The worst case is of course if the MLs irritate some gangster big boss, they tear down the whole place la. Then the business cannot function anymore, that is why in CHINA you dunno who u are messing with. Because of that, their service is always top notch. If bros have business dealings with CHINA people. It is not hard to agree that their service is 24/7 and always good and on the ball. Very fast response and anything can do for u.

In Singapore is very special. Kowtow to our government. I always praise my government cause they are world best and everything is run orderly. Of course, we cannot wack the girls or tear down the places like in CHINA. However, the business owners also cannot anyhow in SINGAPORE. If the government step in and want the business close, the business has to close. So to do that, of course u all have to highlight the issues and give the government the bullets to kill them. Bros u all have the rights to report and close whichever shop or girl that is bad. Why aren't you all using your power. Government will handle everything no even need you to dirty your hands to wack the girls or tear down the shops. In Singapore, everything is run orderly, we don't physically abuse people. Just let them unable to stay and ruin their living hood is good enough punishment already. Like Chinese saying, Snatch my rice bowl = kill my parents.

[subidowa]

In summary:

Above post say MLs know they can give lousy service and get away with it in SG. It is a safe country for a reason.


Yes they can get away from the violent treatment by the customers and the bosses. Thus, they are abusing my fellow bros cause like i say bros here are too kind, too gentle and don't talk back. However, they can only get away from the violent treatment. My fellow brothers, u all still hold the power to report and they can get away from Singapore too...

Anyway I wonder will any bro wack the girls because of bad treatment. I doubt even if u wack, them will report cause police will investigate why the girl get wack. Then the bro said, "I was treated badly during HJ, given bad service and then extort the pay high price which they never inform in the first place."

I think if this comment comes out, the shop jialat, provide sexual service and break some commericial rules etc for not transparent pricing which they cannot be transparent about. Confirm the shop close, of course to the hero who wack the girl maybe got some problems with the law. The girl will most likely be deported too.

[Kokoro111]

It's easy to type out what should happen at what prices. However, generally people who type out such pricing don't share which MP they get such great deals at. So where do you get 1 hour of massage plus BJ for a total of $100?

There was another BIG Canon here who says he can get 1 hour of massage and HJ at $50. HJ price included in hourly massage fee. Yet to see where this MP is after all these years

It is true that one blue note can have massage + hj, only in certain massage shop, with Gilf standard. Read more threads and you should able to find where it is. You can't find doesn't mean it is not existed. And I understand sharing is caring but there is no obligation to share out every single detail to public, because they didn't owe anyone. I do appreciate those bros that willing to share but to those don't want to share, it is understandable.

[slickdick87]

from my experience usually Hj Bj with her completely nude, in 69 position is usually 150-180. for a early 30s late 20s girl . Is it too much?

[Romeoxx]

from my experience usually Hj Bj with her completely nude, in 69 position is usually 150-180. for a early 30s late 20s girl . Is it too much?

Why not just go to house based massage? $120 net with massage, HJ, BJ, french, squeeze NNP and shower facilities. Most importantly it is discreet and will not bump into anyone hahah.

Still don’t understand why do fellow bros still pay for $88 + $50 + 50 for rush services.

[cestycesty]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

name the shop. then i up you.

[candeo_88]

Even if it's a half past six massage, don't have to worry about prying eyes from other shoppers, in the convenience of a "house" with proper bathroom (towel hygiene dont know lah), no "rush" and not that worried about men in blue knocking on the door...and finally dont need to haggle about add on fees and kills the mood...

:D:cool:

Why not just go to house based massage? $120 net with massage, HJ, BJ, french, squeeze NNP and shower facilities. Most importantly it is discreet and will not bump into anyone hahah.

Still don’t understand why do fellow bros still pay for $88 + $50 + 50 for rush services.

[Romeoxx]

Even if it's a half past six massage, don't have to worry about prying eyes from other shoppers, in the convenience of a "house" with proper bathroom (towel hygiene dont know lah), no "rush" and not that worried about men in blue knocking on the door...and finally dont need to haggle about add on fees and kills the mood...

:D:cool:

Yuppp!! The haggling part is really a mood killer. Top up $50 just to squeeze a bit?! But i find it funny when the ML can force and accompanied their customer to ATM to withdraw money. The scene is actually quite funny haha! *Sorry*

All in all, if you die die want to jump into the sinkhole, do check and confirm the price first before letting them touch your precious Ding Dong. If not, be firm and walk away (it’s your right).

I do agree that the poor guy should name and shame the shop to deter others from falling into the same trap. DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY!

[jacky43]

My brother! Your experience in she followed u to atm, and waited for u to draw the $. I had 1 at GL, 10 yrs ago with a PRC FL. The service in an illegal brothel behind the coffeeshop. After session she walked with me to the UOB bank, atm machine.

Members who don't wish to be con by lousy service. My advice, kiv the urges till after LNY. U have to wait for 10 days into LNY, the owner will re open business.

The morale of the story. AV has reinvent RLD. This is the new normal. No more Desker and PT budgets sex. Is all high value till a cure is found. Boosters cannot worked. I don't blame the Serbian tennis player, for not getting vaccinated.

[LurkerLurks]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

i visited this shop once and they die also want u to pay premium to enjoy, they kept coaxing me into it but as long as u stay firm, u can jus walk away. ur not obligated to give actually.

[Peacekeeping]

See so many frustrated bros, I want to share a playground along west coast. Standard massage price for 1hr, 1 blue note comes with special and autoroam. Gals there are relatively young and pretty. I’m sharing because we should support massage parlours that plays by our rules. Pm me for location.

[afterburn]

See so many frustrated bros, I want to share a playground along west coast. Standard massage price for 1hr, 1 blue note comes with special and autoroam. Gals there are relatively young and pretty. I’m sharing because we should support massage parlours that plays by our rules. Pm me for location.

West coast? Young and pretty? :D All milfs there at least 30s plus with kid.

[Eternit]

Why not just go to house based massage? $120 net with massage, HJ, BJ, french, squeeze NNP and shower facilities. Most importantly it is discreet and will not bump into anyone hahah.

Still don’t understand why do fellow bros still pay for $88 + $50 + 50 for rush services.

Problem is got such lobang? where to find? I also want leh

[Naka_Timo]

:confused:.. I go frequently to that area for good, hard and clean massage.

Points returned, thanks

[subidowa]

See so many frustrated bros, I want to share a playground along west coast. Standard massage price for 1hr, 1 blue note comes with special and autoroam. Gals there are relatively young and pretty. I’m sharing because we should support massage parlours that plays by our rules. Pm me for location.


Yeah support those that play by our rules. Bros u all can do better by reporting those bad ones after being con. Let's combine and close them one by one. How to define being con.

1) Force or pester u to choose what they wanted
2) Ask you to top up then got massage the bottom area
3) HJ more than $50 and top up for auto roam
4) Keep on pester you to add on time for a better massage
5) Basically anything that costs more than 110 for 1 hr massage plus HJ. Autoroam if provided is ok. If not don't fall into the trap of adding $50 for autoroam. It is not worth it. Once you take it, they will faster make u shoot regardless u enjoy it or not. What juagen .... all bullshit just huff huff u shoot then f off. Autoroam if u were to pay does that mean u can autoroam the whole massage session? If not why only ask during GQ for that short period of time u wanna pay $50?

Here got some massage shop operators. they don't want us to expose and stop their operation. Still, if you feel is ridiculous. just walk off and expose them and the ladies sent them back never to come and leech our bros again.

[Xgenre]

Why not just go to house based massage? $120 net with massage, HJ, BJ, french, squeeze NNP and shower facilities. Most importantly it is discreet and will not bump into anyone hahah.

The spam that follows is not worth it. It takes about 2 years from your last visit for the spam sms to stop.

[Romeoxx]

Problem is got such lobang? where to find? I also want leh

Brooo you serious or trying to be sarcastic? Hahah! Just go to local massage section in this forum? Plenty to choose from and provide better services as compared to shop based massage which needs to top up for additional half fuck services?

[Romeoxx]

The spam that follows is not worth it. It takes about 2 years from your last visit for the spam sms to stop.

Hmm they dont really spam me though? Maybe I am not VVIP haha! But even if they did, just ignore and delete the massage?

Just wana inform fellow bros that there are much better playgrounds at a more affordable rates. Nobody can force you to be a carrot unless you willingly want to be a carrot.

[fireevo]

See so many frustrated bros, I want to share a playground along west coast. Standard massage price for 1hr, 1 blue note comes with special and autoroam. Gals there are relatively young and pretty. I’m sharing because we should support massage parlours that plays by our rules. Pm me for location.

Opposite is coffee shop bro?

[Peacekeeping]

Opposite is coffee shop bro?

Yes you are right.

[Peacekeeping]

West coast? Young and pretty? :D All milfs there at least 30s plus with kid.

Hah you find 30s too old? Here many fl in their 40s and 50s people still enjoy them like aged wine. Back in china, these milfs will be out of job. All the chinamen get to taste fresh young and tight pussy at half the price.

[sadsea]

My guess is it Lin spa at tampines BLK 100plus? As mention near hawker, east side and spa name first alphabet is after "K" 😁

[relinw]

Quite obvious le, single letter shop along Upper C road

[Cherrypink4940]

There is another chop Robert place at Upper Serangoon area. Very pissed as I passed the ML M****** $50 after HJ without agreeing the price which is the norm. Then she told me this shop is $100 special and all the while it's been like this. She even told me to open up my wallet to see if there is extra cash. Please beware of this shop. PM me if you want to avoid.

[zai1]

Quite obvious le, single letter shop along Upper C road

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[zai1]

Quite obvious le, single letter shop along Upper C road

Oh got the number 28 as a factor involved involved when u say along Upper C road right? :)

$189 for massage + hj is too ex liao man

[supershaft]

Oh got the number 28 as a factor involved involved when u say along Upper C road right? :)

$189 for massage + hj is too ex liao man

back in pre - covid times, if one really prefers a HJ, can jolly well drop by GL cat 50 and ask any SYT to HJ for u... rather than pay almost 200 to spoil the dick head.. seriously too much HJ is bad for the sensation of cock head.. i say juz go cold turkey and quit for the time being, at least until GL scene is somewhat back, tho unlikely.

[pete_the_fish]

back in pre - covid times, if one really prefers a HJ, can jolly well drop by GL cat 50 and ask any SYT to HJ for u... rather than pay almost 200 to spoil the dick head.. seriously too much HJ is bad for the sensation of cock head.. i say juz go cold turkey and quit for the time being, at least until GL scene is somewhat back, tho unlikely.
Go cold turkey ? No need lah, put in some effort and go look fir free fuck ,

[bigmannow]

Hah you find 30s too old? Here many fl in their 40s and 50s people still enjoy them like aged wine. Back in china, these milfs will be out of job. All the chinamen get to taste fresh young and tight pussy at half the price.

Can’t wait to go there liao

[zai1]

back in pre - covid times, if one really prefers a HJ, can jolly well drop by GL cat 50 and ask any SYT to HJ for u... rather than pay almost 200 to spoil the dick head.. seriously too much HJ is bad for the sensation of cock head.. i say juz go cold turkey and quit for the time being, at least until GL scene is somewhat back, tho unlikely.

For benefits of newbies and even some lao jiao, can someone list down the pricing -- confirmed ones so that we dun kana chopped carrot. Some of us quite new to the spa scene so need help.. Maybe pricing for HJ only for a start
Like those SPAs located at HDB blocks

If basic massage $58 + HJ top up how much $? add $50 ok?
If basic massage $58 + HJ + Auto roaming outside $? add $80 ok?
If basic massage $58 + HJ + Auto roaming inside $? add $100 ok?


What about if I pay $88 for the "kidney care" package.. Then
If massage $88 + HJ top up how much $? add $50 ok?
If basic massage $88 + HJ + Auto roaming outside $? add $80 ok?
If basic massage $88 + HJ + Auto roaming inside $? add $100 ok?


Appreciate if any experience SPAs goer can help with the pricing so that we dun get chopped carrot. thanks

[nex_terday]

For benefits of newbies and even some lao jiao, can someone list down the pricing -- confirmed ones so that we dun kana chopped carrot. Some of us quite new to the spa scene so need help.. Maybe pricing for HJ only for a start
Like those SPAs located at HDB blocks

If basic massage $58 + HJ top up how much $? add $50 ok?
If basic massage $58 + HJ + Auto roaming outside $? add $80 ok?
If basic massage $58 + HJ + Auto roaming inside $? add $100 ok?


What about if I pay $88 for the "kidney care" package.. Then
If massage $88 + HJ top up how much $? add $50 ok?
If basic massage $88 + HJ + Auto roaming outside $? add $80 ok?
If basic massage $88 + HJ + Auto roaming inside $? add $100 ok?

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Pls dun raise the standard rates this way bro. You set $58, newbies will believe that is the norm. You say must top up for roaming means $50 is basic hj without roaming. Mls love you very much.

If basic massage $50 please!
If basic massage $50 + HJ + Auto roaming inside - add $50. Many other samsters can vouch that this is still available and common.

If kidney care $58/$68/$88 - dun waste ur time and money

[navras]

There are some that charged $50,$55,$58,$60.
Minimum is $50. Not $58.

[zai1]

Pls dun raise the standard rates this way bro. You set $58, newbies will believe that is the norm. You say must top up for roaming means $50 is basic hj without roaming. Mls love you very much.

If basic massage $50 please!
If basic massage $50 + HJ + Auto roaming inside - add $50. Many other samsters can vouch that this is still available and common.

If kidney care $58/$68/$88 - dun waste ur time and money


Thanks for ur reply

oh there are some who charge $50+, not all charge the same. Some charge $50, some $55, some $58... ok I assume basic massage is $50+ for simplicity

Oh wow.. $50 extra = HJ + auto roaming inside??? opps i think i kana chopped carrot. HJ + auto roaming inside they charge extra $100 leh.. Then HJ + auto roaming outside they charge extra $80.. somemore I paid for $88 kidney care massage

So most of the time i paid $88 + $80 for hj and roam outside = $168

[zai1]

There are some that charged $50,$55,$58,$60.
Minimum is $50. Not $58.

ok thanks.. for simplicity we assume if $50+.. I more concern on the "extra" charge..

Being paying $168 total for $88 kidney massage + $80 (hj + autoroam OUTSIDE)... kana chopped liao

Anyway cos I seldom visit other SPAs..so I usually only go to one SPA in the east.. not very familar with the pricing. Thanks to bros who replied.

[CrazyKriss]

The tips have increased, now its common for ML's to demand 2 blue notes (some even demand 3 notes for top auto roam), but i do have my regular ML's that are happy with old rate of 1 blue note (and will not make face when you give tip them).

[zai1]

The tips have increased, now its common for ML's to demand 2 blue notes (some even demand 3 notes for top auto roam), but i do have my regular ML's that are happy with old rate of 1 blue note (and will not make face when you give tip them).

2 blue notes for hj + autoroaming top?

If only hj + autoroaming outside?

[cordycept]

The tips have increased, now its common for ML's to demand 2 blue notes (some even demand 3 notes for top auto roam), but i do have my regular ML's that are happy with old rate of 1 blue note (and will not make face when you give tip them).

2 blue notes for top roam already too much, still dare to demand 3? :(

[CrazyKriss]

2 blue notes for hj + autoroaming top? Yes.
If only hj + autoroaming outside? - Most of the ML's now as anywhere between 50 to 80.


2 blue notes for hj + autoroaming top?

If only hj + autoroaming outside?

[zai1]

2 blue notes for hj + autoroaming top? Yes.
If only hj + autoroaming outside? - Most of the ML's now as anywhere between 50 to 80.

wow... i already paid $88 liao.. then plus $80 for hj + autoroaming outside = $168 .. quite ex man

[tiko]

I support bro Next..

Massage fee plus $50 for hj and autoroam inside... Roam outside is like squeezing the bra... And also some can zhut for this fee. Either they zhut u or u zhut her... Haha


If pay 50 just for hj, I will not do it .
Might as well pcc myself .. usually if u take time to cum and u wanna roam, they will oblige...

Pls dun raise the standard rates this way bro. You set $58, newbies will believe that is the norm. You say must top up for roaming means $50 is basic hj without roaming. Mls love you very much.

If basic massage $50 please!
If basic massage $50 + HJ + Auto roaming inside - add $50. Many other samsters can vouch that this is still available and common.

If kidney care $58/$68/$88 - dun waste ur time and money

[Peacekeeping]

Just insist on hj and autoroam for 1 blue note. If she cannot accept it at most just go home with blue balls and she lose $50. Don’t let her GQ you too early, make her massage for at least 45mins. So at least you get your massage money worth.

[javl0ver]

long time no go massage.. now still need to mask on during massage?

[Peacekeeping]

long time no go massage.. now still need to mask on during massage?

Massage spa need wear mask.

[Peacekeeping]

Look at the video. Look beyond the makeup. She is obviously 40+ auntie still can charge $180. And she is posing with dollar note. Based on experience, gals who pose with dollar note are very commercial. I welcome bros to try her and prove me wrong.

https://www.impmm20.com/girl.php?id=4691

[SoftSoftRice]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

Bro, this shop the knife damn sharp to chop

[Laofuzi8888]

Been damn long since I go to any Spa for massage locally. Went to a Spa in the east nearby my favourite hawker centre. Its a single letter Name Shop after the alphabet K. Walked into the shop and was approached aggressively by the receptionist and a manager to try their signature Hot Oil kidney Therapy massage for $89 an hour as initially I opted for the traditional Chinese massage which is priced at $58 an hour. Both prices were stated in the menu and I asked them why am i not allowed to take the $58 traditional massage? The manager snapped me and said the $89 hot oil kidney therapy includes full body massage from the head to the lower part of the body and the $58 only includes the upper part of the body which is just shoulders and arms. She even said all their patrons will pay for the $89 massage and why am I the wierd one who is not taking it.


After 5 mins I decided to try lah since 1 year plus never go for any massage liao. The masseuse came in was in her forties from the land of dragon and she have no clues on how to give a proper massage. She kept pouring lots of oil on my body and rubbing at the same place for many times. At one point, she even asked me to extend for another 30 mins which I will need to top up additional money. In my mind, I already wanted the massage to end quickly and get out, what's worse is yet to come. She suddenly attacked my genitals and stroke it. She told me you know the "market rate" to tip me. And when the session ends, i gave her one blue. And she asked where's the other blue? She said now needs 2 blue. I told her i have been giving one blue since one year plus ago. And she said now is 2022 liao, air tickets also increase. In my mind I am thinking what has it got to do with us. I told her I did not have extra cash, she kept asking me to use paynow or use the NETS machine at the counter.


As I am a married man, I know by using paynow or NETS will leave traces. She even said she will follow me to the ATM outside the Spa to withdraw cash. In order not to create a scene, I went out with her to withdraw the other $50 and passed it to her. Total damage is $189 and what a ripped off. A big lesson learned indeed and I vowed not to step into any massage palour ever again.

That is why I don’t go to this kind of nonsense massage shop anymore. I will check FJ right from the start. No FJ I won’t even go. FJ price range from $150 to $250. Paying $189 for massage and HJ, I might as well go for massage plus FJ.

[rey69]

That is why I don’t go to this kind of nonsense massage shop anymore. I will check FJ right from the start. No FJ I won’t even go. FJ price range from $150 to $250. Paying $189 for massage and HJ, I might as well go for massage plus FJ.

I also concur.
Paying >$150 & still have not fuck?

[Xgenre]

FJ price range from $150 to $250. Paying $189 for massage and HJ, I might as well go for massage plus FJ.

Some guys 3 min shoot. So if you count by cost per min... :D:p;)

[Laofuzi8888]

Some guys 3 min shoot. So if you count by cost per min... :D:p;)

Lol. I don’t know about others. I usually have at least 40 min of service from massage, bbbj, cat bath etc till FJ completed.

[Xgenre]

Lol. I don’t know about others.

Ya, so don't judge based on what people spend on $88 massage with hj. :p

We never know the real story why people make such decisions. ;) :D

[Laofuzi8888]

I also concur.
Paying >$150 & still have not fuck?

Paying $100 on top of $68 or $88 to only touch them plus handjob.

[Laofuzi8888]

Ya, so don't judge based on what people spend on $88 massage with hj. :p

We never know the real story why people make such decisions. ;) :D

Haha. I am not judging anyone. I have mentioned that I don’t go to this kind of massage shop any more due to the reason stated. If others still want to go by all mean. Enjoy.

[Peacekeeping]

Lol. I don’t know about others. I usually have at least 40 min of service from massage, bbbj, cat bath etc till FJ completed.

Same. I can fuck continuously for 30mins but how many fl can take it? We are not their lovers and they want us to cum in 5mins. So far only handful of the fl I met truly enjoy sex and fuck until both of us sweaty still can continue for a long time. There is one still in service.

[Peacekeeping]

Ya, so don't judge based on what people spend on $88 massage with hj. :p

We never know the real story why people make such decisions. ;) :D

Some people go in turn soft already so how to find fl? They can only find masseuse to hj out for them. A masseuse tell me one.

[Laofuzi8888]

Some people go in turn soft already so how to find fl? They can only find masseuse to hj out for them. A masseuse tell me one.

Some told me haven’t gone in shoot already.

[occultbro]

wow... i already paid $88 liao.. then plus $80 for hj + autoroaming outside = $168 .. quite ex man

standard 1 ma...

u pcc at home better la.. $168 also dun have to chiong?

[occultbro]

ok thanks.. for simplicity we assume if $50+.. I more concern on the "extra" charge..

Being paying $168 total for $88 kidney massage + $80 (hj + autoroam OUTSIDE)... kana chopped liao

Anyway cos I seldom visit other SPAs..so I usually only go to one SPA in the east.. not very familar with the pricing. Thanks to bros who replied.

want go chiong, but "concern" about the extra charge.

few dollar only... still want to gei siao chiong FL dome premium girl. joke sia.

btw your kkj still cannot stand?