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geox6
09-04-2022, 09:49 PM
Hi bros, wondering if anybody knows the current pricing, tips etc. for ktvs in JB. Also if anybody's been there recently any good places to intro?

hka1an
10-04-2022, 11:38 AM
I think E Club KTV just 2 floors below VIP Spa at Plaza Sentosa. Booking for private floor are roughly 600 ringits and booking of gals is 100 ringgit per hr.

I saw a mixture of viet & local hostess before i left

Oscar1325
13-04-2022, 12:35 AM
Anyone interested in going to KTV / Bistro together? PM me..

subidowa
16-04-2022, 03:17 PM
Going in later to recee. Any drinking places to recommend?? Is zon still active like those at texas and etc???? Are the tips still the same???? If not any bros can recommend where good to drink now and the tips?

subidowa
16-04-2022, 03:18 PM
Anyone interested in going to KTV / Bistro together? PM me..

Today I go in recee first. Next week sunday then cheong KTV together. Today just relax drinking.

playboyy
16-04-2022, 07:30 PM
Hello I am planning to go in on 30 April with a friend. Anyone planning to go that day as well we can plan something out

subidowa
17-04-2022, 09:18 AM
I think E Club KTV just 2 floors below VIP Spa at Plaza Sentosa. Booking for private floor are roughly 600 ringits and booking of gals is 100 ringgit per hr.

I saw a mixture of viet & local hostess before i left

Any other ktv except this one. Like ex right 600 ringgits just for booking the room no drinks??? What are the damages nowadays. 100/hr like last time rate at Tokio sentosa.

kyc2110
17-04-2022, 11:02 AM
Going in later to recee. Any drinking places to recommend?? Is zon still active like those at texas and etc???? Are the tips still the same???? If not any bros can recommend where good to drink now and the tips?

The duty free zone area is still quite happening. Texas pub closed down liao. Those pubs beside the hotels are quite happening, vietbu still roaming around. But give tips rm 40 black face.:D

subidowa
17-04-2022, 03:28 PM
The duty free zone area is still quite happening. Texas pub closed down liao. Those pubs beside the hotels are quite happening, vietbu still roaming around. But give tips rm 40 black face.:D

Texas is still open and the sunset boulevard is also open. My friend tips 50 dollars make noise then gives 100. But please do not set this as the standard I think it should be 50 at most. Maybe because yesterday really not many customers and i left early. I dunno how is the later part of the drinking but my friend said she acc him the whole night drinking 4 buckets. So if really not many customers and she acc u like whole night then is fair to support a bit la.

Zexify
17-04-2022, 05:38 PM
From what i know nowadays ppl go to condo and play there. the unit have like 1 ktv room and 2 bedroom. safer they say. can arrange girls for u if you want, along with whatever drugs.

hka1an
17-04-2022, 05:38 PM
Any other ktv except this one. Like ex right 600 ringgits just for booking the room no drinks??? What are the damages nowadays. 100/hr like last time rate at Tokio sentosa.

600 ringgit for package but I didn't ask if liquor is included. 100/hr is for hostess u can pick either local or viet

subidowa
18-04-2022, 06:59 AM
600 ringgit for the package but I didn't ask if liquor is included. 100/hr is for hostess u can pick either local or viet

100/hr is like last time rate I think ok la never increase. 4 hours also like 100 +++ fucking better than the KNNB CCB sg rate 100 butterfly and never come back 300 at least for booking. To f them is another discussion of ridiculous price and no singing and etc compulsory buy food now add 17% taxes. I wonder how our bros in sg can endure this kind of extortion.

600 should be included liquor if not is crazy no room booking is so expensive one. I think the meaning is 600 ringgits minimum spending on drinks to book a room la.

Very grateful that our neighbor KTV vendors are still human and understand that not all bros are well off and most are deeply affected by this covid. They never really bleed us dry while we are injured and even those SPAs that increase their rates also in understanding percentage. I would say bros lets all ditch those KNNB CCB sg massage parlors, KTVs or whatever small rooms play games no singing nonsense. Never to go again and let them be poor and have no business.

To those that never support us during times of need. We will also no support u all after we have recovered and ready to carry on our journey. However, I plead with bros again just let prices remain like this and don't because of SG stupid mentality or save a bit of money and go ver unnecessary inflate price again. Our bros in neighbour country still haven't recover at all from the prices I see in shopping malls. Their items are selling very cheap cause no business thou the food prices increase a bit but still not like SG.

Support those who support us and treat us as human and not cash cows.

Xmen888
20-04-2022, 10:03 PM
From what i know nowadays ppl go to condo and play there. the unit have like 1 ktv room and 2 bedroom. safer they say. can arrange girls for u if you want, along with whatever drugs.

Any contacts for private party?

Zexify
21-04-2022, 08:37 AM
Any contacts for private party?

You can WeChat this coordinator, she can arrange everything you need, from beer to girls. They only charge rm350 for a crate of beer+The room if not mistaken.

Zexify
21-04-2022, 08:37 AM
You can WeChat this coordinator, she can arrange everything you need, from beer to girls. They only charge rm350 for a crate of beer+The room if not mistaken.

The wechat ID: vivianbren

siliconer
21-04-2022, 10:21 AM
The wechat ID: vivianbren

Thanks, will up you later

香香很烦
21-04-2022, 12:24 PM
Thanks, will up you later

Awaiting your fr. Cheers

3343
21-04-2022, 12:59 PM
Can you have any private party to introduce

kahi
21-04-2022, 04:55 PM
Would love to experience a private party. PM me if you need a kaki.

siliconer
23-04-2022, 10:16 PM
Awaiting your fr. Cheers
Sorry didn't manage to get her help us book her private party condo apartment.
I will try next time. I saw she has a package that comes with a singing room and 2 bed rooms.

However, I managed to get another mummy to arrange for KTV session at Plaza Sentosa.
Girl tip: 100 per hour, min booking 3 hours.
Need to pay a coverage charge of 100 MYR for her.
Better to communicate with the mummy one day prior going to select the girls via Whatsapp. Mostly are viet.
As such joint are not allowed to operate, we went up the backdoor via a back gate. The front door are seal with wooden boards.

2nd floor small room min spend : 304 MYR
2nd floor medium room min spend: 608 MYR
3rd floor small room min spend: 608 MYR

We ordered 24 bottles of beer - 1024 MYR. We went for HH so its 12:00-19:00, got the newly renovated (medium size) room at the 3rd floor.

subidowa
23-04-2022, 10:44 PM
Sorry didn't manage to get her help us book her private party condo apartment.
I will try next time. I saw she has a package that comes with a singing room and 2 bed rooms.

However, I managed to get another mummy to arrange for KTV session at Plaza Sentosa.
Girl tip: 100 per hour, min booking 3 hours.
Need to pay a coverage charge of 100 MYR for her.
Better to communicate with the mummy one day prior going to select the girls via Whatsapp. Mostly are viet.
As such joint are not allowed to operate, we went up the backdoor via a back gate. The front door are seal with wooden boards.

2nd floor small room min spend : 304 MYR
2nd floor medium room min spend: 608 MYR
3rd floor small room min spend: 608 MYR

We ordered 24 bottles of beer - 1024 MYR. We went for HH so its 12:00-19:00, got the newly renovated (medium size) room at the 3rd floor.

Everything is ok till the 24 bottles of beer for 1024 ringgits. Are u sure? Beer for 300++ SGD??? Keto gao gao. If you go alone the nett cost is (340 (beers) + 132 (say 4hours the girl) + 33 (mummy) = $505) Why u even go JB for ktv.

I know elsewhere much cheaper but of course not in Malaysia. Won't say much as this is a JB thread. My point is really? You even willing to go JB liao and spend like this? With so many bros spending like his the inflation will go higher and higher liao.

siliconer
23-04-2022, 10:55 PM
Everything is ok till the 24 bottles of beer for 1024 ringgits. Are u sure? Beer for 300++ SGD??? Keto gao gao. If you go alone the nett cost is (340 (beers) + 132 (say 4hours the girl) + 33 (mummy) = $505) Why u even go JB for ktv.

I know elsewhere much cheaper but of course not in Malaysia. Won't say much as this is a JB thread. My point is really? You even willing to go JB liao and spend like this? With so many bros spending like his the inflation will go higher and higher liao.

Who will go alone and drink 24 bottles of beers ? There is 4 of us.

subidowa
23-04-2022, 11:07 PM
Who will go alone and drink 24 bottles of beers ? There is 4 of us.

Enough meh. The girls don't drink nor ask for food etc??? Sure got +++ and it is still ridiculous for beers to cost that amount of money. What prices are the liquor selling there.

Suckkkyyyboi
25-04-2022, 12:43 AM
Sorry didn't manage to get her help us book her private party condo apartment.
I will try next time. I saw she has a package that comes with a singing room and 2 bed rooms.

However, I managed to get another mummy to arrange for KTV session at Plaza Sentosa.
Girl tip: 100 per hour, min booking 3 hours.
Need to pay a coverage charge of 100 MYR for her.
Better to communicate with the mummy one day prior going to select the girls via Whatsapp. Mostly are viet.
As such joint are not allowed to operate, we went up the backdoor via a back gate. The front door are seal with wooden boards.

2nd floor small room min spend : 304 MYR
2nd floor medium room min spend: 608 MYR
3rd floor small room min spend: 608 MYR

We ordered 24 bottles of beer - 1024 MYR. We went for HH so its 12:00-19:00, got the newly renovated (medium size) room at the 3rd floor.

Can share contact ?

siliconer
25-04-2022, 06:40 AM
Check your inbox

Zexify
26-04-2022, 01:46 PM
just wondering, y’all go KTV usually for what ah? Is it for the shake head part or mainly just looking for girls?

siliconer
26-04-2022, 05:35 PM
just wondering, y’all go KTV usually for what ah? Is it for the shake head part or mainly just looking for girls?

Everything except shaking head :D

Zexify
26-04-2022, 06:17 PM
Oh okok 🤣 cause most Malaysian go ktv is to shake head de. Make the girl high then the actions can start 🤣

subidowa
27-04-2022, 01:12 PM
Oh okok 🤣 cause most Malaysian go ktv is to shake head de. Make the girl high then the actions can start 🤣

I think for us (Singaporeans) is just to go sing-song and drink and try to make the girls get high and see got actions or not. The reason why we go over is that SG is crazily priced. In addition, I think a lot of restrictions dunno need ART to go or not, and by right hostessing is not legal. For Malaysia, I think also not legal yet but SG is really don't play play with the law they catch you very fast. For drugs, I think Nah we will never do it cause it is as good as ruining your whole life in SG.

subidowa
27-04-2022, 01:14 PM
Going in this Friday maybe stay over one night. Will be in around the afternoon to check in the hotel and park the car. Then grab around to massage/ groceries shopping/eating. At night will be drinking and maybe KTV. Any bros got any lobang can pm me thanks. Any bros wanna meet up to go look around together can pm me ur WeChat ID.

I am ok with Malaysia KTV just that 1024 ringgits for bears of 24 cans really hit me hard. If it is a bottle of liquor with mixers still ok but beers.....

Zexify
27-04-2022, 03:02 PM
I think for us (Singaporeans) is just to go sing-song and drink and try to make the girls get high and see got actions or not. The reason why we go over is that SG is crazily priced. In addition, I think a lot of restrictions dunno need ART to go or not, and by right hostessing is not legal. For Malaysia, I think also not legal yet but SG is really don't play play with the law they catch you very fast. For drugs, I think Nah we will never do it cause it is as good as ruining your whole life in SG.
I see, thanks for the clarification. KTV girls are quite smart that they won’t usually let you have your way, unless you’re super handsome and generous kind. Maybe can try engage those FL girls and bring them to KTV, also around same price but you confirm get to fuck them. Unless you’re looking for those pick up sensation then diff

subidowa
27-04-2022, 05:40 PM
I see, thanks for the clarification. KTV girls are quite smart that they won’t usually let you have your way, unless you’re super handsome and generous kind. Maybe can try engage those FL girls and bring them to KTV, also around same price but you confirm get to fuck them. Unless you’re looking for those pick up sensation then diff

I think Singaporeans also not looking to f the girls la unless they are really super pretty and sexy no where can find. Money to some bros is not a concern but the concern is they spoilt the market hahaha hahaha. We just want cheap thrills like singing KTV, drinks, and talking cock nia. Hug girls, kiss kiss and at most te neh neh. U ask them to bring back to have sex I think most of them don't want la either are scared of OC or treasure their lives cause dunno the girls are safe or not.

demon|ord
29-04-2022, 02:11 AM
Malaysia KTV happening one meh? I think not as "hiong" as SG ones in Geylang, (Machiam all can do in the room). Now a lot of those lounge type, sit with u, tok cok, either ask for ladies drink or pass them some tips for entertaining/talking to you.

Vast majority I observed are johor uncles at the lounge type, but I saw their tips like also 100rm one leh. And hor now 100rm also cannot get much. I went to eat zichar, 2 pax bill alr 66rm.
Hmm, if u wanna bring the ktv girl out, they may not necessarily wanna follow u, cause I suspect a lot of the better looking SYTs already got johor boyfriend. Those that has a "price-tag" are really the mid 40s one, I think not easy to swallow for bros below 50 leh.

Lastly I think johor quite straight forward. U wan full service, find escort; HJ find masseurs, drink beer /chit chat find ktv girls. If u want the KTV girl to sleep with u, maybe need to find escort, den dabao into the ktv room; sure can sleep with the girl.

subidowa
29-04-2022, 08:59 AM
Malaysia KTV happening one meh? I think not as "hiong" as SG ones in Geylang, (Machiam all can do in the room). Now a lot of those lounge type, sit with u, tok cok, either ask for ladies drink or pass them some tips for entertaining/talking to you.

Vast majority I observed are johor uncles at the lounge type, but I saw their tips like also 100rm one leh. And hor now 100rm also cannot get much. I went to eat zichar, 2 pax bill alr 66rm.
Hmm, if u wanna bring the ktv girl out, they may not necessarily wanna follow u, cause I suspect a lot of the better looking SYTs already got johor boyfriend. Those that has a "price-tag" are really the mid 40s one, I think not easy to swallow for bros below 50 leh.

Lastly I think johor quite straight forward. U wan full service, find escort; HJ find masseurs, drink beer /chit chat find ktv girls. If u want the KTV girl to sleep with u, maybe need to find escort, den dabao into the ktv room; sure can sleep with the girl.


Bro that is the problem with us Singaporean. We want fun but don't dare the full fun so only "cheap" thrills even thou it is not cheap and more expensive than straight forward deals. We are really uniquely Singapore money is not the main concern. The concern is fun or not but don't dare the full fun. Maybe some bros here just bored and try to see the ktv girls can take out not after building some chemistry. If can they happy if cannot they more happy cause they feel safe and challenging and then spend even more to come often to try ask her out to satisfy the ego. Strange people.

popcornchicken
29-04-2022, 11:26 AM
Sorry didn't manage to get her help us book her private party condo apartment.
I will try next time. I saw she has a package that comes with a singing room and 2 bed rooms.

However, I managed to get another mummy to arrange for KTV session at Plaza Sentosa.
Girl tip: 100 per hour, min booking 3 hours.
Need to pay a coverage charge of 100 MYR for her.
Better to communicate with the mummy one day prior going to select the girls via Whatsapp. Mostly are viet.
As such joint are not allowed to operate, we went up the backdoor via a back gate. The front door are seal with wooden boards.

2nd floor small room min spend : 304 MYR
2nd floor medium room min spend: 608 MYR
3rd floor small room min spend: 608 MYR

We ordered 24 bottles of beer - 1024 MYR. We went for HH so its 12:00-19:00, got the newly renovated (medium size) room at the 3rd floor.

Hi bro can share ctc?

demon|ord
30-04-2022, 10:45 AM
Bro that is the problem with us Singaporean. We want fun but don't dare the full fun so only "cheap" thrills even thou it is not cheap and more expensive than straight forward deals. We are really uniquely Singapore money is not the main concern. The concern is fun or not but don't dare the full fun. Maybe some bros here just bored and try to see the ktv girls can take out not after building some chemistry. If can they happy if cannot they more happy cause they feel safe and challenging and then spend even more to come often to try ask her out to satisfy the ego. Strange people.

While we assessing these girls, they are also evaluating us. SG folks is really no big deal, even if got money also no hse in JB, not staying in JB. I know got johor guys flash six pac abs, korean boy look, bank acct, car to ferry them n condo (for them to stay) to try n impress them. Singapore guy at most flash money, so get SG boyfriend also no point wad. Johor really got a lot of folks also very well to do one, so no big deal being sg guy; and the girls know that too. U will only stand a chance if u bring her into sg to earn the SG level tips, and provide a place to stay and sleep with u.

If like u say to ask them out is to "stroke the ego", I think with the numerous fail attempts seem to be bruising the ego instead. Nonetheless, not saying cannot try, but only those that tried n succeed can be crowned "hero", else it's really jiak Sai and people will laugh at the naivety.

Larrie
30-04-2022, 11:20 AM
Any recommendations of ktv to cheong? Planning go in tomorrow

MartinGG
30-04-2022, 11:56 AM
Feel lonely . Want bonk FL :D

subidowa
01-05-2022, 09:06 AM
While we assessing these girls, they are also evaluating us. SG folks is really no big deal, even if got money also no hse in JB, not staying in JB. I know got johor guys flash six pac abs, korean boy look, bank acct, car to ferry them n condo (for them to stay) to try n impress them. Singapore guy at most flash money, so get SG boyfriend also no point wad. Johor really got a lot of folks also very well to do one, so no big deal being sg guy; and the girls know that too. U will only stand a chance if u bring her into sg to earn the SG level tips, and provide a place to stay and sleep with u.

If like u say to ask them out is to "stroke the ego", I think with the numerous fail attempts seem to be bruising the ego instead. Nonetheless, not saying cannot try, but only those that tried n succeed can be crowned "hero", else it's really jiak Sai and people will laugh at the naivety.

Seems like u hate Singaporeans a lot. I am lazy to debut with you why we are better cause I just returned from a Malaysia trip again and had funs there. Don't feel like saying bad things about somewhere I enjoyed haha. You yourself know the differences la if not u won't be so pissed off lol. There are also a lot of super-rich Singaporeans but the thing is even general Singaporeans in Malaysia are also considered rich hahaha. Don't be jealous you can come sg to work too.

siliconer
01-05-2022, 10:36 AM
Hi bro can share ctc?

check your inbox

demon|ord
02-05-2022, 09:36 PM
Seems like u hate Singaporeans a lot. I am lazy to debut with you why we are better cause I just returned from a Malaysia trip again and had funs there. Don't feel like saying bad things about somewhere I enjoyed haha. You yourself know the differences la if not u won't be so pissed off lol. There are also a lot of super-rich Singaporeans but the thing is even general Singaporeans in Malaysia are also considered rich hahaha. Don't be jealous you can come sg to work too.


No eh, I not debating whether Singaporeans are better than Malaysian la! I agree Sgdollar is stronger, but just sharing my general observations la. Eh! We partied tgt before. General Singaporeans is definitely better off due to the higher GDP but if really trying to date the ladies, if u not based there, I think will be tough. I tried before, cannot one. They would prefer someone based there, compared to an offshore "boyfriend" they see once or twice a week.

That mentioned, maybe next time u can bring me around jb. =) we can try arrange. Peace out and "enjoy the party people!"

subidowa
02-05-2022, 10:21 PM
No eh, I not debating whether Singaporeans are better than Malaysian la! I agree Sgdollar is stronger, but just sharing my general observations la. Eh! We partied tgt before. General Singaporeans is definitely better off due to the higher GDP but if really trying to date the ladies, if u not based there, I think will be tough. I tried before, cannot one. They would prefer someone based there, compared to an offshore "boyfriend" they see once or twice a week.

That mentioned, maybe next time u can bring me around jb. =) we can try arrange. Peace out and "enjoy the party people!"

Did we partied before??? I forget already long time ago. To me party is really going to those Zouk/Fclub/Fenix and etc. So we went to clubbing or just drinking? WHich year is it maybe u help me recall back.

Btw don say cannot. Can one. Why don't you just get a property there? I am thinking of getting one too cause like nowadays no even need 1 million to buy like Meldrum heights. U can get 2-3 bedrooms? U show some thing there at least she feels u are sort of based there too. Btw, there are a lot of Malaysian chiobus who are everyday coming to SG to work why u didn't tackle them here to ur advantages plus with a property in Malaysia u kill both ways.

Also I cannot show you around as I am quite newbie there myself but I do drive there quite often trying to seek places to go.

Pictionary
03-05-2022, 12:40 PM
Did we partied before??? I forget already long time ago. To me party is really going to those Zouk/Fclub/Fenix and etc. So we went to clubbing or just drinking? WHich year is it maybe u help me recall back.

Btw don say cannot. Can one. Why don't you just get a property there? I am thinking of getting one too cause like nowadays no even need 1 million to buy like Meldrum heights. U can get 2-3 bedrooms? U show some thing there at least she feels u are sort of based there too. Btw, there are a lot of Malaysian chiobus who are everyday coming to SG to work why u didn't tackle them here to ur advantages plus with a property in Malaysia u kill both ways.

Also I cannot show you around as I am quite newbie there myself but I do drive there quite often trying to seek places to go.
Surprised at how u reply to complicated ppl. Dun even have the energy and wisdom to reply to such ppl.

I think it is quite tedious to recce for such places and get good lobangs. Best is to have true and good frens circle to help you, otherwise really screwed up.

Time management is really important nowadays. And using least money to achieve the most enjoyment, especially when a handful of guys here do factory jobs and do not earn much.

**As based on facebook. If not under the malaysians click, then it's difficult to understand their likes and dislikes. Even toxic ppl can post LKY too. Suggest not to associate with these ppl unless have high tolerance.

Zexify
03-05-2022, 01:37 PM
If y'all are just looking to chill and have a good time drinking and talking to girls, can actually check out this area call Eco Palladium. it's where all the youngsters gather nowadays. very happening place with alot of bars. the people there quite friendly also. saw alot of chiobus there drinking. hahaha

subidowa
03-05-2022, 03:14 PM
Surprised at how u reply to complicated ppl. Dun even have the energy and wisdom to reply to such ppl.

I think it is quite tedious to recce for such places and get good lobangs. Best is to have true and good frens circle to help you, otherwise really screwed up.

Time management is really important nowadays. And using least money to achieve the most enjoyment, especially when a handful of guys here do factory jobs and do not earn much.

**As based on facebook. If not under the malaysians click, then it's difficult to understand their likes and dislikes. Even toxic ppl can post LKY too. Suggest not to associate with these ppl unless have high tolerance.


Roger will not entertain Low ses mlaysian.

Pictionary
03-05-2022, 06:01 PM
Roger will not entertain Low ses mlaysian.
Maintenance is one of the most tedious. I think you would agree with me along this line.

To get out of maintenance, need committed learning. It's morally incorrect to tap your wealth of knowledge and experience in your area. And i dun think you will like it either. I dun think i can explore the ktv and the MY network which u are most familiar with.

Anyway, it's too much writing and reading for me. Time to do my things.

demon|ord
05-05-2022, 02:29 AM
Did we partied before??? I forget already long time ago. To me party is really going to those Zouk/Fclub/Fenix and etc. So we went to clubbing or just drinking? WHich year is it maybe u help me recall back.

Btw don say cannot. Can one. Why don't you just get a property there? I am thinking of getting one too cause like nowadays no even need 1 million to buy like Meldrum heights. U can get 2-3 bedrooms? U show some thing there at least she feels u are sort of based there too. Btw, there are a lot of Malaysian chiobus who are everyday coming to SG to work why u didn't tackle them here to ur advantages plus with a property in Malaysia u kill both ways.

Also I cannot show you around as I am quite newbie there myself but I do drive there quite often trying to seek places to go.

Yes partied before. Fetched u in my car somemore u forgot! We went KYO.
I pretty much play around Permas Jaya area, u can try the pubs arnd there. Local Chinese chicks, pretty SYTs, but chit chatting is probably all there is. If u want ktv room type PJ also have, but they go by the hour and I'm not sure if they still operate since reopening of borders. Best fun I had was the Siam diu, but instead of the Thai dancers, get the local xmms to entertain u, more interactive compared to the dancers. Than again, that was pre covid.

subidowa
05-05-2022, 12:38 PM
Yes partied before. Fetched u in my car somemore u forgot! We went KYO.
I pretty much play around Permas Jaya area, u can try the pubs arnd there. Local Chinese chicks, pretty SYTs, but chit chatting is probably all there is. If u want ktv room type PJ also have, but they go by the hour and I'm not sure if they still operate since reopening of borders. Best fun I had was the Siam diu, but instead of the Thai dancers, get the local xmms to entertain u, more interactive compared to the dancers. Than again, that was pre covid.

Oh, I remember Liao. U are the only driving us in MXXXX car. Actually that day we also went to Zon and the to Tokio. Zon is not much happening at that time and then Tokio is also like pretty much dull. Till now also only know these two places to go. Where is PJ??? in KL??? I don't like and don't believe in siam diu cause they will always pester you to hang flowers which I think is nonsense. Haven't received anything must offer already and like in "appreciation" of their bad singing or dancing? So till now, I am still left with the two places you have shown me. Just that now I drive in park at the hotel but will take grab anywhere cause don't wanna drink drive.