How to avoid being "friends" with the girl u r interested in?

[pete_the_fish]

Hi everyone,

I got to know a girl when I attended a conference about 2 months ago. Went out with her once then I wasn't so interested already but a week later she text me, perhaps she thougth I have lost interest or something. From then on, I thougth I would ask her out again and see how things go.

We went out a few times to movies and drinks, kinda like a casual date....hmm..dont even know if it's considered a date cos I just ask her out casually. Most of the time she will not turn me down if i ask her out. If she is not available, she would offer me an alternative date when she is free.

On our last date, i found out her actual age (actually I roughly know how old she is already) and was quite shock to know that I am so much older than her (about 14years, she is in her early 20s). I am not sure if she knows how old I am. Wonder how she will react if she knows I am so much older. :eek:

Anyway, she is quite a mature girl and that's why I dont feel like I am going out with a young girl. it seems that she always have something to talk about which makes the dates quite enjoyable.

After a few dates, I have become more and more interested in her. However, she never give me any clear signals or tried to flirt with me like my other girlfirends who always made the first move.

If I dont do something, i am afraid that we will become friends permanently and it will be very hard to reverse that.

So on our recent date, before going to the movie, we had a drink in a bar. Bring her there so she would have some alcoholic drink to shed her inhibition...and mine...hehe....She had a cocktail and her face was kind of red from the alcohol. But still, she seem quite sober. I guess I was quite sober too and didnt try to make any move. we can't get too drunk as well since we have a movie to catch.

Since she is not giving me any signals I am not really sure she is interested . But since she is going out with me, I can only assume that she may be somehow interested.

What should I do to let her know that I am interested in her (other than telling her verbally)? :confused:

[Unionbeta]

Telling is the best way............

Raping her is the worst way..........

[Bangster]

Buy her stockings and a digital camera.

Wear a smirk across your face when giving her the gift.

Better still, wear a home-made SBF T-shirt with the words, "I'm Pete the Fish".

Keep giggling.

Just joking lah.

Aiyah...you 35+, she 20+, and you still don't dare to biao bai to a girl meh?
Seriously, get her a present lor. A nice mug that says "Been Missing You" or something...since you don't dare to verbally say out.

And you can still stuff the stockings inside that mug.

[PeteTsang69]

What should I do to let her know that I am interested in her (other than telling her verbally)? :confused:

huh??? any bros master of telepathy or thought transfer from mind to mind can help out :D

no offence bro but if u want an FB, here may be a good place for bros to help

but if you want to know how to initiate a GF relationship, flowerpod may be the place :)

[Bangster]

Ya, Flowerpod lovvvvves this type of question. The bitches there sure would love to help you.

Otherwise, try the Indian fortune teller on the street, those with the 2 cutie birds in a cage trained to pick cards.

[MistressVamp]

from time to time...text her saying u miss her or something lar...if u dun dare to tell her in person.

[Frankiestine]

look dude half the battle is already won, if she don't like you i don't think she would even think about going out with you...the other half is to actually find out exactly how deep that feeling she has for you and the only way to find out is for you to express yourselves first..

[Snuber]

Is she the PRC babe that you had mentioned? :D

On another hand, she could just be like you. Waiting for the other party to make the first move. In the end, the r/s may just cold out if nobody dares to make the first move.

Anyway, now what age liao??? No need to be shy lah. Life is so short. Go do something daring, else you will look back in regret when old.

Sometimes, dun have to be verbal. Just show her some actions which is quite obvious can liao. If things dun work out, at least prep a good joke b4 hand and both can laugh at it, though I hope u dun have to use it.

Who knows, you may kena something that you never expect.. :D

[Flavoured]

Bro pete,

to avoid being friends with that girl, you have to stop being her friend. rethroical?

have to start expressing you interest in her. please dont go throw a bomb at her by saying you love her and you can live without her, itdoesnt work that way.

start off with body language, you said you guys drink together, maybe after the drinks, while leaving the pub, places your hands oher shoulders or better yet, her waist. her reaction should give you a good idea on your chances.

women love to do stupid and crazy things. if they come up with a crazy idea, do it. once me and my date sneaked into my old secondary school in the middleof the night. the whole climbing over the fence, sneaking pass the guard room got her adrendalin (cant spell it) going and endophins generate attraction, thus 1 + 1 = 2 and the school got sticky.

and lastly, i always strongly advise agiasnt the whole confesson thing. it's a chinese culture (or japanese) to confess to a girl and have her reciprocate, dont do it, it dumb and human beings were programmed o avoid conflict when confused, thus half the time you will get rejected even though you actually might have a chance.

my susgestion is go for the direct approach, a kiss. get in the mood (drinks, talking, sad romantic movie where half the cas dies, whatever floats her boat)
then look for a chance to be more intimate with her. dont ask me when is the correct timing, god gave you a brain, use it.

[Steadyman1]

TS pardon me, for your age and gf experience, the way you write sound you are new in handling this.. :confused:

Maybe this is your first serious encounter. At this age, go straight to the point. BGR...so be it, casual friend... also can. No misunderstanding and you still can go out together.

Any problem?? No problem... :p

Still hesitating.. Just ask yourself those question and you have your own answer. :D

[Reaper]

Send her 1 doz roses once a day for 5 days with a card that says : From your secret admirer

On the 6th day, arrange a date, wear a t-shirt that says "I am your Secret Admirer

IF you want a FB, you can do the same thing, just change the card to say "from your wannabe FB."

Actually, just be direct, take the initiative. Be firm but not aggressive. As Flavoured mentioned. Do something crazy or the spur of the moment. the adreanalin and excitment would help to wear down her inhibitions.

[Stealthman]

While having a drink, try asking her ever have boyfriend and there you goes.
Hinting her whether she is ready to have one and blar blar blar.
You should have your answer then.

Else you might ask whether she mind your age to be a close friend.
Or what is her impression of you and there you could go on to ask.

Hope that help.

[qw2op]

... On our last date, i found out her actual age (actually I roughly know how old she is already) and was quite shock to know that I am so much older than her (about 14years, she is in her early 20s). I am not sure if she knows how old I am. Wonder how she will react if she knows I am so much older. ...
do u hv a boyish face? ... if u dun hv, den she shld noe ...

dun b surprised dat sum women look 4 older men ...


... What should I do to let her know that I am interested in her (other than telling her verbally)? ...
bring her wok past hotel81 ... look in2 ze hotel as u wok past ze main entrance n let her c u looking inside ... dis may arouse her curiosity n she wil oso look inside ... den, whisper in her ear ...

wah! ... weather veli ze hot 2day ... r u feeling hot 2? ...

as she mulls over ur words ... tel her ... u r perspiring, u nid a gd shower ...




wel ... if she no more sms u after dat ... tel urself, it's ok ... @ least, u hv achieved ur objective as stated in ur title: 'How to avoid being "friends" with the girl u r interested in?' ... she no more fren u liao ...

:D

[old_yet_horny]

look dude half the battle is already won, if she don't like you i don't think she would even think about going out with you...the other half is to actually find out exactly how deep that feeling she has for you and the only way to find out is for you to express yourselves first..

Monster Bro.. True but not totally true... FYI, nowadays gals are not what they are like donkey years ago.. They can go out with you for movies, drinks and dinners but it doesn't means that they would want to be hitched with you...More or less they would like to "shop" around for a good catch...:(

Its cruel but its true..


To TS...

Just "wack" that burger la... Tell her you got feel and ask how about her feeling towards you??

If she gives you a half plus 6 answer.. You better be on your heels... Cos there's always a catch behind..

If she say.. yes.. "I got feeling also.." Mai TU liao!!! Go to th nearest 7/11.. grab a pack of Featherlite and check into any budget hotel for "downpayment"...(Just kidding):D

Ask her if its ok that u 2 guys can proceed further.. If she say "sorry" or "not now" etc etc.. Move on liao...

[ekemono]

but a week later she text me,

Wah.., compare my case to yours, i think you are still not bad. My target gal? I am the only one to always intiate a sms, phone call.
I have moved on since....

good luck on your pursue:)

[pete_the_fish]

So many interesting replies. Thanks. Some might come in useful. :D

I have been in this situation before and most of the time is I give up. The rest of the time, it's the girl who makes the first move, so it gives me the confidence to flirt with them.

It;s not that I am lacking confidence with this girl. Maybe it's her...or maybe there is not enough chemistry. I kinda felt restrained when I am with her. Sometimes I want to touch her but something is holding me back.

I try to create opportunities to touch her, like crossing the road. In the cinema, I wanna ask her if she is cold, so that i can put my arms around her, but I dont know why I didnt ask her. However when she walked down the stairs in the dark cinema, I held her arm (rather than her hand) to steady her.

When we were in the MRT, I supported her back with my hands when the MRT jerked. We didnt feel akward. When she hand me the money for the taxi fare, I gave it back to her, with my hand grapsing hers. She did not resist and feel quite shiok touching her smooth hands. :D

Think I will have to be more creative when I meet her again. :)

[colins]

bro pete, actually from your older thread, I've got this impression that you're ready to give her up or take her as second choice. There were so many advice from there, all for you, then you said you're really playing it cool cos 'you've got choices'.
Why re-visit this again? Wouldn't bros here be repeating themselves, again for you? Very funny right, since until now you still havent got guts to admit that you like her, and keep giving us hints that she likes you?

If you like her, just tell her lo. What's the big deal about losing face? Since kindergarten, my dad has been telling me, if you like a girl, just tell her. You aren't casanova nor a desperado, you're just a normal man who can be attracted to a normal lady, so what's wrong in it? Proper girls probably won't tell you directly until you give the straightforward message that you like them, after that they will relax and tell you their own feelings. Before this happens, its all courtship with uncertainty and an exessive courtesy. But you have to move on la, your posts are all about your own inner struggles and battles. If you stay in this stage for long, either she'll think that you're a gutless fool who dun even have the courage to say what you feel (that you like her), or you're just another guy who may one day, introduce a potential boyfriend to her.

Think about it. To avoid being 'friends' is to cut the act and say how you feel.

[pete_the_fish]

bro pete, actually from your older thread, I've got this impression that you're ready to give her up or take her as second choice. There were so many advice from there, all for you, then you said you're really playing it cool cos 'you've got choices'.
Why re-visit this again? Wouldn't bros here be repeating themselves, again for you? Very funny right, since until now you still havent got guts to admit that you like her, and keep giving us hints that she likes you?
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After the first date, I thought she is not that hot and so I didnt bother to contact her again and kinda like forgotten about her. But a week later she text me "stuff" and I thougth she might be interested in me.

Since I m quite bored and there is no harm having another girl friend, I decided to ask her out during my spare time. after a few dates, I find myself liking her more and more and it's nice to go out with her.

I know I can just tell her directly I like her, but it's just not my style. :)

[colins]

Since I m quite bored and there is no harm having another girl friend, I decided to ask her out during my spare time. after a few dates, I find myself liking her more and more and it's nice to go out with her.

I know I can just tell her directly I like her, but it's just not my style. :)

Then I guess this would be a friendship after all.

[mr.zouk]

Reading through all previous posts I somehow agree that you most probably have to either start things going forward or accept keeping it the casual way it is right now. Just face it, most of the times girls keep it the boys task to start things, even when they are interested.

What I don't agree with is that just plainly telling her your feelings will help the situation. It's just like throwing yourself in front of her, waiting for her to react. You don't want to put yourself into that passive position, and girls usually don't get that interested in guys that offer themselves in that way. You rather should further wake her interests and seduce her feelings. Of course you have to let her know your feelings, but pls don't tell her. Not that fast. Let her know that you care for her by getting physical. That doesn't mean you should rape or forcedly kiss her, but get in touch with her. Grab her hand while catching the last few seconds of green light when crossing a street and don't let it go instantly afterwards. Just keep it while going on. But don't hang on her, let it go after a while because you want to see a shop window or whatever. Later on you just can grab it again when you feel like it. Show her that you are comfortable with yourself and up to the task that you get in touch with her the moment you feel like it. Girls don't realize it in their minds, but they unknowingly dig that kind of male self consciousness. Anyway, enter her personal space occasionally, whisper stuff into her ear, but pull back after that. Slightly look at her in sexual ways from time to time, but get back on distance then.

Acting like that you're sending a lot of signals to her without just poorly offering yourself, and you should be easily able to tell if she likes it or not. If you sense she likes it, go on doing it. But don't try to seduce her with expensive stuff, buying dinner and all that things. You want to know if she likes you, not your purse, right?

Btw., I also agree that battle is already halfway won if she meets with you regularly. At least you didn't bore her so far then, and that is a solid base to get things forward. Just be a man and do it!

[pete_the_fish]

Then I guess this would be a friendship after all.

Telling a girl directly that you like her is a no no. From my first relationship till now, I have never tell the girl I like her before we become bf/gf.

Here is something I got from the internet.

How to tell her you like her?

Hi Dave,

II have recently started to like this girl a lot. We hang out almost everyday, and everybody that is around us say that we act like we are going out. We flirt all of the time, but I don't want to be the one that admits that i like her first. I have also become really good friends with one of her friends and she told her friend that she likes me and everything, but she hasn't really had too much experience in dating.

She is one of the nicest girls in the world and she is very pretty so I don't really understand why. I really want to tell her that i like her, but i have read your book and you always seem to push getting the girl to admit it to you first. I think she may be too shy to do this though. Would it be ok to admit it to her first in this situation? I know you probably think hanging out with her everyday seems needy, but she is the one that calls me everyday and it is very hard to turn her down. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

David D. >>>MY COMMENTS:

Nice.

Well, today is your lucky day... for today I'm going to give you advice that will probably be PRICELESS to you. First let me start with some ranting, raving, and confusing double-talk.

Then we'll get to the good stuff.

Let's begin with me verbally abusing you for not paying attention to what I say, then drift into a little bit of talking about why your situation is an exception to a general rule or two...


VERBAL ABUSE

It's annoying when I go to all the trouble to explain a concept in detail... and try 100 ways to say it in my newsletters, eBook, etc. and then someone JUST DOESN'T GET IT.

In your email you say:

"I really want to tell her that I like her, but I have read your book and you always seem to push getting the
girl to admit it to you first."

Now, what I'm about to say might sound a little bit "trivial" to you. You might say "semantics" like the
smart people do. But pay attention. CLOSE attention.

I do not recommend that you get a woman to admit that she likes you FIRST. Getting a woman to admit that she likes you "first" naturally implies that you "admit it" BACK.

And I DO NOT say "admit it back" OR "admit it later" OR anything else of the sort.

Why is this so important?

Simple, really.

I personally believe that TELLING a woman that you "like her" is one of the WORST things you can do. If you want a woman to know that you like her, the best way is to have her FIGURE IT OUT by the fact that you guys are getting PHYSICALLY INVOLVED.

Let me confuse the issue further...

"Telling her" that you like her and "feeling like you really want to tell her" are two completely different issues, and they're BOTH bad... but for different reasons.

TELLING her is bad because it takes the MAGIC, the SUSPENSE, the MYSTERY, and the SEXUAL TENSION out of the situation.

It pops the balloon. It's kills the chemistry.

FEELING like you want to tell her and then asking about HOW to tell her is bad because it shows that you're not GETTING IT.

ANOTHER TANGENT

All right, so let's go off on tangent number 2….

You mentioned in your email that this girl you're seeing is inexperienced in the dating world. If she's REALLY inexperienced, then you might be in big trouble. See, she might be falling IN LOVE with you. All of this seeing her every day business but not taking things to the next level (and feeling like you want to tell her how you feel really really really badly) might be setting her up emotionally for a late-night drive to Vegas and marriage vows at the Drive Thru with Elvis.

If a woman is inexperienced, then it's very important that you NOT screw this up. If you do, it might be bad. Another thought: When you're with an inexperienced woman, it's sometimes a good idea to "dial down" the ball-busting and the Cocky&Funny a little bit. Instead of having it turned up to a 9.5, dial it back to a 5.7923 setting. That will probably work better for you and her.

WHAT TO DO

So let's talk a bit about ATTRACTION. Attraction is a bizarre process. It happens for reasons that are difficult to explain to a person who has a "bad model" of how it works. But let's just say that if it DOES happen, you want to AMPLIFY it. You don't want to WEAKEN it.

One of the problems with "telling her how you feel" is that it instantly changes the dynamics of the situation.

When you say "I like you", in her head the woman hears:
"He is admitting to me that he likes me, which gives me all the power, which, for some strange reason, makes me not like him as much anymore."

I realize that this sounds crazy, and doesn't make a whole lot of "logical sense", but it's what usually happens.

If you want to "tell" a woman that you "like her", the best way to do it is to ADVANCE PHYSICALLY. In other words, TAKE THINGS TO THE NEXT LEVEL. DO something, don't SAY something. Words are to be used when ACTIONS don't work better. And this isn't one of those cases.

Remember "The Kiss Test" I talk about on my website? Use it.

Remember the exact sequence that I describe in the bonus booklet that you got with Double Your Dating called "Sex Secrets"? Use it.

But DO NOT "tell her how you feel".

Unless, of course, you want to drive to Vegas. Finally, let me give you some advice about this situation of "she calls me everyday to hang out and I can't turn her down".

TURN HER DOWN.

I know, I know... Powerful.

If you're in love with this girl and want to marry her, have kids with her, drive your cute brats to soccer practice in your green minivan, and wear lots of Dockers clothing, then forget what I'm telling you. Who knows, you might have found one of those rare, wonderful women that so many of us guys are looking for.

But if you're just at the stage where it's time to take things to the next level, then do it with your ACTION, not with your WORDS.

[pete_the_fish]

Met her the other day in the MRT and we were standing quite close. And I sort of saw her checking me out :D.

Anyway, after our date last week, I didnt sms her. But kept thinking about her. She also seldom take the initiative to sms me also. So I was thinking I would stop smsing her and see if she would take the initiative.

I dont have the patience anymore so decided to sms her about a week later after our last date.

Her reply was:" was thinking how come no msg from u ? then I received ur sms !" :eek:

Is she trying to flirt with me? telling me she's been thinking of me? :p

hmmm....funny thing is, she is trying to flirt with me when we sms, but not when we are actually together.....guess i have to make the first move....:rolleyes:

[boy_]

hey ts, sorry, dun mind i hijack ur thread, i dun wana waste opening a new thread. anyway,

TS, i gt e same problem except that its in reverse. i like a girl who is 10yr plus older den me. she like on and off leh. sometimes, she is so sweet kind and caring. den sometimes, msg her, she dun even bother, but i really like her.

cuz she gt a career and everything, wan to go out with her abit hard leh. high maintanence. but on the few dates where we went out, she is very nice and all e sgnals she giv, i think we r quite ok.. but on e other hand, she is always giving me e cold shoulder.

any advice frm bros here?

PS: i noe tis is e wrong place for tis kinda things, but since TS started e topic. hope u guys dun mind, thanks.

[old_yet_horny]

hey ts, sorry, dun mind i hijack ur thread, i dun wana waste opening a new thread. anyway,

TS, i gt e same problem except that its in reverse. i like a girl who is 10yr plus older den me. she like on and off leh. sometimes, she is so sweet kind and caring. den sometimes, msg her, she dun even bother, but i really like her.

cuz she gt a career and everything, wan to go out with her abit hard leh. high maintanence. but on the few dates where we went out, she is very nice and all e sgnals she giv, i think we r quite ok.. but on e other hand, she is always giving me e cold shoulder.

any advice frm bros here?

PS: i noe tis is e wrong place for tis kinda things, but since TS started e topic. hope u guys dun mind, thanks.

Look... Most likely or very high chance that she already has another man out there... The way she treat you is like you're a stand in or temporary replacement for that guy...

Bed her and leave her... Dun induldge in this fruitless relationship... OMG 10 years?? Too far a gap..:rolleyes:

[slyer]

i think guy should take the initiative to confess ur love to the girl u like. don't wait til someone take the first move and u will regret..

i also experienced same situation as ts. i went out very often with this female friend of mine but then we treat each other as buddies cos we simply knew there's no chemistry between us.. :D

[colins]

Telling a girl directly that you like her is a no no. From my first relationship till now, I have never tell the girl I like her before we become bf/gf.

Here is something I got from the internet.

How to tell her you like her?

...

But if you're just at the stage where it's time to take things to the next level, then do it with your ACTION, not with your WORDS.[/COLOR]

Now I'm really sure that it will be a friendship.

[Mafia Boss]

i think guy should take the initiative to confess ur love to the girl u like. don't wait til someone take the first move and u will regret..

i also experienced same situation as ts. i went out very often with this female friend of mine but then we treat each other as buddies cos we simply knew there's no chemistry between us.. :D

Strongly agreed! Nothing venture nothing gain. Worst case is when the other guy gets the girl and the girl comes to you for BF advice! Really bang.

[Cyberspace Nerd]

Now I'm really sure that it will be a friendship.

You are absolutely right if he had told the girl verbally that he likes her.

There are many ways to tell a girl you like her...but telling her verbally should be the last resort.

TELLING her is bad because it takes the MAGIC, the SUSPENSE, the MYSTERY, and the SEXUAL TENSION out of the situation.

It pops the balloon. It's kills the chemistry.

I have had girlfriends who never tell me they like me until we are together. Sometimes it's quite obvious from the signals and the chemistry when I go out with a girl.

Sometimes the guys have to make the first move because the girl is inexperience or think it's inappropriate because the guy might think she is "improper".

[Mafia Boss]

You are absolutely right if he had told the girl verbally that he likes her.

There are many ways to tell a girl you like her...but telling her verbally should be the last resort.

But bro sometimes got to force the issue otherwise the girl will take things for granted.

[airforcegurl]

action does speak louder than words but if the girl is a player, you will never get anyway. she may take advantage of you too. its best to know her well before you get serious :)

[big_bear]

if you try to hold her waist, she push you away or you try to kiss her in cinema, end up kenna slap how? Wat if you thought you read the signs she giving is correct, but actually, is not wat the girl is thinking at all? Then your friendship will be affected rite?

[Supermanx1]

if you try to hold her waist, she push you away or you try to kiss her in cinema, end up kenna slap how? Wat if you thought you read the signs she giving is correct, but actually, is not wat the girl is thinking at all? Then your friendship will be affected rite?


anyone mention drinks to get her into the mood?

[Lanchio1]

If she starts to be shy with you, it means that she likes you more than as friends.

But be careful with Players. There are lots of pretty girls out there who string men along, so as to have themselves a good time (lunch, dinner$, clubbing$) at your expen$e. They may let you touch a bit, maybe hold hands a bit, just to keep the illu$ion going. These good time$ girl$ will have more than one guy at their beck & call & are smart enough not to say "Lets be friend$" until it's too late (when you've invested too much time & $$$)

These Player$ are nothing more than in$ecure girl$, who are pretty & smart but somehow, are insecure about themselve$.

[ddog]

I don't really bother bout what goes on but on how to avoid being friends, you can try by telling a lot of jokes loosen her up, then flirt with her, touch her hair,complement her lips, breath (sweet, cute, feminine, etc), eyes, ask her about her makeups (most gals will talk in length about it), be a gentleman all the way, hold her hand, open doors, send her home, sms her goodnight, thanks for the beautiful evening that she's the prettiest gal you've seen the entire night (maybe a lie but gals luv it), etc. If she still doesn't show interest, then she's not yours.

[Darkstorm]

If she starts to be shy with you, it means that she likes you more than as friends.

But be careful with Players. There are lots of pretty girls out there who string men along, so as to have themselves a good time (lunch, dinner$, clubbing$) at your expen$e. They may let you touch a bit, maybe hold hands a bit, just to keep the illu$ion going. These good time$ girl$ will have more than one guy at their beck & call & are smart enough not to say "Lets be friend$" until it's too late (when you've invested too much time & $$$)

These Player$ are nothing more than in$ecure girl$, who are pretty & smart but somehow, are insecure about themselve$.

So if one meets this kind of girl --- a player --- then how? Don't associate with her or just treat her like a friend?

[lacoruna69]

So if one meets this kind of girl --- a player --- then how? Don't associate with her or just treat her like a friend?

Just treat her as you treat your normal guy friends lor. It's very clear she just won't let you ON her.........why waste time?
But do keep in touch as one day she might feel down kenna dumped and maybe you will get lucky.:D

[scoobyhoo]

as you are always treating this girl like a normal friend without any intention of a more intimate relationship, i think you can forget about to further the relationship as you have anchored yourself to be a "girl-friend" to her. don't react on the "hints" as this may land you a serious criminal charge - rape. if you are interested in having sex with her, tell her "striaght". you will be amazed how effective the result is - positive or negative all at once, without wasting further "investments" on meals, concerts, gifts, etc.

[gilagila100]

Just treat her as you treat your normal guy friends lor. It's very clear she just won't let you ON her.........why waste time?
But do keep in touch as one day she might feel down kenna dumped and maybe you will get lucky.:D

Even then you might want to consider twice first ...

This kind of woman best avoid far far like infectious disease ...

[Lanchio1]

Even then you might want to consider twice first ...

This kind of woman best avoid far far like infectious disease ...

Agree. These kind of women only know how to get their way with men. They need you to $ati$fy their needs but pined for the unavailable dream guy (that young, rich man's son).

[pete_the_fish]

anyone mention drinks to get her into the mood?

i will try that next :D

Her face was kinda of red after one drink last time I ordered a drink for her. :p

Think a few more will do the trick.

[Optimus_Prime]

i will try that next :D

Her face was kinda of red after one drink last time I ordered a drink for her. :p

Think a few more will do the trick.

bro just make the 1st move.

touch her hand, or hold her waist watever. see her reactions and move on from there mah.

[Vectra]

bro just make the 1st move.

touch her hand, or hold her waist watever. see her reactions and move on from there mah.

Then what next? :D

[infinitiumus]

if you try to hold her waist, she push you away or you try to kiss her in cinema, end up kenna slap how? Wat if you thought you read the signs she giving is correct, but actually, is not wat the girl is thinking at all? Then your friendship will be affected rite?

When I was younger I used to think of such questions.. being afraid of being rejected or even kena slap.

But nowadays I don't care already. Kena slap kena slap lah.. but seriously so far I only kena slap once before.. mostly if they got no interest in your they will resist you but won't slap lah.. even slap so what..

Later apologize.. still can be friends what.

But think of the lost opportunity of not trying..

[infinitiumus]

One of the best way is to find a quiet place. And offer to massage her. If she say yes, I can tell 99% OK liao.

If she say no.. then try harder..

[Jurchen Warrior]

One of the best way is to find a quiet place. And offer to massage her. If she say yes, I can tell 99% OK liao.

If she say no.. then try harder..

Don't forget to offer her 'special' on the house after the massage and watch her reaction! :D

[infinitiumus]

Another method that I used in my younger days is to invite the girl for swimming.

If she agrees to go with you, then mostly she has a good impression of you.

Why swimming?

a) It is not expensive but it would be nice if you have access to condo or to some clubs as it is more private

b) It is much better than movie and you can spend 2 hours getting to really know her better instead of watching the screen

c) You get to see her figure

d) And dipping in the water really is really relaxing.. easily to break down the barrier

e) possible to accidentally touch her here and there

f) You may offer to apply lotion on her or even massage her (really ho sei liao)

after the swimming, it should be to dinner and maybe something more...

[xyz1001]

Another method that I used in my younger days is to invite the girl for swimming.

If she agrees to go with you, then mostly she has a good impression of you.

Why swimming?

a) It is not expensive but it would be nice if you have access to condo or to some clubs as it is more private

b) It is much better than movie and you can spend 2 hours getting to really know her better instead of watching the screen

c) You get to see her figure

d) And dipping in the water really is really relaxing.. easily to break down the barrier

e) possible to accidentally touch her here and there

f) You may offer to apply lotion on her or even massage her (really ho sei liao)

after the swimming, it should be to dinner and maybe something more...

I LOVE ur idea!!!! Think i can cancel tonight movie already. hehe :D

[pete_the_fish]

bro just make the 1st move.

touch her hand, or hold her waist watever. see her reactions and move on from there mah.

I have made some moves, but maybe not obvious enough.
We have kept in touch by texting...but mostly is i text her...guess i not charming enough for her to initiate texting me.....haizzz

however, i am sensing some chance as she has been telling me I am cute when we exchange sms. :p Ask her if she will treat me drinks as it's my birthday...and she said ANYTIME!!

I will try for first base if we get to go out for drinks next week. :D

[xyz1001]

I have made some moves, but maybe not obvious enough.
We have kept in touch by texting...but mostly is i text her...guess i not charming enough for her to initiate texting me.....haizzz

however, i am sensing some chance as she has been telling me I am cute when we exchange sms. :p Ask her if she will treat me drinks as it's my birthday...and she said ANYTIME!!

I will try for first base if we get to go out for drinks next week. :D

Bro, think u got some chance, at least she willing to go out. Btw, most gals are sensitive, she probably knows what u up too already, don't think your "not obvious enough" moves can go un-noticed. :D

[drahcir]

Bro, very interesting topic. & seem like she like you. Invest a bit on good dinning place might work, say liggy $$$$

[toilet$50]

anyone mention drinks to get her into the mood?

Bro,do not give her any(drinks).This is my ADVICE![LEFT]
Because my friend(about 8years ago)kn jail 6 years + 5 stroke[LEFT]
He age 32..Girls 21++:cool:

[marlborotan]

One of the best way is to find a quiet place. And offer to massage her. If she say yes, I can tell 99% OK liao.

If she say no.. then try harder..

yeah yeah. I tried this method b4. Quite efficient loh.