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kenneth21
15-06-2008, 03:58 AM
I believe many bros here have been chionging for a long time, and as a guy, its natural that we want to be able to try out different kinds of girl.

Many of us have this same mentality (pls let me know if i'm wrong) that, if i'm rich, i'll fuck all the FLs esp those high end ones. And I believe many of us have this self control of spending only a smaller percentage of their income on FLs as well.

But honestly, how many of us belongs to the high bracker income earners? I, for one, am definately not!

I am a horny bastard and i can say that if i see a chio girl on the streets, i will want to fuck her. And i also like to experience the feeling with different girl, and so i resort to FLs.

When an appointment is confirmed, there is this feeling of anxiety and a "feel good" feeling because you are trying something new. And upoon meeting the FL, sexual feelings will develop. after you complete the deed, you realised that you feel empty inside, both the testis and in the heart because its just another cum and you spend a few hundered dollar on it and its no difference from the cum of masturbation. I derieved this because i just masturbated and it really is the same.

And when you get home and ponder, you will start to think how much you spend on the FL and there is much better use which you can put the money to.

I'm know i will not quit the FL scence as i am still young and have not tried many girls yet but. The reason why i started this thread is just to vent my frustrations and what i penned down is a complete honest opinion from my heart. Probably due to cost rising everywhere especially fuel. In fact just now when i was doing some shopping, which i've not done so for a long time, I realised how expensive things are nowadays. seems like GSS has not much effect on prices..

Hagrid
15-06-2008, 07:24 AM
This is life, there are so many things that are like that. At least you still have the memories ... which is important ...

SammyHulk
15-06-2008, 12:57 PM
Rest a sure bro, u r not alone.;). Juz like i'm partying all e way in a KTV with boobs n boozes but once hit e quiet streets in wee hours, can help but felt a sense of emptiness inside mi.;)

Starlite
15-06-2008, 03:17 PM
Bro, you are definitely not the only one. I cheong FL, KTV, and after the time is over, would also feel empty, but yet when time to go cheong again would go on and cheong... weak determination.:confused:

elth
15-06-2008, 06:08 PM
my visit to hotel increase maybe also due to my job (very stress). sometime i felt i need a place where i can relax and release my urges. after walking out the hotel i felt relaxing but after some time like what other bros say there are "a sense of emptiness" but really no choice i cannot control myself :o

sometime i wonder if getting attached might help :confused: as i been single for quite a long long time :(

DO_YOU_BJ
15-06-2008, 06:43 PM
When one is young, full of energy......he needs to release...the quickie way.
When he starts to mature further, he'll realise that quickies are of no kicks anymore......
FLs ya, maybe once in a blue moon but then still no kick....
Soon he'll be looking for more, with heart and feelings......
He may think then that FLs are dirty then he'll go for the KTV chicks if he can afford the exposure......then he'll realise, now i'm older, career also paying more, so can spend more...then he'll be in for a treat.
This time no more fire and forget...well occasionally still can but then, this is where the strategy game comes in.
Working your way to the kill, especially for me, has more kick than just paying for it....it's the thrill!!!!!
Then it's time when like many posts here, TSs heart pain and get cheated and so on......
Live on a motto like me and be spared this outcome!!!!

"IF U LUV SOMETHING, SET IT FREE!
IF IT DOESN'T CUM BACK, HUNT IT DOWN N KILL IT!!"
hahahaha

This is the path to maturity in the chionging world if you wanna experience it....
FLs are boring dude....to me that is!

There's a very common saying in the saying, believe or not its up to you...remember, its the other side of midnite!!!!

“夜场的人都是鬼,要找真的就像中马票!”

ss_revup
15-06-2008, 09:14 PM
Bro TS..

In my opinion, i think its only right n natural to chiong as and when u like it.. especially when u have the urges.. the feeling of bonking a FL just can't compare with PCC.. haha.. the numbers of FLs out there are so large.. U just can't finish them all :p

As for the $$$ part, my suggestion is that u should work hard to earn more $$.. then u can chiong even more and splurge on the high end FLs..

Have fun and keep the chionging spirit alive... :cool:

kenneth21
15-06-2008, 09:59 PM
thanks for all your feedbacks, realised there are at least some who feel the same way. to bro ss_revup, yes i am trying to make more money. in fact i believe everyone is. And i can tell you if i do strike toto and win 500k, i will definately book some high end girls to try. but fact that is, its damn diffcult to strike toto.

And to bro DO_YOU_BJ,
yes i understand that FL is boring because it lacks the thrill of having to sian the girl yourself + you might not even get the right chemistry with the FL at all.

But do remember that, to sian a girl requires lots of effort + time + some amt of money. Which i can't really afford the time to do so.

So, afterall best way is to just pay and go. chop chop within 1 hour, everything settled.

cumshot4u
15-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Dear TS,
U are not alone. In my opinion, 9 out of 10 average income earner feel the same way as u do. For a start, try to frequent less on FLs and eventually see if u can quit it completely. I know that talk is cheap but u need to start somewhere. Good luck:D

cmelater
15-06-2008, 10:06 PM
I have that sort of feeling too. I pcc once a day, prob like over 4 days of a week. All guys need some form of relief. It feels better. Then, sometimes, I don't pcc at all. Occasionally, I go for a fl.

I definitely agree with the guys here. The feeling of emptiness after the 90 minutes is just haunting. But, what to do... Find gf, also no promises one. Gal can ditch you anytime. I also realise that if u can't find, it will only get harder as one gets older.

Bedding a gal vs pcc is just different. With the gal, at least u feel that connection with the gal. If dun get married, still will need some of those fl to help release a bit.

Boliaoz
15-06-2008, 10:39 PM
I do agree with u, albeit partially. I do feel the emptiness inside after a night out at KTV with all the interaction and flirting with the KTV chicks. But I do find that masturbation and sex aren't the same in terms of sexual satisfaction. Its like comparing a tour to Disneyland to watching a documentary on disneyland. After PCC, the sexual urge still lingers but a good session with a FL can keep me from thinking of sex for at least a few days.

paul^bibi^baby
15-06-2008, 10:53 PM
Kenneth21 bro, u are not alone ! :D

for little me, i have lost count the amount of vit M, number of WLs i have bonked within this little time span of like 1 yr plus ? no matter how pretty the they are, how good she treats u, how good that bonk is, at the back of my head i will think that it's jus a trade. i guess that explains the emptiness we feel after each session, reality kicks in as our big heads jus knows wats best for us.

i do admit that the excitement and lust is there, especially when getting a bonk is jus as easy as flagging ur cash and sealing the deal. There's a point of time where i kenna the KC trap and really die until jia liat jia liat. But no one's to blame for that as it takes 2 hands to clap.

masturbate and having s3x although is about "releasing", it is releasing through different levels. masturbate IMHO is about fantasy whereas the most u could do is watch p0rn and picture the scene in ur mind, u are still alone emotionally. Releasing through s3x is totally another level, more of an emotional fulfillment i guess.

regarding about getting high end FLs for couple of hundreds or more for a session or overnight stay, i'm over that period(well at least for now). i always keep my bonks around the hundred range as tat is as far as i can afford for now.

I personally think(no offense) that earning much it not a solution of the problems. There is always a way to spend or earn more money. Even if u earn more, there are hundreds of other ways to spend it. I could suggest to get an emotional comfort, doesn't have to be a gf. Maybe some other stuffs to keep ur mind occupied or something.

Do not get me wrong here, i luv bonking and i've a really high s3x drive. Most of the time i bonked too much for my own good. Try to sit down and think about it, lessen the number of bonks per month if it's killing your pocket. The last thing u would ever wan to do is to save up on ur meals or daily expenses jus for the sake of bonking.

Jus my 2 cents though. My mindset is, Life is short, live it to the fullest ! Try out as much things as u wan when u still can, if not when do u wan to try ? And to all the chiongster bros, bonk with no regrets ~! :D

Cheers,
Paul

cheongsan
15-06-2008, 11:58 PM
This is a good thread because it is about sharing abashfully what's troubling you and humbly seeking others' opinions. I see many sincere opinions from fellow brothers here too.

Your frustration stemmed from the fact that you "squandered" all your hard-earned money for short-lived pleasurable moments instead of wisely using the money for "more important things in life".

Like what the brothers here have advised you to think and do: focus on making more surplus money and the frustration will lessen. It's an inverse relationship if I can remember my mathematics correctly.

Exercising some self-control may also help so that the money is well-spent on mostly quality fucks.

DO_YOU_BJ
16-06-2008, 01:07 AM
And i can tell you if i do strike toto and win 500k, i will definately book some high end girls to try. but fact that is, its damn diffcult to strike toto.

And to bro DO_YOU_BJ,
yes i understand that FL is boring because it lacks the thrill of having to sian the girl yourself + you might not even get the right chemistry with the FL at all.

But do remember that, to sian a girl requires lots of effort + time + some amt of money. Which i can't really afford the time to do so.



Dude, read your reply.
The time will come when to taste the forbidden fruit & then comment.
Based on your nick and what you post, can roughly tell your age group.
Not an argument here, but one day, you'll look back & remember this post & bang, u'll knock yourself & say that boliao guy in sammy boy was rite.....
The cycle is the same, only when it dawn on you only...cheers and have fun dude.

ekemono
16-06-2008, 02:11 AM
Ts, I can understand how you felt and my sentiments exactly.
After these few years of fun, I am beginning to feel bored about it. No doubt a curvy sexy WL still turns me on but the fun is short lived. But I guess it was meant to be these way cos otherwise I would have fallen into the pitless hole of KC trap.

Those WL have nothing more to offer other than a fuck and forget session, even in a RTF situation. Now only the conversations hold better.

TS, you were fortunate you still have a clear piece of mind. Some fellows, longing for companionship, tries to seek them in a countless RTF session with a particular WL or FL, hoping that his "support" and time spent with her will somehow develop some kind of a relationship there. And bros here are pretty familiair with thier deadly KC trap, so both factors paired up pretty easily and another victim is claim.

For my case now, I have tone down my visits, partly also due to rising cost. And at times allocate the time and resources to date gals out, non Fl la...
Even though no hanky panky act, the outings was so much memorable. Hopefully she is the one :)

colins
16-06-2008, 02:18 AM
Bro TS, looks like the problem of the aftermath is very common. When I first did FL, this was my main problem. Then I tried with ONS, the feeling was worse, but the earlier seduction leading to sex more or less covers it. Only thing is, got guilt problem cos I dun like the girl. Then I got a gf, and this completely solved the problem, no guilt, no emptiness (especially if she helps you to clean up and both can talk awhile before dozing off). FB-wise, the aftermath is strange, it's like after a pair of friends just finishing a job. Can talk like friends yet taking sex just like any other topics under the sun, a little guilt feeling and emptiness.

So I guess the best to get a gf whom you really like, if you find the emptiness problem too overbearing. To me, its the guilt that affects me for days, esp when you want to avoid her and she still likes to talk.

goodpartner
16-06-2008, 02:53 AM
I agree with the comments that the TS's concern is mainly due to the inverse relationship between spare cash and frustration. The lucky bastards who are loaded with cash will take on a FL anytime instead of PCC :D

It's true also that the emptiness feeling will settle down irregardless, that's why being an emotional being we seek matters of the heart - i.e. the KC thingy. That's where we need to learn how not to be its victim, but instead play to stay in the game, thus enjoying the sextifaction from both the mind and body.

I like the relation of such frastrations to age and "maturity" (as in bonking experiences) too. Any newbies here will swear that their cock will continue to stand for days after their first virgin bonk, but most old birds would usually be spending more of their time traveling overseas to experience more unusual/exotic bonks; go read the thread on international FR and find out how differently the WL service you in KTV, suanas, and even accompany you whole day after a quckie...

As we "mature", we just need bigger fix. It's no different from getting hooked on drugs :p

That's why we have different sections in SBF catering to bros at different "life stages"; from links exchange to Int'l FR and everything in between ;)

The good news is that there's probably a wide enough variety of ways we can fuck around before we turn too old to enjoy. So enjoy while we last...

kenneth21
16-06-2008, 03:50 AM
to all bros who told me to get a gf, probably i need to clarify this. I do have a gf and we do have sex regularly. But being men, of course we are open to the different dishes that comes along.

Basically, if some of you brothers realise, you could have been paying FLs enough money for a monthly installment of a car. and almost a monthly installment of a HDB as well, assuming you bought it like 2 yrs back.

But, i know things will still not change la, men will continue to look for FL. That includes me.. lol..
I'm still a horny bastard afterall.

paul^bibi^baby
16-06-2008, 02:15 PM
TS bro, wah have gf and sex regularly still looking for more FLs ? Power la bro, i am not surprised as i have friends who are married but still lurking around in the bonking scene.

I have no experience to offer since i am single, but as senior bro goodpartner mentioned, if u wan to get the most out of ur money jus go overseas la. The fishes are fresher. :D

Cheers,
Paul

DTCEPL
16-06-2008, 03:30 PM
When an appointment is confirmed, there is this feeling of anxiety and a "feel good" feeling because you are trying something new. And upoon meeting the FL, sexual feelings will develop. after you complete the deed, you realised that you feel empty inside, both the testis and in the heart because its just another cum and you spend a few hundered dollar on it and its no difference from the cum of masturbation. I derieved this because i just masturbated and it really is the same.



Almost every men who go for FL, Pros or release in KTVs/HCs.....after the money for sex transaction, you will feel 'Empty'. Such feeling can't be erased, it will repeat itself everytime you engaged in such activities. Unless you have sex or rather make love to a woman you love or having feelings for....then you will not have this empty feeling. Having sex with a woman you love and a stranger is very different deep inside each man's heart.

Thats the reason why most men hoped for the GF feelings given by gals....maybe that increases the chances of not having the Empty feeing, and come out a more fulfilled person.

Hope Bros agreed with my argument.:p

asean
16-06-2008, 03:38 PM
Haha, agree with you DTC ... but then if not much GF felling ... later tio KCed ... lagi jialat ... :)

foooah
16-06-2008, 06:31 PM
That's why I think...FL = False Love...

The best if you really can't tahan just go for ONS.

Or get a steady relationship where ur gf understands both your needs for sex...

Live life TS! :)

Captain_Hook
16-06-2008, 08:06 PM
Thsk just remember that releasing your seed into a woman and into your hand while viewing porn is not quite the same. Cheaper yes but feel wise...might not be better. ;)

Fuckster
16-06-2008, 11:10 PM
That's why I think...FL = False Love...

Agreed :D or in another words, Fxxk n Leave :p

justl00king
16-06-2008, 11:26 PM
FL is for you to satisfy your sexual urge, nothing more.

If you want to fill the void of emptiness, think you probably need to go into a real relationship not with a FL.

The problem lies when you get KC by them thinking the relation is real, end up having not only monetary but emotional losses as well. not saying no chance for feelings to develop but percentage rather slim or remote.

Still, the game can be played as long as not to invest too much feelings and just enjoy while it lasts.

I also made some mistakes in my course of cheonging. Luckily not too much damage. Nowadays, I always go bonking and after that go home a happy man. No stress, no headache, mission accomplished! :D

foooah
16-06-2008, 11:48 PM
Agreed :D or in another words, Fxxk n Leave :p

Nice one bro! I think we're on to something here! hahaha

U must copyright these if no one do yet..haha

Compassion
17-06-2008, 03:19 AM
That is why I always subscribe to my signature' "Happiness is wanting what you have - meaning treasure what you possess now, whether is is material things, emotional attachment, love ones, personal relationship, etc.

When you try to have what you want - meaning satisfying your wants than your needs, you will always end up empty.

When relating to FLs, I always try to end up with one or two where you can build relationships mutually and where you think you can contribute towards helping another individual build a better life. So at the end of the day when it is over, you have the satisfaction that your so called "investment" has not gone to waste.

goodpartner
17-06-2008, 03:41 AM
I have no experience to offer since i am single, but as bro goodpartner mentioned, if u wan to get the most out of ur money jus go overseas la. The fishes are fresher. :D

Fresh or not I can't say for sure lah, but my point about trying the FL or WL overseas is more for getting difference fucking experiences; it's not just 160/90/2 or $50 for 25min thingy - it's like for example:

1) 700 mei mei line up in rows, greeting you as you walk along to pick your fancy. Just picking up one is a ball of fun.
2) Spend 2 solid hours in a room attached with suana, let the girl service you like a king according to a fixed menu of 18-24 styles. No way to cheat u of service.
3) Have a quickie and then go jalan-jalan with the girl for the rest of the day like a GF
4) Pick a favourite one and travel together to another city for sight-seeing and short tour; enjoying free fuck along the way (excluding expenses lah)
5) Hang around a factory during knock-off time and jio a factory worker into doing FL and more.
6) Walk into a ktv room, and before you can sit down, there're girls inside already come knee in front of you pull down your pants and start giving u a BBBJ after wiping with a wet cloth. Then whole room of girls strip down to birthday suit and dance to the ktv music, allowing u to inspect the goods b4 ta-pao one back to hotel room.
7) etc...

After exposing your bonking lifestyle to the above and more, you will have lesser time to feel empty, since there are just so many ways to bonk! Then we'll know that it's NOT just about releasing... it's about enjoying manhood, while it last :D

submarinez
17-06-2008, 11:31 AM
I guess this is part and parcel of chionging man... Sigh...

colins
17-06-2008, 12:01 PM
1) 700 mei mei line up in rows, greeting you as you walk along to pick your fancy. Just picking up one is a ball of fun.
2) Spend 2 solid hours in a room attached with suana, let the girl service you like a king according to a fixed menu of 18-24 styles. No way to cheat u of service.
3) Have a quickie and then go jalan-jalan with the girl for the rest of the day like a GF
4) Pick a favourite one and travel together to another city for sight-seeing and short tour; enjoying free fuck along the way (excluding expenses lah)
5) Hang around a factory during knock-off time and jio a factory worker into doing FL and more.
6) Walk into a ktv room, and before you can sit down, there're girls inside already come knee in front of you pull down your pants and start giving u a BBBJ after wiping with a wet cloth. Then whole room of girls strip down to birthday suit and dance to the ktv music, allowing u to inspect the goods b4 ta-pao one back to hotel room.
7) etc...


Bro, if you say all these and never say where all these can be found, that is very bad of you. Especially number 6! Tell me where and I'll make that my next holiday destination! haha...
cheers

paul^bibi^baby
17-06-2008, 12:32 PM
kudos to Senior Bro goodpartner ! 700 mei meis ?! wah, need at least 2 years to bonk even if u bonk them everyday lol.

IMHO heading to overseas makes u look at the bigger picture, and wat u see here are jus a tip of an iceberg.

I do admit it is hard to kick this habit when u have gotten used to getting easy s3x in exchange with cash. For me, my rule of thumb is not to spend more than i can spare, since i dun have the intention to kick away this habit of mine. Jus dun overdo it la kekeke. :D

Fuckster
17-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Nice one bro! I think we're on to something here! hahaha

U must copyright these if no one do yet..haha

Haha ok ok, but how to aplly har ? :D

infidelityhurts
18-06-2008, 12:12 AM
I agree with the TS with regards to the emptiness feeling in the heart after each FL session. I had a few sessions with FLs, HCs, flings...and more often than not those that I paid left me feeling really dump and empty. Dump because I paid for sex...(no offense to brothers here, just my own thinking) and empty because of the lack of love (or feelings) involved in the sex (there's a reason why it's also called love making). Of the three kinds, I guess flings would be the best...as it still involved some form of crush/liking for the person you engaged sex in, that definitely doesn't hold true for FLs or HCs.

Being attached, now I am more satisfied with jerking myself off whenever my gf is not around or inconvenient. Of course, I still lust over pretty girls and hoping for a ONS one day or another...but ya..."Afterall, its just to release"

Cheers

steamystreamsg
18-06-2008, 02:31 AM
Afterall, life is short. Enjoy while you can but self control is still a must

goodpartner
18-06-2008, 02:47 AM
Bro, if you say all these and never say where all these can be found, that is very bad of you. Especially number 6! Tell me where and I'll make that my next holiday destination! haha...
cheers

Most of the above mentioned are in PRC, dong guang. Take a read at the dedicated threads there, maybe u know ;)

As for 6, there're actually two different places; one is in one of the KTV in CA (within DG), where the gals are all very sporting, play some games that'll strip to nothing and then mess orgy dance around with other bros and their girls too. As ppl usually pick 2 or more girls to sit, u can take the chance to check out the goods before spending extra for ON.

The other one where the girls auto give u BBBJ is in Vietnam; my biz associate brought me to one of the KTV there, can't remember the place name as I was too drunk but I think it's common there. All I know is that the girls are very hiong.

Anyway, I guess the so-called emptiness feeling will be there if we play with the intention to fill a void in our heart. However, if we play with the intention to have fun & experience manhood, the aftermath feeling is siok and u'll look forward for more (fun).

For heart matters, we need to seek it elsewhere (ya, get attached), but not with commerial sex although things may develop from there. As cliche as it sound, money cannot buy true love; so if one can't get a normal girl to like him due to looks, character or otherwise, paying a WL will never buy u that too - since the WL is also a women - what u'll get is....ya emptiness.

goodpartner
18-06-2008, 03:01 AM
kudos to Senior Bro goodpartner ! 700 mei meis ?! wah, need at least 2 years to bonk even if u bonk them everyday lol.


Yup, no kidding. This one at Jia Yi KTV of Chang Ping (within DG too). Walk around until blur, dunno which to choose but can just pick a few to walk with you as u continue shopping/walking around - at the end then confirm 2 or more u really like.

After u experience these... u'll buy from local stores only becoz it's convenience :D

Cum'on man guys, the ladies will NEVER have such fun and outlets to enjoy. Life is indeed short, we're lucky to have a dick! What's this thing about comparing PCC to Quickie with FL? :confused:;)

colins
18-06-2008, 07:29 AM
Most of the above mentioned are in PRC, dong guang. Take a read at the dedicated threads there, maybe u know ;)

As for 6, there're actually two different places; one is in one of the KTV in CA (within DG), where the gals are all very sporting, play some games that'll strip to nothing and then mess orgy dance around with other bros and their girls too. As ppl usually pick 2 or more girls to sit, u can take the chance to check out the goods before spending extra for ON.

The other one where the girls auto give u BBBJ is in Vietnam; my biz associate brought me to one of the KTV there, can't remember the place name as I was too drunk but I think it's common there. All I know is that the girls are very hiong.



I've never been to DG before, but it really seems fun to cheong over there. I've been to a KTV with (it is said) 1000plus girls in SH. But for the numerous times when I was there, we probably seen like less than 200 girls before we choose our own liao. And must be early some more since they sit with you (or anyone else)for the entire night. The building has like 5 storey, almost totally occupied by the KTV.

paul^bibi^baby
18-06-2008, 04:23 PM
woah ! senior bros u guys are making me very excited after hearing all these chionging places ! and little me thought that thailand has it all ! I guess i would have to make a trip down to china then. :D

I would have to agree that the last places u would want to look for emotional fulfillment are with the FLs. By now u would have learn the drill, these places are literally for men to fulfill their wildest fantasies. Spend wisely and bonk with no regrets is wat i would say ! :D

White Lion
18-06-2008, 06:56 PM
I've never been to DG before, but it really seems fun to cheong over there. I've been to a KTV with (it is said) 1000plus girls in SH. But for the numerous times when I was there, we probably seen like less than 200 girls before we choose our own liao. And must be early some more since they sit with you (or anyone else)for the entire night. The building has like 5 storey, almost totally occupied by the KTV.

5 floors of KTV! :eek: Time to venture overseas! :D

EtherC
18-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Our goal as cheongsters should be spending time at Playboy Mansion,the ultimate weekend destination. Aim high so you won't fall far hahaha!:D

woah ! senior bros u guys are making me very excited after hearing all these chionging places ! and little me thought that thailand has it all ! I guess i would have to make a trip down to china then. :D

I would have to agree that the last places u would want to look for emotional fulfillment are with the FLs. By now u would have learn the drill, these places are literally for men to fulfill their wildest fantasies. Spend wisely and bonk with no regrets is wat i would say ! :D

paul^bibi^baby
18-06-2008, 09:37 PM
EtherC Senior Bro,

Playboy Mansion ? simi lai de ? ultimate weekend destination ? i'm in total suspense ! pls enlighten little me kekeke ! :D

Cheers,
Paul

HairyBottom
18-06-2008, 09:44 PM
Life too many problems...work problems...family problems..money problems..relationship problems..everything also got their problems. Only bonk FL got no problem :D ....but provided its f**k and forget!

EtherC
19-06-2008, 01:06 AM
Playboy Mansion Macao Heads For Asia - China Hospitality News - The Digest of Corporate and Leisure Travel Planning (http://www.chinahospitalitynews.com/2007/06/28/3935-playboy-mansion-macao-heads-for-asia/)


EtherC Senior Bro,

Playboy Mansion ? simi lai de ? ultimate weekend destination ? i'm in total suspense ! pls enlighten little me kekeke ! :D

Cheers,
Paul

m0n3ym1nd$$$
19-06-2008, 12:33 PM
Just to release.....thats why budget plays a big part.
Spend within your budget. this is just relaxation

goodpartner
19-06-2008, 02:49 PM
and little me thought that thailand has it all ! I guess i would have to make a trip down to china then.

I would have to agree that the last places u would want to look for emotional fulfillment are with the FLs. By now u would have learn the drill, these places are literally for men to fulfill their wildest fantasies. Spend wisely and bonk with no regrets is wat i would say !

5 floors of KTV! :eek: Time to venture overseas!

Well, so far I've met a few samsters who's been almost everywhere, done it all and got many T-shirts. All of them will tell u that thailand is NOT the most exciting place for fantasy fulfillment :D

Thailand, imho, is quite SOP in terms of fun. Maybe yes, many years ago and the marketing message is still out there, but the dragon is raising man.... didnt' we always hear that for the next 40 years, it'll be dominated by the dragon? Somemore no language barrier for most.

But yes u need to have strong self-control to avoid KC and depleting your bank accounts ;)

asean
19-06-2008, 06:18 PM
I agree ... and it really depend on individual preference ....

Compassion
20-06-2008, 08:32 AM
I.........Being attached, now I am more satisfied with jerking myself off whenever my gf is not around or inconvenient. Of course, I still lust over pretty girls and hoping for a ONS one day or another...but ya..."Afterall, its just to release"
Cheers

Wah lau bro, with your nick "infidelityhurts", wonder what you are doing in SBF forum? :rolleyes: Are you not hurting yourself all the time???

CkiNAkia
20-06-2008, 02:31 PM
Nice one bro .... :D

kenneth21
20-06-2008, 05:11 PM
Hmm, after reading some of the experiences that other brothers have gone through, i really feel like what i've seen is just the tip of the iceberg. lol... Guess i must really earn alot more to uncover the other 90%.

But i guess in singapore, you can't really experience any of this?? basically its quite a simple transaction, they get what they want($) you get what you want(sex). And i do not know why, but i dun seem to have any kind of chemistry with any girls, whereby they will give the kind of GFE.

Personally, although i'm not very good looking, i can be considered at the very least average as well, in fact, it lead me to think how other samsters look? lol.. seems to me that lots of samsters here are actually quite good looking huh..

jplover
20-06-2008, 05:15 PM
Hmm, after reading some of the experiences that other brothers have gone through, i really feel like what i've seen is just the tip of the iceberg. lol... Guess i must really earn alot more to uncover the other 90%.

But i guess in singapore, you can't really experience any of this?? basically its quite a simple transaction, they get what they want($) you get what you want(sex). And i do not know why, but i dun seem to have any kind of chemistry with any girls, whereby they will give the kind of GFE.

Personally, although i'm not very good looking, i can be considered at the very least average as well, in fact, it lead me to think how other samsters look? lol.. seems to me that lots of samsters here are actually quite good looking huh..Having Chemistry with the FLs doesn't mean you've to be good looking.. It's relatively difficult to explain in details..

Compassion
20-06-2008, 06:53 PM
........Personally, although i'm not very good looking, i can be considered at the very least average as well, in fact, it lead me to think how other samsters look? lol.. seems to me that lots of samsters here are actually quite good looking huh..

Bro kenneth,

Its not the look that counts, The FLs are after your vitamin m. If you have them then I can guaranteed you they will give you all the GFE that you needs. What they look for is also hygiene - keep yourself clean and neat - make sure no bad mouth odour and your didi no smell.

Let me debunk your myth that lots of samsters are good looking. They are just the average Singaporean you will find -the good, bad and the ugly. Learn how to treat the FLs nicely and you will have loads of them coming after you.

By the way how old are you?

kenneth21
21-06-2008, 05:42 PM
By the way how old are you?[/QUOTE]


I'm 25. Thats why still got loads to learn. lol..

Thunder God
21-06-2008, 06:25 PM
Bro

I know I am on moderation blah blah blah..but having viewed this site since he early 90s I aint no schoolboy and thus let me give you some gentle comfort...Dont sweat it too much. Induldging in FLs is pretty much like having to scratch an itch (hopefully the FL wont give you a permanent itch on the xiao didi)...but thats all it is. I try to tell myself that this is a feel good session like a massage and avoid emotions. For the emptiness inside, well, this is a space that only a really really special love one or in the worst case scenario.. religion can feel. At the end of the day its about balanced life.

Punter888
21-06-2008, 09:59 PM
Bro kenneth,

Its not the look that counts, The FLs are after your vitamin m. If you have them then I can guaranteed you they will give you all the GFE that you needs. What they look for is also hygiene - keep yourself clean and neat - make sure no bad mouth odour and your didi no smell.

Let me debunk your myth that lots of samsters are good looking. They are just the average Singaporean you will find -the good, bad and the ugly. Learn how to treat the FLs nicely and you will have loads of them coming after you.

By the way how old are you?

Bro I agreed what u have said.I got involved with FLs b4 too,got to sponsor air ticket for them too.Sometimes make me wonder i might as well get a lover instead :(

infidelityhurts
22-06-2008, 01:28 PM
Wah lau bro, with your nick "infidelityhurts", wonder what you are doing in SBF forum? :rolleyes: Are you not hurting yourself all the time???

Haha...good spotting. Anyway the "hurting" part doesn't have to be on one committing infedelity?

Just had a quickie with gf :)

paul^bibi^baby
22-06-2008, 02:57 PM
EtherC senior bro, i got to make a trip down there, to Playboy Mansion ~! :D


Dear Kenneth bro,

FLs dun really go for looks, u can have a "not so good looking guy" offering good bucks, they will still go for it. Regarding the GFE thingy, it's a different thing where looks are not tat important.

GFE or not, u have to ask urself wat u want to achieve out of that bonking session. Do u need to release ? trying to get 1 out of 1000 chance of getting a decent GF oR, u wan a FL to give u GFE feeling so u feel good as a man ?

FLs can give u all the GFE u wan, but at the back of our heads we will be thinking, how true is that ? but no matter wat, better dun kenna the KC trap.

Bro u have to brainstorm a bit on wat u wan. I'm a bit confused. U mentioned that it's just to release, but again u are also looking for GFE, and on top of tat u have a girl whom u sex regularly ? but anyways no offense, jus offering my humble 2 cents here. I got to say ur life quite power, at least to me. I'm a single who doesn't wan to settle down yet btw.

Cheers,
Paul

dirtyol'man
22-06-2008, 04:58 PM
most guy's intention is to release.....
there are some who want to find TRUE LOVE!?!?

but but..................

how many actually found it?

m0n3ym1nd$$$
23-06-2008, 12:31 PM
It not the release..... its the sextisfaction derived from the release......

if just for release, den anyhow do also can

N E R O
23-06-2008, 12:44 PM
Wow actually it is the whole process towards releasing ... everything feel great ...

m0n3ym1nd$$$
26-06-2008, 01:22 PM
Wow actually it is the whole process towards releasing ... everything feel great ...

its not WHAT you release......its HOW you release. :D

shacker
27-06-2008, 10:28 AM
Haha, you are right .. :)

shinn_asuka
27-06-2008, 11:26 AM
its not WHAT you release......its HOW you release. :D

Absolutely agree with bro m0n3ym1nd$$$. What you release is naturally a given...how you release is the ultimate mission! ;)

kenneth21
27-06-2008, 02:24 PM
EtherC senior bro, i got to make a trip down there, to Playboy Mansion ~! :D


Bro u have to brainstorm a bit on wat u wan. I'm a bit confused. U mentioned that it's just to release, but again u are also looking for GFE, and on top of tat u have a girl whom u sex regularly ? but anyways no offense, jus offering my humble 2 cents here. I got to say ur life quite power, at least to me. I'm a single who doesn't wan to settle down yet btw.

Cheers,
Paul


Bro, although have regular sex, but still need different flavour. Everyday eat hor fun also will sian 1 wat, so muz have change to it. i kinda got used to gfe already, really seems weird to just poke and release which i always do, thats why i said its jsut a release. Probably i just want to bonk a very chio face. Even if service so so i'm ok. as long as chio

bizoi
27-06-2008, 04:09 PM
Bro, although have regular sex, but still need different flavour. Everyday eat hor fun also will sian 1 wat, so muz have change to it. i kinda got used to gfe already, really seems weird to just poke and release which i always do, thats why i said its jsut a release. Probably i just want to bonk a very chio face. Even if service so so i'm ok. as long as chio

how abt the gal dun hv look...also different what:D

Xena
27-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Actually once you have tried out different dishes you will realised that all dishes are different ... it might be same foreplay and then penetration but the feelings is totally different .. so for me, always like small kid waiting to get my hands on the lolly pop ... whenever I going to bonk a ger first time.

m0n3ym1nd$$$
29-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Actually once you have tried out different dishes you will realised that all dishes are different ... it might be same foreplay and then penetration but the feelings is totally different .. so for me, always like small kid waiting to get my hands on the lolly pop ... whenever I going to bonk a ger first time.

haha! a small kid getting a lollipop... first lollipop, he is excited. second lollipop, he want a diferent colour lollipop.

when give him so many lollipops in future, he don't like anymore... :D

Poker-Face
29-06-2008, 07:38 PM
haha! a small kid getting a lollipop... first lollipop, he is excited. second lollipop, he want a diferent colour lollipop.

when give him so many lollipops in future, he don't like anymore... :D

Hahaha if only sex were like getting lollipops. :D

czj11
30-06-2008, 12:24 AM
Been following this thread with interest.

I guess I fall into the category of the "nice" type who finally snaps ...

In short, I've joined the dark side - after years of being your classic goody two shoes. I have no apologies or excuses. I don't feel guilty, I don't feel sad.

Last week, I booked a session with a FL. Don't know what was the exact trigger - any number of things, I guess. Maybe it was the easy access through the internet, maybe work and home stress.

I had thought about doing it many times in the past 10 years (I've been a member of SBF for that long, read it occasionally and had always gotten a vicarious thrill out of reading the FRs). However, I never got around to it because it was too much trouble going all the way down to GL, plus I was younger, just starting out in my career then and didn't have much $$. Also, I was quite idealistic in my younger days - looking for real love. I told myself that I would never pay for it.

Now - I've been around the block a few times now. Seen 3 market downturns (and staring down a fourth), married with a kid, seen my friends get divorced, seen nasty office politics, had knock-down drag out fights with my wife, made up ...

It finally dawned on me that I could well afford it now - so I did.

Yeah, I found it enjoyable. The FL I went with was extremely skilled with her BJ skill and above average in looks.

Yeah, I will probably do it again. However, I don't feel any sense of emptiness.

I just feel relieved that I've finally managed to scratch an itch. That together with the feeling of "Oh, so that's it? What's the big deal anyway?"

It's just like PCC except that the magazine or DVD is in real life, in front of you. And you have full tactile feedback. It's like I've been given full rein to act out all my sexual fantasies.

Only time will tell if I will proceed further down the dark path - from what I've read, the next thing will be that I'll get tired of FL because there's no emotion. Hence, I'll seek out KTV girls for the thrill of the hunt, then I might get sucked into an exploitative relationship with a money-grubbing Thai whore or PRC. Either that or I'll start having affairs.

Currently, I don't see that happening. However, I would never be so foolish or arrogant to say that I am above it all or that it'll never happen to me.

However, at the moment, I'm just a greedy, horny b*st**d who's finally been unleashed.

No moralizing, no existential angst from me. I'll do it again when I get the urge.

Graffiti
30-06-2008, 01:33 AM
most guy's intention is to release.....
there are some who want to find TRUE LOVE!?!?

but but..................

how many actually found it?

even if you found it, can you handle it? :o

PeteTsang69
30-06-2008, 12:23 PM
Only time will tell if I will proceed further down the dark path -.

thanks for sharing your story . . i am not alone then:D . .

let me rant a bit . . .i do believe in life that MASLOW'S Heirarchy of Needs is applicable to me in my "new phase" sexual life . . .

Maslow has 5 Hierarchies . . .Physiological, Safety, Love/Belonging, Esteem & Self-Actualisation . . .those inclined do a wiki . .

You . .me . .we . .all . .will find what we have a need at that point in time in our lives, BUT once satisfied we discover NEW needs. . .

first, it was an unbearable spot itch that needed to be scratched for the last 4 years . . finding that it was easy to relief the itch . .u discover that u have more itches, but less itchy than that "4 year one" . . .besides scratches, u discover "massage" . . "head massage" . . .facial . . .1 hour spa treatment . . .whole day treatment. . .etc etc etc

Life really is a Hierachy of needs . . . look at Gates, once u have it ain't enough, he's retired to do his bit to save the world (Self-Actualisation)

Our egos prevents us from being satisfied with what we have . . but here's an old truth that may save some of us . . . "to be happy, its more important to want what you have than to have what you want". . (sadly, this ofcourse does not apply to an OC who is not interested in sex) . . .

but i still strongly believe its BEST to start each day/task with "An Attitude of Gratitude" . . (think abt it, seriously, if she ain't that way, we would not have discovered new wonderful ways to relieve those damn itches!!! ;) )

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Bambie
30-06-2008, 12:26 PM
Hmmm :eek: wa ... quite chim leh :)

Braveheart Lion
30-06-2008, 07:05 PM
And all along I thought it was just about love! :eek: Love making that is!!!! :D

Poker-Face
30-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Been following this thread with interest.

I guess I fall into the category of the "nice" type who finally snaps ...

In short, I've joined the dark side - after years of being your classic goody two shoes. I have no apologies or excuses. I don't feel guilty, I don't feel sad.

No moralizing, no existential angst from me. I'll do it again when I get the urge.

Welcome to the darkside. :D It's more fun! Especially now when we got the financials to enjoy!

goodpartner
03-07-2008, 03:25 AM
I guess I fall into the category of the "nice" type who finally snaps ...

:

No moralizing, no existential angst from me. I'll do it again when I get the urge.

Man, I really like your post :)
Strike many similar cords with me.

Wanted to upz u, but post older than 3 days.

nbzz
03-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Haha quite true on that ... just people dont say nia or admit